Forum logs for 23 Jul 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: '¡A las Barricadas! ¡A las Barricadas! por el triunfo de la Confederación.' (tm) (r) [00:21]
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mircea_popescu o which reminds me. [00:21]
BingoBoingo lol asciilifeform [00:22]
mircea_popescu re "And so a better example for Syriza to follow, were they to suddenly stop being Europe's pathetic poodles and don the mantle of fearless, heroic revolutionaries, is still the good old Russian revolution of 1917." << one willing to eat up this dollop should best remember that socialist revolution failed. [00:23]
asciilifeform Alza la bandera revolucionaria... [00:23]
mircea_popescu it failed when che tried it abroad, and humiliatingly. it failed in castro's hands, at home. [00:23]
mircea_popescu it failed in moscow as it failed in beijing - the successors are today more capitalist than hamilton, and for good reason. [00:24]
asciilifeform eh that's sorta like saying that 'forest fire failed' - because there are still, somewhere, trees. [00:24]
mircea_popescu socialism is still the doctrine of unadorned stupid, and it's still this in large things as it is this in small things - be it revolution or your daily dealings. stupid stays stupid. [00:24]
* asciilifeform admires the audacity and virility of che et al separately from the peculiar follies of 20th c. mega-empires [00:25]
mircea_popescu sure. [00:25]
asciilifeform the 'blade of grass in the concrete' [00:26]
mircea_popescu who'd women fuck screamingly is a good proxy for quality [00:26]
asciilifeform to borrow a mircea_popescuism [00:26]
mircea_popescu but it's notreally the same thing. just an exam [00:26]
asciilifeform brezhnevobama - the concrete, yes [00:26]
asciilifeform che - no. [00:26]
asciilifeform grass. [00:26]
* BingoBoingo was kinda sad when mega fire did not hit during mega drought year of 2012 here. Would have been good for the Morels. [00:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but the virility, audacity etc aside, and the guy's very seductive smile aside - he wasn't very intelligent. [00:29]
mircea_popescu this is a problem. and, much more importantly - he failed. he failed uniformly, predictably, throughout. hard to see past this. [00:29]
asciilifeform the intelligent are sitting in some cellar, cranking out nth numerical approximations to schrodinger's eq. for system of five atoms. [00:30]
asciilifeform not cutting throats [00:30]
mircea_popescu meanwhile any random mexican cartel owner is right now out of jail and if he's in he's running a brothel of the guards. [00:30]
mircea_popescu this is patently untrue. [00:30]
decimation managed to get loads of betas in frats to wear his face [00:30]
mircea_popescu decimation this is already suspicious. [00:30]
mircea_popescu haven't seen that many lambs in lion tshirts so far. [00:31]
asciilifeform i am broadly unconvinced that mr cartel is in any sense more intelligent than che. more narrowly focused, yes. [00:31]
mircea_popescu i was speaking as to success. [00:31]
mircea_popescu intelligence is a more... spiritual problem. [00:31]
trinque I'm not much convinced che's anything other than a celebrity [00:31]
trinque *was [00:31]
trinque or that populist movements like that are at all desirable [00:32]
mircea_popescu right. i suppose to bring this to an edge, we could ask alf to explain difference between jack warner and clark gable in terms of che. [00:32]
mircea_popescu so whioch is he ? gable also had a "very seductive smile". [00:32]
mircea_popescu and died broke if memory serves. [00:32]
asciilifeform trinque: getting killed by a dedicated usg death squad is an exam of sorts. can one pass this exam and not be someone worth considering ? [00:32]
trinque eh I could get myself done that way this evening if I wanted [00:32]
trinque hehe [00:32]
trinque but I see what you mean [00:33]
asciilifeform DEDICATED [00:33]
asciilifeform not some street cop [00:33]
asciilifeform as in, folks who board five unmarked planes to get to where you're dug in [00:33]
trinque I will admit to reading about various revolutions over the years wondering "where's mine?" [00:33]
* BingoBoingo actually pretty pumped about hearing tomorrow [00:33]
* asciilifeform has been wondering this since he was 4 y.o [00:33]
decimation more likely: haho jump from the next border [00:33]
mircea_popescu srsly ?! [00:33]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you gonna blog about it ? [00:33]
trinque asciilifeform: need "force amplifier" like your "mind amplifier" and forget about the derps [00:34]
trinque I don't think anything good can come of anything which requires populist buy-in [00:34]
decimation revolution is the last thing anyone should want [00:34]
asciilifeform address all inquiries re: force multipliers to herr tesla [00:34]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The aftermath likely. Dun want to tip the hand too early. [00:34]
decimation a bunch of crazy egotist adventurers taking power [00:34]
mircea_popescu trinque the better q, of course, being what are you going to say ? [00:35]
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mircea_popescu this entire "my revolution" thing seems to me a lot like "i wanna be on a stage, like carlin!" well ok. and to say what ? [00:35]
trinque mircea_popescu: mhm, and I don't claim at this moment to have a proposal [00:35]
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asciilifeform 'populist buy-in' is what we have now. [00:35]
mircea_popescu then why'd you care ? [00:35]
mircea_popescu a lot of thankless, boring work, that. [00:35]
phf revolutions look like fun though, "we were trully free on the barricades", that's why all those bored aristocrats would travel to third world countries, if they failed to start shit up at home. positive long term effects not so much [00:35]
decimation I like this 'new barbarian' guy [00:35]
asciilifeform ^ [00:35]
mircea_popescu phf they ARE fun, yes. but only for the stupid. [00:35]
asciilifeform see also limonov [00:35]
mircea_popescu organised crime is also fun. also for the stupid. [00:36]
trinque mircea_popescu: I'm gonna die anyway, and this sucks. [00:36]
decimation follow his advice, be tribal, give less of a shit about govt [00:36]
asciilifeform what trinque said. [00:36]
asciilifeform and limonov was there in 1995. [00:36]
asciilifeform even re: the 'tribal' bit. [00:36]
mircea_popescu this is all fine, but there's a bridge between "my cunt itches" and "i'm married now" [00:36]
mircea_popescu is there even ? [00:36]
trinque hahaha [00:36]
asciilifeform very easy to 'give less of a shit about govt' all the way until you find yourself trying the 'be tribal' thing in a usg death camp. [00:37]
mircea_popescu see ? not so fun for the stupid. "true freedom" comes from a neglect of consequences. [00:37]
trinque I figure I'll keep educating myself and getting ahead, and see what happens in a decade. [00:37]
phf i move few blocks away from where they burned down MOVE compound. though those guys were genuinely .. not quite there [00:37]
mircea_popescu whosoever can not do this is stuck being a bureaucrat not a revolutionary, no mattert the context. [00:37]
decimation meh. usg doesn't have the energy to startup death camps [00:38]
decimation and they would likely be easy to escape [00:38]
asciilifeform they are already in business [00:38]
mircea_popescu decimation obviously trhey'd be outsourced. [00:38]
asciilifeform go escape from fed pen. [00:38]
mircea_popescu the 100 mn business majors looking to change the world in the US notably ARE energetic enough to run macdonalds. [00:38]
BingoBoingo mircea I mean https://archive.is/ChrKw happened. I don't want to say "civil case" may be in the pipes, but... thank scientology http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/slap-can.htm [00:38]
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mircea_popescu death camps are nothing compared. [00:38]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo need some dough to press that [00:38]
decimation well, keep the local da as part of your tribe :) [00:38]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Or time. [00:39]
mircea_popescu heh [00:39]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209919 << lmao ok. [00:39]
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mircea_popescu "sociology of the theatre" ? such deadly refinement by now. [00:39]
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mircea_popescu i am bracving myself for the "sociology of sociologists of obscure fields" phd. [00:40]
phf mircea_popescu: i see now what you mean by "for the stupid", re "neglect of consequences". i always thought that was a character flaw though, not necessarily sign of intelligence [00:40]
trinque mircea_popescu: I think seeing the world as it is, one imagines there could be another where there are leaders with as you say, interesting things to do [00:40]
mircea_popescu a lot could be said about it, let aside that nobodyu'd care, so why shouldn't a phd be offered ? once it's offered, why should it wear a red striope in its id, "this shit's pointless nutso stuff fopr rich people" ? [00:40]
asciilifeform mno [00:40]
mircea_popescu and then get clueless working cl;ass kids thinking "it's theiur calling" because totally, that's how the world works, with "Callings" [00:41]
mircea_popescu phf well if you can explain the difference between these two... [00:41]
mircea_popescu trinque not for most people. [00:41]
asciilifeform actual revolution means that 25 y.o. schmuck can transform to commander with personal death authority over ten thousand. [00:41]
asciilifeform overnight. [00:41]
mircea_popescu authority, sure. [00:41]
asciilifeform this is appealing for perfectly reasonable, if not practical, reasons. [00:41]
mircea_popescu random derp who inherits a wall street firm, also authority. [00:42]
asciilifeform random derp 'chose parents carefully' [00:42]
mircea_popescu which brings us right back to, "what do you wish to say, anyway" [00:42]
decimation it's possible the derp could be Napoleon [00:42]
mircea_popescu because, mind, if you actually got something to say might as well say it. [00:42]
mircea_popescu and if you don't, why even bother with the trappings. [00:42]
mircea_popescu ;;google monty python "the theory which is mine" [00:43]
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asciilifeform trying to formulate a hypothesis here [00:43]
mircea_popescu aite. [00:43]
* mircea_popescu is all ears. [00:43]
asciilifeform re: what is appealing about violent upheavals [00:43]
asciilifeform for the 'armchair general' [00:43]
mircea_popescu ah, that's plainly obvious. they;'re appealing like rape is appealing. their bloody violence is sexually satisfying. [00:43]
decimation it's appeal to Napoleon to finally rule the world [00:43]
asciilifeform the idea of biodieseling the sclerotic aristos and their imbecile offspring is appealing to healthy folks, imho [00:44]
trinque doesn't my being embedded in the world necessitate being concerned with its state? [00:44]
trinque if I care about myself in the slightest? [00:44]
asciilifeform for the same reason why pink prime gurlflesh is more appealing than the circus horrors BingoBoingo linked [00:45]
decimation asciilifeform: the thing tends to feed itself. the new army officer's position depends on the old officers being exiled, thus they are married to the adventure [00:45]
trinque asciilifeform: everyone likes when a shithead gets his; is laughter for anything else? [00:45]
asciilifeform is it better to be married to a desk ? [00:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so you see it's sexual. [00:46]
mircea_popescu trinque it doesn't follow you should give a shit about yourself ; it doesnt follow even admitting that the world is of interest. [00:46]
asciilifeform in more or less the same sense that all other vigorous and healthy activity is sexual [00:46]
