Forum logs for 03 Apr 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, I get a different checksum on your tar.gz >> 378914b4b8363d941252afc46ae5b9fdd8bf19f37cbc767f60057470000d6f2eca0ed0d7c822d8124e5396762df25d1dfa6a05173ae79eca2aa47ded5117548a tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt.tar.gz [00:05]
phf: <mircea_popescu> [23:48:39] anyway, this entire "i don't understand what's << it's like the audience in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q4n5TQnpA [00:12]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron checksum is of the extracted file tho [00:13]
danielpbarron: whoops, n/m then it checks [00:16]
mircea_popescu: again with the weird brits lol ? [00:47]
phf: i just can't get over that video [00:48]
mircea_popescu: why lol [00:48]
phf: just the amount of confusion all around [00:48]
mircea_popescu: should prolly blog about it. [00:48]
mircea_popescu: o hey, nice butterfly! [02:44]
oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/yummymummies/ [09:12]
mircea_popescu: phf : "Suntem buni cetățeni amuzate Și pilonul rușinos Măruntaie ale ultimului preot Ultimul rege șarpe. FSE: Tsyavlovsky. "Suntem buni cetățeni amuzat ...": (epigrame despre accesorii Pușkin). - 1962 (text)" [09:20]
mircea_popescu: (we are good citizens she-amusing and the snake pillar, entrails of last poet last king snake.) [09:21]
mircea_popescu: oh i'm sorry, the ~shameful~ pillar. [09:22]
shinohai: "Look, I don't care if there's a prophecy" <<<LOL [09:25]
mircea_popescu: davout : fr.anco.is root loads a list of articles, however http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-formal-application-and-letter-of-intent/ and http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-first-progress-report/ both 404 ? [09:28]
mircea_popescu: the /wp-uploads/ references still work, looks like he fucked up his redirects [09:30]
mircea_popescu: jurov : s.qntr added. [09:35]
deedbot-: [Trilema] Qntra (S.QNTR) March 2016 Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/qntra-sqntr-march-2016-statement/ [09:50]
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/c0c080300cfc02a1085bdb3f74629190/tumblr_o2qtj3tm4e1rztma9o1_1280.jpg [09:52]
mircea_popescu: $up xx_ [10:05]
deedbot: xx_ voiced for 30 minutes. [10:05]
mircea_popescu: ahh dude this is great. [10:05]
xx_: just reading, because no logs. But thanks. [10:11]
mircea_popescu: a yea, coming soon. [10:19]
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgvm23MWZU1qcesmoo1_1280.jpg [10:54]
* asciilifeform had dream that he was in buenos aires but for some reason had a 'minox' the size of a matchbox, and was spending days and days trying to find film for it [11:01]
mircea_popescu: to film what ? [11:01]
asciilifeform: who even knows! [11:02]
mircea_popescu: o dang, i never took you lot to the ancient camera cafe did i ? [11:02]
asciilifeform: nope [11:02]
asciilifeform: will it have film for the minox! [11:02]
mircea_popescu: there's a cafe here, decor consists of well > 1k old cameras, up to about 1960s or so [11:02]
mircea_popescu: possibly. already voalated lol. [11:02]
asciilifeform: well in the dream this is actually what happened! found a shop that sold it, but the clerk nonchalantly wound it from a bobbin in broad daylight, ignoring my grimaces [11:03]
asciilifeform: lulzily, i have never actually owned a 'minox' or any such thing [11:04]
mircea_popescu: aha! [11:04]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgvm23MWZU1qcesmoo1_1280.jpg << they have faces!!1111 [11:07]
asciilifeform: mega-chix [11:07]
mircea_popescu: somethinjg for everyone! [11:16]
punkman: oh hey it worx [12:42]
punkman: gd'afternoon [12:43]
punkman: asciilifeform: I shot an expired roll with pentax 110 this week, pretty fun [12:44]
punkman: fuji/kodak stopped making new 110 film years ago iirc [12:45]
punkman: some folks made a film splitting jig and then cut 35mm rolls into two 110 rolls (in darkroom of course) [12:46]
