Forum logs for 26 Jan 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

truffles	Apocalyptic i need redemption	[00:01]
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Apocalyptic	what kind of redemption truffles ?	[00:02]
truffles	to ko u :D	[00:02]
truffles	game?	[00:02]
benkay	sousveillance plus bitcoin to ruin the tyrant's operatives starting in 2014: in	[00:03]
benkay	http://ipvm.com/updates/2416	[00:04]
ozbot	Framed For Selling Crack, Surveillance Video Helps Him Sue Police	[00:04]
truffles	haha	[00:04]
truffles	did they sprinkle some crack on him	[00:04]
Apocalyptic	k truffles	[00:05]
asciilifeform	benkay: picture, how many similar cases, where the video was successfully destroyed.	[00:06]
Apocalyptic	truffles, i'm waiting	[00:07]
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asciilifeform	there is, or at some point, will be, a market for a video gizmo that streams public-key-enciphered stream to a box in a non-u.s. jurisdiction.	[00:08]
asciilifeform	or for the truly loaded and profligate: to the blockchain...	[00:09]
asciilifeform	let the bastards eat shit.	[00:09]
benkay	hear hear	[00:11]
asciilifeform	call it 'fair witness' (for aficionados of Heinlein)	[00:11]
asciilifeform	since it would probably be banned anyway,	[00:12]
asciilifeform	might as well add some features	[00:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.003095 = 2.3213 BTC [-]	[00:12]
asciilifeform	like pumping as many watts of broadcast as possible over all digital TV channels, if the panic button is pressed	[00:12]
asciilifeform	and over channels used by wireless cameras of all types,	[00:12]
asciilifeform	that might be hooked to recorders in the area.	[00:12]
benkay	mhm	[00:13]
asciilifeform	you can safely presume that the polize will 1) confiscate everything physically present and 2) jam common communication channels	[00:13]
asciilifeform	(2) is SOP in major u.s. police raids already, by some accounts.	[00:14]
benkay	so an sdr to find open bands and subsequently pump boatloads of juice over them	[00:14]
asciilifeform	so if your camera writes to a physical device, you're at their mercy	[00:14]
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benkay	for a consumer system designed to go in cars a la russian dash cams wifi and cell would be sufficient	[00:15]
benkay	that'd lead to jamming on every car-stop	[00:16]
benkay	hilarious	[00:16]
asciilifeform	also does you no good if the disk on the other end of the connection is found.	[00:16]
asciilifeform	and dealt with	[00:16]
asciilifeform	and, naturally, the kangaroo court might convict you anyway. and, depending on who you are, they might not even bother with a court.	[00:17]
asciilifeform	russian dash cams are a pill against insurance fraud artists, not police	[00:19]
asciilifeform	so different requirements apply.	[00:19]
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benkay	"a la"	[00:19]
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benkay	Fair Witness also comes with 1 gb pre-paid storage and relay to endpoint of your choice from the secret NSA data center	[00:20]
asciilifeform	they simply write to a flash card	[00:20]
truffles	:)	[00:22]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00100502 = 3.1156 BTC [-]	[00:22]
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asciilifeform	since we're philosophizing, ideal version of this concept would be a p2p gadget	[00:23]
asciilifeform	transmits and receives both	[00:23]
asciilifeform	you throw the switch, it broadcasts the buffer contents to any others within 'earshot.' who then store it.	[00:23]
asciilifeform	also great for exhibitionists.	[00:24]
asciilifeform	(and presumably their 'symbiotic' voyeurs)	[00:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0031 = 3.1 BTC [+]	[00:25]
asciilifeform	arguably vulnerable to DDOS by the gestapo, however, unless each unit comes with unique key and maintains a table of 'known friendly' ones.	[00:25]
googBus_	those durn nsagestapo--and so well funded!	[00:28]
asciilifeform	'for every smart arse, there's a correctly-threaded cock.' (rus. saying)	[00:29]
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punkman	asciilifeform: maybe you can pay for upload space in advance at your local Emergency Data Network	[00:29]
googBus_	gd as a tooth in the nose--other ru.saying ;)	[00:29]
googBus_	it's interesting that amazon both has a $600 million USD cloud contract with the agency; and amazon's titular head has bought the washington post	[00:30]
googBus_	keep an eye on all your assets as they say	[00:30]
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asciilifeform	there is no cloud; only other people's disks.	[00:31]
jurov	asciilifeform: don't ruin my illusions	[00:32]
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jurov	i thought my bits are stored in ionosphere	[00:33]
jurov	:(	[00:33]
googBus_	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/norman-solomon/the-cia-amazon-bezos-and_b_4559317.html	[00:33]
ozbot	The CIA, Amazon, Bezos and the Washington Post: An Exchange with Executive Editor Martin Baron \| Nor	[00:33]
asciilifeform	ham radio 'moon bounce' method is a good way to indestructibly store bits. for a few min. anyway.	[00:33]
googBus_	keeping 'the assets' transparent:	[00:33]
googBus_	'"A basic principle of journalism is to acknowledge when the owner of a media outlet has a major financial relationship with the subject of coverage. We strongly urge the Washington Post to be fully candid with its readers about the fact that the newspaper's new owner, Jeff Bezos, is the founder and CEO of Amazon which recently landed a $600 million contract with the CIA.'	[00:33]
googBus_	asciilifeform could be if non-interferred with, yup	[00:34]
asciilifeform	know how in the early days of computing they had 'delay line memory'?	[00:35]
asciilifeform	you could probably set up an optical version of this, using a mirror in space.	[00:35]
googBus_	early computing is fun to look at--the electronic stuff. washingmachines :)	[00:35]
jurov	the camera feed could be transmitted some mile away by optical beam	[00:35]
Apocalyptic	gg	[00:36]
jurov	at least until police learns and starts shrouding the premises in smoke	[00:36]
truffles	gg	[00:36]
Apocalyptic	interesting game truffles	[00:36]
asciilifeform	jurov: hard part is to ensure that somebody is usefully listening.	[00:36]
truffles	blew it half way in!	[00:36]
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Apocalyptic	you had some strong kingside defense	[00:36]
googBus_	there's an iee journal mention of that sort of concept for earth. a few of us perhaps simultaneously--however ironic that is--had the notion of using the network itself as a storage system	[00:36]
jurov	http://ronja.twibright.com/ is point to point optical link	[00:37]
ozbot	Home	[00:37]
truffles	yea, got ahead of meself	[00:37]
jurov	cheap diy	[00:37]
googBus_	asciilifeform you've probably seen that movie, Contact	[00:37]
googBus_	(regarding the point of listening)	[00:37]
truffles	im gonna take booze break	[00:38]
googBus_	use to consider it educational to let so called police and intel watch all my buffers :)	[00:38]
googBus_	dhs bze-alln-break ;)	[00:38]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32036 @ 0.00100808 = 32.2949 BTC [+] {2}	[00:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00484631 = 0.2035 BTC [+] {7}	[00:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00048551 = 0.4855 BTC [+] {6}	[01:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 323 @ 0.003095 = 0.9997 BTC [-]	[01:19]
benkay	!t m s.mpoe	[01:19]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00099375 / 0.0010037 / 0.00101414 (407542 shares, 409.05 BTC), 7D: 0.00084311 / 0.00096471 / 0.00101414 (5705993 shares, 5,504.64 BTC), 30D: 0.0007653 / 0.00088974 / 0.00101414 (28043032 shares, 24,951.22 BTC)	[01:19]
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benkay	!l m s.mpoe	[01:20]
assbot	Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00100808 BTC [+]	[01:20]
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benkay	!l m s.nsa	[01:21]
assbot	Last trade for S.NSA on MPEX was at 0.00017 BTC [+]	[01:21]
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jurov	http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/23/tech/innovation/could-this-electric-beast-be-the-fastest-supercar/ nejc kodric's next car?	[01:30]
ozbot	Could this electric car soon be the fastest supercar on earth? - CNN.com	[01:30]
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googBus_	whatever cnn "says": 'For years electric vehicles have been regarded as the frumpy inner-city siblings of their hardier countryside 4x4 brethren or zippier track-friendly supercar sisters.'	[01:37]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8956 @ 0.00100843 = 9.0315 BTC [+] {2}	[01:41]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 297 @ 0.00460007 = 1.3662 BTC [-] {4}	[01:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4808 @ 0.00100839 = 4.8483 BTC [-]	[01:54]
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KRS1	;;getrating cokea	[02:32]
gribble	Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating	[02:32]
KRS1	;;gettrust cokea	[02:32]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user KRS1 to user cokea: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=KRS1&dest=cokea \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cokea \| Rated since: never	[02:32]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 24 @ 0.00454567 = 0.1091 BTC [-] {5}	[02:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.49 = 2.94 BTC [+] {2}	[02:50]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.49924999 = 3.994 BTC [+] {3}	[02:53]