decimation well, desk isn't as exciting, if safer [00:46]
trinque mircea_popescu: who says should, I do [00:46]
mircea_popescu ah, sure then. [00:47]
phf i guess if your life is dull, might be better to be limonov. so it's a wish fulfillment, i.e. "when the zombies come i'll be the badass survivalist guy". i'm still not sure why byron did it though [00:47]
mircea_popescu normally "necessitate" is a hidden should. [00:47]
decimation plus, maybe if the 25 year old is Napoleon you can get rich on some awesome loot [00:47]
mircea_popescu phf why byron "did it" = had a bunch of chlorotic virgins say stupid shit about him ? [00:47]
* trinque brb [00:47]
phf heh, fair [00:47]
mircea_popescu decimation sure, rich like the chiabur. [00:47]
asciilifeform when considering what byron's likely alternatives were... [00:48]
asciilifeform did not want to marry desk. i respect this. [00:48]
mircea_popescu (tk kibār, eq of rus kulak) [00:48]
decimation heh chiabur isn't english [00:49]
decimation ah [00:49]
mircea_popescu being rich isn't english either. [00:49]
asciilifeform l0l [00:49]
mircea_popescu puritan bunch [00:49]
decimation well, better kulak than starving peasant, plus you get to pillage a few neat italian cities [00:49]
asciilifeform who the hell sees the appeal of revolution in 'get rich' ?!!! [00:50]
mircea_popescu entirely up to you, this. [00:50]
asciilifeform that's a new one to me [00:50]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform what do you think el dorado was ? [00:50]
asciilifeform a treasure hunt ? [00:50]
mircea_popescu revolution for people who couldn't afford to fight the king. [00:50]
mircea_popescu what else. [00:50]
decimation asciilifeform: lol 'get rich' is almost immediately what the revolution turns into [00:50]
asciilifeform well yes. [00:50]
mircea_popescu well so then. [00:50]
asciilifeform and in many ways, that time's 'silicon valley' [00:50]
decimation once they gain power and can't figure out what else to do [00:50]
asciilifeform considering the grantsmanship that went into el doradoism [00:50]
mircea_popescu decimation no buyt see, it's an important problem. "so you're on the stage, alright now - what do you say ?" [00:51]
asciilifeform one more or less had to scam a king to play [00:51]
mircea_popescu "everyone should walk funny from now on" ? [00:51]
decimation mircea_popescu: yeah absolutely I see that [00:51]
decimation especially since 99.999% of 25 year olds are not napoleon [00:51]
mircea_popescu you're moses, up on the mountain, you're smith with his fucking stupid hat and the even more stupid but full of themselves early americans [00:51]
mircea_popescu what do you sya ? [00:51]
asciilifeform you say things like: 'you - spread yer legs.' 'you - spat on my father. spread your arse cheeks for sharpened telephone pole.' etc. [00:51]
mircea_popescu "ummir and fuckthir" ? why ? [00:51]
mircea_popescu with a straight face ? seriously ? [00:51]
mircea_popescu this is why "power corrupts", incidentally. [00:52]
mircea_popescu this will break a man. [00:52]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is not unlike street urchin's idea of wealthy [00:52]
asciilifeform i could, i think, watch telephone poles enter arses for 25 years. [00:52]
mircea_popescu "sandwich every day!" [00:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/revenge/english/e_revso << possibly [00:53]
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mircea_popescu i happen to enjoy revenge, [00:53]
mircea_popescu but i must point out that it's likely same as how i enjoy horse riding [00:53]
mircea_popescu an acquired taste. not something one can just jump into. [00:53]
mircea_popescu and that "acquired" part is a lot of time and a lot of resources and so on. [00:54]
decimation on the other hand, when raw power is rushing around - available for many to grasp - someone's hand will be strong enough to keep hold [00:54]
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mircea_popescu again, that you hold the ring is not the issue. [00:54]
mircea_popescu what do you tell it to do! [00:54]
asciilifeform the mega-appeal of revolution is, just as limonov summarized, it is a chance to trade in guaranteed-die-behind-desk for die-with-sporting-chance [00:55]
mircea_popescu sure. [00:55]
decimation invade italy; get rich, become emporer [00:55]
mircea_popescu but, provided you don't actually die. what. do. you. do. [00:55]
mircea_popescu "become emperor" is not a thing. [00:55]
decimation but then get bored and declare ware on the entire world [00:55]
mircea_popescu "lived happily ever after" [00:55]
asciilifeform mno [00:55]
phf i the wrath of god will marry my own daughter and with her i'll found the purest dynasty the earth has ever seen [00:55]
asciilifeform you play again. [00:55]
mircea_popescu it only exists from this side of the silver screen [00:55]
asciilifeform or what phf said! [00:55]
mircea_popescu phf srsly ?! [00:56]
mircea_popescu why the fuck would i want my own daughter. i suppose i should table this until i somehow have one, [00:56]
mircea_popescu but it seems a lot to me like making my own car. holy shit i'd much rather have a car someone else toiled with. [00:56]
asciilifeform making own car has appeal [00:56]
asciilifeform i've given it serious thought at times [00:56]
mircea_popescu o, i know this about you. [00:56]
phf mircea_popescu: well, the scene involves everyone being dead by that point, and aguirre just making mad proclamations on a drifting raft besieged by invisible indians [00:57]
asciilifeform ^ [00:57]
mircea_popescu problem is - you'll prolly start a revolution by first building a country. [00:57]
mircea_popescu phf ah i entirely missed this was a reference. [00:57]
asciilifeform or better yet, alive, and not being able to lift a finger, on account of them all wearing remote-switched detcord collars [00:57]
mircea_popescu such a mmorpg view of politics. [00:58]
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decimation !up Erika-Mustermann [00:58]
asciilifeform !up Erika-Mustermann [00:58]
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decimation the nordic system returns? [00:58]
mircea_popescu whossat ? [00:58]
BingoBoingo No, I though Nordic system started with a j or some shit [00:59]
decimation was gibt's? [00:59]
BingoBoingo !s Nordic System [00:59]
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decimation BingoBoingo: it has a deeper bench than that [00:59]
asciilifeform hey, this could be the ~other~ nordic system ! [00:59]
asciilifeform can hope! [00:59]
mircea_popescu you know, incidentally, im not so sure that 99.999% figure. [01:00]
mircea_popescu it may well be 14% of kids are in fact napoleon. [01:00]
asciilifeform ? [01:00]
mircea_popescu rest is luck, and having bernadotte. [01:00]
asciilifeform that's close to limonov's figure iirc [01:00]
decimation asciilifeform: isegoria did a thing on finnish baseball - looks awesome! http://www.isegoria.net/2015/07/what-finland-can-teach-america-about-baseball/ [01:00]
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mircea_popescu im enamoured with this ballas notion - 1%, 14% aspies, 85% derps. [01:00]
asciilifeform 1% who ? [01:01]
decimation mircea_popescu: certainly napoleon had an aspie-like grasp of tactics, etc [01:01]
mircea_popescu heh. know about that one time he forgot about a coupla divisions ? [01:01]
mircea_popescu or that other time when he thought he had lost and well... the officers carried ? [01:01]
BingoBoingo finnish baseball sounds like the worst! When do you go to get your next beer? [01:02]
asciilifeform when nth beer is empty [01:02]
mircea_popescu i thought finns drank fermented herring and what is this "beer". [01:02]
asciilifeform nah that's jp [01:02]
decimation he was called the 'little corporal' because he went out and sighted guns himself http://napoleonsightings.blogspot.com/2010/08/napoleon-sighting-002-little-corporal.html [01:03]
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asciilifeform phun phakt: napoleon was a closeted maths type [01:03]
mircea_popescu i occasionally set up boxes myself too. [01:03]
asciilifeform even has a theorem of his own name [01:03]
mircea_popescu alf has a good point, there IS an appeal to making own car. [01:03]
mircea_popescu there's also an appeal to cut one's own neck. [01:03]
asciilifeform http://mathworld.wolfram.com/NapoleonsTheorem.html [01:03]
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trinque I'm on a crippled device atm, but is capitalism unencumbered by the state not enough of a thing to do? [01:03]
trinque it is for me [01:04]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform sure. intelligence not impeached. just, there's this entire "genius" myth built around him because it was a particular time in the letters. [01:04]
asciilifeform aha. [01:04]
asciilifeform like every other mega-hero [01:04]
mircea_popescu trinque as a boy, i was very distraught to find from my mother that if one invents something, he doesn't merely have to say what it should be [01:04]
BingoBoingo nah that's jp << Japs introduced to baseball ways to make sure pitchers retire at the age they should just be getting interesting [01:04]
mircea_popescu but also, HOW to make it. [01:04]
asciilifeform ^ this really got me down, as a boy [01:05]
asciilifeform i also remember being told this. [01:05]
mircea_popescu i had a brilliant concept for a watch [01:05]
asciilifeform sorta assumed that grinder types would make it [01:05]
mircea_popescu steve blows stole my idea! [01:05]
asciilifeform if you told'em [01:05]
mircea_popescu see ? now that's something to envy. [01:05]
mircea_popescu this position. [01:05]
mircea_popescu fuck revolution, i want a computer that does what i mean. [01:05]
decimation ^ computer barbarism? [01:06]
asciilifeform revolution is so that you can make this 'computer' from meat. [01:06]
asciilifeform screaming, writhing meat. [01:06]
mircea_popescu you only think this works because you can't try it. [01:06]
mircea_popescu much like the alchemists of yore tricked the kings of yore [01:06]
* asciilifeform admits that can't try [01:06]
asciilifeform and yes, alchemists did not have access to fast neutrons [01:06]
mircea_popescu i can and have. it works as well as you'd expect, if you thinkj about it. [01:06]
asciilifeform may have cooled their enthusiasm, if they had [01:06]
mircea_popescu ie : when it works you didn't need it, and when it doesn't it doesn't help you anyway. [01:06]
trinque The best method I see is being more or less invisible until such time as one's wealth can be used to undermine the other thing. [01:07]
* mircea_popescu references the "for honor" thread here [01:07]
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trinque Hi, Satoshi. [01:07]
BingoBoingo The part where starting pitcher finishes game by tossing in the bullpen tends to lead to irreparable elbows. US pitchers jsut start getting interesting around 32-26, Japanese pitchers would be candidates for tommy joh 2, 3, or 4 at that age + cartiledge dammage [01:07]
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mircea_popescu trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ? [01:07]
asciilifeform trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-04-2015#1090204 [01:08]
assbot Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road. [01:08]
asciilifeform part of the reason for cutting heads is so that no one even begins to idly contemplate the notion that 'you didn't build that' [01:08]
mircea_popescu why do you care ? [01:09]
decimation lol https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erika_Mustermann [01:09]
assbot Erika Mustermann — Wikipédia ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnwEap ) [01:09]
BingoBoingo Hardest part of making own car is what to do to cool steam while parked. [01:09]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you let it out. [01:09]
asciilifeform and get new water from the spout. [01:09]
