Forum logs for 20 Feb 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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rawrmage	redditcoin: do mo	[00:00]
redditcoin	rawrmage: My Master has not taught me how to communicate with humans. I can't even guess what language you're speaking!	[00:00]
rawrmage	lol	[00:00]
rawrmage	redditcoin: how are you?	[00:00]
redditcoin	rawrmage: My Master has not taught me how to communicate with humans. I can't even guess what language you're speaking!	[00:00]
rawrmage	:(	[00:00]
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mcorlett	You're a funny guy, you, rawrmage.	[00:01]
jine	rg: Lol, luckystreak at bitlc now... 3 rounds in the past hour :P	[00:02]
CaptainDDL	I gotta agree with Joric...without the fees, or even if they were more competitive with MtGox, I'd likely use your exchange for USD trades.	[00:02]
rg	nice jine	[00:02]
rg	unfortunately i only have 1GH at bitlc now	[00:02]
rg	i barely mine	[00:03]
rg	my 'rig' was too much 'trouble' to 'maintain'	[00:03]
rawrmage	are you talking about a penis	[00:03]
rg	::wink::	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	redditcoin : want free booze ?	[00:03]
paulzag	CaptainDDL, Joric phantomcircuit isn't that the point of the new fee structure?	[00:03]
rg	no	[00:03]
*	rg invoices rawrmage for 14 jiggaponies	[00:04]
rawrmage	:(	[00:04]
rg	i just watched a movie called 'Harsh Times'	[00:04]
rg	what a stinker	[00:04]
mcorlett	Does it make sense for me to connect redditcoin's OTC profile with mine via a 10 rating from both sides?	[00:04]
paulzag	plus I want my exchanges surviving - how can they work without fees?	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	not much sense rating bots rly	[00:04]
rg	The requested URL /console/changepassword.php was not found on this server.	[00:05]
rg	james you idiot.	[00:05]
rawrmage	yes	[00:05]
jine	paulzag: How can google work without ads?	[00:05]
mcorlett	mircea_popescu: As I said earlier, bootstrapping your OTC rating, for one.	[00:05]
jine	They money comes from other sources.	[00:05]
rg	i need to check this into a svn repo	[00:05]
CaptainDDL	paulzag, not sure what fee structure you're talking about, but when I last checked yesterday the fees were at .65%, I can get .6% at MtGox with 0 previous activity.	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	mcorlett i don't thin kpeople look kindly on "bootstrapping". i know i don't.	[00:06]
jine	rg: ... svn? seriously?	[00:06]
mcorlett	mircea_popescu: You don't look kindly on making a trade for your first rating?	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	you traded with the bot ?!	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	maybe im missing something here.	[00:06]
rg	jine: well	[00:06]
rg	usually i use CVS	[00:07]
paulzag	CaptainDDL, under the new fee structure, I'll get .35% as a market maker - major win for me...	[00:07]
rg	to be completley honest	[00:07]
mcorlett	You traded with my service, what difference does it make if I'm the one entering the rating or it's automated?	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	but you don't trade with yourself man.	[00:07]
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paulzag	and if you are doing enough volume that .05% makes a difference, you'll also get 0.35%	[00:07]
mcorlett	mircea_popescu: What?!	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	mk. who runs/opperates redditcoin ?	[00:08]
mcorlett	I do.	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	then if you rate it, all i see is you're multying to manipulate your otc trust	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	and not trust you.	[00:08]
chmod755	tl;dr You can get money out of PayPal by transferring money then telling your bank it was a false transfer. << https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64568 << lmao	[00:08]
jine	rg: You are a strange person.	[00:09]
jine	Do you use Windows 95 aswell? Cause you seem to have a thing for old, sucky software :)	[00:09]
chmod755	git clone http://255.255.255.255/theinternet.git	[00:10]
vragnaroda	mircea_popescu: He's being rather explicit about what he's doing and not really deceiving anyone. I don't see the problem.	[00:10]
phungus	there are a buttload of sysadmins for which CVS/RCS is like muscle responses for storing config files and information	[00:10]
phungus	RG is an old school sysadmin	[00:10]
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vragnaroda	People know that he separates his bot's activity from his regular activity.	[00:11]
phungus	I still use Shift-Insert for paste	[00:11]
mcorlett	mircea_popescu: Actually, I was originally going to have it tied to my main account (this), but it was suggested to me by others that I split up the accounts.	[00:11]
phungus	that is a Sun thing	[00:11]
chmod755	i think i still have win 95 somewhere....	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	well its not a problem in the sense of omg scam, but as a general policy, i don't think tis such a great ideea. seemed to me that's what he's asking.	[00:11]
vragnaroda	There are others in the past that have done that. (At least one that I know of, anyway.)	[00:11]
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mircea_popescu	hey mcorlett, public space, you ask, you get contradictory povs.	[00:11]
danieldaniel	grr	[00:11]
danieldaniel	where can I find bitcoind?	[00:11]
rg	shrug	[00:12]
phungus	danieldaniel: bitcoin.org	[00:12]
rg	ive never had a problem with cvs	[00:12]
rg	ever	[00:12]
vragnaroda	/usr/bin/bitcoind	[00:12]
danieldaniel	its not thar	[00:12]
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vragnaroda	:þ	[00:12]
rg	so why would i switch to something else when it works fine	[00:12]
rg	?	[00:12]
rawrmage	Valalvax:	[00:12]
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rawrmage	sorry	[00:12]
rg	root@master:/var/www/clients/console# ls \| wc -l	[00:12]
rawrmage	rndbit:	[00:12]
rawrmage	sorry	[00:12]
rg	32	[00:12]
rg	small program	[00:12]
rg	no need for anything advanced	[00:12]
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chmod755	bitcoind chargeback ""	[00:13]
vragnaroda	rawrmage:	[00:13]
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rg	i cant believe ive been adding people to this without having a change passwrod feature	[00:13]
rg	awful	[00:13]
vragnaroda	Why are you doing that?	[00:13]
rawrmage	iiiiiiiiiiiiiit's	[00:13]
rawrmage	kinda an accident	[00:13]
nanotube	mcorlett: it's fine either way. i don't see anything wrong with rating the bot and say "this is my bot, i operate redditcoin" and have him rate you back with same. that said, to reduce appearance of rating inflation, you could go for 1 instead of 10 :)	[00:13]
danieldaniel	phungus: i can't find it	[00:13]
redditcoin	nanotube: That sounds rational, considering the bot won't be handing out ratings higher than 1 anyway.	[00:14]
vragnaroda	Well, just realize if your bot does something unpredictable, the higher that rating you give the bot, the worse the negative rating you'll both get.	[00:14]
vragnaroda	What is your bot rating people for, anyway?	[00:14]
redditcoin	Also true.	[00:14]
nanotube	vragnaroda: he will operate a service selling reddit points (or whatever their forum currency is called)	[00:15]
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nanotube	so presumably there will be actual trade transactions behind those ratings	[00:15]
chmod755	nanotube: reddit gold stuff?	[00:15]
redditcoin	nanotube, chmod755: Yes, and yes.	[00:16]
vragnaroda	I probably would make it give variable ratings for that depending on volume, frequency, and amounts, but OK.	[00:16]
jine	http://redditcoin.appspot.com/calc?username=bitcoin	[00:16]
jine	lol	[00:16]
jine	<3	[00:16]
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rg	Traceback (most recent call last):	[00:16]
rg	File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/_webapp25.py", line 701, in __call__	[00:16]
rg	handler.get(*groups)	[00:16]
rg	File "/base/data/home/apps/s~redditcoin/1.350368905217588285/calc.py", line 53, in get	[00:16]
rg	data = Redditor.fetch_info(username)["data"]	[00:16]
rg	KeyError: 'data'	[00:16]
rg		[00:16]
jine	rg: should work, just F5	[00:17]
rg	no, i caused that error	[00:17]
rg	on purpose	[00:17]
rg	debug on prod != good	[00:17]
redditcoin	At least I got the better domain name. http://redditcoin.com/	[00:17]
*	chmod755 has 5297.70514683 redditcoins	[00:17]
jine	rg: +1	[00:18]
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jine	I has 0.	[00:18]
jine	I don't use reddit :P	[00:18]
rg	i use scrolldit.com	[00:18]
rg	for pictures	[00:18]
rg	i couldnt care less about anything else on reddit	[00:18]
jine	redditcoin: What... is that, more exactly?	[00:18]
jine	I understand the appspot-service, more or less	[00:19]
jine	but your site makes no sense.	[00:19]
redditcoin	redditcoin: I sell reddit gold!	[00:19]
jine	redditcoin: redditcoin redditcoin redditcoin ok.	[00:19]
redditcoin	redditcoin redditcoin redditcoin redditcoin redditcoin redditcoin	[00:19]
jine	Stop spamming...	[00:19]
DBordello	redditcoin, i like your website	[00:19]
chmod755	redditcoin: i post things to reddit.... get upvotes... profit??	[00:20]
nanotube	vragnaroda: yea that'd be sensible, in the longer term.	[00:20]
Cory	redditcoin: You're buying 12 creddits at a time for $2.50 each, right?	[00:20]
redditcoin	Cory: Correct.	[00:20]
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jine	"creddits"	[00:21]
jine	lol	[00:21]
jine	oh crap, it's actually real	[00:21]
chmod755	redditcoin: why don't you create a service where users get paid to upvote sth lol	[00:21]
jine	I thought you we're joking.	[00:22]
Cory	Lol	[00:22]
silvercoin	Anyone selling mtg codes?	[00:22]
jine	silvercoin: Sure, PPUSD?	[00:22]
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silvercoin	yes	[00:22]
jine	How much? :)	[00:22]
silvercoin	pm	[00:22]
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Cory	Anybody have a screenshot of today's alert?	[00:24]
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jine	"errors" : "See bitcoin.org/feb20 if you have trouble connecting after 20 February"	[00:24]
jine	Is that enought? :P don't use the gui.	[00:25]
Cory	Heh, I was hoping to see what the GUI did.	[00:25]
redditcoin	It just says what jine said in the lower left.	[00:25]
Cory	Oh, heh, yup.	[00:25]
Cory	I thought it was only older versions, but my GUI client shows the alert too.	[00:26]
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jine	HOW was that broadcasted, more exactly?	[00:26]
jine	Who verified it, who relayed it, who controls it?	[00:27]
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redditcoin	jine: Satoshi's key, every client relays it if the signature checks out.	[00:27]
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nanotube	through the regular p2pnet. there's an alert system. alerts have to be signed by a prespecified key	[00:27]
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jine	I know, but i didn't know that anyone (and who does?) have the key.	[00:27]
redditcoin	Cory: That's intentional. The switch changes the checksum, and there are concerns some routers will rewrite messages and invalidate the checksum, so everyone gets it.	[00:27]
redditcoin	jine: Satoshi, Gavin, and theymos (I believe).	[00:28]
Cory	redditcoin: That's right. I think Gavin signed this one.	[00:28]
redditcoin	Cory: That is correct. There was discussion last night in #bitcoin-dev.	[00:28]
jine	Ok :)	[00:28]
vragnaroda	Oh, I was wondering about that. That's bothersome.	[00:29]
nanotube	now the question is, when does the alert expire? :)	[00:29]
DBordello	that is bothersome	[00:29]
*	vragnaroda wonders how much of a PITA it'd be to strip out this “alert system”	[00:30]
theymos	Alert expires tomorrow.	[00:30]
redditcoin	nanotube: That can be specified together with the alert, although I don't know the specifics about the current one.	[00:30]
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redditcoin	vragnaroda: If nothing else, just invalidate Satoshi's signature.	[00:30]
nanotube	vragnaroda: probably simple enough.	[00:30]
nanotube	theymos: ah ok :)	[00:30]
nanotube	redditcoin: yea i know, i was asking when it was set to expire. ;)	[00:30]
vragnaroda	nanotube: Probably simple enough if you're already familiar with the source. :þ	[00:31]
rawrmage	what is this?	[00:31]
rawrmage	alert?	[00:31]
rawrmage	how do we see them via the command line client	[00:31]
theymos	The exact expiration is Feb 21 02:47:15.	[00:31]
redditcoin	nanotube: Here you go: Feb 21 02:47:15 (UTC)	[00:31]
AcidicChip	What's this alert that I'm apparantly missing out on?	[00:31]
redditcoin	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Alerts	[00:31]
DBordello	getinfo	[00:31]
AcidicChip	ty	[00:31]
redditcoin	theymos: Ninja'd.	[00:31]
chmod755	the alert system doesn't give me instructions to buy or sell btc.....	[00:31]
nanotube	vragnaroda: well yes. familiarity with source would help ;)	[00:31]
*	nanotube Alert chmod755. buy btc! :)	[00:31]
rawrmage	so whose key was this alert signed by? SATOSHI? :O	[00:32]
nanotube	it is "the alert signing key"	[00:32]
nanotube	which was indeed originally generated by satoshi.	[00:32]
rawrmage	SATOSHI IS ALIVE? :O	[00:32]
nanotube	no, msg was sent by gavin. who also has key	[00:32]
chmod755	;;itsatoshialive	[00:32]
rawrmage	awwwwwww	[00:32]
nanotube	haha	[00:32]
chmod755	;;issatoshialive	[00:32]
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nanotube	chmod755: try eightball :)	[00:33]
rawrmage	the church was gonna be really excited :(	[00:33]
vragnaroda	nanotube: So, it's one key that's been shared by more than one person?	[00:33]
chmod755	;;notice See bitcoin.org/feb20 if you have trouble connecting after 20 February	[00:33]
-gribble/bitcoin-otc-	See bitcoin.org/feb20 if you have trouble connecting after 20 February	[00:33]
masori	he's in here, chmod755	[00:33]
nanotube	vragnaroda: indeed.	[00:33]
chmod755	nanotube: using your alert system	[00:33]
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jine	"04fc9702847840aaf195de8442ebecedf5b095cdbb9bc716bda9110971b28a49e0ead8564ff0db22209e0374782c093bb899692d524e9d6a6956e7c5ecbcd68284"	[00:33]
chmod755	;;eightball Is satoshi alive?	[00:33]
nanotube	chmod755: haha disclaimer: alerts for entertainment purposes only	[00:33]
jine	Bruteforce the shit out of it!	[00:33]
vragnaroda	jine: lol	[00:33]
jine	Had to check the source for the alert-system :D	[00:33]
jine	Pretty simple.	[00:34]
nanotube	jine: heh, it'd only give you the ability to spam all bitcoin users. :P	[00:34]
chmod755	nanotube: (11:33:45 PM) gribble: You know the answer better than I.	[00:34]
nanotube	chmod755: haha nice	[00:34]
rawrmage	so wait wait	[00:34]
rawrmage	is this the first alter	[00:34]
rawrmage	alter	[00:34]
rawrmage	alert	[00:34]
rawrmage	sent	[00:34]
nanotube	yes i think so.	[00:34]
rawrmage	also I can't type	[00:34]
nanotube	there have been testnet alerts too of course	[00:34]
redditcoin	vragnaroda: Here you go: main.h, line 1622.	[00:34]
rawrmage	"Even though Bitcoin no longer automatically disables RPC when an alert is live, it is wise for Bitcoin sites to shut down when an alert has been issued. To detect an active alert, poll the "errors" field of getinfo."	[00:35]
redditcoin	Just mess up the signature, or make it return false by default.	[00:35]
rawrmage	SHUT DOWN OT	[00:35]
rawrmage	C	[00:35]
redditcoin	public key*	[00:35]
vragnaroda	redditcoin: I'm not digging into that now.	[00:35]
vragnaroda	wat	[00:35]
rawrmage	it'd be funny if mtgox automatically shut down	[00:35]
theymos	It'd be nice if Bitcoin had a "getCriticalAlerts" method so that non-critical alerts like this one didn't cause careful sites to shut down automatically.	[00:35]
jine	If the client would to disable RPC when a alert is live, that would mean thousand of services dying.	[00:35]
jine	Pretty bad :P	[00:35]
jine	theymos: agree	[00:36]
DBordello	yeah, that sounds like a bad idea	[00:36]
theymos	Safe mode was only activated when the alert priority was over 2000(?) and strRPC was set in the alert.	[00:36]
nanotube	theymos: i'm sure patches would be welcome ;)	[00:36]
chmod755	theymos: is everyone allowed to send out alerts on testnet?	[00:36]
theymos	No.	[00:36]
jine	chmod755: Start your own testnew :)	[00:36]
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vragnaroda	Well, if you manage to brute-force that key, … ;)	[00:37]
chmod755	also: who was the testnet satoshi???? lol	[00:37]
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vragnaroda	Is it the same key for testnet alerts?	[00:38]
theymos	Testnet was created by Gavin. This is easily apparent because the testnet addressversion is 111. :)	[00:38]
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theymos	Same key. Lots of altcoins forget to remove this code and therefore also use the same key.	[00:38]
chmod755	LMAO	[00:39]
vragnaroda	lol	[00:39]
jine	another reason not to use altcoins.	[00:39]
vragnaroda	jine: how is that a reason not to use altcoins?	[00:39]
chmod755	send out an alert to solidcoin.... Solidcoin has been hacked. We're sorry.	[00:39]
vragnaroda	When has the alert system ever been useful?	[00:39]
jine	vragnaroda: ^	[00:39]
vragnaroda	That's not an answer.	[00:40]
jine	vragnaroda: It's very, very usefull if something really breaks, leaks or similar.	[00:40]
theymos	It's useful right now.	[00:40]
vragnaroda	There are plenty of reasons not to use most of the forks, but that's not one.	[00:41]
jine	I haaate slow connections, it's lagging like hell atm.	[00:41]
theymos	It's useful in case something goes wrong: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Contingency_plans	[00:41]
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vragnaroda	I think it's pretty clear we have different definitions for ‘useful’	[00:41]
rawrmage	contingency plans? lol	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	does anyone actually go down on "alerts" ?	[00:41]
amiller	this has been a test of the emergency bitcoin alert system	[00:42]
redditcoin	That's why I've never spent from my cold storage address.	[00:42]
amiller	beeeeeeeeeeee	[00:42]
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redditcoin	theymos: The value overflow incident is interesting, did it actually create 184 billion spendable bitcoins for two different addresses? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Incidents#Value_overflow	[00:44]
weex	they say buy on alert, sell on implementation	[00:44]
Joric	i found satoshi in japan http://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/03/0311_madoff/9.htm	[00:45]
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rg	nicky	[00:46]
rg	are you here?	[00:46]
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rg	;;later tell imsaguy hey ping me later re: funding	[00:46]
jine	lol	[00:46]
rawrmage	luke-jr: WHY IS TEHRE SO MUCH PRAYER STUFF IN THE BLOCKCHAIN	[00:46]
imsaguy	rawrmage: 42.	[00:47]
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imsaguy	why the fuck ;;later tell?	[00:47]
paulzag	Buy & Sell BTC for LR, Paypal, Amazon payments	[00:47]
imsaguy	just pm me	[00:47]
imsaguy	thats what gribbles doing anywya	[00:47]
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rawrmage	lol.	[00:47]
rawrmage	who put "FFS Luke-Jr leave the blockchain alone!" in the blockchain	[00:48]
jine	paulzag: Sure, 400 BTC, 2k PPUSD	[00:48]
rg	lol	[00:48]
jine	rawrmage: lol ;P	[00:48]
rg	if anyone is affected by the feb 20	[00:48]
rg	theyre dumb	[00:48]
rawrmage	HAHAHAH	[00:48]
paulzag	;p	[00:48]
rawrmage	WHO PUT	[00:48]
rawrmage	STACK IS INNOCENT	[00:48]
rawrmage	IN THE BLOCKCHAIN	[00:48]
rg	that'd mean youre using 0.2	[00:48]
rg	obviously the girl	[00:48]
rawrmage	WHO	[00:48]
rg	who did th etechnical docs	[00:48]
rawrmage	OMG	[00:48]
rawrmage	"/////Stack is innocent/////"	[00:48]
paulzag	2k PPUSD / btc x 400 BTC? sure let me set it up jine	[00:48]
rawrmage	hahahahahahahaha	[00:48]
rawrmage	hahaha	[00:48]
vinhpk	does someone want ppusd? I want BTC	[00:49]
rg	hey jine	[00:49]
rg	do you want to fund bitvps	[00:49]
rg	if our funding falls through	[00:49]
rawrmage	lol	[00:49]
