Forum logs for 20 May 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02 = 0.04 BTC [-] [00:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+] [00:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+] [00:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.1699 = 8.6796 BTC [+] [00:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1699 BTC [+] [00:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.1699 = 10.8495 BTC [+] [00:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.16 = 4.32 BTC [-] [00:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.000697 BTC [-] [00:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.020444 = 0.1022 BTC [+] [00:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.100002 BTC [-] [00:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.100001 BTC [-] [00:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 110 @ 2.1 = 231 BTC [-] [00:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16 BTC [+] [00:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.020749 = 0.2075 BTC [+] [00:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 95 @ 0.02075 = 1.9713 BTC [+] [00:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 95 @ 0.020852 = 1.9809 BTC [+] [00:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16 BTC [+] [00:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0209 = 0.5225 BTC [+] [00:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.020985 = 0.7135 BTC [+] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1639 @ 0.00070121 = 1.1493 BTC [-] [00:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00070043 = 13.098 BTC [-] [00:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.020447 = 0.2045 BTC [-] [00:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2711 @ 0.00070043 = 1.8989 BTC [-] [00:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.020984 BTC [+] [00:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.196 BTC [-] [00:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1976 = 0.5928 BTC [+] [00:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 7 @ 0.198 = 1.386 BTC [+] [00:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.020447 = 0.184 BTC [-] [00:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.020446 = 0.4089 BTC [-] [00:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.100001 BTC [-] [00:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.1 = 21 BTC [-] [00:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1 BTC [-] [00:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2354 BTC [-] [00:34]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.020444 BTC [-] [00:37]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.210011 BTC [-] [00:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02001 = 0.1001 BTC [-] [00:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02001 BTC [-] [01:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02 BTC [-] [01:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.025 BTC [-] [01:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.025 BTC [-] [01:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.020967 = 0.2097 BTC [+] [01:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.234999 BTC [+] [01:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.020968 = 0.3565 BTC [+] [01:11]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.020101 = 0.1608 BTC [-] [01:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 85 @ 0.0201 = 1.7085 BTC [-] [01:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.02 = 0.18 BTC [-] [01:32]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.148994 BTC [+] [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00070155 = 10.7337 BTC [+] [01:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070352 = 3.0399 BTC [+] [01:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00070374 = 3.378 BTC [+] [01:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 629 @ 0.00070374 = 0.4427 BTC [+] [01:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.14789 BTC [-] [01:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.149 BTC [+] [01:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.14787 BTC [-] [01:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.148752 BTC [+] [01:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.149 = 6.447 BTC [+] [01:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.149 = 8.596 BTC [+] [01:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.148512 = 10.7426 BTC [-] [01:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.15 = 6.45 BTC [+] [01:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.020478 = 0.2048 BTC [+] [01:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.020967 = 0.1677 BTC [+] [01:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 500 @ 0.020967 = 10.4835 BTC [+] [01:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.020968 = 0.6919 BTC [+] [01:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.020479 = 0.041 BTC [+] [01:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.020985 = 0.2099 BTC [+] [01:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.020984 = 0.1679 BTC [-] [01:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.020479 = 0.3072 BTC [+] [01:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 479 @ 0.021152 = 10.1318 BTC [+] [01:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.02049 = 0.6147 BTC [+] [01:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.021152 = 0.4442 BTC [+] [01:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 512 @ 0.021252 = 10.881 BTC [+] [01:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 500 @ 0.02133 = 10.665 BTC [+] [01:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 70 @ 0.021352 = 1.4946 BTC [+] [01:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.02094512 = 0.5236 BTC [+] [01:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02121 = 0.2121 BTC [-] [01:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.0214 = 1.284 BTC [+] [02:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.02094 = 0.6282 BTC [-] [02:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0214 BTC [+] [02:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02094512 = 0.0419 BTC [+] [02:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0214 BTC [+] [02:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02094512 = 2.0945 BTC [+] [02:06]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.15 = 4.3 BTC [+] [02:12]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.021396 = 0.3637 BTC [-] [02:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.020498 = 5.1245 BTC [-] [02:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.020479 = 0.4096 BTC [-] [02:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.0204 = 0.2448 BTC [-] [02:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02093982 BTC [+] [02:20]
savetheinternet inventing a time machine atm [02:22]
savetheinternet to stop myself from selling asicminer shares at ~1.3 [02:22]
inhies dude [02:23]
inhies dont sweat it [02:23]
inhies new favorite quote "nobody ever went broke taking a profit" [02:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.016739 = 0.0837 BTC [-] [02:24]
inhies on that note, i still have all my shares :p [02:24]
