Forum logs for 04 Sep 2019

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/09/linux-kernel-genesis-and-early-entropy-users/ << bvt's backtrace -- Linux kernel: genesis and early entropy users [00:38]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933601 << i agree fwiw. i dun use 'htaccess' on own boxen and don't intend to . [00:51]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 21:39:00 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933497 << actually I fail to see the merit of sprinkling configuration throughout the filesystem, such that you can't interrogate the whole state of the webserver in a single place. [00:51]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933593 << consider to publish vpatch ? [00:52]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 21:10:06 trinque: ftr, test bot has been connected continuously in #trinque since the other day, looks nipped [00:52]
feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/to-ohio-and-back-again-a-photo-journey-with-cat-pics/ << lobbesblog -- To Ohio and back again: a photo journey (with cat pics) [02:21]
mircea_popescu: \http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/e25cdd47fad095a028165e3b44d5dd85?s=632&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=X << wtf is this then [03:50]
* mircea_popescu first read "i hope to share that bedroom with you", was a little scared. then re-read and all was well, sure, let's share all the boredom in the world.  [03:54]
spyked: lol, where's that from? looks like shot from "ren and stimpy", old '90s cartoon [04:14]
mircea_popescu: spyked, trinque 's avatar [04:32]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in holy shit breakage : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ contains the pics of my slut, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/letscallhershm.jpg they're formatted in the manner trilema formats pictures yet mysql can not find any article including it! [04:33]
mircea_popescu: i'm like 99% sure i published this, what the fuck, did some trilema articles vanish ?! [04:33]
mircea_popescu: all this because i'm looking for the footnote with that other slut on high heels butt-smiling at the camera to add to my comment on lobbes' article, though of course i can't find THAT, either. [04:34]
mircea_popescu: one day ima find something and retire. [04:34]
mircea_popescu: and in ongoing regexp lulz : "i am sure it was an image ~in a footnote~" "oh, ok then, WHERE `post_content` LIKE '%((%.jpg%%))%'" "mno, that only looks for pics after a footnote opener and before a footnote closer, not necessarily of the same footnote. it'll include all pics in an article with at least two footnotes, pretty much." "fuck" [04:40]
mircea_popescu: neways, ima call it good on steph kegels' excellent library slutout. which, incidentally, is one of the best training videos i know of. chick's got that ATTITUDE. [05:05]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933588 << this might work [05:34]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 20:36:55 asciilifeform: in principle could then have a mircea_popescu-style php reader, and e.g ada bot . [05:34]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933586 << in any case disintegration is probably the road towards manageability of software [05:34]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 20:34:57 asciilifeform: i actually did very similar thing in phuctor ( the 'werker', c proggy that uses multiple cpu ) as of '16 does not need to know about pg, it talks to the frontend via ordinary http [05:34]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933597 << fwis most people do this, 5 to 15 years in. [05:36]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 21:34:37 trinque: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-03-sep-2019#2553266 << recently I torched my whole wad of elisp, got fed up with setting the dials on someone else's machine "just so" and calling the "just so" mine. [05:36]
mircea_popescu: imo this makes emacs/elisp a poisonous pitfall, but not quite confident enough yet to make much noise about it. [05:36]
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, in a very theoretical principled view of the matter, "everyone drops it after sinking work into it for years" is a fine definition of evil. [05:37]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933611 << trilema uses it plenty file's like 50 lines [05:38]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 00:51:38 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933601 << i agree fwiw. i dun use 'htaccess' on own boxen and don't intend to . [05:38]
mircea_popescu: url rewriting and whatnot. [05:38]
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is the important part here. rewriting (as the math concept) is an important (really, the only) function of the numeric machines we have. ~only utility. and .htaccess kludge is an ad-hoc but well specified rewrite engine for the assorted glue (ad hoc and unspecified) needed to www. [05:40]
mircea_popescu: if calling an url is compilation htaccess does the preprocessing [05:40]