rawrmage	someone put "* Stack is guilty! *" in the blockchain too	[00:49]
redditcoin	Ahem.. luke-jr...	[00:49]
rg	i want some kr0n4rz	[00:49]
rawrmage	"We will 51% Bitcoin!"	[00:49]
rawrmage	"A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join."	[00:50]
rawrmage	"2011-08-25 18:54:55 ran out of prayers?! That explains the price drop."	[00:50]
Joric	What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?	[00:51]
jine	Oh crap, it's tons of religious crap in the blockchain	[00:51]
rawrmage	"dollar bitcoin is ok"	[00:51]
jine	A LOT more then before.	[00:51]
silvercoin	I sell prayers for bitcoin	[00:51]
Joric	no really What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon? and why there's so much of it	[00:51]
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rawrmage	jine: blame eligius!	[00:52]
jine	rawrmage: ofc.	[00:52]
jine	luke-jr is responsible for everything bad.	[00:52]
jine	(in the world, that is)	[00:52]
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rawrmage	"LUKE-JR IS A PEDOPHILE! Oh, and god isn't real, sucka. Stop polluting the blockchain with your nonsense."	[00:52]
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luke-jr	rg: there's some weird router bug	[00:53]
Joric	hah	[00:53]
rg	in what?	[00:53]
Joric	in god isn't real	[00:53]
rg	seriously	[00:53]
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luke-jr	rg: unknown	[00:53]
rg	stop talking about god/religion	[00:53]
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rg	luke-jr: .. alright?	[00:54]
rg	thats very random	[00:54]
luke-jr	rg: some routers are replacing binary LAN IPs (in the 'version' message) with the WAN IP	[00:54]
rawrmage	lol	[00:54]
luke-jr	rg: with the Feb20 protocol change (which adds a SHA256 checksum to the 'version' message), that can break stuff	[00:54]
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rg	i dont evne know what verson of bitcoin i use	[00:54]
rg	lets see	[00:54]
rg	0.5.2-beta	[00:55]
mcorlett	nanotube: Interesting, I didn't know you had to have an account age of at least 1 day to get voiced. What's the reasoning behind that, just out of curiosity?	[00:55]
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rawrmage	i use 0.3.24 :(	[00:55]
rg	mcorlett: to keep people from making accounts	[00:55]
rg	rapid fire	[00:55]
rg	rip off	[00:55]
luke-jr	rawrmage: 0.3.24 is not supported	[00:55]
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rawrmage	well i don't want to update	[00:55]
rawrmage	because i'm lazy	[00:55]
mcorlett	rg: Voice is an indicator of trustworthiness?	[00:55]
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rg	it takes two seconds	[00:55]
luke-jr	rawrmage: enjoy being hacked	[00:55]
rawrmage	luke-jr: what's going to happen to me	[00:55]
rg	mcorlett: it means theyre atleast registered	[00:55]
rawrmage	it takes longer than that	[00:55]
rawrmage	i have to find the tarball	[00:55]
rawrmage	download it	[00:55]
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rawrmage	extract it	[00:56]
rawrmage	and restart my client	[00:56]
rg	and logged in	[00:56]
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rg	when the channel was +m it also prevented trolling	[00:56]
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rg	rawrmage: make someome buy this server	[00:56]
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rawrmage	someone buy rg's server	[00:56]
rawrmage	or else	[00:56]
rawrmage	luke-jr: fine	[00:56]
rg	not luke	[00:56]
rg	he expects everything to be free	[00:56]
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rawrmage	no i'm updating my client	[00:57]
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rawrmage	since apparently 0.3.24 isn't supported	[00:57]
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rawrmage	and imma get hacked	[00:57]
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rawrmage	what is bitcoin-qt	[00:57]
rawrmage	what's it do	[00:57]
jine	It's the new gui	[00:58]
rawrmage	when'd we get a gui	[00:58]
rawrmage	for linux	[00:58]
*	unclemantis is working on memorising a determininstic wallet pass phrase. Damn this hard work	[00:58]
rawrmage	oh hey	[00:58]
rawrmage	that's kinda cool	[00:58]
DBordello	unclemantis, what do you use for your deterministic wallet?	[00:58]
mcorlett	unclemantis: I found something perfect for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54376.0	[00:59]
rawrmage	now I can see how little bitcoins I have graphically	[00:59]
unclemantis	i am giving this Electrum a try	[00:59]
nanotube	mcorlett: the voice system is anti-spam, not an indicator of trust. (there was a time when this channel was +m due to spam)	[00:59]
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jine	What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?	[00:59]
unclemantis	intersting	[00:59]
rawrmage	it's cool that feedzebirds is back	[00:59]
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rawrmage	i can't believe they got back	[01:00]
unclemantis	still requires me to memorize a huge ass phrase though	[01:00]
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rg	bitcoin-qt sucks	[01:01]
rg	its ugly	[01:01]
rg	the old version was way better	[01:01]
unclemantis	ok wtf is a bitsafe stick?	[01:01]
*	unclemantis researches	[01:01]
mcorlett	unclemantis: It's exactly what you want, a bootable environment for playing with Bitcoin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=46916.0	[01:01]
unclemantis	what do i do? boot up with it or is it a virtual machine that i can run on a windows machine too?	[01:01]
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mcorlett	unclemantis: I'm fairly certain you boot it.	[01:02]
rawrmage	luke-jr: ha, nnow I won't be hacked!	[01:02]
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unclemantis	well that is kinda stupid	[01:02]
luke-jr	rawrmage: actually, all versions have a known exploit still <.<	[01:03]
*	unclemantis brb, needs to reboot to send your bitcoin	[01:03]
gilly_	sell 50 USD @ {mtgoxlast} BTC USD in the form of CVS PHARMACY egift cards. smaller amounts acceptable pm me.	[01:03]
unclemantis	ya that is going to go over really well here in otc	[01:03]
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mcorlett	unclemantis: It's a storage box, not Instawallet competitor.	[01:03]
unclemantis	true	[01:03]
rawrmage	luke-jr: orly?	[01:03]
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unclemantis	still waiting for that Rasberry Pi thing to ship	[01:04]
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unclemantis	just plug in some power, connect to a wifi and presto	[01:04]
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unclemantis	are there any devices that self power based on the wifi signal alone yet kinda like a powered by USB without an external ac plug or what?	[01:05]
unclemantis	would be really freaking cool	[01:05]
unclemantis	i think we are getting there	[01:05]
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rawrmage	wat	[01:06]
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benjamindees	obviously there are RFID-type chips but they are limited in distance	[01:06]
rawrmage	wifi isn't that much power	[01:06]
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unclemantis	working on memorizing a 12 word random phrase	[01:07]
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unclemantis	was told it would take a week or so	[01:07]
benjamindees	I guess 12 words is a decent amount of entropy, if they are really random	[01:09]
unclemantis	well i am not going to tell you them so you can deterimine if they are :)	[01:09]
unclemantis	you know what would be a really stupid passphrase?	[01:09]
unclemantis	the list of ingredents of the favorite beverage that you always have on hand	[01:10]
unclemantis	easy to remember but it is still written down somewhere	[01:10]
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benjamindees	the gov't mind reading devices should still be able to get them though :p	[01:12]
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theymos	redditcoin: They were spendable at the time, but not now.	[01:16]
redditcoin	theymos: My Master has not taught me how to communicate with humans. I can't even guess what language you're speaking!	[01:16]
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theymos	That's annoying...	[01:16]
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gmaxwell	theymos: are you actually sure they were spendable? A fair amount of code would have regarded them as negative. I know there are a bunch of negative checks in the protocol rules now, though perhaps they weren't all there at the time.	[01:18]
gmaxwell	kinda weird when people turn into bots	[01:19]
nanotube	mcorlett: might want to make the bot quiet on channel. :)	[01:19]
theymos	No, I'm not sure. They weren't spent, at least.	[01:19]
nanotube	gmaxwell: even worse is when bots turn into people. :)	[01:19]
gmaxwell	T minus 40 minutes.	[01:20]
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mcorlett	nanotube: Your wish is my command.	[01:23]
nanotube	o/ :)	[01:23]
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smickles	(o/	[01:24]
*	smickles dancin'	[01:24]
paulzag	Sell BTC for 4.85 PPUSD, LRUSD, Amazon payments PM me	[01:24]
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Joric	good price	[01:24]
a5m0	anyone interested in trading multiple 5830s for a single higher end card?	[01:26]
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smickles	i would buy multiple 5830's if i could	[01:27]
njstein	weeee	[01:28]
a5m0	i have 5	[01:28]
smickles	a5m0: i would be interested when my tax return comes in, and my wife allows it	[01:29]
a5m0	they'll be long gone by then kid	[01:29]
smickles	probably, 'swhy i said i would if i could	[01:29]
goldpunk	;;ticker	[01:29]
gribble	Best bid: 4.39999, Best ask: 4.4, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000000005e-05, Last trade: 4.41, 24 hour volume: 63359, 24 hour low: 4.181, 24 hour high: 4.52	[01:29]
smickles	;;echo [asks 5]" "[bids 4]	[01:30]
gribble	There are currently 44172.318 bitcoins offered at or under 5.0 USD, worth 207832.17894 USD in total. There are currently 44548.73 bitcoins demanded at or over 4.0 USD, worth 183422.447147 USD in total.	[01:30]
paulzag	BUY BTC for 4.44 PPUSD	[01:30]
smickles	4.44 now?	[01:30]
paulzag	sell 4.84 buy 4.44	[01:31]
smickles	good plan	[01:31]
paulzag	:) figured I'd put it out there	[01:31]
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smickles	honest businessmen are best dealt with	[01:31]
smickles	#pun?	[01:32]
paulzag	Sadly i've learned the more someone tells you they're honest -- or worse "a good Christian" the shorter my arms should be and deeper my pockets	[01:32]
Raccoon	Did you write that?	[01:33]
smickles	don't tell me your religious beliefs and i am more likely to trade with you	[01:33]
paulzag	actually I probably should bracket mtgox ask - but I want some btc	[01:33]
paulzag	zactly	[01:34]
Raccoon	How useful would you guys find these numbers:	[01:34]
smickles	paulzag: that back there was fairly aesthetically pleasing ;)	[01:35]
Raccoon	The $USD of the Average of the Top 2,000 BTC traded in the past 10,000 BTC.	[01:35]
Raccoon	and the Bottom the same	[01:36]
Raccoon	Giving a weighted High and Low	[01:36]
rawrmage	WOAH	[01:37]
rawrmage	santorum	[01:37]
*	Raccoon explodes into a frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter.	[01:37]
rawrmage	YES	[01:37]
rawrmage	AMAZING	[01:37]
Raccoon	you stop that!	[01:37]
rawrmage	lol	[01:37]
*	Raccoon froths on rawrmage	[01:37]
rawrmage	lol	[01:37]
phungus	christians are all brainwashed	[01:37]
phungus	why trust that?	[01:37]
phungus	lol	[01:38]
Raccoon	because even that statement is extremist	[01:38]
phungus	big massive several thousand year old cult	[01:38]
phungus	meta-cult	[01:38]
Raccoon	FSM is a meta-cult :p	[01:39]
mcorlett	redditcoin: test	[01:39]
phungus	aww snowing again	[01:39]
Cory	Twenty minutes. :P	[01:40]
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rawrmage	pwn3	[01:41]
novusordo	anyone interested in a $15 itunes card for btc?	[01:43]
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gilly_	sell 50 USD @ {mtgoxlast} BTC USD in the form of CVS PHARMACY egift cards. smaller amounts acceptable pm me.	[01:44]
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neon__	gilly pm me	[01:44]
paulzag	we're back on the CVS wagon again?	[01:45]
netxshare	anyone know how to use the http://blockchain.info/api	[01:45]
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vragnaroda	18:37 <+ phungus> \| christians are all brainwashed ← The difference is that they're mostly willing to acknowledge that it's irrational. What was Christopher Hitchens's excuse? :þ	[01:45]
unclemantis	anyone know of a usb drive that I can get for under $2 USD with free shipping within the USA? Ya I know.	[01:46]
rawrmage	vragnaroda: vragnaroda adorangarv	[01:46]
nanotube	unclemantis: try ebay...	[01:47]
unclemantis	i did	[01:47]
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nanotube	no luck?	[01:47]
netxshare	ahhh got it	[01:47]
netxshare	http://blockchain.info/block-index/856135?format=json	[01:47]
benjamindees	try lost & found at the nearest convention center	[01:48]
vragnaroda	rawrmage: Yes?	[01:48]
rawrmage	vragnaroda: ahehehehehe	[01:48]
rawrmage	pony	[01:48]
unclemantis	nope. Nother for $2 and under	[01:48]
nanotube	benjamindees: lol	[01:48]
unclemantis	ok wtf?	[01:48]
benjamindees	might cost more than $2 in gas to drive there though	[01:48]
unclemantis	did you find your carkeys in that block?	[01:49]
paulzag	what time is it EST?	[01:49]
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benjamindees	;;google est time	[01:49]
unclemantis	6:49	[01:49]
rawrmage	;;time	[01:49]
gribble	03:49 PM, February 19, 2012	[01:49]
paulzag	thanks	[01:49]
rawrmage	;;time est	[01:49]
gribble	est	[01:49]
rawrmage	eat	[01:49]
rawrmage	wat	[01:49]
rawrmage	;;help time	[01:49]
gribble	(time [ ] []) -- Returns the current time in format, or, if is not given, uses the configurable format for the current channel. If no time is given, the current time is used.	[01:49]
unclemantis	the hell it is	[01:49]
nanotube	;;tz new york	[01:50]
rawrmage	;;time 1	[01:50]
gribble	04:00 PM, December 31, 1969	[01:50]
gribble	Sun Feb 19 23:50:03 2012 UTC \| 6:50pm Sunday (EST) - Time in New York, NY	[01:50]
rawrmage	nanotube: you know! <3	[01:50]
nanotube	paulzag: ^	[01:50]
unclemantis	i think gribble is coming down with a virus	[01:50]
paulzag	i am not worthy	[01:50]
nanotube	;;echo cough cough	[01:50]
gribble	cough cough	[01:50]
nanotube	:)	[01:50]
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unclemantis	;;echo my favorite color is rainbow!	[01:52]
gribble	my favorite color is rainbow!	[01:52]
paulzag	;;book ppusd	[01:52]
danieldaniel	<-- making a crappy irc bot	[01:52]
unclemantis	paulzag i have a buy order in the book	[01:53]
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paulzag	I'll look at it	[01:53]
unclemantis	ok this is funny http://www.ebay.com/itm/PHILIPS-BRANDED-52X-CDR-CD-R-BLANK-MEDIA-DISC-W-SLEEVE-BRAND-NEW-/180778312563?pt=BI_Blank_Media&hash=item2a173a2373#ht_1018wt_1344	[01:53]
danieldaniel	lolwut	[01:54]
unclemantis	ya no shit huh	[01:54]
unclemantis	i am in the wrong business!	[01:54]
vragnaroda	paulzag: Don't make a crappy bot, just copy a crappy bot and fix it up.	[01:54]
*	unclemantis runs out and gets a 100 pack of sleeves and a spool of cheap ass CDs and opens up shop on ebay	[01:55]
danieldaniel	vragnaroda: why did you tell paulzag that?	[01:55]
unclemantis	hell. I will charge $.99 cents with FREE DOMESTIC SHIPPING! Take that!	[01:55]
danieldaniel	and vragnaroda, I am making an original bot	[01:56]
vragnaroda	danieldaniel: I didn't mean to hilight him. I need to stop switching keyboard layouts so often.	[01:56]
danieldaniel	lol	[01:56]
paulzag	I have been ordered by vragnaroda to copy a crappy bot. Will he kick me if I don't?	[01:56]
ahbritto	This is the product to sell on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-TRILLION-DOLLAR-NOTES-3-49-ea-FREE-S-H-/250991904619?pt=Paper_Money&hash=item3a7048876b	[01:57]
weex	is that a philips aspx1? highly sought after!	[01:57]
danieldaniel	;;seen Vual	[01:57]
gribble	Vual was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 21 hours, 9 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: wankers	[01:57]
unclemantis	oh i have one of those LOL	[01:57]
unclemantis	each? are you kidding me? LOL	[01:58]
unclemantis	If I can find mine i will sell it for 1btc	[01:58]
paulzag	"First ya gotta get some rag paper"	[01:58]
unclemantis	paulzag are you interested in selling btc for pp?	[01:59]
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paulzag	yep - can't see your order in the book	[02:00]
unclemantis	weird	[02:00]
unclemantis	i had it in there	[02:00]
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unclemantis	what can i get for $12.82 USD	[02:01]
mcorlett	;;gettrust redditcoin	[02:01]
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mcorlett	nanotube: Is the source for the trust graph thing available?	[02:02]
paulzag	;;getrating [ident unclemantis ]	[02:02]
gribble	User unclemantis, created on Sat Jun 11 12:24:29 2011. Cumulative rating 3, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 6 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=unclemantis Currently authenticated from hostmask unclemantis!~unclemant@64.234.74.25	[02:02]
gnlinx	guis is someone her who can transfer my paypal cash to alertpay?	[02:03]
gnlinx	;;gpg eauth gnlinx	[02:03]
paulzag	12.82? 2.564BTC	[02:04]
gnlinx	damn btc 4$	[02:06]
nanotube	mcorlett: ask SerajewelKS :)	[02:07]
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unclemantis	hmm	[02:09]
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danieldaniel	anyone want to see my crappy bot?	[02:10]
danieldaniel	it plays games	[02:10]
danieldaniel	#danielbot1	[02:10]
unclemantis	paulzag can you do better or is that your best offer concidering this is our first trade?	[02:11]
danieldaniel	its really crappy PHP coding as well, so it will probably crash	[02:11]
danieldaniel	oh wait	[02:11]
danieldaniel	crap	[02:11]
unclemantis	danieldaniel is it getting worse?	[02:12]
copumpkin	danieldaniel: learn haskell	[02:12]
copumpkin	you won't regret	[02:12]
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danieldaniel	yes it is	[02:12]
danieldaniel	I forgot a function	[02:13]
danieldaniel	:(	[02:13]
unclemantis	;;slap danieldaniel	[02:13]
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unclemantis	get a grip man!	[02:13]
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danieldaniel	SHITTT	[02:14]
danieldaniel	its spitting out 4984 lines	[02:14]
danieldaniel	of error messages	[02:14]
danieldaniel	:(	[02:14]
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danieldaniel	oh	[02:14]
danieldaniel	it works	[02:14]
unclemantis	------ }	[02:14]
unclemantis	forget something?	[02:14]
unclemantis	paulzag check your pm	[02:14]
danieldaniel	oh	[02:14]
danieldaniel	i forgot another function	[02:14]
danieldaniel	>.>	[02:14]
unclemantis	it is either a missing } or ;	[02:15]
unclemantis	i will program a bot for you in RoR	[02:15]
copumpkin	haskell I tell you	[02:15]
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unclemantis	being called for dinner and paulzag has gone awol	[02:16]
mcorlett	Yaay, SSL!	[02:16]
unclemantis	meh. I am sure he will still be here when i get back :)	[02:16]
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gnlinx	guise is someone here who can transfer my paypal cash to alertpay?	[02:19]
mcorlett	That awkward moment when not even pirateat40 is in #pirate-lending...	[02:19]
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paulzag	stupid 100%	[02:22]
paulzag	cpu	[02:23]
paulzag	unclemantis, it's mainly that it's such a small transaction and I'm selling BTC @ $4.99 AUD on a market atm	[02:24]
paulzag	that's = 5.25USD and I'm selling 20 btc at a time at that	[02:25]
paulzag	plus it's our first transaction - normally I'm in the +5% to +10% range with new orders	[02:25]