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ThickAsThieves nobody ever went broke selling for more than savetheinternet did [02:25]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [09:47]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.93086, Best ask: 122.78688, Bid-ask spread: 0.85602, Last trade: 121.89291, 24 hour volume: 24445.74160237, 24 hour low: 119.50000, 24 hour high: 124.50101, 24 hour vwap: 121.80684 [09:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.011001 BTC [-] [09:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.011 BTC [-] [09:47]
furuknap I updated my article on why Mining investments is always a bet that prices will drop. Added a new question: http://coin.furuknap.net/why-investing-in-mining-is-always-a-bet-that-prices-will-drop/ [09:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.0101 BTC [-] [09:47]
furuknap Can't really argue against math, but damn, people keep trying. [09:49]
mircea_popescu i don't think that's very well presented. [09:49]
furuknap What isn't? [09:50]
mircea_popescu while its true that for any purchase of mining hardware there's a price point where it becomes unprofitable, [09:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.49 = 3.92 BTC [+] [09:50]
mircea_popescu it's nevertheless not exactly true that buying gear is a bet on price dropping. [09:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+] [09:51]
furuknap The article shows that a dropping price always yields a much higher profit than mining. [09:51]
furuknap *than mining alone [09:51]
mircea_popescu let's put it this way : it's true that a slut is a much better catch than a priss on any blind dating sit down [09:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.021512 = 0.043 BTC [+] [09:52]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, it doesn't follow that people going on blind dates are betting on sluts. [09:52]
furuknap That's not the argument from the article either. In fact, it's the exact opposite, because you're bringing your own dame to the party :-) [09:53]
mircea_popescu o boy. [09:53]
furuknap Well, that's fine too, if you swing in that direction... [09:54]
furuknap :-) [09:54]
mircea_popescu is buying a cup of coffee in the morning a bet that fiat will collapse by noon ? [09:55]
furuknap If you can resell it at noon and fiat will rise again, yes. [09:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9347 @ 0.00069867 = 6.5305 BTC [+] [09:56]
mircea_popescu yeah well, that's the problem. [09:56]
furuknap Please elaborate. [09:57]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0215 = 0.1075 BTC [-] [09:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.021512 = 0.6023 BTC [+] [09:58]
mircea_popescu you've come up with an edge case and are phrasing the situation in terms of that edge case. [09:58]
mircea_popescu it's still an edge case. [09:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8373 @ 0.00069772 = 5.842 BTC [-] [09:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2792 @ 0.00069733 = 1.9469 BTC [-] [09:59]
furuknap You mean by using unrealistic numbers? The case presented is intended to simplify the scenario because it is easier to see when you don't need to argue with stuff like "well, my postage is cheap so selling yields more profit than that" etc. [09:59]
mircea_popescu no, i don't mean by using unrelisting numbers. [10:00]
furuknap Then I'm not following you. [10:01]
mircea_popescu yeah. [10:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.021512 = 2.1512 BTC [+] [10:04]
mircea_popescu is getting married a bet that your wife-to-be has an unknown uncle in argentina who will leave her a billion dollar inheritance ? [10:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0211 = 0.1055 BTC [-] [10:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.021 = 0.21 BTC [-] [10:05]
furuknap No? Definitely not sure I'm following you, unless you're talking about a wife being a commodity that can be resold at a lower price point and you have to pay to get her. [10:07]
mircea_popescu ok. inasmuch as getting married isn;t a bet on some contingent future event [10:07]
mircea_popescu buying mining gear isn't a bet on some contingent future event. [10:07]
furuknap That doesn't follow at all. Getting married is not an investment that can be resold. [10:08]
mircea_popescu that's an irrelevant difference. [10:08]
furuknap Mining equipment is such a commodity. In fact, that's why I used the currency trick in the first section. [10:09]
inhies but [10:09]
inhies hrm [10:09]
inhies you can prett ymuch promise that mining rewards will go down [10:09]
mircea_popescu i can't discern if your motivation is to understand what you did wrong or to show the world how clever you are. which is it ? [10:09]
furuknap I'm trying to understand what I did wrong, definitely. Talking about getting married as an investment doesn't do that. [10:10]
furuknap inhies: Mining isn't actually part of the scenario at all, but is elaborated in the questions at the end. [10:11]
mircea_popescu ok. any one thing, no matter what thing you pick, has some directly connected bits and some contingent bits. [10:11]
inhies furuknap: yea i see [10:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0208 = 0.208 BTC [-] [10:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0207 = 0.3105 BTC [-] [10:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 299 @ 0.0206 = 6.1594 BTC [-] [10:11]
mircea_popescu as far as mining is concerned, difficulty is directly connected. the btc/fiat rate is contingent. [10:11]
furuknap True. [10:11]
mircea_popescu okay. [10:11]
mircea_popescu presenting any definite activity in terms of it being "A bet on X arbitrary contingency" is a peculiar and not particularly useful manner of speech. [10:12]
inhies furuknap: i see teh problem [10:12]
mircea_popescu you could as well say that buying mining gear is a bet on the aliens showing up and wanting to buy it for infinite money. [10:12]
inhies your blog post is not well presented because mircea_popescu didn't write it [10:12]
furuknap Ah, you're arguing about the wording. That's fine. The article is trying to show that in the case of a price drop, a miner gains more coins by holding gear. Difficulty isn't relevant here because mining isn't part of the equation. [10:14]
mircea_popescu well, you seemed to interested to know why people are throwing a fit avbout it. [10:15]
furuknap Yup, I get what you're saying about that :-) [10:15]
mircea_popescu it's the wording. any one miner knows he's not betting on THAT. so you'll get a lot of misdirected protestation [10:15]
mircea_popescu othe rthan that, sure, btc going up actually hurts mining investments. [10:15]
mircea_popescu inasmuch as the mining rigs are fiat items pretty much. [10:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.0205 = 0.246 BTC [-] [10:18]
furuknap I see. I'm fine with using provocative wording to cause a reaction. People tend to remember (if not agree) with statements that strongly contradict their perception of reality. [10:18]
mircea_popescu this is true, and i do it all the time myself. [10:19]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, it helps if you contradict something germane to the issue rather than something random, i think. [10:19]