mircea_popescu ahahaha what [01:09]
asciilifeform like any decent locomotive in a civilized town. [01:10]
mircea_popescu you buildion train orcar lol [01:10]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: But then you have to feed fresh water or material gets released [01:10]
BingoBoingo From reactor of course [01:10]
asciilifeform run sodium cycle. [01:10]
asciilifeform to hell with water. [01:10]
* mircea_popescu is looking forward to his friends building own cars, will have inexhaustible supply of french fries thusly. [01:10]
decimation no, coal gas [01:10]
BingoBoingo Last time I planned car was ignorant of sodium cycling/Thorium reactors [01:11]
BingoBoingo Of course reactor goes in rear to allow for lead plate in seat backs [01:11]
phf there was a bunch of young pioneers car building clubs when i was growing up. that and model airplanes [01:12]
decimation it's my understanding that model airplanes mostly use electric engines now, no nasty 'glow gas' [01:13]
* BingoBoingo also later, in college conteplated building "Lotus 7" but remembered grander ideas. Decided was snooze. [01:13]
* asciilifeform missed all of the good stuff, but had elder brother. and thus from as old as could speak and think, already regarded civilization as a strictly past-tense affair [01:13]
asciilifeform decimation: i was quite surprised to learn that at least one of the 'self-beheading incident' model choppers was electric ! [01:14]
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asciilifeform now ^ ~that~'s progress! [01:14]
decimation heh really [01:14]
asciilifeform 'here comes a candle to light you to bed, here comes a chopper to chop off your head' (tm) (r) (orwell) [01:15]
decimation actually electric would be much better in terms of throttle response [01:16]
asciilifeform this is why there was no (afaik) petrol-fueled model 'quadcopter' [01:17]
phf decimation: i thought electric stuff is what you get in a prebuilt models, you can still buy a nitro engine [01:17]
decimation yeah no electro-mechanical throttle [01:17]
decimation phf: sure, folks still use [01:17]
decimation to me the serious business is a full four-cycle engine [01:17]
decimation lol they even make wankel engine http://ludens.cl/aeromod/wankel/wankel.html [01:18]
assbot The OS-Graupner Wankel engine ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnxpjU ) [01:18]
asciilifeform actually the real deal might be a locomotive-style drivetrain [01:18]
asciilifeform where petrol engine turns dynamo, which powers a mighty multicopter [01:19]
BingoBoingo this is why there was no (afaik) petrol-fueled model 'quadcopter' << Thought this was more because making differentials was hard [01:19]
asciilifeform mno [01:19]
asciilifeform you need rapid and extremely replicable control over thrust [01:20]
asciilifeform for the self-balancing deal [01:20]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah, that's why serious folks use turbines [01:21]
phf https://9c02d171-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/gascopter/Description/3%20diff%20with_numbers.jpg [01:22]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnxDHO ) [01:22]
decimation http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/systems/predatorb.htm < predator has turboprop [01:22]
assbot MQ-9A Predator B UAV ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnxGDv ) [01:22]
decimation plus plenty of power for electrics [01:22]
asciilifeform phf: how does this machine stay horizontal ? [01:22]
asciilifeform ailerons ? [01:22]
asciilifeform i mean, yes, it is elementarily possible to turn 1001 propellers from one engine if you wanted to [01:23]
asciilifeform but you don't get the gyroscope balancer thing [01:23]
asciilifeform where you can kick it and it stays in same place. [01:23]
phf asciilifeform: that's what it looks like, re ailerons, the image is from here http://www.gas-copter.com/Description [01:24]
assbot Description - Gas Copter ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnxRP2 ) [01:24]
asciilifeform just pointing out that the appear of the multicopters is precisely that you don't need movable aerodynamic surfaces [01:24]
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asciilifeform or much aerodynamism at all [01:24]
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asciilifeform sorta the logical maximum of 'offload complexity to software' [01:25]
phf asciilifeform: right, it's a bogus website anyway. i was more curious how differentials look on a quadcopter, and that came up [01:25]
asciilifeform pertinently, i went for a walk in nyc on saturday [01:25]
asciilifeform in time square, found a ruined toy quadcopter [01:25]
asciilifeform worth no more than fiddybux when new [01:25]
asciilifeform gave it to a phriend, who will strip away the dirt, it will fly [01:25]
asciilifeform because just about all of the complexity is in the computer. [01:25]
decimation wow predator weighs 10k pounds [01:26]
decimation that's a big aircraft [01:26]
asciilifeform empty ? [01:26]
BingoBoingo decimation: Predator follows USg school of design which created "Abrams" [01:26]
asciilifeform decimation: source for the 10k? [01:27]
decimation no full takeoff weight [01:27]
asciilifeform i think this is a 4-5x overestimate [01:27]
decimation link above ^ [01:27]
decimation "Another version of the Predator B, with a 20-ft. wing extension, started flying in late 2002. The standard MQ-9, at a takeoff weight of 10,000 lb., can carry 3,000 lb. of payload and 3,000 lb. of fuel." [01:27]
asciilifeform saw it in museum, hanging, fuselage was the size of a compact car [01:27]
decimation "The version with the wingspan extended to 86 ft., about the same as a 737 airliner, can carry 34 hr. of internal fuel. With two 1,000-lb. drop tanks and 1,000 lb. of weapons it can fly a 42-hr. mission." [01:28]
asciilifeform what's that for, nyc to afghan and back ? [01:28]
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decimation no, so they can orbit about interesting areas for a long time [01:29]
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decimation I remember watching a tv show about B-2 bomber crews. they showed a 'simulated bombing' of baghdad from nebraska [01:30]
decimation crew actually locked themselves in simluator for 40 hours [01:30]
decimation not nebraska, whitman afb in missouri [01:31]
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decimation can see one parked out front: https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B043%2758.0%22N+93%C2%B033%2717.0%22W/@38.7280112,-93.5562417,170m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 [01:34]
assbot Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnz20T ) [01:34]
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asciilifeform the infamous, original, flying goldentoilet [01:35]
decimation indeed. [01:35]
BingoBoingo not nebraska, whitman afb in missouri << Drinking with friend at University of Central Missouri we played a game of guess which middle aged air force folk were B-2 pilots [01:35]
decimation heh [01:35]
decimation sounds like a boring job, honestly [01:36]
decimation take off, fly straight for 40 hours [01:36]
asciilifeform like commercial flying bus [01:36]
decimation yeah except mil bomber probably has fewer ammenities [01:36]
BingoBoingo !b 10 [01:36]
assbot Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/254644N.txt ) [01:36]
decimation I did a tour of wwii era bombers, they were horrible places in which to spend time [01:37]
decimation tiny crawlspaces, tiny cabins [01:37]
asciilifeform https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B043'58.0%22N+93%C2%B033'17.0%22W/@38.7393126,-93.551019,96m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 << dafuq is that [01:37]
assbot Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnzmgb ) [01:37]
asciilifeform old rusty tub ? [01:37]
decimation lol [01:38]
asciilifeform https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B043'58.0%22N+93%C2%B033'17.0%22W/@38.7478733,-93.5486403,192m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 << spare noses ? [01:39]
assbot Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnzw7t ) [01:39]
decimation that is rather odd, being off the flight line [01:40]
decimation asciilifeform: ah, it's a training area for fire fighters [01:41]
decimation which it is why it is next to that pond I think [01:41]
asciilifeform https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B043'58.0%22N+93%C2%B033'17.0%22W/@38.7532816,-93.5389835,192m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 << crater ? [01:42]
assbot Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1fnzSeh ) [01:42]
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trinque mircea_popescu | trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ? << perhaps bitcoin is well upstream of anyone's revolution [01:51]
trinque and perhaps structures that are quite old and have always been there will continue to work happily, while others may wither and die [01:55]
trinque seems to be the way life reacts to environmental change [01:55]
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mircea_popescu wouldn't surprise me. [02:27]
ben_vulpes you buildion train orcar lol << notrly that bad of an idea. external combustion engine has its upsides, among them workable in 'jungle conditions;' [02:30]
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mircea_popescu i never heard of the jungle train [02:31]
ben_vulpes gasenwagen though. [02:31]
mircea_popescu huh ? [02:31]
ben_vulpes ah hm wrong reference. [02:32]
ben_vulpes low-efficiency vehicles that burned * and pushed gas through pistons? [02:32]
ben_vulpes anyways, point of junglengine is to burn whatever's around and produce rotation. i've always planned this to be a 'tesla turbine' hooked to washing machine motor for ease of fabrication. [02:33]
ben_vulpes could just as easily be stirling. [02:34]
mircea_popescu seems to me jungle is everywhere cut down by diesel engines. [02:37]
ben_vulpes ain't much diesel left. [02:37]
ben_vulpes http://www.qnergy.com/qb-stirling-engines << mega-stirling [02:38]
assbot Bonneville Stirling Engine ... ( http://bit.ly/1GFgOOn ) [02:38]
BingoBoingo plenty of diesel to be rendered from this lardberg https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/22/aee495628dfc521fa0818befa8320b24.jpg [02:44]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GFhQda ) [02:44]
BingoBoingo Moar diesel [02:44]
ben_vulpes you know BingoBoingo i think you have a thing [02:45]
ben_vulpes in the way that mircea_popescu has a thing [02:45]
mircea_popescu i hjave a thing ?! [02:45]
ben_vulpes oh don't be coy [02:45]
mircea_popescu coy's my thing! [02:45]
BingoBoingo Moar diesel https://slimgur.com/image/0A2 [02:45]
assbot Thisfatfuck - SLiMGUR ... ( http://bit.ly/1GFi43Z ) [02:46]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: I'm jsut addressing the energy crisis [02:46]
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cazalla i thought mircea_popescu's black dick tumblr shots were bad but BingoBoingo is in a league of his own [03:19]
BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/oGm9WKi.jpg [03:26]
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scoopbot_revived Eulora's largest trade to date and assorted teologico-socioeconomic considerations http://trilema.com/2015/euloras-largest-trade-to-date-and-assorted-teologico-socioeconomic-considerations/ [04:16]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210123 << especially if that x is 70% [04:19]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 01:15:25; gernika: mod6 let me know if there's anything else I can do to help with this. Would suck if x% of pogos wedged at 168001 [04:19]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile at feminisis hq, http://31.media.tumblr.com/322fdd2ccf1063c9c729a0399d8c0165/tumblr_n0w9ge4WfV1ra163eo2_250.gif [04:34]
