Forum logs for 21 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
smickles jborkl: I have not. Currently, my goals are to improve the look of the long lists, then get all mpex commands into the gui. That said, i've looked at what it takes to deploy a kivy app on android and it seems entirely doable [00:00]
jborkl I am trying Kivy launcher on Android, I will let you know how it goes [00:01]
smickles Cool :) [00:01]
Namworld unbalanced, what? [00:02]
Namworld I thought billg was referring to the [16:53] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.858988 = 1.718 BTC [-] thing [00:03]
Namworld I don't see hashing having much of an impact. [00:03]
unbalanced Ah I was just looking for more info re: your mention of the ASICMINER above [00:04]
smickles jborkl: I put a 'thank you' line into the windows install instructions, is that ok with you? [00:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] [00:05]
jborkl Yeah, thanks [00:05]
unbalanced Ah I see it now on the re-read [00:05]
billg yes i meant asicminer [00:07]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8588 = 3.4352 BTC [-] [00:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3656 @ 0.00077397 = 2.8296 BTC [+] [00:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8544 @ 0.00077505 = 6.622 BTC [+] [00:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99 BTC [+] [00:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00075921 BTC [-] [00:15]
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Bowjob meow [00:16]
Bowjob ;;ticker [00:16]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.20001, Best ask: 65.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29999, Last trade: 65.50000, 24 hour volume: 88665.03030319, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 61.61345 [00:16]
mircea_popescu http://www.france24.com/en/20130319-internet-europe-bitcoin-digital-currency-getting-boost-from-euro-crisis [00:17]
mircea_popescu ehehe [00:17]
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smickles mircea_popescu: you missed the one in bloomburg, and the one in businessweek? [00:18]
smickles ;D [00:18]
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mircea_popescu hehe [00:19]
Bowjob id like to see a US dollar crisis [00:19]
Bowjob to shake shit up [00:19]
Bowjob >:) [00:19]
Bowjob "worth over 53 dollars" [00:20]
Bowjob while it is true, I feel the article is outdated [00:20]
Bowjob a paradigm shift is occuring [00:20]
kakobrekla a shift [00:20]
kakobrekla 53 is 35 nao [00:20]
Bowjob $65 is the new $5 [00:21]
smickles $30 is the new $1 [00:22]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [00:25]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.20009, Best ask: 65.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.29990, Last trade: 65.49999, 24 hour volume: 88714.34219636, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 61.63805 [00:25]
mircea_popescu jesus [00:25]
mircea_popescu it's gotten to the point i can't sleep cause i miss out [00:25]
Bowjob lol [00:25]
Bowjob at first i was like.. yeah bitch imma cash out! [00:25]
Bowjob then.. im thinking.. [00:26]
Bowjob hey. in the future, i'll just end up spendingBTC [00:26]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.mpoe [00:26]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00070356 / 0.00073898 / 0.00077505 (248006 shares, 183.27 BTC), 7D: 0.00066743 / 0.00071994 / 0.00077505 (2748479 shares, 1,978.76 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00070585 / 0.00078628 (38121639 shares, 26,908.39 BTC) [00:26]
Bowjob without trading btc for fiat [00:26]
benkay that sounds more like thinking, bowjob ;) [00:26]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.00073898 * 65.5 [00:26]
gribble 0.04840319 [00:26]
mircea_popescu awww! soclose! [00:26]
Bowjob yeap. [00:26]
Bowjob it doesnt make sense to kill btc for fiat.. fiat will rot [00:27]
Bowjob >_> [00:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8588 = 3.4352 BTC [-] [00:28]
billg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1642908#msg1642908 oh,usagi is embarrassed [00:28]
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benkay being of sound mind and body, i'm converting my fiat as fast as i can, and spending the rest [00:29]
Bowjob im keeping around ~7k worth of fiat [00:29]
mircea_popescu evil jerks trolling usagi [00:29]
Bowjob some people owe me like 4k fiat [00:29]
kakobrekla usgai/cpa ows me 200btc [00:30]
kakobrekla ;> [00:31]
Bowjob isnt usagi nefario [00:31]
mircea_popescu nah [00:31]
Bowjob or.. idk, wasn't around for the drama [00:31]
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mircea_popescu nefario is this chav that figured he's seen some bankers on tv so he's just as good. [00:31]
Bowjob I missed the pirate boatshow, bruce wagner, ASIC announcement [00:32]
mircea_popescu usagi is this white trash that has seen some women so he thinks he's a woman. [00:32]
Namworld Bowjob: not at all [00:32]
mircea_popescu big difference there. [00:32]
Bowjob so I came in pretty late in the game [00:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00401 BTC [-] [00:32]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0039 = 0.0078 BTC [-] [00:33]
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ThickAsThieves I <3 Deprived [00:34]
ThickAsThieves he's the asset regulator [00:35]
mircea_popescu pity he;'s stubbornly sticking to ltc. [00:35]
ThickAsThieves he might change his tune after today [00:35]
mircea_popescu i hope btc goes over 70 so i can claim the first bitcoin corp over 50mn mkt cap [00:35]
mod6 :) [00:36]
Namworld eh [00:36]
benkay mircea_popescu: "first!" [00:36]
benkay things never change. [00:36]
dub usagi must be a scammer because DT has endorsed it [00:36]
mircea_popescu i imagine the 1st to go over 1bn will make a larger splash anyway. [00:37]
mircea_popescu dub funny how that works out huh. that guy just won't learn. [00:37]
Namworld DT? A scammer? [00:37]
dub DT has a gift for detecting scammers [00:37]
ThickAsThieves by supporting them [00:37]
mircea_popescu dub asicminer hasn't blown up so far, that's pretty much his only exception afaik. [00:38]
kakobrekla by detecting you mean associating [00:38]
kakobrekla hes a magnet. [00:38]
dub all he's doing with AM is a PT, theres still plenty of scope for that to asplode [00:39]
mircea_popescu dub nah, he was one of the original supporters [00:39]
mircea_popescu back in april last year when the thing was born [00:40]
dub oh really? [00:40]
dub who wants to buy some AM! [00:40]
mircea_popescu yeah, grep the logs if you're curious [00:40]
mircea_popescu basically the usagi threads are like old style russian manuals, and usagi is the delegated evil character which makes all the mistakes so the law abiding engineer guy with a soft love interest can set the record straight explicitly for the benefit of the reader [00:41]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136381820671.gif << hungry nigga [00:43]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.8588 = 5.1528 BTC [-] [00:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8589 = 3.4356 BTC [+] [00:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0044 = 0.022 BTC [+] [00:49]
benkay is that a trope in russian lit? [00:50]
benkay or were manuals really written like that? [00:50]
mircea_popescu pretty much like that yeah [00:50]
benkay also, iono what's in that envelope, but homie's probably about to get hiiiiigh [00:50]
mircea_popescu i was gonna go to jail, but then i got high [00:51]
mircea_popescu then i got high [00:51]
mircea_popescu then i got hiii-iiigh [00:51]
benkay da da dum bum [00:51]
benkay i was going to lock this server down [00:51]
benkay ... [00:51]
benkay i was going to run bitcoind somewhere other than the box running my web app [00:52]
benkay but then i got high [00:52]
benkay i was going to lower the amount in the hot wallet [00:52]
mircea_popescu lol [00:52]
benkay but then i got hiiigh [00:52]
mircea_popescu stop, it's becoming painfully veracious [00:52]
benkay now bitcointalk's on my ass [00:52]
benkay AND I KNOW WHY-YY [00:52]
benkay everybody [00:53]
benkay because i got high [00:53]
benkay because i got high [00:53]
benkay because i got high. [00:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104999 BTC [+] [00:54]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.msg1647346#msg1647346 Bowjob baby you know about bitbet referral right ? [00:54]
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mircea_popescu hey midnightmagic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.0;all [00:57]
mircea_popescu explain about this guy's integrity and everything. [00:57]
mircea_popescu i'm all ears. [00:57]
jurov i hope bitbet first referral wins? or if user clicks on other ref url it's replaced? [00:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8589 BTC [+] [00:58]
kakobrekla not replaced [00:58]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ^ [00:58]
mircea_popescu a ok [00:58]
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[\\\] mircea_popescu: thank you. [01:05]
mircea_popescu what's this about ? [01:05]
jurov [\\\] is imsaguy [01:06]
jurov got his G.MPOE :) [01:06]
mircea_popescu yea... [01:06]
mircea_popescu o. haha. you're welcome [01:06]
[\\\] I look forward to my monthly $.27 [01:06]
[\\\] ;-) [01:06]
[\\\] I think you should raise fees more. [01:06]
[\\\] like 60 BTC at least [01:07]
mircea_popescu lol! [01:07]
mircea_popescu the advantage of having shareholders! [01:07]
jurov ;;slap "[\\\\\\]" [01:07]
* gribble slaps [\\\] with a battered ride [01:07]
[\\\] jurov, I see you've learned :) [01:07]
[\\\] see, everday is a teaching experience. [01:07]
[\\\] everyday* [01:07]
kakobrekla http://i.imgur.com/AiJSjdH.jpg [01:07]
mircea_popescu ;;calc .00000097 * 10000 * 65 [01:08]
gribble 0.6305 [01:08]
mircea_popescu 63 not 27 you hater. [01:08]
[\\\] oh, right [01:08]
[\\\] so if you double, I get >$1.00 [01:09]
[\\\] woo [01:09]
mircea_popescu lol kakobrekla. women win! [01:09]
mircea_popescu [\\\] o ya ?! [01:09]
mircea_popescu ;; .63 * 12 / 0.03 [01:09]
gribble Error: ".63" is not a valid command. [01:09]
mircea_popescu ;; calc .63 * 12 / 0.03 [01:09]
gribble 252 [01:09]
mircea_popescu it's the equiv of a 250 dollar T :D [01:09]
jurov [\\\] you ain't ever get anything for free anymore [01:10]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1644753#msg1644753 from the butthurt dept. [01:11]
mircea_popescu "you are calling me a liar without proof" [01:11]
mircea_popescu ya jolly good, proof is needed now. [01:11]
mircea_popescu this from the "you are tearing down churches with no proof that god doesn't exist". [01:12]
mircea_popescu i totally need proof for that too. [01:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00077402 = 5.1859 BTC [+] [01:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8589 BTC [+] [01:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858989 BTC [+] [01:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 51 @ 0.000712 = 0.0363 BTC [-] [01:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+] [01:18]
[\\\] jurov, I didn't get anything for free [01:21]
pigeons "Is there an affiliate program?" [01:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33319 = 0.9996 BTC [-] [01:21]
[\\\] jurov, you must have missed the part where I sold an idea [01:21]
pigeons patent troll! [01:21]
[\\\] patient troll? [01:21]
[\\\] why yes. [01:21]
pigeons ;> [01:22]
[\\\] paging BFL hardware, table of 1 [01:22]
[\\\] oh right, coming soon. [01:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858989 BTC [+] [01:22]
pigeons oh shit our test rig broke [01:22]
[\\\] we need a test rig for the test rig damnit! [01:22]
jurov [\\\] expects to be bribed to not ask mp to increase fees [01:22]
pigeons which has nothing to do with a mining rig by the way [01:22]
[\\\] pigeons: wouldn't throwing the chip on a board and seeing if it hashes be a good way to test it? [01:23]
jurov that kind of ideas [01:23]
[\\\] after all, he can have boards printed in like less than 24 hours [01:23]
[\\\] or something [01:23]
jurov will it blend? [01:23]
jurov ...er. hash? [01:23]
pigeons [\\\]: probably how avalon did it, and why they only had 3 working units after a whole run of components [01:23]
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mircea_popescu patent troll lol [01:24]
[\\\] lol [01:24]
[\\\] avalon has other issues [01:24]
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mircea_popescu so basically here's march and we still don't have an asic maker [01:36]
mircea_popescu what the fucking hell. [01:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.858989 = 4.2949 BTC [+] [01:37]
Bowjob ;;ticker [01:38]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.12999, Best ask: 63.13000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 63.13000, 24 hour volume: 91479.15178779, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 61.92404 [01:38]
Bowjob we've reached $66 [01:38]
Bowjob woo [01:38]
Namworld 66.6, here we go [01:38]
Bowjob 5 steps forward, 2 steps back [01:38]
Bowjob im okay with this [01:38]
[\\\] mircea_popescu: bfl is an asic maker [01:40]
smickles "Earn Bitcoin at the First Business Opportunity using Bitcoin as primary currency." lolwut? [01:40]
[\\\] they just haven't shipped yet [01:40]
mircea_popescu [\\\] so when do they ship ? [01:40]
[\\\] soon, duh [01:40]
mircea_popescu right. [01:40]
mircea_popescu "two weeks" [01:40]
[\\\] "october" [01:40]
mircea_popescu at the latest! [01:40]
[\\\] why you gotta be trolling man? [01:41]
[\\\] why's everyone hating? [01:41]
[\\\] They took the preorders in July.. middle of March.. 8 months later [01:41]
smickles "All users of Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind versions 0.7.2 and earlier are required to upgrade to 0.8.1..." REQUIRED! [01:41]
[\\\] Jesus, might as well make a baby. [01:42]
[\\\] its cheaper and quicker [01:42]
pizzaman1337 and more fun [01:42]
[\\\] smickles, yes. db locking is being a bitch. [01:42]
[\\\] pizzaman1337: not always. [01:42]
[\\\] bishes got horomones. [01:42]
[\\\] hormones too [01:42]
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Bowjob anyone here use electrum [01:43]
Bowjob ? [01:43]
smickles lol, Dooglus has "I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen." in his sig now [01:44]
pizzaman1337 that's been there for a while [01:44]
Bowjob its been there for a while\ [01:44]
Bowjob and we are indeed the new wealthy elite [01:44]
smickles http://i.imgur.com/WPhc7Lq.png << see to me, this totally justifies buying more at .0047 [01:44]
mircea_popescu o hey, up a little [01:44]
Bowjob about 3k up [01:45]
smickles Bowjob: i dunno about you, but currently, it'd have to be about 1666666 usd/btc for me to begin considering that [01:45]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 67 [01:45]
gribble There are currently 5896.4315 bitcoins offered at or under 67.0 USD, worth 386684.371278 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds [01:45]
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Bowjob eh [01:45]
Bowjob how much btc do you have [01:46]
mircea_popescu not so bad. [01:46]
smickles hundreds and hundreds of bitcoins :D [01:46]
ThickAsThieves wtb moar cyprus-like catostrophe [01:46]
Bowjob i thought everyone here owned 1000s and 1000s of btc [01:46]
ThickAsThieves catastrophe [01:46]
smickles i might've, but i actually use them [01:46]
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ThickAsThieves workin on my first thousand [01:47]
ThickAsThieves i'd be closer if i didnt dabble in ltc... [01:47]
smickles and, i sold a fuckload of my s.mpoe when it was at like .00002 or somehting [01:47]
deadweasel work faster! [01:47]
mircea_popescu smickles lolz! [01:47]
deadweasel well that was just good business sense, smickles... [01:47]
Bowjob I need to beef my security up [01:47]
mircea_popescu it was totally overpriced so. [01:47]
smickles mircea_popescu: i kept a lot too, (and i think i put an extra 0 in there) [01:48]
mircea_popescu :p [01:48]
deadweasel Bowjob: your auth.log not looking so hot? [01:48]
[\\\] smickles, decimals are magic.. you can add as many as you want after the decimal [01:48]
deadweasel i hate those random attempts at root [01:48]
[\\\] you could have added like 200 of them [01:48]
Bowjob huh [01:48]
Bowjob i dont follow [01:49]
[\\\] I sold a ton of s.mpoe at .00020000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 [01:49]
[\\\] rich! [01:49]
smickles lol [01:49]
Bowjob electrum keeps saying synchronizing [01:49]
[\\\] it is having a hard time adding 0 [01:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01993 BTC [+] [01:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 328 @ 0.00075921 = 0.249 BTC [-] [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.0007592 = 2.2776 BTC [-] [01:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00075919 = 2.2017 BTC [-] [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2849 @ 0.00075675 = 2.156 BTC [-] [01:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.004999 = 4.999 BTC [-] [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 999 @ 0.00499999 = 4.995 BTC [+] [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 201 @ 0.005 = 1.005 BTC [+] [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6623 @ 0.0051 = 33.7773 BTC [+] [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 26004 @ 0.005598 = 145.5704 BTC [+] [01:53]
Bowjob fixed it [01:54]
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Bowjob ;;goxlag [01:58]
gribble 0.002989 seconds [01:58]
Bowjob llticker [01:58]
Bowjob ;;ticker [01:58]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.50000, Best ask: 63.70002, Bid-ask spread: 0.20002, Last trade: 63.70002, 24 hour volume: 92771.15913148, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 61.99830 [01:58]
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Bowjob litecoin nosedive [01:59]
benkay dunno if that counts as an 'asset' anymore. [02:00]
benkay ;) [02:00]
Bowjob I feel like eating steak [02:01]
Bowjob mhm [02:01]
Bowjob juicy rare steak. [02:01]
Bowjob nomnomnom [02:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858989 BTC [+] [02:02]
kakobrekla whats with litecoin? [02:05]
Bowjob its keeping its fiat value [02:05]
dub ok Bowjob is retarded [02:05]
Bowjob but dropping against btc [02:05]
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Bowjob what [02:07]
mircea_popescu the latest in mp arrogance : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/strategic-superiority-the-saga-continues/ [02:09]
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ThickAsThieves lol i'm gettin crunk with my floor guys [02:10]
ThickAsThieves first they wanted to smoke, then drink, now they wanna rap over some beats [02:11]
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[\\\] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66802.msg1643203#msg1643203 [02:12]
benkay at first, I read that as "I am getting crunk with my floor, guys" [02:12]
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dub in related news, asicminer should be worht 3btc now [02:12]
kakobrekla hm? [02:13]
dub avalon is a failure [02:13]
kakobrekla ah dat [02:13]
dub AM is the only dog in the race [02:13]
mircea_popescu dub that's a point. [02:13]
kakobrekla well not rly [02:13]
mircea_popescu avalon did just faceplant on a nail [02:14]
dub from the top rope [02:14]
mircea_popescu whether that makes asicminer worth 3... [02:14]
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dub ;;bc,nethash [02:14]
gribble 48124.866899322158 [02:14]
topace_ i havent been following, what did avalon do? [02:14]
benkay url markdown's broken in that post [02:14]
Bowjob avalon is gonna take a vacation [02:15]
kakobrekla i have a feeling they found a meter free elec plug and now making exuse not to sell by increasing the price xD [02:15]
dub topace_: admitted to not having shipped batch 1, not having capability to ship batch 2 and charging moonbeams for batch 3 [02:15]
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topace_ dub: lol oh.. thats not good :p [02:15]
dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.msg1647013#msg1647013 ^ [02:15]
mircea_popescu topace_ increased their unit price 5x [02:15]
mircea_popescu but basically i think dub has it : they've decided not to ship but mine instead. [02:16]
mircea_popescu which they had been allegedly dfoing a little anyway (people reporting dusted units delivered) [02:16]
dub s/dub/kako [02:16]
mircea_popescu you know how scamming goes... today you dip a little [02:16]
mircea_popescu tomorrow you figure since you're dipping anyway might as well keep it all. [02:17]
mircea_popescu what's the worst that can happen ? they get a btctalk scammer tag and a chinese relic hunter is hired to track them down and "have a chat" ? [02:17]
mircea_popescu dub so perhaps asicminer figures the same and your 3 isn't gonna be 3 for very long. [02:18]
dub and Bowjob has a peurto libre (sp?) level case of stockholm [02:18]
mircea_popescu puerto [02:18]
Bowjob haha sure buddy. whatever makes you feel better [02:18]
benkay put zhou tong on the case [02:19]
dub spew moar miconisms troll [02:19]
dub forum needs a 'ignore people with anime avatars' widget [02:19]
dub guaranteed waste of electrons [02:20]
Bowjob who are you? i dont even know who you are [02:20]
Bowjob im flattered you care so much about it. thanks [02:20]
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topace_ and bfl is "stuck on their test rig" [02:23]
topace_ for a week now? [02:23]
kakobrekla bfl decided to refund customers in btc, you know 2 per and mine themselfs too [02:23]
Bowjob dub, you probably were offended by my bfl comments, someone's butthurt [02:23]
topace_ haha [02:23]
Bowjob and i dont have stockholm, I've covered my BTC purchase with fiat, actually [02:24]
dub lolwat [02:24]
dub im actually feeling a lot better about my bfl preorder now :) [02:24]
Bowjob haha i knew it. you were butthurt [02:25]
Bowjob keep it sore buddy [02:25]
benkay oh miners [02:25]
benkay so emotionally attached to their mining rigs [02:25]
[\\\] without miners, bitcoin would have no future [02:25]
benkay mine with a gpu [02:26]
dub if I was butthurt t'would not be due to you repasting the rampant threadshitting of the other clowns [02:26]
[\\\] mining with a gpu IS a miner [02:26]
benkay silicon ain't trivial [02:26]
[\\\] derp [02:26]
benkay slashes, let me finish before you jump down my throat [02:26]
kakobrekla you see what mister-stabintheface-bigg did https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155612.msg1650141#msg1650141 [02:26]
[\\\] benkay, then use punctuation. [02:26]
benkay asics are arguably bad for the ecosystem, [02:27]
[\\\] notice how the forum hasn't gotten any donations since January? [02:27]
benkay they cost a lot of money, and deliver a lot of hashing power to the purchasing entities. [02:27]
[\\\] benkay: you realize people said the same about gpu? [02:27]
benkay it's also hellza tricky to manufacture your own chips. not that i know from experience, never having sunk shitloads of money into a litho run and subsequent processing (knowing how much things cost in the first place). [02:28]
benkay this absurd focus on overpowered mining rigs is evident of an unhealthy focus on short term gains over long term tools to expand the bitcoin economy. [02:29]
mircea_popescu wait, drama ? [02:29]
[\\\] nah [02:29]
[\\\] another rocket scientist here to school the rest of us [02:29]
[\\\] save us from ourselves. [02:30]
mircea_popescu [\\\] why'd the forum fget donations tho ? so theymos can come up with weird financial schemes ? [02:30]
Bowjob oh, and nice use of stockholm by the way, irrc I was the first one who used it against BFL. I'm honored [02:30]
[\\\] yep [02:30]
[\\\] now we're gonna gonna split it up because one person can't hold it [02:30]
[\\\] and 2 of 3 is too complicated [02:30]
mircea_popescu i like dt https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155612.msg1650151#msg1650151 [02:31]
mircea_popescu why isn't he here! [02:31]
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mircea_popescu [\\\] i suppose you've seen the http://bitbet.us/bet/314/bitcointalk-org-treasurer-to-be-scammer-tagged/ [02:31]
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mircea_popescu a cool 200 bux riding on that atm [02:31]
[\\\] yes [02:31]
mircea_popescu even money too [02:31]
[\\\] mircea_popescu: at this point, its more than 200 bux [02:32]
[\\\] oh look, now its even more [02:32]
mircea_popescu ya i guess that's right [02:32]
[\\\] :-x [02:32]
mircea_popescu lol [02:32]
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mircea_popescu benkay no, actually, asics are a crucial step in securing the network. [02:32]
mircea_popescu w/o them we're playdough. [02:32]
benkay i'll give on that [02:33]
benkay still hold that the furor over their delivery to market is idiots. [02:33]
mircea_popescu and in a sense it's good that a bunch of no starter corps did it first [02:33]
mircea_popescu this way when somebody makes a real run, it's dented somewhat [02:33]
benkay sheeeit [02:33]
benkay i live in the forest [02:34]
benkay there are plenty of fabs here [02:34]
benkay gotta find some forward thinking intel folks [02:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2151 @ 0.00075675 = 1.6278 BTC [-] [02:34]
benkay granted, most are cubeslaves [02:34]
dub as a core developer, i look upon all Avalons as my son. i will send them to who believe us, not the faithless or buzzard. [02:35]
dub lewl [02:35]
mircea_popescu i think amd could actually do it [02:35]
mircea_popescu if someone could talk them into sinking the moneyz into it. [02:36]
mircea_popescu if bitcoin weren't so retarded we'd have all ny escorts by now [02:36]
mircea_popescu and then i could find a foxy chick to train for this mission of infiltrating amd top brass [02:36]
benkay a southern california stanford student would suffice [02:37]
benkay probably not as smart as a new york whore [02:37]
benkay but more likely to raise the funds for an asic round [02:37]
benkay plus local talent [02:38]
mircea_popescu local isn't so great. [02:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074461 = 3.7231 BTC [-] [02:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.98 = 5.94 BTC [-] [02:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99 BTC [+] [02:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3348 @ 0.0007446 = 2.4929 BTC [-] [02:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2552 @ 0.00074261 = 1.8951 BTC [-] [02:38]
mircea_popescu get rory & bruce in a fingertrap, 2014 sees 1mn asics delivered [02:39]
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benkay rory and bruce? [02:39]
mircea_popescu rory & bruce! [02:39]
tiberiusiv anyone notice the daily transactions have fallen from 75k to 45k [02:39]
benkay local talent is better than no talent, and silicon valley has plenty of chip facilities and fabless foundries. [02:39]
tiberiusiv https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions [02:39]
tiberiusiv satoshi dice die off? [02:40]
benkay constant value of transactions with decreased value of fiat currencies? [02:40]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv seems to me within normal noise [02:41]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P570T] 1 @ 0.07415034 BTC [-] [02:41]
jcpham herro [02:41]
jcpham what's new [02:41]
tiberiusiv does the confirmation time decrease with more hasing power? [02:41]
jcpham not necessarily [02:42]
jcpham no [02:42]
tiberiusiv https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-confirmation-time [02:42]
tiberiusiv new lows? [02:42]
pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: if I create and sell put options, and I want to buy them back before they exercise, how do I do that? [02:43]
kakobrekla it will retarget to 10 min every 2014 blocks or smth which is ~2weeks [02:43]
kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [02:43]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 by buying them back. [02:43]
gribble Current Blocks: 227033 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 774 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6269965.33146 | Estimated Percent Change: 29.34038 [02:43]
jcpham let me rephase, assuming all miners are "good" yes the linear thought is that confirmations should increase [02:43]
jcpham especially with pools ops increasing block size restrictions in their mined blocks [02:43]
pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: when I do that, should they be removed from the "To which add sums deposited as surety for 4th Friday settled option and future contracts" section? [02:43]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv confirmation time is a function of the ratio between implied hash and actual hash. [02:43]
jcpham introduce nefarious hashpower and that doesn't hold true [02:44]
mircea_popescu if diff retarget works on 20th and then miners do 30th, [02:44]
mircea_popescu you'll get 50% faster confirms. [02:44]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 nope [02:44]
pizzaman1337 why not? [02:44]
tiberiusiv are those in here with substantial bitcoin holdings hedging ? [02:44]
mircea_popescu why would it ? [02:44]
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tiberiusiv or just outright long [02:45]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv i sold ~1k btc, but not really doing much other than that. [02:45]
pizzaman1337 ok, yeah, I guess it doesn't [02:45]
pizzaman1337 doesn't need to [02:45]
jcpham hoooooold [02:45]
jcpham throw some more o's in there [02:45]
mircea_popescu i mean, when options expire, you get collateral - put value back from collateral + put value back from holdings [02:45]
mircea_popescu so it's nulled out, you jsut get your collateral back [02:46]
pizzaman1337 yeah, that makes sense. Helps keep track too. [02:46]
mircea_popescu ya [02:46]
mircea_popescu also makes things easier for the larger player [02:46]
tiberiusiv this latest move has been too far too fast [02:46]
mircea_popescu he creates put once buys/sells it 500 times or w.e [02:46]
pizzaman1337 Ok, I guess in two days I'll feel comfortable with this [02:46]
benkay or lose all of your money :D [02:46]
pizzaman1337 I'll learn something at least [02:47]
benkay that's the important thing. [02:47]
benkay earn or learn [02:48]
benkay too many focus on the former. [02:48]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg1647627#msg1647627 poor piuk [02:48]
pizzaman1337 benkay: that's why I'm only messing around with <10 options this month... [02:48]