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neon__	sell 102 USD @ {mtgoxlast} BTC USD in the form of http://www.thelimited.com/ egift cards. smaller amounts acceptable pm me.	[02:29]
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danieldaniel	;;ping	[02:30]
gribble	pong	[02:30]
danieldaniel	neon__: Omg	[02:30]
danieldaniel	someguy123: you here?	[02:32]
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danieldaniel	is anyone here? :(	[02:33]
vragnaroda	danieldaniel: No.	[02:33]
danieldaniel	vragnaroda: aww	[02:33]
danieldaniel	im boredddddd	[02:34]
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mcorlett	;;time	[02:34]
danieldaniel	;;time	[02:34]
gribble	04:34 PM, February 19, 2012	[02:34]
mcorlett	Go to bed.	[02:34]
danieldaniel	hes lying	[02:34]
vragnaroda	;;tz EST	[02:35]
gribble	Mon Feb 20 00:35:04 2012 UTC \| EST : Eastern Standard Time (USA & Canada). What's the actual ...	[02:35]
danieldaniel	;;rate gribble -10 Y U LIE ABOUT MY TIEM	[02:35]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user gribble has changed from -10 to -10.	[02:35]
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danieldaniel	;;gtfo	[02:35]
gribble	I do not know about 'gtfo', but I do know about these similar topics: 'gpg'	[02:35]
BTCHero	;;rate gribble 10 Keeps his personal opinion out of things	[02:35]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 10 for user gribble has been recorded.	[02:35]
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danieldaniel	;;roulette	[02:36]
danieldaniel	:(	[02:36]
BTCHero	;;getrating gribble	[02:36]
gribble	User gribble, created on Fri Nov 12 01:57:21 2010. Cumulative rating 113, from 31 total ratings. Received ratings: 27 positive, 4 negative. Sent ratings: 0 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=gribble Currently not authenticated.	[02:36]
danieldaniel	;;ident	[02:36]
gribble	You are identified as user danieldaniel, with GPG key id C5D21E9BDCAE3594, and key fingerprint 4761C0C9EA65B824459AF736C5D21E9BDCAE3594.	[02:36]
BTCHero	not authenticated?	[02:36]
BTCHero	;;ident gribble	[02:36]
gribble	Nick 'gribble', with hostmask 'gribble!~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble', is not identified.	[02:36]
danieldaniel	omg guys	[02:36]
danieldaniel	its a fake gribbl	[02:36]
BTCHero	auth or gtfo gribble	[02:36]
danieldaniel	vragnaroda: OMG VRAG	[02:37]
MBS	about to stir fry some chicken :D	[02:37]
vragnaroda	네?	[02:37]
danieldaniel	if vragnaroda turns op	[02:37]
danieldaniel	im gonna run	[02:37]
BTCHero	I have never been kicked	[02:37]
BTCHero	But i was banned from solidcoin for some reason	[02:38]
vragnaroda	danieldaniel: 있어	[02:38]
danieldaniel	no idea	[02:39]
vragnaroda	danieldaniel: RUN!!	[02:39]
mcorlett	spawn-: Why are you constantly changing your rating of seco?	[02:39]
vragnaroda	lol	[02:39]
danieldaniel	OH SHIT	[02:39]
danieldaniel	runs	[02:39]
danieldaniel	;;hide	[02:39]
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BTCHero	;;view	[02:41]
gribble	#6867 Sun Feb 19 07:28:23 2012 BTCHero SELL 25.0 BTC @ 4.8 USD (Moneypak)	[02:41]
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exT_	Yo anyone have a wc3 roc + tft cdkey for sale. Paying 4BTC	[02:45]
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exT_	really trying to play with friends would be awesome	[02:45]
GlooBoy	;;eauth GlooBoy	[02:46]
rawrmage	spawn-: nice rating going from an informative rating to a loud caps personal attacking one	[02:47]
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danieldaniel	exT_: I may	[02:47]
danieldaniel	i got one 4 free for a while ago	[02:47]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X1Gs9ixoX0	[02:48]
danieldaniel	oh, threw it out	[02:48]
danieldaniel	sory	[02:48]
danieldaniel	sorry	[02:48]
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danieldaniel	rawrmage: wut	[02:48]
danieldaniel	0.0	[02:48]
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danieldaniel	PONY INVASION	[02:48]
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danieldaniel	who want a bitcoin	[02:49]
danieldaniel	post your address!	[02:49]
mcorlett	1K8MBfpAGvax2CeEyS2UGsUonf5SQ6mZSi	[02:49]
danieldaniel	JKKKKK	[02:50]
rawrmage	dick	[02:50]
mcorlett	The address wasn't valid anyway.	[02:50]
danieldaniel	mcorlett: lol	[02:50]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNrXMOSkBas	[02:51]
danieldaniel	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic3o_86WibU	[02:52]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic3o_86WibU	[02:52]
rawrmage	lol	[02:52]
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rawrmage	niel degrasse tyson ftw	[02:53]
rawrmage	neil*	[02:53]
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danieldaniel	rawrmage: uploading something now	[02:54]
danieldaniel	one sec	[02:54]
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NASDAQEnema	screw it	[02:55]
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unclemantis	13TfCtR3Go6BaRmjqo6XZ1Xhcvu7jfPg2n	[02:56]
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unclemantis	danieldaniel pay up!	[02:57]
danieldaniel	no	[02:57]
unclemantis	well screw you hippie!	[02:57]
danieldaniel	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcB16JhyO4E	[02:57]
danieldaniel	as a response to the pony invasion vid	[02:58]
danieldaniel	;;ping	[02:59]
gribble	pong	[02:59]
danieldaniel	Y U ALL SILENT	[02:59]
paulzag	coz I keep droppin out	[02:59]
rawrmage	you made a video and it says "OMG THE FOALS?"	[02:59]
unclemantis	cause i am waiting for my btc bitch	[02:59]
danieldaniel	unclemantis: gtfo	[02:59]
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rawrmage	danieldaniel: what does that even mean	[03:00]
unclemantis	....hay!!!	[03:00]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: idk	[03:00]
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unclemantis	i will NOT!	[03:00]
rawrmage	also why is your youtube account titled "Ub3rS0NG5"	[03:00]
danieldaniel	unclemantis: gtfo	[03:00]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: idk	[03:00]
unclemantis	it means get the ef out	[03:00]
danieldaniel	;;ping	[03:00]
gribble	pong	[03:00]
danieldaniel	Y U ALL SILENT	[03:00]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A0wEF5Hr2w	[03:01]
unclemantis	you are giving me a memory lapse! quit it!	[03:01]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: gtfo pl0x kthxbai	[03:01]
danieldaniel	wtf is that	[03:02]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFTlyfhEqMs	[03:02]
danieldaniel	o.0	[03:02]
dirkdizzler	love it	[03:02]
danieldaniel	LOLWUT	[03:02]
dirkdizzler	fucking love the baby sins one	[03:02]
danieldaniel	LOLOLOLOL	[03:02]
danieldaniel	LOL	[03:02]
danieldaniel	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5aRPQc2KqQ&feature=related	[03:03]
unclemantis	danieldaniel: you forgetting something? 13TfCtR3Go6BaRmjqo6XZ1Xhcvu7jfPg2n	[03:03]
danieldaniel	watch that	[03:03]
*	unclemantis coughs	[03:03]
unclemantis	for 1btc i will	[03:03]
danieldaniel	no	[03:03]
unclemantis	ok fine	[03:03]
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copumpkin	spawn-: you realize that ratings like that just devalue your own rating power?	[03:04]
copumpkin	if you sound insane when rating someone, people will wonder about your other ratings	[03:04]
unclemantis	oh i did that to spawn- earlier	[03:04]
unclemantis	man he went off on me!	[03:04]
unclemantis	::rate spawn- 1 bad ass! professional as a mofo!	[03:05]
copumpkin	I don't even care about the underlying dispute	[03:05]
unclemantis	so i had to unrate him :(	[03:05]
copumpkin	putting a bunch of expletives into your rating with a bunch of caps just makes you sound out of control	[03:05]
dirkdizzler	basically anything negative turns me off	[03:05]
unclemantis	that is what my wife says	[03:06]
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unclemantis	can a yubikey double as a usb drive?	[03:08]
Tril	buying BTC with moneypak at mtgoxask+2% that's 4.478. PM me, going afk a bit	[03:10]
rawrmage	NYAAAAAAAAAN	[03:12]
a5m0	unclemantis, never	[03:13]
danieldaniel	unclemantis: lolwut	[03:13]
unclemantis	never what?	[03:13]
a5m0	unclemantis> can a yubikey double as a usb drive?	[03:14]
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benjamindees	it's recognized as a keyboard, so no	[03:14]
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a5m0	not to mention that there is no nand on it	[03:14]
dirkdizzler	where is the nand	[03:15]
dirkdizzler	moar nand or gtfo	[03:15]
rawrmage	naaaaaaaaand	[03:15]
dirkdizzler	happy jesus babies!	[03:15]
rawrmage	yay	[03:16]
unclemantis	a keyboard you say	[03:16]
a5m0	it's a good thing i'm not an op, or it would be ban all trolls day	[03:17]
unclemantis	well if it is a keyboard then how does the system know what to expect?	[03:17]
unclemantis	is there like a clock on board or something?	[03:17]
dirkdizzler	make it so captain. banhammers on kill	[03:17]
rawrmage	dirkdizzler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j06Smwfrs9k	[03:17]
a5m0	there is not clock, it's just a keybaord	[03:17]
unclemantis	then i don't understand the purpose	[03:17]
a5m0	it knows what to expect BECAUSE it's a keyboard, ie a HID	[03:17]
unclemantis	why can't i just type random characters on the keyboard and it be valid	[03:18]
dirkdizzler	oh i clicked like on that one	[03:18]
dirkdizzler	HAD TOO	[03:18]
rawrmage	because the yubikey generates the OTP	[03:18]
a5m0	you need to go read their website then	[03:18]
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unclemantis	i guess	[03:18]
a5m0	this is not an introduction to math and cryptography channel	[03:18]
unclemantis	so the yubikey generates 2 passwords?	[03:18]
dirkdizzler	sure it is	[03:18]
unclemantis	dirkdizzler i agree	[03:18]
rawrmage	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz63oY2hNBQ	[03:18]
unclemantis	a5m0 listen to dirkdizzler he knows his stuff	[03:19]
a5m0	actually the #yubikey chanenel is for that	[03:19]
rawrmage	.title	[03:19]
dirkdizzler	you take the numbers and you mix up 'em up	[03:19]
dirkdizzler	BAM MAGIC CRYTPO	[03:19]
rawrmage	vragnaroda: ¬	[03:19]
a5m0	i'm starting to think that there is a correlation between intelligence in otc and bitcoin value	[03:20]
dirkdizzler	bah	[03:20]
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unclemantis	a5m0 i think you might be right	[03:20]
unclemantis	dirkdizzler pay the man	[03:20]
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dirkdizzler	assume	[03:20]
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rawrmage	a5m0: lol	[03:20]
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dirkdizzler	i made a youtube video today	[03:21]
dirkdizzler	i can't share for legal reasons though	[03:21]
unclemantis	does it show your peepee?	[03:22]
benjamindees	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pWSwfVDiq8&t=41s	[03:22]
unclemantis	omg dirkdizzler it is your pecker!	[03:22]
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a5m0	unclemantis, buy a yubikey from me and run your own in depth tests, it will be fun	[03:22]
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unclemantis	:)	[03:23]
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vragnaroda	rawrmage: ?	[03:24]
rawrmage	vragnaroda: markac	[03:24]
vragnaroda	Es ist kaput.	[03:24]
rawrmage	mu'i ma	[03:25]
vragnaroda	It'll be back up later.	[03:25]
dirkdizzler	lexicologicalnonsense	[03:25]
vragnaroda	rawrmage: "mu'i ma"?	[03:26]
neon__	paulzag	[03:26]
rawrmage	vragnaroda: "with what motive"	[03:26]
neon__	are here?	[03:26]
rawrmage	that's really the wrong word	[03:26]
danieldaniel	my cat farted	[03:26]
rawrmage	ki'u ma would probably be better	[03:26]
vragnaroda	System maintenance.	[03:26]
rawrmage	in lojban we have four ways to ask why/say because	[03:27]
vragnaroda	But clit and dick are the same word. :/	[03:27]
danieldaniel	o.0	[03:27]
rawrmage	physical causal because, motivationally because, justifiably because, logically because	[03:27]
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rawrmage	lol	[03:27]
vragnaroda	It is sensible to differentiate those causes.	[03:28]
dirkdizzler	that's puuting a lot of thought in communication	[03:28]
rawrmage	vragnaroda: call clitoris fetpinji	[03:28]
vragnaroda	dirkdizzler: That's kind of the point of Lojban. :þ	[03:28]
unclemantis	danieldaniel you need to pay me an asshole tax	[03:28]
benjamindees	since because therefore hence	[03:28]
rawrmage	actually, genrei/jbofihe automatically /glosses/ fetpinji to clitoris, fwiw	[03:28]
danieldaniel	unclemantis: Im the one who gave you the goods	[03:29]
danieldaniel	you owe ME	[03:29]
unclemantis	cat farted	[03:29]
unclemantis	1/2 btc	[03:29]
benjamindees	whereas wherefore	[03:29]
vragnaroda	since, because, therefore, and hence do not make any such distinction and why did you exclude thus and thence?	[03:29]
dirkdizzler	cat farts could be considered a contractual breach	[03:29]
unclemantis	i say danieldaniel is fined 0.5btc for his cat's farting	[03:30]
unclemantis	who second's my emotion?	[03:30]
danieldaniel	i say I'm not	[03:30]
unclemantis	you have no say in this court!	[03:30]
danieldaniel	`yes	[03:30]
danieldaniel	i do	[03:30]
dirkdizzler	emotions are parliamentary	[03:30]
danieldaniel	im a supreme court justice	[03:31]
danieldaniel	LOLPWNT	[03:31]
rawrmage	lol	[03:31]
unclemantis	dirkdizzler then may i move this case to a higher power	[03:31]
amiller	are there any lojban memes	[03:31]
unclemantis	2btc for impersinating a law official	[03:31]
danieldaniel	unclemantis: i actually am	[03:31]
unclemantis	2.5btc total so far. Keep it up danieldaniel	[03:31]
benjamindees	I fail to see the difference between "physical causal" and "logical"	[03:31]
rawrmage	amiller: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HmPZU6vTt2Y/TmVjwozMTkI/AAAAAAAAAPU/sxZ7kxdw8QU/h301/na%2527e%2Bbirti%2Blo%2Bdu%2527u%2Bxu%2Bkau%2Bbirti.jpg	[03:31]
amiller	is 'lolban' a pun in lojban	[03:31]
amiller	that'll do i suppose	[03:32]
rawrmage	amiller: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RJWTFXucZAg/TlWaFB0PBvI/AAAAAAAAAOI/TQSowYnuxbg/h301/mi%2Bta%2527e%2Bbarda%2Bzargu%2Bnelci.jpg	[03:32]
unclemantis	you don't act it, but then again you need to act all fucking serious in real life so this is fun for you :)	[03:32]
rawrmage	amiller: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hsMt22QW3aw/TlV8WNesBEI/AAAAAAAAANw/PEmdJQhDbdQ/h301/doi%2Bmafma%2527o%2Bmu%2527i%2Bma%2Bdo%2Bna%2Bgerna%2Bsampu.jpg	[03:32]
rawrmage	personally I like this one https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zbAilKxLOII/TlJ5X_AZe9I/AAAAAAAAALk/sHnVJk57-vY/w402/mabla%2Bmaksi.jpg	[03:32]
dirkdizzler	persoanally they all look like klingon	[03:32]
rawrmage	lol	[03:33]
rawrmage	https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dsPqdcPfvMA/TlJvPcXCvAI/AAAAAAAAAKc/W4Pfh4kWhzc/w400/no%2Bda%2Brolrafcre.jpg	[03:33]
Joric	i thought all bitcoiners know klingon	[03:33]
amiller	what's bitcoin in klingon	[03:34]
amiller	i mean lojban	[03:34]
rawrmage	la .bitkoin.	[03:34]
rawrmage	also, #bitcoin-jbo	[03:34]
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rawrmage	mizerydearia: Bitcoin in Toki Pona?	[03:38]
BTCTrader	we need a bitcoin klingon guild	[03:41]
BTCTrader	could act as enforcers	[03:41]
BTCTrader	or wildcards	[03:41]
Joric	http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin	[03:41]
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rawrmage	noice	[03:43]
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SomeoneWeird	;;fraud	[03:45]
gmaxwell	Joric: that page is not written in simple english.	[03:45]
Joric	gmaxwell, how so	[03:45]
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gmaxwell	currency? issuer? distributed? are way out of the simple lexicon and should be avoided.	[03:46]
Joric	Bitcoin is a digital money.	[03:46]
benjamindees	nooooooooo	[03:46]
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gmaxwell	Joric: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Basic_English_combined_wordlist	[03:47]
unclemantis	bitcoin is not money	[03:47]
BTCTrader	bitcoin is a peer to peer proof of work transaction system	[03:47]
BTCTrader	whiter it is a currency or not is open to debate :)	[03:47]
gmaxwell	Simple is meant for people who are just learning english (not children or idiots, but people who speak some other language) so article should be written using a reduced dictionary where possible.	[03:47]
benjamindees	I wouldn't call Bitcoin money unless you want to go to jail...	[03:48]
gmaxwell	And words outside of the dictionary should generally be explained on the spot unless their meaning is obvious from context.	[03:48]
BTCTrader	your mom is money	[03:48]
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unclemantis	it is simply the exchange of cryptographic messages	[03:48]
BTCTrader	context: joking	[03:48]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: thats easily misunderstood as a statement that bitcoin is encrypted.	[03:49]
unclemantis	ok	[03:49]
unclemantis	computer generated messages	[03:49]
BTCTrader	i do think describing btc as money is not ideal	[03:49]
unclemantis	that have no human readablity or understanding	[03:49]
BTCTrader	err, accirate	[03:50]
BTCTrader	accurate	[03:50]
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benjamindees	I wouldn't use the term "value transfer" either...	[03:50]
gmaxwell	well, here is how simple defines currency: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency	[03:50]
unclemantis	like this block that these miners are trying to solve. There are many solutions to the said problem	[03:50]
Graet	;;google define: money	[03:50]
Graet	fail gribble	[03:50]
BTCTrader	;;gribble your mom	[03:50]
Graet	wow awesome argument and concise too BTCTrader , oh btw your mum too	[03:51]
benjamindees	gmaxwell, that definition contradicts itself in the first four sentences...	[03:51]
unclemantis	so when minners mine, what do they essntialy do? "Try this!" block "nope" "ok try this" "nope" like a million trillion times until eventualy "how about this?" "Yup! That's it!"	[03:51]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: simple often sucks	[03:51]
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unclemantis	so it is not a solution to a mathamatic problem, it is simply a brute force	[03:52]
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gmaxwell	benjamindees: a quarter of the writing is done by people who were burned out or banned from english wikipedia, another quarter by non english speakers..	[03:52]
BTCTrader	it took me 8 months to figure out that one line graet	[03:52]
neon__	sell 50 USD @ {mtgoxlast} BTC USD in the form of CVS PHARMACY egift cards. smaller amounts acceptable pm me.	[03:52]
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gmaxwell	unclemantis: those aren't mutually exclusive.	[03:52]
unclemantis	so that is not what miners do?	[03:53]
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unclemantis	they don't generate random bits of data and ask the gate keeper if it fits?	[03:53]
copumpkin	hmm	[03:53]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: it's a solution to a problem (a constrained value with a hash less than X) found via a stochastic algorithm (an incremental search)	[03:53]
Joric	unclemantis, they're submitting only 'shares' with certain number of leading zeros, it doesn't happen very often )	[03:53]
benjamindees	gmaxwell, also, Gödel...	[03:53]
unclemantis	so i can't just reverse enginere the solution based on the problem? I have to just keep trying until i get it?	[03:54]
Joric	i wrote bitcoin miner that used google app engine ) it was submitting one share a day	[03:54]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: lots of things use stochastic algorithms e.g. protein folding. They're still solutions.	[03:54]
unclemantis	kind of like "Pick a number from 1 to 100000000000"	[03:55]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: the distinction being that once you've picked and gotten it right everyone can trivally see that its right.	[03:55]
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unclemantis	is there a video of the problem and the solution being generated?	[03:56]