asciilifeform: punkman: pretty sure the minox aficionados have a similar thing [12:46]
punkman: I think a couple small factories occasionally make batches these days, but I still have like a dozen expired rolls [12:47]
punkman: free "instagram" filters [12:47]
asciilifeform: l0l [12:47]
punkman: also from minox, these cool pocket-darkroom thingies http://www.submin.com/8x11/collection/minox/accessories/developing_tanks.htm [12:56]
asciilifeform: who the hell ~doesn't~ process b&w at home [12:57]
asciilifeform: sorta the whole point of b&w [12:57]
mircea_popescu: you can prolly wash and recast your own film really. [13:05]
mircea_popescu: for black and white. [13:05]
punkman: huge pita cutting and loading it back into cassettes [13:05]
mircea_popescu: true. [13:22]
jurov: S.QNTR was distributed [13:48]
punkman: http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/56febff0a1bb8d3c3495adf4/ [14:08]
danielpbarron: $up peter_lambert [14:25]
deedbot: peter_lambert voiced for 30 minutes. [14:25]
midnightmagic: yay [14:28]
mircea_popescu: $up davout [15:11]
deedbot: davout voiced for 30 minutes. [15:11]
davout: mircea_popescu: ty [15:11]
davout: so i tried "$up", and then "$v OTP" against deedbot [15:12]
davout: i get "deedbot hands you a broomstick." [15:12]
davout: which i fail to compute [15:12]
mircea_popescu: you pm it $up and it says broomstick ? [15:12]
davout: nah, it gives me an otp link [15:13]
davout: it answers that way when i feed it the decrypted otp back [15:13]
mircea_popescu: hm. trinque ? [15:14]
davout: yeah, told him [15:17]
ben_vulpes: http://i.imgur.com/6B1syOO.jpg [15:50]
ben_vulpes: and for asciilifeform: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3834/19305969764_42490e7635_o.jpg [15:51]
ben_vulpes: nominally, a "Intel D27512 UV Erasable PROM from 1989" [15:51]
diana_coman: fwiw deedbot worked for me, although it had 1 min delay to give the otp [15:55]
mircea_popescu: $gettrust deedbot davout [15:58]
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 7 by 7 connections. [15:58]
mircea_popescu: $gettrust deedbot diana_coman [15:58]
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 3 by 3 connections. [15:58]
mircea_popescu: seems pretty snappy [15:58]
diana_coman: it *was* snappy on giving voice so: delay at $up, snappy at $v maybe just a hiccup, no idea [15:59]
phf: maybe it was garbage collecting! [16:23]
jurov: lol phf... then implement "imma garbage collecting, come back later" message? [16:26]
jurov: or, better, ask user "0x524537f3 has refcount 2, found references from 0x546876fed, garbage collect [yn]?" [16:28]
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/0TK5TNG.txt << and pray tell, 50% OF WHAT [17:44]
mircea_popescu: $up Apocalyp1ic [18:25]
deedbot: Apocalyp1ic voiced for 30 minutes. [18:25]
ben_vulpes: "regular" gasoline for 1.97/gal, "premium clear" (somewhat higher octane, no ethanol) gas for 3.17/gal [18:42]
ben_vulpes: this has been your consumer energy cost cum shitflation report [18:42]
mircea_popescu: ie, crazy-five-year-plan-gas doublespoken as "regular" being excised at only 67%, while actual regular at 84% [18:48]
mircea_popescu: and yet the sane thing's still not twice the price. [18:48]
ben_vulpes: it's not all plain 'excise', there's rather a lot of corn in "regular". [18:50]
ben_vulpes: fully granted, corn in the gas is a tax of its own. [18:50]
mircea_popescu: the other one's taxed so what's left is about half. [18:50]
mircea_popescu: ie, actual economic agent makes 1.97 * (1-.67) for crazy-five-year-plan-gas and 3.17 * (1-.84) for actual regular. [18:51]
mircea_popescu: and yet still prefers to sell the actual regular for merely 0.5072 rather than pocket the 0.65 for crazy-five-year-plan-gas. [18:52]
mircea_popescu: because, obviously, "entrepreneurs hate socialism". either that or nature hates it outright. [18:52]
mircea_popescu: davout http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-first-progress-report#comment-8366 to assuage teh concerned [18:54]