benkay mircea_popescu: devops is hard yo [02:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1686 @ 0.00073845 = 1.245 BTC [-] [02:48]
mircea_popescu tell me about it. [02:49]
Chaang-Noi go to bed, btc is 64, wake up btc is 64... btc is same! not happened in forever... [02:49]
mircea_popescu he's in the shitspot of all time. unlike mpex he doesn't make infinite moneyz so he can't spend infinite moneyz, unlike mpoe he can't just go "heh, trade on irc fu". [02:49]
mircea_popescu he may still solve the problem by proxiing as he's trying, but it'll be more work needed [02:50]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi you went to bed wrongly. i went to bed it was 60 woke up 64 [02:50]
Chaang-Noi we did get a new atg to 66 i see [02:50]
Chaang-Noi ath [02:50]
Chaang-Noi crazy btc... [02:51]
Chaang-Noi come on 1000 [02:51]
tiberiusiv 1000 is highly improbable [02:51]
benkay disagree. 1000 is inevitable. [02:51]
[\\\] thats what they said about gold [02:51]
mircea_popescu inevitable, yes, but not short term. [02:51]
benkay not in vars :) [02:52]
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Chaang-Noi im willing to wait 2 to 5 years for 1000 [02:52]
TomServo what is short term in bitcoin time? [02:52]
[\\\] not inevitable [02:52]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv suppose the us fucks up. such as, california actually defaults. [02:52]
tiberiusiv california has very little debt [02:52]
[\\\] illinois will default before california [02:52]
mircea_popescu i've not been watching too closely. [02:52]
benkay whaddabout detroit? [02:52]
mircea_popescu texas defaults. [02:52]
tiberiusiv its like 150 billion [02:52]
[\\\] detroit already defaulted, no? [02:52]
tiberiusiv defaults are dollar positive [02:52]
mircea_popescu twice iirc [02:53]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv how do you figure ? [02:53]
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jcpham i heard bitcoin outperforms gold [02:53]
TomServo last i heard the state wanted to 'take over' detroit [02:53]
[\\\] they already did [02:53]
Chaang-Noi it did [02:53]
jcpham for like the first time in millenia [02:53]
tiberiusiv during a default fractional reserve lending works backwards and fiat dollars are destroyed, making the existing ones worth more [02:53]
tiberiusiv the surviving ones that is [02:53]
tiberiusiv thats what happend in late 08 [02:53]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv yes but we're not discussing that [02:54]
jcpham paradigm shift [02:54]
jcpham shiney metal less valuable [02:54]
jcpham newsflash [02:54]
mircea_popescu we're discussing perception. the 50-65 runup was pretty much all cyprus media circus [02:54]
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TomServo and FinCEN, right? [02:54]
jcpham maybe [02:54]
mircea_popescu yeah, but frankly i don't think anyone from outside much cared [02:54]
tiberiusiv 1000 bitcoin would mean the daily trade volume would have to be at least 100mil [02:54]
mircea_popescu fincen is important for insiders mostly. [02:54]
the-bucket-shop I think 50-65 was FinCEN saying it's not illegal to accept btc [02:55]
tiberiusiv there would have to be huge liquidity [02:55]
[\\\] most people don't even really understand what fincen means [02:55]
TomServo I think the topic being mentioned at that level means something at least. [02:55]
jcpham bitcoin foundation blog say ignore it kinda [02:55]
jcpham iana [02:55]
mircea_popescu [\\\] has it. fincen is important for people in the know. deeply in the know [02:55]
[\\\] hell, half the people in the know don't know [02:56]
jcpham ^ [02:56]
mircea_popescu well that's because there's two knows. [02:56]
[\\\] the report released right now is only guidance [02:56]
[\\\] nothing's technically changed [02:56]
[\\\] but something could change [02:56]
tiberiusiv fincen recieves so many suspiscious transactions a day its impossible to analyze them all [02:56]
jcpham america is one big ? [02:56]
jcpham then there is the rest of the world [02:56]
[\\\] jcpham: fuckyup? [02:56]
mircea_popescu jcpham oneplus. [02:56]
tiberiusiv kind of like the stazi in east germany, they collected so much data on people it just overwhelmed them and they couldnt do anything [02:56]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv they didn't collect it lol. peopel just kept calling it in. [02:57]
tiberiusiv lol [02:57]
tiberiusiv government bodies tend to be highly ineffective [02:57]
jcpham means to an end [02:58]
jcpham effectiveness is in the ends [02:58]
jcpham they've grown ineffetive [02:58]
Chaang-Noi FinCEN to me means soon large investers, lije hedge funds will pour money in, might be happening now [02:59]
[\\\] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.msg1650310#msg1650310 [02:59]
[\\\] Chaang-Noi: shouldn't you be off with your rice? [02:59]
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jcpham bitcoin has been perfect for hedging since day one [02:59]
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TomServo regarding cyprus, how in the WORLD does a topic like that just get bandied about in politics? [03:00]
Chaang-Noi but hard to pour in millions and millions [03:00]
jcpham volatility,laws, and time are the problems [03:00]
tiberiusiv chaang-noi: if that was true we would see tighter bid/asks [03:00]
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tiberiusiv doesnt take much to knock the price back to 50 [03:00]
Chaang-Noi right now they are all buyers, they have noting to sell yet [03:00]
jcpham [\\\] haters gon hate [03:00]
[\\\] jcpham: I actually thought he made a good point [03:00]
tiberiusiv i thought the depositers got a great deal in cyrpys [03:01]
tiberiusiv cyprus* [03:01]
jcpham i'm still reading [03:01]
jcpham last comment [03:01]
mircea_popescu [\\\] of course he has a point. old elite gettingstomped is always a good time to nostalgia. [03:02]
[\\\] all the fail in the community isn't a good thing. [03:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2364 @ 0.00073845 = 1.7457 BTC [-] [03:03]
jcpham wait... who is the community again [03:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4286 @ 0.00073772 = 3.1619 BTC [-] [03:04]
mircea_popescu come on midnightmagic, here it is : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.msg1649131#msg1649131 [03:04]
jcpham i thought everyone had their own walled gardens by now [03:04]
mircea_popescu i have this delicious crow stu, you hungry yet ? [03:04]
[\\\] jcpham: I forgot this was compuserve [03:04]
jcpham should've built your castle by now [03:04]
jcpham complete with moat [03:04]
tiberiusiv mircea: why did you choose to return to romania vs other EU destinations? [03:05]
jcpham in the age of kings who is your ally? [03:05]
[\\\] my moat runneth deap [03:05]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv timisoara particularly is conveniently placed. [03:05]
mircea_popescu let me dig the article up for you [03:06]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-i-raspundem-dara-tinarului/#comment-86305 [03:06]
[\\\] .bait [03:06]
mircea_popescu if gt fucks it up too badly i'll clarify. [03:06]
[\\\] what happened to that bot? :( [03:07]
jcpham dude that blog is in funny symbols [03:07]
jcpham what does it mean brah [03:07]
mircea_popescu it's a mystery [03:08]
tiberiusiv mircea: personal freedoms in RO vs US? [03:09]
mircea_popescu there's personal freedoms in the us ? [03:09]
jcpham what is th 2006-2007 cacriza [03:09]
jcpham wtf are you talking about [03:09]
mircea_popescu that crisis [03:09]
jcpham is this vortex mathmatics [03:10]
jcpham i heard about that on a TEd talk once [03:10]
mircea_popescu jcpham secret hashing recipe [03:10]
tiberiusiv i think you made a good choice vs new zealand [03:11]
jcpham http://youtu.be/7pvuTZ5u6Kg [03:11]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv let me give you a very good example that just happened recently. [03:12]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-love-romania-a-guide-for-the-us-citizen/ [03:12]
jcpham photons don't have mass mircea_popescu [03:12]
mircea_popescu depends what definition of mass you use [03:13]
jcpham you should really watch that youtube [03:13]
jcpham learn something new for the oix metrics [03:13]
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mircea_popescu lol [03:15]
mircea_popescu each oix weighs approximately the same as a sheep. [03:15]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.91 = 2.73 BTC [+] [03:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.92 BTC [+] [03:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.92 BTC [+] [03:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.92 = 3.68 BTC [+] [03:20]
Chaang-Noi low 90s nice [03:20]
tiberiusiv mircea: how is the cost of living there? [03:20]
Chaang-Noi if add in the dividends that is like 1 btc a share [03:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.928 BTC [+] [03:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.921 BTC [-] [03:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.921 BTC [-] [03:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9289 BTC [+] [03:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.929 = 2.787 BTC [+] [03:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.929 = 2.787 BTC [+] [03:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.929 BTC [+] [03:24]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv minimum wage ~500 lei / month. comes to 150 bux [03:24]
tiberiusiv how do people eat? [03:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.47249999 BTC [-] [03:25]
Namworld Cheaper prices... [03:25]
tiberiusiv namworld: they are in the EU so any cheaper goods would get exported out [03:26]
Chaang-Noi average wage here is $200 a month [03:26]
dub out of tubes in the case of fish [03:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.195 = 0.585 BTC [-] [03:26]
tiberiusiv chaang: thailand? [03:27]
Chaang-Noi 150 a month in europe seems low [03:27]
Chaang-Noi yeah thailand [03:27]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv about like italians, maybe a little better. [03:27]
mircea_popescu certainly has the world's best champagne, for instance. [03:27]
tiberiusiv price for pack of marlboro reds? [03:28]
mircea_popescu lots of agricultural tradition, probably the oldest continuously farmed land in europe outside of italy proper. [03:28]
mircea_popescu like 3-4 dollars in the supermarkets. [03:28]
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tiberiusiv i find it hard to believe you can survive on 150 a month [03:30]
mircea_popescu you can't. [03:31]
mircea_popescu that's the entire fucking point. [03:31]
mircea_popescu money has no value if everyone can survive on minimal wage. that's socialism. [03:31]
mircea_popescu you want to survive, you'd better start doing something useful. [03:31]
tiberiusiv guess youve got a point [03:32]
tiberiusiv whats the average salary then? [03:32]
Namworld People here can survive on minimum wage =/ [03:32]
Namworld Same for US I guess. [03:32]
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tiberiusiv in US its somewhat possible [03:32]
tiberiusiv but youd be living in near 3rd world level [03:33]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv about 500 bux [03:33]
TomServo easily possible once you starting cracking out the kids [03:33]
mircea_popescu Namworld that's precisely why canada/us suck. [03:33]
dub jesus [03:33]
dub pack of smoeks is ~$20 here [03:33]
dub smokes* [03:33]
tiberiusiv 13 in canada when i was there [03:33]
tiberiusiv and min wage was like $11 [03:33]
mircea_popescu you can just plant your own tobacco, costs you about 1 cent per leaf or something [03:33]
smickles i lived on min wage once [03:34]
tiberiusiv canadian mcdonalds were pretty automated from the high minimum wage [03:34]
mircea_popescu it's not very good of course, but it's way better than any industrial crap. [03:34]
smickles i worked at a taco bell, saved up some money, bought some land [03:34]
mircea_popescu i dunno who still smokes ciggarettes with all the stuff they add [03:34]
tiberiusiv namworld: you cant survive on min wage in the US [03:34]
smickles there are cigs available w/o the additives [03:35]
Namworld Ah. [03:35]
Namworld Seems odd... I thought most were on or near minimum wage in most countries. [03:35]
tiberiusiv no [03:35]
tiberiusiv average US wage is about 22-24 per hour [03:35]
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smickles min wage in 'merica is sufficient for survival if you arn't a fucking dumbass [03:36]
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tiberiusiv what state? maybe in mississipi [03:36]
smickles missouri [03:37]
Namworld If you don't: Drink, smoke [03:37]
smickles i did tho [03:37]
Namworld and share an appartment [03:37]
smickles i didn't [03:37]
Namworld minimum wage is way more than needed... [03:37]
tiberiusiv dumpster dive [03:37]
tiberiusiv what planet are you living on namworld? [03:37]
Namworld Canada [03:37]
smickles I had a 1 room apt until i had enought to buy a plot of land and a cheep ass trailor [03:37]
tiberiusiv in canada you have to work 1 week @ minimum wage just to pay for car insurance [03:38]
dub in soviet canukistan wage minimums you [03:38]
tiberiusiv a pack of chips is like $4 [03:38]
Namworld 1 room appartment is too costly. Take a large one with co-tenants [03:38]
smickles 1 room apt was 250/month [03:38]
tiberiusiv 500sq ft apartments in toronto rent for like 1500 [03:38]
dub thats a big appt [03:39]
Namworld Well don't go live in fucking toronto downtown. [03:39]
dub oh wait, foot [03:39]
dub silly imperials [03:39]
tiberiusiv namworld: anywhere else you need a car which is impossible to afford on min wage [03:39]
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tiberiusiv i was just in ontario for a few months [03:39]
smickles i had to have a car [03:39]
smickles i bought one for 300 usd [03:39]
smickles kept good care of it [03:39]
smickles upgraded to a scooter [03:39]
tiberiusiv its impossible to live in canada without a car [03:39]
smickles later a van [03:40]
tiberiusiv people were paying 200-400 a month in insurance from 1-2 speeding tickets lol [03:40]
tiberiusiv 20 per hour is poverty in canada imo [03:40]
smickles the scooter was awesome b/c it had a small enough engine that the state considered it a bicycle [03:40]
smickles no insurance [03:40]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-we-aspersor/ [03:41]
tiberiusiv i was shocked how canadians live too [03:41]
mircea_popescu for the lulz. [03:41]
Namworld You can rent for 500 USD/month and have a 80$ monthly pass for public transit. Minimum wage is 10$ per hour so 400 per week or over 1600 per month. Cut 25% in taxes. [03:41]
tiberiusiv up at 6am to sit in traffic for 2 hours [03:41]
smickles i worke with plenty of people who couldn't manage their money, in their case 7.5/hr was not enough [03:41]
Namworld 1200 per month... you can live on that no problem in canada. [03:41]
smickles plus, they often refused to work more than 20hrs a week [03:41]
tiberiusiv namworld: you realize thats 50% below government povery line? [03:42]
mircea_popescu smickles> upgraded to a scooter ahahaha [03:42]
tiberiusiv canadian government classifies under 24k a year income as poverty [03:42]
Namworld What poverty line? You lack nothing on minimum wages. [03:42]
dub I pay $1400/m in rent [03:42]
jborkl minimun wage pays effective federal tax [03:42]
smickles mircea_popescu: it was a better vehicle than the 82 mazda b2000 [03:42]
tiberiusiv the high min wage means prices are sky high [03:42]
jborkl no [03:43]
mircea_popescu dub i pay like triple that in servers. [03:43]
Namworld That may be. But it's feasible if you don't waste money. [03:43]
tiberiusiv you cant legislate prosperity [03:43]
tiberiusiv namworld: eating is wasting money? [03:43]
mircea_popescu the only thing you can legislate is laziness. [03:43]
jborkl minimum wage is 8 or so [03:43]
dub mircea_popescu: thats business expense not personal [03:43]
Namworld It's freakin not waste! [03:43]
tiberiusiv minimum wage in ontario was 10.50+ last time i was there [03:43]
mircea_popescu dub i get personal about busienss [03:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4864 @ 0.00073772 = 3.5883 BTC [-] [03:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7782 @ 0.00073752 = 5.7394 BTC [-] [03:43]
tiberiusiv a mcdonalds meal came to $10 [03:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8258 @ 0.00073383 = 6.06 BTC [-] [03:43]
jborkl realistic lowest wage paid to a adult is about 11 [03:43]
smickles 10.5 cad, wow [03:43]
tiberiusiv pack of smokes $12, chips $4 [03:44]
dub mircea_popescu: I pay a lot more than that in mortgage repayments too [03:44]
Namworld WTF MAN! You don't need a freakin 1500/month appartment or eat 10$ meals at McD to survive! [03:44]
tiberiusiv car insurance 200-400 on a honda civic per month [03:44]
Namworld Chips are not 4$ and smokes... well really, smoking does cost a lot. [03:44]
tiberiusiv namworld: mcdonalds is cheaper then groceries [03:44]
Namworld NO, for fuck's sake, NO! [03:44]
tiberiusiv namworld: are you aware an average home costs 650,000 in ontario? [03:44]
smickles yeah, a good part of how i did well on 7.5/hr was that i cooked my own meals, had a veggie garden [03:44]
Namworld No car on minimum wage, but public transit, what's wrong with that? [03:44]
Chaang-Noi in australia shit is crazy high cuz of the boom, i was told about 12$ bananas [03:45]
smickles lived outside the city [03:45]
tiberiusiv canadians survive on credit cards and home loans [03:45]
Namworld Well don't buy a 650k house in Ontario man... [03:45]
tiberiusiv ive never seen such a population loaded on credit [03:45]
Chaang-Noi in AU a guy drives a truck on a mine and makes $150k a year... [03:45]
smickles serfs [03:45]
jborkl alot of the us is too big for public transportation [03:45]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv the us isnt much better. [03:45]
tiberiusiv public transportation sucks unless its those 300km/h trains [03:46]
smickles he who can manage his money is god among men [03:46]
smickles apparently [03:46]
mircea_popescu smickles among women. [03:46]
Chaang-Noi bitches like money [03:46]
smickles discount the eunics [03:46]
smickles spelling -_- [03:46]
tiberiusiv namworld: in canada to live well, ie go on vacation once a year and have stuff you need to earn 15k a month pretax [03:47]
tiberiusiv or else you just grinding paycheck to paycheck [03:47]
mircea_popescu meanwhile 15k a year in romania gets you two households with their women and children [03:47]
Namworld 15k a month? are you crazy? [03:47]
dub if you think eating mcdonals 3 meals a day is living well.. [03:47]
tiberiusiv namworld: i lived there for 2 years [03:48]
smickles tiberiusiv: i don't know you, but you might benefit by traveling a little [03:48]
tiberiusiv dub: poor people eat mcdonalds in canada [03:48]
smickles why? [03:48]
tiberiusiv for $10 you get enough calories for the day [03:48]
mircea_popescu the internet still the great social class mixer i see, bringing together those who otherwise would never meet. [03:48]
smickles why not eat boiled potatoes or smt [03:48]
mircea_popescu smickles scurvy [03:48]
Namworld tiberius: I can do the same on 2.5 per day if I wanted on regular groceries... [03:48]
tiberiusiv man how many times are you going to repeat that [03:49]
smickles mircea_popescu: an orange can't be that hard to come by [03:49]
Namworld I like a little bit of luxury in my diet tho. [03:49]
tiberiusiv toronto for example is more expensive then NYC [03:49]
mircea_popescu yes. octopussy salad! [03:49]
dub yall niggas nee aquaponics [03:49]
tiberiusiv with half the income [03:49]
dub grow food and FISH [03:49]
smickles dub: fishing is awesome, even when since i had enough money to not have to do it, i still like pulling a fish out of the river for dinner [03:50]
Namworld There's tons of people living on less than 2k per month that don't lack anything. They have plenty of food, decent appartment, everything they need. You don't need 15k per month to survive. If you can't live without that kind of money... well really, I don't know what to say. [03:50]
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dub smickles: I go fishing maybe once a wekk avg over summer [03:50]
tiberiusiv http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Toronto&country2=Romania&city2=Timisoara [03:51]
dub smickles: got a kayak setup with sonar etc [03:51]
tiberiusiv You would need around 6,552.20lei (1,967.29C$) in Timisoara to maintain [03:51]
tiberiusiv the same standard of life that you can have with 4,900.00C$ in Toronto [03:51]
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smickles dub: lol, i just need to look at the water/land to know where the fish are [03:51]
dub well the fact that you said river.. [03:52]
mircea_popescu you can;'t realy compare romanian local cheese to canadian tho [03:52]
smickles i usually walk the bank [03:52]
dub I prefer salt water fish [03:52]
mircea_popescu romanian cheese is like the expensive imported french gourmet stuff [03:52]
Namworld I thought the point was about having enough to live by without living from check to check [03:52]
tiberiusiv surviving on min wage in ontario is impossible [03:53]
tiberiusiv youd have to get third hand clothes [03:53]
tiberiusiv wait behind restaurants for unfinished plates [03:53]
smickles cuz you can't survive w/ 3rd hand clothes [03:53]
Namworld I think you mean Toronto, really. Not Ontario... [03:54]
tiberiusiv you need a car in ontario and the running cost is high [03:54]
tiberiusiv that would eat up 50% of your min wage salary [03:54]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg1650521#msg1650521 [03:55]
kakobrekla BFL update [03:55]
kakobrekla or sumtn [03:55]
tiberiusiv in fuel, gas repairs [03:55]
Chaang-Noi hmm [03:55]
smickles mircea_popescu: did you fix that url in 'strategic superiority' [03:55]
smickles s/url/link/ [03:55]
Namworld tiberius... I don't know of anybody with a car costing them 600 per month... [03:55]
mircea_popescu smickles ye [03:56]
Chaang-Noi lol at prototype, and lol anyone who is shocked at this, they claimed they never had anyhting working, and if their chip run was bad, ohhh lulz [03:56]
Namworld and you don't need a car, it is almost impossible on minimum wage. [03:56]
Namworld Although a bit cheaper than what you say. [03:56]
Namworld Unless you buy a new car every few years [03:56]
tiberiusiv if you are poor i think you are better off being poor in US then canada [03:56]
tiberiusiv because you can move to a warm state and at least have the climate [03:56]
mircea_popescu by early to mid next week. Should be pretty smooth sailing after that." [03:57]
mircea_popescu hahaha this is the 100th time [03:57]
kakobrekla 150th. [03:57]
Namworld idk about Toronto because I've never seen the prices there. [03:57]
mircea_popescu hey, this is how they get the th! [03:57]
dub tbh, you don't prototype an asic [03:57]
mircea_popescu dub you just wish it real hard. [03:57]
dub you know what im saying [03:58]
Namworld But really, from what I know, you're not on 3rd hand clothes or living on fast food on minimum wage. You have plenty of good food, new clothes, decent appartment and eveything on a minimum wage. No car, no vacation. But you have enough money, can spare to make savings and have sufficient extra money to spoil yourself a bit. [03:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9289 BTC [-] [03:59]
Namworld Maybe not in Toronto [03:59]
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tiberiusiv namworld: you are so full of it im not going to continue, the government in canada classifies anyone under 22k a year as poverty [03:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.929 BTC [+] [04:00]
Namworld But those price you mentions are not representative of what I'm accustomed to. [04:00]
tiberiusiv the prices were high for everything there [04:00]
mircea_popescu 2k * 12 = 24 k tho [04:00]
tiberiusiv namworld you must be living in the middle of nowhere, self sufficient [04:00]
tiberiusiv public transport is none existant in ontario [04:00]
tiberiusiv the trains are 50 years old [04:00]
Namworld I live in Montreal. [04:00]
tiberiusiv well montreal is a little different [04:01]
tiberiusiv and thats in quebec [04:01]
Namworld It's also Canada. [04:01]
tiberiusiv quebec cost of living is 30-40% lower then ontario since half the population is poor [04:01]
tiberiusiv and montreal is more european then american [04:01]
Namworld Your prices are for Toronto. And toronto jobs tend to pay much more than minimum wages. So are living costs. [04:01]
tiberiusiv min wage in quebec is like $4 isnt it? [04:02]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg1650582#msg1650582 [04:02]
Namworld 10$ [04:02]
Namworld I think it got raised recently, maybe more than that. [04:02]
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ThickAsThieves !ticker [04:03]
assbot Some are born to endless night. [04:03]
ThickAsThieves !estimate [04:03]
ThickAsThieves &ticker [04:03]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.65552, Best ask: 64.74999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09447, Last trade: 64.74999, 24 hour volume: 92565.60276454, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.28030 [04:03]
assbot ill estimate you! [04:03]
Namworld oh, $9.90, 10.15 starting may 1st [04:03]
Namworld You probably struggle on minimum wage in Toronto, but wages are higher there, just like rents. [04:04]
tiberiusiv quebec has 20% youth unemployment rate thanks to the min wage [04:04]
Namworld Possibly the same in Vancouver. [04:04]
tiberiusiv 10 min wage in a poor place like QC lol only in canada [04:04]
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Namworld QC ain't really poorer than the rest of Canada. [04:06]
tiberiusiv montreal is probably my favorite city in canada [04:07]
Namworld We're talking about something like 1/8th less than Ontario I think. [04:07]
Namworld Per capita [04:07]
tiberiusiv the roads are third world though in QC [04:07]
Namworld oh... yeah. Roads ain't nice [04:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.05710373 = 57.1037 BTC [-] [04:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.0512055 = 51.2055 BTC [-] [04:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.0512055 = 51.2055 BTC [-] [04:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.0512055 = 51.2055 BTC [-] [04:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.0512055 = 51.2055 BTC [-] [04:08]
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Namworld I think we might just not have the same definition of minimum needed. [04:11]
smickles woah, what is the table trader doing [04:11]
smickles at face value, that looks like a hard short [04:11]
smickles ;;ticker [04:11]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.30000, Best ask: 64.40174, Bid-ask spread: 0.10174, Last trade: 64.40175, 24 hour volume: 92312.92023534, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.32727 [04:11]
Namworld or Toronto prices are really high... but wages there are among the highests in Canada. [04:11]
smickles ;;calc 55/(1-.057) [04:11]
gribble 58.3244962884 [04:11]
smickles ;;calc 55/(1.057) [04:11]
gribble 52.0340586566 [04:11]
smickles ;;calc 47/(1.051) [04:12]
gribble 44.7193149382 [04:12]
smickles i guess that was cutting losses from earlier ? [04:12]
smickles ?? [04:12]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.05693195 = 56.932 BTC [-] [04:13]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.05359251 = 53.5925 BTC [+] [04:13]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.05359251 = 53.5925 BTC [+] [04:13]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.05359251 = 53.5925 BTC [+] [04:13]
mircea_popescu smickles i think this is shorts being closed [04:13]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.05359251 = 53.5925 BTC [+] [04:13]
tiberiusiv really would like to see a stronger bid wall [04:13]
smickles ah, i see that on the chart now [04:13]
mircea_popescu iirc these were sold at ~ .2-.3 [04:13]
mircea_popescu i guess he's buying it back on the theory that he doesn't want to earn that last .05 at the risk of one full week [04:13]
smickles certainly [04:14]
tiberiusiv great short [04:14]
pizzaman1337 is the fourth friday not the 22nd? [04:14]
mircea_popescu last friday of month [04:14]
pizzaman1337 ah, I thought I read fourth [04:15]
mircea_popescu if you did link me [04:15]
mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P050T [04:15]
mircea_popescu All options expire on the last minute of the last Friday of their month (UTC times). [04:15]
mircea_popescu like [04:15]
kakobrekla > goat: well yeah, you know, this almost sounds like a scam :/ [on BFL] <- lol your standards [04:16]
pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: maybe I'm not interpreting this correctly, but from stat: "To which add sums deposited as surety for 4th Friday settled option and future contracts" [04:16]
smickles futures are diff [04:17]
mircea_popescu i guess that should read last friday huh [04:17]
pizzaman1337 :P [04:17]
mircea_popescu thing is, to make the thing real crazy, futures (the fiat ones) used to be settled 4th friday [04:17]
pizzaman1337 I was wondering why the options mpexbot had up seemed high [04:17]
mircea_popescu and the diff ones are settled imm dates [04:17]
smickles futures are diff, love the pun [04:18]
smickles :D [04:18]
mircea_popescu lol [04:18]
smickles $vwap ^oix [04:19]
mpexbot smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 56.18724421 high: 57.56498348 low: 51.19715374 volume: 10790 btc: 1011.43642332 30 day: no data [04:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.05682571 = 56.8257 BTC [-] [04:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.05351801 = 53.518 BTC [-] [04:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.05351801 = 53.518 BTC [-] [04:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.05351801 = 53.518 BTC [-] [04:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.05351801 = 53.518 BTC [-] [04:20]
error4733 gentleman be ready ! i'm bullish but i smell a huge correction ! [04:21]
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error4733 *hope [04:21]
tiberiusiv could easily go back to 50 [04:21]
tiberiusiv the bids are really thin [04:22]
mircea_popescu yeah it's quite possible. [04:22]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [04:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.10001, Best ask: 64.38999, Bid-ask spread: 0.28998, Last trade: 64.38999, 24 hour volume: 91573.17154420, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.35274 [04:22]