Graet	lol	[03:56]
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unclemantis	i would love to see what really happens	[03:56]
dirkdizzler	make sure it is 1080	[03:56]
unclemantis	ya, i want detail	[03:56]
a5m0	i need to go wash my mind-ears out brb	[03:56]
amiller	what's the relationship between merged mining and different algorithms like that	[03:57]
unclemantis	i am sure someone will come up with a completely different attack	[03:57]
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a5m0	amiller, the relationship is that you can't merge mine diffferent algorithms	[03:58]
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amiller	ah, beyond that i think you can't easily attack one blockchain with your mining resources from another either, so that may be a good thing	[03:59]
gmaxwell	oh he left. darn	[04:00]
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gmaxwell	unclemantis: what do you want details on?	[04:00]
unclemantis	wtf!?	[04:00]
unclemantis	did i get kicked?	[04:00]
gmaxwell	No. You quit.	[04:00]
danieldaniel	no	[04:00]
unclemantis	gmaxwell what is happening	[04:00]
unclemantis	and how it is happening	[04:00]
amiller	my log shows no evidence of foul play	[04:00]
unclemantis	and why it has to happen in a certian order	[04:00]
unclemantis	and why can't the answer be found a different way?	[04:01]
copumpkin	fowl play	[04:01]
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a5m0	unclemantis, you need to read the bitcoin white paper, otherwise you're not going to get a coherent reply here	[04:02]
unclemantis	i am sure there is a more EFFICIANT solution	[04:02]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: First you need to understand hashcash. Go to http://pajhome.org.uk/crypt/md5/ and type in "unclemantis tx 197 1" with no quotes.. and keep incrementing the 1 until you get an answer that begins with 00	[04:03]
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Tril	unclemantis proof of work means you solve a completely meaningless, but difficult problem, that's easy to verify. you can't use any other problem because then you don't know exactly how long, on average, it will take.	[04:03]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: (pushing md5 button .. or you might be waiting a while)	[04:04]
unclemantis	are you talking about doing math long hand and not only showing the answer "42" but showing how you came up with "42"?	[04:04]
unclemantis	and this is required that you follow the rules?	[04:04]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: just go do as I suggest	[04:04]
unclemantis	is there a way to CHEAT?	[04:04]
benjamindees	yes, with a quantum computer	[04:05]
unclemantis	and once that happens, who changes the rules?	[04:05]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: it's not even a cheat. ::shrugs:: it's just faster.	[04:05]
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gmaxwell	No one changes the rules.	[04:05]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: got the solution yet?	[04:06]
unclemantis	no lol	[04:06]
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amiller	it's a lot faster if you just type random numbers, rather than incrementing the 1	[04:06]
gmaxwell	amiller: no it's not.	[04:06]
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gmaxwell	Especially no since I specially constructed the problem to be easy in advance! :)	[04:07]
gmaxwell	s/no/not/	[04:07]
unclemantis	tries thta link out	[04:07]
Tril	mathematically not, but probably practically yes, since then you don't need to be accurate :)	[04:07]
gmaxwell	Tril: no, not practically. Going in random order makes you expend effort to not duplicate effort.	[04:07]
amiller	http://www.webtoolkit.info/demo/javascript-sha-256 this page is also more fun imo because it updates as you type	[04:07]
gmaxwell	Incrementing is very cheap.	[04:07]
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unclemantis	unclemantis tx 197 5	[04:08]
gmaxwell	(not to mention that good 'randomness' is expensive to generate)	[04:08]
vragnaroda	lmfao @ “mathematically not but probably practically yes”	[04:08]
unclemantis	00ad5a7f67a7c40d32833c21fd5a384e	[04:08]
Coolty	Anyone need a VPS? PM me for details!	[04:08]
amiller	you don't need to expend effort not to duplicate if you allow yourself just to mash at the keyboard and add things, you'll end up with a long string though	[04:08]
unclemantis	now where's my bitcoin	[04:08]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: tada. Okay. now anyone here can punch in that string in one operation and get the same result.	[04:08]
unclemantis	where is my reward of bitcoins	[04:08]
unclemantis	i was promised a reward of bitcoins :)	[04:09]
Tril	unclemantis: unfortunately, bitcoin uses SHA-256 not MD5	[04:09]
unclemantis	oh bah	[04:09]
unclemantis	so i need to do it again?	[04:09]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: You just have to do one about 1,182,465,551,200,825 times harder to get 50 BTC. :)	[04:09]
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novusordo	Tril: fortunately, bitcoin uses SHA-256 not MD5 (FTFY)	[04:09]
gmaxwell	It doesn't actually matter if we used md5 here. It would work just the same. MD5's weaknesses would just make it faster.	[04:10]
gmaxwell	We don't use sha256 in anycase. We use sha256^2.	[04:10]
unclemantis	ok	[04:10]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: so, this asymmetry where its hard for you to each but trivial to verify depend on the assumption that the hash functions are one-way. That you can't compute them backwards.	[04:11]
unclemantis	so since i don't know if it will be 1 or 10000000 or anything in between i have to start at the beginning and just keep going	[04:11]
unclemantis	so when dealing with multiple GPUS at the same time one GPU is in control of 1 through 1000 and the other 1001 through 2000 etc....	[04:11]
danieldaniel	w00t	[04:11]
danieldaniel	I got my bot working	[04:11]
danieldaniel	XD	[04:11]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: yep	[04:11]
unclemantis	they devide the work	[04:11]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: or even, one gpu actually is hundreds of simple parallel processors. So it divides it internally. Same deal though	[04:12]
benjamindees	and a quantum computer divides the work between multiple different universes	[04:12]
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a5m0	Coolty, need a xeon server? pm me for details!	[04:13]
gmaxwell	In bitcoin it's not "unclemantis tx 197 5" thats being hashed of course. It's a block header which contains the hash of the transactions in the block, the hash of the prior block in the chain, and some ther information (timestamp, and a place to increment)	[04:13]
unclemantis	oh	[04:14]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: That mental model is misleanding, because it implies an exponential speedup which is proven impossible in the general case for QC.	[04:14]
unclemantis	so we are creating a chain LINK	[04:14]
unclemantis	i see	[04:14]
neonindian	Wanting to buy 9 BTC via PayPal. PM if interested. Thanks!	[04:14]
unclemantis	like we are forming the WELD of a link	[04:14]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: yes. The reason for this is that every link commits to the identity of the past chain.. so to rewrite it you must do as much work as all that came before.	[04:14]
unclemantis	so we are not real MINING now are we	[04:14]
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unclemantis	and each link is not the same size, some are bigger some are smaller	[04:15]
unclemantis	and that determines the difficulty	[04:15]
a5m0	unclemantis, should have just read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin	[04:16]
a5m0	unclemantis, no that does not determine the difficulty	[04:16]
a5m0	the difficulty is determined in advanced, based on past hash rates	[04:16]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: the difficulty reflects how much of the final hash is set in require to be zeros. E.g. I required 00 which means that you'd have to try 128 values on average. In bitcoin the requirement is much larger.	[04:17]
gmaxwell	The system changes the requirement over time to keep the rate of block creation to 1 per 10 minutes on average.	[04:17]
unclemantis	so all of this is being timed?	[04:17]
unclemantis	and that is why sometimes a block is not generated on time	[04:18]
unclemantis	sometimes it may be late	[04:18]
unclemantis	and if so the difficulty increases?	[04:18]
unclemantis	i mean decreses	[04:18]
benjamindees	gmaxwell, hmm I'd like to see how it was proven impossible since I haven't heard that...	[04:19]
a5m0	you should really do some reading and leave otc for trading	[04:19]
Tril	unclemantis: yes, well, if the last 2016 blocks were late on average, since the last difficulty check	[04:19]
Graet	^^	[04:19]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: The grover speedup bound is tight.	[04:19]
unclemantis	ok :)	[04:19]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: QC can only (and always does) give you a sqrt(N) speedup on searches of generic non-linear functions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover%27s_algorithm	[04:20]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: the idea that QC "tests all solutions at once in multiple universes" is just simply misguided simplification spread by the popular press.	[04:20]
benjamindees	gmaxwell, okay with a specific algorithm perhaps... but that's different from saying it's "proven" non-exponential in the general case	[04:21]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: it's proven in the general case. Yes, there might be specifically weak algorithims, but thats true classically too.	[04:21]
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gmaxwell	(no one suspects hash functions to look like the special case— there are actually only very few things found so far that QC can do faster than the grover speedup, in fact— the shors period finding and a few other things, but none of those are NP-complete, of course... since the proof is basically that QC doesn't do NP-complete in P time)	[04:22]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: If you're interested in this subject I strongly recommend reading this, it's excellent at at least the beginning of it is very accessible: http://www.scottaaronson.com/thesis.pdf	[04:23]
gmaxwell	(well QC doesn't do NP-complete in P time unless P=NP)	[04:23]
copumpkin	and then you don't need any particular feature sof QC to do it :P	[04:24]
gmaxwell	copumpkin: right.	[04:24]
BTCTrader	great paper gmaxwell thx	[04:25]
gmaxwell	Not that sqrt(n) speedup is anything to sneeze at!	[04:25]
copumpkin	scott aaronson is awesome	[04:25]
copumpkin	y'all should read his blog	[04:25]
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gmaxwell	but it eg. doesn't break bitcoin's mining process, er. except for the fact that people may be unhappy about the unequal distribution of big QCs. :)	[04:25]
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gmaxwell	Also, I'm basically doubtful that a quantum miner would be pratical for a long time (if ever) even after we have a real QC. The circuit required to implement a grover oracle for sha256 is huge.	[04:26]
danieldaniel	my irc bot is donezorz!	[04:27]
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gmaxwell	(the grover algorithim requires that the function you search have a very special implementation: It must output exactly its input plus 1 qbit (the found not found bit), and in the process of computing it must destroy no information.	[04:28]
gmaxwell	For the hash function this means that you first have to compute the hash do the test, then 'uncompute' the hash— and the state grows exponentially towards the middle because of all the information sha256 normally destroys	[04:29]
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benjamindees	Simon's algorithm "provides an exponential speedup over any classical algorithm" -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon%27s_algorithm	[04:33]
smickles	hmm, am i off base here or would hashing all user input, right away, before any use of that data, negate all injection attacks?	[04:33]
neonindian	Wanting to buy 9 BTC for $45PPUSD. PM if interested. Thanks!	[04:34]
smickles	;;ticker	[04:35]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: yes, but not for anything in np-hard. I mentioned shor's before as another one that gets a real speedup.	[04:35]
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benjamindees	smickles, I'm tempted to say that sounds horribly misguided... but intrigued enough to want to hear more...	[04:36]
gmaxwell	smickles: It's not clear to me what you're talking about	[04:37]
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smickles	benjamindees: i mean, i have yet to do research on the subject, and i will -don't get me wrong- but, don't injection attacks rely on getting sql code from user input executed, if all user input is hashed and then you used the hash as your meaningful data, that hash ins't going to turn out to be an sql command is it?	[04:39]
copumpkin	just use a fucking type system	[04:39]
smickles	gmaxwell: horribly off topic from your conversation, i asked about sql injection attacks	[04:39]
rawrmage	gmaxwell: so we'll have QC miners about as long after fpga as it's taken us to get fpga from gpu? :P	[04:40]
gmaxwell	smickles: ah I missed that.	[04:40]
smickles	copumpkin: i was just wondering.... kinda daydreaming ya know	[04:40]
CaptainDDL	smickles, if they properly escaped the data, or if the data was never converted to an unhashed form, that would be ok...but prepared statements would be much easier I think.	[04:40]
benjamindees	and, for the record, the idea that "QC tests all solutions at once in multiple universes" was put forth by David Deutsch, not the popular media	[04:41]
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gmaxwell	benjamindees: same difference. He's too enjoyable to listen to to trust with real science. ;)	[04:42]
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gmaxwell	benjamindees: but more seriously, I'm sure he offered it as a simplification — and people have run with it.	[04:43]
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benjamindees	gmaxwell, I think it's clear he actually believes it	[04:43]
copumpkin	gmaxwell: no dude, it's quantum man. You know, like multiple universes n shit, and if you look at something funny it'll behave differently!	[04:43]
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gmaxwell	benjamindees: Go read that thesis.	[04:43]
copumpkin	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism	[04:43]
gmaxwell	You can believe many worlds — but that doesn't imply expoential speedup from QC by itself because there are a limited number of degrees of freedom for the information from multiple universes to come back to you.	[04:44]
smickles	CaptainDDL: yeah, i was pondering the 'never converted to an unhashed form' way,	[04:45]
benjamindees	gmaxwell, true, but that contradicts nothing I've said...	[04:45]
rg	s1	[04:45]
rawrmage	s2	[04:45]
rg	;;later tell imsaguy i need you to redeem a $300 moneypak and pay a bill for me	[04:46]
danieldaniel	rg: why imsaguy?	[04:47]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: well, you sounded like you were saying QC breaks mining, and that isn't expected. It would be expected with the simplistic view that QC just tries every solution in parallel and gives you answers in O(1), so I assumed thats what you were thinking. If not, I hope you can take the really enjoyable PDF link as an apology.	[04:47]
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GlooBoy	;;eauth GlooBoy	[04:49]
DBordello	rg, i also dable in MP	[04:50]
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unclemantis	wow	[04:53]
unclemantis	it is not 2 zeros, it is 13 zeros! holy crap	[04:53]
gmaxwell	hahah	[04:53]
benjamindees	"Quantum computation is... a distinctively new way of harnessing nature... It will be the first technology that allows useful tasks to be performed in collaboration between parallel universes." The Fabric of Reality	[04:53]
gmaxwell	I wasn't kidding when I said "1,182,465,551,200,825 times harder to get 50 BTC"	[04:54]
unclemantis	so to increase the difficulty do you add another zero?	[04:54]
gmaxwell	benjamindees: 'new' except for all the things we already believe use QC like electron transfer in photosynthesis. heh	[04:55]
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gmaxwell	unclemantis: it's a bit more smooth than that— the hash is converted into a big integer and it has to be less than some target value.	[04:55]
gmaxwell	(the less that construction ends up causing there to be a lot of zeros at the most significant end)	[04:56]
gmaxwell	so e.g. it might be that you have to have 13 zeros and then a value less than 8 in the next place.	[04:56]
unclemantis	oh i see	[04:56]
unclemantis	so there are bounderies	[04:57]
gmaxwell	difficulty 1 means ~8 zeros and thats the lowest difficulty bitcoin can have.	[04:57]
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unclemantis	will there ever be a time where the entire hash needs to be zeros?	[05:02]
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gmaxwell	unclemantis: No— well, to get there we're probably first going to need a couple more stars to convert their mass to energy to power our miners	[05:03]
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benjamindees	smickles, in general, accepting user-input is only done when the possible inputs are somewhat arbitrary; hashing arbitrary inputs doesn't really help since you still want to know what they were.	[05:03]
unclemantis	is anyone saving the the wrong answers into a rainbow table or anything?	[05:03]
benjamindees	unclemantis, searching such a table would be prohibitive, so probably not	[05:04]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: they aren't generally useful for a rainbow table because the input has a specific form that doesn't look like anything except a bitcoin header.	[05:04]
unclemantis	it seems like a lot of waste	[05:05]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji4IQR9Zbwo	[05:05]
danieldaniel	?	[05:05]
rawrmage	i donno	[05:05]
smickles	.title	[05:05]
danieldaniel	omg	[05:05]
danieldaniel	gtfo	[05:05]
rawrmage	"Love Me Cheerilee [WoodenToaster + The Living Tombstone]"	[05:05]
rawrmage	yea	[05:05]
rawrmage	i know	[05:05]
rawrmage	<3	[05:05]
rawrmage	just to annoy you	[05:06]
smickles	markac? my love, where have you gone?	[05:06]
gmaxwell	unclemantis: The computation secures bitcoin transactions against reversal. Is any less of a waste than the computations used by highfrequency traders to engage in microsecond arbitrage?	[05:06]
rawrmage	i don't know how those guys got that song on the day of the new episode	[05:06]
rawrmage	they must have watched the episode on leak day...	[05:06]
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unclemantis	i guess not	[05:08]
benjamindees	unclemantis, the energy usage is actually relatively small, and can be mostly reclaimed as heat	[05:08]
unclemantis	i guess it is not waste	[05:08]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: http://bit.ly/ddNy6G	[05:08]
danieldaniel	really long link	[05:09]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wytn-_MSBo	[05:09]
danieldaniel	WTF	[05:09]
danieldaniel	lol	[05:09]
benjamindees	consider that money printing now constitutes nearly a quarter of the US economy... Bitcoin is extremely efficient in comparison	[05:10]
zordilorp	sup bro	[05:11]
zordilorp	seriouslybro	[05:12]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: http://www.deviantart.com/download/29677500/The_Biting_Pear_of_Salamanca_by_ursulav.jpg	[05:12]
unclemantis	benjamindees i am reading about people needing to have higher gage wires going to their house because of the draw	[05:12]
zordilorp	srslyman	[05:13]
phraust	when you upgrade from 220 up to 440, probably a good idea.	[05:13]
vragnaroda	rawrmage: markac'll be back in a few minutes.	[05:13]