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cazalla if BingoBoingo and mircea_popescu links had a baby http://i.imgur.com/VOVQFno.jpg [05:32]
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shinohai Jesus Christ my email is unreliable lately, I'm going to have to find something better. [10:36]
fluffypony shinohai: Facebook messaging [11:02]
* fluffypony giggles [11:02]
shinohai kek never even had a "facebook" [11:03]
shinohai twitter is about the limit of my social media presence [11:04]
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shinohai I guess I could join this shit: http://www.getcatter.com/ [11:25]
assbot Catter - The first anonymous social media network for cats ... ( http://bit.ly/1LFusHN ) [11:25]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210137 << i will repeat, i currently have no wedged nodes. even incitatus caught up yesterday and has been synced continuously since. [11:42]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 01:20:23; mod6: my one gentoo (all ascii's patches through verifyall x86-64/glibc) build got all the way up to where nsl is wedged. but my openbsd one is crawling along on verify all also... so far: height=220047 [11:42]
asciilifeform mod6: dulap (s.nsa flagship node) unwedged on july 10 when i fixed its clock. 'zoolag' was never wedged in its whole life thus far. [11:43]
asciilifeform all three nodes are currently up [11:44]
asciilifeform 366601 at this time [11:44]
asciilifeform dulap has 71 peers which is a new record. [11:44]
asciilifeform zoolag - 63 [11:44]
asciilifeform incitatus - 30 [11:44]
* shinohai will report back with another node if he can ever build the damned thing. [11:45]
kakobrekla i have 195.211.154.159:8333 and 96.241.120.166:8333 [11:45]
kakobrekla which is the third? [11:45]
asciilifeform 64.85.171.71:8333 [11:45]
kakobrekla ok ty [11:46]
asciilifeform ^ incitatus [11:46]
kakobrekla do they have any dns entries set? (i know you cant use it directly) [11:46]
asciilifeform the first 195... is nosuchlabs.com [11:46]
asciilifeform 96... - zoolag.ddns.net [11:47]
asciilifeform 64... - none [11:47]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo et al: http://cointelegraph.com/news/114943/coinmx-operators-arrested-for-running-illegal-bitcoin-exchange << qntra ? [11:48]
kakobrekla i can put a b-a.link on them ? [11:48]
assbot Coin.mx Operators Arrested for Running Illegal Bitcoin Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1LFwasC ) [11:48]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: aha [11:48]
mod6 <+asciilifeform> 366601 at this time << ah ok. i'll start mine back up later. i had shut it down because it had been on the same block for >36 hours. [11:48]
asciilifeform mod6: what was this ? [11:48]
asciilifeform as in, what was running, built how, and on what ? [11:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115214 @ 0.0005182 = 59.7039 BTC [+] {2} [11:50]
mod6 it was: gentoo x86-64 glibc: v0.5.3.1+{ these patches in this order: http://dpaste.com/1CSFS1A.txt } built with stator build script. connected to: 195.211.154.159:8333 running with verifyall - ran great up until a few days back. we discussed this. [11:52]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LFwvvs ) [11:52]
asciilifeform link to thread ? [11:53]
mod6 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209148 [11:54]
assbot Logged on 22-07-2015 01:11:24; mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, confirm that on ur one node i'm wedged at 365441 [11:54]
asciilifeform and was this an '-addnode' or a '-connect' sync ? [11:54]
mod6 -connect [11:54]
asciilifeform hm [11:54]
mod6 -connect -myip -verifyall [11:54]
mod6 i don't have much more info than that right now. can revisit later though for sure. [11:55]
kakobrekla ok, so theres now node1.b-a.link node2.b-a.link and node3.b-a.link [11:55]
asciilifeform neato [11:55]
asciilifeform i'd prefer the original names [11:55]
kakobrekla you can have both [11:56]
asciilifeform ty kakobrekla [11:56]
asciilifeform but must remind folks, no dns in therealbitcoin [11:56]
asciilifeform gotta ping'em [11:56]
kakobrekla its generally wise to avoid dns where possible [11:56]
asciilifeform aha [11:57]
kakobrekla dulap.b-a.link, incitatus.b-a.link, zoolag.b-a.link is set [12:01]
asciilifeform spiffy [12:01]
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mod6 thanks kakobrekla [12:46]
kakobrekla muh plesuar [12:46]
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shinohai mats u there b ? [13:44]
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bitstein ;;later tell pete_dushenski mazel tov! [14:20]
gribble The operation succeeded. [14:20]
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Adlai ;;later tell pete_dushenski shetizke leamlot velo lemitzvot! [14:24]
gribble The operation succeeded. [14:24]
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kakobrekla ;;later tell pete_dushenski saj ni važno kaj je, le da bo zdrav fant. [14:38]
gribble The operation succeeded. [14:38]
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mod6 !up asciilifeform [14:49]
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BingoBoingo !s coin.mx [14:50]
assbot 1 results for 'coin.mx' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=coin.mx [14:50]
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scoopbot_revived Coin.mx Operators Arrested For Violating Anti Money Laundering Laws http://qntra.net/2015/07/coin-mx-operators-arrested-for-violating-anti-money-laundering-laws/ [15:15]
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gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210690 << Oh oh, let me guess! [15:18]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 05:41:58; ben_vulpes: you know BingoBoingo i think you have a thing [15:18]
gabriel_laddel If you're reading it, it's for you + wrong in all the right places? [15:18]
BingoBoingo https://archive.is/ZiWbe [15:18]
assbot Coin.mx Operators Arrested For Violating Anti Money Laundering Laws | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmQFsF ) [15:18]
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trinque just outlaw entrepreneurship and be done with it. [15:20]
trinque tired of this "just the tip" nonsense [15:20]
gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209698 << I would pay for a video of Stoya reciting PURSUING THE LIMITS OF FAILED SYMMETRY + a few other Schwartz works while being fucked. [15:20]
assbot Logged on 22-07-2015 14:48:21; mircea_popescu: actually it's probably ready for a revival, if people like stoya, kim kardashian and whoever else of the new slut generation can be arsed. [15:20]
trinque we can't even do communism right [15:20]
gabriel_laddel There is a lot to do in this vein, actually. [15:20]
gabriel_laddel Sasha Grey sorta got that, but only after she finished her career. [15:21]
gabriel_laddel Or instead of the "stupid student fucks teacher" trope, reverse it. Stud teacher is teaching Taylor's therom incorrectly, smart, slutty student explains & fucks. [15:23]
gabriel_laddel With lots of hitting, choking and "give me the CORRECT solution you stupid slut" [15:24]
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trinque bahaha, this is more insight into gabriel_laddel's fetishes than I ever needed [15:25]
* gabriel_laddel didn't even know he was into this, until now [15:26]
gabriel_laddel thanks MP [15:26]
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trinque gabriel_laddel: I added conkeror to my stumpwm setup [15:28]
trinque one thing I don't like is that different conkeror windows do not have the same buffers list [15:28]
gabriel_laddel trinque: wtf do you have multiple windows for? [15:28]
trinque multiple screens. [15:28]
gabriel_laddel ah [15:29]
gabriel_laddel yeah, idk [15:29]
gabriel_laddel trinque: you prolly want the masamune "backdoor" for conkeror [15:29]
trinque I mean, it's a minor quibble. [15:29]
gabriel_laddel allows scripting with parenscript [15:29]
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gabriel_laddel It still fucking sucks, but eh [15:29]
trinque I'm not gonna push ya to gimme masamune til you're done. [15:29]
trinque bu tI'll probably keep grabbing components in the meanwhile [15:29]
gabriel_laddel Just grab it [15:29]
gabriel_laddel .../masamune/browser/ [15:29]
gabriel_laddel it's all in there [15:29]
trinque ok, I'll check it out [15:29]
gabriel_laddel there is a default .conkerorrc file that is required to run it called default-conkerorrc.js [15:30]
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gabriel_laddel trinque: do you want CL work? [15:31]
trinque nah, I'm already maxed out [15:31]
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shinohai ROFL: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/23/universal-pirated-copy-jurassic-world-seeded-from-its-own-servers [15:34]
assbot Universal finds pirated copy of Jurassic World seeded from its own servers | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmRVMr ) [15:34]
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mats shinohai: am here [15:37]
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trinque shinohai: beatings for these hashbang people telling me to sh <(curl anythingontheinternet) [15:45]
trinque though I guess they acknowledge it in the source [15:45]
trinque tls 1.0, sha1 sigs, lol [15:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 283850 @ 0.00053804 = 152.7227 BTC [+] {3} [15:47]
shinohai trinque: they are trying to be clever. I never talk to most of 'em. I just pay my bill every month [15:47]
* shinohai always likes having extra shell capacity [15:48]
mats http://tsyrklevich.net/2015/07/22/hacking-team-0day-market [15:53]
assbot Hacking Team: a zero-day market case study ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmTBWb ) [15:53]
mats these names, man [15:54]
mats >NEONNIPPLE: Office 2007, Word + Excel, required ActiveX control, required user interaction (going to Edit menu) [15:54]
mats >BACKPAIN-FUN ($100k): Multi-OS Flash SOP bypass [15:54]
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trinque mats: has to go without saying at this point to disable flash... [15:55]
trinque browser plugins in general [15:55]
mats yeah. HT email archives suggest they have a couple Silverlight 0days, but i haven't seen it in any of the released code [15:56]
mats lots of folks vulnerable to those -- people not on Chrome that use Netflix for example [15:56]
trinque yep, and even on chrome doesn't it use that widevine thing? [15:57]
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mats 'widevine' is for mobile, i believe [15:59]
trinque my chrome had it before I turned it off [16:05]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [16:05]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210873 << Run Moar Winblowz!!! [16:06]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 18:49:42; mats: http://tsyrklevich.net/2015/07/22/hacking-team-0day-market [16:06]
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shinohai The plot thickens: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-21/fbi-israel-make-securities-fraud-arrests-tied-to-jpmorgan-hack [16:57]
assbot Digital Misfits Link JPMorgan Hack to Pump-and-Dump Fraud - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1CSRmdu ) [16:57]
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thestringpuller ascii_field: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security.png << This is pretty much sums up your thoughts on the matter. [18:13]
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solrodar ;;later tell ben_vulpes any progress with the boost problem you had with my script? What was the problem anyway? [18:16]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:16]
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scoopbot_revived Universal Seeds Own Film to Pirates http://qntra.net/2015/07/universal-seeds-own-film-to-pirates/ [18:55]
BingoBoingo https://archive.is/gEUsJ [18:56]
