Forum logs for 28 Dec 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=12-12-2015#1341775 >>> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tripsit+me&l=1 [00:00]
assbot Logged on 12-12-2015 04:47:27; *: BingoBoingo wonders if there is a 12 step group for LSD adlai can explore, remembers medically induced ibogaine hallucinations likely conntributed to Bill's spiritual experience [00:00]
assbot Let me google that for you ... ( http://bit.ly/1IxLf1b ) [00:00]
* BingoBoingo hopes that the ipad ben_vulpes gets to shut his kid up is a vaxstation [00:00]
ben_vulpes amiga or c64 but right idea [00:01]
BingoBoingo Maybe Apple IIGS? [00:01]
* adlai long since pankakked from there, but the place is ;;rate tripsit 10 in his book [00:01]
adlai A1 steak sauce people [00:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46800 @ 0.00051383 = 24.0472 BTC [+] {3} [00:01]
BingoBoingo adlai: But how is tripsit a 12 step group if it doesn't even have step 1? [00:02]
adlai kick a troll in the nuts faster than you can say "why would you do that here" [00:02]
adlai BingoBoingo: because it has rule #1, so you need to source the drugs yourselrf [00:02]
BingoBoingo That's like the exact opposite of step one. [00:02]
adlai aha [00:02]
adlai !b 5 [00:03]
assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1QT56R1.txt ) [00:03]
adlai oops [00:03]
adlai the beautifyl thing about deedbot-algo is that you can verify without spending [00:05]
trinque nice and simple. [00:05]
ben_vulpes do many deedbot- outputs get spent? [00:06]
ben_vulpes trinque: also [00:06]
* adlai checks every now and then, sweeps [00:06]
trinque adlai has picked up some [00:06]
adlai it's so much better than leaking trilema credits [00:06]
trinque in other deedbot news, I've got a CL bot that knows how to ghost and get his name back [00:06]
trinque coupla more weekends and I'll shoot the python one in the head, then make the CL one eat his own code [00:07]
adlai pics^H^H^Hource or it deedn't happen [00:07]
adlai aka "not necessarily in that order" [00:07]
ben_vulpes ouroubot? [00:07]
trinque heh [00:08]
trinque could make him eat a genesis v-patch of himself [00:08]
ben_vulpes s/c/s/// [00:08]
trinque aha [00:08]
adlai first you'll have to add a v command that curls vpatches [00:08]
BingoBoingo adlai: Step 1: We admitted we were powerless over alcohol that our lives had become unmanageable. "WHO cares to admit complete defeat? Practically no one, of course. Every natural instinct cries out against the idea of personal powerlessness. It is truly awful to admit that, glass in hand, we have warped our minds into such an obsession for destructive drinking that only an act of Providence can remove it from us." [00:09]
BingoBoingo "No other kind of bankruptcy is like this one. Alcohol, now become the rapacious creditor, bleeds us of all selfsufficiency and all will to resist its demands. Once this stark act is accepted, our bankruptcy as going human concern is complete." - 12&12 page 21 [00:09]
adlai and put that in its own pipe, and smoke [00:09]
adlai !down BingoBoingo [00:09]
adlai assbot): adlai, you can't do that to BingoBoingo. (Trust: L1 1, L2 12) [00:09]
BingoBoingo lol [00:09]
adlai but i thought wot mathematics was incommutable :( [00:09]
BingoBoingo Butt assbot trusts too [00:10]
ben_vulpes incuntmuteable [00:10]
adlai oic [00:10]
* adlai goes diddle her twat already [00:10]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [00:30]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 427.21, vol: 7281.56632429 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 425.861, vol: 6230.34925 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 426.3, vol: 24849.1143505 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 410.0, vol: 1.22437492 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 428.062248, vol: 61909.74250000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 428.0, vol: 32.51342368 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 433.552, vol: 24.69601643 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [00:30]
BingoBoingo ;;more [00:30]
gribble 427.428343752 [00:30]
BingoBoingo UNCRASHING [00:30]
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adlai dat 420 bounce [00:35]
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adlai dat checksum [00:48]
adlai deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/2FYF3ES.txt [00:48]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RN6HBW ) [00:48]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [00:48]
* adlai would build it, and they'd come, but he is le lazy... [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36868 @ 0.00050917 = 18.7721 BTC [-] {2} [00:48]
ben_vulpes where was that? [01:00]
adlai here, there, in between [01:04]
adlai and now... everywhere [01:04]
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adlai !v assbot:adlai.rate.trinque.3:10f3f2ecbc7b662971edccdd24770d859e50389dd7cdc92bac50166fb3b4fd4e [01:12]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for trinque from 2 to 3 with note: i used his tool so much it broke [01:13]
adlai !v assbot:adlai.rate.asciilifeform.3:cbab6fa56a5bd443ad000495b5d01edccf9a33e84216b207c29a35ed8c94ba8e [01:15]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for asciilifeform from 2 to 3 with note: implementational in instrumenting the new key management paradime [01:15]
BingoBoingo ;;google CVE-2015-3641 [01:18]
gribble CVE-2015-3641 - Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures - The ...: ; [bitcoin-dev] Upcoming DOS vulnerability announcements for Bitcoin ...: ; CVE-2014-3641 - NVD - Detail: [01:18]
adlai there goes the uncrash... twas fun while it lasted [01:19]
adlai !v assbot:adlai.rate.liquidassets.-1:483f07366c480206c52e90e6223639072ea568b76d8c5e9257c8ec1357743680 [01:19]
assbot Successfully added a rating of -1 for liquidassets with note: has yet to improve SNR, but negrates are an invitation to improve, you jimcrowwit-chickenshit [01:19]
adlai ;;later tell mike_c it's goot to have btcalpha.com back [01:21]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:21]
adlai dat 30day change! such signal! [01:21]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell mike_c ty for the return of web [01:22]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:22]
kakobrekla asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/1T8SQVH.txt [01:23]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QVAWGF ) [01:23]
kakobrekla i have no explanation for this but its not assbots fault per se it seems. [01:23]
adlai thought plickens. [01:23]
* assbot gives voice to kakobrekla [01:25]
kakobrekla !up asciilifeform [01:25]
* assbot gives voice to asciilifeform [01:25]
asciilifeform ty kakobrekla. it is not assbot's fault, but the keyring's [01:25]
adlai re:bundle-390596, if it ever shows up: it's the best kind of snr amplifier, fueled by the tears of gamblers and the sweat of 'investors' [01:25]
asciilifeform your keyring appears to still contain my key expiring on dec. 25. [01:25]
asciilifeform (which is to say, same key, but lacking the renewal packet i added on 25th) [01:25]
asciilifeform the new key was sent to several different sks boxen [01:26]
adlai fwiw back when i had to cull a key, something to do with revocation certificates seemed to do the trick [01:26]
kakobrekla pub 2048R/01ABFFC7 2012-12-20 [expires: 2016-12-24] [01:26]
kakobrekla Key fingerprint = 1721 5D11 8B72 3950 7FAF ED98 B982 28A0 01AB FFC7 [01:26]
kakobrekla uid Stanislav Datskovskiy [01:26]
kakobrekla seems like 2016 is the new one, no? [01:26]
asciilifeform aha [01:26]
adlai iirc it also made deedbot- roll over and play funny [01:26]
asciilifeform so what gives [01:26]
kakobrekla no fuckin idea [01:26]
kakobrekla te exported key is new or old in dpaste? [01:27]
asciilifeform appears to be the new one [01:27]
kakobrekla well then wtf. [01:27]
asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/3Q5N0NN [01:29]
assbot dpaste: 3Q5N0NN ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmTSzF ) [01:29]
asciilifeform all of this might have something to do with my switching to 1.4 this year [01:31]