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nubbins`	hi	[03:36]
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kakobrekla	hi	[03:43]
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benkay	hi	[03:57]
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mircea_popescu	benkay "I am currently using this fiction whereby the MPBOR established through the workings on one month is declared to be the central bank rate valid for the next month. This is obviously not particularly correct, other than the twin considerations that “natura non facit saltus” on one hand and that it works on the other."	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-bonds-historical-data-dec-2012-nov-2013/#footnote_5_51623	[04:31]
ozbot	MPOE bonds historical data, Dec 2012 - Nov 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha stable	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	good one	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	for some odd reason, nobody ever gets this lucky in meatspace casino. << they do, actually.	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	i distinctly remember this rush where wynn was trying to somehow structure a deal to cover for an insanely lucky player over the weekend	[04:32]
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asciilifeform	i always wondered if the de-facto rule in meatspace casinos is 'don't win more than it costs to have your body fed to pigs,' or the like.	[04:34]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00094348 = 0.9435 BTC [+] {3}	[04:35]
asciilifeform	casino politics is an interesting subject	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	this was, as best anyone can determine, not the case past about 1880 or so	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	in general the route is to pay up, in cash, then pile gifts upon you so that you return to the table.	[04:37]
asciilifeform	someone i know was involved in the design of video poker machines, long ago, and was told that his name will probably end up on the 'reject list' (turn out at the door)	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	benkay why "mirceapopescu" as a subscript for th e2nd word ?!	[04:37]
BingoBoingo	Yeah, most people involved in casino work more sophisticated than carrying drinks tend to find their way on reject lists, at least for their own casino	[04:38]
asciilifeform	i don't know for a fact that this is so - he never had the slightest desire to set foot in a casino.	[04:38]
asciilifeform	but it strikes me as plausible - i can see why they'd rather not risk it.	[04:38]
benkay	org mode is being clever	[04:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 160 @ 0.0009489 = 0.1518 BTC [+]	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo most people who are good at anything more involved than sucking cock (which is really the criteria for COCKtail waitresses) don't like to play anyway.	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	i don't think i ever saw a pit boss play anything, ever.	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform exactly.	[04:40]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I've know a couple who do poker tournaments and have done the thing where you sit at the blackjack table and try not to lose more than you would have spent on the drinks.	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	did they last five years in their job ?	[04:41]
BingoBoingo	one of them is going on seven and can't say what he got promoted to. Just he doesn't work the floor anymore. Most of them have burned out in under a year though.	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	kinda meshes then	[04:43]
BingoBoingo	The only people with longevity dealing tables seem to be the people doing it to keep busy after they retire.	[04:44]
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mircea_popescu	it's funny, for 2-3 decades they kept trying to get hot female and even mal;e dealers	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	eventually gave up on the notion.	[04:45]
BingoBoingo	Most casinos here don't have much in the way of table games. The slots and video poker seem to cover most of the floor.	[04:47]
mircea_popescu	and by here you mean "this millenium"	[04:47]
BingoBoingo	Well, yes. Similar to BTC and how many people do the dice stuff trying to magic their way into a jackpot.	[04:48]
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benkay	also lower labor overhead on the machines, i imagine	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	one of the better "investments"	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	benkay i suspect it's the progressives really.	[04:49]
benkay	?	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	big wins on small odds is what drives crowds.	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	it's impossible to efficiently get 100 blackjack deals to share pennies into a multi-million pot.	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	machines can easily do it.	[04:49]
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mircea_popescu	pankkake : s/xunitparser/cuntitsparser.	[04:53]
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herbijudlestoids	hey guys	[05:04]
herbijudlestoids	remember i was in here the other day complaining how postmodern the inernet is?	[05:04]
herbijudlestoids	well i saw today an article about cloudcoin/bitcloud lol these guys dont even realise https://github.com/bytemaster/tornet this exists already	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	that's okay. 9x% of all noobs reinvent the wheel earnestly convinced they are contributing.	[05:07]
mircea_popescu	usually their wheel is square and stuff, too.	[05:07]
herbijudlestoids	hows it going mircea_popescu	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	pretty good.	[05:10]
herbijudlestoids	thats good, whats happening today? i just came on to complain as usual	[05:11]
mike_c	asciilifeform: last time i looked at a casino profit chart it read like: 11b profit on slots, 1b on table games.	[05:12]
benkay	herbijudlestoids: it's not abandonware?	[05:13]
mike_c	er, i meant to send that to BingoBoingo :) re: floorspace for slots vs table games	[05:14]
herbijudlestoids	benkay: probably to some extent it is	[05:14]
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BingoBoingo	mike_c: Well other factors being equal a slot machine allow for placing bets faster than a dealer does	[05:16]
mike_c	plus there is a world of blue-haired ladies with nothing better to do.	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	i tell you, it's the progressives.	[05:17]
mircea_popescu	no craps game ever had a 19mn jackpot	[05:17]
mike_c	carribean stud tries to do that with a table game	[05:18]
mike_c	jackpot is usually like 100k though	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	mhm	[05:19]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: (unrelated) i now sympathize with your travails re: that Mac SE	[05:25]
BingoBoingo	I imagine speed element plays in too. That may play into why so few in US casino industry are trying to fight to expand regulated sports and event gambling to new jurisdictions. The few hours it takes a sporting contest to resolve is something I don't know if they can comprehend compared to the seconds a slot takes. May as well be an eternity.	[05:26]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: recently tried, and failed, to get several different OS running acceptably on a '90s laptop	[05:26]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Oh?	[05:26]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: toshiba l 110ct	[05:26]
asciilifeform	233MHz, 64M RAM, (modern) 60GB SSD	[05:27]
herbijudlestoids	try netbsd	[05:28]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: These are the great problems of our times. Getting hardware worth using to work again is a challenge.	[05:28]
herbijudlestoids	asciilifeform: which OS have you tried so far? i feel like they should work	[05:29]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: the real royal bitch is that it needs a 70M hole at 8.4G offset with no partition in it (suspend-to-disk)	[05:29]
asciilifeform	herbijudlestoids: freebsd (what i had on it when i was a student), but didn't have the gigantic disk then	[05:29]
BingoBoingo	herbijudlestoids: Actual for obscure and old hardware OpenBSD seems to have better hardware and human support than NetBSD. At least that seems the experience on 68k machines	[05:29]
herbijudlestoids	BingoBoingo: youre probably right	[05:30]
asciilifeform	then debian, and killed it in nauseating revulsion, discovering that it swaps to disk with nothing interesting running	[05:30]
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asciilifeform	and comes with a bowl full of turds (bluetooth, avahe, etc.) by default	[05:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00100447 = 8.8393 BTC [-]	[05:30]
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BingoBoingo	I still miss 128 MB of Ram in a compact desktop sold in a time such things were rather unimaginable.	[05:32]