mircea_popescu actually already moving back a little. [04:22]
mircea_popescu "Given that Krugman is against bitcoin, the thing is certain to succeed." [04:23]
pizzaman1337 the mpex bot didn't price all of those options at 0.05351801, did it? how did they close at that level? (did the person trading have limit orders?) [04:24]
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mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 it did [04:27]
mircea_popescu if you look at the book all puts under 50 or so sell for 0.05351801 [04:28]
Namworld yup [04:28]
pizzaman1337 why the same level? [04:28]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 because it needs to protect the book. [04:28]
mircea_popescu otherwise you could go 100k btc into mpoe bonds, then just buy cheap options and siphon interest away [04:29]
pizzaman1337 ah [04:29]
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Namworld true. There's a minimum price for options. [04:30]
jcpham so vortex math [04:32]
jcpham thoughts [04:32]
PAPASO hi,any chinese friend here? [04:32]
mircea_popescu not unless rick comes by PAPASO [04:32]
PAPASO 这里有咱国人吗？ [04:32]
mircea_popescu i'm sorry, i don't speak chinese. [04:32]
mircea_popescu what do you need tho ? [04:32]
smickles mircea_popescu: lol, you hate the chiners? [04:32]
mircea_popescu i do ? [04:33]
smickles heh, it's just the way you answered [04:33]
PAPASO yes, i want to trade option [04:33]
mircea_popescu that's not too hard. [04:33]
mircea_popescu do you have a mpex account ? [04:33]
Namworld BTC/USD options? MPEx [04:33]
smickles it could be implied that noone here is friendly to the chinese other than rick. which isn't true ofc [04:33]
PAPASO buy i dont know how to use this system [04:33]
mircea_popescu there is a faq chinese version tho. [04:34]
mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/faq_cn.html [04:34]
mircea_popescu not sure how good it is, but should mostly work. [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1146 @ 0.00072637 = 0.8324 BTC [-] [04:34]
mircea_popescu you can also contact the guy for help. [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133 @ 0.00072637 = 0.0966 BTC [-] [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00071967 = 1.7272 BTC [-] [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071778 = 7.1778 BTC [-] [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 725 @ 0.05677964 = 41.1652 BTC [-] [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 725 @ 0.05225451 = 37.8845 BTC [-] [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 725 @ 0.05225451 = 37.8845 BTC [-] [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 725 @ 0.05225451 = 37.8845 BTC [-] [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 725 @ 0.05225451 = 37.8845 BTC [-] [04:34]
pizzaman1337 if I'm doing my math right, it seems that person made > ~$100k? crazy [04:36]
smickles "There’s a reason supplying works a certain way. I order the goods, you deliver the goods within a couple of days and get paid within a couple of months. NOT the other way around. Never the other way around." mircea_popescu you must have a look at the kickstarter model [04:36]
mircea_popescu smickles what do you mean ? [04:36]
smickles you pay for and order the goods, then they company may or may not even make the product, if they do, you might not get it [04:36]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 i think about 5k x 5 x .20 or so btc [04:37]
mircea_popescu so prolly like 300k [04:37]
pizzaman1337 oh, I must have missed some previous orders [04:37]
mircea_popescu smickles haha. that ain't a model [04:37]
pizzaman1337 that's pretty awesome [04:37]
smickles pizzaman1337: the neat thing is they do it over and over [04:37]
pizzaman1337 I need more BTC, I want to play this game too... [04:37]
mircea_popescu ya last month they lost like 5k i think [04:37]
Namworld It's a game with huge losses and huge gains... [04:38]
mircea_popescu as in, shorted puts, price collapsed, covered same day [04:38]
pizzaman1337 yeah, that would hurt [04:38]
mircea_popescu but yes, you can make a pretty penny if you have the capital [04:38]
mircea_popescu and certainly huge roi [04:38]
mircea_popescu course... if you're wrong... [04:39]
mod6 (19:24) < mircea_popescu> "Given that Krugman is against bitcoin, the thing is certain to succeed." << one of the best comments on that ZH article [04:40]
Chaang-Noi new high [04:40]
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mircea_popescu mod6 :p [04:40]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [04:40]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.20000, Best ask: 64.41999, Bid-ask spread: 0.21999, Last trade: 64.41999, 24 hour volume: 91269.99747505, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.38443 [04:40]
Chaang-Noi oh nvm [04:40]
mircea_popescu notrly. [04:40]
Chaang-Noi i forgot we hit 66 when i was sleeping [04:40]
mod6 well, i thought it was funny anyway. [04:40]
Chaang-Noi we spiked up to 65.3 and i got all tingely for nothing [04:41]
mircea_popescu so is Luke-Jr going back to bfl by early to mid next week ? [04:41]
Chaang-Noi lol he has to go back now? [04:41]
mircea_popescu well... [04:41]
Chaang-Noi why did he even go again? [04:41]
mircea_popescu they're making an entirely new pcb no ? [04:41]
Chaang-Noi i guess i dont understand what he is doing there [04:42]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi basically, he's trying to prop bfl. [04:42]
Chaang-Noi prop? [04:42]
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mircea_popescu course it's much like inaba trying to prop bfl, you don't prop flagging scams with retarded trolls. [04:42]
mircea_popescu to prop, you know, stick a bit of wood in the way of a collapsing wall [04:42]
Chaang-Noi yeah, i dont think that is going to work cuz they keep going home with nothiong [04:43]
tiberiusiv is BFL processing refunds? [04:43]
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Chaang-Noi in fiat if at all [04:43]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv so far they claim to. [04:43]
mircea_popescu but basically people get a 95% haircut if they refund, so... [04:43]
Chaang-Noi i think there is a rule that you have to wait 3 months after ordering or something [04:43]
Chaang-Noi but i have not seen many people bitching [04:43]
mircea_popescu no, they pretty much get to walk away with whatever they scammed off the idiots thinking they're the btc "community" [04:44]
tiberiusiv but the BTcs were instantly sold by bitpay [04:44]
Chaang-Noi your girl thinks bitcoin community = WoT [04:44]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi btc finance certainly is. [04:44]
Chaang-Noi lol [04:44]
tiberiusiv basic refunds were like 80% haircuts [04:44]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv pretty much. [04:45]
tiberiusiv BFL would be massively insolvent if they had to issue full BTC refunds [04:45]
mircea_popescu so then let's make a new deal : you can't refund btc, you can't take btc. [04:45]
Chaang-Noi friedcat has a W0T account? lulz [04:45]
mircea_popescu sell in fiat. [04:45]
tiberiusiv i agree mircea [04:45]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi you think he's in finance ? [04:45]
dub ;;getrating friedcat [04:45]
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dub ;;ident friedcat [04:46]
tiberiusiv well they used BTC as a medium of exchange [04:46]
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dub ;;gpg info friedcat [04:46]
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mircea_popescu tiberiusiv still a horrible deal. [04:46]
Chaang-Noi selling stock to get money to build a company, if that is not finance i dont know what it is [04:46]
tiberiusiv agreed [04:46]
mircea_popescu it's actually worse than the usual glbse / usagi crap. [04:46]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi it isn't. that's founding. [04:46]
tiberiusiv what ended up being the reason for glbse closing [04:46]
mircea_popescu he did it without advisory and he fucked it up pretty good. [04:46]
Chaang-Noi selling stock not finacne, okay [04:47]
tiberiusiv advisory? [04:47]
mircea_popescu you know how companies floating themselves retain the services of banks ? [04:47]
mircea_popescu this is because companies are not in finance, they are in whatever the fuck their ops are. [04:47]
mircea_popescu retail or services or making oil rigsd [04:47]
Chaang-Noi mp try this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finance [04:47]
Chaang-Noi friedcat did his own finance clearly, he did not hire a bank... [04:48]
Chaang-Noi he can do morethan 1 thing at 1 time... [04:48]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi how about you try http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/wikipedia-the-special-olympics-for-the-mentally-retarded/ instead. [04:48]
Chaang-Noi lose an argument, have nothing left but insults, classy :/ [04:48]
Chaang-Noi at least i admit when i fuck up [04:49]
mircea_popescu you come quoting wikipedia in this discussion insults are too good a fate. [04:49]
smickles lol, that pic "wall street, the center of american finance" with what looks like a highwayman and a security camera looking the other way [04:49]
mircea_popescu anyway, tiberiusiv : nobody really knows. my theory is the head chav got a bad dose, went psychotic, thought da polis is after him, deleted everythign [04:49]
mircea_popescu probably flushed some usb sticks down the toilet too [04:50]
mircea_popescu in the heat of the moment. [04:50]
tiberiusiv lol [04:50]
mod6 haha smickles! [04:50]
mircea_popescu of course simple idiopathic schizophrenia always works as an explanation too. it doesn't have to be drugs. [04:51]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.929 = 1.858 BTC [+] [04:51]
smickles typical onset is early adulthood, no? [04:51]
mircea_popescu yes. [04:51]
Chaang-Noi ;;getrating usagi [04:51]
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mircea_popescu well... 30s, 40s or 50s. the later the milder. [04:51]
Chaang-Noi ohh finance! i get it now [04:51]
mircea_popescu but usually there;'s episodes first, before full blown tableau. [04:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.93 = 4.65 BTC [+] [04:52]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi haha yes. usagi is in finance. [04:52]
mircea_popescu he just sucks at it massively. [04:52]
Chaang-Noi ;;getrating pirateat40 [04:52]
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Chaang-Noi ;;getrating foodstamps [04:53]
smickles ;;getrating f00d5t4mp [04:53]
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Chaang-Noi ;;getrating foodstamp [04:53]
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smickles bah, how to spell [04:53]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi a better traversal tool would be ;;gettrust mircea_popescu X [04:53]
ThickAsThieves ;;getrating ThickAsThieves [04:53]
Chaang-Noi oh he did some wierd ass numbers or something [04:53]
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Chaang-Noi ;;getrating burnside [04:53]
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Chaang-Noi ;;getrating nefario [04:53]
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smickles lol, PayPal has the worst cumulative rating [04:54]
smickles ;;getrating PayPal [04:54]
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mircea_popescu lol [04:54]
mircea_popescu how is dwolla doing ? [04:54]
smickles ;;getrating dwolla [04:54]
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smickles outofthe meme [04:55]
Chaang-Noi ;;getrating goat [04:55]
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mircea_popescu ;;rate urmom 1 cheap fast service would cum again+++ [04:55]
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Chaang-Noi im not in finace, never have been:) [04:55]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: I haven't left yet. [04:55]
Chaang-Noi do you know when you will go Luke-Jr? [04:56]
mircea_popescu Luke-Jr a, must have missed that announcement. [04:56]
Chaang-Noi Luke, you mean go again right? [04:56]
Chaang-Noi i thought you reported about the new building design? [04:56]
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smickles ;;getrating spain [04:57]
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smickles ;;getrating scottlad [04:57]
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Luke-Jr Chaang-Noi: I'll be back at their labs tomorrow morning.. [04:58]
Chaang-Noi cool [04:58]
Chaang-Noi i guess that means they must think they are progressing [04:58]
Luke-Jr and back home Friday evening, unless they ask me to stay and my wife gives the okay [04:58]
mircea_popescu Luke-Jr wait. you went or didn't go ? are you there now ? this is getting more and more self-contradictory. [04:58]
Luke-Jr but srsly, so bored here I'm not sure about staying much longer XD [04:58]
Chaang-Noi you in kc? [04:58]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: I arrived here last Thursday, and am still here now. [04:58]
mircea_popescu ow. [04:58]
mircea_popescu what ?! [04:59]
smickles my family lives in kc [04:59]
mircea_popescu you've been there A WEEK ?! [04:59]
Luke-Jr yes [04:59]
Chaang-Noi im from kcnot a whole lot to do [04:59]
mircea_popescu i'll brb, my jaw is somewhere [04:59]
Luke-Jr I lived in KC like 6 years ago [04:59]
Chaang-Noi only good place i know are places odds are you wont like [04:59]
Chaang-Noi i lived there like 12 years ago [04:59]
smickles wow, i love kc [04:59]
Chaang-Noi good bbq [04:59]
Chaang-Noi bad asics [05:00]
smickles the museums, pool halls [05:00]
mircea_popescu i dunno doods, if i went for a week's vacation it'd prolly not be kentucky. [05:00]
smickles disk golf [05:00]
mircea_popescu even if fried chicken. [05:00]
Luke-Jr all I have walking distance is a Sonic's [05:00]
mod6 they mean kansas city [05:00]
smickles fishing [05:00]
mod6 either way though lol [05:01]
mircea_popescu mod6 right, cause there's a difference >< [05:01]
[\\\] at least i admit when i fuck up << BULLSHIT [05:01]
smickles the footbal team sucks, but it's fun b/c the crowd really gets into it [05:01]
Luke-Jr lol [05:01]
Chaang-Noi i never said go to kc, but if you have to be there eat bbq [05:01]
Chaang-Noi yeah go chiefs, but last season... omg [05:01]
Luke-Jr dunno, KC was okay except for the complete lack of Catholic churches [05:01]
mod6 LOL [05:01]
mircea_popescu missouri has no churches ?! [05:01]
Diablo-D3 missouri is southern baptist territory [05:02]
mircea_popescu dudes how much have i been drinking tonight ? [05:02]
smickles isn't there a cathedral [05:02]
Luke-Jr KC doesn't [05:02]
Chaang-Noi Luke-Jr there used to be some, but the southern babtists took them over [05:02]
[\\\] Luke-Jr, they've probably got Catholic churches, just not the kind you approve of. [05:02]
Diablo-D3 lol [05:02]
Chaang-Noi my parents go to what used to be a catholic church [05:02]
mircea_popescu [\\\] uncatholic [05:02]
Diablo-D3 luke approves of nothing [05:02]
Diablo-D3 he doesnt even recognize the new pope [05:02]
mod6 you could drive to topeka and go to WBC [05:02]
[\\\] Diablo-D3: he approves of >25 BTC [05:02]
[\\\] Diablo-D3, he didn't recognize the last 4 [05:02]
mircea_popescu what was wrong with jp2 ? [05:02]
Diablo-D3 Im not catholic, but I didnt mind john paul II [05:02]
Luke-Jr mod6: Topeka is actually the nearest Catholic mission, and had Mass last Sunday that I couldn't get a ride to [05:03]
mircea_popescu also, http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-20/fleeing-the-euro-for-bitcoins-.html [05:03]
Diablo-D3 at least he tried to tackle the pedophile problem [05:03]
smickles also, kcmo isn't as good a kck [05:03]
Diablo-D3 no one else did [05:03]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: he wasn't a Catholic [05:03]
[\\\] lol [05:03]
[\\\] here we go again [05:03]
mircea_popescu the pope was insufficiently catholic ? [05:03]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: he wasn't a pope either [05:03]
Diablo-D3 hell, there was a second attempt on his life, one in the vatican will admit to [05:03]
Chaang-Noi topeka is pretty far away [05:03]
smickles that's why he retired [05:03]
Luke-Jr Chaang-Noi: hence why I moved out of KC [05:03]
[\\\] mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr's view of Catholicism doesn't match the 2Billion other Catholics' [05:03]
mircea_popescu smickles no, jp2 was before ratz [05:03]
Diablo-D3 the ring of pedophiles that control the vatican tried to kill him because he was trying to get rid of them [05:03]
Chaang-Noi where to? [05:03]
Luke-Jr [\\\]: it matches the 50 billion others ;P [05:03]
Diablo-D3 [\\\]: I dont blame him honestly [05:04]
Luke-Jr Chaang-Noi: Omaha, worst decision of my life [05:04]
Chaang-Noi lol [05:04]
Chaang-Noi oh man [05:04]
Diablo-D3 modern catholocism (ie, everything from 200AD on) is built on lies and fraud [05:04]
smickles i was almost born in omaha [05:04]
[\\\] Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr disagrees [05:04]
smickles they moved to columbus, ne before it happened tho [05:04]
[\\\] he only bailed on the last 50 years. [05:04]
Diablo-D3 I dont care if he disagrees, the historical record blatantly says this [05:04]
Chaang-Noi Luke i thought you were going to say boston or something [05:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.100001 = 0.5 BTC [-] [05:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-] [05:04]
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Diablo-D3 you cant disagree with fact [05:04]
Diablo-D3 reality doesnt work that way [05:05]
Luke-Jr just ignore Diablo-D3's trolling, I am [05:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.93 BTC [+] [05:05]
Diablo-D3 lol, am I trolling if I say popes led armies into the middle east to murder innocent people? [05:05]
[\\\] Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3 doesn't troll. [05:05]
Chaang-Noi .93, go asicminer! :) [05:05]
Luke-Jr [\\\]: rarely [05:05]
Luke-Jr Diablo-D3: yes [05:06]
Diablo-D3 So, I am trolling Luke-Jr with cold hard facts. [05:06]
Diablo-D3 Go me. [05:06]
Luke-Jr lies* [05:06]
Diablo-D3 So you're saying the holy crusades never happened? [05:07]
Luke-Jr no, I'm saying they were led by civil authorities and killed GUILTY people. that's why they're holy [05:07]
mircea_popescu the arabs were spamming the network. [05:08]
smickles lol [05:08]
Luke-Jr for the most part, the Crusades were a defensive retaliation [05:08]
smickles "defensive retaliation" [05:08]
smickles i like the sound of that [05:08]
Diablo-D3 yes, they were defensive against women and children who were guilty for the crime of being alive. yup. [05:08]
Chaang-Noi yes lead by civil but lol at killing guility people:) [05:08]
mircea_popescu smickles like say there's this hot chick in a short skirt and she's wearing no knickers right ? [05:08]
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mircea_popescu you get her against a wall and give her a good seeing-to [05:09]
mircea_popescu "defensive retaliation" [05:09]
smickles say no more ;) ;) [05:09]
Luke-Jr so someone breaks into your house and throws you out. then you go buy a gun and chase him back out. that's what the Crusades were (the 2nd part) [05:09]
mircea_popescu a wink is as good as a whistle to a blind bat. [05:09]
Diablo-D3 oh dont get me wrong, they raped the women and children too [05:09]
Chaang-Noi and goats [05:09]
Chaang-Noi dont forget goat rape [05:10]
Diablo-D3 Luke-Jr: except Jesus said to live side by side in peace. [05:10]
kakobrekla and donkeys [05:10]
mircea_popescu Luke-Jr say, if they were holy how come they lost ? the arabs kinda owned them holy ppl... [05:10]
smickles mircea_popescu: you crack me up [05:10]
Chaang-Noi they won the crusades in spain if that counts [05:10]
mircea_popescu ya except la reconquista was perhaps the bloodiest, messiest most agressive act of racism in european history [05:11]
mircea_popescu excluding of course all the french medieval history [05:11]
mircea_popescu and the german [05:11]
mircea_popescu and english [05:11]
mircea_popescu you get the idea. [05:11]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: thats a pretty hard thing to claim, really [05:11]
mircea_popescu o and caesar. [05:11]
smickles what about the popes who just wanted the power and held orgies, killed people for the fun of it and such? [05:11]
Diablo-D3 I mean, what about the whole slavery thing in america? [05:11]
mircea_popescu smickles not real catholics. [05:11]
Diablo-D3 thats pretty high up on the list [05:11]
Diablo-D3 I understand luke's point when he says not real catholics [05:11]
Diablo-D3 anyone who believes in God wouldn't have done that [05:12]
Diablo-D3 problem is… they still did it. [05:12]
Luke-Jr smickles: what about them? [05:12]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 also known as the not true catholic phallacy. [05:12]
Diablo-D3 and the catholic church is still to blame for it [05:12]
ThickAsThieves ;;getrating jesus [05:12]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yup [05:12]
mircea_popescu ok im authin for that one [05:12]
mircea_popescu ;;eauth mircea_popescu [05:12]
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smickles Luke-Jr: it's an entertaining read, isn't it? (the history of the popes) [05:12]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: this is why I just moot the entire issue and say everything after 200AD is built on lies and fraud [05:12]
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mircea_popescu ;;rate jesus -1 there's that entire mess in the temple to sort out. [05:13]
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Luke-Jr smickles: not particularly. [05:13]
mircea_popescu pfff [05:13]
smickles Luke-Jr: you don't like political thrillers, do you? [05:13]
Luke-Jr smickles: I'm betting you ignored what led up to the bad popes? [05:14]
mircea_popescu protestants ? [05:14]
ThickAsThieves Luke-Jr, what is the current BFL asic status, I haven't been keeping up? [05:14]
Luke-Jr here's a hint: bad laymen [05:14]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: most of them were pre-protestantism [05:14]
mircea_popescu what about the last 4 ? [05:14]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: St. Pius X - Pius XII? [05:15]
mircea_popescu no, this current argentinian guy, ratz, jp2 and [05:15]
mircea_popescu who was before, paul ? [05:15]
Luke-Jr those are frauds, not popes [05:15]
mircea_popescu ok. so what led to them ? [05:15]
Luke-Jr neglegent laity and clergy [05:16]
Luke-Jr Pope Pius XII allowed modernism to flourish, more or less [05:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00438 BTC [-] [05:16]
smickles "oh god what a horrible thing" comes to mind [05:16]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: the catholic church was not started by peter [05:16]
Luke-Jr the Catholic Church was started by Jesus [05:17]
mircea_popescu not like he had much of a choice. [05:17]
mod6 rate jesus -1 there's that entire mess in the temple to sort out. << HAHA [05:17]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: of course he did [05:17]
mod6 erp. missed his nick. :/ [05:17]
Luke-Jr even if the civil powers neglected their duties, Pope Pius XII could have proactively issued written excommunications against all modernists identified [05:18]
mircea_popescu lol ok. [05:18]
mircea_popescu and ? [05:18]
Luke-Jr instead of basically ignoring them taking over the seminaries and such [05:18]
pigeons Brian started the church [05:18]
Troic modernisms like euthanasia, gay marriage, abortions and female bishops ? [05:18]
pigeons always look on the bright side of life [05:18]
Luke-Jr Troic: no [05:18]
pigeons Troic: he means speaking english [05:19]
Chaang-Noi jesus did not start the catholic church, that was paul? wtf? [05:19]
mircea_popescu didn't pius xii get the reichskonkordat going ? [05:19]
Luke-Jr modernism is the heresy that truth/doctrine can change over time, basically [05:19]
Luke-Jr Chaang-Noi: it was Jesus [05:19]
Chaang-Noi lol [05:19]
pigeons saul was a plant [05:19]
Chaang-Noi read the bible and world history [05:19]
Chaang-Noi jesus had nothing like a church... [05:19]
Luke-Jr Chaang-Noi: He founded a Church and that was the only thing He left mankind with for guidance [05:20]
Chaang-Noi the roman sual/paul did it [05:20]
Chaang-Noi it started 30 to 40 eyars after he died [05:20]
Luke-Jr nope [05:20]
Chaang-Noi ? the catholic church was around before sual/paul was a christian? [05:21]
pigeons i dont think Luke-Jr is going to convert to litecoin Chaang-Noi [05:21]
* mod6 MUST. RESIST. THE. URGE. TO. TROLL. [05:21]
mircea_popescu lol [05:21]
Chaang-Noi Luke has 1337 ltc:) [05:21]
Luke-Jr after His resurrection, he appointed St. Peter to be the first pope; shortly after His ascension, He sent the Holy Ghost to consecrate His first bishops [05:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00071031 = 11.6846 BTC [+] [05:21]
mircea_popescu no but srsly. pius xii ? nazi germany ? anything there ? [05:21]
Luke-Jr Chaang-Noi: yes [05:21]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: what about it? the pope did much to save many jews from persecution [05:21]
Chaang-Noi i was just telling pigeons :) [05:21]
mircea_popescu but.he.signed.with.the.devil. [05:21]
Chaang-Noi that i already converted you:) [05:21]
smickles Luke-Jr: do you believe that jesus gave that one saint his foreskin as a wedding ring? [05:21]
pigeons smickles: wtf [05:22]
Chaang-Noi i dont have enough info [05:22]
Luke-Jr smickles: I have no idea what nonsense you are talking about [05:22]
smickles or that jesus left his foreskin on saturn as the rings [05:22]
mod6 anyway, there is no use debating this stuff. [05:22]
mod6 LOUD NOISES! [05:22]
pigeons jesus gave the saint jesus' foreskin or jesus gave the saint the saint's own foreskin? [05:22]
Luke-Jr mod6: more interesting than sitting around notihnging [05:22]
pigeons jesus was a jew, he saved and preserved his foreskin that long? [05:23]
Chaang-Noi if you guys want some lulz you shouldread about the mormans [05:23]
mircea_popescu boys, i am proud to announce i have the first ever intelligent pumpkin ready to show everyone [05:23]
Chaang-Noi some of thei rstuff is fucking insane, it is really a good read [05:23]
copumpkin :O [05:23]
mircea_popescu if things go about as planned should be early to mid next week [05:23]
Luke-Jr Chaang-Noi: mormonism is an extremely insane false religion [05:23]
Chaang-Noi hi copumpkin :) [05:23]
Luke-Jr copumpkin is intelligent? [05:23]
Chaang-Noi luke yeah, it is so insane it is fun reading their texts [05:23]
mircea_popescu he's a pineapple. [05:23]
copumpkin yep [05:23]
copumpkin I just pretend to be a pumpkin [05:23]
Luke-Jr Chaang-Noi: I try to avoid reading demon-dictated texts [05:24]
smickles Luke-Jr: saint catherine of sienna, i think [05:24]
mircea_popescu btw copumpkin have you heard ? [05:24]
copumpkin probably not [05:24]
Luke-Jr smickles: what about her? [05:24]
copumpkin never around anymore :P [05:24]
mircea_popescu your poisonous donation caused pdpc to be audited by the tax office [05:24]
mircea_popescu they got dissolved, everyone hauled off to jail [05:24]
copumpkin seriously? [05:24]
mircea_popescu all your fault. [05:24]
mircea_popescu yup [05:24]
copumpkin lol [05:24]
Chaang-Noi luke jr is bitcoin a sign of the end of the world? where everyone must you a truly world currancy? is the the begining of the end? [05:24]
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Luke-Jr Chaang-Noi: where do you get this nonsense from? [05:24]
Chaang-Noi luke demons can be very entertaining [05:24]
pigeons you can't buy or sell without the number of your private key [05:24]
Chaang-Noi revalations [05:24]
mircea_popescu copumpkin http://blog.freenode.net/2013/03/bye-bye-pdpc/ [05:25]
smickles Luke-Jr: she's the one who jesus married by giving her his foreskin (in her mouth) [05:25]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: just reading now! [05:25]
copumpkin crazy [05:25]
Luke-Jr you should get your head checked out if you're getting revelations [05:25]
Chaang-Noi however linking it to btc is a streach [05:25]
copumpkin now I feel bad [05:25]
mircea_popescu totally should. [05:25]
Luke-Jr smickles: shoo troll [05:25]
mod6 Chaang-Noi actaully has a point... and many people take the bible literally. [05:25]
smickles Luke-Jr: well, what's the real story of that then? [05:25]
mod6 they talk about some sort of one world currency and some trumpeting angels and stuff. [05:25]
Luke-Jr smickles: um, there is no story like that [05:25]
mod6 quite amusing. [05:25]
smickles they cut off her hand after her death to preserve it [05:25]
smickles it's a relic now [05:25]
mircea_popescu smickles does it still perform ? [05:26]
Chaang-Noi mod6 revalations is a damn good read to [05:26]
[\\\] dust-otc! [05:26]
pigeons ;;google holy prepuce [05:26]
gribble Holy Prepuce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Holy Foreskin of Jesus - YouTube: ; Holy Foreskin! A Brief History of Stolen Catholic Relics | Mental Floss: [05:26]
[\\\] who is pdpc? [05:26]
smickles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Siena [05:26]
mod6 [\\\]: the group that runs freenode [05:26]
mircea_popescu [\\\] porn studio, does bestiality and sutff. [05:26]
mircea_popescu you wouldn't know. [05:26]
[\\\] nope [05:26]
pigeons [\\\]: peer directed projects center, former org running freenode till they took mircea_popescu 's money and ran [05:26]
[\\\] haha [05:27]
[\\\] classic [05:27]
mircea_popescu they didn't run, they just inserted it [05:27]
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Luke-Jr smickles: what about it? [05:27]
[\\\] "You've reached freenode, a service of Peer-Directed Projects Center (PDPC). freenode provides discussion facilities for the Free and Open Source Software communities, for not-for-profit organizations and for related communities and organizations." [05:27]
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[\\\] they haven't updated their website [05:27]
[\\\] trolls [05:27]
mircea_popescu [\\\] volunteer time. they'll get around to it [05:27]
mircea_popescu about five weeks after someone in "bitcoin devteam" tests something. [05:27]
smickles Luke-Jr: you're saying that she didn't receive the forskin of jesus? [05:28]
[\\\] where can I see an article about all of this [05:28]
smickles it's part of why she's a saint? [05:28]
Luke-Jr smickles: I've never heard of anything of the sort [05:28]
mircea_popescu [\\\] in the above line to copumpkin [05:28]
kakobrekla i heard of the foreskin before [05:28]
pigeons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision_of_Jesus [05:28]