adlai was than an upgrade down or retro? [01:36]
adlai (in king's english, what the hell were you using before?) [01:36]
asciilifeform adlai: 2 [01:37]
kakobrekla well you are the expert in these matters, what are we suppose to do now [01:38]
* adlai is the expert in brainfuck, not assbottery [01:39]
adlai damn Anonymous is an impatient customer... double-check, payout payout... people need to rethink their liquidity [01:40]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: try verifying something i signed with the new key [01:41]
asciilifeform notice that jurov's turdatron was able to!! [01:41]
asciilifeform or the aws-killer script could not have been posted. [01:41]
adlai https://bitbet.us/bet/1218/luke-skywalker-turns-to-the-dark-side-in/#c5444 is right on the money though, bet should've been a tossup [01:41]
assbot BitBet - Luke Skywalker Turns To The Dark Side In Episode VII :: 1.61 B (81%) on Yes, 0.37 B (19%) on No | closed 2 weeks 6 days ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmUAwY ) [01:41]
adlai i'd leave my nickels in the tipjar but it does seem awfully full [01:42]
kakobrekla asciilifeform got anything handy? [01:42]
kakobrekla this ? http://dpaste.com/25MGHBZ.txt [01:43]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmUFRp ) [01:43]
asciilifeform or this [01:44]
adlai lol, shills cann't even spell D-E-R-P correctly... https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3yeww0/coinbas_was_removed_from_bitcoinorg_wallet_page/ [01:44]
assbot Coinbas was removed from bitcoin.org wallet page! : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1QVCOzm ) [01:44]
asciilifeform but most particularly this http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000187.html [01:44]
assbot [BTC-dev] AWS Banhammer ... ( http://bit.ly/1OdZBUM ) [01:44]
adlai and this is worth almost a year-day of upboats [01:44]
kakobrekla gpg: Signature made Sat 26 Dec 2015 12:37:34 AM UTC using RSA key ID 01ABFFC7 [01:45]
kakobrekla gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found [01:45]
kakobrekla ... [01:45]
asciilifeform l0lwut [01:45]
* adlai shoots, he scores! he sweeps, he snores [01:45]
asciilifeform jurov's box found it... [01:45]
kakobrekla could be a different gpg version [01:46]
kakobrekla and mine is 'buggy'? [01:46]
kakobrekla v1.4.12 ftr [01:47]
asciilifeform i'd like to know what's on jurov's box [01:48]
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kakobrekla !down asciilifeform [01:49]
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kakobrekla until further notice. [01:49]
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kakobrekla so you wont get a cold riding outside the train. [01:51]
asciilifeform ty kakobrekla [01:53]
asciilifeform sadly i gotta go to bed, starting at new uranium mine tomorrow, catching the old-fashioned train at sunrise. [01:54]
* asciilifeform bbl [01:54]
kakobrekla good luck [01:54]
asciilifeform ty. i will get to the bottom of this crud when i get back. [01:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00051404 = 14.0333 BTC [+] {2} [02:00]
adlai ;;later tell ben_vulpes: "Teaching people to look at the world as a malleable thing is one of the foundations of socialist brainrot" << so satoshi was a communist now too? and get a comment section already willya, it's blogging 101 [02:14]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:14]
ben_vulpes individuals may on occasion change the world of their own accord, but teaching the normie that such is within his grasp is the height of stupid [02:16]
* adlai is talking about the jim crow tardation [02:16]
adlai if a meme is to be killed, it's to be done right, and anybody meming "jim crow hurr durr" doesn't actually understand what bitcoin's good for [02:17]
adlai there's a connection here, hamevin yavin [02:17]
adlai satoshi says, "the world is malleable and so is bitcoin!" sipa says "maybe not", so we shoot him before he starts giving any really dangerous ideas [02:18]
adlai idiots. [02:18]
adlai !down adlai [02:18]
* assbot has kicked adlai from #bitcoin-assets (Bye.) [02:18]
ben_vulpes is this jim crow thing a thread i missed? [02:18]
BingoBoingo the seg wit stuff [02:30]
ben_vulpes ah clever [02:34]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell adlai that post predated my ever hearing about segwit [02:36]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:36]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: i only know what those fuckwits are up to because of you [02:39]
BingoBoingo Well I guess nao I have to qntra an explainer [02:39]
ben_vulpes i got the hazy notion that someone wanted to implement something that involved...not validating the whole blockchain. tuned out. [02:40]
ben_vulpes also, outside my wot. watch me give zero fuxx. [02:40]
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ben_vulpes ~up amiller [02:41]
ben_vulpes !up amiller [02:41]
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ben_vulpes hyu [02:41]
ben_vulpes !gup Guest1038 [02:41]
ben_vulpes good grief [02:41]
ben_vulpes !up Guest1038 [02:41]
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BingoBoingo i got the hazy notion that someone wanted to implement something that involved...not validating the whole blockchain. tuned out. << Appears to be new soft phork tx type. details aren't clear to me yet [02:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00050917 = 4.5316 BTC [-] [02:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.0005089 = 18.7275 BTC [-] {2} [02:59]
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ben_vulpes does anyone know of any decent sociopolitical histories of tls/ssl? [03:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107100 @ 0.00051382 = 55.0301 BTC [+] {3} [03:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00051417 = 13.2142 BTC [+] {2} [03:20]
mats feeling some regret about this eth bet [03:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00051464 = 14.2813 BTC [+] [03:28]
ben_vulpes > regret [03:29]
ben_vulpes > bet [03:29]
ben_vulpes > feel [03:29]
ben_vulpes what's the story? [03:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55001 @ 0.00051499 = 28.325 BTC [+] {2} [03:32]
mats the not-usg remora collective that bought into eth ipo is broke as fuck and are incapable of triggering share dump despite sizable payout from bitbet for this service [03:33]
mats there goes ~4btc [03:34]
ben_vulpes share dump? the sale that would drive the price down to bet-throwing levels? [03:41]
ben_vulpes didja take the bitcoin side of the ebt? [03:41]
fluffypony mats: didn't you have a small hedge against your bet? [03:43]
ben_vulpes A FLUFFYPONY [03:45]
fluffypony A CASCADIAN HAXXER [03:45]
ben_vulpes L33T HAXX0R [03:46]
fluffypony so l33t his password is 1337 [03:46]
* ben_vulpes wonders if anyone got the implicit self-deprecatory 'hack' joke [03:46]
BingoBoingo You aren't a complete hack ben_vulpes, just a bit careless with your emacs buffers. [03:49]
ben_vulpes /quit [03:49]
fluffypony /ragequit [03:50]
BingoBoingo You make up for that though by being a jew who knows better than to blow all of the money on the smaller person's preschool. [03:50]
* trinque went to the overly expensive preschool in question [03:50]
trinque only memory of it was some kid putting hair clips all along his tongue [03:51]
trinque I guess he was expressing himself [03:51]
fluffypony if it's not Monte-sorry it's not worth talking about [03:52]
mats fluffypony: nope [03:52]
mircea_popescu adlai> satoshi says, "the world is malleable and so is bitcoin!" sipa says "maybe not", so we shoot him before he starts giving any really dangerous ideas << you really should lay off the sauce. [03:52]
mats ben_vulpes: yes, i took btc side [03:52]
mircea_popescu does anyone know of any decent sociopolitical histories of tls/ssl? << "no" or "only shitty ones" depending on your clearance. [03:53]
ben_vulpes the curricula are purchaseable for like 500 dollars [03:54]
ben_vulpes i have yet to meet a teacher i'd entrust the whole of any educational program to outside my wot [03:55]
ben_vulpes perhaps a slice here or there, like latin or ballroom dancing [03:55]