asciilifeform	this box was originally 32, expanded to 64 (max).	[05:32]
BingoBoingo	So much Hypercard	[05:33]
BingoBoingo	The old SE/30 was 4MB when I picked it up at a school auction for $10	[05:33]
the20year2	my first pc was 16mb w/ a 1g HD	[05:34]
the20year2	err, 1.2gb	[05:34]
BingoBoingo	I also have a few Mac Classics and Classic II's which had 1 MB of Ram. Cannabalized 4 of them to give one classic 4 MB of RAM (cheaper to get whole machines than sticks) Had to order RAM to beef up the SE/30 though	[05:35]
asciilifeform	my symbolics 3620 has 4mb.	[05:35]
the20year2	sweet	[05:35]
BingoBoingo	The Classics had 40 MB hard drives, the SE/30 came to me with a 20 MB hard drive.	[05:36]
asciilifeform	http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/22982/Symbolics/ (not mine, but good picture)	[05:36]
the20year2	A local school threw out a bunch of older 386 PCs with 20mb drives, they were huge	[05:37]
nubbins`	my first pc was a tandy 1000sx	[05:37]
nubbins`	dual 5.25"s, no hd	[05:37]
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the20year2	Nice	[05:37]
nubbins`	had this golf game where you had the option to print your scores at the end. we didn't have a printer; my dad tried to explain it to me, and i couldn't wrap my head around it	[05:38]
nubbins`	"but if it doesn't have any keys, how does it mark the paper?"	[05:38]
BingoBoingo	My first computers were this flock of old macs I got from the school back in 1999 or 2000. Maybe it was 2001?	[05:39]
nubbins`	i remember upgrading the ram to 512kb to play king's quest iv	[05:40]
nubbins`	those were hard fuckin games	[05:40]
BingoBoingo	It was the summer before I started High School. I had gone that long without a computer and decided fuck it, I'm getting several.	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform try openbsd :D	[05:42]
BingoBoingo	It took several trips walking to et them all carried home.	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	king's quest was pretty ok, but not rly so hard.	[05:43]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: that's more or less all that's left. now if someone here knows how to get a bsd to boot from a small separate partition below 1024 cylinders, and mount root fs, etc. from a larger one...	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	lilo!	[05:43]
TomServo	king's quest was great until I found monkey island	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	actually talking of hard games, try king's bounty on top diffictuly. the modern versions	[05:44]
mircea_popescu	they're insane.	[05:44]
nubbins`	i mean, i got through them fine as a kid, maybe i had more patience back then	[05:44]
asciilifeform	the bootloader wasn't the issue - the *bsds seem to insist on a massive single mbr partition subdivided into bsd 'labels'	[05:44]
mircea_popescu	wotn probably can't even be done, you won't get past that spider.	[05:44]
nubbins`	they re-released king's quest 3 a couple years ago, i gave it a shot	[05:45]
nubbins`	fared brutally	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you mean they fail to represent the disk arrangement ?	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	or am i missing something	[05:46]
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nubbins`	http://www.agdinteractive.com/games/kq3/download/download.html	[05:46]
asciilifeform	freebsd (1st try) didn't like having its '/boot' live on a separate mbr part.	[05:46]
nubbins`	windows/mac only ;(	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	that sounds insane.	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	how does it even know.	[05:47]
asciilifeform	it hardcodes '/boot/kernel/...' into the loader, it seems	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` i always liked the part where it's "sir graham the hero". esp for a romanian speaker it was like Sir Breadloaf	[05:47]
nubbins`	haha	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	ok. that is the most retarded fucking thing i ever heard	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	who does this.	[05:47]
nubbins`	sir graham, the earl of sandwich	[05:48]
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mircea_popescu	hjahaha	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	no it was like fiverpool or somesuch	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	bover	[05:49]
asciilifeform	the machine in question is more than an idle plaything, it has a dos fat16 part. (to drive CO2 laser)	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck was it	[05:49]
nubbins`	daventry!	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	mondon lol. it was ah yes!	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	yes that's it	[05:49]
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nubbins`	the first time a machine made me feel fear was when the snow monster popped out at me for the first time	[05:50]
nubbins`	first time first time	[05:50]
herbijudlestoids	hehe tim cook aapl ceo says there is no backdoor in aapl products but since they are under a gag order he cant prove it	[05:57]
asciilifeform	http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/openbsd-newbies/2006-October/003187.html	[05:58]
ozbot	[OpenBSD/i386] 2 MBR Partitions with OpenBSD?	[05:58]
asciilifeform	seems like openbsd won't even try to install /boot to a separate mbr part.	[05:58]
KRS1	which boot loader lilo?	[06:02]
asciilifeform	KRS1: not an issue with the boot loader	[06:02]
asciilifeform	but with an os that presumes that it lives on one mbr part.	[06:03]
mircea_popescu	herp. what gag order.	[06:03]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i suppose you can just edit and recompile...	[06:03]
mircea_popescu	not that such a thing should ever be said to anyone in any context, let alone in response to "hi lol, we hardcoded random shit because magic strings are cool"	[06:04]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: and what if i were 'civilian', rather than a weirdo with a physical drive hooked through a dongle to a vm for installs/overnight compile of whatever	[06:05]
KRS1	pbr?	[06:05]
asciilifeform	and stuck doing compile on a pentium 1...	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	ikr.	[06:05]
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asciilifeform	the only reason i even tell this story here is to note how obscenely bloated modern unixlikes have become	[06:06]
KRS1	the pbr locates /boot not mbr	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform http://24.media.tumblr.com/276732a929bca5e826348f107881e783/tumblr_mlg7z8DEV01ru15g3o1_1280.jpg	[06:07]
mircea_popescu	random civillian reaction.	[06:07]
KRS1	just trying to help not to try to be disrespectful or anything but if mbr is working right, pbr isn't set right	[06:07]
asciilifeform	what's the object bolted to the wall?	[06:07]
mircea_popescu	on the left ? a wire mask	[06:08]
asciilifeform	KRS1: partitions are trivial to lay out, the issue was that the bsd loader presumes that '/boot' and '/' are on the same partition.	[06:09]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i suppose she is 'calling someone who cares'	[06:09]
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Neil	https://blockchain.info/block-height/282405 Smallest SHA256 ever? I think that block would pass for 20 trillion difficulty	[06:11]
ozbot	Bitcoin Blocks At Height 282405	[06:11]
benkay	nethack y'all nethack	[06:11]
mircea_popescu	nice find Neil	[06:11]
mircea_popescu	but i recall 20 0's hash as record tho i couldn't name the block	[06:12]
herbijudlestoids	any europeans handy with an opinion on ukraine	[06:13]
herbijudlestoids	basically what i saw was that ukraine picked gazprom over eu gas and the next day riots erupted	[06:13]
herbijudlestoids	seems kind of sus	[06:13]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=429331.0	[06:14]
ozbot	My Story Past Gambling Addiction	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	faces of the 2013 bitcoin generation.	[06:14]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: reminiscent of your observations re: dope addicts. that is, one marvels at their ability to get hold of the $$$$ to carry on	[06:15]
asciilifeform	'$1000 here, $7000 there'	[06:15]
mircea_popescu	it's their unconscionable mothers.	[06:15]
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mircea_popescu	"About two weeks later I started my sophomore year at college." is the controlling part.	[06:17]
BingoBoingo	Well, this is the sort of stuff the magical thinking that leads people to dice and slots does.	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	sophomores don't belong dorking about acting as if they were men and thinking about their bankroll.	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	also known as "don't take your guns to town"	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	;;google cash don't take your guns to town	[06:20]
gribble	Johnny Cash "Don't Take Your Guns to Town" - YouTube: ; Johnny Cash - Don't Take Your Guns To Town - YouTube: ; JOHNNY CASH LYRICS - Don't Take Your Guns To Town - A-Z Lyrics:	[06:20]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.buzzfeed.com/jacobfischler/dinesh-dsouza-charged-with-election-fraud	[06:23]
ozbot	Dinesh D'Souza Charged With Election Fraud	[06:23]
mircea_popescu	if you live in the us, don't make stuff that mocks obama	[06:23]