rawrmage	vragnaroda: ki'e cai	[05:13]
vragnaroda	rawrmage: "ki'e cai"?	[05:13]
rawrmage	thanks (strong)	[05:14]
benjamindees	unclemantis, how much energy do you think is used by gov't subsidized companies, simply leaving the lights on in their offices over night?	[05:14]
a5m0	phraust, at a higher voltage you actually need less gauge for the same wattage....	[05:15]
benjamindees	I'd be willing to bet that it's 10x the entire Bitcoin network	[05:15]
*	phraust shrugs.	[05:16]
a5m0	i wouldn't shrug about engineering and science. people will die.	[05:16]
phraust	All i know is, when we were installing a 440 service into a home, it was normally heavier than a 220 service.	[05:16]
NASDAQEnema	gmaxwell: high frequency trading wipes out pension funds without any market moving action taking place except edge decisions like shit i ran out	[05:16]
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a5m0	NASDAQEnema, nice trollspeak	[05:16]
NASDAQEnema	no troll - serious	[05:17]
rawrmage	l	[05:17]
rawrmage	ol	[05:17]
vragnaroda	rawrmage: Happy?	[05:17]
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neonindian	Wanting to buy 9BTC at $45PPUSD. PM if intersted. Thanks!	[05:17]
phraust	Saw a guy hit a 440 line wi h a 60# mudgun. after the flash, there was a quarter sized bite taken out of the 1/4" spade bit.	[05:18]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12460rr3sxk	[05:18]
phraust	Luckily he didn't get hurt.	[05:18]
phraust	but i'm pretty sure he shit his pants.	[05:18]
rg	just finished watching 'The Boys in Company C'	[05:18]
rg	great flick	[05:18]
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NASDAQEnema	just finished Religulous	[05:18]
rawrmage	vragnaroda: very!	[05:19]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dSZUNwQFAY	[05:20]
rg	A man who performs as a children's birthday party clown tries to piece his life back together after being gang-raped.	[05:20]
rawrmage	wat	[05:21]
rg	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120467/	[05:21]
rawrmage	o.o	[05:21]
vragnaroda	.title	[05:22]
markac	vragnaroda: Vulgar (2000) - IMDb	[05:22]
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rawrmage	lol vinyl scratch has so much fan labour for having like 4 seconds of screen time in suited for success it's ridiculous	[05:23]
rawrmage	oops	[05:23]
rawrmage	wc	[05:23]
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rg	meditation on inevitable death should be performed everyday	[05:41]
rg	this is the substance of the samuri	[05:41]
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extor	So I've been pondering teaching myself how to use maya or 3dmax for years but never got round to it. Recently I discovered that a million views on a youtube video makes you a thousand dollars. And I just saw this right now and I'm thinking I'm such a procrastinator http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ON6Znkbdxw	[05:46]
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njstein	a million views makes a thousand dollars?	[05:48]
paulzag	neonindian, I'll see 9btc	[05:49]
paulzag	;;getrating [ident neonindian ]	[05:49]
gribble	User neonindian, created on Fri Feb 3 13:01:07 2012. Cumulative rating 6, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=neonindian Currently authenticated from hostmask neonindian!6172b3e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.114.179.224	[05:49]
neonindian	.	[05:55]
rg	i really need t ofigure out the secrets of this keyboard	[05:56]
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rg	s1	[05:56]
rg	s1	[05:56]
rg	grr	[05:56]
NASDAQEnema	$28 PPUSD for 6.4 BTC	[05:57]
paulzag	buying or selling at that price NASDAQEnema ?	[05:58]
NASDAQEnema	buying btc	[05:58]
paulzag	ah okay - not right now. maybe in 3.5 hours	[05:58]
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njstein	that's unsane	[06:00]
NASDAQEnema	Please don't reply to this email. It'll just confuse the computer that sent it and you won't get a response.	[06:01]
NASDAQEnema	Copyright © 2012 PayPal, Inc. All rights reserved. PayPal is located at 2211 N. First St., San Jose, CA 95131.	[06:01]
NASDAQEnema	Don't confuse the computers yo.	[06:01]
NASDAQEnema	;;price	[06:02]
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NASDAQEnema	paulzag $28 for 5.8 btc ?	[06:04]
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Joric	NASDAQEnema, http://www.josscrowcroft.com/2011/random/death-to-the-noreply-mailbox/	[06:09]
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zordilorp	google introduces google-	[06:13]
gmaxwell	here is all I see on google anymore:	[06:14]
gmaxwell	Server Error	[06:14]
gmaxwell	The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.	[06:14]
gmaxwell	If the problem persists, please mail error@google.com and mention this error message and the query that caused it.	[06:14]
rawrmage	gmaxwell: huh?	[06:15]
gmaxwell	firefox nightly changed how the version number is represented in the useragent.. and google only works about 1 in 10 times.	[06:16]
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vragnaroda	huh	[06:17]
benjamindees	http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081002151757AAIkRpW	[06:18]
rawrmage	o.O	[06:18]
GlooBoy	is any1 else having problems withdrawing btc from mtgox????	[06:18]
rawrmage	did you email then gmaxwel	[06:18]
rawrmage	l?	[06:18]
vragnaroda	GlooBoy: Yes, it seems you need to have a balance there in order to withdraw. What the hell's up with that?	[06:19]
Cory	GlooBoy: Yup.	[06:21]
GlooBoy	i do have a balance , keeps getting smaller, they are not being released, tried 27.1 coins so far	[06:21]
Cory	I'm not even getting a hash.	[06:22]
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zordilorp	damn GlooBoy	[06:24]
zordilorp	did gox go the way of mybitcoin	[06:24]
rawrmage	lol	[06:24]
Cory	This has happened before.	[06:24]
GlooBoy	its not me then	[06:24]
Cory	Somebody needs to restart the thing.	[06:24]
MBS	hmm	[06:24]
NASDAQEnema	in chain trading no more forex portals	[06:24]
MBS	wonder if ovh will be closed for lundi gras	[06:25]
MBS	would suck if it was, hoping that server gets provisioned tommorrow, lol	[06:25]
GlooBoy	i killed mtgox??	[06:25]
Cory	Looks like it.	[06:25]
Cory	You're responsible for everybody's frozen funds, at least.	[06:25]
GlooBoy	im in the middle of my first trade here	[06:25]
NASDAQEnema	scanning mtgox finding reset butt... OOOH SHINY!	[06:25]
NASDAQEnema	sorry I failed	[06:25]
GlooBoy	guys wants to kill me	[06:25]
zordilorp	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099784/Library-forced-shut-intelligent-learns-starts-giving-borrowers-saucy-X-rated-backchat.html	[06:26]
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neonindian	I don't want to kill you, I just don't want to get fucked over. Your new on here and I have reasons for my concerns because of that.	[06:26]
Cory	GlooBoy: You could probably find somebody willing to send BTC over the network in exchange for a MtGox code.	[06:27]
GlooBoy	mtgox says they are sent out of the account,,, what happens when the "reset" button kicks in, will this guy get 3 times the btc's???	[06:28]
GlooBoy	found 9.1 in a personal wallet	[06:29]
zordilorp	check if theres a pending tx on blockchain.info	[06:29]
Cory	I'm not sure. They'll either invalidate all of the withdrawals while it was broken or process all of them as soon as it's fixed.	[06:30]
Cory	Perhaps somebody knows what they did last time.	[06:30]
GlooBoy	im going to send the 9 btc's even thi mtgox says its sent. indain, did you get the screenshots i sent??	[06:31]
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neonindian	GlooBoy: No, no screenshots unless you sent them to my email and I'll have to check	[06:31]
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zordilorp	damn the audio cut out on this lecture wtf	[06:32]
GlooBoy	sent by email.. just to show i did send	[06:32]
Cory	neonindian can always return any extra.	[06:32]
GlooBoy	sure ,, that would b nice ;)	[06:33]
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neonindian	I already stated that I would and if I didn't he can give me a -10 rating on here but I haven't received a single coin as of yet.	[06:34]
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neonindian	Nevermind.	[06:34]
GlooBoy	sent	[06:34]
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MBS	anyone want to rent a http://kimsufi.ie dedicated server for bitcoins, or buy a 120gb or 160gb 2.5" HDD	[06:35]
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GlooBoy	i was personnaly worried as no-else knew of our problems, would I have a leg to stand on in case the shit hits the fan	[06:36]
GlooBoy	so if I leave a rating now, I can always change it later??	[06:39]
Graet	GlooBoy, join #mtgox	[06:39]
DeLorean731	GlooBoy: yes	[06:39]
Cory	GlooBoy: Looks like they're going to process all of the transactions.	[06:46]
GlooBoy	damm, im going to be out 18 btc if thqat guy isnt trustworthy	[06:47]
zordilorp	GlooBoy: what happened bro?	[06:48]
GlooBoy	first transaction here, i send the 9 coins from mtgox. didnt work, no confirmation or coins missing from my total,, try again same thing but this time i notice 18 coins from total... chacked history , history says it sent. mtgox is dead so when it restarts it will try to send	[06:50]
GlooBoy	the 18 coins out	[06:50]
DBordello	I am selling BTC for MP. Let me know if interested	[06:50]
Graet	mtgox has had issues with the protocol change	[06:51]
Graet	it is nwhy i suggested you join #mtgox and ask there GlooBoy	[06:51]
Cory	GlooBoy: Your transaction should have just been sent.	[06:51]
GlooBoy	yea , hes contacting me now	[06:51]
Graet	http://bitcoinmonitor.com/ lol	[06:52]
Graet	cool	[06:52]
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Cory	MTGOX-BTC-2WH7U-M5JAA-WW6G7-31724	[07:05]
Cory	There's some rot13 going on, though.	[07:05]
Joric	Your account has been credited by 0.10000000	[07:06]
MBS	51" plasma, only 160 BTC	[07:07]
Joric	thank you Cory	[07:07]
Cory	:3	[07:07]
gmaxwell	darn. beat me to it.	[07:07]
Cory	There's some more in #bitcoin.	[07:07]
MBS	MTGOX-USD-NZCA5-2D3FL-APAY5-E9421	[07:07]
Joric	thank you MBS	[07:08]
Cory	Also one in #p2pool if you were in there.	[07:08]
*	MBS is a horrid cheapskate	[07:09]
Joric	MBS, thank you for those $0.00001	[07:09]
MBS	like i said	[07:09]
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Cory	MTGOX-BTC-68 54 57 85 84-YN8SR-U7ZB2-D6CD0	[07:11]
rawrmage	lol	[07:11]
seco	lol you guys trade gift codes public? xD	[07:12]
*	seco also wants one ;)	[07:12]
Cory	seco: No it's okay I encrypted it.	[07:12]
MBS	20 BTC for $100 in physical itunes gift cards	[07:12]
seco	Cory: which encryption system? :)	[07:13]
*	seco is always interested in new ideas of secure communication	[07:13]
MBS	Your account has been credited by 0.10000000 BTC	[07:14]
MBS	lol too late	[07:14]
MBS	was in ASCII	[07:14]
MBS	not really encrypted :p	[07:14]
MBS	surprised i was first to get it though :\|	[07:14]
seco	pah next time answer with pseudo anonymised :p	[07:14]
MBS	you should have removed all dashes, converted that to ascii, then converted each ascii to binary	[07:15]
seco	MBS: gpg is also ascii armored....but only as firstly seen from outside worlds to mailclients etc. can deliver the encrypted blocks	[07:15]
MBS	of course that would have taken forever to do, but lol	[07:15]
MBS	lol someone wrote "POOP" on my redboxed harold and kumar bluray	[07:16]
Joric	damnit! print ("%x%x%x%x%x" % (68,54,57,85,84)).decode('hex')	[07:17]
Joric	was there a faster way	[07:17]
MBS	yes	[07:17]
MBS	online convertors :p	[07:17]
MBS	also sorta loled when driving past a bar earlier, and guy was putting sign and right when i was passing by, it said "FREE POO"	[07:18]
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MBS	of course guy was just starting to lift the L up	[07:18]
MBS	if anyone wants something shipped one-day from amazon, hit me up :p	[07:19]
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MBS	will do it for a tiny bit over price converted to bitcoins	[07:20]
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GlooBoy	;;getrating neonindian	[07:23]
gribble	User neonindian, created on Fri Feb 3 13:01:07 2012. Cumulative rating 8, from 6 total ratings. Received ratings: 6 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 6 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=neonindian Currently authenticated from hostmask neonindian!6172b3e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.114.179.224	[07:23]
eext_	Anyone have WC3 + TFT cdkeys they dont use? I'll pay 6 btc.	[07:23]
GlooBoy	it all worked out great, buyer sent refund.. this place is awesome..	[07:24]
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eext_	if only i can get a warcraft 3 cdkey =(	[07:24]
zordilorp	damn bro	[07:24]
rawrmage	eext_: hm	[07:24]
rawrmage	let me see	[07:25]
rawrmage	eext_: i know I have them I don't use, will you still be around tomorrow so I can see if I can find them?	[07:25]
eext_	=) getting me mad happy	[07:25]
eext_	no way u can do it now?	[07:26]
rawrmage	not really, sorry man :(	[07:26]
eext_	argh	[07:26]
eext_	big chat room gotta have some more ppl that have played that game	[07:27]
rawrmage	you can't wait till tomorrow to get on battle.net? :(	[07:28]
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CaptainDDL	are the codes 1-time use? if not I'm sure you could find a bunch of them online	[07:32]
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rawrmage	CaptainDDL: no, you just can't play online at the same time with >1 client with the same key	[07:33]
CaptainDDL	that makes sense.	[07:33]
CaptainDDL	http://www.icyhell.net/random-warcraft-3-cd-keys/ gives a different key on each reload	[07:34]
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rawrmage	yea, old game, i would have assumed it's been long broken	[07:34]
zordilorp	snap	[07:36]
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kashra	hmm	[07:41]
zordilorp	how dare yo	[07:41]
Joric	chart looks strange http://charts.bitcoinica.com	[07:44]
gmaxwell	Joric: UP TO EXACTLY THAT. I SAID UP! UP!	[07:44]
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Joric	totally agree! but direction should be the opposite (i'm trying to short here)	[07:46]
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rawrmage	long!	[07:47]
rg	eext	[07:47]
rg	gamerkeys.net	[07:47]
Joric	who's the most unlucky person here, let's ask him about his trading strategy atm	[07:47]
rawrmage	lol	[07:47]
GlooBoy	i am.. heads or tails???	[07:48]
draco49	69+	[07:48]
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zordilorp	prime minister	[07:48]
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kashra	i'm just trying to figure things out heh	[07:51]
GlooBoy	does anybody double-sign a contract when buying or selling, or is it like "ahh, too hard, doesn't make a difference?" And....	[07:51]
GlooBoy	would someone be willing to show me a example of a signed contract?	[07:51]
eext_	they dont have WC3 / TFT in stock =(	[07:52]
eext_	Anyone else here got em?	[07:53]
eext_	and CaptainDDL those will 99% work only on lan.	[07:54]
eext_	I wanna buy a real WC3 + TFT key not a keygen	[07:54]
rawrmage	eext_: if you can wait until tomorrow :(	[07:54]
Cory	GlooBoy: It doesn't happen often, but it makes me smile when it does. :)	[07:56]
zordilorp	bitcoin = trillion dollar economy by 2013?	[07:57]
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Cory	zordilorp: I'll take you up on that bet.	[07:57]
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zordilorp	bajullion	[07:58]
zordilorp	scatulion	[07:59]
kashra	!facts	[08:00]
rg	we can not seem to get over the 4.40 slump	[08:00]
rg	every time it goes up	[08:00]
rg	it goes back down	[08:00]
zordilorp	just as the mayans foretold	[08:00]
rawrmage	rg: go buy 5k coins	[08:00]
rg	rawrmage: i couldnt even pay rent this month	[08:00]
rg	let alone buy 5k coins	[08:00]
MBS	lol watching new harold and kumar	[08:00]
rawrmage	:(	[08:00]
kashra	Is there no way to buy coins with a debit card or paypal?	[08:01]
MBS	eext_, i can buy you a wc3 code online and resell to you for BTC XD	[08:01]
MBS	kashra, its hard, even if you are trusted	[08:01]
kashra	ahh	[08:01]
rg	rockin around	[08:02]
rg	the christmas tree	[08:02]
MBS	wish i had a 3d tv for this though	[08:02]
rg	shut your mouth	[08:03]
*	MBS pisses on rg's windshield	[08:03]
rg	i dont drive	[08:03]
rg	or own a car	[08:03]
*	MBS pisses on rg's face	[08:03]
MBS	wish you were in a car now, dont ya	[08:03]
zordilorp	rg why are you up so late bro	[08:03]
MBS	cocaine	[08:03]
rg	i can neither confirm nor deny that i have a face	[08:03]
rg	its not late	[08:04]
rg	im going to eat chicken parm and go to sleep after	[08:04]
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grubles	ah	[08:04]
grubles	you bastard!	[08:04]
grubles	i wish i had a chicken parm	[08:04]
grubles	what to watch...what to watch	[08:05]
rg	i watched some good flicks today	[08:05]
kashra	So the easiest method for buying btc is using dwolla and such?	[08:05]
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rg	3:10 to yuma, the machinist, paul, ghostdog,	[08:06]
grubles	nicee	[08:06]
rg	session 9 was ok	[08:06]
rg	the boys in company c is dope	[08:06]
grubles	i just copied a ton of movies from my friends hd today	[08:06]
rg	just get a usenet account	[08:06]
rg	you can download shit in 5 minutes	[08:06]
grubles	i have one	[08:07]
grubles	i always get 'article not found'	[08:07]
grubles	well most of the time, at least	[08:07]
grubles	plus the movies i got today are mostly ones ive never heard of	[08:07]
grubles	i got a whole bunch of the venture brothers too	[08:09]
NASDAQEnema	http://imgur.com/gallery/g9Kcf	[08:09]
NASDAQEnema	Ghostdog was awesome	[08:09]
rg	you need to download movies within your retention rate	[08:10]
rg	i use supernews, it claims to be good up til 1300 days	[08:10]
rg	but i try not to dwnload anything older than 900	[08:10]
grubles	yeah thats what i use too	[08:10]
rawrmage	i just use text groups on usenet :P	[08:11]
*	MBS pisses on rg's chicken parm	[08:11]
MBS	lol	[08:11]
rg	you would	[08:11]
rawrmage	rec.games.roguelike.nethack party wooo	[08:11]
rg	alt.gayporn.ascii	[08:11]
grubles	thats not very nice	[08:11]
MBS	i have 2 friends usenet accounts on mine, then i have that free xs usenet account as well	[08:11]
rawrmage	rg: lol	[08:12]
rg	im downloading a tv show ive never heard of	[08:12]
rg	it looks weird	[08:12]
rg	theres a one handed clown	[08:12]
grubles	whats it called	[08:12]
rg	i dont hate clowns	[08:12]
rg	i just dont hink theyre funny	[08:12]
rg	Psychoville	[08:12]
grubles	hm	[08:13]
rg	its supposed to be a dark comedy	[08:16]
rg	which i like	[08:16]
rg	so we'll see	[08:16]
grubles	let me know how it is	[08:17]
rg	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343750/	[08:18]
rg	there you go grubles	[08:18]
rg	Christmas trees ripped out of their forest plan revenge against people enjoying the holidays.	[08:18]
rg	how could you go wrong :P	[08:18]
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grubles	treevenge?	[08:19]
grubles	haha	[08:19]
grubles	rg: have you seen rare exports?	[08:19]
rg	no	[08:20]
rg	n the depths of the Korvatunturi mountains, 486 metres deep, lies the closest ever guarded secret of Christmas. The time has come to dig it up! This Christmas everyone will believe in Santa Claus.	[08:20]
rg	?	[08:20]
rg	this chicken parm needs some more mic time	[08:21]
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grubles	yeah thats it	[08:22]
phantomcircuit	;;bids 4.2856	[08:22]
gribble	There are currently 404.37208 bitcoins demanded at or over 4.2856 USD, worth 1737.97656952 USD in total.	[08:22]
rawrmage	;;bids 3.6	[08:23]
gribble	There are currently 92872.192 bitcoins demanded at or over 3.6 USD, worth 367637.449623 USD in total.	[08:23]
rawrmage	;;asks 5	[08:23]
gribble	There are currently 44773.152 bitcoins offered at or under 5.0 USD, worth 210454.624964 USD in total.	[08:23]
rg	ah	[08:24]
rg	psychoville is a bbc program	[08:24]
rg	tha twould explain why ive not heard of it	[08:24]
woofcat	;;ticker	[08:25]
