Forum logs for 06 Mar 2018

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: and in other materia obscura, http://law.di.unimi.it/software.php#buging [01:58]
diana_coman: ave1, I tried compiling eucrypt & components using your runtime: need support for Interfaces.C (used by keccak/oaep) and Ada.Unchecked_Conversion (used by Serpent) [06:27]
diana_coman: fwiw the footprint of eucrypt with default runtime is 215K (separate components: mpi 109K bit_keccak 17K keccak 42K rsa 19K serpent 20K - 31K (depending on level of optimisation chosen) [06:29]
diana_coman: I'm using gprbuild 2016 with gcc 4.9.4, both from adacore [06:30]
diana_coman: !!v 5741268585B87EBBBEA12E619EB421FC629C369A76F153F5CCB68EFE3348204E [06:41]
deedbot: diana_coman rated ave1 2 << useful and clearly reported work on ada & ada+c writes at ave1.org [06:41]
diana_coman: trinque, what do I need to do to add ave1's www to deedbot's list? http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1784953 I really would have liked to have seen http://ave1.org/2018/sending-arrays-of-octets-between-c-and-ada/ when it was published, last week or did I miss it in the logs somehow? [06:52]
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 13:25 diana_coman: also: is ave1's blog in the rss list? I find it quite useful [06:52]
ave1: diana_coman, I have a version that has both files, but not published yet. It is not hard to make, copy from the runtime dir the files: i-c.ads, i-c.adb (for Interfaces.C) and a-unccon.ads. Then edit i-c.ads and i-c.adb [06:54]
ave1: The function versions of To_Ada and To_C need to be removed + exceptions raised [06:54]
ave1: Then, smg_serpent self_test procedure needs to be function and raised removed [06:55]
ave1: Well, maybe not so easy, I will publish patch (but probably next week) [06:59]
ave1: After that, as it turns out, ada still produces some code which is not supported by the zfp lib. I fixed some of this, but this is very much a build - add some code - retry cycle and that will take some time. [07:50]
ave1: For example the zfp lib is not really written (at this moment) for a C main program, so 'adafinal' is missing. [07:51]
diana_coman: ave1, take your time on it just publish when it's ready and I'll give it another go [08:24]
diana_coman: I am not using To_Ada or To_C so they can be removed, not an issue [08:24]
diana_coman: as to the serpent_self_test procedure - it can in principle even go away entirely as there is an equivalent test in the tests dir where tests should be anyway the self_test is left mainly because it was in the original, but not crucial in any case [08:26]
mircea_popescu: in other sad news, holy shit the http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-january-2018-statement/ was utterly broken (and nobody said anything!!!) hence the delay with this month's report. will be publishing a restated version of the jan one too. [09:40]
trinque: diana_coman: you ask. happy to add it. sec [09:43]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/public-bailout-of-bezo-bungle-continues-in-indiana/ << Qntra - Public Bailout Of Bezo Bungle Continues In Indiana [09:54]
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl/ << ave1 - Building GNAT on MUSL [10:03]
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-a-signature/ << ave1 - Building GNAT on MUSL, now with a signature [10:03]
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/on-ffa-chapter-1/ << ave1 - On FFA Chapter 1 [10:03]
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/gnat-and-pragma-inline_always-a-report/ << ave1 - GNAT and Pragma Inline_Always: A report [10:03]
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/mp-wp-a-genesis/ << ave1 - MP-WP, a genesis [10:03]
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/on-ffa-chapter-2/ << ave1 - On FFA Chapter 2 [10:03]
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/from-the-proverbial-peanut-gallery/ << ave1 - From the proverbial Peanut Gallery [10:03]
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/gnat-and-zero-foot-print-runtimes/ << ave1 - GNAT and Zero Foot Print Runtimes [10:04]
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/sending-arrays-of-octets-between-c-and-ada/ << ave1 - Sending arrays of octets between C and Ada [10:04]
mircea_popescu: i didn't know non-romanian speakers even knew the word "octet" [10:04]
mircea_popescu: where'you from ave1 ?! [10:04]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-february-2018-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), February 2018 Statement [10:15]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : the people who debuted in porn this year are... 70% male. [10:39]
mircea_popescu: i expect porn is very much going the way of fashion, or academia : first, faggots get a hold of it, then... nobody would touch it with a ten foot pole. [10:40]