mircea_popescu	or else it's jale for you.	[06:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4223 @ 0.00100686 = 4.252 BTC [+]	[06:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.49 = 2.45 BTC [-]	[06:25]
herbijudlestoids	yep, dont piss off oblabla	[06:26]
mircea_popescu	lol	[06:26]
mircea_popescu	don't say he's a grown-up trayvon. anything but pointing out teh obvious.	[06:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.49 = 2.45 BTC [-]	[06:27]
herbijudlestoids	i remember in 2008	[06:28]
herbijudlestoids	i would listen to oblabla speak	[06:28]
herbijudlestoids	and think to myself	[06:28]
herbijudlestoids	finally this is the guy we have all been waiting for	[06:28]
herbijudlestoids	what a stupid fuckwit i was	[06:28]
herbijudlestoids	i think i actually like george bush more	[06:28]
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kakobrekla	no, thats the next dude.	[06:28]
mircea_popescu	many people actually believed the "intelligent, educated guy that happens to be black"	[06:28]
herbijudlestoids	well it wasnt that but he said all the right things	[06:29]
BingoBoingo	Well, in the US we get just the worst candidates	[06:29]
herbijudlestoids	remembrer when oblabla said he wanted to close guantanamo LOL	[06:29]
mircea_popescu	yeah, that's so totally unique to the us...	[06:29]
herbijudlestoids	or when he said the PATRIOT act was bad ahahahahahahha	[06:29]
mircea_popescu	aka "read my lips" moments.	[06:29]
herbijudlestoids	the best, best of absolute all was when he told us that they would be the most transparent administration in history	[06:30]
herbijudlestoids	LMFAO	[06:30]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.487 = 2.435 BTC [-] {2}	[06:30]
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mircea_popescu	but it is pretty transparent	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	you can see right through it.	[06:31]
herbijudlestoids	through yes, into no	[06:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.4861 = 2.4305 BTC [-]	[06:31]
herbijudlestoids	i want the revolving door for big finance, big pharma and big industry in general to end	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	why ?	[06:32]
herbijudlestoids	there is no way you should be able to be the head of some important decision making function at the USDA and then in a week go work for monsanto	[06:32]
herbijudlestoids	or be the general who blows up civilians and then go onto consult for fox news and raytheon	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	right. but this mostly because you don't want either usda or monsanto	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	so in short, the door is not the problem. the existence of the buildings the door is attached to is the problem	[06:33]
herbijudlestoids	by the same token raytheon lobbyists should not be allowed to become the chief of staff at the pentagon	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	because neither raytheon or pentagon should exist.	[06:33]
herbijudlestoids	well no	[06:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.486 BTC [-]	[06:33]
herbijudlestoids	im not ideologically opposed to the idea of national self defence, or industrial agriculture per se	[06:33]
chetty	yeah well close the door is the first step. then you can blow up the buildings one at a time	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	in that case you're stuck with the statu quo.	[06:34]
herbijudlestoids	wut/	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	because you only have so many intelligent people involved, and so both regulator and actor hire from the same pool	[06:34]
herbijudlestoids	so you reckon we cant have one without the other? its simply impssobie for humans?	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	and are happy when someone accepts a job.	[06:34]
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herbijudlestoids	thats quite cynical but i guess you are probly right im being idealistic	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	right.	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	you have 500 ceo jobs to be filled and 50 regulator head jobs to be filled	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	if you're lucky you have 5 people who could do it, and they could do either.	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	what now ?	[06:35]
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herbijudlestoids	well then i will settle for more information, everything needs to be more transparent so we can at least argue over it	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	yeah, except bitcoin has perfect information and the end result is what, the forum ?	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	information doesn't help the stupid, nor the lazy.	[06:36]
herbijudlestoids	fine, you cynical realist bastard	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	yw.	[06:36]
herbijudlestoids	i want more information and an educated populace	[06:36]
BingoBoingo	Not going to happen populaces resist education	[06:37]
mircea_popescu	"75% of 200 anon voters are in agreement bitbet should give random people random moneyz" and "anon dork knows X scam is legit, anon dork Y knows mpex exists to scam noobs". that's your information and argument >D	[06:37]
herbijudlestoids	i think probably we arent all stupid and lazy	[06:37]
herbijudlestoids	but we are goaded into it over time	[06:37]
mircea_popescu	yeah, but it's easier to stay stupid and be lazy.	[06:37]
mircea_popescu	therefore, any distribution will be stupid-heavy and lazy-heavy	[06:37]
herbijudlestoids	especially if youve got something to lose, like a girlfriend or family	[06:37]
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mircea_popescu	nah	[06:38]
mircea_popescu	people will gladly lose it and then cry.	[06:38]
mircea_popescu	rather than think and so get to keep it.	[06:38]
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mircea_popescu	the only way to get an "educated populace" is to constuct a hierarchy, where 90% are enforced into slavery, and then the 10% at the top have a good incentive to be educated	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	british empire style.	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	it's still not a stable solution	[06:39]
chetty	too bad its not reversible = thinking and not being lazy always wins	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	(partly because the daughters are sluts and keep fucking the underclass, partly because the sons are lazy and well... same deal)	[06:39]
herbijudlestoids	today is australia day here in australia	[06:40]
herbijudlestoids	i call it amnesia day	[06:40]
herbijudlestoids	drink up and forget	[06:40]
mircea_popescu	what, the glorious days of penal colony ? :D	[06:40]
herbijudlestoids	yeah some stupid shit like that	[06:41]
herbijudlestoids	i just listen to this song	[06:41]
herbijudlestoids	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XUtFL8bTNg	[06:41]
ozbot	Hilltop Hoods - The Calling - Walk On - YouTube	[06:41]
herbijudlestoids	oz hiphop	[06:41]
herbijudlestoids	its my australian anthem	[06:41]
*	herbijudlestoids turns it up and salutes the flag	[06:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1350 @ 0.00100693 = 1.3594 BTC [+] {2}	[06:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.47 = 6.11 BTC [-] {4}	[06:42]
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herbijudlestoids	forget all the fucked up shit we did to get where we are, forget all the fucked up shit we are right now and forget how fucked up its all gonna get	[06:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00100706 = 7.2508 BTC [+]	[06:45]
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herbijudlestoids	nevermind	[06:47]
herbijudlestoids	i think i should go and do something	[06:47]
herbijudlestoids	(instead of trying to make ascii art of australia)	[06:48]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8177 @ 0.00100708 = 8.2349 BTC [+]	[07:04]
asciilifeform	for anyone who ever finds himself in the vintage laptop quandary described earlier:	[07:04]
asciilifeform	solution = openbsd + 'plop' (boot manager that laughs at idiot 8GB limit of old bios)	[07:05]
BingoBoingo	That might be incredibly useful in the future.	[07:05]
asciilifeform	http://www.plop.at/en/whatisplop.html	[07:06]
ozbot	Plop - What is Plop?	[07:06]
asciilifeform	openbsd still eats most of the 64M though.	[07:06]
BingoBoingo	Well, other than trying progressively older versions of OpenBSD I dunno if there is a solution to Unix bloat.	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	plop is a poplar tree.	[07:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.00469998 = 0.1175 BTC [-]	[07:09]
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asciilifeform	1980s unix users would have killed for 64MB.	[07:10]
asciilifeform	or 233MHz / 32bit bus.	[07:10]
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mircea_popescu	so on the good news side of things, i just picked up some indescript bark shavings and crafted a coupla bark flasks in eulora	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	they came out different qualities and everything	[15:56]
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Vexual	can a player whittle?	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	basically	[16:00]
Vexual	awesome	[16:00]
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Vexual	thad'b be patience huh?	[16:05]