ben_vulpes but never fucking ever will i readily consent to stick my offspring in a daycare for an amount of attention outside of my control to be paid to them. [03:56]
mircea_popescu oh i thought you were contemplating a mistress. [03:58]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: narrative scrolling through my head is "tbl made htmlz, smart ppl thot waz cool, rest of internet piled on, shartups demanded cc processing over webz, tls/ssl became defacto" [03:58]
mircea_popescu here's the thing : not your call to make. by the time they need or can benefit from that sort of thing, they're old enough to pick their own/ [03:58]
ben_vulpes tutoring is decent work for a mistress, neh? [03:59]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes that's actually pretty accurate. except smart ppl did not think it was cool. "smart" people had visions of a wikipedia-bayesian world. [03:59]
mircea_popescu amusingly enough, the facts fell in, but their interpretation of "what it'll be like"... heh heh [03:59]
ben_vulpes well i did think about it for a few weeks before bringing it up. 'was cool' is a simplification of the whole 'semantic web' trip. [04:00]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: old enough to pick, old enough also to have the wot to select from? [04:00]
mircea_popescu nah, it's not even that. it's ... you know how the sort of fucktard that writes sf and like... lives off juices and shit [we're talking 70s here] always represents "the future" with these robed floating aliens of "twu ewolwed" ? [04:01]
mircea_popescu well... they figured that's it. [04:01]
mircea_popescu ironically... it did bring them the coveted fucking star trek touch panels [04:01]
mircea_popescu ie, all the factual bits DID fall into place. [04:01]
ben_vulpes heh [04:01]
ben_vulpes but on the other thread, from what pool are 'they' to 'pick their own'? must i not provide? [04:03]
mircea_popescu there is no pool. [04:03]
mircea_popescu if they're worth a shit they'll find and if not, a well. most stuff developing in an uterus is meant to abort sooner or later anyway. [04:04]
BingoBoingo but on the other thread, from what pool are 'they' to 'pick their own'? must i not provide? << The pool that knows wheeties actually isn't the breakfast of champion, because that is two scoops of whey and a scoop of dry instant coffee in an shaker. [04:04]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: you are going to get too swole [04:05]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Well, I'm still cutting to the point where I can start getting swole without also getting fat at the same time. [04:05]
ben_vulpes > cutting [04:05]
ben_vulpes IT BEGINS [04:05]
mircea_popescu lol [04:06]
BingoBoingo Well, how else to you handle alcoholic fatty liver than by... chasing the fat out of the liver? [04:06]
* BingoBoingo has already lost a substantial amount of liver weight since the sobriety experiment began as measured by poking the upper right quadrant of my abdomen and contemplating the size of the organ I just pissed off. [04:16]
mircea_popescu wouldja stop picking at scabs. [04:20]
BingoBoingo You're right. Gotta leave the scabs alone so they can keep undercutting lazy union parasites on the labor market. [04:21]
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adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355221 << but not all? [04:31]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 06:59:44; mircea_popescu: if they're worth a shit they'll find and if not, a well. most stuff developing in an uterus is meant to abort sooner or later anyway. [04:31]
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adlai from the not-so-lulz mines: https://chrispacia.wordpress.com/2015/12/23/lightning-network-skepticism/ [04:33]
assbot Lightning Network Skepticism | Escape Velocity ... ( http://bit.ly/1MCBDwZ ) [04:33]
adlai too bad you can't short vaporware that hasn't even boiled yet [04:33]
adlai "> If the lightning network ends up sucking (let???s hope it doesn???t), then so will bitcoin as we will have no choice but to use it by that point. // Or finally raise the blocksize" who'da guessed, comments better than the article itself [04:34]
adlai also who on earth beatifies their comment troll alts [04:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48594 @ 0.00050752 = 24.6624 BTC [-] {3} [05:04]
BingoBoingo !up ryan-c [05:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.0005062 = 8.3017 BTC [-] [05:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20406 @ 0.00050503 = 10.3056 BTC [-] [05:08]
adlai i'm sorry but this is totally on-topic. /r/btc has "bitcoin startup entrepeneur" flair [05:25]
adlai context, /r/bitcoin introduced "bitcoin expert" flair at one point, and endless fests were shat over who gets it and who loses [05:26]
fluffypony omg I'm going to apply for that [05:30]
fluffypony right after I file to be recognised as a "thought leader" [05:31]
adlai "they say a lot of things about whoring being the oldest profession, but somebody had to pay, so Finance was First." - eden shochat, local vc chump pumper. has a good talk i'd link but nobody else medaber ivrit... [05:34]
adlai "i love regulation, because it causes fat, and then you slim it off and make bank" (rough translation parahrpase) [05:35]
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adlai "private blockchains are as mortal as CEOs" (also rough translaying) [05:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30470 @ 0.00050578 = 15.4111 BTC [+] {3} [05:37]
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BingoBoingo !up airgapped [05:48]
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adlai can't you let the man !up himself? some cultures consider it rude to help [05:52]
adlai even the airgapped deserve some practice driving the cryptotron [05:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37322 @ 0.00051386 = 19.1783 BTC [+] {3} [05:54]
adlai !gettrust STRML_ [05:58]
assbot STRML_ is not registered in WoT. [05:58]
adlai !gettrust STRML [05:58]
assbot STRML is not registered in WoT. [05:58]
adlai ;;gettrust STRML [05:59]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user adlai to user STRML: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=adlai&dest=STRML | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=STRML | Rated since: never [05:59]
adlai ;;rated STRML [06:00]
gribble You rated user STRML on Mon Dec 28 03:56:10 2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: epsilon risked, nothing gained (nothing lost). [06:00]
* adlai figures he's got to skin the fiat cat someday [06:01]
adlai at least STRML's casino doesn't touch the stuff, not even give it out for free if you keep hitting [06:01]
adlai for such a long lurker he does do a terrible job at it. wake up, sam! your elbow should be blue and purple by now, neh? [06:03]
* adlai realizes maybe if he wants people to listen to him, he should speak meat or blockchain at them rather than #b-a :( [06:04]
adlai "you are doing that too much. try again in 49 seconds." jesus christ marie it's a fucking IP address [06:06]
adlai only on /r/btc: "Cobra edits Bitcoin.org about page to remove Sirius from owner's list" [06:06]
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adlai who are these people even smoking? did they sip the brown acid? [06:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10526 @ 0.0005041 = 5.3062 BTC [-] {2} [06:07]
adlai at least the leddit captions that with a real cobra [06:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20590 @ 0.00050378 = 10.3728 BTC [-] [06:24]
BingoBoingo So who's online that might be up for spotting me a proofreading? [06:36]
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mats am here [06:59]
BingoBoingo Ah adlai's on it, but I'll get you the preview too [07:00]
adlai ah mats, welcome back to assland [07:06]
mats been lurking [07:09]
punkman good day http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/19th-century-album-of-ottoman-fashion/ [07:29]
assbot 19th-Century Album of Ottoman Fashion | The Public Domain Review ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbOuv9 ) [07:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00050198 = 4.568 BTC [-] {2} [07:31]