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933393 <-- no headbashing involved, man asked a legit q about ircbot (which still runs some of the bots here) and I answered the best I can [08:44]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 10:33:21 asciilifeform: ^ not only worx, but i posted not only proggy, but full explanation of algo, here. and yet folx ~still~ bashing heads over 'pinger threads' and other ???! epicycles?! [08:44]
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933417 <-- afaik sardinian close as well, possibly even closer. some ppl say romansch also, but I listened to some and only got about 20% of it. [08:48]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 14:01:17 asciilifeform: strangely sicilian seems almost plug-compatible with ro (sorta like those old sovok rocket connectors, 'only gotta hammer it once and the pins will bend...' ) [08:48]
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933398 <-- lol, I thought it had went down again when I saw this, got me alarmed there for a moment. [08:53]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 13:08:20 diana_coman: aww, feedbot can't seem to keep up with the pace of trilema comments, lol [08:53]
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933426 <-- speaking of which, I notice there's a feed in there, btcalpha.com, which consistently clogs up the bot. I'm guessing the site it points to is long dead, shall I remove it? [08:57]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 14:06:42 mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ti4kZ/?raw=true << feedbot scrollback, keks [08:57]
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933632 <-- I've found emacs useful for exactly one thing over the years: plugging "w3m" browser into it, which aids copy-pasting lines and posting comments on blogs when in terminal. other than that, /me also stopped chasing this particular wild goose about a year ago [09:02]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:52:04 mircea_popescu: imo this makes emacs/elisp a poisonous pitfall, but not quite confident enough yet to make much noise about it. [09:02]
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933613 <-- ftr, this is also on my list if trinque doesn't get to it first. [09:03]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 01:08:06 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933593 << consider to publish vpatch ? [09:03]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 21:10:06 trinque: ftr, test bot has been connected continuously in #trinque since the other day, looks nipped [09:03]
mircea_popescu: spyked, yeah, that was mikec [10:10]
mircea_popescu: actually, let's see the list of feeds you got, prolly time for a review [10:10]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933610 << bvt i will comment on this when i get a chance to eat it properly [11:15]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 00:38:55 feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/09/linux-kernel-genesis-and-early-entropy-users/ << bvt's backtrace -- Linux kernel: genesis and early entropy users [11:15]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933621 << it isn't impossible, iirc mircea_popescu had a sql oops coupla yrs ago (but i thought was fully restored?) [11:16]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 04:33:18 mircea_popescu: i'm like 99% sure i published this, what the fuck, did some trilema articles vanish ?! [11:16]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933626 << can't think of why it wouldn't work but you would get tight coupling (i.e. suddenly possible for logger to miss lines if www serv is overwhelmed , or lagging, or otherwise inoperable ) [11:17]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:34:02 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933588 << this might work [11:17]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933630 << 1st time i hear of such a thing. trinque what are you using instead nao ? [11:18]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:36:07 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933597 << fwis most people do this, 5 to 15 years in. [11:18]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933632 << i'ma move from emacs to 21st c. lispm. or, to grave. tertium non datur. [11:18]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:36:32 mircea_popescu: imo this makes emacs/elisp a poisonous pitfall, but not quite confident enough yet to make much noise about it. [11:18]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933638 << i know how it is used but imho it is 'naggum's bulldozer'. i.e. solved problems that ought not to occur to begin with [11:19]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:40:36 mircea_popescu: if calling an url is compilation htaccess does the preprocessing [11:19]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933645 << dead as of '16 iirc [11:20]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 08:57:46 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933426 <-- speaking of which, I notice there's a feed in there, btcalpha.com, which consistently clogs up the bot. I'm guessing the site it points to is long dead, shall I remove it? [11:20]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 14:06:42 mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ti4kZ/?raw=true << feedbot scrollback, keks [11:20]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933628 << exactly why i split the logotron kit into standalone parts. [11:21]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:34:47 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933586 << in any case disintegration is probably the road towards manageability of software [11:21]