deedbot-: [Qntra] 20th Anniversary Of Kaczynski's Capture Today - http://qntra.net/2016/04/20th-anniversary-of-kaczynskis-capture-today/ [18:59]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how did you derive those rates? [18:59]
deedbot-: [Trilema] BitBet (S.BBET) March 2016 Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/bitbet-sbbet-march-2016-statement/ [19:01]
BingoBoingo: Lulz for opening day (no dude who promted rule change is not yet on a 25 man roster) https://archive.is/ECvLi [19:11]
mircea_popescu: that part's complicated o.O [19:23]
asciilifeform: looks like mircea_popescu found the 200 ? [19:35]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes> and for asciilifeform: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3834/19305969764_42490e7635_o.jpg << i think i posted that [19:36]
asciilifeform: or possibly one of my old colleagues did, i left a bunch of those roms and my microscope with them [19:37]
asciilifeform: this is a cruddy shot tho [19:37]
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/cZlRWor << what i had lying round [19:40]
asciilifeform: taken with shitcam on pnohe through the ocular [19:41]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you mean "found". [19:45]
asciilifeform: well, nailed down where the number came from [19:46]
mircea_popescu: twas never anything else. [19:46]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm ok [19:51]
mike_c: the highest bid at the end of Wednesday the 6th of April 2016 << GMT? [20:40]
deedbot: hands you a broomstick. [20:40]
mike_c: and often something like "the later of that or 10 minutes after the last legitimate bid" kind of thing for an outcry auction like this [20:41]
mike_c: ^ davout [20:41]
phf: asciilifeform: so is it possible to build chromium without dbus? [21:30]
BingoBoingo: phf: alf seems to run chromium, so probably? Journey to doing so likely unpleasant [21:46]
phf: that's what it looks like, a rabbit hole [21:46]
BingoBoingo: It's more a physical plant time of year anyways. [21:47]
* BingoBoingo researching how to fix/replace sillcock [21:47]
asciilifeform: phf: i never managed it. but you ~can~ run it on a box without dbus, it appears. [21:51]
phf: this linux laptop business is 2 steps forward 10 steps back [21:52]
asciilifeform: aha. [21:52]
asciilifeform: still more usable than crapple, where i was unable - despite many weeks of sweat - to get very very basic things running (e.g., a locally-built gnat, or a mips-gcc toolchain) [21:53]
phf: i suppose it's one of those cases where one is good at what one knows [21:56]
phf: i'm having a hard time deciding if i should just keep using 10.9 until it's fully deprecated by unix userspace even, or switch asap [21:57]
phf: fwiw i have working gnat on os x [21:58]
asciilifeform: with 'gps' ? [21:58]
asciilifeform: and with NO BINARIES FROM OUTSIDE ? [21:58]
asciilifeform: and does it build for targets other than x86-64 ? [21:58]
mircea_popescu: lol get out. [21:58]
asciilifeform: (i have shit gnat on crapple also, it is not hard) [21:58]
phf: you need to spec your problems better :> [21:59]
mircea_popescu: was it ever possible to stand up os-x anything "with no binaries from outisde" ? [21:59]
asciilifeform: phf is learning mircea_popescu's problem-solving algo i see! l0l [21:59]
asciilifeform: 1) don't have problem 2) ??? 3) profit [21:59]
mircea_popescu: no im sure he knew it from b4 [21:59]
mircea_popescu: speaking of which... log ? [22:00]
asciilifeform: i've been using his log for dayz - http://glyf.org/h/t-a [22:00]
mircea_popescu: oh [22:00]
asciilifeform: (it is missing linkability and any kind of control knobs but otherwise is spiffy0 [22:01]
asciilifeform: ) [22:01]
mircea_popescu: lol. asciilifeform is learning phf'sproblem-solving algo i see!!! [22:01]
phf: hmm, almost, maybe 2 more hours of work. deployable, but i want log collector to stand on its own, rather than rely on znc before i deploy [22:01]