punkman https://media.ccc.de/b/congress/2015 [07:36]
assbot C3TV - [07:36]
adlai ahaha i love this guy, "it takes twelve years, circa six governments in the state of israel" [07:45]
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adlai i'd link him but he has the word "maidsafe" on his slides but says "failed" in hebrew,people might ge tthe wrong message [07:48]
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mats https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/a-year-of-taliban-gains-shows-that-we-havent-delivered-top-afghan-official-says/2015/12/27/172213e8-9cfb-11e5-9ad2-568d814bbf3b_story.html [07:51]
assbot A year of Taliban gains shows that ‘we haven’t delivered,’ top Afghan official says - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbPMpP ) [07:51]
adlai he does fall for the fallacy of ascribing relevance to bubble inflation velocity in a post-fiat-escape-hatch market [07:51]
punkman https://media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7352-towards_reasonably_trustworthy_x86_laptops << poor transcript follows: "I used to think we could sandbox ME with VT-d, unfortunately it turned out this doesn't work, which brought me to the sad conclusion that perhaps if we look at the Intel x86 platform, the war is lost. It truly is hopeless, even if ME didn't exist. It bothers me since I spent the last 5 years [07:52]
punkman on my Qubes project which turns out to be meaningless." [07:52]
assbot C3TV - [07:52]
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punkman then she turns around, "oh we must change the game", "state considered harmful", "do you want my trusted stick?" [07:53]
* adlai tl;dr's his guerrilla transcription: "would-be entrepeneurs, don't waste your time building companies. fuck shit up and send me the datapix, maybe i'll like them and buy some more" [07:55]
punkman who's that? [07:56]
adlai https://youtu.be/xTmZW9b0gxw?t=1h3m37s [07:57]
assbot ‫כנס ביטקוין 2015 - חלק א'‬‎ - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vm8i0t ) [07:57]
adlai i mean fuck, it's even got a leet checksum [07:57]
* adlai rests his case, and weary brain. maybe tomorrow it'll piss again. [07:58]
adlai !down adlai [07:58]
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punkman !s tlsnotary [08:01]
assbot 5 results for 'tlsnotary' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tlsnotary [08:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11785 @ 0.00050377 = 5.9369 BTC [+] {2} [08:11]
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deedbot- [Qntra] The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream - http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-false-dilemma-of-xt-versus-blockstream/ [08:34]
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punkman not bad BB [08:38]
BingoBoingo thank you punkman [08:39]
punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WkLtJjONqs [08:46]
assbot The Empire Files: Ralph Nader & Abby Martin on the Corporate Elections - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1YMm4K7 ) [08:46]
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BingoBoingo In other news, SUCK IT CALIFORNIA http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/emergency-declared-as-rain-keeps-falling-concern-turning-to-rising/article_592378ee-58c5-58bf-844f-7192031de91f.html [09:14]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1YMq8tP ) [09:14]
BingoBoingo "On Sunday afternoon, as rain continued to pummel much of the St. Louis region, 2015 officially became the wettest year on record. It came amid reports of widespread flooding, a plea by officials in West Alton to evacuate and the closure of Interstate 70 through the heart of St. Charles County. And with rain continuing Monday, river levels throughout the region are expected to hit near-record crests by New Year’s Eve." [09:15]
BingoBoingo Actual flood season usually doesn't start until April, or at least March [09:15]
BingoBoingo "Mississippi river levels at Alton are expected to reach nearly 39 feet by Thursday, only 3.7 feet lower than the 1993 record. In St. Louis, the water is expected to crest just shy of 45 feet, which would rank only behind the 49.6 feet recorded during the flood of ’93." [09:16]
BingoBoingo "Down river, the Mississippi was forecast to reach or surpass the 1993 record of 49.74 at Chester, Ill., on Friday. That level would impact Menard Correctional Center and comes within inches of the top of the levee protecting St. Genevieve, Mo." [09:17]
BingoBoingo All of this water and fucking California can have none of it. [09:17]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [09:19]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 426.2, vol: 6516.68988212 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 424.596, vol: 5478.27021 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 424.64, vol: 24132.59731712 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 0.118 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 425.5264, vol: 69354.93620000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 428.98, vol: 85.24159845 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 432.93549, vol: 22.00506 | Volume-weighted last average: 425.321439986 [09:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00050829 = 16.062 BTC [+] {3} [09:20]
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mircea_popescu for the record, ottoman fashion's pretty cool. they invented a lot of things above and beyond the ottoman [09:57]
mircea_popescu (that very useful piece of furniture for anyone that keeps cocksuckers in the house) [09:57]
mircea_popescu such as you know, fucking underwear. [09:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00050695 = 9.0237 BTC [-] {2} [10:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00050841 = 5.7705 BTC [+] {2} [10:43]
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punkman !up junseth [10:49]
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junseth hey everyone. Just popping in to see what the scum of the earth is up to ;P [10:50]
BingoBoingo Oh, a little bit of everything. Picking fights with XT and blockstream at the same time [10:50]
junseth God the XT-ers [10:50]
junseth At this point, that debate is like trying to tell a Christian evolution is real. [10:50]
junseth "Why, don't you want our opinion?" [10:51]
BingoBoingo also see http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-false-dilemma-of-xt-versus-blockstream/ [10:52]
assbot The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OgP1ME ) [10:52]
junseth Haha, nice. Gotta say, the thing i like about bitcoin-assets is that whether or not I agree with ya'll, you keep shit weird. [10:53]
junseth This is good I'm kin dof fed up with the people who didn't care about block size 5 months ago, and then Gavin told them to care, and now they care. [10:54]
BingoBoingo Seriously. But on the other hand can't let blockstream get an ego and think they can Gavin themselves. [10:55]
junseth Sounds good to me. Just push Maxwell to bring us fungibility by next Christmas [10:56]
junseth and I'll be squealing like one of Bitcoin's many beautiful transgendered women. :) [10:56]
BingoBoingo lol [10:57]
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BingoBoingo But you definitely can see the positive effect all this drama is having on price, right? [10:58]
junseth I don't care. For those of us who are long termers, a cheap Bitcoin is a good bitcoin [10:59]
BingoBoingo Seriously [11:00]
junseth All right, I'll be back in a few months to make sure that ya'll are still the weirdest enclave in the space. Just doing the prison rounds, wanted to take a count of the inmates. Time to pretend like real life is real life. [11:02]
BingoBoingo Alright [11:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5965 @ 0.00050695 = 3.024 BTC [-] [11:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13685 @ 0.00050482 = 6.9085 BTC [-] [11:16]
BingoBoingo http://www.fyrstikken.com/blog/kazonomics-poses-as-a-rich-and-successful-bitcoin-guru-but-is-in-fact-a-dirt-poor-notorious-criminal-who-just-cant-stay-away-from-trouble [11:28]