diana_coman: thanks trinque [11:30]
trinque: yw [11:34]
* asciilifeform has at least a mild hint of bureaucracy flavour associated in head with 'octet' -- the word is mandatory in rfc txt's [11:55]
mircea_popescu: leftover from a day when http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760685 was a lot clearer. [12:32]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 15:44 mircea_popescu: but not on "byte" meaning anything other than what it does, which is to say... "how much the machine takes in at a time" [12:32]
mircea_popescu: as opposed to word (how much is needed to compose a complete address) and so on. [12:33]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/pantsuit-nashville-mayor-resigns-while-admitting-to-theft/ << Qntra - Pantsuit Nashville Mayor Resigns While Admitting To Theft [13:47]
mircea_popescu: not, notably, CORRUPTION [14:02]
BingoBoingo: Well, notably [14:04]
BingoBoingo: When dem hollywood boys do it "Exploitation!" when pantsuit does it "wage theft" [14:09]
BingoBoingo: Why no outrage for the poor suffering Sergeant who had to convincingly pretend enthusiasm when banging it out with a bag old enough that she had a mid-20's adult son die from terminal reddit/opiods last year. [14:12]
mircea_popescu: you know ? [14:22]
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure that's actually in the stankred pantsuit texts: Power differential sex abuse. [14:24]
mircea_popescu: yes but http://trilema.com/2018/memoranda-of-congress/#selection-157.595-159.101 [14:31]
mircea_popescu: this is the limit where it must stop! [14:31]
mircea_popescu: [Xi][Xii][Xiii] [Xiv][Xv] [Xvi][Xvii][Xviii][Xix][Xx][Xxi][Xxii][Xxiii][Xxiv][Xxv] [Xxvi][Xxvii][Xxviii][Xxix][Xxx][Xxxi][Xxxii] [14:48]
mircea_popescu: nice phf. [14:48]
mircea_popescu: 2017-02-04 23:23 ec changed the topic of #elliottcable to: a [Xxxiii][Xxxiv][Xxxv] [Xxxvi][Xxxvii] [Xxxviii][Xxxix][Xxxx][Xxxxi][Xxxxii][Xxxxiii][Xxxxiv][Xxxxv][Xxxxvi][Xxxxvii] [Xxxxviii][Xxxxix][Xxl][Xxli][Xxlii][Xxliii][Xxliv] slash s͔̞u͕͙p͙͓e̜̺r̼̦i̼̜o̖̬r̙̙ c̝͉ụ̧͘ḷ̡͙ţ͓̀ || #ELLIOTTCABLE is not about ELLIOTTCABLE [14:48]
BingoBoingo: Well, one small herd of boxes on its way here. Hopefully this time we've assembled the men and talents necessary to secure and sustain a digital space from which to serve the notices of hanging. [14:48]
mircea_popescu: gl! [14:49]
BingoBoingo: Hoping here that Señor Vulpes arrives intact and ready to deliver good news. [14:51]
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-06#1787066, I'm from and in The Netherlands. [15:03]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-06 15:04 mircea_popescu: where'you from ave1 ?! [15:03]
mircea_popescu: cheers. [15:04]
ave1: Remembered octets when this came up in the discussion. [15:04]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz, https://robek.world/featured/what-is-gnu-social-and-is-mastodon-social-a-twitter-clone/ [15:59]
mircea_popescu: and for the crit lit / media experts, here's a conundrum : cool it carol, easily the best movie made in the 70s and one of the best movies ever, came out 1970. in 1971, "plaza suite" featuring matthau and various women has a segment dedicated to this anti-carol (mimsy), a dumb murican priss who locks herself in bathroom on her wedding day. the clou of the entire production is made into some schmuck (almost as ugly as rob askw [16:09]
mircea_popescu: ith, and certainy with the same bad hair) knocking on her door and saying "mimsy ? cool it!" so matthau can lay into them with "he went to college for four years and all he's got is cool it ?!". [16:09]
mircea_popescu: now... is this a reference or ain't it ? [16:09]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-06#1787095 << old noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1640230 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742487 , afaik long dead [16:25]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-06 20:59 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz, https://robek.world/featured/what-is-gnu-social-and-is-mastodon-social-a-twitter-clone/ [16:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 19:37 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: here's an even worse, https://mastodon.social [16:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 16:20 phf: re upstack, there's been a resurgence of sorts of gopher protocol, various hipsters spinning up personal websites, etc. whether the resurgence was shortlived or i'm just late to the game, but there's already a community of wreckers (one of them groups is coming from this federated twitter platform, mastodon) discussing all the various ways that they want to "improve" gopher, tls, utf-8, markdown renderer, "minimal subset of html", etc. but at the same [16:25]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got brought up in #picolisp which is why i bothered. [16:26]
