Forum logs for 23 May 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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cazalla bit more drama added to the roger ver post http://qntra.net/2015/05/six-months-in-okcoin-relinquish-control-of-bitcoin-com/ [00:52]
trinque "The contract was signed between Mr. Ver and “OKCoin”, failing to detail the legal entity with which Mr. Ver entered into a contractual agreement with." << hilarious [00:59]
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cazalla no need for a gpg contract either so now who knows if okcoin doctored up a new contract or not [01:06]
cazalla instead he's got the identifying wood, yep it's wood guy analysing the signatures on each contract [01:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75445 @ 0.00028048 = 21.1608 BTC [-] {2} [01:11]
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cazalla there goes scoopbot again.. so long, fucknaut [01:24]
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cazalla_scoop http://qntra.net/2015/05/vietnams-ministry-of-justice-suffers-ransomware-attack/ [01:57]
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decimation heh $630 [02:05]
decimation the ransomers are clever, not asking too much [02:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92400 @ 0.0002777 = 25.6595 BTC [-] {2} [02:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00029207 = 2.4972 BTC [+] [02:37]
mats http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-05-2015#1140429 << wait... this makes it easy to factor phi [02:41]
assbot Logged on 20-05-2015 15:03:07; assbot: Logged on 20-05-2015 00:29:41; mod6: take a look at this: http://dpaste.com/0SQPBKC.txt Is there any reason when allocating the space for p & q to do Eulers totient they would initialize the space with 'p' and 'p', instead of 'p' & 'q'? [02:41]
mats i'm not caught up on logs but someone else noticed this right [02:41]
ben_vulpes fucknaut lol [02:46]
ben_vulpes dafuq did you write that thing in, williamdunne? [02:47]
ben_vulpes whoa williamdunne not around? [02:47]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell williamdunne wither scoopbot this time? [02:48]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:48]
mats with some independent verification it looks like everything up to .19 is broken as released [02:48]
mats someone tell me i'm wrong [02:49]
ben_vulpes !up pete_dushenski [02:52]
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pete_dushenski thanks ben_vulpes ! [02:52]
ben_vulpes mats: i think the qualified are all taking the weekend off [02:52]
pete_dushenski guten morgen von zurich :) [02:52]
mats how is it possible this has escaped audit all this time [02:52]
ben_vulpes we are all lazy shitstains? [02:52]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes more bloggin ? good on ya. [02:53]
ben_vulpes eh i post photos [02:53]
ben_vulpes been doing that since i was like 14 or something [02:54]
ben_vulpes have been derping at a bit about mad max but i don't know if i'll ever poop it out [02:54]
ben_vulpes it's not an entirely unredeemable piece of ableist propaganda [02:54]
pete_dushenski join the movie review club ;) [02:54]
ben_vulpes dude i don't know that i care enough [02:55]
pete_dushenski well i dunno either but the cool kids are definitely doing it. [02:55]
ben_vulpes a movie and a beer is a nice way to put my brain into idle for 3 hours but after that i don't really want to waste any more cycles on the pulp [02:55]
ben_vulpes kinda have a lot on my plate atm [02:56]
ben_vulpes plus keypocalypse [02:56]
ben_vulpes fluffypony's tripping around eu, you're derping around vbc and now eu, asciilifeform's off to the woods for the weekend, mircea_popescu's on permananent unvacation [02:57]
ben_vulpes i'm like "a long weekend! i can get some /work/ done!" [02:57]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes let's stick with our division of labour then : you write code and generally solve the world's problems... [02:58]
ben_vulpes paha [02:58]
pete_dushenski i'll travel around, write about things, and comment on things other people are actually doing [02:58]
ben_vulpes glhf™® [02:59]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell mircea_popescu haven't read dali's life. you mean like this http://www.amazon.ca/Dali-Biography-Meredith-Etherington-Smith/dp/1856191648/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1432360530&sr=8-1&keywords=dali+biography or something else ? [02:59]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:59]
pete_dushenski brb [03:00]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski "The Secret Life of Salvador Dalí" in english [03:02]