pankkake	https://github.com/Feminist-Software-Foundation/Internet-plus-Equality	[16:05]
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Vexual	i think moxies girls made a real version of that already for iphone	[16:06]
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Vexual	detects amourous creeps and notifies 4 girlfriends by geolocation, 5 minutes later, said creep is pummelled unconcious by jimmy choo	[16:12]
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Vexual	i think it was called circle of friends, but i can't find it	[16:24]
Vexual	perhaps they decided they liked amourous creeps	[16:24]
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Vexual	can i play eulora?	[16:25]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.04990001 = 0.3992 BTC [+]	[16:26]
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mircea_popescu	pankkake i see your feminism and i raise you a http://trilema.com/2014/the-pregnant-human-female/	[16:30]
KRS1	hetero moment plz	[16:30]
KRS1	.bait	[16:30]
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ozbot	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m34kcoKGsP1r2z5szo1_1280.jpg	[16:31]
KRS1	Mmmm	[16:31]
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mircea_popescu	"Feminist software is a cornerstone of any modern free society. We build this foundation." derp lol.	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	why not stamp collecting ? what's feminism got that stamp collecting ain't got to make it the cornerstone of random modern X ?	[16:33]
pankkake	it's a parody	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	ya i see. darn good one, it had me going originally.	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	or perhaps a subgroup of tards posing as feminists make it really easy.	[16:35]
pankkake	the reality isn't less dumb	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	there is some space for actual feminism i think	[16:36]
Vexual	mma?	[16:36]
Vexual	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBi6rcQe9ig	[16:38]
ozbot	Broken Foot - Ninja Girl (Women's MMA; Female MMA) - YouTube	[16:38]
mircea_popescu	mno, just, there are specifiable behaviours which are both successful and also both statistically associated with females and conceptually derivable from the feminine. no good reason they shouldn't be specifically represented.	[16:38]
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KRS1	feminism is gay	[16:41]
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Vexual	real women hunt pigs with a horse and a knife	[16:48]
Apocalyptic	lol	[16:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.40509166 = 4.8611 BTC [-] {4}	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	how do you wound a pig with a knife from horseback ? do real women have 9 foot long arms ?	[16:50]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.00087588 = 0.219 BTC [+]	[16:50]
Vexual	well they'd have some sort of wolf hound too i imagine	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	so they're what, hunt managers ?	[16:51]
Vexual	yeah	[16:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.4 = 2.4 BTC [-] {3}	[16:51]
Vexual	and if the kids fall into the fire, theyre idiots	[16:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 102 @ 0.00469998 = 0.4794 BTC [-] {2}	[16:52]
Vexual	but if i go hunting all week for a mammoth dinner, ill be really cross if theres no bacon for breakfast	[16:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.40000001 = 2 BTC [+]	[16:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00440106 = 0.4533 BTC [-] {4}	[16:54]
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pankkake	"The emergence of solar and wind farms to generate inexpensive crypto-currencies and the de-commissioning of carbon emitting mining devices."	[17:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.40129499 = 8.0259 BTC [+] {4}	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	lol	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	is this some fuckference ?	[17:04]
pankkake	no it's super cereal. and on cryptolol exchange: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431195.0	[17:05]
pankkake	I didn't read it all the first time	[17:05]
mircea_popescu	stealing diablo's idea, for shame.	[17:05]
mircea_popescu	maybe they get a million bitcoin invested.	[17:05]
pankkake	well, except it has nothing to do with what the company is supposed to do	[17:06]
pankkake	but I suppose every bitcoin business has to make its own asic	[17:06]
pankkake	it's like social media, you just have to!	[17:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4001 BTC [-]	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	so retarded this, speaking of "exactly the wrong thing"	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	every "business" has to make its own a) altchain b) asic c) exchange.	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	this is incidentally quite clear proof that they are not businesses in any sense of the term, but mere extensions in the verbal space of the will to live of some twerps.	[17:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.39763157 = 7.555 BTC [-] {2}	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	they do not with anything else than to matter, to impose themselves in the world. there's no business there, just the desire that drives some poor third worlder to spam or beg or try and steal. the will to live.	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	pseudo-businesses are all about the "ceo".	[17:11]
pankkake	isn't MP?? all about MP?	[17:11]
Vexual	https://www.ravencontemporary.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/0100259_130507140738l.jpg	[17:12]
mircea_popescu	this is why they do not in fact perceive they need a business plan. this is why the very sensible "ask mp's permission first" comes through as quite intolerable "before you may fuck youy must buy a bride from the elders of the tribe", a limit on the life of the young male.	[17:12]
pankkake	Vexual: nice bitches (ok that was easy)	[17:12]
mircea_popescu	i'm quite enlightenefd	[17:12]
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jborkl	.diff	[17:16]
ozbot	2193847870.17428 \| Next Diff in 1687 blocks \| Estimated Change: 10.4614% in 10d 11h 31m 39s	[17:17]
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pankkake	are the mpex diff futures dead?	[17:17]
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mircea_popescu	!t m x.eur	[17:19]
assbot	[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00166612 / 0.0016776 / 0.00175 (2339 shares, 3.92 BTC), 30D: 0.0016245 / 0.00185012 / 0.00333333 (16089 shares, 29.77 BTC)	[17:19]
pankkake	"French President Hollande will announce DIVORCE by March 28, 2014 " uh, he isn't married as far as I know	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	not particularly	[17:19]
pankkake	difficulty futures	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	o those. yeah, not doing too well atm.	[17:20]
pankkake	bitbet eating all the lunch	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	i suppose so	[17:21]
Vexual	or bitfury with a catch 22 buffet	[17:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.0042064 = 0.3323 BTC [-] {5}	[17:23]
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Vexual	is there a bet on difficulty in 11 months?	[17:26]
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mircea_popescu	afaik furthest out is july	[17:36]
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Vexual	9b in may is a big call	[17:41]
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pankkake	;;premium mtgox bitstamp	[17:49]
gribble	Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 24.0106183483 %.	[17:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.4 = 8 BTC [+]	[17:49]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/business-whatever-that-may-mean/	[17:52]
ozbot	“Business”, whatever that may mean. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	just for you p :D	[17:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.4 = 3.6 BTC [+]	[17:52]
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nubbins`	hi	[17:55]
pankkake	cool, it isn't 90% irc logs, and it has pics. satoshis well spent	[17:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.4 = 1.6 BTC [+]	[17:55]
nubbins`	http://imgur.com/3FlGFcf	[17:56]
ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[17:56]
nubbins`	^ this morning's bounty	[17:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]	[17:56]
nubbins`	no air bubbles	[17:56]
nubbins`	i'm getting better	[17:56]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [7C] 100 @ 0.00559405 = 0.5594 BTC [+] {3}	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	original pics taken by me to boot!	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` o hey, looking better.	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	i might even consider eating one of those now	[17:59]
nubbins`	tasting a lot better too	[18:00]
nubbins`	i started adding rusk	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	hair conditioner ?!	[18:01]
nubbins`	really helps with the moisture retention	[18:01]
nubbins`	haha	[18:01]
nubbins`	no, twice-baked bread ;(	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	lol	[18:01]
nubbins`	like melba toast, or croutons	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	yea yea	[18:01]
nubbins`	or in my case, a box of stovetop stuffing mix	[18:01]