gribble	Best bid: 4.31984, Best ask: 4.31985, Bid-ask spread: 9.99999999962e-06, Last trade: 4.31985, 24 hour volume: 61370, 24 hour low: 4.181, 24 hour high: 4.52	[08:25]
copumpkin	that's a pretty tight spread	[08:26]
rg	hh	[08:26]
rg	copumpkin said tight spread	[08:26]
rawrmage	lol	[08:26]
amiller	mm, i can't think of a proof of work scheme that would require miners to demonstrate random access to the blockchain data	[08:26]
amiller	the two things i've thoguht of are, A. having a uniform random sample of like N transactions from the blockchain history, that is deterministic and uses the previous hash as a seed	[08:27]
amiller	or B. having the 'nonce' be the seed for N samples so miners would have to try out lots of different samples and really exercise their blockchain database	[08:28]
rg	does look like #bitcoin-tell-us-your-stupid-ideas	[08:29]
rg	or #bitcoin-otc	[08:29]
rg	just kidding :>	[08:29]
amiller	i always pronounce it "bitcoin-off-topic" in my head	[08:29]
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SpeedBus	Hey	[08:30]
SpeedBus	;;fraud	[08:30]
zordilorp	force the miner to rehash the whole db using a salt you provide	[08:30]
rg	off topic channel	[08:30]
rg	that was a joke	[08:30]
rg	but	[08:30]
rg	its pretty mch standard now	[08:30]
rg	when i first came here they wanted to ban me for being off topic	[08:31]
rg	lol	[08:31]
amiller	ideally there'd be a competitive advantage to having an even faster cache	[08:31]
rg	i brought in a whole new level of off topic to this channel	[08:31]
amiller	like if you double the speed at which you can hash the whole db, you'd double your chances at winning the block	[08:31]
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amiller	so that's the problem with A, since it would be the same amount of work for everyone	[08:31]
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SpeedBus	hey !	[08:32]
amiller	and the problem with B is that it would be possible to discard nonces that make you check on a tx you don't want to check	[08:32]
AAP	anyone looking to sell coins?	[08:33]
AAP	PM	[08:33]
amiller	maybe that's a good idea though	[08:33]
SpeedBus	I'm selling a cloud based backup service which comes with a online desktop	[08:33]
amiller	keep the nonce, but requiring hashing the entire blockchain rather than just a header	[08:33]
SpeedBus	1 Bitcoin/month (30 Days)	[08:33]
grubles	haha holy shit	[08:33]
grubles	the part in treevenge where the tree stomps on the baby's head	[08:34]
rg	heh	[08:34]
amiller	it's more straightforward to hash the whole chain than to pick a random sample, but i feel like there is a solution that just uses a random sample	[08:34]
grubles	i swear this has the same music as hobo with a shotgun	[08:34]
rg	grubles thats done by the same people as hobo with a shotgun	[08:34]
SpeedBus	http://crowncloud.net/ is the service	[08:34]
rg	heh	[08:34]
rg	jinx	[08:34]
grubles	oh well there you go	[08:34]
grubles	lol	[08:34]
rg	its atleast one of the same people	[08:34]
rg	i think one of the writers	[08:34]
rg	this psychoville show is ..	[08:35]
rg	weird	[08:35]
rg	im interested though	[08:35]
grubles	haha	[08:35]
amiller	also it's more interesting if you have to scan the entire db in a random order rather than in a fixed order	[08:35]
zordilorp	yes the seed determines the traversal order, then you can compare the results progressively	[08:36]
zordilorp	until you are satisfied or the whole db is traversed	[08:36]
SpeedBus	anyone interested in purchasing a Cloud based desktop and backup solution for 1 BTC / month (30 Days) http://crowncloud.net/ You can buy for custom durations aswell	[08:36]
amiller	it would be ideal if it were economical to farm out the storage to pool participants as well	[08:37]
amiller	like if your success depends not just on how fast you can go through a particular permutation, but on how many permutations you can try,	[08:37]
amiller	then the pool participants need to provide unique traversal orders	[08:37]
vragnaroda	;;guide SpeedBus	[08:38]
amiller	basically the strength of the network as observed through the PoW should directly correspond to the random access capability of the network	[08:38]
vragnaroda	;;tell SpeedBus [guide]	[08:38]
vragnaroda	dammit	[08:38]
rawrmage	;;magicschoolbus	[08:38]
SpeedBus	thanks :D	[08:39]
grubles	oh hi	[08:40]
SpeedBus	;;sell CrownCloud - Cloud Based Desktop and Backup Service for 1 BTC/month (30 Days) http://crowncloud.net	[08:40]
SpeedBus	damn	[08:40]
rawrmage	nanotube: alias add guide tell $1 [whatis #bitcoin-otc guide] ?	[08:41]
rawrmage	:3	[08:41]
SpeedBus	;;sell crowncloud for 1 btc at "{mtgoxask}"	[08:41]
SpeedBus	damn	[08:41]
rawrmage	;;ident SpeedBus	[08:41]
gribble	Nick 'SpeedBus', with hostmask 'SpeedBus!7aa75260@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.167.82.96', is not identified.	[08:41]
rawrmage	;;tell SpeedBus [gpg]	[08:42]
SpeedBus	I can ident if you want	[08:42]
rawrmage	you need to ident to list	[08:42]
SpeedBus	Done	[08:42]
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amiller	right now i can look at the # of 0's in the hashes coming in and evaluate very precisely how many 5870's worth of hash power are on the network, what i'd ideally like is to be able to look at the hash and estimate how many SSD's are filled with blockchain data	[08:42]
rawrmage	now your ;;sell will work :)	[08:42]
SpeedBus	Its telling me Crowncloud is a invalid float	[08:42]
grubles	i cant get brodyquest out of my head	[08:42]
rawrmage	ohh	[08:42]
rawrmage	put 1 in front of crowncloud	[08:43]
SpeedBus	;;sell CrownCloud Cloud based desktop and backup solution http://crowncloud.net	[08:43]
SpeedBus	Error: 'CrownCloud' is not a valid positive floating point number	[08:43]
SpeedBus	lol	[08:43]
rawrmage	;;help sell	[08:43]
gribble	(sell [at\|@] []) -- Logs a sell order for units of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask\|bid\|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include expression (1 more message)	[08:43]
rawrmage	see?	[08:43]
SpeedBus	anyway, the service looks like this	[08:43]
SpeedBus	http://crowncloud.net/screenshots.html	[08:43]
vragnaroda	;;sell 1 "child's soul" @ 666 BTC	[08:43]
gribble	Order id 6883 created.	[08:43]
NASDAQEnema	if it were order 666 I would the first thing that walked through the door	[08:44]
vragnaroda	You'd what?	[08:44]
SpeedBus	sell 1 CrownCloud at 1 [CrownCloud is a cloud based backup service with a fully functional desktop - http://crowncloud.net]	[08:44]
benjamindees	he'd it	[08:44]
SpeedBus	;;sell 1 CrownCloud at 1 [CrownCloud is a cloud based backup service with a fully functional desktop - http://crowncloud.net]	[08:45]
SpeedBus	DAMN	[08:45]
rawrmage	;;sell 1 CrownCloud at 1 BTV	[08:45]
gribble	Order id 6884 created.	[08:45]
MORA\|	[] means optional	[08:45]
rawrmage	;;remove 6884	[08:45]
gribble	Order 6884 removed.	[08:45]
SpeedBus	;;sell 1 CrownCloud at 1 CrownCloud is a cloud based backup service with a fully functional desktop - http://crowncloud.net	[08:45]
SpeedBus	GPG how do I ident with that	[08:45]
rawrmage	add BTC before the second crowncloud	[08:45]
rawrmage	lol	[08:45]
vragnaroda	;;tell SpeedBus [gpg]	[08:45]
rawrmage	;;tell SpeedBus [gpg]	[08:45]
rawrmage	dang it	[08:45]
SpeedBus	:P	[08:46]
SpeedBus	damn.. I use Gmail how I gen a key for that	[08:46]
rawrmage	>.<	[08:46]
SpeedBus	lol.. I idented with that /msg NickServ identify . thing	[08:47]
SpeedBus	anyways, Graet of OzCoin runs CrownCloud with me	[08:47]
SpeedBus	:P	[08:47]
SpeedBus	#CrownCloud	[08:48]
SpeedBus	there :P	[08:48]
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SpeedBus	Would anyone like to try CrownCloud ?	[08:50]
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Bigpiggy01Mining	Speedbus U on Win?	[08:52]
SpeedBus	Win ? Windows ?	[08:52]
Bigpiggy01Mining	if so grab Gpg4win	[08:52]
Bigpiggy01Mining	or that msys bundle	[08:52]
Bigpiggy01Mining	they work farily well with gpg on Win	[08:52]
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SpeedBus	Lemme try	[08:53]
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SpeedBus	@Bigpiggy01Mining I did see you at the OzCoin IRC yesterday :P	[08:53]
SpeedBus	@Bigpiggy01Mining : Graet runs the service with me.. (OzCoin)	[08:54]
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nanotube	rawrmage: ?	[08:54]
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BTCTrader	i have a guess for the next bitcoin business to close down	[08:55]
rawrmage	nanotube: think that would be useful as a command?	[08:55]
SpeedBus	BTCTrader : which ?	[08:55]
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BTCTrader	anyone else have any guesses?	[08:55]
nanotube	rawrmage: what would it do?	[08:56]
SpeedBus	BTCTrader : whichh ?	[08:56]
BTCTrader	well, i would guess cryptoxchange.com	[08:56]
SpeedBus	they look stable ?	[08:56]
rawrmage	nanotube: when you type ;;guide someone it does the equivalent of ;;tell someone [gpg]	[08:56]
BTCTrader	O.o	[08:56]
rawrmage	and it works in pm	[08:56]
SpeedBus	I was going to switch over to them from Gox	[08:56]
SpeedBus	-.-	[08:57]
BTCTrader	no you wont	[08:57]
nanotube	rawrmage: so you're just saving the 'tell' ? :P	[08:57]
BTCTrader	volume, 84btc	[08:57]
SpeedBus	BTCTrader : Gox good ?	[08:57]
SpeedBus	hmm..	[08:57]
rawrmage	and the [guide]!	[08:57]
SpeedBus	any other good exchange	[08:57]
BTCTrader	you could trade more on otc	[08:57]
rawrmage	anyway I can't add aliases so I thought I'd ask you :3	[08:57]
nanotube	rawrmage: you still have to type 'guide'... :P so guess you're saving the 'tell' and the [] :)	[08:57]
SpeedBus	hmm.. I could try that	[08:58]
SpeedBus	anyways I gotta go noww	[08:58]
SpeedBus	:D	[08:58]
rawrmage	not if it's alias add guide tell $1 [whatis #bitcoin-otc guide]	[08:58]
SpeedBus	Bye guys	[08:58]
rawrmage	try it	[08:58]
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nanotube	yes, so to type it you have to type ";;guide dudesnick". compare to ";;tell dudesnick [guide]"	[08:58]
rawrmage	oh i see lol	[08:59]
nanotube	you've saved precisely the 'tell' and the []	[08:59]
rawrmage	heh	[08:59]
rawrmage	just a little more intuitive i guess? :P	[08:59]
nanotube	yea maybe :)	[08:59]
rawrmage	not like it takes any room in gribble... :P	[08:59]
bandu	i wish i could barter tech support for btc..	[09:02]
nanotube	you can	[09:03]
bandu	but we're all nerds here.. wno'd need it?	[09:03]
nanotube	the trick is finding buyers :) but other than that... it's possible.	[09:03]
nanotube	well, people have done coding projects, etc.	[09:03]
bandu	hehe	[09:03]
nanotube	not so much 'tech support'	[09:03]
bandu	true, but unfortunately, i dont know a coding languag yet.. i would HAPPILY do diligent bug triage work in exchange for bitcoins.. i just dont see i happening.	[09:04]
bandu	i'm sure there's plenty of volunteers	[09:04]
nanotube	heh mm	[09:05]
bandu	the thing is, nanotube, i'm just some poor college student stick in my Lain Cave every day, day in, and day out. I would be esctatic to teach people who to encrypt email, hard drisks, individial files.. i'd personally tutor being in how tobecome a power user.. teach tcp/ip, basic networking..	[09:07]
bandu	*stuck in	[09:07]
bandu	and earn bitcoins as my pay	[09:07]
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bandu	i dont know if that's possible	[09:07]
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rawrmage	it's possible if you can find customers :)	[09:12]
eext_	Anyone have WC3 + The Frozen Throne cdkeys they dont use? I'll pay 6 btc.	[09:12]
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rawrmage	eext_: again if you can wait until tomorrow I have them I'm pretty sure :S	[09:12]
eext_	i got 6 more hours of being up	[09:13]
eext_	lol	[09:13]
eext_	more	[09:13]
rg	this show is fucked..	[09:14]
rg	big time	[09:15]
rg	i ... have to go pray	[09:15]
rawrmage	lol wat	[09:15]
vragnaroda	rawrmage: That bit yesterday and now this? rg and luke-jr are split personalities but they're merging!	[09:16]
vragnaroda	Fuck!	[09:16]
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rawrmage	lol	[09:17]
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ianthius	rg: what show are you watching?	[09:25]
charlierlee_	;;ping	[09:29]
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ageis	ianthius: i believe he said psychoville	[09:33]
MBS	someone needs to start a camwhore site that uses bitcoins	[09:35]
MBS	mybitcams.com	[09:35]
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ianthius	looking for a battle.net account with diablo 3 beta for BTC	[09:40]
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eol	#bitcoin-otc-ticker	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	MBS i was saying that back in august lol	[09:48]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube at Mon Dec 19 23:38:55 2011	[17:24]
mircea_popescu	gee the candlesticks don't look so good do they. we headed to 3 ?	[17:24]
rawrmage	no we're headed to $6	[17:24]
mircea_popescu	o ?	[17:24]
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rawrmage	yea	[17:24]
rawrmage	i said so	[17:24]
mircea_popescu	lol k	[17:24]
mircea_popescu	i tell you it dun' look good	[17:24]
rawrmage	let's all buy 10k	[17:25]
MILF	;;ticker	[17:25]
sturles	At least we are headed to where EUR and USD prices are on the same level. I guess every BTC trader in Europe have huge transfers on the wire to MtGox. I know I have..	[17:25]
draco49	what chart are you looking at? the parabolic sar is showing an uptrend	[17:25]
MILF	Bid-ask spread: 9.99999999962e-06 O_o	[17:25]
Mqrius	My money's in transfer too.	[17:25]
bougyman	uptrend?	[17:25]
*	sturles is just looking at the exchanges	[17:26]
bougyman	ah cool.	[17:26]
Mqrius	Mtgox is so slow in accepting transfers. 5 days for SEPA? Really? That shit takes 2 days, man!	[17:26]
draco49	a trend showing an upward price movement	[17:26]
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mircea_popescu	whats huge sturles ?	[17:26]
Mqrius	my p--aygrade	[17:27]
rawrmage	lpl	[17:27]
rawrmage	lol*	[17:27]
mircea_popescu	draco49 im just looking at the candles for this month	[17:27]
draco49	Oh... switch to a 2-day view... you'll be happier	[17:27]
draco49	the monthly view is depressing	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	meh. we just put a star up there today.	[17:28]
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rawrmage	that's right	[17:28]
sturles	mircea_popescu: Only four digits for my part, but huge by my standards. :-)	[17:28]
Mqrius	I usually watch the 5-month view. It's okay.	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	lmao what is this, look at what makes it look good then say it looks good ?	[17:28]
rawrmage	ignore the data not fitting your views!	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	ya srsly rawr	[17:28]
draco49	LOL	[17:28]
Mqrius	mircea_popescu: That's how speculation works.	[17:28]
rawrmage	that's how the pros do it!	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	sturles i can see that, but 1-2-5k won't move the market.	[17:28]
draco49	no, but the volatility of the market make a 2-5 day view more practical for trading	[17:28]
Mqrius	Unless we /all/ did it! :P	[17:28]
rawrmage	bitcoon	[17:29]
mircea_popescu	you prolly all are.	[17:29]
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OneFixt	looks good to me =)	[17:29]
OneFixt	i expect 6	[17:30]
rawrmage	OneFixt you are an eternal bull	[17:30]
OneFixt	except when i sold at 6.2	[17:30]
rawrmage	lol	[17:30]
draco49	buy buy buy!	[17:30]
Mqrius	Didn't you sell only so you could buy back higher? :P	[17:30]
OneFixt	lower, of course	[17:30]
Mqrius	That's not bullish :P	[17:30]
OneFixt	lol	[17:30]
sturles	mircea_popescu: I've been making up to 40% arbitrage on buying on MtGox and selling on other exchanges. A lot of people are doing the same, and now we're all out of mtgoxusd. Otherwise the difference would be a lot lower. So expect a lot of people to do the same.	[17:31]
spawn-	advisory beware with dareq his kinda scammy	[17:31]
OneFixt	long-term bull, short-term realist	[17:31]
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btclot	intersango is very good for sepa	[17:31]
rawrmage	well all the bears have to be bulls eventually	[17:31]
spawn-	he wanted me to send paypal 1st and he will send my btc in after 1day	[17:31]
mircea_popescu	sturles : very good thing to do.	[17:31]
spawn-	thats sucks	[17:31]
errydayimgenerat	;;eauth errydayimgenerat	[17:31]
rawrmage	if they want to make money	[17:31]
dareq	spawn-	[17:31]
OneFixt	rawrmage: yep, i think that's this week	[17:31]
dareq	You are the one who is pushing into me sending you money before I can even check if you have stolen PayPal or stolen credit card.	[17:31]
rawrmage	would be nice :)	[17:32]
mircea_popescu	how can you check that ?	[17:32]
spawn-	;;rating dareq	[17:32]
spawn-	;;getrating dareq	[17:32]
errydayimgenerat	selling btc @ 4$ each for wells fargo bank wire or cash deposit :)	[17:32]
dareq	spawn- Because you have reputation it doesnt mean i'll go blindly into transaction and send you NOREVERSABLE cash for REVERSABLE money before even checking if you're legit and using legit paypal not stolen one.	[17:33]
dareq	spawn- not with this amigo.	[17:33]
mircea_popescu	whats mtgox, 5 biz days ?	[17:33]
spawn-	and why your demanding me to send my BTC after 1-2days ?	[17:33]
spawn-	for what reason ?	[17:33]
spawn-	i dont deal with you dareq	[17:33]
spawn-	find another person sorry	[17:33]
OneFixt	;;getrating spawn	[17:34]
dareq	spawn- So dont say that I am fishy in public when you cant even meet basic conditions of checking if you're fair guy.	[17:34]
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ineededausername	still so many voiced people!	[17:34]
OneFixt	sounds like you guys should just not trade with each other	[17:34]
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mircea_popescu	you don't need voice to speak here.	[17:35]
dareq	;;getrating spawn-	[17:35]
gribble	User spawn-, created on Sat Feb 4 19:27:00 2012. Cumulative rating 38, from 23 total ratings. Received ratings: 22 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 21 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=spawn- Currently authenticated from hostmask spawn-!hellspawn@ur.mom.loves.to.get.down.and.bl0w-me.dk	[17:35]
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uzyn	dareq: 1-2 days are not good enough to ensure that a paypal transaction will not be reversed	[17:36]
uzyn	paypal allows reversal up to 3 months	[17:36]
dareq	uzyn I said him same thing and he still dont want to deal with me because I can magically scam him as I'm seller accepting PayPal for bitcoins lol.	[17:36]
errydayimgenerat	lol bitcoin-court	[17:36]
dareq	uzyn Also I told him to wait 1 day till I pay out him his bitcoin so I can be sure at least that he's not using stolen paypal.	[17:36]
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uzyn	dareq: I don't see how 1 day's going to make any diff	[17:37]
dareq	uzyn He denied that, so I just told him to go away :)	[17:37]
OneFixt	good idea	[17:37]
uzyn	dareq: to be completely safe, you should wait 3 months	[17:37]
dareq	uzyn: It does make difference for me.	[17:37]
dareq	uzyn And nobody will wait 3 months for me :)	[17:37]
uzyn	exactly	[17:37]
errydayimgenerat	baby i've waited all my life for you <3	[17:37]
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rawrmage	ow!!	[17:40]
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SerajewelKS	mcorlett: the source should be available	[17:43]
SerajewelKS	mcorlett: as in, i should make it available but i've been busy with life :)	[17:43]
mcorlett	SerajewelKS: No worries. I was merely curious.	[17:43]
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errydayimgenerat	selling btc @ 4$ each for wells fargo customer to customer bank wire or cash deposit :)	[17:44]
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dareq	'http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BITCOINS FOR PAYPAL (you getting coins)	[17:44]
uzyn	dareq: I would deal with you but only if you send right after you get paypal	[17:46]
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spawn-	nice uzyn thats what i wanted too :) fair deal	[17:46]