assbot Kazonomics - Poses as a rich and successful Bitcoin-Guru but is in fact a dirt poor & notorious criminal who just can´t stay away from trouble. - Welcome to Fyrstikken ... ( http://bit.ly/1me9MON ) [11:28]
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mod6 ;;bc,stats [12:01]
gribble Current Blocks: 390659 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 444 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 15 hours, 25 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [12:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41628 @ 0.00050403 = 20.9818 BTC [-] {2} [12:02]
deedbot- [Ossasepia] Euloran Cookbook V1.2 - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/12/28/euloran-cookbook-v1-2/ [12:26]
BingoBoingo Oh hai, look where qntra made it again: https://archive.is/RT7C2 https://archive.is/dmNZC [12:31]
assbot Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jc6BkK ) [12:31]
assbot The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jc6DsC ) [12:31]
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shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355349 <<< This is what *should* be at top of page, instead of all the other "censorship!" nonsense. [12:33]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 15:26:46; BingoBoingo: Oh hai, look where qntra made it again: https://archive.is/RT7C2 https://archive.is/dmNZC [12:33]
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BingoBoingo Butt in other lulz https://archive.is/WOHB9 [12:34]
assbot Roger Ver rallies around Coinbase. What could possibly go wrong this time around? I mean the last time Ver vouched for someone, new captains of industry were created right? : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1knNubr ) [12:34]
BingoBoingo shinohai: It's making it there [12:34]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $1,000 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1234/bitcoin-to-top-1-000-before-jul-2016/#b21 [12:40]
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BingoBoingo !up joshbuddy [12:52]
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shinohai https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3yiumz/the_false_dilemma_of_xt_versus_blockstream/cydulxc <<< kek [12:52]
assbot BlockchainOfFools comments on The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream ... ( http://bit.ly/1knQl4n ) [12:52]
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ben_vulpes Softforks that explicitly create an incentive for their own revocation create an extraordinary moral hazard. << rather [12:54]
ben_vulpes rather nice qntra, BingoBoingo [12:54]
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BingoBoingo ty ben_vulpes [12:54]
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pete_dushenski shinohai: pff. b-a doesn't rubber stamp, we brand with iron directly on skin. [12:55]
ben_vulpes foreskins! [12:56]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell asciilifeform how are the new minez? [12:56]
gribble The operation succeeded. [12:56]
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pete_dushenski http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/28/only-one-global-currency-trounced-the-dollar-this-year.html [12:58]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1knRaKg ) [12:58]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: way to break in past the reddit censors. wd. [12:59]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: I actually didn't submit it to reddit. [12:59]
pete_dushenski oh ? [12:59]
BingoBoingo This is "organic" social media manure accumulating [12:59]
BingoBoingo I don't have a current reddit account "broken in" enough to chance on shitting qntra into reddit. Gotta farm some more "wheymens" [13:01]
pete_dushenski that's what fiverr's for [13:01]
pete_dushenski which i'm sure qntra could find in its budget [13:02]
BingoBoingo What budget? Everything goes into servers, coffee, or HODL. [13:03]
pete_dushenski you could always reallocate some of those saved boozebezzlars [13:04]
BingoBoingo Those go to coffee and HODL [13:05]
pete_dushenski "Saudi Arabia, its finances hit by low oil prices, announced plans to shrink a record state budget deficit with spending cuts and a drive to raise revenues from sources other than oil. The government of the world's top oil exporter ran a deficit of 367 billion riyals ($97.9 billion) in 2015, the Council of Economic and Development Affairs said on Monday." << i wouldn't be surprised if we saw a regime change in t [13:06]
pete_dushenski he next 12 months. this is going to be a rough ride for abdullah's stand-ins. [13:06]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: ya, that's actually a smarter use of funds [13:07]
BingoBoingo Also some of the saved boozelars have gone into the gas tank, because some days there isn't a storytime club meeting in reasonable walking distance. [13:09]
shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355365 <<< correct answer [13:09]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 15:51:47; ben_vulpes: foreskins! [13:09]
BingoBoingo lol throckmorton's sign https://archive.is/oD4nq [13:11]
assbot throckmortonsign comments on The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream ... ( http://bit.ly/1knTb9i ) [13:11]
BingoBoingo ;;google throckmorton's sign [13:13]
gribble Throckmorton's sign | Radiology Reference Article | Radiopaedia.org: ; John Thomas sign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Throckmorton's sign - Whonamedit - dictionary of medical eponyms: [13:13]
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pete_dushenski tried watching some jeremy piven show on netflix last night where he plays an american entrepreneur in london who starts his own department store circa 1909 and the only way i could stand it was with the volume off. the set design is the ~only~ redeeming quality of that show. [13:13]
pete_dushenski anyways, watch at your own risk, but definitely not recommended viewing. [13:13]
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pete_dushenski though the few bits about jobs being hard to come by, and only the handsomest men and prettiest women being able to snag jobs, and the employers turning applicants away because they have dirty fingernails was kinda neat, if only because that's the way the world works outside of the narrow historical confines of "we print the bezzlars"-istan. [13:16]
pete_dushenski mr. selfridge << the show in question [13:18]
pete_dushenski and... apparently the show is 3 years old and already on its fourth season. fancy that. [13:19]
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pete_dushenski http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2015/12/climate_schlock.html << apt title [13:28]
assbot Climate Schlock, David Henderson | EconLog | Library of Economics and Liberty ... ( http://bit.ly/22uPfGg ) [13:28]
punkman pete_dushenski: the set design is the ~only~ redeeming quality of that show. << isn't that why they call them costume dramas [13:28]
pete_dushenski but then where's the drama ?!!1 [13:29]
punkman maybe piven ate it [13:29]
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pete_dushenski or he gave it away to johnny from entourage [13:29]
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punkman here's a pick for you http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2603596/ [13:30]
assbot The Wrong Mans (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/22uPq4c ) [13:30]
mod6 pete_dushenski: hey, got your msg. thanks for updating your blog. much appreciated. [13:31]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [13:37]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 422.35, vol: 6479.61616555 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 423.499, vol: 6114.4076 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 423.22, vol: 22179.5503971 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 0.118 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 424.266579, vol: 67575.50010000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 428.90974, vol: 107.89201068 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 430.454101889, vol: 27.32749261 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [13:37]