Luke-Jr smickles: apparently neither has wikipedia [05:28]
mircea_popescu smickles this is why he doesn't support modernism : so much new stuff just from not having read it before... [05:28]
kakobrekla wiki is almost as stupid as bible didnt ya know [05:28]
pigeons shit smickles i thought you were making up the rings of staturn bit [05:28]
smickles mircea_popescu: i've got a picture of it [05:29]
smickles http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Barna_da_Siena._Mystic_Marriage_of_st_Catherine._Boston_MFA.jpg [05:29]
mircea_popescu why is he carrying a book ? [05:29]
pigeons hahaha if thats not enough they have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Umbilical_Cord [05:29]
smickles Luke-Jr: apparently you can't read wikipedia all that well [05:29]
mircea_popescu you know it's so damned unlikely jesus ever touched a tome... too expensive. [05:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.47198999 BTC [-] [05:29]
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[\\\] mircea_popescu: they didn't have kindles? [05:30]
ThickAsThieves can we talk more about jesus? [05:30]
Luke-Jr smickles: I searched the page for 'foreskin' [05:30]
[\\\] ThickAsThieves: sure, he's still cutting my grass outside [05:31]
mircea_popescu [\\\] only the harlots and modernists had kindles back then [05:31]
Chaang-Noi okay new topic muhammad the true profit [05:31]
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mircea_popescu chaang-noe can sepl [05:31]
[\\\] shutup Goat, we're still on jesus [05:31]
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mod6 no one fucks with da jesus [05:31]
ThickAsThieves what would jesus think about bitcoin [05:31]
[\\\] so jesus, a goat, and a jew walk into a bar, right [05:31]
mod6 9 year olds dude [05:32]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [05:32]
ThickAsThieves jesus would probly be an altcoiner [05:32]
mod6 s/9/8/ [05:32]
Luke-Jr ThickAsThieves: nonsense [05:32]
nOgAnOo I like Jesus [05:32]
nOgAnOo I am a born again Christian [05:32]
mod6 wtf [05:32]
[\\\] what were you born the first time? [05:32]
mod6 what is going on in the world [05:32]
mircea_popescu i know a guy named jesus. he's an argentine [05:32]
nOgAnOo The second birth is into the family of God [05:32]
mircea_popescu [\\\] he was born a goat the first time. [05:32]
nOgAnOo Adam fell and became sinful [05:33]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 6 @ 0.1925 = 1.155 BTC [+] [05:33]
Luke-Jr mod6: we're racing to $100 [05:33]
nOgAnOo each creature can only reproduce according to type [05:33]
mod6 nOgAnOo: successful troll 7/10 [05:33]
nOgAnOo therefore because of Adam we are all sinful [05:33]
[\\\] Luke-Jr: don't buy any more please [05:33]
pigeons http://www.thestar.com/news/2007/12/15/searching_for_christianitys_most_sensitive_remnant.html [05:33]
ThickAsThieves the 2nd birth can really do a number on a girl [05:33]
Luke-Jr [\\\]: why not? :/ [05:33]
nOgAnOo You need to be reborn into the family of God to go to heaven [05:33]
[\\\] the last time you bought, we crashed to $2 [05:33]
nOgAnOo God's name is YAHWEH [05:33]
Luke-Jr [\\\]: oh, buy. why would I buy? [05:33]
nOgAnOo the Holy Trinity [05:33]
nOgAnOo God of Israel [05:33]
nOgAnOo That is my God [05:33]
[\\\] why did you buy at $25? [05:33]
[\\\] lol [05:33]
Chaang-Noi i hate to leave this wonderful conversation but i has gots to go to a tropical island so i can drink beer and not do much else, catch ya all later, happy trading [05:33]
Luke-Jr dunno [05:33]
parseval pgp2 pigeons pizzaman1337 PsychoticBoy Pucilowski [05:33]
nOgAnOo What are BTC at now? [05:33]
nOgAnOo I've been gone a week [05:33]
nOgAnOo at my cabin [05:34]
mircea_popescu [\\\] because he had 5 bucks and nothing to do with it [05:34]
Luke-Jr nOgAnOo: $66.6 [05:34]
nOgAnOo bogus [05:34]
[\\\] ;;ticker [05:34]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.49064, Best ask: 64.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00936, Last trade: 64.50000, 24 hour volume: 91855.74979099, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.57095 [05:34]
pigeons seriously the alleged foreskin of jesus was said to be stolen by a chinese relic hunter [05:34]
Luke-Jr almost [05:34]
nOgAnOo YOU ARE SHITTING ME [05:34]
nOgAnOo I KNEW IT [05:34]
nOgAnOo IT'S GOING TO 100 [05:34]
pigeons he came back for bitcoinica [05:34]
[\\\] /ignore nOgAnOo [05:34]
ThickAsThieves caps make your words more believable [05:34]
Luke-Jr O RLY? [05:34]
[\\\] I think I'm going to make a script that automatically ignores people that write more than 2 lines in caps in a row [05:35]
smickles NO RLY [05:35]
[\\\] NO U [05:35]
mod6 SRSLY! [05:35]
pigeons i thought the chinese relic hunter excuse was original to zhou, guess not [05:35]
assbot banner time [05:35]
nOgAnOo I'm out of here [05:35]
[\\\] speaking of [05:35]
[\\\] whatever happened to zhou tong and his art dealer boyfriend? [05:35]
Luke-Jr WE CAN HAZ A DUOLOGUE IN CAPS AND BYPASS IMSAGUY'S SCRIPT KIDDINESS [05:35]
smickles Stop, .. banner time! oh, oh, oh, oh [05:35]
mod6 haha [05:36]
ThickAsThieves this channel was so much better before bitcoin forked [05:36]
[\\\] omg, I f0rked the chain!!!11one [05:36]
Luke-Jr no, that was slush [05:36]
Luke-Jr BOYCOTT SLUSH [05:36]
Namworld This channel was better before nefario went full retard. Never go full retard. Before than, there was more interest in BTC assets. [05:36]
[\\\] lol [05:36]
[\\\] seriously [05:36]
pigeons this became of zhou https://www.nameterrific.com/about [05:36]
mircea_popescu Namworld not rly. [05:36]
Luke-Jr Namworld: ironically, the FinCEN thing suggests GLBSE was 100% legal in the US [05:37]
mircea_popescu there were more poor people deluding themselves with btc assets. [05:37]
[\\\] pigeons: he was working on that during bitcoinica [05:37]
smickles < Luke-Jr> Namworld: ironically, the FinCEN thing suggests GLBSE was 100% legal in the US [05:37]
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[\\\] lol [05:37]
smickles missed the part about unregulated securities Luke-Jr ? [05:37]
[\\\] haha [05:37]
Luke-Jr smickles: maybe! [05:37]
[\\\] FinCEN != SEC [05:37]
Luke-Jr [\\\]: iow, FinCEN is okay with it, but SEC would get him? [05:38]
pigeons oh shit better get my MSB license so i can still sell on silk road [05:38]
Namworld Well, fair enough mircea. I know MPEx has been doing well and is the major volume. But at least there was more regular chatting about BTC businesses and less unrelated talk. [05:38]
[\\\] lol pigeons [05:38]
mod6 funnay [05:38]
Namworld I'm not really talking about volume, just quality of talk in this channel. [05:38]
[\\\] Luke-Jr: SEC cares about securities, FinCEN is worried about money laundering [05:38]
Luke-Jr [\\\]: so yes? [05:38]
[\\\] Namworld, ninja please [05:39]
[\\\] aye [05:39]
mircea_popescu Namworld i kinda don't recall. [05:39]
[\\\] mircea_popescu: because you were stoned at the time [05:39]
[\\\] that was before you had to give away mpex accounts [05:39]
mircea_popescu i seriously haven't been stoned in like 10 years [05:39]
[\\\] thats about the same timeline [05:39]
mircea_popescu naw, glbse only died in like oct neh ? [05:39]
[\\\] in bitcoin years [05:39]
mircea_popescu you're not telling me this is pre-april ? [05:39]
Namworld mircea: yeah [05:39]
mircea_popescu pre april ?! are you kidding me ?! [05:39]
smickles I can type on the keyboard too [05:39]
[\\\] I remember back when glbse didn't require ID [05:40]
mircea_popescu what exactly was it, peter lambert advising re sensodyne ?! [05:40]
[\\\] smickles: Dragon? [05:40]
Luke-Jr GLBSE never required ID… [05:40]
[\\\] Luke-Jr: lies. [05:40]
pigeons use to not need a web page for glbse [05:40]
mircea_popescu i should reject all gpg sigs that don't include idpic [05:40]
mircea_popescu actually... that don't include NUDE id pic. [05:40]
[\\\] mircea_popescu: idpic with b00bies* [05:40]
smickles mircea_popescu: yeah, i made mpoe.etf on the old version of glbse [05:40]
[\\\] exactly [05:40]
mircea_popescu too late troll :D [05:41]
[\\\] lol [05:41]
pigeons ok let me get usagi to send you his key [05:41]
[\\\] haha [05:41]
mircea_popescu pigeons i think you're on the list of paid trolls nao. [05:41]
[\\\] I thought usagi was female, no? [05:41]
[\\\] mircea_popescu: me too! [05:41]
mircea_popescu with eximo bob and who else [05:41]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu wants a pic of me nude? [05:41]
pigeons s/he [05:41]
mircea_popescu [\\\] female yes, but not the boobs sort. [05:41]
pigeons who is paying me? [05:41]
[\\\] pigeons: penis, tits? [05:41]
Diablo-D3 hrm. [05:41]
smickles [\\\]: usagi: http://www.youtube.com/user/MagicalPockyUsagi [05:41]
[\\\] mircea_popescu: I meant paid troll [05:41]
* Diablo-D3 is up 9.4% in his gambling against SD [05:42]
[\\\] DMC making money the old fashioned way... at the casino. [05:42]
* Luke-Jr hopes Diablo-D3 goes broke [05:42]
Luke-Jr [\\\]: lol [05:42]
mircea_popescu ahaha wait, if he goes broke sdice gets rich [05:42]
mircea_popescu the whole 2 btc! [05:42]
pigeons yeah whats the deal Diablo-D3, donating to shareholders of s.dice? [05:42]
Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: hmm, true [05:42]
mod6 \o/ [05:42]
Diablo-D3 pigeons: not at all, they are donating ot me. [05:42]
pigeons you've got a system [05:43]
Luke-Jr Diablo-D3: want a hack to always win SD? [05:43]
[\\\] are there bets on when satoshidice fails? [05:43]
pigeons wow, never heard that [05:43]
[\\\] that'd be the ultimate bet [05:43]
mircea_popescu [\\\] possibly. if not you can make one [05:43]
[\\\] betting on when the house will shut down [05:43]
mircea_popescu i know there was one on s.mpoe but it's not going so well [05:43]
Diablo-D3 Luke-Jr: besides, I would think you would want me to do God's work. [05:43]
pigeons there is a bet on betsofbitco on when evorhees goes to jail and one for guantanamo [05:43]
[\\\] mircea_popescu: may I make a bet that will bet on when bitbet gets shut down? [05:43]
mircea_popescu sure [05:43]
Diablo-D3 Luke-Jr: We both worship the same God, and Jesus is our Lord and Savior. [05:43]
[\\\] Diablo-D3: lies. [05:43]
Luke-Jr Diablo-D3: no [05:43]
mircea_popescu will be weird tho cause if you win who pays ? [05:43]
Diablo-D3 Luke-Jr is a heathen =/ [05:44]
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[\\\] mircea_popescu: you can be shutdown without being dissolved. [05:44]
pigeons nevar! [05:44]
mircea_popescu how'd that work ? [05:44]
Luke-Jr Diablo-D3: no u [05:44]
pigeons as soon as the bet is high enough [\\\] pays the gov agent bribe [05:45]
Diablo-D3 Luke-Jr: do you pray unceasingly? [05:45]
pigeons Luke-Jr is a heathen [05:45]
mircea_popescu pigeons yes and ? [05:45]
Luke-Jr http://bitcointroll.org/index.php?topic=141502.0 [05:46]
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[\\\] so is that youtube really usagi? [05:46]
jcpham where [05:47]
[\\\] as in the bitcoin usagi? [05:47]
[\\\] http://www.youtube.com/user/MagicalPockyUsagi [05:47]
[\\\] I'll warn you [05:47]
[\\\] you can't unsee it [05:47]
pigeons ok dont need to look then [05:47]
jcpham wait bitcointroll.org resolves!?! [05:47]
pigeons but i know ill get tempted later [05:47]
jcpham hahahahahha [05:47]
Luke-Jr pigeons: you should join us up here in KC [05:47]
mod6 that can't be usagi, because there are no girls on the tubes [05:48]
mircea_popescu jcpham always did [05:48]
Luke-Jr (I'm not the only Floridian here - and the others have been here longer) [05:48]
pigeons yeah sounds like yall are having fu [05:48]
pigeons n [05:48]
Luke-Jr NO F U [05:48]
jcpham it's a chick [05:48]
Namworld I see vampire music in the videos list... [05:49]
jcpham who do itip for bitcointroll.org [05:49]
Luke-Jr jcpham: there's dramatalk.org too [05:49]
jcpham ! [05:49]
Luke-Jr jcpham: wizkid057 setup bitcointroll.org [05:49]
Diablo-D3 Luke-Jr: Do you not wish to feed the hungry or heal the sick or other things good Christians would do for those in need? [05:49]
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Namworld Sounds like usagi alright [05:49]
jcpham that's geat [05:49]
jcpham *great [05:49]
smickles < [\\\]> so is that youtube really usagi? << usagi personally told me that was tehm [05:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00071031 = 2.1309 BTC [+] [05:50]
Luke-Jr we should just drop Florida on top of KC until BFL ships [05:50]
[\\\] we should just drop Florida on top of KC [05:51]
Namworld them? [05:51]
[\\\] Namworld: male/female [05:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 31 @ 0.9 = 27.9 BTC [-] [05:51]
pigeons what's the deal Luke-Jr they just rushed and had bad luck? [05:51]
ThickAsThieves are they shipping this month or what? [05:51]
pigeons ok clicking usagi luke's god help me [05:51]
Namworld multiple personality disorder? [05:51]
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Diablo-D3 I notice Luke-Jr didnt answer the question [05:52]
ThickAsThieves we ask the HARD questions in nyeeuh [05:52]
* Diablo-D3 prays for Luke [05:52]
[\\\] ok, let's discuss the following statement: [05:52]
[\\\] "new hardware for the test rig and that should get us what we need by early to mid next week." [05:52]
Luke-Jr [\\\]: no [05:52]
[\\\] first up [05:52]
[\\\] 'should' [05:52]
[\\\] next up [05:52]
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[\\\] 'early to mid next week' [05:52]
jcpham what happens next week [05:52]
[\\\] so a whole bunch of nonspecific crap [05:53]
Luke-Jr jcpham: BFL comes up with their next excuse [05:53]
[\\\] jcpham: bfl can test their shit [05:53]
[\\\] or something [05:53]
pigeons ok since its flash i dont get to see usagi [05:53]
[\\\] you would have thought they would have tested their tester sometime in the past 4 months [05:53]
[\\\] why wait until the day you're trying to do stuff for real? [05:53]
pigeons so is josh actually pleasant in "real life" as alleged? [05:54]
ThickAsThieves Next week, we'll tell you what's gonna happen next week. Stay tuned! [05:54]
[\\\] ;;google herp derp [05:54]
gribble Urban Dictionary: herp derp: ; Harp Darp / Herp Derp | Know Your Meme: ; DERP | Know Your Meme: [05:54]
Luke-Jr pigeons: as long as he's not driving [05:54]
jcpham oh wait is this a butterfly labs story [05:54]
[\\\] holy shit, there's bfl's address [05:54]
jcpham let me get my popcorn [05:54]
jcpham they've got to be close to shipping right [05:54]
[\\\] ThickAsThieves: sometime next week, I should be able to maybe tell you something you probably don't want to hear [05:54]
jcpham like not many excuses left [05:54]
[\\\] jcpham: you'd think [05:55]
[\\\] next is the hurrican [05:55]
[\\\] e [05:55]
pigeons shit it can't be cheap to put luke up in the kc hilton for a week and pay him irc [05:55]
ThickAsThieves I look forward to looking forward to that, \\\ [05:55]
[\\\] and then the alligators that broke in and stole their power cords [05:55]
jcpham i mean unless they run out of bubble wrap and cardboard [05:55]
jcpham cardboard shortages could ruuin bitcoin [05:55]
[\\\] jody quit [05:55]
[\\\] it'll be a few weeks [05:55]
[\\\] we gotta hire a replacement [05:55]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8jJxKTFXPc [05:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 430 @ 0.00559698 = 2.4067 BTC [-] [05:55]
[\\\] oh crap, jody didn't pay the water bill [05:55]
[\\\] two more weeks [05:55]
jcpham just open up preorders [05:56]
[\\\] someone clogged the toilet, see you next month [05:56]
Luke-Jr lol [05:56]
jcpham water bill. paid [05:56]
[\\\] uh oh, the floor's a little dusty [05:56]
[\\\] we better get it inspected [05:56]
[\\\] they can't make it until June [05:56]
mircea_popescu probably someone premined with the floor [05:56]
jcpham UL stickers [05:56]
jcpham don't forget UL stickers [05:56]
[\\\] FCC certification [05:56]
pigeons i'm seriously waiting for avalon asics to be common and then bfl buy them and slap butterfly stickers on them and ship [05:57]
ThickAsThieves bflcoin [05:57]
[\\\] oh god, we ran out of made in america sickers [05:57]
[\\\] stickers* [05:57]
jcpham should probably just email their support this caht [05:57]
jcpham to let them know we're wise [05:57]
[\\\] jcpham: just trying to help him out [05:57]
[\\\] why lie when you can have others do it for you? [05:57]
mircea_popescu pigeons they won't be common tho. [05:57]
jcpham they should pay us [05:57]
[\\\] pigeons: did you see the avalon that just sold on ebay for $20k? [05:57]
[\\\] they won't be common [05:57]
Luke-Jr [\\\]: they have a simple shell script they run when people demand an excsue [05:57]
pigeons no shit, people are nuts [05:58]
jcpham i did see that auction [05:58]
jcpham cray cray [05:58]
[\\\] Luke-Jr: you realize that you have to go in there tomorrow? [05:58]
Luke-Jr lol [05:58]
[\\\] and I'm going to send them a gpgsigned copy of this log [05:58]
Luke-Jr better not ;) [05:58]
jcpham Luke-Jr goes to BFL tomorrow? [05:58]
pigeons gpg signed by freenode or what [05:58]
[\\\] jcpham: he's there now [05:58]
Luke-Jr I could always go downtown instead.. [05:58]
[\\\] pigeons: no, by conman [05:58]
jcpham oh that should be neat [05:58]
[\\\] I know he'd send it [05:58]
pigeons i'll gpg sign a copy of some shit i make up [05:58]
jcpham video luke-jr [05:58]
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jcpham i'll drop ship a camera [05:59]
[\\\] ;;google Luke-Jr [05:59]
pigeons who's conman? trendon? [05:59]
gribble luke-jr (Luke-Jr) · GitHub: ; User:Luke-Jr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Frank Luke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [05:59]
Luke-Jr jcpham: why? there's nothing to see [05:59]
[\\\] pigeons: I'm rendon [05:59]
jcpham PROOF [05:59]
Luke-Jr pigeons: a con man [05:59]
Luke-Jr jcpham: proof there's nothing there? [05:59]
pigeons oh sonny [05:59]
Luke-Jr nah, Sonnys cool [05:59]
jcpham be the guy luke-jr that does the thing [05:59]
ThickAsThieves be our bitcoin jesus [05:59]
pigeons crucify ver [05:59]
Luke-Jr Sonny didn't want me to take his pic by the BFL sign :P [06:00]
ThickAsThieves turn water into bitcoins [06:00]
jcpham smuggle out the contraband [06:00]
jcpham the pics/ the video [06:00]
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jcpham call geraldo [06:00]
Luke-Jr jcpham: got that in my laptop case [06:00]
Luke-Jr they called it a coaster [06:00]
jcpham heh [06:00]
Luke-Jr precursor to the coffee warmer [06:01]
Luke-Jr only $100 tho [06:01]
jcpham sell it to me for 500 [06:01]
Luke-Jr (and doesn't mine) [06:01]
jcpham nm [06:01]
jcpham sothe vortex math crap leads to these crazy coils [06:01]
jcpham i got stuck on youtube for hours [06:02]
Luke-Jr dennou coils? [06:02]
ThickAsThieves luke do you own any asicminer shares? [06:02]
Luke-Jr ThickAsThieves: whatever the DMC shares count as [06:02]
ThickAsThieves 11:1 i think [06:02]
jcpham rodin coil [06:02]
Luke-Jr plus some more from GLBSE [06:02]
jcpham starship coil [06:02]
Luke-Jr but not really keeping track of GLBSE crap [06:03]
pigeons coiledcoin [06:03]
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jcpham http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKEnXcCKD-U [06:03]
jcpham torroids and the universe [06:03]
jcpham it got real trippy i had to turn it off [06:03]
Diablo-D3 hey, is any of SD's bitcoinds public? [06:03]
ThickAsThieves did you order any asics? [06:03]
jcpham some crazy brazilian dude is spouting crazy decimal nuclear math [06:04]
jcpham that leads to complex torroids [06:04]
jcpham and motors [06:04]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155533.msg1650422#msg1650422 [06:04]
mircea_popescu so bitinstant clunked out or what [06:04]
jcpham HN linked to a TED talk today from 2010 [06:05]
jcpham http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgMlfz-flz8 [06:05]
jcpham i've been stuck on it all day [06:05]
Diablo-D3 jcpham: TED is pretty neat isnt it [06:05]
jcpham bitcoin is boring now [06:05]
Diablo-D3 I really should subscribe to TED [06:05]
Diablo-D3 like, as an RSS feed [06:05]
jcpham well they called it bullshit [06:05]
jcpham these motors and coils are not [06:06]
jcpham though [06:06]
Diablo-D3 TED is neither true or not true [06:06]
Diablo-D3 its meant to make you think again [06:06]
jcpham i've enjoyed a good many of the talks [06:06]
Diablo-D3 now, presumably, it really is all true [06:06]
Diablo-D3 even the highly theoretical stuff might be commercial in the next 20-30 years [06:06]
jcpham fractal antennae on cell phones a re a great example [06:07]
kakobrekla ohh now i can finally asseble my timeflux capacitor [06:07]
mod6 hover boards [06:07]
jcpham engineers were not thinking fractals in the 40's [06:07]
pigeons how do you tell youtube to give you html5 [06:07]
jcpham they should've been [06:07]
pigeons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGMY63FF3Q&list=SP4NL9i-Fu15hhYGB-d0hmSWD1fcIvLvn1&index=2 [06:07]
Diablo-D3 jcpham: yeah, but when do they start thinking with porals? [06:07]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120757.msg1300437#msg1300437 [06:07]
Diablo-D3 pigeons: youtube.com/html5 [06:07]
jcpham idk Diablo-D3 [06:07]
Diablo-D3 pigeons: not all videos are in an acceptable format yet but most are [06:07]
mircea_popescu obviously bitbet absent. amusingly, i imagine it's paid a good chunk of total referals ever paid in btc [06:07]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu last post? [06:08]
mircea_popescu ya i know [06:08]
pigeons these tedtalks are better than the real oness [06:08]
Diablo-D3 [12:03:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKEnXcCKD-U [06:08]
Diablo-D3 OH THAT GUY [06:08]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu well its burried on the bottom of the faq [06:08]
Diablo-D3 jcpham: Im thinking it has a large amount of bullshit or it depends on a function of quantum physics _no one_ understands [06:08]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu one must really look for it [06:09]
mircea_popescu it's been advertised multiple places on the forum tho [06:09]
kakobrekla ya forums is sheep [06:09]
Diablo-D3 jcpham: theres been a lot of people who've tried that [06:09]
Diablo-D3 jcpham: all they end up doing is inventing hyperefficient motors, generators, and other shit like that [06:09]
Diablo-D3 (and voltage converters) [06:09]
jcpham seems like it [06:09]
pigeons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK62I-4cuSY&feature=share&list=SP4NL9i-Fu15hhYGB-d0hmSWD1fcIvLvn1 [06:10]
Diablo-D3 they get like 99+% efficiency and think its overunity [06:10]
jcpham i'm really trying to understand the jump from the bullshit charts [06:10]
jcpham to the torroids and the motor windings [06:10]
jcpham because the two are related [06:10]
Diablo-D3 I wish all motors, dc converters, and generators were that efficient [06:10]
jcpham and the explanation makes no sense to me [06:10]
Diablo-D3 like, sure, it adds weight and size [06:10]
jcpham they keep going back to that freaking chart [06:10]
Diablo-D3 but imagine if Tesla had access to a 99+% efficient motor [06:11]
Diablo-D3 it'd double their runtime in their cars [06:11]
pigeons im setting up a passthrough http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cps/3691470276.html [06:11]
jcpham this seems very much tied to tesla voodoo [06:11]
Diablo-D3 no, I mean Tesla Motors [06:11]
Diablo-D3 not Tesla, Son of God [06:11]
jcpham i understood [06:11]
jcpham but you understood [06:11]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla fact is ref only works if you have traffic [06:11]
jcpham i want one of those cars [06:11]
mircea_popescu and while some on the forum may stil lhave a little btc left, traffic is a diff matter. [06:11]
Diablo-D3 Tesla, Son of God, Lord of the Cosmos, Savior of Science, etc etc probably built those in his sleep [06:11]
jcpham theymos is here [06:12]
jcpham or in 0otc [06:12]
Diablo-D3 so I wonder how much money SD actually makes every day [06:12]
mircea_popescu "For those of you that are aware of the digital currency Bitcoin: There has been discovered an exploit that utilizes a series of computers on an "isolated from the internet" back-network that participates in intercepting the data stream where the bitcoins are circulated/stored. The backnet of PC's run a series of algorithms that have the net effect of doubling the bitcoin amount sent to certain addresses. This happens [06:12]
mircea_popescu for BOTH receiver and sender to certain bitcoin rcv address programmed into the algorithm." [06:12]
mircea_popescu sounds legit. [06:12]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: LOL [06:12]
pigeons not a passthrough i mean a fan club [06:13]
mircea_popescu This is working as of March 19th 2013 and if you wish to double you can simply send any whole amount to bitcoin address: [06:13]
Diablo-D3 "hi, I cracked sha256, but Im only using it on bitcoin" [06:13]
mircea_popescu the whole amoun guy again [06:13]
Diablo-D3 so [06:13]
Diablo-D3 where is this place where bitcoins are circlulated/stored? [06:13]
Diablo-D3 can I go there? [06:13]
pigeons yes the backnet [06:13]
Diablo-D3 I bet its full of robot arms moving piles of bitcoins around [06:13]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 they bounce of off tits [06:14]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: I MUST FIND THIS PLACE [06:14]
mircea_popescu so you must. [06:14]
* Diablo-D3 puts on his hat and gets his walking stick [06:14]
mircea_popescu it's behing the candy rock mountains. [06:14]
Diablo-D3 come on, Gandalf, we're going to mount gox! [06:14]
mircea_popescu The punk rolled up his big blue eyes [06:15]
mircea_popescu And said to the jocker, "Sandy, [06:15]
mircea_popescu I've hiked and hiked and wandered too, [06:15]
mircea_popescu But I ain't seen any candy. [06:15]
mircea_popescu I've hiked and hiked till my feet are sore [06:15]
mircea_popescu And I'll be damned if I hike any more [06:15]
mircea_popescu To be buggered sore like a hobo's whore [06:15]
mircea_popescu In the Big Rock Candy Mountains." [06:15]
* Diablo-D3 skips a few chapters [06:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9871 @ 0.00071031 = 7.0115 BTC [+] [06:21]
jcpham http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmN1txjVBe0&feature=share&list=UUsFys1ILf8D2g5qLV-uCP8A [06:22]
jcpham whats this japanese obsession [06:23]
jcpham [\\\] thanks you've turned my world upside down [06:24]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155546.0 [06:25]
mircea_popescu bitme is gone if anyone was using them [06:25]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [06:27]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.50101, Best ask: 65.89890, Bid-ask spread: 0.39789, Last trade: 65.50101, 24 hour volume: 91900.48970900, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.67167 [06:27]
pigeons yeah i used them saw the writing on the wall a few weeks ago when their one usd withdraw method, aurumxchange vouchx wouldnt work because they didnt have any reserves with aurum anymore [06:28]
toffoo they have ACH withdrawal too [06:29]
pigeons yeah thats for people who use banks [06:29]
kakobrekla moar milk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155098.msg1650919#msg1650919 [06:30]
jcpham mommy...what's a bank? [06:31]
pigeons wow thats just insane [06:32]
pigeons i used to think usagi was just stupid, but this sounds evil [06:32]
mircea_popescu pigeons that issue has been hotly debated since last year [06:32]
pigeons "No one knows where the price is going next week or next month but if you have vision, you can predict what is going to happen next. " [06:33]
pigeons "You strike me as someone who has the sight. So. Buy a little today, buy a little tomorrow. [06:33]
jcpham if usagi from the forum is the person from the youtube video i was watching [06:36]
jcpham i can't listen anything that person says [06:37]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [06:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.80000, Best ask: 65.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 65.80000, 24 hour volume: 91806.08215649, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.68307 [06:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1812 @ 0.0007241 = 1.3121 BTC [+] [06:44]
mircea_popescu getting here [06:44]
mircea_popescu ;;rate midnightmagic 1 Means well, tries hard but mostly fails. Also http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-we-aspersor/ [06:46]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user midnightmagic has been recorded. [06:46]
pigeons that's not going to get you your coffee in canada invitation re extended [06:53]
mircea_popescu lol [06:59]
mircea_popescu he started it [06:59]
midnightmagic Did I now. [07:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.9 = 17.1 BTC [+] [07:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.9 = 16.2 BTC [+] [07:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.9 = 5.4 BTC [+] [07:00]
midnightmagic Did you quote me again in a paid article this time? [07:00]
mircea_popescu they're all free if you don't overindulge [07:00]
midnightmagic What's the refresh rate again? A week? [07:02]
mircea_popescu yeh [07:02]
mircea_popescu you get 5 free a week, iirc, so you can take solace in the fact that the articles quoting you are free. it's the others that go ten to the penny. [07:02]
midnightmagic Oh did you ask me questions that I never answered? [07:05]
mircea_popescu yeah scroll up ? [07:05]
mircea_popescu or grep i guess [07:05]
mircea_popescu but irrespective, how's the ngzhang integrometer these days ? [07:06]
kakobrekla in level with zouthong [07:06]
midnightmagic Quoting more out of context again. [07:08]
mircea_popescu oh jolly. [07:08]
mircea_popescu you're gonna end up running for political office i suspect. [07:08]
midnightmagic Indeed. ngzhang's Icarus designs were available to anyone, including open-sourced fpga bitstream, pcb layouts, BOM, and supporting software. [07:08]
mircea_popescu this isn't a point of contention. [07:09]
midnightmagic He refused to allow mass-purchase of his designs, and when he took preorders for Avalon, he refused to allow single parties to buy up the entire stock. [07:09]
mircea_popescu because his devilish little plan was to get a bunch of people to vouch for him. [07:10]
midnightmagic He reversed designs of BFL and gave the information to the public. This is the evidence on which I based my opinion that he was the most ethical hardware manufacturer. [07:10]
kakobrekla yeah, was. [07:10]
mircea_popescu well, so what's your opinion now ? [07:10]
midnightmagic So what's your objection again? [07:10]
midnightmagic I don't really care that he's upped the price. With a machine that pays for itself in less than 5 days (with luck) why would he not? [07:11]