mircea_popescu not some derpy woman's concotion [03:03]
mats 16:20:27 <+mircea_popescu> how goes mats ? << i'm taking a two week vacation so it'll be on hold for a bit [03:03]
mircea_popescu aha [03:04]
ben_vulpes vacation [03:04]
ben_vulpes what's that [03:05]
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mats pacific beach [03:10]
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mats so, phi is kept secret, but i'm not familiar enough with theory to know the implications [03:17]
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mircea_popescu who ? [03:22]
ben_vulpes !up pete_dushenski [03:23]
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mircea_popescu trinque meanwhile he died! [03:29]
mircea_popescu cazalla such lolcows these ppls. [03:29]
mircea_popescu i'm not caught up on logs but someone else noticed this right << not publicly. [03:30]
mircea_popescu how is it possible this has escaped audit all this time << welcome to the wunderbar world of FOSS, aka a chunk of raw meat in the sun, festering with a million grub eyes [03:31]
mats https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/5791/why-is-it-important-that-phin-is-kept-a-secret-in-rsa [03:32]
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mircea_popescu cazalla so tl;dr : ver scammed okcoin into paying for a domain name, which is as we all know NEVER worth any money. okcoin got out of original depry phase after 3 months through eithry smarting up or running out of cash. [03:35]
mircea_popescu cripplefight/bitchfest as to what "should be" ensues. [03:36]
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trinque he lives [03:38]
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trinque seems like the irc part of the guy still thought he was connected to freenode [03:39]
cazalla mircea_popescu, rented it from ver.. i dunno about worthless though, most of the bitsuffix and prefixcoin sites yes but i'd think bitcoin.com has some value for just type ins if just that [03:41]
cazalla they never buy but if they do, it's in installments which they inevitably don't pay.. like btc.com [03:42]
mircea_popescu cazalla think about it. the typeins are by definition idiots. [03:42]
mircea_popescu i'd pay to be hidden from them. [03:42]
cazalla who else doesn't block ads or some pay per install type shit? [03:43]
cazalla anyway speaking of domains.. if anyone wants bitcoinprivilege.com, it expires in a few days and imma let it drop (had my fun) [03:43]
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mircea_popescu i think this is the best thing to do - get a domain, have some lulz, let it drop, idiot "vultures" registe rit because WOW WAS USED!11 is VALUABLE!!1 [03:45]
mircea_popescu they pay for a year or five eventually go bankrupt [03:45]
mircea_popescu aquired by further fool, idem... [03:45]
mircea_popescu eventually you end up causing > 1k worth of damage to idiot party on top of everything [03:45]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu aha. 'secret life'. got it. [03:52]
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gabriel_laddel trinque: WIP, no shame in that << You followed the install guide or just (ql:quickload 'masamune)'d it? [03:54]
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gabriel_laddel trinque: but come on, gimme a sandboxed lisp-ish thing, let it grab text over sockets, draw pretty pictures on a rectangle, done << hehe yep. [03:54]
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gabriel_laddel just (print some-sexpr wotnet-stream) and (read wotnet-stream) all the way [03:55]
gabriel_laddel trinque: what I'd do is try to land a client that gives no shits about masamune, but needs something it can do << I plan on approaching both. But yes, to restrict oneself to those who Lisp is braindamaged - people who know nothing about computer programming notice when software works well and will happily pay for something that doesn't break, get h [03:55]
gabriel_laddel acked etc. [03:55]
gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: ben_vulpes in particular it's unclear to me how wise the "licenses" angle is for a serenissima derivative. while i declined to anull IP when diametric asked earlier, i am very very far from any sort of belief that the current model of that stack of stupidity has any sort of hope for survival. << i figured (perhaps stupi [03:56]
gabriel_laddel dly) that IP would take the form of gpg signatures on "i will not send this code around to anyone else", unenforceable just like the rest of the gpg contracts << Correct. [03:56]
gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: y'can't, i know. << oh I wouldn't say that. [03:57]