furuknap I'm not sure it is as random as that. I wrote the article based on a lot of questions asked on the Reddit forums and people universally tended to completely ignore the effect of price fluctuations of their gear. One miner had just bought around 50 GPUs and hadn't realized that when the price of LTC dropped, he actually earned more from just having that gear than from mining. [10:21]
mircea_popescu this may also be true. [10:23]
mircea_popescu truth of the matter is miners are so far away from any sort of financial understanding it's probably wasted effort to debate which of their dumbass notions should be contradicted etc. [10:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 512 @ 0.0205 = 10.496 BTC [-] [10:24]
mircea_popescu incidentally, this may interest : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/how-to-hedge-as-a-miner/ [10:24]
mircea_popescu it certainly wasn't well presented seeing how nobody got it at the time. [10:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00069571 = 14.7491 BTC [-] [10:24]
furuknap That is, and I'm not joking, the topic of my next article :-) Miners have a limited understanding of finance, just as financial people have a limited understanding of mining. When I talk to miners, they seem to argue that "just holding coins is really bad if the price drops while a miner can always resell his hardware" and not understanding anything about hedges in finance. [10:25]
mircea_popescu myeah. that's why i've made the futures etc. [10:26]
mircea_popescu really slow uptake. i guess that's what you get when something starts as a hobbist market : hobbists. [10:26]
furuknap When I talk to financial people, they tend to argue that "well, buying hardware is so much of a hassle, and what if it breaks? You're left with nothing!" not realizing how a miner with some hardwre competence can fix or replace hardware as easily as they purchase an option or future. [10:26]
mircea_popescu nobody's fixing much of asics, but anyway. [10:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0214 = 0.107 BTC [+] [10:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.059999 BTC [+] [10:29]
furuknap ASICs is a specialized piece of hardware that doesn't really have any resell value after a relatively short time. GPUs on the other hand has resale value, can be fixed, tuned, and easily replaced, and in some cases, it can even make sense to have a few spares laying around because unused cards don't depreciate much and thus isn't an asset cost. [10:29]
mircea_popescu sure. [10:31]
furuknap Have you considered adding futures and options on LTC too? [10:36]
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mircea_popescu not really. [10:36]
furuknap A lot of mining operations popping up on LTC now could greatly benefit from hedging against price fluctuations. A fund that does LTC mining combined with a sound hedging strategy could really make a killing. [10:38]
mircea_popescu i'm a monomaniac sort of guy. i idle in one irc channel only. i handle one cryptocurrency only. [10:39]
mircea_popescu if i ever list ltc it will be because i'm moving off btc. [10:39]
furuknap I understand. Maybe someone else will jump on it, then :-) [10:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.111 BTC [+] [10:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1344 BTC [+] [10:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.13483 BTC [+] [10:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 2.13484 = 27.7529 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.139491 = 6.4185 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.146 = 6.438 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.146 = 10.73 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.1485 = 6.4455 BTC [+] [10:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 2.15 = 19.35 BTC [+] [10:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16999 BTC [+] [10:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.16999 = 10.85 BTC [+] [10:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1795 BTC [+] [10:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.1795 = 10.8975 BTC [+] [10:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.02085 = 0.1668 BTC [+] [10:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.1798 = 10.899 BTC [+] [10:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 2.1798 = 23.9778 BTC [+] [10:45]
furuknap Geez-us. [10:46]
inhies to the moon! [10:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 2.1799 = 50.1377 BTC [+] [10:46]
furuknap This isn't going to end well... [10:46]
inhies noep [10:46]
inhies lol [10:46]
inhies lots of auctions [10:47]
inhies people want out of the bubble now [10:47]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.1799 = 21.799 BTC [+] [10:48]
furuknap I hope this buyer has a lot of spare money and really, really doesn't mind losing it. [10:48]
mircea_popescu so basically you hope asicminer gets whales too [10:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.18 BTC [+] [10:49]
furuknap Actually, I hope this buyer doesn't get burned more than they can survive. [10:49]
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ericmuys_ furuknap: what's the difference saying that at 2.0 rather than 1.0 other than psychology? [10:51]
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furuknap The major difference is that there is no fundamental value of AM to support such a high price. At 1.0, the value is higher than the price. At 2.0 the price is higher than the value. [10:52]
mircea_popescu i don't see it. [10:52]
pizzaman1337 ASICMINER was discussed at one of the panels at bitcoin2013 earlier today, this could be a VC getting around to dumping some money in [10:52]
furuknap Most likely, the thing that has driven the price up 0.7 in the previous coupld of weeks is that people see the huge dividends, which cannot possibly continue. [10:53]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 yeah, in pt shares. i see it /sarcasm [10:53]
pizzaman1337 "VC" [10:53]
mircea_popescu furuknap i'll tell you what has driven the price : [10:53]
mircea_popescu there's a crowd of idiots who want to invest in-crowd. [10:53]
furuknap It could very well be that someone overheard that a VC might enter and thought the tender would be higher than market. [10:53]
mircea_popescu the good news is that back in 2011 they had about 2mn btc, then in 2012 they had about 100k [10:53]
mircea_popescu and by now they're stuck with about 10k or so [10:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02085 = 0.1043 BTC [+] [10:54]
furuknap Oh, I know. The herd thing is dangerous. I just hope it doesn't taint BTC assets in general as bubble shares. I fear the train may have left for AM. [10:54]
mircea_popescu you're talking to the one guy who prevented that back when it actually had a chance. [10:54]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't worry by now. [10:54]
furuknap I worry because others are greedy. I try to be greedy when others worry. [10:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.18 BTC [+] [10:55]
inhies furuknap: i like that quote [10:56]
inhies the actual quote though, not your version :p [10:56]