midnightmagic Or is it that when someone else makes money, you have a problem with that? [07:12]
mircea_popescu so you still view him as "one of the most ethical businesspeople I’ve seen in a long time" ? [07:12]
pigeons wait what did he do unethical? The thing I'm aware of is lying about having shipped when they hadn't [07:12]
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dub hes basically bfling [07:13]
mircea_popescu well pigeons, something like this basically : "Avalon took interest-free fiat-denominated loans from silly white westerner peoples, built their rigs, used them to mine a little (as people were reporting dust inside their units upon delivery) and eventually decided to not deliver at all anymore, just keep the miners and mine for themselves." [07:13]
midnightmagic pigeons: Do you mean the fact that they're still not done the B1 shipments? [07:13]
dub giving dates when he knows they wont be met [07:13]
mircea_popescu that's to my eyes major unethical stuff. [07:13]
mircea_popescu granted, i don't go by the very superficial approach most people seem to use. [07:13]
pigeons mircea_popescu: omg dust inside. where are you getting they mined with them. doesnt seem they did [07:13]
mircea_popescu i guess he's never said cunt so he must be very ethical (or just not sufficiently familiar with english) [07:13]
pigeons midnightmagic: i mean when avalon said that batch 1 had shipped please pay for batch 2 and 2 weeks later they said ok now we're shipping batch 1 i guess they werent caught at customs like we said [07:14]
mircea_popescu heh. [07:15]
pigeons seriously, someone reported dust means they mined when the evidence seems to show they didnt [07:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17888 @ 0.00071661 = 12.8187 BTC [-] [07:16]
pigeons gonna have to have more than that [07:16]
mircea_popescu what'd it take ? [07:16]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: If that is, indeed, what he's done, that sucks. I don't see any evidence for them mining their own hardware (difficulty spiked only on delivery as per users self-reporting,) but then you tend to jump to conclusions a lot (as per your assertion that gmaxwell wanted to steal rich peoples' money, because you didn't grok multisig, for example,) so why let the lack of facts get in the way this time? [07:17]
mircea_popescu the appearing/dissapearing mystery miner people kept thinking was asicminer ? [07:17]
pigeons your really misinformed on this one mircea_popescu [07:17]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic you're misrepresenting the issue by clinging to this sidepoint. [07:17]
mircea_popescu how did avalon get their money to start this business ? [07:18]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: I'm misrepresenting that you often draw conclusions from insufficient evidence? [07:18]
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pigeons they went to the forum said give us money and we'll build some asics then they built them [07:18]
mircea_popescu right. [07:18]
mircea_popescu and once they were built they jacked the price 5x [07:18]
mircea_popescu this is the crux of the issue. community gave you teh equity, [07:18]
pigeons so? [07:18]
mircea_popescu you've built yourself a corp worth money [07:18]
mircea_popescu and now you're fucking them over. [07:19]
mircea_popescu it's not nice. that is all. [07:19]
midnightmagic After 900 units, a giant and sudden price spike, and the fact they honour trade-ins from previous customers? How shockingly unethical [07:19]
pigeons how can mircea_popescu say people should be nice and not raise prices [07:19]
pigeons this is a troll [07:19]
mircea_popescu hm. [07:19]
mircea_popescu i'm seriously the only one of us three seeing an issue here ? [07:19]
pigeons yes [07:19]
mircea_popescu world fulla surprises. [07:19]
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midnightmagic mircea_popescu: Someone's making money, money is king, except when you don't directly benefit. Then you suddenly grow a conscience? [07:20]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: If they are doing what you're saying, then that is utter bullshit. Total crap, because it's competing with their own customers. [07:20]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic you know, you shouldn't let your preconceived notions blind you so. [07:20]
mircea_popescu the only equitable way here is for avalon to recognise everyone that paid them for rigs for their equity contribution, and distribute revenue from now on. [07:22]
mircea_popescu this "you've financed our corp so here's a complimentary biscuit" doesn't really cut it. [07:22]
pigeons they said give us X we give you a prduct [07:23]
pigeons and the people who got them are happy [07:23]
mircea_popescu pigeons neither those are material objections. [07:23]
pigeons wow your in space [07:23]
mircea_popescu they claimed they're selling an item, but the item didn't at the time exist. the people "pre ordering" simply made equity contributions. [07:24]
mircea_popescu you don't have to agree for this to be the case. [07:24]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: Actually, it's more ethical to ensure widespread device installation. [07:24]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic ethical != what'd be most desirable you know ? [07:24]
mircea_popescu sure, for bitcoin widespread mining is the best outcome. [07:24]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: Ethical is what's we're talking about here isn't it? [07:24]
mircea_popescu but ethical is a deductive process. [07:24]
mircea_popescu so let's try and follow this logic see where the problems lie. [07:25]
pigeons mircea_popescu: are you seriously basing your allegegations of self mining on reports of dust? [07:25]
mircea_popescu pigeons yes, but i consider that a sidepoint of little importance [07:25]
pigeons that is usagi level insane [07:25]
mircea_popescu why ? [07:25]
pigeons no wonder you thought enough alike to have his assets in your cdos [07:26]
mircea_popescu lol [07:26]
mircea_popescu woe upon me for trying to give bitcoi nnoobs chances etc. [07:26]
pigeons there is plenty of evidence that each unit shipped and reported delivered corresponded with the estimated hashrate, and on the other hand you calim someone had dust [07:26]
pigeons everything has dust [07:26]
mircea_popescu no piece of hardware i ever bought as new came with dust in it. [07:27]
pigeons wow [07:27]
mircea_popescu "everything" may be irrelevant in this discussiong. [07:27]
pigeons everything [07:27]
mircea_popescu are you taking some sort of microscopic dust approach ? [07:27]
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pigeons no, go to the factory, take something off the line put it in a box for 2.5 days, then run your finger over it [07:28]
midnightmagic I posit an alternate explanation: they purchased or had available the case metal prior to assembly, sitting in a supply bay somewhere. [07:28]
pigeons why did their pre-mining yeild them no coins or increased hashrate [07:28]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic well... that may be. [07:29]
midnightmagic Which one is more likely based on hashrate increases post-asicminer claimed hashrate? [07:29]
mircea_popescu pigeons again, the mystery miner people thought was asicminer. [07:29]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic there was a one thing doingmore than asic at some point. [07:29]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: Which mystery miner is this you're talking about, anyway? [07:29]
mircea_popescu the one friedcat had to say "it's not us" [07:29]
pigeons why are they such logistical geniouses that they had their units way ahead of sheculed when it bankrupted everyone else so far ahead of schedule they could pre mine except the hashrate and genratded coins dont show it [07:29]
pigeons no wonder people dont tell you who they are every time they turn up some units mircea [07:30]
mircea_popescu anyway, this entire pre miningargument is a waste of time. i said "a little", you so far are making a case it's not a lot, maybe it;'s not a lot. [07:30]
mircea_popescu proving its not at all will be too hard to be worth it, so can we just leave it aside ? [07:30]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: Primarily, you have said that the b3 update shows they are unethical. So far you have said "they took preorder money" and "they mined prior to sale" as your claims for this to be so. Anything else? [07:31]
midnightmagic A + B -> C [07:31]
midnightmagic A', therefore B -> C? [07:31]
mircea_popescu yeah, if we can get to it, i'd like to explain this pre order money thing, cause it's what's important here. [07:31]
mircea_popescu so : [07:31]
midnightmagic Okay go ahead. Also, you don't have my permission to quote anything I've said today. [07:32]
mircea_popescu any capital exchange will be for consideration. the nature of this consideration is not the empire of the parties, but a matter of fact. [07:32]
kakobrekla !rules midnightmagic [07:32]
mircea_popescu so for instance if you pay a girl five dollars to feel her underwear and she sucks your cock while you do it [07:32]
mircea_popescu this was prostitution, not textile appreciation. [07:32]
mircea_popescu this was point 1. [07:32]
pigeons that's supposed to mean they werent supposed to take money to develop asics then deliver the asics? [07:33]
midnightmagic kakobrekla: Actually, channel rules don't supercede explicitly-defined moral rights under the copyright acts of both Canada and Romania. [07:33]
mircea_popescu point 2 : any purchase may only be entertained by a seller of an existant item. nobody can sell what they don't own. [07:33]
kakobrekla midnightmagic you should read that before you join or /part [07:34]
mircea_popescu becaue of this, any purported sale of inexistant mining equipment is to be quashed as such. [07:34]
kakobrekla as you join [07:34]
pigeons !rules [07:34]
kakobrekla not before [07:34]
pigeons you are off the deep end mircea_popescu [07:34]
kakobrekla well or before if you see the web page first. [07:34]
midnightmagic kakobrekla: I am aware that this channel was made a publically-logged channel (but not in the topic) as a top-down directive because you are in the #bitcoin-* namespace. [07:34]
mircea_popescu point 3 : any capital transfer with a view of a common enterprise is an equity buy, entitling the payer to a stake in the common enterprise, as agreed [07:34]
mircea_popescu and if no such agreement exists, to an equitable stake. [07:34]
kakobrekla midnightmagic cool then you wont have problems with quoting. [07:35]
midnightmagic kakobrekla: I have a problem with the quoting mircea does. It's illegal. [07:35]
midnightmagic kakobrekla: Plain logs I have no problem with. [07:35]
mircea_popescu now, this is how things are. this isn't open to debate, it's long established point of law. you're welcome to challenge it, but it can't be challenged by simple personal exceptionalism. [07:35]
mircea_popescu you'll have to quote and construct arguments. [07:35]
mircea_popescu now, on the basis of this, if you later charge more per item than what you've disbursed to your original equity holders, [07:35]
mircea_popescu you owe them on the difference. [07:36]
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midnightmagic kakobrekla: Actually, to be honest, I wish there were complete logs of this channel up somewhere.. [07:36]
pigeons why didnt you tell them and they buyers that "give me money and ill build something for you and mail it to you" legally means you get equity in the company too in your made up world when they stated taking orders [07:36]
kakobrekla midnightmagic :p [07:37]
mircea_popescu pigeons it's not my made-up world. [07:37]
pigeons well why didnt you bring it up when they started [07:37]
mircea_popescu actually, if bfl delivering weren't such a moot point, i'd be collecting these rights as we speak and sueingthem into oblivion anyway [07:37]
mircea_popescu pigeons i don't recall them asking / me caring at that tiem. [07:38]
pigeons why do you care now then [07:38]
mircea_popescu pigeons the price increase is the trigger. [07:38]
pigeons hypocrite [07:38]
mircea_popescu they could have *maybe* weaseled it past if they just kept doing the same thing. [07:38]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: Are pre-orders for nonexistent hardware illegal in China? [07:38]
mircea_popescu what's hypocritical about that ? [07:38]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic i have no idea about chinese law. my judgement as to ethics is based on my space, not theirs. [07:39]
mircea_popescu i would imagien ethics are universal, but who knows. [07:39]
Namworld They don't appear universal. Opinions seems to differ greatly on the topic. [07:40]
mircea_popescu hey, i'm strictly the keeper of mine. [07:40]
mircea_popescu which is why i even bothered to post. [07:40]
midnightmagic You are speaking of two orthogonal points it seems to me. [07:41]
mircea_popescu go on ? [07:41]
midnightmagic You are making comments about suing them into oblivion, while simultaneously ignoring jurisdiction. [07:41]
mircea_popescu read closer. sueing discussion was re bfl [07:42]
mircea_popescu i have jurisdiction on those. [07:42]
midnightmagic Ah so it is. [07:42]
mircea_popescu sadly they have no product, and so... [07:42]
midnightmagic I don't think you wrote those words. [07:44]
mircea_popescu which words ?! [07:44]
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mircea_popescu anyway, the shocker for me in all this is that i thought all this is plain obvious to anyone considering the matter. [07:47]
mircea_popescu turns out it's about as unexpected as it gets ? [07:47]
mircea_popescu i wonder wtf. [07:47]
midnightmagic It almost seems as though you have misinterpreted your own assertions. [07:50]
mircea_popescu that'd be a new one. [07:50]
midnightmagic Since I am no longer confident I am arguing just with you, I'm going to stop now. [07:50]
midnightmagic Tell whoever it is who's giving you those words to explain them better next time. [07:51]
mircea_popescu ... [07:53]
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midnightmagic Moving on, if and when there is in fact evidence that ngzhang is acting unethically (I do not view a price increase on its own as unethical) I will be happy to eat my own words. [07:54]
mircea_popescu so this is all fine & dandy best you can determine then ?\ [07:55]
midnightmagic Until then, I'm not going to discount his vastly understated Icarus+Lancelot contributions simply because some random guy asserts a bunch of unsubstantiated rumours to troll others into providing information when he could just ask. [07:55]
midnightmagic I am disappointed in the price increase if that's what you're asking. [07:56]
mircea_popescu what, an aesthetic rather than ethical consideration ? [07:56]
midnightmagic I wonder if you take my words and argue them with other people... [07:57]
midnightmagic It would provide the underpinnings of an excuse for what you're doing on your blog. [07:57]
mircea_popescu you're not quite that important, sorry to burst that bubble. [07:58]
mircea_popescu but you've failed to answer. [07:58]
midnightmagic How trite. [07:58]
mircea_popescu or are you about to tell me you're metaphisically dissapointed ? [07:58]
mircea_popescu cause there just aren't that many categories left. [07:58]
midnightmagic lol, I'm apparently important enough to misquote and reputationally impugn twice as retaliation for not being part of your echo chamber. [08:01]
mircea_popescu eh get out, retaliation and whatnot [08:01]
mircea_popescu vast conspiracies of evil people whispering me basic law in the ear [08:02]
mircea_popescu wth is this, the movies ? [08:02]
midnightmagic Nice deflection. [08:02]
midnightmagic I wouldn't call it aesthetic nor ethical objection to a price increase. [08:03]
mircea_popescu what deflection ? yer the one trying (kinda lame-y) to impugn or whatever. [08:03]
mircea_popescu yes well, it has to have a source you know ? [08:03]
midnightmagic Just simple disappointment because I was considering at last doing a trade-in of my Icarus but I don't want them to charge me batch #3 prices. [08:03]
mircea_popescu if it's not your idea of how things should be and it's not your idea of beauty, and it's not what you expect the gods want then what is it [08:04]
mircea_popescu you know midnightmagic , you are currently speaking in prose. [08:04]
mircea_popescu there's also verse. [08:04]
mircea_popescu these two are all there's available to you. if you're not speaking in verse, then it's prose. necessarily. [08:04]
midnightmagic Count the meter, I guess? [08:04]
mircea_popescu yeah. so, stop being such a weasel. [08:05]
mircea_popescu it's an ethical issue, you just don't want to face it. [08:05]
*hanbot* hi [08:05]
midnightmagic It's a personal loss of potential future earnings. I would say it's purely internal. [08:06]
midnightmagic (In terms of what disappoints me.) [08:06]
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midnightmagic I just find your hypocrisy growing by leaps and bounds this last while, and I don't understand what's unravelling you. [08:08]
mircea_popescu hum. [08:09]
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mircea_popescu can you articulate this feeling of yours ? [08:09]
midnightmagic What is your problem anyway? Like if bitcoin is such a source of contention for you, why don't you just shake your head at its stupid inanities (sociopathic community elements included) and move on? [08:10]
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mircea_popescu you can ask yourself the same thing, neh ? [08:10]
midnightmagic I'm asking you. [08:10]
mircea_popescu why exactly would i do or not do anything because some people are stupid/unethical/whartever ? [08:11]
mircea_popescu not really much to me either way. [08:11]
midnightmagic You sure don't act like it's not really much. You get worked up over little things more these days than you used to. [08:11]
mircea_popescu i get worked up ? [08:12]
mircea_popescu listen, simmer with all the projections kay ? [08:12]
midnightmagic Well, the vitriol you post here and on your blog is quite a vent. [08:12]
midnightmagic Like, what do you care whether evidence should or is or isn't updating my opinion? [08:13]
mircea_popescu i don't particularly care. i wanted to know whether it does or it doesn't. [08:13]
mircea_popescu can't get too far in life without evaluating people. [08:13]
midnightmagic Yeah but why? If I'm so inconsequential, so vapid that everything I ascribe to you is somehow just a reflection of self, and you're this bulletproof supercock, then why do you want to know? [08:14]
mircea_popescu because i want to know everything. [08:15]
midnightmagic Then you do care by your own admission. [08:15]
mircea_popescu no. caring is personal. knowledge is impersonal. there's a categorical distinction you're trying to equivocate. [08:15]
midnightmagic The drive to know a specific topic is very personal, especially when it's the personal drives of someone else. [08:16]
mircea_popescu not really. i'm merely interacting with you on the grounds of you speaking in this public channel. [08:16]
midnightmagic There is, and will never be, personal gain for you to know what's going on in my head. [08:16]
mircea_popescu you made some statements of a third party, they're part of the public record, [08:16]
mircea_popescu i wish to know for the future how much faith to place in your similar statements. [08:16]
midnightmagic No they're not. [08:16]
mircea_popescu that's your contention, but it doesn't carry much water with me. [08:17]
midnightmagic That's because you're an unabashed lawbreaker. [08:17]
mircea_popescu but as long as you talk in the market you're participating to the public discussion. [08:17]
midnightmagic Your poor English is making your diction ambiguous again. [08:18]
mircea_popescu lol ok. [08:18]
midnightmagic Well, if you think this is all a one-way sponge going on, I guess we're done. [08:19]
mircea_popescu sorry i couldn't care more. [08:19]
midnightmagic Don't worry, it's just because you're a sociopath. I'll care enough for the both of us. [08:20]
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mircea_popescu o look, we're nearing 50 th/s [08:35]
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gribble Current Blocks: 227087 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 720 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 10 hours, 17 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6308385.69152 | Estimated Percent Change: 30.13294 [08:36]
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Bowjob I gave a hobo $5.00 today [11:00]
Bowjob fuck, he probably will use it for drugs [11:00]
Bowjob :/ [11:00]
Namworld Your point is? [11:01]
Bowjob he said he was gonna buy a burger [11:01]
Bowjob i watched him as i walked upstairs, didnt go to the a&w closeby [11:01]
Namworld Still? [11:02]
Bowjob he probably lied :/ [11:02]
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Namworld A statement of the obvious. I prefer when they don't talk. [11:03]
mircea_popescu next time ask hi mif he accepts bitcoin [11:04]
mircea_popescu it's what bitcoin jesus (tm) would do. [11:04]
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mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2296705/Accept-raid-savings-face-ruin-Cyprus-warned-hopes-Russia-led-rescue-ice.html [11:08]
mircea_popescu heh. banking vacation extended till next tue [11:08]
mircea_popescu that's 8 days [11:08]
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mircea_popescu http://redhotrussia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/yekaterina-putina.jpg [11:18]
mircea_popescu the chick in that pic is putin's younger and rather hawd daughter. [11:19]
mircea_popescu supposedly that's her hubby. [11:19]
Bowjob nurseries are starting to open.. but they only pay $10.25 for the most part [11:24]
Bowjob bah [11:24]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1099 BTC [+] [11:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.109978 = 1.0998 BTC [+] [11:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.109979 = 0.6599 BTC [+] [11:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.01605 = 0.0803 BTC [-] [11:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4746 @ 0.00073067 = 3.4678 BTC [+] [11:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.3332 = 2.6656 BTC [-] [11:55]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155098.msg1651284#msg1651284 lol win. [12:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00074208 = 4.8606 BTC [+] [12:04]
Bowjob http://imgur.com/FrIyqxY [12:04]
Bowjob awww [12:04]
mircea_popescu eee [12:05]
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Diablo-D3 heh [12:15]
Diablo-D3 I just wrote a script that can calculate your SD earnings if you keep putting your entire money in [12:15]
Diablo-D3 http://pastebin.com/Sw5vbxre [12:15]
Diablo-D3 it obviously doesn't have all the possible outcomes [12:16]
Diablo-D3 but you can add those [12:17]
Diablo-D3 you have to edit the first two variables too [12:17]
Diablo-D3 and its rigged that you're doing 1 BTC per bet [12:18]
Diablo-D3 you'll have to multiply $winnings on line 53 against your bet size [12:18]
mircea_popescu so a basic martingale script ? [12:22]
Diablo-D3 http://pastebin.com/EPi228Ay [12:22]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: possibly [12:22]
Diablo-D3 now does bet sizes [12:23]
mircea_popescu i think i have bitcoin's funniest inbox. i say so. people more tortured than me show me snippets from their ticket systems such as "hi, how do i transfer this to silkroad?" [12:24]
mircea_popescu i lower my head in shame. [12:24]
Diablo-D3 what. [12:24]
mircea_popescu no, i don't have bitcoin's funniest inbox. bitcoin is just too funny for one single person. [12:24]
Diablo-D3 milk toad is the dumbest thing ever [12:25]
Diablo-D3 I mean, how can you NOT know thats a cia op [12:25]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 that aside, making a support ticked with your legit btc/usd exchanger on how to do this... [12:25]
Diablo-D3 yeah, thats just, wat [12:25]
Diablo-D3 especially since how the fuck is the exchange supposed to help you [12:26]
Diablo-D3 bitcoin _already does this_ [12:26]
mircea_popescu yeah [12:26]
Diablo-D3 I assume milk toad gives you a unique address to send to [12:26]
Diablo-D3 just _send it there_ [12:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00074086 = 5.1119 BTC [-] [12:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9585 @ 0.00074208 = 7.1128 BTC [+] [12:26]
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Diablo-D3 I dont think I wrote the actual winnings part right [12:27]
Diablo-D3 because it thinks I should have 1380 BTC from 33. [12:27]
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mircea_popescu sounds legit [12:31]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.899 = 2.697 BTC [+] [12:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8888 BTC [-] [12:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.885 = 2.655 BTC [-] [12:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.885 = 1.77 BTC [-] [12:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.88 = 1.76 BTC [-] [12:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.873 BTC [-] [12:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-] [12:38]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: well, I dont [12:41]
Diablo-D3 ALTHOUGH [12:41]
Diablo-D3 my early bidding wasnt 1 each [12:41]
Diablo-D3 er, early playing [12:41]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: my luck is probably going to run out, but average winning is 2.39% over 351 tries [12:42]
mircea_popescu pretty cool. [12:42]
mircea_popescu i've never won anything. [12:42]
Diablo-D3 I wish I had that 1380 [12:43]
Diablo-D3 then I'd be able to afford to start DMC 2.0 [12:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 50 @ 0.0018 = 0.09 BTC [+] [12:44]
Diablo-D3 oh durr [12:48]
Diablo-D3 I confused my variables [12:48]
Diablo-D3 yeah, my winnings are much more realistic now [12:48]
Diablo-D3 http://pastebin.com/vEbmt6PD [12:49]
mircea_popescu https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lgm4poF3JWE/TgsHwby-BlI/AAAAAAAADwQ/twan94HT6p4/020.jpg [13:03]
mircea_popescu ahaha so old, so new. [13:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6047 @ 0.00517705 = 31.3056 BTC [-] [13:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00073828 = 9.5238 BTC [-] [13:15]
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jurov strange...my phone suddenly says "Bitcoin: Package is invalid" [13:18]
jurov reinstalled the wallet app, all seems ok [13:18]
jurov good that i keep only pocket change there (if 1BTC is to be considered pocket change lol) [13:19]
Bowjob hey mp [13:21]
Bowjob u here [13:21]
mircea_popescu yeah [13:21]
Bowjob you should change the math question to more exotic ones [13:21]
Bowjob answering 36 everytime gets boring [13:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01358 BTC [-] [13:22]
Bowjob and a bot can easily spam it if they know the answer [13:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2372 @ 0.00073828 = 1.7512 BTC [-] [13:22]
mircea_popescu well a bot could but so far hasn't [13:22]
Bowjob not that a bot would spam bitbet but lol [13:22]
Bowjob yeah [13:22]
mircea_popescu if it happens i guess it gets changed [13:22]
mircea_popescu little incentive tyo spam really. [13:22]
Bowjob well it was more like to see who's mathematically challenged. or not [13:23]
Bowjob hehehe [13:23]
mircea_popescu http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4668 [13:23]
mircea_popescu The week of activities are set to conclude with a “Lace and Leather Burlsesque Show.” [13:23]
Bowjob ;;ticker [13:23]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.71001, Best ask: 68.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.18998, Last trade: 68.89999, 24 hour volume: 96113.23446697, 24 hour low: 58.80000, 24 hour high: 68.90400, 24 hour vwap: 63.89423 [13:23]
Bowjob hmm [13:23]
Bowjob poor fucker. my acquiantance wanted to buy bitcoins, i told him yeah, ill sell you at spot price. that was when bitcoin was $59 dollars [13:24]
Bowjob its scheduled this sunday [13:24]
mircea_popescu he's getting a deal. [13:27]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [13:27]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.70001, Best ask: 68.90582, Bid-ask spread: 0.20581, Last trade: 68.70001, 24 hour volume: 96314.01940328, 24 hour low: 58.80000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 63.91369 [13:27]
mircea_popescu whoa 68 [13:27]
Bowjob cypriot banks are still closed? [13:28]
mircea_popescu till tues [13:28]
Bowjob this is just the appetizer then [13:29]
jurov was anything interesting discussed last night? [13:31]
Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155730.0 [13:31]
Bowjob nothing new [13:31]
mircea_popescu jurov nothing much. depends what your interests are. [13:31]
Bowjob 75% of the voters think BFL should get a scammy tag [13:31]
mircea_popescu also, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135319215825.jpg [13:31]
jurov i ended by catholic churches in KC, thought prolly i can be doing sth more productive [13:31]
mircea_popescu o, that. [13:32]
mircea_popescu well there was the entire avalon drama earlier [13:32]
Bowjob oh yeah, batch 3 [13:32]
Bowjob prices in BTC, not tied to fiat [13:32]
mircea_popescu http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/21/us-cyprus-russia-euro-idUSBRE92K05K20130321 [13:33]
mircea_popescu this won't end well. [13:33]
jurov i wholeheartedly support avalon/bfl. as long as they cause interest in difficulty futures, which difficulty then fails to materialize [13:34]
Bowjob so each avalon batch 3 will cost 88 btc ea [13:34]
mircea_popescu haha [13:34]
mircea_popescu Bowjob no, more like 115 [13:34]
Bowjob well, 115 is the 4 modules [13:34]
Bowjob 88 btc for 3, + 2 btc for the psu [13:34]
Bowjob then shipping [13:34]
jurov ;;bc,stats [13:34]
gribble Current Blocks: 227144 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 663 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 22 hours, 24 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6391557.23688 | Estimated Percent Change: 31.84865 [13:35]
Bowjob they are really nailing batch 3 customers this time [13:35]
mircea_popescu i don't think they want any batch 3 customers [13:35]
Bowjob what i dont get is why are they taking a vacation [13:35]
Bowjob i mean wtf [13:35]