asciilifeform: btw iirc lobbes has an experimental ver w/ sqlite. [11:22]
* asciilifeform brb:teatime [11:25]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: logotron page updated with your seals and link to your recipe ! [12:20]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: thank you for reading, signing, baking mirror, writing cookbook a+++ [12:21]
diana_coman: asciilifeform: nice, thank you! [12:22]
asciilifeform: and incidentally diana_coman is the all-time champ for 'read & eat asciilifeform's worx' atm ! [12:23]
diana_coman: heh, I can recommend this sort of eating - keeps one lean and alert!! [12:23]
asciilifeform: hm lobbes did i leave out your sig ? i could've sworn there was one. plox to link if so. [12:26]
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933653 <-- dun dun dun! --> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hSKfI/?raw=true [12:35]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 10:26:15 mircea_popescu: actually, let's see the list of feeds you got, prolly time for a review [12:35]
diana_coman: huh, I don't even recall what fr.anco.is was [12:35]
asciilifeform: davout [12:35]
diana_coman: yes, just saw it with last post in Jan 2017. [12:36]
* spyked bbl, publishing this month's report and then out to meat chores [12:36]
asciilifeform: davout went awol 2+ y ago iirc. (though his site, like e.g that of esthlos , still up ) [12:36]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes also last post 1+y ago [12:37]
asciilifeform: phf's -- nov. '18 [12:37]
asciilifeform: jurov's -- feb of '19 [12:38]
asciilifeform: mocky's -- ditto [12:38]
asciilifeform: mikec has been dead for the entirety of 'era 2' . [12:39]
asciilifeform: spyked: errybody else on the list, is actively alive. [12:39]
asciilifeform: ( the only stone-dead link, is mikec ) [12:40]
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/09e-tmsr-work-v.html << The Tar Pit -- TMSR work: plan for 2019 M9, and a very brief discussion [13:03]
asciilifeform: spyked: 'I still haven't genesized The Tar Pit by the way, is there anyone else out there interested in using it?' << me. i'ma be moving my www and quite interested in all approaches to de-php-izing . and you have imho a++ visual coat on yours. [13:05]
asciilifeform: ( would need at least the comment knob tho, as i understand it is presently missing ) [13:06]
mircea_popescu: spyked, wow look at that. okay, so btcalpha, anco.is, esthlos.com can all come off. [13:10]
mircea_popescu: !q s barksinthewind [13:11]
snsabot: 48 results for "barksinthewind" in #trilema [13:11]
mircea_popescu: !q help [13:11]
snsabot: mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime [13:11]
mircea_popescu: so long ago i even forgot who the fuck it was [13:12]
mircea_popescu: spyked, barksinthewind.com too [13:12]
mircea_popescu: jurov, you intend to start blogging or taking that off also ? [13:14]
jurov: mircea_popescu: not anytime soon [13:47]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did anyone ever find out where esthlos went ? [13:57]
asciilifeform: meanwhile: BingoBoingo : 1st crate of rk's is here. [14:24]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nope [14:24]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty for the update [14:24]
mircea_popescu: spyked, explo.yt off the list also thus [14:24]
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933619 << yep, ren of ren&stimpy fame, from the Space Madness episode [14:53]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 04:32:57 mircea_popescu: spyked, trinque 's avatar [14:53]
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933649 << patch is already in my hopper, just watching the testbot for a day or two longer. still connected btw. [14:54]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 09:03:11 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933613 <-- ftr, this is also on my list if trinque doesn't get to it first. [14:54]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 01:08:06 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933593 << consider to publish vpatch ? [14:54]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 21:10:06 trinque: ftr, test bot has been connected continuously in #trinque since the other day, looks nipped [14:54]
trinque: ^ possibly want to ignore /log/$knownChan instead of domain-prefixed [14:55]
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933660 << still emacs+exwm, just with init.el of maybe 100-200 lines [14:56]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 11:18:03 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933630 << 1st time i hear of such a thing. trinque what are you using instead nao ? [14:56]
trinque: not using it for irc, mail, teledildonics [14:56]
asciilifeform: trinque: aa, so you jettisoned some scriptolade, rather than emacs per se. i misread. [14:56]
* asciilifeform cleans his erry yr or so [14:56]
trinque: yeah, trying to avoid the "chairs stacked just so" life [14:57]
asciilifeform: imho there's pretty wide spectrum b/w 'knife sharpened just-so' and 'chairs stacked just-so' [14:57]
asciilifeform: oblig. old lolcat re subj. [15:00]