mircea_popescu "My partner and I had reservations for 6:45. By 9:30, we still hadn't received our pizza." [10:56]
furuknap Heh, good ole WB has a lot of things right. [10:56]
mircea_popescu bwahaha [10:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.6 = 3.2 BTC [-] [10:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0006839 = 3.4195 BTC [-] [10:57]
furuknap Assbot really need to show options in a special way. [10:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.179999 BTC [+] [10:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [-] [10:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7004 @ 0.00068075 = 4.768 BTC [-] [11:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0214 = 0.214 BTC [+] [11:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00067 = 6.566 BTC [-] [11:12]
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assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 5 @ 0.014999 = 0.075 BTC [+] [11:20]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 110 @ 0.02085 = 2.2935 BTC [+] [11:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+] [11:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.16 = 4.32 BTC [+] [11:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.6 = 4.8 BTC [-] [11:24]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021 BTC [+] [15:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10899 BTC [+] [15:40]
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ericmuyser Is it safe to eat two day old bread? if there's mold, be bold! [15:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26553 @ 0.00067195 = 17.8423 BTC [+] [15:45]
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mircea_popescu the most you'll get is a little high, if it's rye [15:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+] [15:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.000696 = 0.0014 BTC [-] [15:52]
orkaa two day old bread? [15:53]
orkaa are you kidding? [15:53]
orkaa that's basically fresh [15:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.17 BTC [+] [15:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1748 BTC [+] [15:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.174899 BTC [+] [15:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1749 BTC [+] [15:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.174997 = 6.525 BTC [+] [15:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.174998 = 6.525 BTC [+] [15:57]
jurov depends in what conditions was that bread [15:57]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.021494 = 0.129 BTC [+] [15:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5937 @ 0.0006706 = 3.9814 BTC [-] [15:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3386 @ 0.00067059 = 2.2706 BTC [-] [15:59]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 46 @ 0.021495 = 0.9888 BTC [+] [16:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 65 @ 0.021499 = 1.3974 BTC [+] [16:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 250 @ 0.021499 = 5.3748 BTC [+] [16:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 70 @ 0.021511 = 1.5058 BTC [+] [16:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.021511 = 4.3022 BTC [+] [16:01]
deadweasel nothing like a halluciogenic trip before your feet rot off. [16:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 198 @ 0.021595 = 4.2758 BTC [+] [16:01]
deadweasel ;;google ergotism [16:01]
gribble Ergotism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Linda Caporael's Ergotism Article - Help: ; ergotism - definition of ergotism by the Free Online Dictionary ...: [16:01]
ericmuyser gogo TAT AM haha [16:01]
ericmuyser deadweasel: that's dreadful [16:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1748 BTC [-] [16:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.021595 = 0.3023 BTC [+] [16:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 78 @ 0.021595 = 1.6844 BTC [+] [16:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.174998 BTC [+] [16:03]
ericmuyser yum! [16:04]
ericmuyser pay my loans or more into AM, these are my dilemmas [16:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6114 @ 0.00067059 = 4.1 BTC [-] [16:06]
ericmuyser 200% over 4 years, losing $90 (reduced gradually) on each monthly $140 payment. $4200 total [16:06]
ericmuyser furniture lol [16:08]
ericmuyser oh what I could use that 4k on today though :) [16:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.00279 = 0.0084 BTC [+] [16:08]
ericmuyser bed, tv, etc. so it's on my credit score but each $140 payment is helping credit anyway. [16:09]
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ericmuyser huge plasma [16:10]
ericmuyser bed was 1.2k but damn its nice [16:10]
ericmuyser $300 bamboo sheets man <3 [16:10]
ericmuyser nah [16:10]
ericmuyser should have put this in btc haha but regardless.. losing $90 a month.. i can make more than that on the market [16:11]
ericmuyser lol you dont want to know what I did [16:12]
ericmuyser I sold it all and moved to japan, so ya i'm sittin on a shitty $25 chair [16:13]
ericmuyser in a $500 apartment [16:13]
ericmuyser you want an aeron [16:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1999 = 0.3998 BTC [-] [16:13]
ericmuyser oh i didn't get a lazy boy.. wannnt [16:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.021595 = 0.1512 BTC [+] [16:14]
ericmuyser what would you do? pay it off? i'm still young enough to take risks and I have a stable career so I wont go bankrupt [16:15]
ericmuyser hmm yes [16:16]
deadweasel ;;bugpowder [16:19]
gribble Error: "bugpowder" is not a valid command. [16:19]
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deadweasel ;;seen bugpowder [16:19]
gribble bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 13 hours, 29 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: taub asks are getting eaten [16:19]
deadweasel that is nice. [16:21]
deadweasel http://theselvedgeyard.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/eames-chair-herman-miller.jpg [16:22]
deadweasel ^ that's what I want [16:22]
deadweasel centipede looks like it was made with old skateboard decks. [16:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.13 BTC [-] [16:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3886 @ 0.00066941 = 2.6013 BTC [-] [16:25]
deadweasel both comfy and sweaty. [16:26]
Chaaang-Noi i just bought a leather sofa [16:30]
Chaaang-Noi for my smoking room [16:30]
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deadweasel pics goat! [16:35]
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deadweasel but no ladybois 'smoking' anything. [16:35]
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Chaaang-Noi lol you all want pics? [16:44]
Chaaang-Noi the sofa with a box of cubans? [16:44]
Chaaang-Noi why? [16:44]
Chaaang-Noi okay one sec lol [16:45]
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Chaaang-Noi okay i have 2 photos, where do i host them? [16:47]
Chaaang-Noi one sec [16:48]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.130001 BTC [+] [16:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.13 BTC [-] [16:51]
Chaaang-Noi http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2wqeadh&s=5 [16:52]