nubbins`	comedian ;p	[18:01]
nubbins`	another few batches and i think i'll be ready to start trying salami	[18:02]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.38101 = 1.9051 BTC [-]	[18:04]
nubbins`	someone floated the idea the other day of mid-to-late april bumps being caused by people dumping their tax refunds into btc	[18:08]
nubbins`	i'm not convinced	[18:08]
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KRS1	nay	[18:10]
KRS1	people gotta eat and babby momma want that new coach purse	[18:11]
nubbins`	actually had to google that	[18:12]
KRS1	.bait	[18:12]
ozbot	http://25.media.tumblr.com/ff11e544e35a3c841f1638389fa4acea/tumblr_mhs647h9aK1qk50iuo1_1280.jpg	[18:12]
KRS1	HAH i know a girl that looks just like that we party sometimes	[18:12]
KRS1	except this girl has a face kind of like beavis	[18:13]
nubbins`	you mean she just walks around with her tit hanging out?	[18:13]
nubbins`	what a freak	[18:13]
KRS1	ya this girl i know is a real drunk too	[18:14]
KRS1	so she not always fun	[18:14]
KRS1	i just re-upped at the local liquor store..got me some more fireball for tonight	[18:14]
nubbins`	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1w71zv/til_most_us_bank_branches_will_only_allow_you_to/	[18:15]
ozbot	TIL Most US Bank branches will only allow you to withdrawal less than $5,000 (cash) in a given week	[18:15]
nubbins`	i was thinking about this, there's a stipulation at both of the banks i deal with here in canada that you must give your branch at least 24 hours notice before large withdrawals	[18:16]
nubbins`	but i mean really. guy thinks each building holds enough cash on-hand to just dole out $20k to each customer all day?	[18:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.0045 = 0.135 BTC [-]	[18:17]
pankkake	KRS1> except this girl has a face kind of like beavis <= lol, can't unsee	[18:17]
pankkake	"You can go to multiple branches in a day/week but still you can't just cash withdrawal $10,000 in a single branch" so, what's the issue really?	[18:19]
KRS1	haha	[18:20]
KRS1	ref- banks and that reddit thread, US banks I think have been like that for a long time	[18:22]
KRS1	I cashed out $30K once and just had to give them a day's notice for them to get the cash on hand..i didnt answer any questions..had no problems.	[18:22]
pankkake	I don't think this is new or different from anywhere	[18:22]
KRS1	nope its not	[18:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.07525049 = 1.505 BTC [-] {5}	[18:23]
KRS1	imo kids are now getting involved in finance because of this magic internet money and there is much ignorance	[18:23]
pankkake	though at least in France big transactions - cash or whatever - automatically get reported	[18:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.40285714 = 2.82 BTC [+] {2}	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	nubbins`> i was thinking about this, there's a stipulation at both of the banks i deal with here in canada that you must give your branch at least 24 hours notice before large withdrawals <<< this is true in romania too	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	but it's a convenience thing. you give notice so they can get the cash in the right building	[18:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.38029662 = 10.268 BTC [-] {7}	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	they're actually at risk of losing their license if they fail to pay.	[18:25]
nubbins`	^	[18:26]
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asciilifeform	phun phact: in the u.s., taking out < $X cash, where X is the government reporting minimum, is an indictable crime.	[18:28]
asciilifeform	(officially: if intent can be proven)	[18:28]
pankkake	you mean, travelling without enough cash?	[18:29]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.41024998 = 7.3845 BTC [+] {4}	[18:31]
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mircea_popescu	part of the entire "we'll make a joke of our legal system and then wonder why we get bombed" thing	[18:36]
asciilifeform	pankkake: this was about cash withdrawals from bank	[18:37]
asciilifeform	if you take out $2999, the jail cries for you immediately, in all likelihood.	[18:41]
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kakobrekla	what the point of the limit then	[18:49]
kakobrekla	whats	[18:49]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00099029 = 3.5155 BTC [-]	[19:13]
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punkman	such flowchart http://www.coinsigner.com/images/CoinsignerSystem.png	[19:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00099732 = 4.2386 BTC [+]	[19:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00098931 = 7.9145 BTC [-] {2}	[19:37]
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mircea_popescu	lol which one of you derps is https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets ?	[19:44]
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kakobrekla	lolwtf	[19:49]
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mircea_popescu	it's prolly pankkake	[19:53]
pankkake	it's TAT	[19:54]
pankkake	I don't twat	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	let's fingerpoint!	[19:54]
pankkake	I just finger redirected	[19:55]
mircea_popescu	hshs	[19:55]
pankkake	but he announced it here, anyway	[19:55]
mircea_popescu	a a	[19:56]
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TATdoesReno	the twitter is indeed me	[19:56]
KRS1	word is the north american bitcoin conference in miami is fun so far	[19:56]
TATdoesReno	account was made in a 'someone is wrong on the internet' moment	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	kik	[19:57]
KRS1	awesome weekend for that, best weather i've seen in a while	[19:57]
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TATdoesReno	it is indeed great weather for a circle jerk	[19:58]
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mircea_popescu	all weather's good weather for circlejerks	[19:58]
TATdoesReno	did anything actually happen yet in miami?	[19:58]
TATdoesReno	or just more prayer to the lord?	[19:58]
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TATdoesReno	i see bitpay is flaunting its success with golfcarts, lambos, and magicinternetmoney tshirts	[19:59]
KRS1	TATdoesReno Idk just spoke to a couple of people who went	[19:59]
pankkake	lambos on shirts or lambos?	[20:00]
TATdoesReno	lambos with BITPAY plate	[20:00]
TATdoesReno	lambo*	[20:00]
pankkake	nice!	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	the aeron play.	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	it never yet worked, but hey. we can't all be experienced ceos etc.	[20:00]
pankkake	at least aeron chairs are ergonomic	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[20:02]
TATdoesReno	“They’re not in my mind an example of hubris as much as they are an example of companies trying to treat their staff more generously than they could actually afford.”	[20:02]
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TATdoesReno	reading the aeron story	[20:02]
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pankkake	a very good work station (including the chair) is basically a month's salary. I wouldn't consider it as more than can be afforded	[20:03]
TATdoesReno	ive long delayed getting a great chair	[20:04]
TATdoesReno	i sit so retardly	[20:04]
TATdoesReno	indian-style in chair, often	[20:04]
pankkake	well, changing positions, even if they steem stupid, is already better than not changing	[20:05]
TATdoesReno	having cats is also a delay	[20:05]
TATdoesReno	they love climbing them and such	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	TATdoesReno as graham i think summed it up, the dotcom bubble consisted of the following process : noob company bamboozles some backers for financing, goes and drops all that into yahoo's lap for advertising.	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	revenue in yahoo fuels the impression there's a web revolution happening, which keeps the investors "investing"	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	a year later, with 0 roi on all the "investment", yahoo is left as a behemoth without a business model.	[20:06]
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TATdoesReno	hence google's being hellbent on diversification	[20:07]
TATdoesReno	people crying over them buying Nest are so dumb	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	pankkake a workstation only has value if you have people sitting there, working on something.	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	the corps at the time consisted of just the chairs.	[20:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.42999999 = 1.29 BTC [+] {2}	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	well, that and the yahoo advertising.	[20:08]
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TATdoesReno	i sold all my fiat stocks the day before this whole 'emerging markets' problem happened, purely coincidence caused by procrastination	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	course, amusingly enough, if btctalk wasn't run by kids it could have become that yahoo.	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	but rain happens for naught in the desert.	[20:09]
TATdoesReno	they are probably left with more coin for having not done that, as they woulda got all wrapped up in pretending to have a real business	[20:10]