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ben_vulpes oh you solved drm? [03:57]
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gabriel_laddel Nope, just don't sell to people who share your bits [03:57]
ben_vulpes iirc that conversation carried the context of hard guarantees. [03:57]
gabriel_laddel the DRM crowd wants is both ways - they want to sell to everyone and to have them not be able to share it [03:57]
ben_vulpes 'tis an honor and honesty thing. [03:58]
gabriel_laddel yeah [03:58]
mircea_popescu interesting point this. yes the drm crowd wants contradictory things [03:58]
mircea_popescu not persuaded taking that away is enough to fix drm tho [03:58]
gabriel_laddel I don't know how to get a hard guarantee, so don't. It becomes a "state secret" sort of situation at that point. [03:58]
ben_vulpes is drm actually implementable? [03:58]
ben_vulpes gabriel_laddel: that's where i land [03:59]
gabriel_laddel The problem with the DRM crowd is that nothing they have is valuable enough for someone to give a damn about maintaining the relationship. [04:00]
mircea_popescu this is also a point. amusingly enough, trilema makes more money than the mean of web properties, notwithstanding the fact that it's enforced very laxily. [04:00]
gabriel_laddel heh [04:01]
mircea_popescu but it isn't actually enough for to pay for me to be doing it. [04:01]
mircea_popescu on the oher hand, i guess i also would never starve. [04:02]
mircea_popescu the problem you have, however, is one of externalities. say A, B and C are your customers, and yes for them giving your stuff away is -ev if you know about it. [04:03]
mircea_popescu except if D proposes to get it for half price and not tell you, they are now +ev [04:04]
mircea_popescu and you can't find out, because they all deny. [04:04]
mircea_popescu and from D it goes to E and soon enough it's free, at which point everyone loses the -ev counter-incentive. [04:04]
mircea_popescu traditionally this is solved with watermarking, but that only works on idiots and catpictures. you can't watermark code. [04:04]
gabriel_laddel ^ actually... [04:05]
mircea_popescu (i suppose you could, if you were very devious [04:05]
mircea_popescu name a class HerpyClass in one version and Herpy_Class in another [04:05]
mircea_popescu but this is too fucking laborious. [04:05]
mircea_popescu of course you could use a "32 char hash" convention for all your entities [04:06]
mircea_popescu then just alter the salt. [04:06]
mircea_popescu hm. [04:06]
mircea_popescu wow. [04:06]
mircea_popescu ya you CAN actually watermark code. [04:06]
mircea_popescu who knew. [04:06]
gabriel_laddel me [04:06]
mircea_popescu course, they could just edit the names to some random hash of their own. [04:06]
mircea_popescu which may be more work than they're willing to put into it, but still, would kill your drm like it kills that stupid "sound security" thing we discussed a coupla weeksa ago [04:07]
gabriel_laddel we don't need DRM, we just need to know who leaked which code [04:07]
mircea_popescu you woukdn't tho. [04:08]
mircea_popescu before i leak it i just hash all entity names with a "fuck gabby" salt [04:08]
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gabriel_laddel how do you know how I've watermarked it? [04:08]
mircea_popescu i can see the 32 bit hash names. [04:08]
gabriel_laddel This isn't the only way to go about watermarking code though. [04:09]
gabriel_laddel yes, someone may discover your watermark [04:09]
mircea_popescu but code being by its nature code, i have a firm guarantee that i can wipe your watermark out. [04:09]
mircea_popescu by transforming everything that's not required by the machine. [04:09]
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mircea_popescu all names hashed, all spaces removed, etc. [04:10]
mircea_popescu (comments count as spaces) [04:10]
gabriel_laddel and people are going to download and use this? [04:10]
mircea_popescu this is a drastically degraded version ofthe code tho, i readily grant [04:10]
mircea_popescu yeah, the result is not worthless. [04:10]
gabriel_laddel rather than paying for my version? [04:10]
mircea_popescu yeah, the result is not worthless. << i mean, the result of this convo, re code watermarking, even if notperfect is still not worthless. [04:11]
ben_vulpes it verges on obfuscation, and at that point one may as well deliver a binary for all the "fits in head"ness it'll have. [04:11]
gabriel_laddel if some bastardized version of our shared bits shows up a torrents site I can maintain your account with me accordingly [04:11]