* mircea_popescu is engaged in a review of freenode channels, article to follow. [16:26]
* asciilifeform remembers a lengthy picolisp thread, but either forgot or did not know , that it had own chan [16:27]
mircea_popescu: seems kinda social. [16:27]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in ##openfpga, "<mithro> mircea_popescu: symbiflow.github.io -- what I'm spending all my spare time on" [16:28]
mircea_popescu: https://irclog.whitequark.org/~h~openfpga/2018-03-06#21488103 context. [16:29]
mircea_popescu: !!up nonlinear [16:35]
deedbot: nonlinear voiced for 30 minutes. [16:35]
nonlinear: Oh, Hi mircea_popescu just stumbled in here, and reading trilema.com to get a sense [16:35]
mircea_popescu: enjoy. [16:36]
mircea_popescu: though sense is usually an emergent property of half a year to a year's exploration [16:36]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in #picolisp lulz, https://devco.re/blog/2018/03/06/exim-off-by-one-RCE-exploiting-CVE-2018-6789-en/ [16:37]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re the xilinx reversing attempt , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-11#1769036 << prev thread [16:38]
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 16:49 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764242 << do I understand correctly that there's nowhere to store the result, as there seems to be enough hw adders in an 'ice'?also, it seems that the same authors are trying to reverse some xilinx nao: https://symbiflow.github.io/ [16:38]
mircea_popescu: o hey, it WAS mentioned! [16:38]
nonlinear: Yes, that seems about right from what I have seen so far. Exploration is a good term, and enjoyable. [16:39]
asciilifeform: iirc same author as 'icestorm' [16:39]
mircea_popescu: aha. goes by mithro i pinged him with it. [16:39]
nonlinear: Oh, I hope an opensource flow for Xilinx is achieved. [16:39]
mircea_popescu: nonlinear maybe once they're dead. [16:39]
asciilifeform: the seekrit tricky bit , is that if you can't compute an ~exact~ delay path, in nsec, between any point 'a' and 'b' in the fabric, yer tool is ~useless [16:40]
asciilifeform: ( in lattice's 'ice', the elements are homogeneous, so it was a nonproblem ) [16:40]
mircea_popescu: ie you must know placement, rather exactly. [16:41]
asciilifeform: aha [16:41]
asciilifeform: ( and in more 'luxurious' fpga, some components have variable delay depending on how configed , even ) [16:41]
mircea_popescu: !#s "radxa.com" [16:59]
a111: 0 results for "\"radxa.com\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22radxa.com%22 [16:59]
mircea_popescu: apparently this is a thing. [16:59]
mircea_popescu: http://wiki.radxa.com/Home [16:59]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'rockchip' rk series. asciilifeform ported trb to these in 2015. [17:02]
mircea_popescu: aha. they have a (dead) freenode chan. [17:02]
mircea_popescu: "ARTIQ (Advanced Real-Time Infrastructure for Quantum physics) is a leading-edge" [17:19]
mircea_popescu: leading-edge! it's a leading-edge! [17:19]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [17:21]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 10716.89, vol: 14101.07474564 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 10719.0, vol: 44379.30953958 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 10731.2, vol: 9893.67637678 | Volume-weighted last average: 10720.3301767 [17:21]
* mircea_popescu tried to read above-linked rundown of gnu failure at social media erection died about midway through. really, kids too clueless to comprehend how clueless they are writing "the history" of how spurious irc re-implementation went nowhere ? [17:30]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-other-dead-things/ << Trilema - And in other dead things... [17:34]
mod6: fuck all social media, i want gossip [17:35]
mircea_popescu: eh, i just want performance. they've got this thing now, where they're so desperate for cheap footage, they'll actually dress up athletes like they were people, seat them down in studios and make them talk. [17:36]
mircea_popescu: srsly nobody cares what random trained monkey has to say. [17:36]
mircea_popescu: strippers are for twerking not for tweeting. [17:36]
BingoBoingo: They have even went futher and started dressing up the broken monkeys in suits and moved them from shows about the sports they used to play to hosting the old people and NEET morning shows [17:53]
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/03/sede-atlantico/ << The Whet - Sede Atlantico [17:56]
* mircea_popescu ended up laughing ass off at trinque refuelling station once more. [18:28]
trinque: that one cracked me up. [18:29]
BingoBoingo: Balcony Disco! [18:30]
mircea_popescu: they're fuckin hopeless. [18:33]
mircea_popescu: government better be issuing more bonds. [18:33]
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