assbot Universal Seeds Own Film to Pirates | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1fpWxqc ) [18:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153057 @ 0.00051866 = 79.3845 BTC [+] {2} [19:02]
mats BingoBoingo: that's a confusing title [19:03]
BingoBoingo Which part? [19:03]
mats mostly 'Seeds' [19:05]
mats the sentence is hard to parse if you don't understand the bittorrent protocol [19:06]
BingoBoingo Or Bukkake [19:07]
mats 'Universal Unwittingly Shares Jurassic World with BitTorrent Pirates' mebbe [19:07]
BingoBoingo Fine, title updated url same [19:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00052588 = 21.4559 BTC [+] [19:11]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [19:14]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 276.35, Best ask: 276.59, Bid-ask spread: 0.24000, Last trade: 276.23, 24 hour volume: 7131.42363814, 24 hour low: 275.56, 24 hour high: 278.44, 24 hour vwap: None [19:14]
mircea_popescu mats hanbot nubbins` http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-114849 [19:15]
assbot So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1fpYJ0Q ) [19:15]
trinque so, deedbot- has an open port 7000 connection, yet it is absent here [19:17]
trinque wtf? [19:17]
mircea_popescu absent where ? [19:18]
mircea_popescu ;;seen funkenstein [19:19]
trinque it is not on freenode [19:19]
gribble funkenstein was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: !register 6B0D10D1878DE25B4DA2695AB2B6360488298AB6 [19:19]
mircea_popescu ;;seen funkenstein_ [19:19]
gribble funkenstein_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 46 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: re: hastings, uconnect: "boston brakes" is the term used in reportage by veteranstoday and others [19:19]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell funkenstein_ hey weren't you pretending to be a dwarf ? [19:19]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:19]
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mircea_popescu ;;calc 1584*.199 [19:26]
gribble 315.216 [19:26]
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BingoBoingo More reddit derps herping https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ed681/nick_szabo_bitcoin_more_vulnerable_to_selfish/ [19:42]
assbot Nick Szabo: Bitcoin "more vulnerable to selfish mining if delays become more prominent, e.g., in the case of larger blocks" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1fq1nUi ) [19:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90245 @ 0.00054253 = 48.9606 BTC [+] {2} [19:42]
mircea_popescu o wait, reddit disapproves of szabo now ? [19:44]
BingoBoingo Apparently [19:45]
BingoBoingo He was their Satoshi until he talked blocksize [19:45]
mircea_popescu must suck to be the dumb. [19:47]
ben_vulpes y'know trinque its probably cawsmic race [19:50]
trinque ben_vulpes: wut? [19:52]
ben_vulpes cosmic rays! [19:52]
trinque o lol [19:52]
trinque I'm gonna go with "wad of golang I'd rather kill than inspect" [19:52]
mircea_popescu ahahah [19:55]
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cazalla http://i.imgur.com/BH3Vtoi.jpg [20:07]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IpnxU5 ) [20:07]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210594 << very much this. there's little hope to get the gearing smooth enough [20:09]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 04:15:36; asciilifeform: actually the real deal might be a locomotive-style drivetrain [20:09]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210625 << works spelndidly for a tank, that. [20:11]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 04:23:12; BingoBoingo: decimation: Predator follows USg school of design which created "Abrams" [20:11]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210667 << quite this, and the next line. [20:12]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 04:48:44; trinque: mircea_popescu | trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ? << perhaps bitcoin is well upstream of anyone's revolution [20:12]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210798 << kickass. [20:15]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 14:58:22; kakobrekla: dulap.b-a.link, incitatus.b-a.link, zoolag.b-a.link is set [20:15]
mircea_popescu holy shit FANT is boy in slovenian ?! [20:16]
mircea_popescu this is so cute [20:16]
mircea_popescu (jack of cards is fante in romanian; young man about town idem). [20:16]
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mircea_popescu and obviously, zdrav-an, ie, zdrav-like = strong, hearthy. [20:17]
kakobrekla hehe cool [20:17]
mircea_popescu is vazno off "to see" root ? [20:17]
kakobrekla vazno ~ pomembno ~ important [20:18]
mircea_popescu aha. how do you say to see ? [20:18]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210833 << hehe it's how that place's been running for so long now... [20:19]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 18:17:06; trinque: tired of this "just the tip" nonsense [20:19]
kakobrekla "to see" would be close to 'videti'. sight is 'vid'. [20:19]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell gabriel_laddel so talk to her, odds are she'll do it. [20:19]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:19]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla aha ty! [20:19]
kakobrekla anyway, that line goes something 'it doesnt matter what it is, as long as the boy is healthy.' [20:20]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210843 << np [20:20]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 18:23:00; gabriel_laddel: thanks MP [20:20]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla i got that :) [20:20]
kakobrekla ah :) [20:21]
mircea_popescu "As a result, their 0day providers tended to be small and unestablished. Some established exploit vendors, like VUPEN and COSEINC, did offer to sell Hacking Team exploits, but they were predominantly overpriced, second-rate, and not even 0day. As a result, Hacking Team was seriously exploit supply constrained because they had difficulty finding suppliers that they deemed reliable and reasonably priced. Their competitor [20:23]
mircea_popescu s, like Gamma International and NSO Group, prominently advertised their 0day capabilities, forcing Hacking Team to be defensive with prospective customers." [20:23]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform satisfied nao ? [20:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00053178 = 28.2907 BTC [+] [20:26]
mircea_popescu "Hacking Team's CTO claimed that VUPEN “burned” their (presumably unsold) vulnerabilities after a set period of time to move the exploit market; putting their deployments in jeopardy." doh. [20:32]
mircea_popescu "Exploit portfolios: VBI regularly sent portfolio updates to its customers. Though they were encrypted, Hacking Team's habit of forwarding encrypted messages unencrypted means that many of them are accessible. " [20:33]
mircea_popescu fucktards. how about that ? [20:33]
mod6 asciilifeform: the build we were discussing earlier is now up and running against 195.211.154.159 and seems to be pulling blocks again just fine. [20:33]
mircea_popescu "Several of these forwards included a PDF with VBI's entire exploit portfoli" [20:33]
mircea_popescu fucktard. HOW ABOUT THAT [20:33]
mircea_popescu he needed pdf don't you know. [20:33]
mircea_popescu buncha fucking amateurs this world is made out of i swear. [20:34]
mod6 asciilifeform: up to, height=365462 now. and my other obsd build has been connected the whole time and still chugging along: height=224116 [20:34]
mircea_popescu "Rosario is an Italian security researcher with specializations in browser security and fuzzing. [...] During this time he primarily focused on fuzzing SVG, XSLT, and XPath. He was paid $3.5k EUR per month" << alright ? guy made 50k a year. thinkaboutit. [20:35]
mircea_popescu "Fuzzer results: Though Rosario's fuzzers found numerous crashing test cases, like most fuzzer outputs few of them appeared exploitable. One of the first crashes that looked exploitable was an IE10 memory corruption that was patched within a week of its discovery. Soon after, Rosario found a Firefox crash that looked exploitable but only appeared to occur under memory pressure. Despite months of analysis, Hacking Team [20:36]
mircea_popescu was unable to turn this into a working exploit. It was discovered in October of 2013 and VUPEN used the same bug to win Pwn2Own in May of 2014." [20:36]
mircea_popescu geniuses over there. [20:36]
mircea_popescu i would say Vlad Tsyrklevich thoroughly vindicates my side in the original discussio re these schmucks. [20:37]
mircea_popescu they had to pick between opening webcam studio, call center or "security firm" and not able to find the female lips of either kind for either of the first two settled on what sweaty balls could do. [20:38]
mircea_popescu and guess what... "Vlad likes long romantic walks on the beach, e-mail him sweet nothings to vlad@tsyrklevich.net using his gpg key." links to keybase. [20:44]
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mircea_popescu too bad for him, he put all this effort into writing a neat article in the hopes of maybe impressing people, he's almost there and then he shoots his sale in the head with stupid associations like that. [20:45]
mircea_popescu i guess it's the fate of the aspiring 14% to never know what actually sunk their decade of effort. [20:45]
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mircea_popescu omfg who the fuck got bloomberg to put that stupid lined paper background. what, they think ima think they're moar professional like this ? [20:48]
mircea_popescu "Though these are separate cases, some of the individuals are linked. A principal in the alleged securities-fraud scheme is a business associate of one of those charged in the Florida bitcoin operation, a friendship dating back more than a decade to their days at Florida State University. [20:49]
mircea_popescu The two are also identified in a previously unreported FBI memo that connects them to the investigation of the hack of JPMorgan as well as to incidents at Fidelity Investments Ltd. and E*Trade Financial Corp. JPMorgan officials argued initially that one of the largest U.S. bank hacks in history was the work of the Russian government." [20:49]
mircea_popescu herp. fancy this : governments currently confuse individuals for governments now. [20:49]
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mircea_popescu " In June, JPMorgan reassigned Chief Information Security Officer Greg Rattray amid staff discord over his handling of the breach. Rattray and his boss, Jim Cummings, a former head of the U.S. Air Force’s cyber-combat unit, were the chief advocates of the theory that the Russian government was involved in the breach" [20:52]
mircea_popescu "On the 15th of this month Universal Pictures France filed a takedown request with Google (archived) demanding they remove from results sites hosting or linking pirated copies of Jurassic World. Among the addresses Universal demanded Google sanction was 127.0.0.1 which is the IP address a computer reserves for communicating with itself. This means that not only was Universal seeding its own film to pirates, it was like [20:55]
mircea_popescu ly doing so from the same machine used detect and prepare a report on infringement for Universal." [20:55]
mircea_popescu epic lol of all time. [20:55]
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mircea_popescu of course, this looks a lot more like someone not knowing their way around a netstat dump than a legitimate thing. because i don't imagine torrents work so that a computer ever advertises itself as localhost. [20:56]