Chaaang-Noi http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=35jds47&s=5 pic number 2 [16:54]
Chaaang-Noi you can see the btc in the lower left [16:54]
Chaaang-Noi lol PBoy i only smoke cigars, not much weed. once every 6 months or so:) [16:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.0211 = 0.2954 BTC [+] [16:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.122 BTC [-] [16:58]
deadweasel Chaaang-Noi: looks comfy! [16:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 2.121 = 42.42 BTC [-] [16:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.121 = 4.242 BTC [-] [16:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.173899 BTC [+] [17:01]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.02119999 = 0.3604 BTC [+] [17:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.02129 = 0.2129 BTC [+] [17:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 73 @ 0.02145 = 1.5659 BTC [+] [17:04]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/valiant-prince-mp-explores-the-mother-of-all-echo-chambers-a-saga-of-our-times/ [17:05]
mircea_popescu if anyone is looking for some cheap drama. [17:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02144999 = 2.145 BTC [-] [17:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 252 @ 0.02145 = 5.4054 BTC [+] [17:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.021495 = 0.5374 BTC [-] [17:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1738 BTC [-] [17:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.17385 BTC [+] [17:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.173899 BTC [+] [17:08]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.174 = 6.522 BTC [+] [17:08]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1738 BTC [-] [17:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.17385 BTC [+] [17:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.174 BTC [+] [17:10]
ThickAsThieves [10:08] now, I bought alot of asicminer shares [17:10]
ThickAsThieves [10:09] quite cheap it seems [17:10]
ThickAsThieves [10:09] arent they supposed to be 2BTC per share? [17:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1052 = 0.2104 BTC [-] [17:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1052 = 0.3156 BTC [-] [17:10]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+] [17:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.174499 BTC [+] [17:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1745 BTC [+] [17:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.17479 = 10.874 BTC [+] [17:12]
mircea_popescu lol [17:13]
mircea_popescu ah this is going to be so very much fun. [17:13]
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Chaaang-Noi Chaaang-Noi: looks comfy! it is thanks :) [17:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.131 = 4.262 BTC [-] [17:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.130001 BTC [-] [17:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.13 BTC [-] [17:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.126 BTC [-] [17:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.125001 BTC [-] [17:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.123 BTC [-] [17:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.122 BTC [-] [17:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1212 BTC [-] [17:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.121 = 12.726 BTC [-] [17:16]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.121001 BTC [+] [17:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.121 = 4.242 BTC [-] [17:19]
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fiat500 lmfao@ mp [17:20]
fiat500 "Because you see, my dear fellows, not everyone on the Internet is the same. Not all black people are niggers," [17:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.021495 = 1.0748 BTC [-] [17:20]
fiat500 if you say so [17:20]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.15 = 4.3 BTC [+] [17:20]
fiat500 from here http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/internet-story/ [17:20]
fiat500 lulz [17:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.02145 = 0.2574 BTC [+] [17:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.259704 BTC [+] [17:22]
mircea_popescu fiat500 :p [17:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.149999 BTC [-] [17:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 140 @ 0.02133 = 2.9862 BTC [-] [17:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02145 = 0.1073 BTC [+] [17:23]
Chaaang-Noi cog has gone up a bit [17:23]
fiat500 Chaaang-Noi: i took the plunge and bought 30btc worth of cog.f :P [17:25]
jcpham time to sell [17:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.00273 = 0.1365 BTC [-] [17:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.149999 BTC [-] [17:25]
Chaaang-Noi hope it does well [17:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.125001 BTC [-] [17:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.125 BTC [-] [17:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.15 = 6.45 BTC [+] [17:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02145 = 0.1931 BTC [+] [17:26]
fiat500 should be interesting [17:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00279 = 0.0698 BTC [+] [17:26]
fiat500 many people want a time machine to go back in time, at present, i would like a time machine to send me forward a few months [17:26]
fiat500 thats a dark way of looking at it [17:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 28 @ 0.000696 = 0.0195 BTC [-] [17:28]
fiat500 anyone know whats up with bitvps, these guys cant turn a profit it seems, lol [17:29]
Chaaang-Noi never liked the business modle [17:31]
Chaaang-Noi model [17:31]
jurov they got raped by ghost [17:32]
Chaaang-Noi lol [17:32]
fiat500 dwindling sales since feb [17:32]
ThickAsThieves [10:27]
putting urself closer to death.. < not true 		[17:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.02133 = 0.3839 BTC [-] [17:32]
ThickAsThieves time machine is to travel time, not fast forward it [17:32]
ThickAsThieves :P [17:32]
fiat500 really sad tbh, i wanna see more internet services built on btc [17:32]
fiat500 ThickAsThieves: indeed [17:33]
ThickAsThieves they dont affect us [17:33]
ThickAsThieves this is a fact [17:33]
ThickAsThieves them not existing n all [17:34]
fiat500 Chaaang-Noi: i think maybe COG.F shareholders deserve a say in how their money is spent [17:34]
ThickAsThieves cant beat my time machine [17:34]
fiat500 rather than leave it to the unwashed masses in COGNITIVE whose interests are a quick payoff [17:34]
jurov lol it's not their money... where do you have the notion from? [17:34]
fiat500 jurov: humor me, whose is it then? [17:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18983 @ 0.00067097 = 12.737 BTC [+] [17:36]
jurov those who have teh private key? [17:36]
fiat500 O_o [17:36]
fiat500 what point are you trying to make [17:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021011 = 0.2101 BTC [-] [17:36]
ThickAsThieves [10:34] lol it's not their money [17:37]
ThickAsThieves he made his point already [17:37]
jurov https://btct.co/security/COGNITIVE says nothing about ownership, just about participation and distribution of mining revenue [17:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 113 @ 0.02145 = 2.4239 BTC [+] [17:38]