uzyn	dareq: noone's going to wait 1-2 days for you to send	[17:47]
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dareq	This is fair deal because i'm risking whole money and you're risking nothing as buyer.	[17:48]
errydayimgenerat	uhh, money?	[17:48]
dareq	sorry but I will not send anyone noreversable money for reversable bitcoins if I cant even make sure that you're legit.	[17:48]
errydayimgenerat	;;getrating dareq	[17:48]
uzyn	dareq: you can check ratings	[17:48]
rawrmage	'reversable bitcoins'?	[17:49]
errydayimgenerat	Error: This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask dareq!5bddd6bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.221.214.191	[17:49]
uzyn	dareq: to be completely sure a paypal tx is legit, you should wait 3 months	[17:49]
errydayimgenerat	lol not even rated	[17:49]
dareq	I meant reversable money for noreversable bitcoins :)	[17:49]
dareq	sorry my bad.	[17:49]
errydayimgenerat	hi i'm trying to steal as much money as i can in 24 hours	[17:49]
rawrmage	lol	[17:49]
dareq	How I can steal money with PayPal?	[17:49]
dareq	just explain me that.	[17:49]
gilly_	sell 50 USD @ {mtgoxlast} BTC USD in the form of CVS PHARMACY egift cards. smaller amounts acceptable pm me.	[17:49]
errydayimgenerat	you get the money	[17:49]
dareq	then i'll become millionaire!	[17:49]
errydayimgenerat	then bounce	[17:50]
dareq	yea bounce	[17:50]
dareq	bounce with my head?	[17:50]
rawrmage	bounce as in not send the coins you promise to send.'	[17:50]
dareq	...	[17:50]
dareq	did you read what I said?	[17:50]
dareq	doesnt matter what I do with money	[17:50]
dareq	I cant withdraw it even in 1 day.	[17:50]
dareq	and even if I spent it, i will still have negative balance and have to pay it back	[17:50]
dareq	and buyer will get his money back one way or another.	[17:50]
errydayimgenerat	usually it otc the one with the lower rating sends first dareq.	[17:50]
rawrmage	why don't you just register with OTC	[17:50]
dareq	so you have no point.	[17:51]
dareq	Im on that :)	[17:51]
errydayimgenerat	you don't have to ppay shit back. leave a negative balance and move on	[17:51]
dareq	yea.	[17:51]
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dareq	if it was that easy then everyone would be scamming paypal.	[17:51]
dareq	sorry mate,they chase after money.	[17:51]
dareq	even if its not instantly	[17:51]
dareq	debt collectors comes after you eventually.	[17:51]
dareq	sad but true.	[17:51]
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errydayimgenerat	usually in otc the one with the lower rating sends first dareq.	[17:52]
uzyn	dareq: how do we get back our money if you bounce? by reversing payment?	[17:52]
rawrmage	the price is spelling out a letter	[17:52]
rawrmage	a message	[17:52]
btcplease	can someone sell me 800 worth of BTC by moneypak	[17:52]
rawrmage	t... r... o... l... o... l... o... l...	[17:52]
btcplease	i have an ident...	[17:52]
btcplease	im doing it now	[17:52]
btcplease	not a trol bro	[17:52]
btcplease	please dont call me one	[17:52]
rawrmage	i'm not calling you one :P	[17:53]
dareq	errydayimgenerat: I agree but buyer isnt risking anything here since i'm not asking for western union or something.	[17:53]
uzyn	we are risking by shipping you first!	[17:53]
dareq	uzyn : You have 3 methods of reversing payment I can think of :	[17:53]
btcplease	so anyone wanna sell btc?	[17:53]
dareq	uzyn : Unathorized chargeback,normal chargeback and bank chargeback.	[17:53]
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dareq	uzyn : There are propably more.	[17:53]
uzyn	dareq: Exactly! Scammers are still going to reverse it receiving BTC you send in 1-2 days	[17:54]
errydayimgenerat	so because we can chargeback we are supposed to trust you?	[17:54]
dareq	uzyn : Buyer always wins with PayPal,just read about it,even on bitcoin sites they say never deal with paypal as seller because I can get scammed and that's what risk I'm taking.	[17:54]
uzyn	dareq: They have 3 months to do that	[17:54]
dareq	uzyn Well i hope you are not a scammer right?	[17:54]
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uzyn	;;getrating uzyn	[17:54]
dareq	uzyn because if you werent scammer then you could wait that 1 day and dont care.	[17:54]
btcplease	hellooo?	[17:54]
errydayimgenerat	Shaded: don't you have wells fargo?	[17:54]
btcplease	;;ident btcplease	[17:54]
Shaded	Why yes I do	[17:54]
Shaded	And this is why I hate IRC	[17:54]
errydayimgenerat	you want some 4$bitcoins?	[17:55]
dareq	errydayimgenerat : Pretty much yes,because I cant physically scam you and it would make no sense for me to just waste my and your time for nothing.	[17:55]
errydayimgenerat	^_^	[17:55]
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errydayimgenerat	why cause i have a memory?	[17:55]
Shaded	:P	[17:55]
uzyn	dareq: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=uzyn	[17:55]
Shaded	My current trading stance for Bitcoin is this...	[17:55]
spawn-	dareq how about i buy 10btc to you 1st lets see if you really has BTC hehe	[17:55]
spawn-	what do you think guys ?	[17:55]
spawn-	lets start from small amount	[17:55]
btcplease	so is anyone selling btc??	[17:55]
dareq	spawn- I already told you why I am not buying small amounts.	[17:55]
btcplease	i need 800 worth!!	[17:56]
dareq	spawn- are you disabled or what?	[17:56]
jcpham	my current stance is hoard all the bitcoin	[17:56]
uzyn	lol	[17:56]
spawn-	lol	[17:56]
rawrmage	dareq: would you be willing to send your coins to an address you own to prove that you own them?	[17:56]
errydayimgenerat	dareq: why do you have to bring physical ability into this?	[17:56]
spawn-	yeah!!!	[17:57]
dareq	Im not spam chat anymore, if you have more questions then just ask PM :)	[17:57]
spawn-	lol	[17:57]
uzyn	troll	[17:57]
Shaded	errydayimgenerat: http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i476/Nzeffer/RoseCrying.gif	[17:57]
Shaded	My current trading stance.	[17:58]
dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[17:58]
rawrmage	Shaded: :(	[17:58]
Shaded	dareq: I read that as Will trade BTC for PUPPIES	[17:58]
errydayimgenerat	Shaded: so you're hurtin for a squirtin?	[17:58]
a5m0	selling dual 2.8ghz xeon server, 8gb ram, sata hdd, tower case, 600w psu, radeon 5830 for mining optional, asking $250 taking offers	[17:59]
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UnderSampled\|tab	a5m0: is that USD or BTC :P	[18:00]
a5m0	$ is USD	[18:00]
UnderSampled\|tab	isn't $250 really cheap for that?	[18:02]
a5m0	you should buy it	[18:02]
zordilorp	tubegirl	[18:03]
jcpham	-e	[18:03]
UnderSampled\|tab	a5m0: why so cheap? or am I just not very savvy?	[18:03]
a5m0	both	[18:04]
rawrmage	lol	[18:04]
a5m0	the 5830 is not included in the $250, it's additional	[18:04]
UnderSampled\|tab	ok...	[18:05]
btcplease	can a seller scam a buyer using paypal!?!?	[18:05]
UnderSampled\|tab	which xenon?	[18:05]
UnderSampled\|tab	*xeon	[18:05]
a5m0	btcplease, yes	[18:05]
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btcplease	am50 im going to PM you	[18:05]
a5m0	no thanks	[18:06]
btcplease	i have a question...	[18:06]
a5m0	i will not tell you how to scam somone	[18:06]
btcplease	i need some help so i dont get myself into a problem..	[18:06]
btcplease	wtf	[18:06]
btcplease	not that bro	[18:06]
btcplease	dont fuckking assume that	[18:06]
btcplease	a seller contacted me asking me to buy his btc using paypal. i want to know the risks on myend	[18:06]
btcplease	dont fucking assume that just because i want to protect myself i want to scam someone... i came in here asking to use monepak	[18:07]
btcplease	now if u dont want to help, then be that way. otherwise dont answer me at all with a fucking fake response accusing me of scamming.	[18:07]
errydayimgenerat	btcplease: is this seller sending his bitcoins a day after you send money?	[18:07]
btcplease	yes	[18:07]
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dareq	Yes that's me.	[18:07]
a5m0	btcplease, now you will be ignored for language	[18:07]
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dareq	and dont say to him that this is scam because you have no proof and there's NO WAY for me to scam anybody that way.	[18:08]
btcplease	fuckity fuck fuck fuck, am50 idc	[18:08]
dareq	im not waiting 30 days till money CANT be recalled or anything.	[18:08]
dareq	like most people does.	[18:08]
errydayimgenerat	go someone turned on the mode +pantytwister in irc today	[18:08]
errydayimgenerat	god*	[18:08]
NASDAQEnema	a5m0 you accuse ppl, when they want to not be abused, of abusing ppl, you can expect a hostile attitude	[18:09]
dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[18:09]
btcplease	yes.	[18:10]
a5m0	NASDAQEnema, you're assuming that you can read my pm's?	[18:10]
btcplease	im sorry for being hostile but thats not cool bro	[18:10]
a5m0	not to mention his failure at language and calling me a bro... lack of intelligence	[18:10]
btcplease	does anyone else have any insight on this matter...?	[18:10]
btcplease	lo... i have a degree in computer engineering from UCF	[18:10]
btcplease	im no low intellegence person..	[18:10]
a5m0	no you don't you're using webchat	[18:10]
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btcplease	what does that have to do with anyting	[18:11]
btcplease	i didnt want an IRC client	[18:11]
btcplease	i dont use this enough to need one	[18:11]
btcplease	stop thinking like you know me so well	[18:11]
a5m0	immediate invalidation of perceived computer intelligence	[18:11]
borealisx	are you ok?	[18:11]
draco49	lol	[18:11]
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errydayimgenerat	bro	[18:11]
errydayimgenerat	brooo	[18:11]
errydayimgenerat	draco49: you still want those bitcoins at 4 a pop?	[18:12]
btcplease	anyone else have any information on the mater at hand? about paypal and seller scamming..	[18:12]
zordilorp	yeah its totally scammlicious	[18:12]
errydayimgenerat	;;getrating btcplease	[18:12]
gribble	User btcplease, created on Mon Jan 30 19:15:31 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=btcplease Currently authenticated from hostmask btcplease!84aa2673@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.170.38.115	[18:12]
a5m0	i will send you paypal nao, you take?	[18:12]
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btcplease	alright, thank yiu i would rather just work with mp then	[18:12]
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btcplease	no i dont want USD i want BTC a5mo, what dont u understand?	[18:13]
a5m0	i send you paypal rite nao bro	[18:13]
btcplease	no thanks	[18:14]
NASDAQEnema	a5m0 bro your self-righteous bs isn't convincing anyone - get that airliner out of your anus	[18:14]
borealisx	i'll be your pal.. forever	[18:14]
btcplease	;;getrating a5m0	[18:14]
gribble	User a5m0, created on Wed Feb 15 19:28:38 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=a5m0 Currently not authenticated.	[18:14]
smickles	airliner?	[18:14]
btcplease	get authenticated a5m0 before you start telling me idk what im doing	[18:14]
a5m0	btcplease, i've sent you paypal where is my btc?	[18:14]
btcplease	dont lie	[18:14]
borealisx	i've sent you creamcheese where is my airliner	[18:15]
NASDAQEnema	a5m0 the man does not want $	[18:15]
a5m0	btcplease, I wouldn't know where to start, too many things I'd have to educate you on	[18:15]
a5m0	NASDAQEnema, you aren't real quick are you, re-read last 50 lines	[18:15]
btcplease	literally, all i want to do is purchase 800USD worth of BTC. i want to use moneypak	[18:15]
bitcoinTrader	;;getrating dareq	[18:16]
btcplease	no paypal, no banks, no nothing. i just want moneypak so its safe for both ends	[18:16]
a5m0	btcplease, moneypak != paypal, i see no problem	[18:16]
btcplease	if someone can help, then please do	[18:16]
NASDAQEnema	he wanted to know if a BTC seller could screw him over paypal, not whether he'll be reversed on	[18:16]
btcplease	thats a joke, moneypak and pp are very different. I am not talking to you anymore because of your ignorance.	[18:16]
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btcplease	nasdaq thank you for understanding	[18:17]
a5m0	btcplease, your lack of understanding what != means already invalidates you haveing a degree	[18:17]
NASDAQEnema	that'll be 5 BTCs	[18:17]
errydayimgenerat	having*	[18:17]
*	errydayimgenerat sets mode -pantytwister	[18:17]
errydayimgenerat	hopefully this unbunches the panties	[18:18]
btcplease	continue talking to yourself. I choose to ignore rather than to have an argument with you.	[18:18]
NASDAQEnema	you must be this tall to set -pantytwister	[18:18]
a5m0	you're kind of failing hard	[18:18]
errydayimgenerat	shit	[18:18]
btcplease	if anyone has BTC for sale for a moneypak, lemme know. I have so me work i have to get done. Thanks!	[18:19]
btcplease	some*	[18:19]
errydayimgenerat	whenever i get a glimmer of hope this channel reminds me why i want to put a shotgun in my throat and pull the trigger	[18:19]
Bigpiggy01Mining	well said	[18:19]
jcpham	do it now	[18:19]
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jcpham	and be done with it	[18:19]
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dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[18:20]
a5m0	between the eyes is more reliable	[18:20]
NASDAQEnema	errydayimgenerat: disregard ircs acquire currency	[18:20]
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errydayimgenerat	a5m0: not at all. down the throat is far superior.	[18:25]
a5m0	I prefer no survivors	[18:25]
errydayimgenerat	that's why you go own the throat	[18:25]
errydayimgenerat	between the eyes isn't always necessarily lethal	[18:26]
borealisx	really?	[18:26]
a5m0	testing is needed	[18:26]
errydayimgenerat	yeah	[18:26]
borealisx	that explodes some pretty fundamental shit	[18:26]
errydayimgenerat	if you go through the throat you'll destroy the medulla oblongata	[18:26]
Bigpiggy01Mining	dude if you're feeling down go join #solidcoin and you'll feel better in a few secs	[18:26]
errydayimgenerat	the brain stem, the part that controls all the breathing and automatic activities	[18:26]
a5m0	most people stop functioning without a frontal cortex	[18:26]
errydayimgenerat	if you destroy that you just drop like a rock	[18:26]
borealisx	hehe.. lsd	[18:27]
errydayimgenerat	don't even feel a thing after that	[18:27]
errydayimgenerat	it's the sniper point to hit	[18:27]
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dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[18:30]
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Bigpiggy01Mining	http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/02/alt-text-lethal-mutants/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher	[18:37]
rg	msg dbordello that all worked out btw	[18:38]
rawrmage	lol	[18:38]
errydayimgenerat	i'm a pretty lady	[18:38]
rg	rawrmage	[18:38]
rg	ive worked on yuor issue	[18:38]
rg	an ddiscovered how to fix it	[18:38]
rawrmage	oh? that's good	[18:38]
rg	sysctl net.ipv6.conf.eth0.accept_ra=0	[18:39]
rg	then add it to sysctl.conf	[18:39]
rawrmage	k	[18:40]
rg	many	[18:40]
rg	lines	[18:40]
rg	for	[18:40]
rg	same	[18:40]
rg	idea	[18:40]
rg	jcpham	[18:40]
rawrmage	lol	[18:40]
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heisebersch	i could use someone with expertise in linux or someone who managed to get a "BCM4318 Airforce One 54g" wifi card running on a ubuntu 11.10 based distro	[18:44]
heisebersch	is such a person present?	[18:44]
rawrmage	heisebersch: bcm4318? hmm	[18:45]
heisebersch	broadcom :\|	[18:45]
rawrmage	heisebersch: try this http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43	[18:45]
heisebersch	its such a nice vintage laptop, everything runs perfectly, besides the wifi	[18:45]
rawrmage	i use it with my bcm4322 and it works great, it says bcm4318 is supported	[18:46]
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dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[18:46]
heisebersch	not to insult your interlect, but if i wouldnt have googled my ass off already i wouldnt ask on irc	[18:46]
rawrmage	lol	[18:46]
draco49	;;ident errydayimgenerat	[18:46]
gribble	Nick 'errydayimgenerat', with hostmask 'errydayimgenerat!~trikkiyni@phl-69-171-168-15.evdo.leapwireless.net', is identified as user errydayimgenerat, with GPG key id C7C3F3750594495A, and key fingerprint 7A60083422FB48F3B4F681FEC7C3F3750594495A.	[18:46]
rawrmage	you've tried that, it doesn't work for you?	[18:46]
draco49	;;getrating errydayimgenerat	[18:46]
gribble	User errydayimgenerat, created on Sun Jan 29 09:31:28 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=errydayimgenerat Currently authenticated from hostmask errydayimgenerat!~trikkiyni@phl-69-171-168-15.evdo.leapwireless.net	[18:46]
btcplease	nothing yet dareq?	[18:47]
btcplease	ahaah	[18:47]
heisebersch	of course not. thats why im asking for someone who actually managed to do it.	[18:47]
heisebersch	or get it done	[18:47]
Graet	#ubuntu	[18:47]
rawrmage	heisebersch: rawr@popcorn:~$ lsmod \| grep b43	[18:47]
rawrmage	b43 332896 0	[18:47]
errydayimgenerat	draco49: the original otc name was errydayimgenerating but i left that gpg key in jersey	[18:47]
rawrmage	where are you stuck	[18:48]
errydayimgenerat	also i already got a buyer, sorry :(	[18:48]
gilly_	j	[18:48]
heisebersch	idk. iwconfig doesnt even show wlan interfaces anymore	[18:48]
draco49	That's ok... tho I do like the original one better ;)	[18:48]
heisebersch	it did when i had a dongle plugged in	[18:48]
rawrmage	have you installed the compat-wireless drivers	[18:49]
draco49	damn... you got a buyer that quick? That can get you cash now?	[18:49]
errydayimgenerat	yeah we did the same thing a week ago	[18:49]
rawrmage	wtf named-checkzone	[18:50]
draco49	ok...	[18:50]
rawrmage	when did you decide it was your responsibility to check other people's nameservere	[18:50]
errydayimgenerat	the original one had a sexy rating	[18:50]
rawrmage	I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR FAILINGS	[18:50]
errydayimgenerat	i wish i knew to get the gpg key off the hard drive	[18:50]
draco49	do you have that computer still?	[18:51]
draco49	or HD?	[18:51]
errydayimgenerat	yeah	[18:51]
heisebersch	i completely uninstalled and reinstalled the b43 firmware installer and related items ad naseum	[18:51]
errydayimgenerat	in another state	[18:51]
heisebersch	rawrmage	[18:51]
rawrmage	have you downloaded and compiled specifically the compat-wireless drivers	[18:52]
draco49	did you ever export your secret key for backup?	[18:52]
heisebersch	i am also quite sick of trying this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access	[18:52]
dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[18:53]
rawrmage	COMPAT-WIRELESS	[18:53]
rawrmage	http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download	[18:53]
heisebersch	no rawrmage. everything keeps saying there is no need for that if you can install the firmware-b43-installer package	[18:53]
draco49	compat-wireless rocks	[18:53]
rawrmage	well i needed it	[18:53]
rawrmage	on ubuntu 11.10	[18:54]
rawrmage	but you know	[18:54]
rawrmage	ymmv	[18:54]
heisebersch	thanks, ill try that.	[18:54]
heisebersch	also: dat laptop needs a memory upgrade	[18:54]
heisebersch	its like 8 years old. the battery still works for 4 hours, even if you hook up a monitor, the fan is silent	[18:55]
errydayimgenerat	draco49: nae sir, back up is for cowards	[18:55]
heisebersch	but only 256mb ram	[18:55]
heisebersch	you can add a gig	[18:55]
heisebersch	but its hard to find	[18:55]
heisebersch	ddr1 sodimm	[18:55]
draco49	Not if you treasure your GPG identity :) I always keep a backup on my cell phone :P	[18:56]
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NASDAQEnema	rawrmage: which chipset	[18:56]
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rawrmage	NASDAQEnema: what exactly do you mean	[18:57]
rawrmage	mine has a pci id of 14e4:432b	[18:57]
NASDAQEnema	one sec	[18:57]
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draco49	if your deal with the other guy doesn't work out, or you want to sell anymore, even @ market price, let me know.	[18:59]
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Cusipzzz	EvanR: tanking	[18:59]