mircea_popescu they'd have seen it as whatever its ip actually were, if actually seeding. [20:56]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell bingoboingo "Yet, in the situation where the very fabric and reliability of the Internet at large is threatened it is no one prerogative care that they are offering on open Denial of Service attack amplifier on their connection." i think you accidentally a verb. [20:58]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:58]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210976 << wai wat [21:01]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 23:20:34; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform satisfied nao ? [21:01]
mircea_popescu "Additionally, the FBI said that the Murgio sold bitcoins to victims of ransomware attacks such as Cryptowall. " << yeah, like various USG offices, including if memory serves a sherrif. i suppose this is now a crime, right ? selling bitcoin to the derps. them using public funds to pay the ransom IS FINE! [21:01]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210981 << hanbot's node ? [21:01]
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mircea_popescu them having thew windows hole in the first time, for which they paid with more public funds, also fine. [21:01]
mircea_popescu just selling them bitcoin is bad [21:01]
mircea_popescu motherfucker shitforbrains. [21:01]
asciilifeform 'sold enemy of the crown water to drink' will eventually lead to gallows, yes [21:02]
mircea_popescu NO. [21:02]
mircea_popescu they sold the fucking crown AGENT water to drink. [21:02]
asciilifeform naturally [21:02]
asciilifeform how else caught ! [21:02]
mircea_popescu nononono. [21:02]
asciilifeform !s strela [21:02]
assbot 19 results for 'strela' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=strela [21:02]
mircea_popescu the sold bitcoin to some derps who needed it to pay cryptolocker. [21:02]
mircea_popescu such derps = usg law enforcement. [21:02]
mircea_popescu basically, the situation here is, us marshall goes into gun shop, buys ammo, shotos his wife. [21:03]
mircea_popescu is excused from murder, and from illegal use of his budget [21:03]
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mircea_popescu but they propose the gun shop owner did somethingwrong. [21:03]
asciilifeform l0l aha [21:04]
mircea_popescu "By selling bitcoins to the victims, the FBI, notably, holds Murgio responsible for enabling the criminals responsible for the attacks to receive the proceeds of their crimes." [21:04]
mircea_popescu how about that ? [21:04]
mircea_popescu "the victims" aka government agents, who both provide the holes and the payments, are a-ok. [21:04]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210987 << to be fair, we (at least i) do not know for precisely how many seconds of actual-work he earned this. [21:04]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 23:32:31; mircea_popescu: "Rosario is an Italian security researcher with specializations in browser security and fuzzing. [...] During this time he primarily focused on fuzzing SVG, XSLT, and XPath. He was paid $3.5k EUR per month" << alright ? guy made 50k a year. thinkaboutit. [21:04]
mircea_popescu because government shit don't stink. [21:04]
mircea_popescu fuck this. [21:04]
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mircea_popescu so it's not the fucking marshall's office that ENABLED the criminals by paying tax dollars for windows shit [21:05]
mircea_popescu and it's also not the fucking marshall's office that ENABLED the criminals by paying them bitcoin [21:05]
mircea_popescu no, no, it's the bitcoin salesman that's to blame. he did it all! [21:05]
asciilifeform the only hypothesis that has a prayer of explaining all of this is that microshit is sacrosanct in usa [21:06]
asciilifeform a kind of national church. [21:06]
mircea_popescu i do not care for any explanation. [21:06]
asciilifeform students of collective madness might care for explanation [21:06]
mircea_popescu this is how people end up funding "terrorism", for the record, if anyone wondered. [21:07]
BingoBoingo Undid accidentalied [21:07]
mircea_popescu half a day of this shit, you're willing to pay money to anyone shooting that way. [21:07]
mircea_popescu in any case : the front against the usg in the cyber world is only going to strengthen the way it's going. within a decade we will see full area denial in the sense that no govt anything will still run online. [21:09]
asciilifeform ianal, but the legalistic talmudism (talmudic legalism?) under which the fl folks are being charged, was something more like 'sold ammo to fella who spoke of his criminal plan' rather than 'sold ammo to fella who turned out to be criminal' [21:09]
asciilifeform this is a traditional thing in usa [21:10]
mircea_popescu not what it says. [21:10]
* asciilifeform reads [21:10]
asciilifeform 'In doing so, they knowingly exchanged cash for people whom they believed may be engaging in criminal activity. MURGIO and his co-conspirators have also knowingly exchanged cash for Bitcoins for victims of “ransomware” attacks...' [21:11]
mircea_popescu quite. [21:11]
mircea_popescu THE FUCKING USMS WAS ENGAGING IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY [21:11]
mircea_popescu ie, defrauding the taxpayer to pay his cybercriminal buttbudies. [21:12]
asciilifeform does seem like a straight application of 20th c. u.s. law, though. where it is formally illegal not to turn stoolie. [21:12]
mircea_popescu how were they to know ? [21:12]
mircea_popescu here is the case : 1. us marshall got a friend of his to intall a cryptolocker on the office computer. [21:13]
mircea_popescu 2. us marshall stole money from the office budget, to buy bitcoin with [21:13]
mircea_popescu 3. us marshall gave bitcoin to his friend. [21:13]
mircea_popescu how is the bitcoin seller responsible for this ? [21:13]
mircea_popescu what if he had bought a cow ? [21:13]
asciilifeform sorta like dope peddler who buys a bag of 'coke' (sugar) from one usg provocateur and sells it to another [21:14]
mircea_popescu and most importantly, where is the fraud, racketeering and criminal organisation/conspiuracy indictment for the us marshall in question ? [21:14]
asciilifeform is considered just as guilty of the offence as one who was found with the genuine article [21:14]
asciilifeform in usa. [21:14]
mircea_popescu not AT ALL the same. [21:14]
mircea_popescu not at all the same. [21:14]
mircea_popescu it's sorta like the guy who does a lube job for the unmarked police car which the cop driving was using to steal coke from the evidence room. [21:15]
mircea_popescu they failed to indict the cop and are prosecuiting the mechanic. [21:15]
mircea_popescu how the fuck does this make sense. [21:15]
mircea_popescu "he drove it in, i lubed it. it's what i do. what the fuck do you schmucks want ?" [21:16]
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mircea_popescu "i mean i get it, frantic activity as a cover for YOUR FUCKING IMPOTENCE, but really... get to terms with it already". [21:17]
* asciilifeform gives up trying to 'make sense' of this nyooz, because, yes, it does not actually make sense as presented by usg [21:18]
mircea_popescu this is why i say " within a decade we will see full area denial in the sense that no govt anything will still run online.". they're simply too weak and ineffectual to do anything that matters, and even they know it. by 2025 internet will be exactly like iraq for the usg. [21:18]
mircea_popescu "show up here and get deaded [21:18]
asciilifeform perhaps on that other internet, the one not owned & operated by usg subsidiaries [21:19]
mircea_popescu there is no such thing as "owned". they don't havew the grip to own with, which is what the haks prove, and they know they do not have the resources or werewithal to get it, which is what this deranged prosecutorial overactivity proves. [21:19]
* asciilifeform will probably have to take a plane (raft ? oxcart?) to visit ~that~ internet [21:19]
mircea_popescu it's a foregone conclusion, they may operate it, but only for us. [21:19]
mircea_popescu you're on it right now. [21:20]
mircea_popescu the situation is quite exactly like that of the "16 yo with a hot ass owned and operated by her dad". yeah, it's true he made it. and it';s also true that his choices are, either suck up to me when i show up and offer me drinks [21:20]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: idk, last i checked i was on that one : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208902 [21:20]
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mircea_popescu or otherwise get beaten to shit, on a weekly basis,. [21:20]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform won't last. [21:20]
asciilifeform where will 'it' go, and exactly why ? [21:21]
mircea_popescu same place jpm email archive went, for the same exact reason. [21:21]
mircea_popescu and i'll say this to assuage your doubts : i am the man who said "you are not safe, for we know where you live". a year and change later, reality has borne my saying : the entire usg employee list, leaked. etc. [21:23]
asciilifeform so how many are heads on pikes now ? [21:23]
mircea_popescu turns out i perhaps DID actually know who everyone's cheating with at the time i said so. [21:23]
mircea_popescu actual physical pikes ? none. [21:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174553 @ 0.00051326 = 89.5911 BTC [-] {2} [21:24]
asciilifeform for that matter, leaked, but not - iirc - public [21:25]
mircea_popescu heh. [21:25]
mircea_popescu do you count lawsky ? [21:25]
asciilifeform from my perch, could be disinfo [21:25]
asciilifeform lawsky is still network 100x+ what i am [21:26]
mircea_popescu wasn't he super-hotshot and whatnot a eyar ago ? [21:26]
scoopbot_revived Before you board the plane to Italy, consider this. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/23/before-you-board-the-plane-to-italy-consider-this/ [21:26]
asciilifeform that's no pike. [21:26]
mircea_popescu mmkay. [21:26]
asciilifeform *net worth [21:26]
mircea_popescu ahnahahaah WHAT [21:26]
mircea_popescu you can't math, seriously. [21:26]
asciilifeform this may be true. my net worth is approximately 0 [21:26]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/02/banca-ditalia-ends-amlkyc-for-bitcoin-businesses-opts-out-of-economic-death/ << pretty cool. [21:26]
assbot Banca d’Italia Ends AML/KYC For Bitcoin Businesses, Opts Out Of Economic Death | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1CTbGvk ) [21:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform consider i've done the aaaaah handfling at you. [21:27]
* asciilifeform considers. [21:27]
asciilifeform re: herr lawsky, wake me up when he's breaking his back 60-80h/wk to pay his rent. [21:28]
mircea_popescu which you know he isn't, because you assume so and that makes it a fact. meanwhilke you aren't, but you asume you aree, because idem. [21:29]
mircea_popescu i can't argue with magicians now can i. [21:29]
asciilifeform mandarins don't turn into mud dwellers in usa, in general [21:29]
mircea_popescu this is like saying "he's a nigger which makes him a thief" [21:29]
mircea_popescu gotta try the mandarin cases invididually yes ? [21:29]
mircea_popescu sure, mandarins didn't use to. but then bitcoin happened and we've wrounght a trail of destruction the likes of which [21:30]
mircea_popescu was never seen nor will be seen again until next week's. [21:30]
asciilifeform it is true that i do not own a telescope with sufficient magic to show me herr lawsky standing in a welfare queue [21:30]
asciilifeform even if he is - through some miracle - in one. [21:30]
mircea_popescu you do, just dun' wanna use it. [21:30]
mircea_popescu it's very simple really : did he make da ? polcie comissioner ? housing comissioner ? [21:31]
mircea_popescu if he didn't he's fucked. and you knoiw he didn't, and you know he got kicked out [21:31]
asciilifeform why would i care what his title is [21:31]
mircea_popescu past this, it's really just wilful denial. [21:31]
mircea_popescu ahahaha. [21:31]