fiat500 jurov: i am talking about COG.F [17:38]
jurov link? [17:38]
fiat500 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg1608775#msg1608775 [17:39]
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fiat500 fund designed for purchase of new hardware, but funnily enough with no voting power (COGNITIVE shareholders get to decide how it is spent) [17:40]
ThickAsThieves decisions are best made by committee after all... [17:41]
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jurov okay to me it looks like a loan. and borrower thus owns the coins, with purported obligation to fullfill some conditions later [17:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1999 = 0.5997 BTC [-] [17:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.021329 = 0.0853 BTC [+] [17:43]
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jurov whole thing says plenty how poorly bitcoin assets work. garrett cannot accept promises from prospective shareholders that they will have the coins [17:43]
jurov "when the opportunity becomes available (Whether it be Avlalon, BFL, or other)" [17:44]
fiat500 im not talking about obligations here, im saying it is weird that holders of COGNITIVE, whose interests are a quick payoff, get to decide how the money provided by COG.F investors is spent [17:44]
jurov he has actually to take the coins and do the escrow himself [17:44]
fiat500 yeah [17:45]
fiat500 the price we pay for lack of regulation? [17:45]
fiat500 anyway im not too bothered by it, just thinking out loud [17:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.021329 = 0.128 BTC [+] [17:48]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.149496 BTC [-] [17:56]
mircea_popescu okay to me it looks like a loan. and borrower thus owns the coins, with purported obligation to fullfill some conditions later << methinks j man has been doing a lot of reading up lately. [17:56]
jurov nah im just pretending [17:57]
mircea_popescu hehe. it is a good thing. and you are exactly correct, by thwe way, it's a point few people understand [17:57]
mircea_popescu that's why it's not legally surprising a bank takes its depositor funds. they are unsecured creditors. the bank is the owner of all funds deposited by anyone. [17:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.149497 BTC [+] [17:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.149989 = 12.8999 BTC [+] [17:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 2.14999 = 32.2499 BTC [+] [17:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 2.15 = 45.15 BTC [+] [17:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21147 @ 0.00067089 = 14.1873 BTC [-] [17:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 2.15 = 43 BTC [+] [17:59]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.150001 BTC [+] [18:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.15 = 12.9 BTC [-] [18:07]
fiat500 bots >_> [18:07]
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ThickAsThieves those were bids i think [18:08]
b0n1 what would you say is a fair rate for lending btc short? [18:08]
ThickAsThieves people getting aggressive with the buying [18:08]
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ThickAsThieves someone bought 90 @ 2.2 on BF last night [18:08]
mircea_popescu b0n1 not quite enough market data yet to answer that q. [18:09]
mircea_popescu whatever you can get away with i guess. [18:09]
fiat500 b0n1: going rate on bfx is 0.02%/day [18:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021495 BTC [+] [18:10]
b0n1 fiat500, yeah i saw that, but that does look extremely low in my oppinion [18:10]
mircea_popescu also pretty meaningless. [18:11]
ThickAsThieves i dont think anyone could read furuknap's analysis without their eyes crossing and moving on [18:11]
fiat500 ThickAsThieves: LOL [18:11]
fiat500 yeah [18:11]
mircea_popescu he made it too tense. otherwise he does have a point. [18:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00066815 = 10.49 BTC [-] [18:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00066751 = 1.6354 BTC [-] [18:12]
fiat500 b0n1: point is if you try to charge more, you wont find borrowers [18:13]
fiat500 not that its a fair value [18:13]
mircea_popescu as far as i know tho, it's the borrowers who come to the terms of the lender [18:13]
mircea_popescu not the other way around [18:13]
mircea_popescu nobody is desperate to lend out btc. [18:13]
ThickAsThieves i want a BTC credit line [18:14]
fiat500 heh, on bfx they are quite desperate [18:14]
mircea_popescu get in mpex, trade a lot, they're not hard to get. [18:14]
fiat500 variable interest rate nets >70% p.a [18:15]
mircea_popescu fiat500 except they don't make it a full year. [18:15]
ThickAsThieves but in mpex i'd have to trade mpoe back and forth all day [18:15]
fiat500 mircea_popescu: right, but thats still pretty high [18:15]
mircea_popescu afaik this was discussed in the forum fiat500. the blowout rate was like 30%, making any interest under 5k pa or so a losing proposition. [18:15]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you know most pro traders irl trade one asset class. [18:16]
ThickAsThieves and jurov already ahs that market cornered [18:16]
fiat500 i borrowed $20k on margin for a long position a few days ago, made $1700 but also had to pay $200 swap [18:16]
mircea_popescu might explain why actual ws types aren't as worried about it as the forum variety seekrs. [18:16]
fiat500 so its a non-negligible amount of money [18:16]
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fiat500 (over 3-4 days) [18:16]
mircea_popescu anyway, off to teh dungeons. take care all. [18:16]
ThickAsThieves i could probly just start a find [18:17]
ThickAsThieves fund [18:17]
ThickAsThieves or issue bonds [18:17]
ThickAsThieves and get btc much cheaper [18:17]
fiat500 like namworld? [18:17]
ThickAsThieves yep [18:17]
ThickAsThieves ive considered it [18:17]
jurov and jurov already ahs that market cornered <<< haha i'm rly so scary? [18:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02145 BTC [+] [18:21]
ThickAsThieves nah, i just HATE bots [18:21]
ThickAsThieves you can have your MPOE racket [18:21]
ThickAsThieves :) [18:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 335 @ 0.02145 = 7.1858 BTC [+] [18:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02145119 = 0.1931 BTC [+] [18:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 106 @ 0.0214512 = 2.2738 BTC [+] [18:22]
ThickAsThieves eat, eat, who ever heard of a skinny santa? [18:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021495 BTC [+] [18:23]
jurov lol [18:23]
ThickAsThieves http://www.hark.com/clips/lsbvcbjlcv-skinny-santa [18:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.021495 = 0.3869 BTC [+] [18:29]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 170 @ 0.0214512 = 3.6467 BTC [+] [18:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0214512 = 0.0644 BTC [+] [18:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.168899 BTC [+] [18:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1689 BTC [+] [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [-] [18:48]