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ben_vulpes i may be insane but i think a large fraction of the value in delivered code is that others can read and mod it. [04:11]
gabriel_laddel ^ yep [04:12]
ben_vulpes but it would be trivial to change one random symbol name per client license [04:12]
ben_vulpes or several, but unique across clients [04:12]
ben_vulpes and then they have the problem of "what was it before" [04:12]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes he would just build a list of things to change and change them all. [04:12]
gabriel_laddel sure, start there when selling to idiots, for big contracts scale accordingly [04:12]
ben_vulpes so no not impossible, or low value, or necessary even to destroy the code [04:12]
mircea_popescu entries like "add blank space after dots in following positions" or etc [04:12]
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gabriel_laddel or even slightly different versions for large clients, with different libs [04:13]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: i don't follow, sorry [04:13]
gabriel_laddel like actually different functions [04:13]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes he would maintain a list of places where he can change things [04:13]
mircea_popescu and then just make a hash and interpret it as bitflips over that list [04:13]
ben_vulpes you mean everywhere? [04:13]
mircea_popescu yes. [04:13]
mircea_popescu bit 1 : presence or absence of space after dot at position x y [04:13]
ben_vulpes sure, if it's worth your time to resell the thing after writing a transform for it... [04:14]
mircea_popescu bit 2 : name of function x [04:14]
mircea_popescu on it goes. [04:14]
mircea_popescu then as a licensee you DONT know what you need to transform to wipe the watermark, so you have to transform... "everything". which results in a turd, which as he says, who the fuck will want that. [04:14]
ben_vulpes anyways, this is sort of a 'club' for code. it'd never stop a smart or determined attacker, but it renders the cost of the heist somewhat higher than i warrant many would pay. [04:15]
mircea_popescu seems the sort of meta-prograsmming task for which lisp was invented anyway. keep your code as a s-expr of the code you deliver. [04:15]
gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: someone has to be out to get you at that point, and yeah [04:15]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the cost of properly stealing his code would be i guess log n [04:16]
gabriel_laddel if you end up in a war for any reason, well... idk, tough [04:16]
mircea_popescu where n is the cost of just writing it [04:16]
ben_vulpes wow how'd you make that estimate? [04:16]
ben_vulpes aha [04:16]
ben_vulpes heh durr [04:16]
mircea_popescu :p [04:16]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell mthreat https://laalameda.wordpress.com/tag/prostibulo/ << check out the drama surrounding that derpy bar in recoletta. [04:19]
gribble The operation succeeded. [04:19]
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mircea_popescu http://traackr.com/ dude all these web 2.1 bullshits, where you can't even establish wtf they're supposedly doing AT ALL. [04:28]
gabriel_laddel a world without the WoT is just silly [04:30]
mircea_popescu srsly. [04:30]
mircea_popescu incidentally, the people here are really fucking derpy, for many reasons. one of which - all the clubs where kids go are like 100sq ft. literally. [04:31]
mircea_popescu crowded as all shit and stupid. [04:31]
mircea_popescu meanwhile the garages are what, > 10k sqft. no exceptions. acreworth. [04:31]
mircea_popescu so i was all like man, ima buy a garage and make a fucking disco. own this town. [04:32]
mircea_popescu and my next through was... and in order to get in, a dude has to be in wot. [04:32]
mircea_popescu win. [04:32]
gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-05-2015#1141493 [04:32]
assbot Logged on 21-05-2015 04:44:16; mircea_popescu: " more mice than meaningful social roles. With more and more peers to defend against" << that's the hot core of failure. [04:32]
gabriel_laddel so wait, you actually bought a disco in ar? [04:32]
gabriel_laddel I fully expect WoT enabled housing and clubs btw [04:33]
mircea_popescu yup. [04:33]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel nah, i'm not buying anything until they get fucked [04:33]
mircea_popescu atm they're living in this lala-land where they're like, a country. [04:33]
mircea_popescu let income shave a zero and real estate shave two, we can talk. [04:34]
mircea_popescu not like any of them are worth even 10% of what they pretend they're getting paid today anyway. [04:34]