mircea_popescu: tbh i really liked the old log css. [22:01]
asciilifeform: ^ also [22:02]
mircea_popescu: a cool. [22:02]
mircea_popescu: to celebrate, ima share that i saw kundun, and it's fucking stupid. [22:02]
mircea_popescu: but that aside, anyone else notice the whole tibetan thing reeks of overgrown sioux or somesuch ? [22:03]
asciilifeform: it exists entirely as a usgtronic 'oh noez empire that isn't us is gassing its vermin' [22:03]
asciilifeform: from day0 [22:03]
mircea_popescu: apparently primitive hunter-gatherer societies accidentally left behind their time end up in the same ruts. [22:03]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tibet existed long before the england that spawned the us was invented. [22:04]
asciilifeform: tibet - existed [22:04]
asciilifeform: whining re cn demolition thereof - no. [22:04]
mircea_popescu: doing the same thing as now - sorta playing romania to sino-mongol disputes. [22:04]
mircea_popescu: yes. [22:04]
asciilifeform: 'The Tibetans refer to the Dalai Lama as 'Kundun', which means 'The Presence'. He was forced to escape from his native home, Tibet, when communist China invaded and enforced an oppressive regime upon the peaceful nation of Tibet.' << barfalicious [22:05]
phf: "peaceful nation of tibet"? [22:05]
mircea_popescu: the chinese version, equally accurate, being that they brought the red light to a ridiculous sort of still-medieval sicily. [22:05]
mircea_popescu: in 19fucking50. [22:05]
mircea_popescu: anyway. scorsese. [22:07]
mircea_popescu: there's nice hats and the people have pleasant voices. [22:07]
mircea_popescu: wtf tho, still stupid. [22:07]
asciilifeform: we have professional tibet whiner squads here in washington [22:08]
asciilifeform: along with 'falun gong' fanatics [22:08]
mircea_popescu: they have armenians here not so much tibet. [22:08]
asciilifeform: the latter, dress in yellow and set up stands with pictures of dismembered corpses, etc. and nondescript trucks with caption 'organ collection' etc. [22:09]
mircea_popescu: it's like ... "and then the turks came, killed all the men and sold the women off into slavery" and somehow the expected answer is something other than "omfg, here when ?!" [22:09]
asciilifeform: the pro whiners typically orbit the few km radius of white house and other places where bureaucrats and tourists can be found [22:09]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that some sort of penis slang ? [22:10]
mircea_popescu: here too! [22:10]
mircea_popescu: fancy that, do you suppose konspiraci, or do you suppose idiocy is clever in the same way everywhere. [22:10]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: part of their mythology is that cn disassembles miscreants for spare parts (afaik this is not untrue, but the scale of it is exaggerated for effect) [22:10]
mircea_popescu: the trite slyness of stupidity. [22:10]
mircea_popescu: aha. [22:11]
mircea_popescu: and before communism, cn cooked dead babies. it's a lively place. [22:11]
asciilifeform: civilized folk eat their babies raw, everybody knows!1111 [22:11]
mircea_popescu: for proportionate lulz : http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=7333 [22:12]
phf: i'm vaguely disappointed that chinese didn't preserve tibet as a kind of natural habitat, but had to go civilizing the place [22:12]
asciilifeform: phf: iirc they were going to, but then went in and barfed and broke out the ddt [22:13]
* danielpbarron is a descendant of armenians who escaped the genocide [22:13]
mircea_popescu: o thus the good looking beard ? [22:13]
danielpbarron: heh i guess [22:14]
asciilifeform: according to one version, the turks invented the mass gassing (they marched a buncha armenians into a cave and lit fires) [22:14]
danielpbarron: also marched them into the desert to starve [22:14]
asciilifeform: aha, more famously. [22:15]
mircea_popescu: so what's your stance on the armenian genocide ? [22:15]