BingoBoingo ;;more [13:37]
gribble 423.8796412 [13:37]
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mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000186.html << re: footnote [2]; jurov, maybe this was the issue I ran into -- i'll have to try this. [13:46]
assbot [BTC-dev] Taming the mempool ... ( http://bit.ly/1NvyaEi ) [13:46]
mod6 Thanks again for posting your report & corresponding patch. Great work. [13:47]
pete_dushenski punkman: the fat one looks awfully familiar but i can't place him. [14:02]
pete_dushenski mod6: np :) [14:02]
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pete_dushenski bbl [14:15]
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ascii_butugychag http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355366 << heavy [14:20]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 15:52:00; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform how are the new minez? [14:20]
ascii_butugychag bbl. [14:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00050384 = 2.1413 BTC [-] [14:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00050343 = 6.5698 BTC [-] {2} [14:29]
mircea_popescu assbot: A year of Taliban gains shows that ‘we haven’t delivered,’ top Afghan official says << loller. [14:30]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355290 << i broadly agree. laptops have no future ; thanks god for that. [14:31]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 10:48:06; punkman: on my Qubes project which turns out to be meaningless." [14:31]
* mircea_popescu never liked the shits. [14:31]
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mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-false-dilemma-of-xt-versus-blockstream/ << check out BingoBoingo! getting quite adept at splitting teh narrative huh ? [14:42]
assbot The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OgP1ME ) [14:42]
mircea_popescu !gettrust junseth [14:46]
assbot junseth is not registered in WoT. [14:46]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355331 << no, actually : the whole charade of muppets, with that despicable bfl shill Luke-Jr front and center, was derping ON AND ON about how gotta keep the blockchain small back when MPEx:S.DICE was the largest economic activity in the whole currency. [14:48]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 13:50:37; junseth: This is good I'm kin dof fed up with the people who didn't care about block size 5 months ago, and then Gavin told them to care, and now they care. [14:48]
mircea_popescu but hey, times achanged. [14:48]
mircea_popescu and somehow nobody's supposed to remember 2013 because reasons. [14:48]
mircea_popescu somehow "hardforking the blockchain to accomodate dust transactions" wasn't a concern, back before hussein bahamas climbed atop mit and started throwing meatballs and chicken nuggets at the rotinculo chorus. [14:49]
mircea_popescu https://archive.is/hAXeL << ahaha what the shit is this. [14:51]
assbot Kazonomics - Poses as a rich and successful Bitcoin-Guru but is in fact a dirt poor & notorious criminal who just can´t stay away from trouble. - Welcome to Fyrstikken ... ( http://bit.ly/1mLkdcD ) [14:51]
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mircea_popescu "These are all public records and there are tons more if you want to dig deeper into the criminal life of Kaseem Sarad Simpson, AKA @Kazonomics on twitter" eh srsly, dude's can't drive and had a falling out with some weisz chick. [15:00]
mircea_popescu hardly a criminal mastermind or anything. [15:00]
mircea_popescu http://www.fyrstikken.com/uploads/6/6/1/3/66137739/9262349_orig.png << there's a DERP fee. [15:02]
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mircea_popescu fancy that. immensely apt. [15:02]
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mircea_popescu "I'm Roger Ver, long-time Roger Ver advocate and investor. Today, I'm at the Roger Ver world headquarters in Saint Kitts and Nevis. I had a nice chat with Roger Ver CEO, Roger Ver, about their current situation. He showed me multiple bank statements, as well as letters from banks, lawyers and Roger Ver. I'm sure that all the current Roger Ver problems at Roger Ver are being caused by the traditional banking system, not [15:06]
mircea_popescu because of a lack of liquidity at Roger Ver. The traditional banking partners that Roger Ver needs to work with are not able to keep up with the demands of the growing Roger Ver economy. The dozens of people that make up the Roger Ver team are hard at work establishing additional banking partners, that eventually will make dealing with Roger Ver easier for all their customers around the world. For now, I hope that eve [15:06]
mircea_popescu ryone will continue working on Roger Ver projects that will help make the world a better place." [15:06]
mircea_popescu lol butts delivered. [15:06]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355361 << quite. all this verbiage about how "oh lalala, if miners stop enforcing X fork they will be excluded" fails to account for the fact that unlike the various PRBs, TRB does NOT actually implement any of the soft forks. so no, they won't be "excluded". nobody will notice they stopped. [15:11]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 15:49:52; ben_vulpes: Softforks that explicitly create an incentive for their own revocation create an extraordinary moral hazard. << rather [15:11]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355375 << speaking of which, BingoBoingo do you want a fiverr account with whatever credit on it ? [15:12]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 15:57:30; pete_dushenski: that's what fiverr's for [15:12]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355381 << there's a huge difference between fully financed deficit (such as sae runs) and fully uncovered deficit, such as the us (or argentina) run. [15:13]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 16:02:02; pete_dushenski: he next 12 months. this is going to be a rough ride for abdullah's stand-ins. [15:13]
mircea_popescu the saudis have a shitton of cash to throw around before they need to notice the hole. [15:13]
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mircea_popescu "Bitcoin-related code written by developers reached 7,000 in December, up from 1,000 bitcoin codes in mid-2013. The number of PayPal-related codes is below 3,000 (based on Github depository references)." [15:35]
mircea_popescu these people are fducking retarded already [15:35]
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mats http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/12/28/us-voter-database-leak/ [15:43]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZxA7W5 ) [15:43]
mats >has uncovered a database sitting on the Web containing various pieces of personal information related to 191 million American citizens registered to vote... [the data] includes names, home addresses, phone numbers, dates of birth, party affiliations, and logs of whether or not they had voted in primary or general elections. [15:45]
mats huhuhu [15:45]
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mats in other news, https://49.media.tumblr.com/a84cd0541073dad3810d2d0f0f6327a7/tumblr_nzoibvdfMJ1qg39ewo1_500.gif [15:46]
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mats punkman: did you read her paper? [15:57]
mats or didja assume 'trusted stick' == 'trusted platform module'? [15:58]
punkman I read [15:58]
mats what problem(s) do you see with this scheme? [16:00]
* mats is on pg15 [16:00]
punkman mats, do you think persistence is the problem? [16:01]
punkman or that we can't even trust own mother [16:01]
mats no [16:01]
mats i can however appreciate some facets of her thing, like being able to trivially inspect device fw [16:03]
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mats mircea_popescu: meaning of sae? [18:01]
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mircea_popescu saudis. [18:08]