gabriel_laddel ugh, earth is fucking gay [04:34]
gabriel_laddel the collapse can't come quick enough [04:35]
mircea_popescu the notion that the average argentine derp is worth 1k/year in salary is ludicrous. they're white, yes, but otherwise the skilset is on par with sierra leone [04:35]
mircea_popescu rural economy, they're all peasants. [04:35]
gabriel_laddel amazing - they have a port city and two nuclear reactors [04:35]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [04:35]
mircea_popescu few dollars/day is adequate. [04:36]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel so do the ukrainians. [04:36]
gabriel_laddel tbh, any country could really become the center of the universe provided they stop being idiots [04:36]
gabriel_laddel the bar is so very low [04:36]
mircea_popescu yet they don't think 100 bucks / month is too low, or that apartments should go for > 10k a pop. [04:36]
mircea_popescu this much is true. [04:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38150 @ 0.00028702 = 10.9498 BTC [-] [05:07]
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cazalla https://twitter.com/bitcointalk/status/602017247788343296 [05:35]
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felipelalli hi my gang of noise friends!! I wrote a new article in my blog: https://yeppudaproductions.wordpress.com/2015/05/22/a-fabulosa-ilha-bitcoin/ - not sure if it will be good with Google Translate but, give a try! Feel free if you want to translate / make the final review to English and publish it anywhere. See you!! [06:45]
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Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, re your last trilema article 1 is not a prime number [08:43]
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mircea_popescu it isn't ? [09:16]
mircea_popescu http://plarium.com/en/strategy-games/stormfall-age-of-war/?in=aW52aXRlcj0xMTAzMTY2MSxyZWNlaXZlcj1TdG9ybWZhbGxFbixzaT0sLjE2Mzg3MjhmMWY4ZGNkZDkyMTk3ZmFjZDZjYmFlYzY50#/signup << random browser game of the day [09:16]
Apocalyptic mircea, nah it breaks a couple of things if you count it among primes, besides not satisfying the usual definition [09:18]
mircea_popescu well it certainly ain't composite... [09:19]
mircea_popescu anyway. matter of definition [09:20]
Apocalyptic I would be curious to see any definition considering 1 as prime, it would mean you no longer have the fundamental theorem of arithmetic [09:22]
Apocalyptic and yeah it's certainly not composite either [09:23]
* mircea_popescu gets off his lazy butt and fixes his article [09:23]
cazalla mircea_popescu, i swear i saw this shit advertised on tv.. ctrl+w'd [09:31]
cazalla hmm some other shit called game of war with kate upton [09:33]
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jurov re:watermark code - did this once, we inserted random stuff and alterations into comments, esp. javadoc [10:12]
jurov can't be really used if these are stripped [10:13]
jurov but i dunno if it was ever tested in battle [10:13]
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kakobrekla >This site may not display correctly in Internet Explorer 10. We recommend using IE 9 or another browser. [11:24]
kakobrekla thats new. [11:24]
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Hasimir mircea_popescu, I ran asciilifeform's litmus.py script against all the keys in my gpg 1.4 keyring and got 9 hits, the oldest of which belongs to the PGP time stamp service and was made in 1995 [12:42]
Hasimir btw, that's an error rate of approximately 0.1% [12:43]
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Adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-05-2015#1144320 << in plain and simple asslish, when you include the multiplicative identity as a prime, you no longer have unique prime factorizations, because you can raise the identity to any power and get the same product [13:03]
assbot Logged on 23-05-2015 12:18:51; Apocalyptic: I would be curious to see any definition considering 1 as prime, it would mean you no longer have the fundamental theorem of arithmetic [13:03]
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gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-05-2015#1143981 << It seems to me that the question is, "why have people selling computers preloaded with their software failed (Apple does this, but their computers are braindamaged, a failure by 'design')?" Interpretation: all companies in this space occupy a position in "uncanny valley". If you look at e.g [13:25]