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deadweasel we are all food, we are all meant to be eaten. [18:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.168 = 4.336 BTC [+] [18:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1689 BTC [+] [18:59]
deadweasel for every 1 human cell there are 10 non-human cells in our bodies. [18:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.169 BTC [+] [18:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.178 = 6.534 BTC [+] [18:59]
deadweasel microbes [18:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.178 BTC [+] [18:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.17998 = 4.36 BTC [+] [18:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02120002 BTC [-] [19:00]
ThickAsThieves [11:58] we are all food, we are all meant to be eaten. < that might be debatable [19:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1798 BTC [-] [19:01]
ThickAsThieves we have adapted to eat things [19:01]
ThickAsThieves not to be eaten [19:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.02120002 = 0.1272 BTC [-] [19:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02144 = 2.144 BTC [+] [19:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 94 @ 0.02145 = 2.0163 BTC [+] [19:02]
deadweasel ThickAsThieves: when you die you will be eaten, unless cremated or taxidermied [19:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1798 BTC [-] [19:02]
deadweasel things have adapted to eat us, too. [19:02]
deadweasel they are just smaller than use. [19:02]
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deadweasel use/us [19:02]
ThickAsThieves nonetheless, we arent made to be eaten [19:03]
ThickAsThieves unless you wanna get really abstract [19:03]
ThickAsThieves and say we are meant to be eaten by the universe itself [19:03]
deadweasel i do. :) [19:03]
ThickAsThieves hehe [19:03]
ThickAsThieves btw do you watch that Hannibal show? [19:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.2611 = 0.5222 BTC [+] [19:04]
ThickAsThieves pretty good stuff [19:04]
deadweasel no, not yet, I downloaded the first few, but GF was frightened so didn't get through 5 minutes of first one. [19:04]
ThickAsThieves yeah it's pretty gruesome for tv [19:04]
ThickAsThieves like Se7en [19:04]
ThickAsThieves maybe worse [19:04]
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deadweasel that whole movie was unnecessary, i think I'll skip Hannibal unless I'm very bored. [19:05]
deadweasel borgias and game of thrones are filled the ARCHER void for me right now. [19:05]
deadweasel filled/filling [19:05]
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deadweasel if I could watch new episodes of archer for the rest of my life I'd seriously consider it. [19:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.158 BTC [-] [19:06]
ThickAsThieves i couldnt get into Borgias [19:07]
ThickAsThieves nor Archer [19:07]
deadweasel it's not worth it, all drama, not enough historical action or battlefield action [19:07]
deadweasel borgias is not. [19:07]
ThickAsThieves GoT is good, but best watched in binge mode [19:07]
deadweasel archer is the mutherloving best show I've ever seen. [19:07]
deadweasel takes a certain type of humor though. [19:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00279 = 0.0279 BTC [+] [19:07]
deadweasel my type. [19:08]
deadweasel yeah ThickAsThieves, people smarter than I are waiting for all the seasons to finished and then do the 5 day marathon vacation with the box set. [19:08]
deadweasel which I wish I'd done. [19:09]
deadweasel that way the smaller subplots hook better and you're more interested in the drama. [19:09]
ThickAsThieves yeah I always feel like I need like 30 more min per ep [19:10]
ThickAsThieves too many plots [19:10]
deadweasel so CISPA is not dead: http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/cispa-not-dead/ [19:11]
deadweasel i forget, you in the states ThickAsThieves ? [19:11]
ThickAsThieves yes [19:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02144 = 2.144 BTC [-] [19:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.02145 = 0.1287 BTC [+] [19:12]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16 BTC [+] [19:12]
deadweasel then pls help kill CISPA round two. :) [19:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02144999 = 2.145 BTC [-] [19:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02145 = 2.145 BTC [+] [19:17]
ThickAsThieves i did [19:17]
ThickAsThieves and i shared [19:17]
ThickAsThieves thx [19:17]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.168 = 4.336 BTC [+] [19:19]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.168 BTC [+] [19:26]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021011 = 0.2101 BTC [-] [19:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021011 BTC [-] [19:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02146 = 2.146 BTC [+] [19:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000646 = 0.0065 BTC [-] [19:29]
jcpham dump it all [19:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [-] [19:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [-] [19:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1798 BTC [+] [19:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 65 @ 0.02146 = 1.3949 BTC [+] [19:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021011 BTC [-] [19:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.021011 = 0.4833 BTC [-] [19:34]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.179 = 4.358 BTC [-] [19:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.021011 = 0.6724 BTC [-] [19:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.02148899 = 0.7306 BTC [+] [19:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.239 BTC [-] [19:40]
inhies o my [19:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.6 = 8 BTC [-] [19:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02148899 = 0.0645 BTC [+] [19:44]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.179 BTC [+] [19:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.17998 BTC [+] [19:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.179999 = 6.54 BTC [+] [19:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.18 BTC [+] [19:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.18 = 10.9 BTC [+] [19:47]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.6 = 6.4 BTC [-] [19:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6427 @ 0.00067053 = 4.3095 BTC [+] [19:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021011 = 0.2101 BTC [-] [19:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.6 = 6.4 BTC [-] [19:49]
mircea_popescu o no. [19:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.021011 = 1.5758 BTC [-] [19:50]
mircea_popescu 1.6 so soon ? [19:50]
deadweasel ;;seen mjr___ [19:50]
gribble mjr___ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 14 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: talk to you later, and i'll let you know how it goes in union square [19:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.021011 = 0.4202 BTC [-] [19:50]
asa1024 was an option [19:50]
aknap3 oh come on, don't pretend you don't know those are my options :) [19:50]
mircea_popescu i'm not pretending [19:51]
aknap3 well, you fooled me then [19:51]