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ben_vulpes the number of related codes?! [18:33]
ben_vulpes in what world [18:34]
ben_vulpes i don't [18:34]
ben_vulpes understand [18:34]
ben_vulpes how the world works [18:34]
mats ben_vulpes: context? [18:38]
mats https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/3waa8x/im_bill_pollock_no_starch_press_founder_im_here [18:39]
assbot I'm Bill Pollock, No Starch Press founder. I'm here with some of our authors. Ask us anything! : netsec ... ( http://bit.ly/1NSWCxc ) [18:39]
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mats http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2014#481120 << you referring to https://www.iacr.org/archive/crypto2001/21390001.pdf ? [18:57]
assbot Logged on 05-02-2014 03:50:12; asciilifeform: there is already a hard impossibility proof of turing-complete computation in a homomorphic turd. [18:57]
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mats ben_vulpes: oops. i scrolled up. [19:00]
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ascii_butugychag http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355482 << aha [19:04]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 21:55:43; mats: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2014#481120 << you referring to https://www.iacr.org/archive/crypto2001/21390001.pdf ? [19:04]
mats k just checking [19:04]
ascii_butugychag and lulzily, that's my new job... [19:04]
ascii_butugychag i shit thee not [19:05]
mats yeah, you mentioned it last month [19:07]
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punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355490 << you mean homomorphic turds? [19:26]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 22:02:19; ascii_butugychag: and lulzily, that's my new job... [19:26]
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mats http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=intel-trace-hub-for-linux p interesting, oughta materialize in the next year (still R&D afaik) [20:06]
assbot Intel Trace Hub Support Coming To Linux - Phoronix ... ( http://bit.ly/1OV2LJ9 ) [20:06]
mats can sync with software logging even [20:07]
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BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355447 << Nope, don't have one without credit either [20:47]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 18:10:12; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355375 << speaking of which, BingoBoingo do you want a fiverr account with whatever credit on it ? [20:47]
BingoBoingo Substantial props go to adlai and mats for the proofreading help [20:50]
BingoBoingo Honestly I wouldn't know what to do with a fiverr account [20:52]
punkman all kinds of amusing things [20:53]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355493 << aha. [21:02]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 22:23:53; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355490 << you mean homomorphic turds? [21:02]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355468 << what was this ? [21:03]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 19:01:29; mats: i can however appreciate some facets of her thing, like being able to trivially inspect device fw [21:03]
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punkman asciilifeform: I posted the video and this should be the paper https://github.com/rootkovska/state_harmful/blob/master/state_harmful.md [21:04]
assbot state_harmful/state_harmful.md at master · rootkovska/state_harmful · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tn9f7r ) [21:04]
asciilifeform 'The main principle introduced below is the requirement for the laptop hardware to be stateless, i.e. lacking any persistent storage. This includes it having no firmware-carrying flash memory chips. All the state is to be kept on an external, trusted device. This trusted device is envisioned to be of a small USB stick or SD card form factor.' << batshit lunacy on x86 [21:05]
asciilifeform can't initialize the dram controller, much less usb etc. without a proprietary turd [21:06]
asciilifeform in firmware [21:06]
asciilifeform (loads in cache-as-ram mode on intel/amd) [21:06]
asciilifeform and i ain't watching video. [21:06]
mats https://lwn.net/Articles/669110 [21:06]
assbot Rutkowska: State considered harmful - A proposal for a stateless laptop [LWN.net] ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tn9lft ) [21:06]
mats pdf enclosed [21:06]
mats oh, didn't see punkman's link [21:07]
mats much better. [21:07]
asciilifeform l0l external jack for spi eeprom [21:08]
asciilifeform this is a mega-invention ? [21:08]
asciilifeform i have this right here on this desk. [21:08]
asciilifeform so the basic lie-by-implication baked into this paper, is that the firmware that ships with the box is 'trusted' [21:09]
asciilifeform unless reflashed [21:09]
asciilifeform which is a crock of shit [21:10]
asciilifeform or the sophomoric reduction of attack vectors enabled by intel ME to 'inject malware' [21:10]
asciilifeform (how about good ol' kleptography ? cp planting ? etc. i can think of 101 other items which have nothing to do with 'malware') [21:11]
asciilifeform 'We thus see that, while we cannot fully eliminate the problem of subversion of the host OS security by potentially malicious processor, the construction of the stateless laptop allows us to force the adversary into a very dangerous territory, requiring them to take high risk and also making the attack very complex.' << mno. [21:12]
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asciilifeform 'Admittedly such an approach would not be able to detect sophisticated attacks which replace the original laptop board with identically looking one ... ' << again, this odd presumption that the original ~needs~ to be surreptitiously replaced [21:15]
asciilifeform what part of pwned-at-the-factory is unclear ? [21:15]
* asciilifeform can't be bothered to read any more of the claptrap [21:16]
asciilifeform this is not even turd-polishing. it is turd-washing [21:19]
asciilifeform with the specific chumpatronic purpose of distracting from the nature of the turd thereby. [21:19]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355498 << in-band debugging sucks [21:23]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 23:04:54; mats: can sync with software logging even [21:23]
asciilifeform (if there is ANY POSSIBLE means for the debuggee to sense the fact of debugging - in band.) [21:23]
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asciilifeform ;;later tell jurov what version of gpg is used in turdatron? kakobrekla's chokes on my updated key, but turdatron - happily eats [21:25]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:25]
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punkman asciilifeform can't be bothered to read any more of the claptrap << aww you missed the part where the stick does wifi and tor [21:30]
asciilifeform ugh [21:30]
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BingoBoingo related https://encyclopediadramatica.se/ETD [21:46]
assbot eTD - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( http://bit.ly/1NT8fUT ) [21:46]
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thestringpuller Watching Shark Tank - D00ds want to make a security company to compete with lastpass. Mark Cuban asks them "Do you have a crypto background?" "Uh we're not techies" "I'm out". [21:58]
BingoBoingo Could still make a security company if they had some welding background [21:59]
BingoBoingo http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/haverhill-hoax-suspects-court-baby-thrown-bridge-kristine-holly-fowler/?cid=facebook_WBZ_|_CBS_Boston [22:08]
assbot Baby Off Bridge Hoax Cost Haverhill $50K « CBS Boston ... ( http://bit.ly/1NT9rHV ) [22:08]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355510 << the one thing i did was, get a buncha students put 100s of printed posters of http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/ in a few dozen campuses throughout the us and canada. [22:31]
assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 23:51:07; punkman: all kinds of amusing things [22:31]