TATdoesReno	this way they just keep it simple with forum auctions	[20:10]
TATdoesReno	whats he got by now? 5000btc?	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	they're bit players.	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	and it's dwindling.	[20:10]
CiPi	www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66FUc61MvU	[20:11]
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pankkake	mircea_popescu: oh, right. anyway, that's not how it should work; hire guys, ask them which chair they want	[20:12]
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TATdoesReno	lotsa a chatter that the mtgox bank run is finally engorged for action	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	for curiosity sake, other than renting cars for the day, did bitpay actually publish its figures finally ?	[20:13]
TATdoesReno	i think so	[20:13]
TATdoesReno	somehting like $300k per mo?	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	well, so what did they make in 2013 ?	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	300k per mo in december only or 3-4 mn in 2013 ?	[20:14]
TATdoesReno	i dunno, you could ask mr guppy	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	;;ask guppy yo ^	[20:15]
gribble	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.	[20:15]
mircea_popescu	anyway.	[20:15]
TATdoesReno	probly Nov/Dec figures	[20:15]
mircea_popescu	and is that payments processed or their own net revenue ?	[20:16]
TATdoesReno	revenue, payments proc is higher	[20:16]
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mircea_popescu	so like 10k btc processed in dec.	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	1% of mkt or something. a ways to go.	[20:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9475 @ 0.00098885 = 9.3694 BTC [-]	[20:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4584 @ 0.00098804 = 4.5292 BTC [-]	[20:19]
TATdoesReno	http://theblogchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Difference.png	[20:20]
TATdoesReno	http://theblogchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/usdprice.png	[20:21]
KRS1	.bait	[20:21]
ozbot	http://31.media.tumblr.com/8d916cddc387d97eebb11e4dab683b43/tumblr_mhycdxh7Nw1rsx13do1_500.jpg	[20:21]
TATdoesReno	maybe we'll get our next bubble early	[20:21]
kakobrekla	where is this bait material comming from, church forum?	[20:22]
KRS1	wantd to call dead cat but damn, cant be another bubble coming already	[20:22]
KRS1	ozbot: give me my .bait	[20:22]
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mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav295ALMN1qfpyaso1_500.jpg	[20:23]
KRS1	thank you	[20:23]
mircea_popescu	there.	[20:23]
KRS1	not into bondage but...hawt	[20:23]
mircea_popescu	some girls wear it well.	[20:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.43 = 3.44 BTC [+]	[20:24]
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KRS1	yes they do	[20:34]
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Mats_cd03	.bait	[20:53]
ozbot	http://31.media.tumblr.com/5e12c47c0255e6087daddc2472307f7b/tumblr_mfwbq6qiW51qc3ldvo1_500.jpg	[20:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 595 @ 0.00082992 = 0.4938 BTC [-] {11}	[20:59]
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TATdoesReno	http://thegoxreport.com/	[21:09]
ozbot	The Gox Report	[21:09]
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kakobrekla	ouch	[21:12]
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mircea_popescu	the idea someone;'s still using mtgox	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:13]
asciilifeform	someone is still using yahoo. and aol...	[21:13]
kakobrekla	someone is still using irc	[21:14]
kakobrekla	o wait	[21:14]
asciilifeform	there's even the old folks still renting phones from at&t (this particular racket was sold to lucent, and still brings in ~$20mil/yr. until they die of old age)	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	i guess there's no accounting for noobs	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yeah, yahoo is actually huge in romania	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	and in some other 3rd world markets.	[21:15]
asciilifeform	if i recall, their search engine was killed and buried long ago	[21:15]
asciilifeform	they use ms 'bing' for the back end now	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	i think pretty much everyone in the 20+ range active online is on yahoo here.	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla yeah, but irc actually works.	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	someone still eats pressed duck, even if they have synthetic mayo now, and someone still hunts	[21:16]
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mircea_popescu	( http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-esential-16389400-video-vanatoarea-balc-organizata-ion-tiriac-desfasurat-parcursul-doua-runde.htm < romanian rich guy organises yearly hunt on his own grounds, the local wanna-be liberal fucktards hold their breath and throw a hissy fit each year)	[21:17]
asciilifeform	what, boar is 'endangered species' now?	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	what do derps know /	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	global warming!	[21:21]
TATdoesReno	Scientists, increasingly able to detect minuscule amounts of compounds, have begun to test sewage to gauge communities' use of illegal drugs. When people take drugs, they are either unchanged or the body turns them into metabolites before they're excreted."The amphetamine levels go through the roof during finals," Burgard said.	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	this should make a nice anti-nsa-spyon on reddit	[21:27]
asciilifeform	TATdoesReno: old news. 1990s.	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	"nsa is spying on your piss for reefer"	[21:27]
TATdoesReno	somehow i find this much more interesting than hearing that spies spy	[21:28]
asciilifeform	TATdoesReno: for this to fit in the spirit of the nsa funfest, it'd have to be something like 'toilets discovered to contain embedded drug sensors and cell modems, rat you out'	[21:29]
asciilifeform	this scenario is not as fantastic as it might appear	[21:30]
asciilifeform	miniature GC/MS instruments have been churned out in astounding quantity, for the 'homeland security' market (sarin sensors on subways, post-'95)	[21:31]
asciilifeform	the ones around here are roughly the size of a traditional pay phone	[21:31]
asciilifeform	so not quite toilet-embeddable yet	[21:31]
bloctoc	I heard somewhere on the internet that Obama travels with his own bathroom for such reasons as stated above	[21:32]
TATdoesReno	they just test the water to make sure the dosages they put in it are right	[21:32]
asciilifeform	probably SOP, post-Kennedy.	[21:32]
TATdoesReno	http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2014/01/n-korea-executes-kim-uncle-entire-family-201412654416235831.html	[21:32]
ozbot	North Korea 'executes slain general's family' - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	bloctoc afaik it's an old loo created for nixon	[21:33]
TATdoesReno	relatives waited too long to exact revenge	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	back when he went to the eastern world.	[21:33]
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asciilifeform	poor country cannot afford to jail opposition	[21:37]
asciilifeform	just as the chinese replied, in '89, to 'why tanks?', with 'we aren't the u.s., can't afford warehouses full of "humane" riot gear'	[21:37]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[21:42]
asciilifeform	btw the chinese have scholars, of 'soviet collapse studies,' and some of their output is rather interesting and educational	[21:43]
asciilifeform	and was translated (to russian)	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	interesting how riot gear would be "humane". it looks rather dart-vader-esque really	[21:43]
asciilifeform	for instance, they see their country as having 'sat for the same exam' as the ussr, and passed, while the latter flunked.	[21:43]
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asciilifeform	http://www.tudou.com/listplay/Icl7UAlbQZs/m8kbq9cRXg0.html	[21:45]
asciilifeform	chinese cartoon on the subject	[21:45]
asciilifeform	english subs.	[21:45]
Apocalyptic	out of curiosity asciilifeform, are you living in Russia ?	[21:46]
asciilifeform	warning: not for women and other creatures with strong emotions	[21:46]
asciilifeform	Apocalyptic: u.s.	[21:46]
asciilifeform	Apocalyptic: moved with family as a boy	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform that view is popular, but imo flawed, fwtw.	[21:47]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: in as far as the chinese didn't allow themselves to be 'chinese spring'-ed, it is close.	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	for one thing, china is extremely homogenous, with precious few exceptions. georgia and the ukraine however are both quite distinct nations from the muscovy 'rus	[21:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.0499 = 1.497 BTC [-]	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	the caucasus is its own thing, not a nation but a patchwork of nations, which are all factual nations, in the manner of the old "sick man of europe".	[21:49]