mircea_popescu and why are options trading in the underlying or wtf nonsense have you kids cooked up this time ? [19:51]
aknap3 it's a stupid setup the way options are reported [19:51]
mircea_popescu mkay. [19:51]
aknap3 on the other hand, it's great for poking fun at [19:51]
deadweasel ;;seen mjr_ [19:52]
gribble mjr_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 22 hours, 11 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: hey Bugpowda [19:52]
ThickAsThieves it's probably a pita to code it just so gribble sees options differently [19:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+] [19:53]
ThickAsThieves mpex doesnt even show option excercises [19:53]
ThickAsThieves might be a better approach [19:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.021011 = 0.6934 BTC [-] [19:53]
mircea_popescu why don't options get their own mpsics like in NORMAL SANE PEOPLE LAND [19:53]
mircea_popescu wtf. [19:53]
jcpham selling all the things today [19:53]
deadweasel ;;later tell mjr_ #BTCPro is discussing buttonwood and your blog write up of it, they like it. [19:53]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:53]
jcpham btct.co exit [19:53]
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jcpham buy all the cheap things [19:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.188 BTC [+] [19:54]
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deadweasel what cheap things are you buying? [19:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.021594 = 0.108 BTC [+] [19:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000646 = 0.0013 BTC [-] [19:56]
deadweasel don't worry, I'm all cash except cold storage, i won't steal your cheap things [19:56]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+] [20:02]
b0n1 do you leave your BTC on your gox acc? how do you estimate the risk? [20:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.188 = 4.376 BTC [+] [20:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.188 = 4.376 BTC [+] [20:03]
kakobrekla b0n1 coins you can lose [20:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.188 = 13.128 BTC [+] [20:04]
saulimus can't you lose usd also? thieves can just buy coins with your usd and transfer out [20:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.6 = 8 BTC [-] [20:04]
deadweasel saulimus: coins are way easier to steal and spend again, electronic funds can be reversed [20:05]
deadweasel but you're right [20:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.6 = 4.8 BTC [-] [20:05]
deadweasel if they had trade access and withdraw access, they could [20:05]
deadweasel but you'd have to have really lax security measure for that to happen. [20:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 63 @ 0.02148899 = 1.3538 BTC [+] [20:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.6 = 4.8 BTC [-] [20:06]
deadweasel I only use info and trade on my api keys [20:06]
saulimus I read on reddit some cases where 2fa was on but they still stole everything [20:06]
b0n1 if your account password gets hacked, both fiat and btc can be stolen easily like [20:09]
b0n1 i think this one way password makes things much safer [20:09]
b0n1 but does it work for you? [20:10]
kakobrekla i have yubikey [20:10]
kakobrekla and im not in sauna [20:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02149 = 0.086 BTC [+] [20:11]
ThickAsThieves AM is solomining now [20:11]
ThickAsThieves signing blocks [20:11]
kakobrekla about time [20:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.189 = 4.378 BTC [+] [20:11]
ThickAsThieves https://blockchain.info/tx/cba743ea1b7904c5624e0ee75f12d177ceb214c07f8e8b55ff2eb082404eb54a?show_adv=true [20:11]
ThickAsThieves tx in ROmania hehe [20:12]
kakobrekla supernodes concentration [20:12]
ThickAsThieves check out the wallet that received the reward [20:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.198 = 4.396 BTC [+] [20:13]
ThickAsThieves https://blockchain.info/address/1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i [20:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02149 = 0.0645 BTC [+] [20:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 525 @ 0.02149 = 11.2823 BTC [+] [20:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.021592 = 0.108 BTC [-] [20:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021593 = 0.2159 BTC [+] [20:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 65 @ 0.02149 = 1.3969 BTC [+] [20:21]
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mircea_popescu gee look at all thos 30 btcs [20:25]
jcpham anyone selling ripple? [20:27]
ThickAsThieves I'll sell at 10x market price [20:28]
jcpham deadweasel i'm exiting [20:29]
inhies ThickAsThieves: is there any way to find other blocks that were mined by them [20:29]
jcpham all the securities [20:29]
ThickAsThieves inhies thats the first one [20:29]
ThickAsThieves not sure otherwise [20:29]
jcpham time to go. you guys have fun. i'm getting that glbse feeling [20:29]
ThickAsThieves ? [20:30]
ThickAsThieves care to elaborate [20:30]
ThickAsThieves or just paranoia [20:30]
jcpham right before glbse closed i felt like i should've sold everything [20:30]
jcpham that feeling is back [20:30]
jcpham thanks for TAT.ASICMINER [20:30]
jcpham that was fun [20:30]
inhies jcpham: sell me your shares 4 cheap plz [20:31]
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inhies thx [20:31]
ThickAsThieves well shoot [20:31]
jcpham all gone [20:31]
ThickAsThieves so you have nothing but spider sense? [20:31]
ThickAsThieves or do you know somehting [20:31]
jcpham true story [20:31]
jcpham all smoke and mirrors [20:31]
ThickAsThieves huh? [20:32]
jcpham paranoia and nothing else. [20:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1875 BTC [-] [20:32]
deadweasel jcpham: i respect that. guts often know things our conscious minds don't. [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00067089 = 18.0469 BTC [+] [20:32]
jcpham i wish you the nest [20:32]
deadweasel maybe it's the flora in your gut, it noes more than your brains! [20:32]
jcpham *best [20:32]
deadweasel jcpham: i'm out of assets too and BTC, except for my cold storage egg [20:33]
jcpham mostly assets i'm talking about [20:33]
jcpham might be worst time ever to exit [20:33]
jcpham shrug [20:33]
deadweasel meh [20:33]
deadweasel it's all hindsight. [20:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.187 = 4.374 BTC [-] [20:33]
deadweasel kick yourself later. [20:33]
mircea_popescu i wish you the nest is not so bad [20:33]
Chaaang-Noi why you all selling? [20:33]
jcpham dumping is what i'm doing [20:34]
Chaaang-Noi!*@* added to ignore list. [20:34]
jcpham all shares.lowest price [20:34]
jcpham time to go [20:34]
deadweasel i did what jcpham did for the same reasons. course it was self-fulfilling prophecy as I dumped sdice. [20:34]
jcpham i won enough [20:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 226 @ 0.02149 = 4.8567 BTC [+] [20:35]
jcpham i'm more concerned with my locality [20:35]
jcpham which isn't the usa [20:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.00279 = 0.0167 BTC [+] [20:36]
* savetheinternet has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) [20:36]
jcpham ripple. [20:36]
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