danielpbarron: i'm not bitter about it seems to me those that survived are better off for it [22:16]
mircea_popescu: as per usual. [22:16]
asciilifeform: as i understand, the ones to be clobbered were the ~most~ turk-integrated [22:17]
danielpbarron: i think it was probably a genocide (as opposed to a war or however the turks spin it) but that's probably more humiliating a stance for the armenians to take [22:17]
asciilifeform: so if they had remained alive, 'armenian' today might simply mean just a subtype of turk [22:17]
mircea_popescu: like kurd ? :D [22:19]
asciilifeform: aha. [22:19]
mircea_popescu: and in other news [22:19]
mircea_popescu: google albert fish [22:19]
gribble: Albert Fish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish> ALBERT FISH - American Hauntings: <http://www.prairieghosts.com/fish.html> Albert Fish | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers: <http://murderpedia.org/male.F/f/fish-albert.htm> [22:19]
asciilifeform: 'He also hit himself repeatedly with a nail-studded paddle and inserted wool doused with lighter fluid into his anus and set it alight.' << l0l! [22:20]
mircea_popescu: other famous washdcians [22:21]
mircea_popescu: (also, how to know if nerdy chick is really into weird, or just namedropping the mainstream-famous set) [22:23]
BingoBoingo: ticker --market all [22:30]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 417.93, vol: 1440.36881650 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 416.807, vol: 3747.14804 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 419.85, vol: 4749.58575109 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 420.391893, vol: 16053.81250000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 421.0, vol: 507.82944006 | Volume-weighted last average: 419.665665715 [22:31]
BingoBoingo: more [22:31]
gribble: Error: You haven't asked me a command perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. [22:31]
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/03/certified-ethical-hacker-website-caught-spreading-crypto-ransomware [22:31]
asciilifeform: 'For the past four days, including during the hour that this post was being prepared on Thursday morning, a major security certification organization has been spreading TeslaCrypt malware—despite repeated warnings from outside researchers.' [22:31]
mircea_popescu: and yet the derp won't name names. [22:32]
mircea_popescu: fuck him, the stupid whore that spawned him and the drunk she spawned him with. [22:32]
asciilifeform: which names [22:32]
mircea_popescu: "a major". [22:32]
mircea_popescu: really. [22:32]
asciilifeform: 'EC-Council, the Albuquerque, New Mexico-based professional organization that administers the Certified Ethical Hacker program, started spreading the scourge on Monday.' [22:33]
asciilifeform: ^ named ? [22:33]
mircea_popescu: muchbetter. [22:33]
asciilifeform: ^ next para [22:33]
mircea_popescu: the shit doesn't belong in writing. [22:33]
asciilifeform: sure it's mostly a snoar. [22:33]
* mircea_popescu has been on a crusade to detrain (mostly women) from the retarded habit of generalizing summarization as displayed here for a decade now. [22:34]
asciilifeform: Run Moar Winblowz. [22:34]
trinque: davout: I figgered it out. it was pissed about whitespace at end [23:33]
trinque: will fix, ty for telling me [23:33]
ben_vulpes: in other completely unrelated news, i went out to what passes for wine country here to refresh the office cellars. found some delicious bottles for not absurd prices, lovely people, etc. but! stunner to me at least: [23:42]
ben_vulpes: 1982 muscle car driven at 75-95 mph for 160 miles gets 18.25 mpg [23:42]
ben_vulpes: give or take a figure of significance or two. [23:43]
BingoBoingo: Seriously, the window sticker numbers are a lie [23:46]
ben_vulpes: does this CBlock->nDos thing actually matter? [23:59]
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