assbot The Gentlemen Prefer CoEds Club on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JxR3lb ) [22:31]
mircea_popescu as per nubbins rules of engagement, this has resulted in no collegiate sluts doing their job. [22:32]
mircea_popescu STRICTLY BECAUSE of the cheap quality of the printing, mind you. [22:32]
mircea_popescu not because they suck at doing what they're naturally supposed to do. [22:32]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-12-2015#1355518 <<< this didn't even work on a 286. [22:33]
assbot Logged on 29-12-2015 00:03:37; asciilifeform: 'The main principle introduced below is the requirement for the laptop hardware to be stateless, i.e. lacking any persistent storage. This includes it having no firmware-carrying flash memory chips. All the state is to be kept on an external, trusted device. This trusted device is envisioned to be of a small USB stick or SD card form factor.' << batshit lunacy on x86 [22:33]
asciilifeform my 386 had no flashables. but that wasn't the point. [22:40]
BingoBoingo 3 points, 36 comments https://archive.is/ZL7zt [22:40]
assbot The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1UeHk9X ) [22:40]
mircea_popescu certainly becoming a force. [22:43]
* BingoBoingo just created exuse to drop latest archive snapshot of derp here, Reddit never changes [22:44]
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thestringpuller BingoBoingo: just like war. [22:45]
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ben_vulpes https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/12/28/federal-judge-drinking-tea-shopping-at-a-gardening-store-is-probable-cause-for-a-swat-raid-on-your-home/ [23:14]
assbot Federal judge: Drinking tea, shopping at a gardening store is probable cause for a SWAT raid on your home - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfhiJ8 ) [23:14]
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mircea_popescu "He was told to lie on the floor. " <<< how about "Fuck you" ? [23:18]
mircea_popescu what is this bullshit. [23:18]
BingoBoingo SWAT officers tend to "accidentally" discharge their weapons with a high rate of frequency. It's a military problem without easy answers if you get to that point. [23:22]
mircea_popescu yeah, i suppose by the time there's armed dudes at your door liberal supression fire's the only way to go. [23:24]
BingoBoingo Once they're inside prolly just gotta be polite enough to hopefully not get accidentallied in order to try to fuck them back later. [23:25]
mircea_popescu plenty cheeky, the bastards. [23:28]
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ben_vulpes if you're not Living In Fear (tm) you're not Living American (tm)! [23:30]
mircea_popescu heh [23:31]
mircea_popescu ever more soviet, soviet. [23:31]
ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1SluSC5JtE [23:32]
assbot We Hates It Forever - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfjlgu ) [23:32]
BingoBoingo "As far as what I see, according to the candidates that are out there now, Republicans and Democrats, I think he’s head and shoulders right now above the rest. I don’t agree with everything he says, he speaks a little more, actually he speaks a little more, a lot more radically than I talk. And I think that’s a positive and negative." -David Duke [23:32]
ben_vulpes https://youtu.be/YMJ8JGfuCAw?t=38 [23:33]
assbot I hate sunshine - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfjkZS ) [23:33]
mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3yklrd/accidentally_sent_btc_to_bitmixer_donation/ << lmao. "possibility of scam" = i sent bitcoin to donation address why am i not getting it back ?!?!?! [23:38]
assbot Accidentally sent BTC to Bitmixer donation address but no refund : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfjW1N ) [23:38]
thestringpuller https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ygpom/its_time_to_decentralize_bitcoin_development/cydk5q1 << Luke-Jr states "This is not consensus-compatible with the Bitcoin network." [23:39]
thestringpuller !gettrust Luke-Jr [23:39]
assbot Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Luke-Jr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 4 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=thestringpuller&to=Luke-Jr | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Luke-Jr/ [23:39]
thestringpuller well that's settled. [23:39]
mircea_popescu http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/27/business/dealbook/the-unsung-tax-agent-who-put-a-face-on-the-silk-road.html?_r=0 <<< ahaha check it out, the cover-up story is shaping up! it wasn't the usg using the holes in tor to try and steal some bitcoin, after which their agents stole most of it from them in turn. oh, no! it's a heroic guy that bla bla bla, just like in thye old soviet movies! [23:40]
assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfk94Z ) [23:40]
ben_vulpes lol who are future_prophecy and veqtrus [23:40]
mircea_popescu how fucktarded are these people ? [23:40]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=26-12-2015#1353979 [23:40]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 15:26:10; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353876 << so cheap is the octopus ink, but so laughably transparent - this idiocy is supposed to make folks forget about the tor 0day ? [23:40]
mircea_popescu aha [23:40]
mircea_popescu new article tho, note the 27th [23:40]
mircea_popescu uh. [23:40]
mircea_popescu what the fuck happened here. [23:41]
asciilifeform good q [23:41]
mircea_popescu "By NATHANIEL POPPERDEC. 25, 2015" [23:41]
mircea_popescu but the url takes a 27 not a 25. [23:41]
asciilifeform does archive.is diff ? [23:41]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes: they must lurk in the channel. [23:42]
ben_vulpes come out come out wherever you are [23:43]
asciilifeform 'Last week, U.S. District Court Judge John W. Lungstrum dismissed every one of the Hartes’s claims. Harte found that sending a SWAT team into a home first thing in the morning based on no more than a positive field test and spotting a suspect at a gardening store was not a violation of the Fourth Amendment. He found that the police had probable cause for the search, and that the way the search was conducted did not constitut [23:44]
asciilifeform e excessive force. He found that the Hartes had not been defamed by the raid or by the publicity surrounding it. He also ruled that the police were under no obligation to know that drug testing field kits are inaccurate, nor were they obligated to wait for the more accurate lab tests before conducting the SWAT raid. The only way they’d have a claim would be if they could show that the police lied about the results, deliberat [23:44]
asciilifeform ely manipulated the tests or showed a reckless disregard for the truth — and he ruled that the Hartes had failed to do so.' << lulz [23:44]
BingoBoingo !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.Luke-Jr.-2:89749f404fa5d809cb02d55e0b7bc157a303274ee9730cfc23f6122edb3b8858 [23:44]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for Luke-Jr from -1 to -2 with note: Shilled for BFL scam, probably a secret Papist, why is he still around? [23:44]
asciilifeform 'The Hartes are also a white, financially sound couple who both happened to have worked for the CIA.' << extra-lulz [23:44]
BingoBoingo http://bangshift.com/bangshiftxl/inexperienced-undereducated-truck-driver-destroys-indiana-bridge-built-in-1880/ [23:51]
assbot BangShift.com Indiana Bridge ... ( http://bit.ly/1mflfOf ) [23:51]
BingoBoingo "Ms. Lambright was aware of the iron bridge stating she had driven on it several times in her personal vehicle and was also aware of the posted signage “no semis, weight limit of 6 tons”. When asked by Paoli Police why she continued through the bridge knowing the weight limit was only 6 tons she admitted to not knowing how many pounds that was." [23:51]
* justanot1eruser is now known as justanotheruser [23:51]
BingoBoingo pictures of wreck are pretty lulzy [23:51]
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