asciilifeform i care if he has to break his back in honest wurk or not [21:31]
asciilifeform and if not - why not. [21:31]
mircea_popescu HE cares what his title is dude. that's what he dedicated his life to : supporting himself through titleage. which he lost. wtf more is there. [21:32]
asciilifeform am i to think that he did not embezzle enough usd to live like taleb for his remaining days ? [21:32]
mircea_popescu maybe he turned overnight into a successful 0day broker ? [21:32]
mircea_popescu leaving aside the plain fact that there isn't half of enough in all of ny public system, recall the piddly sums they were prosecuting ex rankers for ? [21:33]
asciilifeform entirely likely that he turned, overnightm into successful dirt-on-his-colleagues broker [21:33]
mircea_popescu that doesn't pay. [21:33]
mircea_popescu no rat in the history of ratting ever ate well. [21:33]
asciilifeform gavin? [21:33]
mircea_popescu pay him a visit sometime. [21:34]
mircea_popescu not like he lives far off. [21:34]
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asciilifeform iirc he was pulling in roughly 2x the traditional rate for a programmer in east usa [21:34]
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asciilifeform (and, more importantly, for doing virtually nothing!) [21:35]
mircea_popescu 45 High St, Amherst MA. bring flowers, i don't imagine he'll kick you out. can have a nice cup of coffee. [21:36]
asciilifeform to schmucks like /me who barely subsist on what passes for honest work in usa, gavin et al are especially galling. [21:36]
asciilifeform even if it is not intuitively clear to mircea_popescu precisely why [21:36]
mircea_popescu or the imagination thereof. [21:36]
mircea_popescu which is why i suggest contact. it's a truth known since roman antiquity that only truth dispells the fantasms of onanism. [21:36]
mircea_popescu which is why they had all the status. [21:37]
mircea_popescu statues* [21:37]
* asciilifeform has met one or two of his local 'gavins', and saw precisely what he would expect to see of andresen [21:37]
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funkenstein_ early adopters comparing fiat salaries, news at 11 [21:39]
funkenstein_ g'day m'lords [21:39]
asciilifeform l0l what early adopter [21:39]
* asciilifeform has ~0 coin [21:39]
* funkenstein_ might need some dispelling os such fantasms [21:42]
phf i thought early adopters went by way of same in other gold rush situations. "bought pizza for half a pound of gold. later bought car for the other half. life's good mang". very few actually financially literate and with enough foresight for it to not be peanuts (i.e. "fortunes" ~~ 100-200k) [21:46]
asciilifeform hanbot: i don't. but i notice that the address mircea_popescu gave does not have an 'apartment #' in it; nor is it in east dc [21:49]
asciilifeform or even any place close to as cheap as where i live [21:49]
* asciilifeform bbl [21:50]
scoopbot_revived US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine http://qntra.net/2015/07/us-standards-institute-moves-from-timekeeping-to-methamphetamine/ [21:50]
BingoBoingo https://archive.is/CXVh9 [21:51]
assbot US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1CTeBnU ) [21:51]
funkenstein_ lmao, you'll keep some real good time on that shit [21:53]
BingoBoingo Also looks like zendesk.com has been hijacked to host spamzor articles [21:55]
funkenstein_ hey weren't you pretending to be a dwarf ? <-- yeah old story involving long dead game, also i don't need to pretend: mental dwarf [21:55]
BingoBoingo funkenstein_: Or have a good time on that shit. [21:59]
funkenstein_ not really my thing [22:00]
BingoBoingo At the very least you can get your kitchen very clean [22:01]
funkenstein_ in theory yes, in practice not so much [22:01]
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mod6 <+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2015#1210981 << hanbot's node ? << awe f. how i grabbed the wrong ip ... gfdi [22:14]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 23:30:19; mod6: asciilifeform: the build we were discussing earlier is now up and running against 195.211.154.159 and seems to be pulling blocks again just fine. [22:14]
mod6 wait [22:20]
mod6 nosuchlabs.com. 1800 IN A 195.211.154.159 [22:20]
mod6 what am I missing here. is that hanbots node? [22:20]
mod6 i thought that was the dulap? [22:21]
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BingoBoingo https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/23/9acc0a1a9843e961cd2a2d990108193a.png [22:25]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Op9GeS ) [22:25]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211161 << l0l, uncle al has f1stt ps0t! [22:25]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 00:47:07; scoopbot_revived: US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine http://qntra.net/2015/07/us-standards-institute-moves-from-timekeeping-to-methamphetamine/ [22:25]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211175 << s.nsa flagship node. mine. [22:26]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 01:17:16; mod6: nosuchlabs.com. 1800 IN A 195.211.154.159 [22:26]
asciilifeform or rather, one of the 3 i presently maintain [22:26]
asciilifeform dulap, yes. [22:26]
mod6 i think i misunderstand your comment "hanbot's node ?" then. i thought you were trying to indicate that I was syncing against the wrong IP [22:26]
asciilifeform mod6: i thought you were speaking of a node that was being built last night [22:27]
asciilifeform (hanbot was asking various things re: patches, etc) [22:27]
mod6 ooh no. [22:27]
mod6 sorry. [22:27]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211163 << this is actually very much sop among folks with access to suppliers, glass, etc. [22:28]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 00:48:33; assbot: US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1CTeBnU ) [22:28]
BingoBoingo Uncle Al would be very welcome to contribute to Qntra if he ever took a break from disqus [22:28]
asciilifeform but from what i know, it is not normally done for profit in the usual sense [22:28]
asciilifeform but for more 'silk roady' reasons of 'want dope but no dopewot' [22:28]
mod6 so I had this build that i created on the 13th: 20150713-v0531-patched-glibc-gentoo-statorBuildScript [22:28]
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asciilifeform (in no case is the dope cost-competitive with the 'street') [22:29]
BingoBoingo but for more 'silk roady' reasons of 'want dope but no dopewot' << Sure but usually they evade detection as they don't light the world on fire. What if NIST dope hit a cesium clock? How many leapseconds would follow [22:29]
asciilifeform what if whitehouse kitchen greasefire burned clitler's clit ? [22:30]
asciilifeform doesn't happen [22:30]
asciilifeform plantations, even, had freestanding kitchens. (i was on an old plantation, and saw this alive, preserved, just last night.) for a reason.. [22:30]
funkenstein_ most addicts use croakers afaik [22:31]
asciilifeform wtf is a 'croaker' [22:31]
mod6 and it sync'd against your dulap with -verifyall all the way up to 365454, then wedged for ~36 hours or so. but this evening, restarted it and continued sync'ing just fine. [22:31]
mod6 sorry for the delay. lol, had to find block number. [22:31]
funkenstein_ croaker is a "doctor" - gives "prescription" [22:31]
asciilifeform where is the doctor that prescribes meth ? [22:31]
funkenstein_ slang i picked up from reading Burroughs [22:31]
asciilifeform in 1936 ? [22:31]
mod6 currently on block: height=366125 [22:31]
asciilifeform time machine ? [22:31]
funkenstein_ amphetamines given to all age groups these days, just say "ADD" and you're in [22:32]
asciilifeform funkenstein_: washington pravda is telling us that this incident involved proper meth [22:33]
BingoBoingo where is the doctor that prescribes meth ? << Available as Desoxyn at most pharmacies [22:34]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: thought it was banned in usa [22:34]
funkenstein_ i'm not sure what that extra methyl group gets you [22:35]
asciilifeform funkenstein_: fat solubility [22:35]
BingoBoingo Not at all, merely Schedule II [22:35]
BingoBoingo Prescribed mostly for shithead kids [22:35]
funkenstein_ ah, so BingoBoingo's friends prefer it? [22:35]
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asciilifeform at any rate, if any idiot could get meth by getting 'diseased', there would be no mega-contraband market [22:36]
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asciilifeform (where is the underground 'prozac' market ?) [22:36]
BingoBoingo funkenstein_: Nah. One of the kinds in my boy scout troop back in the day was on it. I'm guessing the profile for a kid that gets Desoxyn is maybe turning them into a hardcore addict at 13 might get them to focus on something. [22:36]
BingoBoingo Anyways levomethamphetamine is available over the counter [22:37]
asciilifeform go, isomerize. [22:37]
asciilifeform l0l [22:37]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211171 << the specifics of the dwelling aside, i am fairly confident that gavin doesn't have to show up to an office and program '9-5+' to get it [22:39]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 00:58:33; hanbot: asciilifeform so it doesn't "have" an apt number. not like he likely "has" the box at that address, in whatever construction it may be. can make up all kinds of ideas about what people have while it's on paper. what they really own is almost never recognisable from a list. [22:39]
asciilifeform instead, gets sinecure, like clinton [22:39]
trinque none of the drugs they prescribe are any fun. [22:40]
trinque if you're going to go to the trouble of buying illegal drugs, fuck prozac [22:40]
asciilifeform well yes [22:40]
asciilifeform hence i suspect that BingoBoingo is mistaken re: 'doctor prescribes' [22:41]
asciilifeform i once looked up, technically american doctors can (could?) even prescribe cocaine [22:41]
asciilifeform do they ? [22:41]
trinque they have some not-as-fun variant of that too [22:41]
BingoBoingo i once looked up, technically american doctors can (could?) even prescribe cocaine << Usually only prescribed as a local anesthetic [22:41]
asciilifeform aha [22:41]
asciilifeform the strongest, iirc, known. [22:42]
funkenstein_ benzocaine over the counter [22:42]
BingoBoingo Essential for ear, eye, nose, and throat surgeries because vasoconstrictor [22:42]
BingoBoingo hence i suspect that BingoBoingo is mistaken re: 'doctor prescribes' << They prefer not to prescribe because of rectal exam they get for having patient on it [22:43]
cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211219 <<< i was prescribed dexamphetamine, nfi if similar but never saw the appeal in eating em like m&m's [22:43]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 01:32:16; BingoBoingo: Prescribed mostly for shithead kids [22:43]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Nah that's a few steps down [22:44]
trinque I took an adderall xr once and had an utterly terrible night, took notes on my entire calculus book [22:44]
trinque because you know, I really needed to [22:45]
trinque in pen no less [22:45]
cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211234 <<< not cocaine but i have mentioned before some doctors working in depression clinics here prescribe ketamine [22:45]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 01:37:58; asciilifeform: i once looked up, technically american doctors can (could?) even prescribe cocaine [22:45]
cazalla charge well for it as well, something like $1000 a course [22:46]
trinque iirc mdma is now being used in some PTSD cases here [22:46]
cazalla we never did get the florida style pain clinics here though [22:46]
trinque as well it should be [22:46]
BingoBoingo Now ketamine is great. [22:47]
trinque I don't particularly like being that far from knowing where I left reality [22:47]