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933716 << ignore where ? [15:04]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 14:55:03 trinque: ^ possibly want to ignore /log/$knownChan instead of domain-prefixed [15:04]
trinque: the bots are triggering each other on logline quotes [15:05]
asciilifeform: trinque: per mircea_popescu's spec, it aint a bug. ( and to switch it off, imho The Right Thing is simply to look against list of bots ) [15:06]
asciilifeform: the logotron kit takes list of known bots (past, present) in config , already, for the www displayer [15:06]
asciilifeform: re emacs scriptolade -- really gotta keep it clean, for, if nuffin else -- the fact that it uses a 1970s style lisp where 'stop-the-world gc' is in use , not really meant for heaviweight programmatism [15:12]
asciilifeform: trinque: do you know, perchance, whatever happened to the 'climacs' people ? [15:13]
asciilifeform: was gabriel_laddel the last 1 of these alive ? [15:13]
asciilifeform: 'climacs' seems to be one of those 'cursed' items where errybody who touches it ends up lost to madness [15:14]
trinque: no idea my only real brush with them was gl [15:49]
trinque: imho impolite that he didn't even post a picture of a stump before leaving [15:51]
asciilifeform: trinque: possibly simply died [16:06]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: all 16 rk's are here nao. [16:53]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Very nice! Let the assembling commence! [16:53]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ps not in yet . [16:54]
asciilifeform: expected in ~week . [16:54]
BingoBoingo: Well, at least things are in places [16:54]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: thing will run on a conventional atx (1u) ps , incidentally. [16:55]
BingoBoingo: nice [16:55]
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/illinois-police-department-child-groomer-arrested-for-child-porn/ << Qntra -- Illinois: Police Department Child Groomer Arrested For Child Porn [18:35]
BingoBoingo: In other news, it looks like Europe and North America can get back to fake "plastic recyling" exports: "El cambio que el líder PRO imprimió a la vieja orden Nº 181/1992, que por entonces habilitaba a la importación de basura de otros países y que generó un escándalo por la aparición de residuos nucleares en el gobierno de Menem, pasó tan solo por un artículo: según trabajadores de la Economía Popular y ambient [18:49]
BingoBoingo: alistas, la modificación “flexibiliza el debido control ecológico”, librando a la Argentina a transformarse en un país receptor de basura peligrosa como la nuclear, proveniente de Europa y otras regiones." [18:49]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: update : turns out the particular iron dun weld very well. i'ma use pneumatic riveter like normal people, with these. [20:26]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: aite [20:27]
asciilifeform: it's how traditional pc chassis gets its mb legs. so imho oughta suffice. [20:27]
* asciilifeform for next go-around , perhaps will get sheet metal bending machine and may as well make the 1u cages from sheets also. [20:29]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the off-the-shelf selection for these is annoyingly limited (and expensive) imho [20:31]
asciilifeform: in the early days, iirc mircea_popescu scoffed that 'spending fat dough to fly steel sheets' but they're in fact the magick ingredient that gets the internals through orc customs . [20:32]
BingoBoingo: Just remember the tolerances for fitting 1U case in rack isn't too forgiving. [20:34]
asciilifeform: indeed [20:34]
asciilifeform: tho 'short' is generally curable [20:35]
asciilifeform: ( simply use longer screw. ) [20:35]
asciilifeform: at any rate it aint as if i dun have a 19" rack here to test-fit'em in [20:36]
Mocky: good evening [22:25]
asciilifeform: wb Mocky ! [22:29]
Mocky: thx [22:31]
Mocky: I fell down a rabbit hole [22:32]
asciilifeform: Mocky: hm? [22:57]
trinque: ohey it's a Mocky. how goes? [22:59]
lobbes: wb Mocky [23:00]
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933678 << was it this one you were thinking of ? [23:01]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 12:26:26 asciilifeform: hm lobbes did i leave out your sig ? i could've sworn there was one. plox to link if so. [23:01]
asciilifeform: lobbes: possibly. this 1 ended up subsumed tho [23:03]
lobbes: asciilifeform: did it? I patched it to sit on top of the "line_wraps" patch [23:04]
asciilifeform: lobbes: iirc subsumed into 'uniturds' . [23:05]
lobbes: hmm that was for the "reader.py" though right? My patch contained fix for the "eat_dump.py" [23:07]
lobbes: fix being phf's uniturd algo [23:07]
asciilifeform: hmm then possib. not subsumed ! i'ma look. [23:08]
lobbes: there was an extra fix for eat_dump.py in mine as well that dealt with teh null payloadz [23:08]
lobbes: in any case I'll repatch if needed [23:09]
asciilifeform: dun think it needs regrind, should be good as is. [23:09]
lobbes: nice! [23:09]
lobbes: in other news, bot in test chan has been up for almost 4 days. [23:31]
lobbes: Of course this is with a near-empty database (not sure how much this matters, tbh). Will be taken offline shortly though for more testing [23:31]
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