asciilifeform	ukraine is a complicated beast. most of the folks there with 'national identity' are actually from the western half (really, pre-partition poland)	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	the chechens are not in any way russian. etc.	[21:49]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ukrainian nation was born out of stalin' famine. it is distinct from the commonwealth.	[21:49]
asciilifeform	fact is, every mega-empire has 'fault lines', along which it can be cleaved, whether by 'natural' decay, or external 'help.'	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	yes. but some great empires have them through the heart, like austro-hungary	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	other great empires have them through the ass.	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	cccp was type 1. the adventures of little boi han in tibet aren't the same bread.	[21:51]
asciilifeform	undefended arse can be just as lethal as heart	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	yes. but ass can also be beaten into submission.	[21:52]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, not proposing some sort of grand truth here, just pointing out that the differences between the soviets and the chinese are more than the similarities.	[21:53]
asciilifeform	many differences, yes. chinese have a few thou. yrs. of practice collapsing empire and re-constituting, etc.	[21:53]
mircea_popescu	not least of all, that.	[21:54]
asciilifeform	btw the mother of the girl in the film, is, clearly, standing for ussr.	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	there's no inborn fear of "chaos" in dostoyevsky's soul.	[21:54]
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truffles	dostoyevsky kindred spirit, loved to gambol 3>	[22:04]
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truffles	"human needs can never be satisfied" especially if u need 3	[22:12]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/01/majoritarian-democracy-v-repub-2014113111030117430.html	[22:30]
ozbot	Majoritarian democracy vs republican democracy - Opinion - Al Jazeera English	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	remarkable the blindness of the scholar.	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	in fact democracy is altogether tainted by its association with socialism, all over the world, and as such it is intellectually and more importantly socially bankrupt everywhere, fromn the us to switzerland	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	that the periphery is following this trend...	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	there's no space in the medium term for democracy. it's dead.	[22:31]
truffles	mp i think u would govern as a dictator true false?	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	too much work.	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	i'm already the dictator of my own harem and that's more than anyone else seems to be doing, so. catch up.	[22:33]
truffles	u prefer puppet mastering ?	[22:33]
truffles	i did i took jab at it scroll up	[22:34]
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mircea_popescu	no i mean, let other people catch up, put in the work, master their own harems	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	why should i bite more than is convenient.	[22:36]
truffles	is there that many women around	[22:36]
mircea_popescu	nobody ordained a harem has to be women.	[22:36]
truffles	ohhhh	[22:36]
pankkake	ponies?	[22:36]
mircea_popescu	whatever floats your boat.	[22:36]
truffles	its enough work looking after my pets and my partner	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	aite.	[22:37]
truffles	gl to the adventureous ppl	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	so now you see my sentiment exactly.	[22:37]
truffles	i see u as only providing the finances and the sex though	[22:38]
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mircea_popescu	obviously that's a naive view.	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	i provide the intellectual leadership first and foremost, wherever i go.	[22:39]
truffles	the irc image doesnt let me go further	[22:39]
truffles	ha	[22:39]
mircea_popescu	i daresay it's not the irc image.	[22:39]
truffles	or the one ive imaged u to be	[22:39]
jurov	truffles perhaps you don't read trilema?	[22:39]
truffles	nope	[22:39]
truffles	i cant get past 1st few sentences	[22:40]
jurov	there you go	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	i provide the trilema leadership!	[22:40]
truffles	i did say the irc image	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	wait i mean readership	[22:40]
jurov	hehe	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	readelship	[22:40]
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truffles	maybe consider a ghost writer?	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[22:41]
jurov	writer who doesn't read? there are sooo many of them	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	jurov it'd go with a "reader" that's too lazy to think. we could build trufflesenema	[22:41]
truffles	why	[22:42]
mircea_popescu	.d	[22:42]
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jurov	why why	[22:42]
truffles	i provide solutions	[22:43]
truffles	yall provide backhanded insults pfff	[22:43]
jurov	lmaooooo.. i looked up enema and it said it's clyster	[22:43]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:43]
jurov	that's helluva solution, yea	[22:43]
mircea_popescu	jurov enema = rectal irrigation	[22:43]
truffles	id wonder about a straight man getting things up the butt	[22:44]
jurov	you just provide the solution. i see	[22:45]
truffles	i doeth	[22:45]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:45]
Apocalyptic	i provide solutions // why don't I see any	[22:45]
mircea_popescu	truffles what if it were a straight woman getting things up the butt ? would you still worry ?	[22:46]
truffles	solutions to crush u sir!	[22:46]
truffles	i didnt think u were around	[22:46]
Apocalyptic	may well be	[22:46]
truffles	15 mins?	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	According to Claude de Rouvroy, duc de Saint-Simon, clysters were so popular at the court of King Louis XIV of France that the duchess of Burgundy had her servant give her a clyster in front of the King (her modesty being preserved by an adequate posture) before going to the comedy. However, he also mentions the astonishment of the King and Mme de Maintenon that she should take it before them.	[22:47]
truffles	mp i dunno	[22:47]
jurov	truffles: anus is full of nerve endings... it just depends how one has them wired up	[22:48]
truffles	rules on this matter might differ from men n women	[22:48]
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mircea_popescu	wait, no more equality ?	[22:49]
jurov	what rules? can you elaborate?	[22:49]
truffles	semantics...	[22:49]
truffles	anyways i just said it is questionable	[22:50]
mircea_popescu	anyway, fun fact : emergency enema is one of the best way to provide emergency fluid support for people in dire straights (massive hemorrhage etc). it's much safer than intravenous support, doesn't require sterile gear etc.	[22:50]
jurov	so duchess of Burgundy was in need of emergency hydration, it's clear now	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:53]
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mircea_popescu	de maintenon made her cry too much foir too long	[22:53]
truffles	so its normal for yall to just stick things up random places huh	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	tbh, i always pictured you with a silly goatee and a prince albert truffles	[22:54]
truffles	haha	[22:54]
truffles	im pretty conservative	[22:54]
jurov	pretty and conservative?	[22:57]
jurov	that's kinda hot	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	you defiler you.	[22:57]
truffles	yea its hard to shake the christian roots	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	i thought xtians invented the buttplay.	[23:00]
truffles	never seen that spelling	[23:03]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.realitatea.net/caz-cutremurator-la-iasi-si-au-vandut-virginitatea-pentru-haine-de-iarna_1360418.html	[23:18]
mircea_popescu	teenagers sell virginity for warm winter clothing.	[23:18]
truffles	how much did u pay?	[23:18]
mircea_popescu	me ? pay ?!	[23:20]
truffles	u just take it??	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	lol you should work for dailymail.	[23:22]
truffles	yea i should right	[23:22]
truffles	i always spend 5 more mins than i want to on their site	[23:23]
jurov	you can write something like "romanian billionaire bought virginity with warmm clothing"	[23:23]
jurov	ohhh that didn't came exactly right :D	[23:24]
truffles	oh its billionaire now?	[23:24]
jurov	the more the merrier	[23:24]
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truffles	'I gave my husband a kidney to save his life. Then he dumped me. Now I want it BACK' hmmm	[23:30]
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truffles	"Doves released at the Vatican as a gesture of peace immediately fall prey to a vicious seagull and crow" haha	[23:33]
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pankkake	in other news, satanists replacing goat imagery by seagull imagery	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	i bet you the crow was the leader in that team	[23:46]
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