mircea_popescu basically, they got the design all paid and tested, will deliver whatever and now time to selfmine [13:35]
mircea_popescu just relocate. [13:36]
mircea_popescu move to new place, get some warehouses, start biz for real [13:36]
Bowjob a vacation.. they already did so much.. might as well finish the damn job [13:36]
jurov angela merkel can't be *that* stupid.. or she really doesn't have other option [13:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 17 @ 0.109 = 1.853 BTC [-] [13:37]
mircea_popescu jurov they totally fucked up that. i've seriously not seen worse diplomacy since bush. [13:37]
jurov yea totally [13:37]
mircea_popescu basically they failed to understand the "stolen" money in the oligarchs bank accounts isn't stolen by those oligarchs from the state [13:38]
mircea_popescu it's stolen by the state from the people. [13:38]
mircea_popescu they pinched the bear by the nose. [13:38]
jurov even without considering russians, that's still worst possible solution [13:39]
mircea_popescu it's the second time she fucked up, incidentally. the closing down of nuclear plants was already indicative. she doesn't think too well. [13:39]
jurov London City denizens must be seeing red, too [13:39]
mircea_popescu she just goes on whatever data she has. often that's crap, and when it is she doesn't know about it,. [13:39]
mircea_popescu no "data integrity sense" so to speak. [13:39]
mircea_popescu angela merkel lacks the parity bit. [13:39]
jurov lol [13:39]
mircea_popescu when it gets to the point where retired folks see plainly they're riding into a wall and they have no clue you know things won't end well. [13:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2255 @ 0.00073552 = 1.6586 BTC [-] [13:44]
Diablo-D3 oh, that german bitch? [13:45]
Diablo-D3 shes going to destroy germany at this rate [13:45]
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bitesak that's maybe what she was hired for [13:49]
Diablo-D3 so germany's bush [13:51]
Bowjob when germany gets destroyed bad things happen [13:51]
mircea_popescu pretty much comes to that. [13:51]
Bowjob maybe we'll see the 4th reich [13:51]
mircea_popescu not terribly likely. so far she's getting a dissident wing in her party [13:51]
mircea_popescu and crucial allies got quashed in landeselections [13:51]
mircea_popescu she's prolly getting wiped next turn [13:51]
jurov in other news, all libertarian hipsters will conveniently concentrate themselves on one ship: http://www.reddit.com/r/xnation [13:53]
mircea_popescu "IAmA RedditIsland Steering Team committee member and Seasteading Institute Ambassador. AMA" [13:54]
mircea_popescu ok. what ? [13:54]
jurov zactly as it says on title. [13:54]
mircea_popescu is this some sort of manga thing ? [13:54]
Diablo-D3 http://hbr.org/2013/04/when-ted-lost-control-of-its-crowd/ar/1 [13:55]
Diablo-D3 hehehehehe [13:55]
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mircea_popescu sgornick re http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/c8opxkz [13:59]
mircea_popescu all the bitcoin sellers are short bitcoin from the moment they take fiat till when they deliver btc [13:59]
mircea_popescu since most take the fiat first as a precaution there's unwanted short interest created in large volumes all the time [14:00]
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tiberiusiv damn almost 70 [14:04]
mircea_popescu getting there. [14:04]
mircea_popescu i guess 100 is the big q remaining [14:05]
tiberiusiv just going to end badly when everyone herds to the exit [14:05]
Bowjob but cashing out to fiat doesnt really make sense [14:05]
mircea_popescu "Internet tax supporters are hoping that a vote in the U.S. Senate as early as today will finally give them enough political leverage to require Americans to pay sales taxes when shopping online. [14:05]
mircea_popescu lalala. [14:05]
mircea_popescu please do good people. please do. [14:06]
tiberiusiv why not some people sitting on huge gains maybe they want to buystuff [14:06]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv it becomes problematic tho. the poor probably quit already, the rich really don't have a problem of getting fiat [14:06]
mircea_popescu they have a problem of storing wealth [14:06]
Bowjob i feel the same way [14:06]
Bowjob though im not wealthy LOL [14:06]
deadweasel http://www.campaignforliberty.org/national-blog/stop-the-internet-tax-mandate/ [14:06]
tiberiusiv thats true [14:06]
tiberiusiv still massive liquidity issues though [14:06]
Bowjob i have enough fiat for the next year to eat whatever I want [14:07]
mircea_popescu deadweasel nono. let them tax it. finally good reason to bitcoin. [14:07]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv you know the inflexibility article right ? [14:07]
deadweasel mircea_popescu: i see [14:07]
Bowjob hey mp, is your offer of get MPEX mentioned at a newspaper? [14:10]
Bowjob erm [14:10]
Bowjob is it still valid? [14:10]
Bowjob *to [14:10]
mircea_popescu sure. [14:11]
mircea_popescu but i mean... um. [14:11]
mircea_popescu it's kinda for professionals neh ? [14:11]
Bowjob http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/ [14:11]
Bowjob that okay? [14:11]
Bowjob since i've got nothing productive to do but fap all day, and I don't feel like working a min wage [14:12]
mircea_popescu i have no idea what that is, some local canadian paper ? [14:13]
Bowjob yeap [14:13]
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mircea_popescu ah, Free Urban Daily, Avg. Circulation: 132,216 [14:14]
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mircea_popescu doesn't seem like worth the bother, but if you've not anything better to do why not [14:14]
Bowjob aye [14:14]
Bowjob ;;ticker [14:16]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.43998, Best ask: 68.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06001, Last trade: 68.50000, 24 hour volume: 97812.61495029, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.03919 [14:16]
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tiberiusiv sellers are getting more motivated [14:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1696 @ 0.00072466 = 1.229 BTC [-] [14:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00071724 = 9.5752 BTC [-] [14:32]
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Enky ;;ticker [14:32]
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gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.01000, Best ask: 67.14374, Bid-ask spread: 0.13374, Last trade: 67.14374, 24 hour volume: 100774.97862368, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.15077 [14:32]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.108999 = 1.09 BTC [-] [14:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.109 = 0.327 BTC [+] [14:50]
mircea_popescu so ecb cyprus window ends march 25th [14:54]
TomServo pardon my ignorance, window for what? [14:56]
TomServo nvm [14:57]
bitesak they are threatening :) [14:57]
deadweasel coinbase got no more coins [14:57]
Ukto lvoe them canadians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w8762zEOkSo [14:58]
mircea_popescu all their base [14:58]
deadweasel doesn't make for much of a 'base' [14:58]
Ukto wait, coinbase what ? [14:58]
deadweasel cannot buy, cannot send. [14:58]
deadweasel i use them because it's easy, but it's not easy anymore. [14:59]
Ukto they are borked? is there a link ? [14:59]
Ukto news/forums article [14:59]
Ukto etc [14:59]
deadweasel i just went to my account, pending transfer from yesterday still stuck. couldn't buy because they'd reached their 'daily rolling limit' [14:59]
the-bucket-shop this is the third time they've run out as far as I know. [15:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+] [15:03]
ThickAsThieves i dont understand this whole 'we're out of coins' thing [15:04]
deadweasel i don't either [15:06]
zerokwel fractional banking :) [15:06]
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papaso open a account need to pay 30btc to owner? [15:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.47 = 1.88 BTC [-] [15:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.471 = 2.355 BTC [+] [15:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.47139999 BTC [+] [15:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00070779 = 1.4864 BTC [-] [15:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8289 @ 0.00070736 = 5.8633 BTC [-] [15:17]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00439 = 0.0263 BTC [+] [15:23]
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mircea_popescu i'm guessing he's new [15:30]
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ThickAsThieves ;;asks 69.99 [15:34]
gribble There are currently 10853.134 bitcoins offered at or under 69.99 USD, worth 747960.59105 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds [15:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 269 @ 0.0042 = 1.1298 BTC [-] [15:34]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 68.99 [15:35]
gribble There are currently 9907.9092 bitcoins offered at or under 68.99 USD, worth 682460.720431 USD in total. | Data vintage: 82.5744 seconds [15:35]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [15:36]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.26000, Best ask: 68.27000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 68.27000, 24 hour volume: 102768.56697483, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.31059 [15:36]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 68.88 [15:36]
gribble There are currently 772.42237 bitcoins offered at or under 68.88 USD, worth 52976.3574245 USD in total. | Data vintage: 118.8765 seconds [15:36]
ThickAsThieves hige wall [15:36]
ThickAsThieves huge [15:36]
imsaguy it'll fall [15:36]
ThickAsThieves must be fake [15:36]
imsaguy obvious walls are obvious [15:36]
ThickAsThieves so its just big players trying to slow down the price to buy more? [15:37]
imsaguy perhaps [15:37]
smickles risingquickly is dangerous [15:38]
ThickAsThieves indeed [15:38]
imsaguy twps [15:38]
ThickAsThieves thank you bitcoin gods [15:38]
imsaguy *cough* #bitcoin-church *cough* [15:39]
imsaguy ;;later tell jcpham https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/579961_10200487886494770_693568315_n.jpg [15:41]
gribble The operation succeeded. [15:41]
abracadabra ugh! [15:42]
abracadabra ffs [15:42]
abracadabra wtf did i click that [15:42]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135422020536.jpg try this too [15:43]
abracadabra bit better thx [15:43]
abracadabra http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lovaddkzaz1qjdckmo1_500.jpg [15:43]
imsaguy abracadabra: it wasn't address to you [15:44]
abracadabra yes yes [15:44]
abracadabra i know [15:44]
abracadabra :/ [15:44]
abracadabra i'm nosy [15:44]
abracadabra :p [15:44]
imsaguy s/address/addressed/ [15:44]
imsaguy thats what you get [15:44]
imsaguy be glad I didn't post #2 in the channel [15:45]
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abracadabra heh [15:45]
abracadabra thx for that [15:45]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128270463369.jpg ? [15:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2184 @ 0.00070736 = 1.5449 BTC [-] [15:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1616 @ 0.00070324 = 1.1364 BTC [-] [15:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4714 = 4.714 BTC [+] [15:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.475 BTC [+] [15:52]
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MJR_ hi everyone! [15:53]
MJR_ ;;ticker [15:53]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.07176, Best ask: 68.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02824, Last trade: 68.10000, 24 hour volume: 103087.94303030, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.34889 [15:53]
smickles howdy [15:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.108 = 0.972 BTC [-] [15:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-] [15:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.898 = 1.796 BTC [+] [15:58]
mircea_popescu alloh [15:58]
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ThickAsThieves mornin [16:05]
MJR_ what's new? [16:07]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136086280531.jpg [16:08]
imsaguy it must be fapfapfap o clock in romania [16:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.46 = 1.38 BTC [-] [16:11]
mircea_popescu aaalways. [16:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.108999 = 1.09 BTC [+] [16:12]
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mircea_popescu anyone wanna join my echo chamber ? [16:24]
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MJR_ what is an echo chamber? [16:27]
ThickAsThieves a chamber of echos [16:30]
ThickAsThieves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_(media) [16:30]
ThickAsThieves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber [16:30]
mircea_popescu MJR_ like a failed fortress of solitude [16:31]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.17241 = 1.7241 BTC [-] [16:39]
MJR_ sign me up [16:40]
mircea_popescu there's also naked chix [16:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [+] [16:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+] [16:43]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.004397 = 0.044 BTC [+] [16:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 270 @ 0.0044 = 1.188 BTC [+] [16:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 275 @ 0.0044 = 1.21 BTC [+] [16:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00071173 = 4.0569 BTC [+] [16:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6904 @ 0.00071507 = 4.9368 BTC [+] [16:57]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8979 = 1.7958 BTC [-] [17:06]
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MJR_ so, probably unlikely but I like to think this rally was my birthday present :) [17:14]
ThickAsThieves happy bday [17:15]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [17:15]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.90000, Best ask: 68.90582, Bid-ask spread: 0.00582, Last trade: 68.90582, 24 hour volume: 107834.14770626, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.65216 [17:15]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 69.98 [17:15]
gribble There are currently 8729.3961 bitcoins offered at or under 69.98 USD, worth 601874.449587 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds [17:15]
MJR_ thanks :) [17:16]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P570T] 6 @ 0.05341351 = 0.3205 BTC [-] [17:17]
MJR_ I'm 31 now...old man [17:19]
ThickAsThieves younger than i [17:20]
splnkr I'd think the "-assets" channel suffix kind of implies an over-30 set [17:21]
ThickAsThieves my birthday is soon, i want 1btc=$100 for my birthday [17:21]
ThickAsThieves oh i bet we have a fair amount of youngins [17:21]
splnkr sure, but i'd bet it skews a whole generation older than #bitcoin =P [17:22]
MJR_ oh nice [17:22]
MJR_ I feel better [17:22]
mod6 heh [17:22]
MJR_ in the NYC start up scene im old [17:22]
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splnkr y'all hiring? [17:23]
splnkr hehe [17:23]
MJR_ bunch of 24 year olds running around [17:23]
MJR_ changing the world with rounded corners and drop shadows ;) [17:23]
splnkr they need some grown ups around, whether they know it or not [17:23]
MJR_ lol yes [17:23]
mod6 ;;calc 2013 - 24 [17:23]
gribble 1989 [17:23]
mod6 lol [17:23]
splnkr wow, post-Reagan [17:23]
MJR_ as far as hiring, not yet, hopefully soon? [17:24]
ThickAsThieves dropshadows are for amatuers [17:24]
MJR_ hehehe [17:24]
splnkr those born after Reagan probably know a thing or two about Ronald, but those of us who lived through it remember NANCY [17:24]
MJR_ yes you know you are l33t when you get gradients going... [17:24]
ThickAsThieves lol [17:24]
mod6 haha splnkr [17:25]
ThickAsThieves mjr ur a designer? [17:25]
MJR_ no... [17:25]
MJR_ but I can and do design pages [17:25]
ThickAsThieves why the dropshadow ref [17:25]
MJR_ I just like to make fun of most web based things which focus on form over function [17:25]
MJR_ I actually like those things [17:26]
jurov i rather remember Raisa Maximovna :DD [17:26]
MJR_ but those+jQuery do not make you an awesome app [17:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.859 = 7.731 BTC [-] [17:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.859 BTC [-] [17:27]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [17:27]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.75000, Best ask: 68.90581, Bid-ask spread: 0.15581, Last trade: 68.75000, 24 hour volume: 107979.47490578, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.67794 [17:27]
kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eur [17:27]
gribble 1 BTC = 68.75000 U.S. dollars = 53.3359193 Euros [17:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.108999 = 0.218 BTC [+] [17:27]
MJR_ I just think that a lot of people are too focused on appearances, and it's kind of shallow in the web startup scene [17:28]
MJR_ I think bitcoin is more focused on substance rather than "social" features [17:28]
MJR_ anyway, I am a generalist, jack of all trades [17:29]
MJR_ def master of none [17:29]
ThickAsThieves think design & mktg are important, but not an excuse to have lacluster sunstance or functionality [17:29]
ThickAsThieves substance [17:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.859 BTC [-] [17:29]
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jurov well, what did you expect? 20somethings to tackle deeper issues? [17:29]
ThickAsThieves in general most bitcoin biz is bad at business [17:29]
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jurov i was in one coworking house here, too... they do marketing and take it very seriously [17:30]
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jurov datamining about what makes something viral.. their holy grail [17:30]
MJR_ yep [17:32]
Troic_ they are never going to get it [17:32]
jurov what i'm doing went completely beyond them... and when i told "and i also manage difficulty derivatives on other exchange" outright laughter [17:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-] [17:32]
MJR_ like...being able to say words like "viral" and "long tail" is not enough [17:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.845202 BTC [-] [17:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.845201 = 1.6904 BTC [-] [17:32]
ThickAsThieves new fringe marketing is always passe after a year or two [17:33]
ThickAsThieves always somehting new [17:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.8451 = 9.2961 BTC [-] [17:33]
MJR_ jurov: yes, exactly. [17:33]
ThickAsThieves groupon, dead [17:33]
ThickAsThieves social media, profitless [17:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.845 BTC [-] [17:33]
ThickAsThieves et [17:33]
ThickAsThieves c [17:33]
MJR_ I guess it is just don't let pretty effects be a crutch or mask poor functionality [17:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84455 BTC [-] [17:33]
ThickAsThieves less is more [17:33]
MJR_ I agree [17:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8445 BTC [-] [17:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.843 BTC [-] [17:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.842 BTC [-] [17:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.842 BTC [-] [17:34]
MJR_ by the way? how does the smoky dragon award work? [17:34]
jurov i actually wanted to get in touch with the founder, he created finviz.com so i thought he may be interested [17:34]
MJR_ is it a nomination thing? [17:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8321 BTC [-] [17:34]
MJR_ application? [17:34]
jurov but he got a daughter so was never around [17:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.832 BTC [-] [17:34]
jurov or he was tired from the kindergarten :) [17:34]
MJR_ to which august body should I submit my claim for the Slightly Smoking Dragon award? [17:35]
MJR_ how is the shared space jurov [17:37]
MJR_ I may look into something like that [17:37]
jurov MJR_ submit it to rota :) [17:38]
jurov and the coworking.. dunno. while being able to smoke waterpipe while working is very fine [17:39]
jurov i ended up working back from home [17:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1425 @ 0.00496604 = 7.0766 BTC [-] [17:39]
jurov i didn't really got the human interaction i hoped for [17:40]
MJR_ yeah, I can see that happening [17:41]
MJR_ I think there is a huge untapped market for a more ubiquitous shared work space [17:41]
MJR_ that is basically what Starbucks is [17:41]
MJR_ if someone could offer what Starbucks offers, but better (more professional seating, Ethernet jacks, small conference rooms) and then franchise it [17:42]
jurov well, mere "shared space" isn't what i need [17:43]
MJR_ yes, it's the interactions... [17:43]
jurov i need to talk with someone who is interested in waht i do [17:43]
MJR_ I agree [17:43]
MJR_ feel the same way [17:43]
jurov otherwise i have everything i need within 50m of my flat :) [17:44]
MJR_ I am wondering if any of the hacker spaces in NYC have bitcoin fever [17:44]
smickles ;;ticker [17:53]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.60001, Best ask: 68.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28999, Last trade: 68.60001, 24 hour volume: 85316.30339518, 24 hour low: 61.60000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 65.50233 [17:53]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc/[ticker --last] [17:53]
gribble Error: "bc,24hprc/" is not a valid command. [17:53]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc / [ticker --last] [17:53]
gribble 65.41 [17:53]
smickles ;;calc [bc,24hprc] / [ticker --last] [17:53]
gribble 0.95349840328 [17:54]
smickles comment fuckup spam [17:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.54 = 1.08 BTC [-] [17:57]
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pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [18:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.31945, Best ask: 69.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.57055, Last trade: 70.00000, 24 hour volume: 92664.38564521, 24 hour low: 61.60000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 65.81245 [18:01]
pizzaman1337 how can the last trade be > 24 hour high? :( [18:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00072659 = 7.3386 BTC [+] [18:01]
smickles pizzaman1337: are you not familiar with the way religion works? [18:01]
smickles it's like that [18:01]
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smickles they come from different sources [18:02]
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smickles ;;ticker [18:02]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.00000, Best ask: 70.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 70.01000, 24 hour volume: 92664.38564521, 24 hour low: 61.60000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 65.81245 [18:02]
smickles i think the high comes from mtgox's http ticker, and the last is a stored value from the websocket [18:03]
pizzaman1337 ok, http must be behind, but I look at that one frequently [18:04]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [18:04]
gribble 227.236835 seconds [18:04]
pizzaman1337 looks like that wall at 69 is gone though, obviously [18:04]
smickles 'cause amphipod showed the 70 at about the same time you tickered [18:04]
ThickAsThieves 71.25 [18:05]
Ukto ;;ticker [18:05]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.55000, Best ask: 71.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45000, Last trade: 70.55000, 24 hour volume: 92664.38564521, 24 hour low: 61.60000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 65.81245 [18:05]
ThickAsThieves coinlab seems to have the freshest data [18:06]
pizzaman1337 well, looks like this one should be closing out before too long if this keeps up: http://bitbet.us/bet/206/bitcoin-market-cap-above-1-billion-before-end/ [18:07]
MJR_ $71 fuck [18:09]
smickles we've been outside of a 20day std. dev. for 3 days now [18:09]
MJR_ it keeps surprising me with how fast it moves [18:09]
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ThickAsThieves someone mustve clicked the coinlab Buy $500k button [18:09]
MJR_ lol nice [18:10]
MJR_ bitcoin stahp! [18:10]
ThickAsThieves buy before there are no bitcoins left! [18:10]
MJR_ lol yeah [18:10]
smickles i bet a lotta people look at this chart and see nothing but pump and dump [18:10]
MJR_ yep [18:10]
MJR_ that's why I wish it would slow back down [18:10]
kakobrekla MJR_ help it by selling all u got [18:11]
MJR_ 100 by 2014...but the market knows best I guess [18:11]
MJR_ hehehe [18:11]
splnkr i don't see how there's any ceiling [18:11]
MJR_ to be honest...I don't have a lot of coin [18:11]
ThickAsThieves 100 by May [18:11]
MJR_ it's all tied up in bonds and stocks and options [18:11]
MJR_ and I don't want to unwind those positions...but and hold strategy [18:12]
MJR_ buy* [18:12]
smickles well, if peeps in the eu really are getting spooked and buying coins, when will the spooing end [18:12]
splnkr the ceiling is total monetary value in the global economy divided by 21 million [18:12]
splnkr that's a lot more than 100 [18:12]
MJR_ yes [18:12]
smickles butt and hold is my strategy too :D [18:12]
MJR_ hehehe [18:12]
smickles splnkr: that's a pipedream tho [18:13]
MJR_ technically...the ceiling is all the goods and services on earth [18:13]
MJR_ however you choose to denominate that [18:13]
smickles MJR_: you're not accounting for the fact that people can lend money [18:13]
smickles or create derivitives [18:14]
smickles (or are those services) [18:14]
MJR_ well...that is not real...I was just talking to someone about this yesterday [18:14]
MJR_ what I love about options on mpex [18:14]
smickles how's it not real? [18:14]
MJR_ what is my potential loss when selling a call? [18:15]
MJR_ most people would say infinite [18:15]
MJR_ but that is only one way to look at it [18:15]
MJR_ the other way is one bitcoin [18:15]
MJR_ I can only lose one bitcoin because its a contract to buy one bitcoin [18:15]
MJR_ so...viewing "money" as assets [18:16]
smickles but money is more complicated than just assets [18:16]
MJR_ cuts through the fog of derivatives and lending [18:16]
splnkr for the sake of argument and simple math let's value the global economy at $21 trillion [18:16]
MJR_ if I say a barrel of oil [18:16]
splnkr that would put the theoretical ceiling at $1,000,000 USD / BTC [18:17]
splnkr lol [18:17]
MJR_ what is the global economy so were clear [18:17]
splnkr it's outside the scope of this discussion i think [18:17]
smickles if i lend 1 btc to a person with good enough credit in the community, i can treat the owenership of that loan as money (about equal to 1 btc) [18:17]
splnkr just ballparking [18:17]
MJR_ well...maybe [18:18]
MJR_ fractional reserve style... [18:18]
smickles not fractional reserve tho [18:18]
splnkr i mean that's if every fiat currency goes poof and everyone adopts BTC [18:18]
MJR_ but if you view the global economy as all the stuff and hours in the world [18:18]
smickles i'm not lending out others deposits [18:18]
splnkr who's doing fractional reserve bitcoin lending? [18:19]
splnkr lol [18:19]
splnkr now would be a good time to get started [18:19]
MJR_ nobody I know of [18:19]
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MJR_ doubt people would take too kindly to that [18:19]
splnkr i certainly wouldn't [18:19]
MJR_ me neither [18:19]
MJR_ the way to do that is with certificates of deposit [18:19]
smickles you can do lending and create more money w/o doing fractional reserve. so there is more money than goods and services [18:19]
smickles that was my point [18:20]
MJR_ well... [18:20]
MJR_ in a sense I suppose [18:20]
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MJR_ but lets say I lend u 100 BTC [18:20]
MJR_ but now I want to buy something [18:20]
MJR_ well double entry accounting says I have a receivable [18:20]
MJR_ an asset [18:21]
MJR_ you have a liability [18:21]
splnkr all that's much more complicated, i just think anyone saying there's a hard ceiling for USD/BTC in the double or even triple digits is BSing [18:21]
MJR_ there isn't, my point is it's high time to remember what money is [18:21]
MJR_ money is what you can buy with it [18:21]
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MJR_ an abstraction [18:22]
MJR_ the value of currency can fluctuate [18:22]
MJR_ but money is money [18:22]
MJR_ stuff and time [18:22]
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MJR_ [18:23]
smickles buy my options :D [18:24]
smickles lolwut [18:24]
smickles $depth o.btcusd.c49n [18:25]
mpexbot smickles: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [18:25]
smickles $depth o.btcusd.c490n [18:25]
mpexbot smickles: Bids: ['1000 @ 0.29444229'] [18:25]
mpexbot smickles: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.4490245', '9 @ 5.0'] [18:25]
smickles at fuppin' 5btc [18:25]
smickles srsly [18:25]
smickles ;;calc 49/(1-5) [18:25]
gribble -12.25 [18:25]
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MJR_ ;;ticker [18:31]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.50003, Best ask: 70.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 70.91209, 24 hour volume: 93150.81477258, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 71.25000, 24 hour vwap: 66.30872 [18:31]
MJR_ ;;calc (66.30-41)/66.30 [18:32]
gribble 0.381598793363 [18:32]
MJR_ it can never be worth more than 1 right? [18:33]
smickles MJR_: mpex uses bc,24hprc, if that's what you were calcin' [18:33]
MJR_ ah yes [18:33]
smickles ;;calc 75/.01 [18:33]
gribble 7500 [18:33]
MJR_ gribble can give that? or do I have to use mpexbot? [18:33]
smickles ;;calc 49/.01 [18:33]
gribble 4900 [18:33]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [18:34]
gribble 66.21 [18:34]
MJR_ ;;calc (66.21-41)/66.21 [18:34]
gribble 0.380758193626 [18:34]
MJR_ 0_o [18:34]
smickles MJR_: a c490n would break even at a price of 4900usd/btc if sold at ~ 1 [18:34]
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MJR_ ah [18:35]
smickles so 5 is mind melting [18:35]
MJR_ yes lol [18:35]
MJR_ these 41 calls have been good to me [18:35]
smickles the c490n is a 'fat finger' play [18:36]
ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats [18:36]
gribble Current Blocks: 227191 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 616 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 18 hours, 17 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6427426.4485 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.58858 [18:36]