BingoBoingo Also merely Schedule III [22:47]
funkenstein_ so many schedules, so little time [22:47]
BingoBoingo trinque: Too expensive to go that far. If you want to go that far there's cough syrup [22:47]
BingoBoingo https://archive.is/bRNnv [22:48]
assbot Sipa what have you done ? ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpbUed ) [22:48]
trinque heh [22:48]
trinque salvia though, enjoyed the shit out of it [22:48]
trinque whole thing was utter nonsense, including which way was up [22:48]
BingoBoingo I planted a bunch of different plants from the salvia genus in the front yard this year. None are recommended for recreational consumption. [22:49]
funkenstein_ nice work, how do they grow? [22:50]
BingoBoingo Vertically with nice flower spikes [22:53]
BingoBoingo Also big leaves. [22:53]
cazalla trinque, i'll pass having watched numerous "bad salvia trip" videos on youtube [22:54]
BingoBoingo Kept throwing up fresh stalks of flowers all the way from early may when I planted them to a couple weeks ago on the purle ones. White ones less established by still flowering and growing [22:54]
mod6 asciilifeform: so we'd like to have dumpblock go into the release if possible -- both dump and eat need a bunch of testing and I've got some automated test scenarios working around dumpblock already. but I ran into the seg fault lastnight with too few parameters, i think i fixed it with this simple change: http://dpaste.com/2SRW78V.txt [22:55]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpclFd ) [22:55]
mod6 thoughts? [22:55]
mod6 i have a replacement patch ready to go if you're alright with that change. [22:55]
trinque cazalla: those are the kind of people that fight when an undertow grabs you at the beach [22:55]
trinque you're headed out, back later [22:56]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Look at Reddit's pathetic attempt to head off Euloria https://archive.is/8xNBB [22:56]
assbot [Request] Bitcoin economy plugin for a minecraft server. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Opcqsw ) [22:56]
cazalla trinque, not the sort of people you'd want to share a beer with let alone anything else [22:57]
mod6 <+asciilifeform> (hanbot was asking various things re: patches, etc) << ahhh right. hanbot, did you have any luck getting any of the patches applied? [22:57]
mod6 ok, you're on ubuntu right? [23:03]
BingoBoingo To build stator on "Linux Mint" and ubuntu like I had to first hunt down and install the compilers, because why would a *nix need to ship with compilers [23:05]
mod6 if anyone has built this on v0.5.3.1-RELEASE feel free to pitch in here... [23:06]
BingoBoingo Craptop's synced up to block 279xxx on stator [23:06]
funkenstein_ it built for me on ubuntu with build-essential [23:07]
mod6 but on debian, which is similar in a way to ubuntu with `apt-get`, you need to first update apt-get (anyone correct me if I'm wrong): `apt-get update` and `apt-get upgrade` [23:07]
mod6 then this is what we used to get the deps setup on debian 6 -- the package names might be similar on ubuntu: [23:07]
funkenstein_ yup [23:07]
mod6 oh. [23:08]
mod6 hmm [23:08]
assbot Logged on 23-07-2015 01:28:32; hanbot: so .deb package checked against .rpm file list shows libc_stubs.a missing, the other eleven are present. debian says no .deb packages contain this guy. i'm assuming i need it. auto.sh still errorful after grabbing everything else here http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209888 (errorflurry: http://dpaste.com/26ZEG17 ). doesn't look like that missing library has anything to do wit [23:10]
mod6 you know... it looks to me from that dpaste that it might not be finding the openssl/boost headers [23:12]
cazalla AUD continues to tank http://i.imgur.com/dA18Sgy.png [23:12]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpdJaO ) [23:12]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lol k [23:13]
mod6 i dunno, maybe im wrong. [23:13]
BingoBoingo http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturenews/9140869/Dantes-Divine-Comedy-offensive-and-should-be-banned.html [23:13]
assbot Dante's Divine Comedy 'offensive and should be banned' - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpdQmJ ) [23:13]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell diana_coman i found the snag : CHAT_SYSTEM_BASE in chat options for it to be logged. [23:13]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:13]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You don't understand. They are both World Building games. Why should actual economy make Euloria BEtter!!!HERPITY!!! [23:13]
hanbot mod6 right, so i'ma use relevant snippets of http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000129.html (will not compile release itself with this), then see, will report. [23:16]
assbot [BTC-dev] ak47.sh: another script to build reference implementations ... ( http://bit.ly/1MlPThQ ) [23:16]
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BingoBoingo Is anyone else hoping for cheap open-channel SSDs. Seem like they would be great for raid 1+5 [23:21]
mod6 hanbot: actually make sure to use this one: 000130.html -- the original one was setup for macos [23:22]
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mircea_popescu god damned... so it turns out "modern" bios came up with the idea to introduce an "auto" ps/2 initialization, which means that if the ps2 mouse is present at boot, all works as expected, but if ps/2 mouse is not present at boot ONCE then the mouse will never again work and you're more than welcome to figure out what the shit happened. [23:33]
mircea_popescu who does these things! [23:33]
mircea_popescu "faster post time". fuck your mother it's unmeasurably faster. how long it takes to init ps/2, 3 microseconds ? [23:33]
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mircea_popescu "oh but everyone uses usb mice!!1". no, actually, they don't. look at the rf profile of the usb vs ps2 sometime and figure it out. [23:35]
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mats iirc Apple is responsible for 'EFI' [23:36]
mircea_popescu woudln't surprise me. [23:36]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211273 << looks fine. [23:37]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 01:51:42; mod6: asciilifeform: so we'd like to have dumpblock go into the release if possible -- both dump and eat need a bunch of testing and I've got some automated test scenarios working around dumpblock already. but I ran into the seg fault lastnight with too few parameters, i think i fixed it with this simple change: http://dpaste.com/2SRW78V.txt [23:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00053176 = 28.1833 BTC [+] {2} [23:37]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211284 << reminder to experimenters - given as this is a ~static~ binary, it oughta run on any reasonable linux, once built [23:38]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 02:00:34; mod6: ok, you're on ubuntu right? [23:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00051664 = 14.6467 BTC [-] [23:38]
asciilifeform so conceivably no need to build it again and again on every single machine you own [23:39]
asciilifeform (esp. if you insist on owning boxes running cripplex unixen, e.g., 'ubuntu') [23:39]
mircea_popescu worth testing this theory [23:39]
mircea_popescu with all the shit we've had to go through with silently pseudostatic binaries [23:40]
asciilifeform aha [23:40]
asciilifeform the one and only real test... [23:40]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/ac985befd00b278d45e84da536ec4da6/tumblr_mwfo1h0WMb1sqip1oo1_500.gif [23:40]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Opfvcc ) [23:40]
asciilifeform i didn't even discover the pseudostaticity of 'pseudostatic' bin until attempted a pogo run [23:40]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what bios is this [23:41]
mircea_popescu assus' new uefi shit [23:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28250 @ 0.00053178 = 15.0228 BTC [+] [23:42]
* asciilifeform surprised that mircea_popescu isn't baking 'coreboot' (aka linuxbios) for his iron [23:43]
mircea_popescu why would i run the same thing everywhere. [23:43]
asciilifeform it doesn't have to be same! [23:43]
asciilifeform 1,001 config flagz. [23:44]
mircea_popescu aaanyway. [23:45]
asciilifeform also will note that ps/2 is plenty 'loud'. [23:45]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211157 << mentions of a certain car are in the logs. [23:46]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 00:42:40; phf: i thought early adopters went by way of same in other gold rush situations. "bought pizza for half a pound of gold. later bought car for the other half. life's good mang". very few actually financially literate and with enough foresight for it to not be peanuts (i.e. "fortunes" ~~ 100-200k) [23:46]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211159 << he's also a good decade your senior yo. [23:46]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 00:46:05; asciilifeform: or even any place close to as cheap as where i live [23:46]
asciilifeform what of it [23:47]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211164 < "i think maybe i'm a little fast but you can't really tell" [23:47]
assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 00:50:02; funkenstein_: lmao, you'll keep some real good time on that shit [23:47]
mircea_popescu funkenstein_ so you tried eulora yet ? [23:47]
mircea_popescu cuz we need more miners. [23:47]
mircea_popescu especially the manic kind. [23:48]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: When is minigame.bz hosting sources for the cal3d and crystalspace dependencies? [23:49]
mircea_popescu ah right. ima get on that liek right nao. [23:49]
BingoBoingo K. [23:50]
mircea_popescu brb [23:50]
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BingoBoingo I just updated my system this week so the dependencies I compiled at their wrong version last week were purged. [23:50]
asciilifeform 'NIST Building 236 was previously used for combustion research but is now used for scientific research, Port told the AP. The Drug Enforcement Administration is investigating the case jointly with the MCPD.' [23:52]
asciilifeform wat [23:52]
asciilifeform http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Louisiana-Theater-Shooting-Lafayette--318373531.html << ps0t4l [23:53]
assbot 2 Killed, 8 Injured in Louisiana Theater Shooting | NBC4 Washington ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpguZU ) [23:53]
BingoBoingo wat << OpenBSD doesn't maintain binary compatibility between releases. They do stuff like kill deterministic rand() between 5.6 and 5.7 [23:55]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: what, kernel abi changed ? [23:56]
asciilifeform or just libc [23:56]
BingoBoingo In this case it seems the kernel abi [23:56]
asciilifeform what can i say, build along with kernel then [23:57]
asciilifeform or even into it. [23:57]
funkenstein_ mircea_popescu, it looks awesome from your stories, i don't usually play games with graphics these days but time to change that methinks [23:58]
BingoBoingo It's what I did when I updated this time. Between Kernel, userland, and stuff I like only ~6-8 hours of compiling [23:58]
asciilifeform wai wat?!! [23:58]
asciilifeform on what? [23:58]
asciilifeform 286 ? [23:58]
BingoBoingo AMD E-350 [23:58]
* asciilifeform blows dust off e350 [23:58]
BingoBoingo Like an Intel atom, but with 2 cores and GPU [23:58]
asciilifeform iirc 'atom' was 32bit only [23:59]
asciilifeform so no, not as crippled [23:59]
BingoBoingo Ah, this is AMD64 all the way [23:59]
BingoBoingo I will say 5.7 has much better radeon GPU driver than 5.6 [23:59]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: these work great under 'coreboot' [23:59]
asciilifeform give it a shot [23:59]
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