gabriel_laddel ., the System76 site, they advertise that "Ubuntu Server is easy to set up and lightweight, including only what you need out of the box. It’s powerfully extended with thousands of commercial and open source server applications.". They have the opportunity to piss all over portability, bring something alien to earth and... they don't know what to do [13:25]
gabriel_laddel with it. As such, their product ends up as a label change from Windows/OSX to "phree1!" software. Impotence is boring, nobody cares. [13:25]
assbot Logged on 22-05-2015 21:34:19; trinque: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel "I see no reason I can't sell computers pre-loaded with Masamune." be careful, you're underestimating the colossal difficulty of this and there are old skeletons on old battlefields that thought the same. *do you have the connections to make these sales to big businesses, militaries, private schools, and so on?* [13:25]
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gabriel_laddel Finishing that thought: supporting everything for everyone is simply too much work. Abandoning this seriously reduces the workload on one's organization. Of course, it remains to be seen the degree to which this is a competitive advantage. [13:42]
jurov you like listening to yourself, don't you? [13:47]
jurov so...just find your niche [13:48]
gabriel_laddel jurov: I'm responding (belatedly) to log messages directed at me, apologies if it's bothering you. [13:51]
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jurov no apologies needed, i just got an impression you're restating the obvious repeatedly [13:53]
jurov what is this masamune thing? [13:53]
jurov and you can sell computers preloaded without needig big investment, if you find a niche where you can considerably improve their process [13:55]
jurov even then, they'll most likely ask you about just adding it on top of osx/windows [13:55]
jurov what do you do with that? [13:55]
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jurov !up gabriel_laddel ^ check the log [13:57]
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gabriel_laddel jurov: masamune is a WIP source-only linux distro with a sane set of defaults and 'scaffolding' for conducting research, business. [14:08]
gabriel_laddel and you can sell computers preloaded without needig big investment, if you find a niche where you can considerably improve their process << this is true. [14:08]
gabriel_laddel even then, they'll most likely ask you about just adding it on top of osx/windows << yeah, this is in part why I'll have to target individuals [14:09]
gabriel_laddel MP has asked that I 'get a blog', and it is probably the proper format for detailing the sales / marketing strategy. If I decide to follow up on this thread I'll do so there. [14:10]
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jurov "research, businees" is very wide definition [14:45]
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mircea_popescu Hasimir aha. [15:39]
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jurov ! ascii_modem [15:44]
jurov !up ascii_modem [15:44]
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ascii_modem ty jurov [15:44]
ascii_modem mats: my current understanding is that the turd in gpg2 is a malloc and doesn't leak phi. crashable bug though, & deserves closer look [15:46]
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ascii_modem (p and q almost certainly fit in same number of 'limbs') [15:47]
ascii_modem Hasimir: did you 'litmus' for weirdmods, giant-pub-e, or both at once? [15:49]
mircea_popescu o look it's an alf! [15:51]
ascii_modem mircea_popescu: you can download the product & try dividing by your symmetric things now! no need to wait for me [15:51]
mircea_popescu ah, but if it gets added in it'll serve against future keys too [15:51]
ascii_modem nono [15:51]
mircea_popescu ? [15:51]
ascii_modem on local box [15:51]
ascii_modem use python repl or whatever [15:52]
ascii_modem paste product in aha [15:52]
* mircea_popescu doesn't want to do this because then he'll fuck it all up. [15:52]
ascii_modem use any lang with bignums [15:52]
ascii_modem multiply back to test [15:53]
mircea_popescu hm ? [15:53]
ascii_modem hard to screw up because easy to check answr [15:54]
mircea_popescu i think we're talking about different things. idea was, it'd be useful to add these in for the future keys [15:54]
mircea_popescu which may run into one of those fragged factors [15:54]
ascii_modem ah, that - later [15:54]
mircea_popescu well yes, at some point [15:55]
ascii_modem !s primorial [15:55]
assbot 0 results for 'primorial' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=primorial [15:55]
ascii_modem gotta go [15:55]
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