MJR_ though im kicking myself for selling half of mine at 2x my price [18:36]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [18:36]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 6427426.4485 based on data since last change | 7111506.45763 based on data for last three days [18:36]
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smickles MJR_: you couldn't've known [18:36]
smickles i took profits too [18:36]
smickles and then it just kept going up [18:36]
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smickles so hopefully span and cyprus get a full scale bitcoin economy going. that would be lovely [18:37]
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MJR_ yes! [18:37]
MJR_ I figured that now im playing with the houses money [18:38]
MJR_ as this half is profit [18:38]
MJR_ someone at work wanted to short [18:38]
smickles heh, that's a good idea which the casino's made up to get your money back in their hands [18:38]
MJR_ yeah [18:38]
pgp2 btw regarding conversation of cieling on BTC, you need to consider aggregate asset values, not annual GDP... Take a look at http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071029233836AAnbTnr [18:38]
MJR_ yes I agree [18:40]
MJR_ but it is hard to calculate on that scale [18:41]
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MJR_ valuation is one of the hardest things and one of the most important things [18:41]
MJR_ I think [18:42]
smickles $depth o.btcusd.c310t [18:42]
MJR_ it's subjective at the end of the day [18:42]
mpexbot smickles: Bids: ['1000 @ 0.53338816', '2 @ 0.42751695'] [18:42]
mpexbot smickles: Asks: ['1 @ 0.63235001', '1000 @ 0.64887279'] [18:42]
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smickles ;;calc 36/(1-.63) [18:42]
gribble 97.2972972973 [18:42]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 210 @ 0.00072 = 0.1512 BTC [-] [18:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17501 BTC [-] [18:46]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.175 = 0.35 BTC [-] [18:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17002 BTC [-] [18:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-] [18:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.16 = 0.32 BTC [-] [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-] [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC [-] [18:47]
MJR_ what is cognitive? [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85896 BTC [+] [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85897 BTC [+] [18:47]
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smickles MJR_: "Cognitive Mining is a well established and trusted entity which was previously traded on GLBSE, but only because of the closure is moving here. Cognitive will significantly increase BTC-TC revenue via trade fees, and increase site exposure and trust because a trusted entity is trusting you!" [18:48]
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smickles isn't it funny that they tell you they are trusted? [18:49]
kakobrekla its terrible is what it is. [18:49]
MJR_ lol [18:49]
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MJR_ that is ugly from purely a grammar and style sense [18:50]
MJR_ but they should just skip ahead to the tautology club [18:50]
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kakobrekla that guy is just a kid [18:51]
kakobrekla in years he will look back at this and be embarassed [18:51]
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smickles best argument for why bitcoin is a game [18:51]
smickles the kids involved now will be too embarassed in a few years [18:51]
deadweasel unless they held onto a pile of btc [18:52]
smickles "naw, that wasn't real money, that was a game. Like warhammere 40k" [18:52]
kakobrekla some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night [18:53]
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MJR_ lol [18:53]
MJR_ you know what's awesome? [18:53]
MJR_ when your hedge to the main position does great too [18:53]
smickles then next line ? [18:53]
MJR_ though its an imperfect hedge [18:54]
MJR_ I hedge my portfolio partially with lending dollars on bitfinex [18:54]
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smickles ok, well, the next line in the sand is 84 [18:57]
kakobrekla yeah speaking of, 100$ will make me look ridiculus [18:58]
kakobrekla if hit soon [18:58]
deadweasel at this rate, very soon [18:59]
kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/316/bitcoin-to-trade-at-100-usd-by-the/ [19:00]
kakobrekla not much game?? [19:00]
pgp2 time between blocks now at 6.46 min.... damn - mining is about to become really hard... [19:01]
kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [19:01]
gribble Current Blocks: 227193 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 614 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 18 hours, 4 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6427539.17082 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.5909 [19:01]
pgp2 32% [19:01]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4102 = 4.102 BTC [19:01]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [19:01]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.00055, Best ask: 72.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00945, Last trade: 72.01000, 24 hour volume: 93554.33064456, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 72.35000, 24 hour vwap: 66.47931 [19:01]
Uglux 73 [19:04]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.85897 = 1.7179 BTC [+] [19:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4600001 = 0.92 BTC [+] [19:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-] [19:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4102 = 1.2306 BTC [19:06]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00425 = 0.425 BTC [-] [19:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0042 = 0.42 BTC [-] [19:09]
splnkr latest mtgox high 74.9 [19:09]
* splnkr wonders if that's the only thing that's high [19:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 75 @ 0.00496604 = 0.3725 BTC [-] [19:09]
ThickAsThieves holy moly [19:10]
deadweasel ;;ticker [19:10]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.43201, Best ask: 74.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.26799, Last trade: 74.43201, 24 hour volume: 94640.92768269, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 66.64683 [19:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.108999 BTC [+] [19:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14003 BTC [+] [19:11]
MJR_ ;;calc 5500 * 0.00496604 [19:11]
gribble 27.31322 [19:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 4 @ 0.06357617 = 0.2543 BTC [19:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14002 BTC [-] [19:12]
MJR_ ;;calc 27.31322 * 74.90 [19:12]
gribble 2045.760178 [19:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.14 = 1.12 BTC [-] [19:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.12205 BTC [-] [19:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.0042 = 0.0462 BTC [-] [19:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00450321 = 0.6755 BTC [-] [19:15]
deadweasel ;;goxlag [19:15]
gribble 0.064766 seconds [19:15]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [19:15]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.01505, Best ask: 74.29875, Bid-ask spread: 0.28370, Last trade: 74.01505, 24 hour volume: 95240.44718836, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 66.69937 [19:15]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 80 [19:16]
gribble There are currently 7596.5366 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 589106.947162 USD in total. | Data vintage: 119.0183 seconds [19:16]
ThickAsThieves whoa [19:16]
pizzaman1337 here we come $100 [19:16]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 85 [19:16]
gribble There are currently 10524.979 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 822437.142286 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.3512 seconds [19:16]
ThickAsThieves yoooo [19:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.003 = 0.06 BTC [-] [19:16]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 89.99 [19:16]
gribble There are currently 11537.613 bitcoins offered at or under 89.99 USD, worth 910459.618314 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.3556 seconds [19:16]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 99.99 [19:16]
gribble There are currently 19291.337 bitcoins offered at or under 99.99 USD, worth 1669256.72911 USD in total. | Data vintage: 30.9742 seconds [19:16]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 3 @ 0.06156249 = 0.1847 BTC [-] [19:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.003 = 0.15 BTC [-] [19:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-] [19:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [-] [19:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 75 @ 0.003 = 0.225 BTC [-] [19:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 125 @ 0.00450321 = 0.5629 BTC [-] [19:19]
deadweasel ;;goxlag [19:19]
gribble 1.706159 seconds [19:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0099 = 0.0198 BTC [+] [19:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 99 @ 0.003 = 0.297 BTC [-] [19:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 500 @ 0.003 = 1.5 BTC [-] [19:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 500 @ 0.003 = 1.5 BTC [-] [19:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.44002 = 2.6401 BTC [-] [19:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 900 @ 0.003 = 2.7 BTC [-] [19:21]
pizzaman1337 bitcoincharts died for me :( [19:21]
pizzaman1337 nvm, back [19:22]
mod6 yeah, its been awol for a hot minute [19:22]
topace fuck [19:22]
MJR_ I wish they showed how many orders they do per day [19:22]
topace vtx price was waaaaaaaaay off [19:22]
MJR_ would be a better measure of liquidity [19:23]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.06211269 = 0.1242 BTC [+] [19:24]
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ThickAsThieves topace, the shares were undersold at .003? [19:30]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06263959 BTC [+] [19:31]
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topace yea the rate calculuation fucked up [19:33]
topace fixing now [19:33]
topace brefore brign it back up [19:34]
ThickAsThieves ouch, are you gonna reverse thos etrades? [19:34]
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ThickAsThieves poor sdice... http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=d602ad09f967f11d50fcb2f98df8d001a812ce4965d6e69340f8961aeb32f27c [19:36]
kakobrekla so avalon is 7500$ today [19:36]
kakobrekla not bad [19:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00072255 = 5.5636 BTC [-] [19:36]
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unbalanced Won't a big sdice win like that just encourage more desperate rubes to flush their bitcoins away? [19:39]
MJR_ yep [19:39]
MJR_ :) [19:39]
MJR_ 01f44d [19:40]
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MJR_ that guy looked like an idiot on Bloomberg video [19:45]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [19:49]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.80000, Best ask: 72.80001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 72.80000, 24 hour volume: 96873.60013063, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 67.02669 [19:49]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [19:49]
gribble 0 seconds [19:49]
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MJR_ strangely, I think we are going to see a bunch of new money coming in [19:58]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [19:58]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.80003, Best ask: 73.60691, Bid-ask spread: 0.80688, Last trade: 73.60691, 24 hour volume: 97393.33155240, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 67.08461 [19:58]
mircea_popescu bejesus [19:58]
MJR_ lol [19:58]
MJR_ can't turn your head without it jumping [19:58]
topace fixified [19:59]
mod6 :D [19:59]
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kakobrekla remember i made this in feb http://shrani.si/f/3l/OQ/2JCCgxKS/critpred3.png [20:01]
kakobrekla and it was looking optimistic or somthing [20:01]
kakobrekla we are way past the scale of the chart. [20:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 130 @ 0.3899 = 50.687 BTC [+] [20:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3899 = 7.798 BTC [+] [20:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3899 = 3.1192 BTC [+] [20:02]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla indeed. [20:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00072255 = 1.0477 BTC [-] [20:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1167 @ 0.00072659 = 0.8479 BTC [+] [20:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6383 @ 0.00073058 = 4.6633 BTC [+] [20:03]
MJR_ nice! [20:03]
MJR_ ;;calc 2500 * 0.00073058 [20:04]
gribble 1.82645 [20:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 174 @ 0.3899 = 67.8426 BTC [+] [20:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [+] [20:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 725 @ 0.00450321 = 3.2648 BTC [-] [20:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 675 @ 0.0045032 = 3.0397 BTC [-] [20:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8600 @ 0.0043113 = 37.0772 BTC [-] [20:05]
mircea_popescu i had no idea cavirtex is actually making money. [20:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.3899 = 4.6788 BTC [+] [20:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3899 = 3.899 BTC [+] [20:06]
ThickAsThieves they arent [20:06]
ThickAsThieves they have revenue [20:06]
ThickAsThieves no profit [20:06]
mircea_popescu hum [20:07]
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mircea_popescu raising 5k btc for 10% so a 50k btc float predicated on 37k monthly trade of which they charge what, 1% ? 0.5% ? [20:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3899 = 1.9495 BTC [+] [20:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3899 BTC [+] [20:08]
mircea_popescu !ticker havelock vtx [20:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.38990000 / 0.4020257 / 0.45780000 (498 shares, 200.20880000 BTC), 7D: 0.38990000 / 0.40701368 / 0.46140000 (570 shares, 231.99780000 BTC), 30D: 0.38990000 / 0.40701368 / 0.46140000 (570 shares, 231.99780000 BTC) [20:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06458438 BTC [+] [20:10]
smickles ;;calc 75/(1-.06458438) [20:11]
gribble 80.1782634333 [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3899 = 1.1697 BTC [+] [20:11]
ColdHardMetal cavirtex makes 3% on both sides of a trade. It's kind of gross. [20:11]
mircea_popescu can't even argue with him anymore. [20:11]
unbalanced kakobrekla: nice charts, what assumptions did you use? I'm still foggy on difficulty driving price. [20:11]
mircea_popescu ColdHardMetal what, seriously ? [20:11]
smickles $vwap ^oix [20:11]
mpexbot smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 55.42906834 high: 57.60574549 low: 51.19305144 volume: 14257 btc: 1202.67534357 30 day: no data [20:11]
ColdHardMetal yep. [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3899 = 3.899 BTC [+] [20:11]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 37 * 6% [20:11]
gribble Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) [20:11]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 37 * .06 [20:11]
gribble 2.22 [20:11]
mircea_popescu 2k a month isn't too bad. [20:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3899 = 7.798 BTC [+] [20:12]
mircea_popescu if they use the ipo funding to actually get registered with the whatever proper authorities / get a banking partner this may work out well for everyone. [20:12]
kakobrekla unbalanced that is one of the first results, after 30days runtime, the fit was better, input data is price per difficulty [20:12]
unbalanced That seems to be the plan [20:12]
mircea_popescu unbalanced o, they said so ? that;'s constructive then. [20:12]
ColdHardMetal Canadian securities regs aren't far off SEC. I'd be surprised if they aren't in violationalready tbh. [20:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2943 @ 0.0043113 = 12.6882 BTC [-] [20:13]
unbalanced They're pretty far along that as far as payment processing / licensing [20:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 12023 @ 0.004101 = 49.3063 BTC [-] [20:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8400 @ 0.004 = 33.6 BTC [-] [20:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3899 = 3.899 BTC [+] [20:13]
unbalanced VTX "prospectus": https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=7 [20:14]
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unbalanced Disclosure: I want to own some but will have to wait. [20:14]
mircea_popescu bah pdf [20:14]
ThickAsThieves no dividends? [20:14]
unbalanced Correct [20:14]
unbalanced AFAICT [20:15]
mircea_popescu growing rapidly. VirtEx is experiencing explosive growth shown by: Revenue increasing 146% in the last 2 months (Jan/Feb 2013) [20:15]
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mircea_popescu conveniently not pointing out this is fiat growth and thus irrelevant, right ? [20:15]
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ThickAsThieves i couldnt find a reason to buy in [20:16]
mircea_popescu ColdHardMetal Greater than 2500 0.50%. I dunno how defensible that 3% is given that 100 per monht... [20:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3898 = 9.745 BTC [-] [20:16]
ThickAsThieves also their website is missing the Buy $1m button [20:17]
ThickAsThieves not to mention it has no Buy Now button at all... [20:17]
ColdHardMetal I don't think it's defensible at all. However in my case it's easier than having to go through multiple wires and currency conversions to get funds where I need them, so I just suck it up and pay. [20:17]
mircea_popescu "with opportunity to continue growing rapidly as more Canadians learns about the Bitcoin" [20:17]
mircea_popescu haha [20:17]
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mircea_popescu ColdHardMetal if you only need ~100 i'd imagine you're connected enough to handle it otc ? [20:18]
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unbalanced 100BTC per 120d is the threshold to escape 3% [20:19]
ColdHardMetal Maybe, but speed counts sometimes. I don't really use them often, every 2-3 months. I can use them without having to submit any dox to anyone whcih keeps things simple. [20:19]
mircea_popescu so basically they have this construct where the havelock fund owns shares and then the participants on havelock own shares in the fund thus eschewing shareholder reporting [20:19]
mircea_popescu this thing is dangerous. [20:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.441 = 3.087 BTC [+] [20:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.004 = 4 BTC [-] [20:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.004 = 6.4 BTC [-] [20:20]
mircea_popescu and they have a short fund. [20:20]
topace mircea_popescu: theres an option to be listed on the official paperwork even if you own the shares through havelock [20:20]
mircea_popescu interesting stuff anyway. [20:20]
mircea_popescu topace o there you are. hey, did you announce here and i missed it ? [20:21]
topace no i ddint really announce it :p [20:21]
unbalanced They are trying to do this in a way that won't get them shut down. I hope they do well and grow the market. [20:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4034 @ 0.004 = 16.136 BTC [-] [20:21]
topace i figured the announcements should be up to virtex themselves :p [20:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3898 = 3.898 BTC [-] [20:22]
mircea_popescu topace well why not ? hehe nah. you're their ipo manager, you announce. [20:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 510 @ 0.3898 = 198.798 BTC [-] [20:22]
ThickAsThieves scamz! [20:22]
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unbalanced kakobrekla, is that a private algo or something others could play with? [20:23]
mircea_popescu unbalanced yeah, well... interesting device. we still don't have enough on how exactly it'd play out to know. [20:23]
mircea_popescu (by we i mean my legal doods) [20:23]
unbalanced where by "others" I mean "me" [20:24]
unbalanced heh [20:24]
mircea_popescu lol [20:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3898 = 1.1694 BTC [-] [20:24]
unbalanced I thought you were supralegal [20:24]
kakobrekla unbalanced https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141127.0 < - i didnt update the thread since there was no interest but i can give you the last data i have [20:24]
mircea_popescu unbalanced i think so. sometimes people go "no clue" tho. [20:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.44001 = 2.2001 BTC [-] [20:25]
unbalanced kako you are blowing my mind [20:25]
kakobrekla :p [20:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 250 @ 0.09 = 22.5 BTC [-] [20:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 40 @ 0.3898 = 15.592 BTC [-] [20:25]
mircea_popescu topace so what's this song and dance with shares could be more expensive than ipo warning thing ? [20:25]
mircea_popescu i can't make sense of it. [20:25]
ThickAsThieves people are flipping the shares [20:26]
mircea_popescu ;;rate bingoboingo 1 My Rugatu payment agent [20:26]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. [20:26]
mircea_popescu bah [20:26]
mircea_popescu ;;eauth mircea_popescu [20:27]
gribble Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 [20:27]
unbalanced I think on past IPOs people bought at the bid/ask and didn't see that there were IPO shares left. [20:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 250 @ 0.09 = 22.5 BTC [-] [20:27]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves nothing wrong with that neh ? [20:27]
ThickAsThieves not at all [20:27]
mircea_popescu unbalanced where are these shares left ? not in the book ? [20:27]
ThickAsThieves one of my favorite ways to make money :) [20:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 75 @ 0.3898 = 29.235 BTC [-] [20:27]
mircea_popescu ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2a1e8519990917366b20fe81156f46768171939a91c1731376640a70 [20:27]
gribble Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans;#bitcoin-dev [20:27]
unbalanced He's just giving dimwits like me a fighting chance. [20:27]
ThickAsThieves it seems though, [20:27]
ThickAsThieves that this method helps the flippers [20:27]
mircea_popescu ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2a1e8519990917366b20fe81156f46768171939a91c1731376640a70 [20:27]
gribble You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 [20:27]
mircea_popescu ;;rate bingoboingo 1 My Rugatu payment agent [20:28]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bingoboingo has been recorded. [20:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4400001 = 0.88 BTC [-] [20:28]
kakobrekla unbalanced i think this was the last chart i made http://shrani.si/f/36/x3/1yQoSMpP/critticall.png [20:28]
kakobrekla unbalanced but the evolution did continiue [20:28]
mircea_popescu unbalanced i don't get it tho. if there's ipo shares left they're in the book at ipo price. you can't buy past them. [20:28]
mircea_popescu if they're not in the book then there's not any elft and so... market price [20:28]
mircea_popescu what am i missing here [20:28]
* MJR_ is not currently listening to music. [20:29]
ThickAsThieves the ipo shares are not on the main havelock page for the asset [20:29]
MJR_ lies [20:29]
mircea_popescu uh [20:29]
unbalanced https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=VTX [20:29]
mircea_popescu why not ?! [20:29]
unbalanced The IPO is a separate buy page [20:29]
ThickAsThieves so they can trick noobs obv [20:29]
unbalanced kakobrekla, is the scale on the chart in thousands on the left? [20:30]
kakobrekla 1000 = 10 [20:30]
kakobrekla the first top is first bubble we had taht went to 30 [20:30]
mircea_popescu jesus. [20:30]
mircea_popescu topace why ?! [20:30]
kakobrekla but this is per difficulty [20:30]
kakobrekla so its not showing 30 as top [20:30]
ThickAsThieves whats funnier is that the flippers should be posting trickier asks [20:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3851 = 1.1553 BTC [-] [20:31]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [20:31]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.21001, Best ask: 73.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18999, Last trade: 73.40000, 24 hour volume: 97553.15321209, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 67.23243 [20:31]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [20:31]
gribble 0.397807 seconds [20:31]
topace why is it not just on the open market? [20:31]
ThickAsThieves yeah [20:32]
topace becuase the system can do things like limit the number of shares per user [20:32]
topace when its on the IPO [20:32]
topace vs the open market [20:32]
ThickAsThieves why? [20:32]
topace and also, the ipo price changes [20:32]
mircea_popescu limit the shares per user ?! why the heck ? [20:32]
topace to match $CAD valuation [20:32]
ThickAsThieves canadian finance is alien [20:32]
topace mircea_popescu: VTX doesnt limit it [20:32]
topace but its possible for hte systme to [20:32]
mircea_popescu topace i would say this is kludge. keep a single book rather than fragment it. [20:33]
topace when i luanched the sdice passthru i limited it in the public offerings [20:33]
topace meh [20:33]
ThickAsThieves why limits thi? [20:33]
ThickAsThieves tho [20:33]
topace i cant argue this now, im late [20:33]
topace im suppose dto leave half an hour ago [20:33]
mircea_popescu so talk to you later [20:33]
topace back on monday [20:33]
mircea_popescu assets never sleeps and never goes anywhere [20:33]
MJR_ :) [20:33]
MJR_ Wall Street 2: Money never sleeps [20:33]
ThickAsThieves i think i get about 30% less sleep now that i bitcoin [20:34]
smickles is it just me, or satoshidice.com borked [20:34]
mircea_popescu MJR_ ya but here it sleeps less. [20:34]
MJR_ lol [20:34]
mircea_popescu meanwhile oldies but rather goldies : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/viata-grea-a-blogerului-incepator/ [20:34]
MJR_ well... [20:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.3851 = 38.51 BTC [-] [20:34]
MJR_ s.dice has great prospects I think [20:34]
mircea_popescu smickles i see it [20:34]
smickles it only partially loads for me, heavy traffic maybe? [20:35]
MJR_ cuz of great market share [20:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3851 BTC [-] [20:35]
MJR_ ah im an idiot [20:35]
* MJR_ thought you meant the company smickles [20:35]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3851 = 3.851 BTC [-] [20:36]
mircea_popescu so bfl is fading into shoutbox obscurity [20:36]
mod6 MJR_: blue horseshoe loves Anacott Steel [20:38]
MJR_ mod6: lol [20:38]
mod6 ;) [20:38]
MJR_ I was trading quotes with coworkers yesterday [20:38]
MJR_ The Notorious BIG said it best: "Either you're slingin' crack-rock, or you've got a wicked jump-shot." Nobody wants to work for it anymore. There's no honor in taking that after school job at Mickey Dee's, honor's in the dollar, kid. So I went the white boy way of slinging crack-rock: I became a stock broker. [20:40]
MJR_ my fave [20:40]
mod6 haha [20:40]
MJR_ boiler room is a classic [20:40]
mod6 oh yeah. thats a good one too. [20:42]
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MJR_ They say money can't buy happiness? Look at the fucking smile on my face. Ear to ear, baby. [20:43]
MJR_ Ben affleks finest work was that scene I think [20:44]
mod6 lol yeah! [20:44]
unbalanced_backt Come on... not Reindeer Games? [20:44]
MJR_ hahaha [20:44]
unbalanced_backt I bet he wishes he could erase that. [20:44]
unbalanced_backt frak [20:44]
MJR_ he pulls off douche so easily [20:44]
mod6 what about gilly or whatever the fuck [20:44]
mod6 he probably wants to delete that one [20:45]
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MJR_ lol there were a bunch of bad ones... [20:45]
unbalanced_away Jersey Girl wasn't that bad IIRC [20:45]
MJR_ lol [20:45]
MJR_ that scene was basically a rip off of Alex Baldwin in glengarry glen Ross [20:45]
unbalanced_away ayite, back to work... good luck all [20:46]
mod6 c-ya [20:46]
MJR_ later [20:46]
mod6 yeah, i've had 5 cups of coffee, btc is > $70 and im /still/ workin like a slave [20:46]
mod6 this is wrong [20:46]
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mircea_popescu shut up and work it. [20:46]
MJR_ lol, I've never worked harder than when I got involved in bitcoin [20:47]
smickles mod6: turns out the right move woul've been to maxout my credit cards with cash advances and buy btc a few months ago [20:47]
deadweasel no shit [20:47]
deadweasel hindsight [20:47]
MJR_ yeah [20:47]
mod6 smickles: its hard not to see how that would have paid off. [20:47]
MJR_ you could also have bankrupted [20:47]
deadweasel bingo! [20:47]
deadweasel you never know [20:47]
deadweasel still could be [20:47]
mod6 yeah ^^^ [20:47]
mircea_popescu Total 299084. this month mpoe bot is going over 300k contracts traded [20:47]
MJR_ yep [20:47]
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smickles ;;calc (40000/2)*73 [20:47]
gribble 1460000 [20:47]
smickles yup [20:47]
deadweasel unless you got your capital out already [20:47]
MJR_ mircea_popescu: nice! [20:48]
MJR_ im married to my sdice position [20:48]
mod6 wow > 300k! [20:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 115 @ 0.3898 = 44.827 BTC [+] [20:48]
mod6 O.O [20:48]
mircea_popescu i know right ?! [20:49]
mod6 *nod* [20:49]
mod6 thats incredible. [20:49]
mod6 i love it. [20:49]
mod6 mpex > * [20:49]
ThickAsThieves so whats the dividend projection? [20:49]
mircea_popescu prev record was january, 190k [20:49]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves there's never been a projection on s.mpoe divs [20:50]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.0099 = 0.495 BTC [+] [20:50]
ThickAsThieves i meant informally [20:50]
mircea_popescu yeah. [20:50]
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error4733 over 9000 [20:50]
ThickAsThieves napkin math or such [20:50]
smickles ya know, it's possible to calc it if you track what the bot is buying/selling for and the trade data [20:50]
smickles revenue, anyway [20:51]
mircea_popescu anywhere between -299k btc and + 299k btc fo sho [20:51]
ThickAsThieves is that a forward-looking statement? [20:51]
ThickAsThieves :) [20:51]
mircea_popescu lol not rly. [20:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.43000001 = 0.86 BTC [-] [20:52]
mircea_popescu mathematica necesitatis [20:52]
smickles well, damn, ofc i lost MY less than 1 bet [20:52]
mircea_popescu lol copycaty [20:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+] [20:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.416 = 2.08 BTC [-] [20:53]
tiberiusiv whats the forwrad looking statement for bbet [20:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.3898 = 5.4572 BTC [+] [20:53]
smickles ya know, i'd be selling satoshi dice dice at satoshidicedice.com right now if evoorhees had given me anything more than an informal statement that he wouldn't sue me for using the brand [20:53]
mircea_popescu > 20 in fees and > 10 btc in confiscations from wannabe scalpers that failed at it. [20:53]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 38 @ 0.3898 = 14.8124 BTC [+] [20:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3898 = 0.7796 BTC [+] [20:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3898 BTC [+] [20:54]
mircea_popescu smickles what are you so worried about anyway [20:54]
mircea_popescu if he gets pissy you share revenue [20:54]
deadweasel I placed some bets, but I forgot on what. I guess I could scrape your site for the few of my btc addy. [20:54]
deadweasel to find it... damn drunken bets. [20:55]
mircea_popescu just put your addy into the searchbox deadweasel [20:55]
MJR_ what do you mean selling sdice on satoshidice.com? [20:55]
deadweasel lol, thx [20:55]
smickles MJR_: satoshidicedice.com [20:55]
MJR_ lol cool [20:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 256 @ 0.3898 = 99.7888 BTC [+] [20:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 76 @ 0.3898 = 29.6248 BTC [+] [20:56]
smickles mircea_popescu: i'm weary about entering into a business with a guy who won't put anything in writing ever [20:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.3898 = 38.98 BTC [+] [20:56]
MJR_ the prospectus? [20:56]
smickles MJR_: no, i mean just in the dice situation [20:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3898 = 0.7796 BTC [+] [20:57]
smickles i was going to have dice manufacured and sell them and he said it was ok, and that if they looked good he'd advertise them. but would not have any form of that deal in writing [20:57]
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mircea_popescu smickles so ? [20:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3898 = 0.7796 BTC [+] [20:58]
deadweasel fuck me, mp, you made my day. [20:58]
deadweasel thank god for drunken bets [20:58]
mircea_popescu lol. talk to kakobrekla [20:58]
mircea_popescu tho last time i got the cake :D [20:58]
deadweasel haha, that's gamblin' for ya [20:58]
smickles so i don't want to do something that puts me in such a vulnerable position [20:58]
deadweasel so don't bend over [20:58]
deadweasel soap on a rope [20:58]
MJR_ I was wondering what the process is for ssd certification? [20:59]
MJR_ mircea_popescu: [20:59]
mircea_popescu smickles i don't follow. you outlay what, 50 btc for printing dice on his promise that he'll adverise them if he likes them. [20:59]
Namworld S.DICE is kinda cheap lately [20:59]
mircea_popescu what's the concept, that instead he sues you ? [20:59]
MJR_ it really is [20:59]
mircea_popescu MJR_ you asking me about ssd ?! why ? [20:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.3898 = 8.9654 BTC [+] [20:59]
MJR_ slightly smoking dragon [21:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.416 = 2.08 BTC [-] [21:00]
MJR_ I think it has become the de facto standard of excellence [21:00]
mircea_popescu hahaha [21:00]
mircea_popescu that's hard to get, man. [21:00]
MJR_ so what body grants this status? [21:00]
MJR_ is it nomination? application? [21:00]
mircea_popescu you gotta pass the bridge o' death [21:00]
MJR_ lol [21:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-] [21:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.07 = 2.14 BTC [-] [21:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.01 = 4.04 BTC [-] [21:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 14 @ 1.001 = 14.014 BTC [-] [21:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3898 = 0.7796 BTC [+] [21:01]
smickles mircea_popescu: well, he implied that he either wasn't the sole owner of sdice (outside of S.DICE) or that he would soon become only a part owner and that his word would not transfer to these other owners [21:01]
MJR_ seriously, though...I trust a ssd more than Moody's [21:01]
smickles at the least, i saw it as a bad risk to lay down money on production and then get a c&d [21:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3898 = 1.949 BTC [+] [21:02]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [21:02]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.50001, Best ask: 72.71000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20999, Last trade: 72.19800, 24 hour volume: 97249.46875243, 24 hour low: 63.00000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 67.41164 [21:02]
mircea_popescu smickles unless you lay down A LOT of money it seems maybe exaggerated. [21:02]
Diablo-D3 are you fucking kidding me? [21:02]
MJR_ I don't think that they would care much [21:02]
mircea_popescu MJR_ even if they did care, they'd split revenue somehow [21:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 54 @ 0.3898 = 21.0492 BTC [+] [21:03]
MJR_ I doubt it would really matter compared to their revenue [21:03]
MJR_ yeah... [21:03]
smickles ah well, one of you do it then. i'm on to other things [21:03]
MJR_ worst case revenue split [21:03]
mircea_popescu maybe the guy with the bitcoin buttons'd be interested [21:03]
MJR_ I understand the reticence smickles [21:03]
MJR_ it right now is possible to lean on the community aspects of the bitcoin world [21:04]
Namworld Just put a withdrawal request in [21:04]
MJR_ and maybe we shouldn't so much [21:04]
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MJR_ Namworld: love the bonds [21:04]
smickles i mean, all i was asking for was a 'paper copy' of what he was saying [21:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.3898 = 1.5592 BTC [+] [21:04]
MJR_ pgp signed? [21:05]
smickles sure [21:05]
Namworld aye, too bad I can't sell more. [21:05]
MJR_ you can't? [21:05]
Namworld I'll be doing buybacks even [21:05]
MJR_ I wish they had an automatic rebuy option [21:05]
MJR_ to reinvest income back in [21:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.3898 = 7.0164 BTC [+] [21:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3898 = 3.1184 BTC [+] [21:06]
smickles mircea_popescu: this also happened that day that he had trouble authing with gribble, so, given that he wasn't willing to sign anything, i had a small bit of doubt that i was even talking with the real evoorhees [21:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3898 = 3.1184 BTC [+] [21:06]
mod6 oh i remember that day. [21:07]
mod6 we had faux ev on here [21:07]
MJR_ smickles: well nothing ventured, nothing lost [21:07]
smickles heh, i ended up using the money to make an extra payment on my wife's car [21:08]
mod6 You miss 100% of the shots you don't take -- Wayne Gretzky [21:08]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3898 = 3.898 BTC [+] [21:08]
mircea_popescu ah [21:08]
mircea_popescu i think the anme is nickserv'd tho [21:08]
MJR_ probably [21:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3898 = 1.949 BTC [+] [21:09]
MJR_ double auth [21:09]
smickles as if i know how good a pw he has [21:09]
MJR_ hehehe [21:09]
MJR_ those guys are so busy it doesn't seem like sdice is the main thing on their mind [21:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.85896 = 17.1792 BTC [-] [21:11]
MJR_ see how many interviews he's doing...almost never really talks about sdice [21:11]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [21:11]
gribble 67.54 [21:11]
MJR_ x-41/x=50 [21:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.108999 = 0.654 BTC [+] [21:11]
MJR_ oops= .50 [21:11]
smickles you sunk my battleship in 1 dimention? [21:12]
smickles sion -_- [21:12]
MJR_ one dimensional battleship... [21:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01001 BTC [-] [21:12]
ThickAsThieves sdice is his dirty little secret that pays for his bitcoin jesus work [21:12]
MJR_ hehehe [21:13]
MJR_ I don't see it as dirty [21:13]
ThickAsThieves youd ont [21:13]
MJR_ think bitcoin gambling is more honest [21:13]
ThickAsThieves but gambling is not legal remember [21:13]
MJR_ ah true [21:13]
smickles ;;ticker --high [21:13]
gribble 74.90000 [21:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.4111 = 2.8777 BTC [-] [21:14]
MJR_ I find it hilarious that I can say on average you will always lose and people say ok [21:14]
ThickAsThieves you cant be a gangster and a preacher at the same time [21:14]
MJR_ ThickAsThieves: I think you can [21:14]
ThickAsThieves then i will! [21:14]
MJR_ yes! go forth, be fruitful [21:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3898 = 0.7796 BTC [+] [21:14]
MJR_ as soon as my business gets our slightly smoking dragon certification [21:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3897 = 3.1176 BTC [-] [21:15]
MJR_ I joke about that, but seriously...mpex has street cred and trust [21:15]
MJR_ you could rate things (you are implicitly doing that by allowing people to list here) [21:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3897 BTC [-] [21:17]
mircea_popescu MJR_ list where ? [21:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.0007304 = 4.0537 BTC [-] [21:17]
mircea_popescu and i do rate things, if you follow me here or the girl on the forum you get an idea [21:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.401 BTC [-] [21:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4001 = 1.2003 BTC [-] [21:18]
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Josh_Rossi ;;bc,prc [21:19]
gribble Error: "bc,prc" is not a valid command. [21:19]
deadweasel MJR_: mpex has your trust and cred. [21:19]
Josh_Rossi yes true [21:20]
Josh_Rossi but i don't think anyone can say anything bad about it [21:20]
deadweasel don't mean shit, the whole game could end tomorrow. [21:20]
deadweasel never forget [21:20]
Josh_Rossi yeah [21:20]
Josh_Rossi of course [21:20]
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deadweasel it's power struggle that has yet to be settled and MPEX could be a casualty. [21:21]
Josh_Rossi whats that command for prc? [21:21]
deadweasel or the victor [21:21]
deadweasel who knows [21:21]
Josh_Rossi i wouldn't phrase quite so dramatically [21:21]
Josh_Rossi but yeah [21:21]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [21:21]
gribble 67.66 [21:21]
Josh_Rossi thanks smickles [21:21]
mircea_popescu ya well... [21:22]
jcpham mircea_popescu mpex has "street cred" [21:22]
jcpham i just read it on the internet [21:22]
mircea_popescu dun be messin' up ma streets. [21:23]
deadweasel mp fux you up [21:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18799 BTC [+] [21:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.349 BTC [+] [21:25]
deadweasel Josh_Rossi: I am a drama queen, it's something I've been working on for a few years. I was raised by women. [21:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3897 = 1.9485 BTC [-] [21:26]
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Namworld Thank you mircea [21:26]
mircea_popescu yee [21:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 150 @ 0.3897 = 58.455 BTC [-] [21:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 98 @ 0.3897 = 38.1906 BTC [-] [21:29]
Josh_Rossi deadweasel: lol, no worries [21:29]
Josh_Rossi i am working on an executive summary and i am going to phrase that scenario as "regulatory force majeur" [21:30]
Josh_Rossi because i don't think necessarily that it matters what risks you are taking as long as you are aware you are taking them and honest about them [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2110 @ 0.0007304 = 1.5411 BTC [-] [21:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00072802 = 2.2569 BTC [-] [21:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1590 @ 0.00071536 = 1.1374 BTC [-] [21:31]
Josh_Rossi its like crosswalks [21:33]
Josh_Rossi they say you are twice as likely to be hit by a car in a crosswalk vs jaywalking [21:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 80 @ 0.3927 = 31.416 BTC [+] [21:33]
pigeons looks like VTX/cavirtex is selling well [21:34]
deadweasel you think we'll hit $100/BTC this month? [21:34]
mircea_popescu possibly. [21:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3927 = 19.635 BTC [+] [21:36]
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Josh_Rossi ;;ident [21:38]
gribble You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX [21:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.4001 = 2.4006 BTC [-] [21:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.3927 = 2.3562 BTC [+] [21:44]
jurov so where are my C1000N, C2000N and C5000Ns? [21:44]
Josh_Rossi i was thinking about the interesting possibilities for insurance and such [21:44]
mircea_popescu jurov srsly. [21:44]
Josh_Rossi lol [21:45]
dub ;;ticker [21:45]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.84382, Best ask: 72.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.35617, Last trade: 72.19999, 24 hour volume: 102630.95374871, 24 hour low: 63.00000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 67.73641 [21:45]
Josh_Rossi i might take some C1000N [21:45]
mircea_popescu i think ima hold back issuing new lines till opex [21:46]
mircea_popescu (a week away by now) [21:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3987 = 0.7974 BTC [+] [21:47]
Josh_Rossi those should be fun [21:47]
Josh_Rossi but would i need access to euros? [21:47]
toffoo opex? [21:47]
Josh_Rossi i know they are denominated in btc [21:48]
Josh_Rossi but they are delivarables if i remember correctly? [21:48]
mircea_popescu option expiration [21:48]
Josh_Rossi oh lol thought that was something different [21:48]
mircea_popescu Josh_Rossi huh ? [21:48]
* Josh_Rossi is now known as mjr_ [21:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3987 = 9.9675 BTC [+] [21:49]
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mjr_ hi [21:49]
* mjr_ is now known as Josh_Rossi [21:49]
Josh_Rossi same person [21:50]
jurov ;;ident Josh_Rossi [21:50]
gribble Nick 'Josh_Rossi', with hostmask 'Josh_Rossi!Josh_Rossi@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX [21:50]
jurov ;;ident mjr_ [21:50]
gribble Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. [21:50]
* Josh_Rossi is now known as mjr_ [21:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00985 = 0.0985 BTC [-] [21:50]
mjr_ ;;IDENT [21:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009843 = 0.0197 BTC [-] [21:50]
gribble You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX [21:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009843 = 0.0984 BTC [-] [21:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 30 @ 0.009842 = 0.2953 BTC [-] [21:50]
mjr_ i wish i could link both to the same one [21:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4367 @ 0.00073058 = 3.1904 BTC [+] [21:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00073461 = 5.2157 BTC [+] [21:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7361 @ 0.00073552 = 5.4142 BTC [+] [21:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8672 @ 0.00073756 = 6.3961 BTC [+] [21:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.108999 BTC [+] [21:51]
mjr_ I figured that I would use my real name if i have to sign things and build up WoT [21:51]
mjr_ but for average chats i prefer this handle [21:51]
mircea_popescu this is not a good idea. [21:53]
mircea_popescu splitting your name, nobody will know who the fuck josh is [21:53]
jurov you can use group with nickserv, i think gribble will pick it up? [21:53]
mjr_ yeah [21:53]
mjr_ it won't [21:53]
jcpham i'm josh [21:53]
* jurov is now known as billg [21:53]
jcpham there can be only one [21:53]
mjr_ me too [21:53]
billg now i'm all bsnsss [21:53]
deadweasel i'm josh [21:53]
mjr_ hehehe [21:53]
jcpham too bad for you [21:53]
jcpham i was here first [21:53]
mjr_ true [21:53]
mjr_ but we aren't the only two josh's in the world [21:53]
deadweasel 3 [21:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3987 BTC [+] [21:54]
jcpham ok you can be josh too i guess [21:54]
mod6 yeah, i'd say stick with mjr_ or whatever. cause i thought Josh_Rossi was a newb [21:54]
jcpham BFL has a josh [21:54]
mjr_ hehehe [21:54]
mircea_popescu everyone in their 20s is named josh [21:54]
deadweasel no, i resign [21:54]
mod6 :) [21:54]
mircea_popescu it's like ridiculous by now [21:54]
jcpham let's make him change his name [21:54]
deadweasel it was never my name [21:54]
mjr_ but if i were to sign a statement [21:54]
deadweasel do it! you must pay him btc for it [21:54]
billg be cool. call ur joshua [21:54]
mjr_ and i needed it tied to my government identity [21:54]
deadweasel name him MPEX the minor [21:54]
jcpham oh joshua gets me moist [21:54]
jcpham watch out [21:54]
mircea_popescu watch out he pop ham [21:54]
mjr_ lol also it is pretty easy for me to prove that i'm me [21:55]
jcpham obviously i'm hiding [21:55]
mjr_ ;;ident [21:55]
gribble You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX [21:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.3987 = 2.7909 BTC [+] [21:55]
mjr_ its weird though, i was inspired to use my real name by mircea_popescu [21:55]
deadweasel ah, time to clock out. later all, do great things while I'm gone. [21:55]
mjr_ but it feels to weird always showing that [21:55]
mjr_ also i got pissed off cuz some other guy who got here later than me registered mjr [21:56]
smickles ;;lucky smickles [21:56]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=proper%20smickles [21:56]
smickles :D [21:56]
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mjr_ lol cool nick [21:57]
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mjr_ ;;lucky mjr_ [21:57]
gribble http://www.mjrtheatres.com/ [21:57]
mjr_ hahaha [21:57]
billg ;;ud smickle [21:57]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smickle | Smickle. a clean alternative to the word (shit). aww come on! that's bull smickle. buy smickle mugs & shirts · bullshit shit baloney false unbelievable by Esilentone ... [21:57]
jcpham smickles IS the best [21:57]
jcpham by far [21:57]
smickles think is, i had the nick before the slang existed [21:57]
billg sry smickles [21:57]
smickles *thing [21:57]
billg no shit [21:57]
jcpham i hope it is a family name [21:57]
jcpham send the family member that link to ud [21:58]
mjr_ billg: did you mean "no smickles" [21:58]
smickles hah, guess what the second link is on a google for smickles [21:58]
billg see the full page. there's 2. and 3. meaning, even more hilarious [21:58]
mjr_ hehehe [21:58]
Namworld idk why S.DICE is so low. Seems like it's doing pretty well. Month is just a bit lower... [21:59]
jcpham i like the third link you SEO genius [21:59]
Namworld I've been buying some at 0.004 [21:59]
mjr_ Namworld: I am thinking of doubling down on it [21:59]
mjr_ it just depends...i really love a revenue stream in bitcoins [21:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.001 = 3.003 BTC [-] [22:00]
mjr_ hence MPOE and SDICE [22:00]
mjr_ also BTCBOND [22:00]
Namworld BTCBOND doesn't pay much [22:00]
Namworld tho [22:00]
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mjr_ yeah, but i like to be diversified [22:00]
jborkl you could make a smickle me elmo that pissed himself [22:00]
mjr_ also i lend money out on bitfinex so i always have dollars too [22:00]
mjr_ so it is a partially hedged position [22:01]
jurov oh and some lucky guy made 0.69 btc today in coinbr affiliate credit.. wasn't that you? [22:01]
mjr_ but options have treated me the best so far [22:01]
mjr_ that would be me [22:01]
mjr_ thank you so much [22:01]
mjr_ it was a great birthday present [22:01]
mjr_ ;) [22:01]
mjr_ i need to start opening more accounts for you [22:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3904 = 1.952 BTC [-] [22:02]
mjr_ is there a good link to see an estimate for divs for sdice? [22:02]
Namworld yes [22:02]
dub I thought my .67 was pretty good [22:02]
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Namworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1654405#msg1654405 [22:03]
tiberiusiv if you noticed transactions per day went from 70k to 45k [22:03]
Namworld You see S.DICE analysis [22:03]
tiberiusiv and that was from satoshi dice going down [22:03]
Namworld It was down? [22:03]
mjr_ yeah profits are still good [22:04]
mjr_ i have to stick to my guns, i think the markets are wrong on this one [22:05]
mjr_ though its possible that they just found better investments, higher yield etc...its a pretty thin market really [22:05]
Namworld hmm [22:06]
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jurov ;;bc,convert eur [22:07]
gribble 1 BTC = 73.25000 U.S. dollars = 56.8269977 Euros [22:07]
mjr_ the only problem is that each share will cost me more in dollars if i choose to put more in now [22:07]
mjr_ i wish i was more fully in the btc economy [22:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3904 BTC [-] [22:08]
jurov lol so bratislava region has 7th highest Regional GDP per capita in the EU27? dunno why [22:10]
jurov more than prague/vienna/stockholm? [22:10]
mjr_ where is bratislava? [22:10]
jurov you don;t want to know [22:11]
jurov hostel filmed there [22:11]
mjr_ seems cool [22:11]
awkorama hostel was actually filmed in czech republic [22:11]
mjr_ don't know enough about sloavakia [22:11]
awkorama it was set in bratislava [22:11]
mjr_ slovakia [22:12]
mjr_ ;;calc 69188.35120444 * 70 [22:13]
gribble 4843184.58431 [22:13]
mjr_ 4 million? [22:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.3904 = 39.04 BTC [-] [22:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.109 = 0.327 BTC [+] [22:16]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 103 @ 0.3862 = 39.7786 BTC [-] [22:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 33 @ 0.3862 = 12.7446 BTC [-] [22:19]
smickles anyone want to trade some mpexbtc for some mtgoxbtc? [22:21]
smickles ;;sell 5 mpexbtc @ 5 mtgoxbtc [22:21]
gribble Order id 14165 created. [22:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3862 = 3.862 BTC [-] [22:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3862 = 19.31 BTC [-] [22:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.3862 = 2.3172 BTC [-] [22:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750N] 16 @ 0.24771283 = 3.9634 BTC [-] [22:23]
smickles ;;calc 16/1.2477 [22:24]
gribble 12.8235954156 [22:24]
smickles ;;calc 75/1.2477 [22:24]
gribble 60.1106035105 [22:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 51 @ 0.3862 = 19.6962 BTC [-] [22:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3862 = 1.1586 BTC [-] [22:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 30 @ 0.3862 = 11.586 BTC [-] [22:27]
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tiberiusiv jurov: id trust those GDP per capita numbers with a grain of salt [22:28]
jurov yea. dunno why they publish them then (and moreover, 2 years late) [22:29]
tiberiusiv mississipi has a gdp per capita of germany or some shit [22:30]
tiberiusiv but if you visit the 2 its like night and day lol [22:30]
jurov same with bratislava and vienna [22:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 307 @ 0.3862 = 118.5634 BTC [-] [22:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3862 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [22:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [+] [22:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 487 @ 0.3862 = 188.0794 BTC [-] [22:35]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 116 @ 0.3862 = 44.7992 BTC [-] [22:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.3862 = 11.9722 BTC [-] [22:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00499997 BTC [+] [22:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.8589 = 10.3068 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 856 @ 0.00071536 = 0.6123 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8589 BTC [-] [22:41]
smickles ;;rate jborkl 1 sent first :) [22:42]
gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. [22:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.004 = 0.008 BTC [+] [22:42]
smickles ;;rate jborkl_ 1 sent first :) [22:42]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jborkl_ has been recorded. [22:42]
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jborkl smickles in the mpexgui, a MTGOX last really small at the top would be cool [22:45]
smickles jborkl: I'll add that to the list, probably next thing i do since it'd be very easy [22:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3862 BTC [-] [22:46]
jborkl ok, cool thanks [22:47]
Namworld I paid for the MPEx GUI [22:47]
Namworld I hope we get a windows exe soon [22:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 36 @ 0.3862 = 13.9032 BTC [-] [22:48]
smickles Namworld: It's part of the plan, should come after I code in the full mpex command list [22:49]
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smickles Namworld: also, thanks :) [22:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3862 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [22:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.3862 = 3.4758 BTC [-] [22:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3862 = 3.862 BTC [-] [22:55]
tiberiusiv bitcoins starting to get bubbly [22:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 51 @ 0.3862 = 19.6962 BTC [-] [22:56]
tiberiusiv especially with people now accepting BTC for a house [22:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44999999 BTC [+] [22:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.3862 = 2.7034 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 152 @ 0.3862 = 58.7024 BTC [-] [22:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3862 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [23:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00070629 = 5.2265 BTC [-] [23:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.0007046 = 2.149 BTC [-] [23:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3862 = 1.931 BTC [-] [23:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3862 = 1.931 BTC [-] [23:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.3862 = 38.62 BTC [-] [23:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3862 BTC [-] [23:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3862 = 9.655 BTC [-] [23:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.3862 = 6.9516 BTC [-] [23:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3857 = 1.1571 BTC [-] [23:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00071498 = 3.1459 BTC [+] [23:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00320004 = 0.32 BTC [-] [23:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 618 @ 0.00320003 = 1.9776 BTC [-] [23:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3857 BTC [-] [23:25]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.3857 = 5.0141 BTC [-] [23:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3857 = 0.7714 BTC [-] [23:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 30 @ 0.3857 = 11.571 BTC [-] [23:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3857 BTC [-] [23:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3857 = 0.7714 BTC [-] [23:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3857 = 1.1571 BTC [-] [23:30]
jurov ;;bc,stats [23:30]
gribble Current Blocks: 227224 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 583 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 15 hours, 53 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6402126.77703 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.06668 [23:30]
* jborkl is now known as jborkl_ [23:31]
dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1654981#msg1654981 [23:31]
dub priceless [23:31]
* jborkl_ is now known as jborkl [23:31]
dub may need to keep records of shareholders in an illegal currency mining operation, for legal reasons [23:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.833001 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.833 = 9.163 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8325 = 1.665 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83211 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.8321 = 4.9926 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.832 = 14.976 BTC [-] [23:32]
* Chilca (~Chilca@c-67-164-89-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.3857 = 4.2427 BTC [-] [23:37]
* Bowjob (4b9d1e75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.157.30.117) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3857 = 3.857 BTC [-] [23:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.3857 = 5.0141 BTC [-] [23:42]
* j303 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 125 @ 0.3857 = 48.2125 BTC [-] [23:42]
* Chilca has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3857 = 1.9285 BTC [-] [23:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3857 = 1.9285 BTC [-] [23:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3857 = 9.6425 BTC [-] [23:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [23:44]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 6398438.35799 based on data since last change | 7251846.01035 based on data for last three days [23:44]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [+] [23:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 26 @ 0.386 = 10.036 BTC [+] [23:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.386 = 19.3 BTC [+] [23:47]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-] [23:51]
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ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [23:54]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.56962, Best ask: 72.97003, Bid-ask spread: 0.40041, Last trade: 72.56962, 24 hour volume: 96840.08022444, 24 hour low: 63.00000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 68.35320 [23:54]
Bowjob new wealthy elite [23:55]
kakobrekla are you going to be repeating that all the way to 100k per? [23:55]
Bowjob yeap [23:56]
* kakobrekla starts to code 'bannable phrases' module for assbot [23:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.386 BTC [+] [23:58]
dub low thresholds for CRASH! RALLY! TANKING! plox [23:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44899 BTC [-] [23:59]
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