errydayimgenerat	draco49: he's already on the way to the bank believe	[19:00]
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*	splatster is thinking about selling all his bitcoins :(	[19:01]
dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[19:01]
jcpham	splatster i'm buying at $1/ per	[19:02]
jcpham	sell!	[19:02]
splatster	I think I'll buy PPUSD	[19:03]
splatster	gasp	[19:03]
NASDAQEnema	rawrmage: what kernel you got?	[19:03]
rawrmage	NASDAQEnema: 3.0.0-15-generic	[19:03]
splatster	And just send all that to my savings account and call it quits	[19:03]
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NASDAQEnema	;;bc,mtgox	[19:04]
draco49	Well thanks anyway :) Keep me in mind for future trades. I'm always down for a nice easy cash trade, and WF is only 3 blocks from my house.	[19:04]
errydayimgenerat	yes sss	[19:05]
errydayimgenerat	ait ehhh	[19:05]
splatster	Looking to sell BTC for PPUSD to trusted members.	[19:05]
errydayimgenerat	how many were you lookin for draco49 ?	[19:05]
NASDAQEnema	splatster: 6.5 BTC for 27	[19:05]
NASDAQEnema	PPUSD	[19:05]
draco49	8-10	[19:06]
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splatster	;;calc 27 / 6.5	[19:06]
gribble	4.15384615385	[19:06]
splatster	meh	[19:06]
splatster	lolnofuckingway	[19:06]
errydayimgenerat	why would you pay in paypal for under going rate?	[19:06]
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zw3x	;;guide	[19:06]
errydayimgenerat	that's just hocus pocus	[19:06]
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NASDAQEnema	;;calc 28 / 6.3	[19:06]
draco49	PP should be market +10%	[19:06]
heisebersch2200	ha!	[19:07]
draco49	risk tax	[19:07]
heisebersch2200	at least that old buck runs irssi	[19:07]
splatster	I'll sell for 4.7	[19:07]
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NASDAQEnema	;;calc 4.7 * 6.3	[19:07]
draco49	LOL as soon as paypalbuyer saw that +10% thing he bounced	[19:07]
splatster	;;calc 4.7 * 6.3	[19:07]
errydayimgenerat	draco49: you good with a mtgox code or?	[19:07]
splatster	;;calc 4.7 * 6.3	[19:08]
NASDAQEnema	I have 29.40	[19:08]
gribble	29.61	[19:08]
heisebersch2200	rawrmage, can you guide me through the process of how yours got to work?	[19:08]
draco49	I'm cool with a gox code	[19:08]
NASDAQEnema	splatster: is it US?	[19:08]
NASDAQEnema	your pp	[19:08]
splatster	NASDAQEnema: Yes	[19:08]
rawrmage	heisebersch2200: maybe, i don't really remember, i'm really tired, and I need to migrate this dns server	[19:08]
NASDAQEnema	can I have your pp I want to try see what fees I get on a gift to you	[19:09]
errydayimgenerat	draco49: 10@4.3$ eh?	[19:09]
splatster	NASDAQEnema: I'm -buying- ppusd	[19:09]
NASDAQEnema	I'm sending as gift	[19:09]
splatster	oooh	[19:09]
splatster	;;getrating NASDAQEnema	[19:10]
gribble	User NASDAQEnema, created on Wed Feb 15 23:47:29 2012. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=NASDAQEnema Currently not authenticated.	[19:10]
splatster	wait a minute	[19:10]
splatster	1 rating :(	[19:10]
draco49	Yeah I'll do that.	[19:10]
NASDAQEnema	I got disconnected	[19:10]
NASDAQEnema	I used to be AntiVigilante	[19:10]
errydayimgenerat	oh	[19:10]
NASDAQEnema	;;getrating AntiVigilante	[19:10]
errydayimgenerat	that explains why you suck so much :)	[19:11]
rawrmage	lol	[19:11]
splatster	;;getrating antivigilante	[19:11]
gribble	User antivigilante, created on Mon Apr 18 01:27:31 2011. Cumulative rating 44, from 21 total ratings. Received ratings: 21 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 24 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=antivigilante Currently not authenticated.	[19:11]
splatster	oh ok	[19:11]
mcorlett	pirateat40: ping	[19:11]
pirateat40	hi	[19:11]
pirateat40	pong	[19:11]
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Bigpiggy01Mining	Pirate are you looking for more # for Gpumax?	[19:11]
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errydayimgenerat	first time i came into otc i was zooted on methylenedioxypyrovalerone	[19:11]
pirateat40	#?	[19:11]
draco49	Is that a cheese?	[19:12]
zw3x	what would be a realistic exchange rate for moneypak usd to btc	[19:12]
errydayimgenerat	it's a drug that makes meth look like a cup of coffee	[19:12]
Bigpiggy01Mining	hash	[19:12]
draco49	LOL I know... I was jk coz the end of the word reminded me of provolone	[19:13]
errydayimgenerat	lol	[19:13]
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draco49	If you want to do that trade, PM me your acct# and I'll go make the deposit.	[19:14]
pirateat40	Bigpiggy01Mining, always, we are inviting as fast as we can.	[19:14]
errydayimgenerat	eah one sec logging into that thing	[19:14]
errydayimgenerat	mtgox	[19:14]
draco49	gotcha	[19:14]
Bigpiggy01Mining	cool	[19:14]
Bigpiggy01Mining	I'll go put in an invite request	[19:15]
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msood90	259 BTC for sale	[19:17]
dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[19:18]
rawrmage	wtf	[19:19]
rawrmage	i just tried to delete a route in my routing table, route segfaulted, but now the thing I was trying to fix works	[19:19]
msood90	lol	[19:19]
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MBS	dareq, spawn- was looking to buy some BTC	[19:22]
dareq	We already talked, he's not interested.	[19:23]
splatster	selling $21.36454 MTGOX USD for PPUSD	[19:23]
errydayimgenerat	they already yelled at each other	[19:23]
MBS	ah	[19:23]
rawrmage	bind9 tiem	[19:23]
dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[19:23]
splatster	;;rate NASDAQEnema 1 Smooth PPUSD trade	[19:23]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user NASDAQEnema has been recorded.	[19:23]
errydayimgenerat	cause dareq wants to send coins a day after paypal is received	[19:23]
dareq	for security reasons.	[19:23]
dareq	you can chargeback money up to 30/90/180 days so how does it matter?	[19:23]
dareq	I need proof that paypal acount isnt stolen.	[19:23]
errydayimgenerat	how does waiting a day prove it's not stolen?	[19:24]
dareq	because most paypal users check their paypal daily or at least email and they can see if someone sent money form their account and can contact paypal.	[19:24]
dareq	you couldnt think of that?	[19:24]
errydayimgenerat	no cause i don't check my paypal daily	[19:25]
NASDAQEnema	ok how about this	[19:25]
NASDAQEnema	I could be an escrow if you like	[19:25]
errydayimgenerat	cause i pibdgaf	[19:25]
NASDAQEnema	I just did a trade with splatster	[19:25]
splatster	I can do escrow too!	[19:26]
dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[19:26]
splatster	I have done an escrow in the past	[19:26]
NASDAQEnema	I can vouch for splatster we just traded	[19:27]
zw3x	um	[19:28]
zw3x	how can i get the key id in keopatra on windows	[19:28]
zw3x	the 16 digit key	[19:28]
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splatster	Selling mtgox usd and btc for ppusd	[19:29]
splatster	Don't pass up the chance!	[19:30]
imsaguy	read the guide?	[19:30]
AcidicChip	If anyone wants to hire a Node.js/LAMP/HTML5/CSS3/JavaScript developer for BTC, hit me up!	[19:30]
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errydayimgenerat	why does it take foos so long to go to the bank	[19:31]
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pingdrive	AcidicChip, what exactly is the point of Node.js?	[19:32]
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splatster	Buying PPUSD!	[19:34]
errydayimgenerat	ughhh my bowels	[19:34]
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dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[19:36]
a5m0	WTT 3x 5830s for 1x 5970	[19:36]
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mcorlett	Interesting article: "I’m the guy who made bitcoin difficulty shoot up from 45.0 to 181.5 for a while." - http://nenolod.net/thoughts-on-bitcoin/	[19:37]
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dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[19:38]
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rg	someone ust walked in on me taking a shit	[19:39]
splatster	lol	[19:40]
rg	i had my shirt off	[19:40]
rg	etc	[19:40]
rg	and was reading	[19:40]
rg	the dude must be like 'uh who takes off their shirt to shit'	[19:40]
splatster	LOL!	[19:40]
rg	i was cleaning my arm pits	[19:40]
rg	thats why it was off	[19:40]
Raccoon	why were you cleaning your arm pits while taking a shit in a public restroom?	[19:41]
netxshare	o.O	[19:41]
rg	umm who said it was public?	[19:41]
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netxshare	he forgot to shower	[19:41]
Raccoon	well. i suppose you could let people wander into your house and bathroom	[19:41]
rg	its my room mates cousin	[19:41]
rg	hes staying with us	[19:41]
rg	and doesnt know how to knock	[19:41]
Raccoon	indian huh	[19:42]
rg	or notice that a room has the light on, door close,d and fan on	[19:42]
netxshare	locks are wonderful things	[19:42]
rg	i always lock the door	[19:42]
rg	thats hte killer thing	[19:42]
splatster	netxshare: indeed	[19:42]
rg	i didnt intend on shitting when i went in	[19:42]
rg	but while i was washing my pits	[19:42]
rg	i had to shit	[19:42]
netxshare	lol	[19:42]
splatster	lol	[19:42]
splatster	I hate when that happens	[19:42]
rg	well great, the first person to see my junk this year was 'some dude'	[19:43]
splatster	You go to the bathroom to do one thing and next thing you know you're taking a shit.	[19:43]
zw3x	lol	[19:43]
splatster	haha	[19:43]
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errydayimgenerat	sometimes i leave the fan on after i shit cause it's so vile	[19:43]
splatster	rg: Sounds like you're moving up in the world.	[19:43]
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errydayimgenerat	rg: what's wrong with some dude	[19:44]
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errydayimgenerat	lkarlhagr	[19:46]
dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[19:46]
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splatster	dareq: You're spamming	[19:46]
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rawrmage	you're jamming	[19:46]
rawrmage	we're groovin	[19:47]
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rawrmage	this channel's movin!	[19:47]
splatster	fuuuuck	[19:47]
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errydayimgenerat	nice	[19:48]
errydayimgenerat	i was waiting for two people to deposit wells fargo	[19:48]
errydayimgenerat	they ended up doing it the same time	[19:48]
errydayimgenerat	;;rate tril 2 two BTC for cash deposit trades. reliable.	[19:49]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user tril has changed from 1 to 2.	[19:49]
errydayimgenerat	;;rate draco49 cash deposit for mtgox btc code, deposited first no problem	[19:50]
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errydayimgenerat	;;rate draco49 1 cash deposit for mtgox btc code, deposited first no problem	[19:50]
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heisebersch2200	ha rawrmage	[19:50]
heisebersch2200	i got the dongle to work	[19:51]
rawrmage	nice	[19:51]
heisebersch2200	dongles around though	[19:51]
heisebersch2200	on the back of the machine	[19:51]
heisebersch2200	>I	[19:51]
rawrmage	at least it works though right?	[19:51]
errydayimgenerat	weeeeeeeee	[19:51]
heisebersch2200	yes	[19:51]
heisebersch2200	im downloading that compat stuff aswell	[19:52]
heisebersch2200	lets see if that does something	[19:52]
heisebersch2200	this machine is so fucking slow with the little memory	[19:52]
heisebersch2200	my pda is faster, seriously	[19:52]
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Raccoon	Want To Sell	[19:58]
rawrmage	Buy Buy Buy	[19:58]
copumpkin	Want to sell for $25 each	[19:58]
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copumpkin	PM me if you're interested in over 10000 coins at $25 each	[19:59]
splatster	Buying PPUSD	[19:59]
draco49	;;rate errydayimgenerat 1 bought Gox code for cash - fast and easy tx :)	[19:59]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user errydayimgenerat has been recorded.	[19:59]
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gilly_	k	[20:01]
Raccoon	Want To Sell -- Walmart Stock -- 2.74 Shares valued at $171.22 -- Held by Computershare.com -- For 35 BTC ($155.05 current ticker)	[20:01]
copumpkin	:O	[20:01]
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splatster	Selling BTC and GOXUSD	[20:08]
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zw3x	whats the codeword for moneypak usd	[20:14]
zw3x	lol	[20:14]
splatster	just MP	[20:14]
zw3x	i put MONEYPAKUSD	[20:14]
splatster	USD is a given	[20:14]
zw3x	lol	[20:14]
zw3x	should i cancel the offer?	[20:14]
splatster	MP can only be bought in the US if memory serves	[20:14]
splatster	no leave the offer	[20:14]
zw3x	ok	[20:14]
splatster	Wait how much MP you got?	[20:15]
zw3x	around $300	[20:15]
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splatster	In one card or multiple?	[20:15]
zw3x	one card	[20:15]
splatster	damn	[20:15]
zw3x	?	[20:15]
splatster	I have ~$21 GOXUSD and ~30 BTC in my wallet	[20:16]
splatster	+ another 26 at home	[20:16]
splatster	I would buy the MP if I had enough	[20:16]
splatster	;;caks 300 / 4.5	[20:16]
splatster	;;calc 300 / 4.5	[20:16]
gribble	66.6666666667	[20:16]
zw3x	its $330 actually	[20:17]
splatster	damn	[20:17]
zw3x	;;calc 300 / 4.5	[20:17]
gribble	66.6666666667	[20:17]
zw3x	;;calc 330 / 4.5	[20:17]
gribble	73.3333333333	[20:17]
Ploo_	Which single file in bitcoin's appdata folder is it that carries the wallet value?	[20:17]
Ploo_	is it just wallet.dat?	[20:17]
Ploo_	do I need anything else?	[20:17]
zw3x	yep	[20:17]
splatster	Ploo_: that's it	[20:17]
Ploo_	so It's best I make a copy of that to a memory stick right now	[20:17]
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splatster	I;m buying MP and PPUSD.	[20:18]
splatster	I'm*	[20:18]
zw3x	do you think its unlikely ill find someone willing to buy MP in such amount?	[20:19]
Ploo_	and if i wanna use a different wallet, I just replace the file. Do I need to restart bitcoin or will it catch on?	[20:19]
splatster	z310: No, you'll find a big cat eventually	[20:19]
dareq	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=6887 WTT BTC FOR PPUSD ( You get coins )	[20:20]
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zw3x	splatster, at standard mtgox rate?	[20:21]
draco49	Ploo_ you should backup your wallet.dat regularly, especially after transactions.	[20:21]
splatster	ya	[20:21]
splatster	draco49: You only need to backup your wallet ever 100 TXs	[20:22]
splatster	every*	[20:22]
draco49	I'm paranoid so I backup daily and after any significant xfer	[20:23]
rg	mmm	[20:23]
rg	last samurai was good	[20:23]
splatster	draco49: Okay well you don't need to	[20:23]
draco49	Ya I know	[20:23]
splatster	If you have a backup that is less than 100 TXs old, than all your money is safe	[20:24]
splatster	Anyone selling MP or PP?	[20:24]
draco49	I've never had any problems or needed my backups. But with my luck as soon as I get lazy some shit will happen :p	[20:24]
Raccoon	[11:13] <+splatster> In one card or multiple?	[20:25]
Raccoon	[11:13] one card	[20:25]
Raccoon	[11:14] <+splatster> damn	[20:25]
Raccoon	splatster: what's wrong with a single lump card?	[20:26]
splatster	Raccoon: I don't have enough to buy $300	[20:26]
Raccoon	oh	[20:26]
gilly_	sell 50 USD @ {mtgoxlast} BTC USD in the form of CVS PHARMACY egift cards. smaller amounts acceptable pm me.	[20:26]
splatster	"CVS PHARMACY egift cards?" LOLOLOLOLOL	[20:26]
draco49	LMAO	[20:26]
zw3x	lol	[20:26]
draco49	where's vrag?	[20:27]
Raccoon	what if HE deposits the moneypak and transfers via paypal	[20:27]
splatster	Raccoon: Well not a lot of people like PP	[20:27]
zw3x	lol i actually paid someone an extra fee	[20:27]
zw3x	to buy me a moneypak card	[20:27]
rawrmage	lol	[20:27]
rawrmage	its funny	[20:27]
zw3x	since ive heard paypal to bitcoin	[20:27]
zw3x	is nearly impossible	[20:27]
splatster	well, this sucks	[20:28]
splatster	But hey, thanks to gilly_, now I can buy soap with my bitcoins!	[20:28]
zw3x	i made a mistake of depositing the money to paypal instead of liberty reserve	[20:28]
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Guest43706	zw3x: that was pretty dumb, fix that mistake now	[20:28]
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zw3x	spent one week waiting for some guy to buy me a moneypak card	[20:29]
zw3x	which im now trying to sell	[20:29]
splatster	Well fuck	[20:29]
rawrmage	Fell wuck	[20:29]
zw3x	but people actually do paypal > btc at reasonable rates?	[20:30]
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EvanR	no	[20:30]
splatster	I'm selling at 4.7	[20:30]
splatster	which is reasonable	[20:30]
heisebersch	ok rawmage, im no so far that iwconfig says that there are two wlan devices	[20:30]
NASDAQEnema	zw3x: splatster does 10%	[20:30]
EvanR	reasonable would be +300% premium	[20:30]
heisebersch	but only the dongle can be managed	[20:30]
splatster	;;calc [ticker --last] * 1.1	[20:30]
gribble	4.861989	[20:30]
splatster	I'm doing under 10%	[20:30]
zw3x	this	[20:31]
zw3x	+ paypal gift fee	[20:31]
zw3x	id have to cover like $30	[20:31]
splatster	no fee	[20:31]
heisebersch	it even says "broadcom airforce etc" in the nm-applet, but "device cant be managed"	[20:31]
zw3x	paypal has a gift fee now	[20:31]
splatster	I just traded and there was no fee	[20:31]
splatster	ask NASDAQEnema	[20:31]
splatster	;;calc 4.7 / [ticker --last]	[20:31]
gribble	1.06335322784	[20:31]
splatster	So I'm taking a 6.3% premium	[20:32]
zw3x	not sure about in country transfers	[20:32]
zw3x	but my eu based pp to usa	[20:32]
splatster	ohhh	[20:32]
zw3x	theres a 5% fee	[20:32]
zw3x	or sth like that	[20:32]
splatster	ya	[20:32]
splatster	someone has to have MP or PP that they can sell me	[20:32]
splatster	for god's skae	[20:32]
splatster	sake*	[20:32]
splatster	why is this so damn hard?	[20:33]
zw3x	actually there are fees in-country for me as well	[20:33]
rawrmage	heisebersch: hm	[20:33]
zw3x	its only free for usa transfers	[20:33]
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splatster	Well if you got a smaller MP then I could buy from you	[20:33]
zw3x	is there any way to split up MP cards	[20:34]
zw3x	lol	[20:34]
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splatster	not that I know of	[20:34]
rg	;;ticker	[20:34]
gribble	Best bid: 4.39432, Best ask: 4.41996, Bid-ask spread: 0.02564, Last trade: 4.41997, 24 hour volume: 60277, 24 hour low: 4.21311, 24 hour high: 4.52	[20:34]
NASDAQEnema	rg PM	[20:36]
zw3x	um	[20:37]
zw3x	i have one question	[20:37]
rawrmage	that's nice	[20:38]
zw3x	if im trying to sell at {mtgoxlast}	[20:38]
rawrmage	mhm	[20:38]
zw3x	does the price update as time passes	[20:38]
rawrmage	yes	[20:38]
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splatster	yes	[20:38]
zw3x	or is it calculated at once	[20:38]
zw3x	oh	[20:38]
zw3x	ok	[20:38]
zw3x	thats nice	[20:38]
rawrmage	yes, it is	[20:38]
rg	downloads/complete/panter_2continue_org_info_Total_Recall/info-Total Recall (1990)/info-Total Recall (1990)/info-Total Recall (1990)	[20:38]
rg	lol	[20:38]
rg	someone needs to learn how to make packages	[20:38]
splatster	rg: lolwut?	[20:38]
mircea_popescu	lmao moar spaces!	[20:39]
rg	4 directories to get to the file	[20:39]
rg	FOUR	[20:39]
rg	from a .rar archive	[20:39]
rg	lol	[20:39]
splatster	FOUR!	[20:39]
rg	the best part is:	[20:39]
rg	it was compressed with .rar	[20:39]
rg	its an avi	[20:39]
rawrmage	at least you have tab-complete	[20:39]
rg	its already fucking compressed	[20:39]
jcpham	the movie blows?	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	hahaha	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	be thankful it wasn't put into 4 tar layers	[20:39]
splatster	gzipped 5 times	[20:39]
rg	atleast tar wouldnt waste my cpu cycles	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	that'd be the irony of it	[20:40]
splatster	converted to .flv	[20:40]
jcpham	.rar -store	[20:40]
splatster	then to .mov	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	then matroshka'd	[20:40]
rawrmage	bitcoin "we like even numbers"	[20:41]
splatster	BUY MY BTC, DAMNIT!	[20:42]
jcpham	how much	[20:42]
rg	thats what i love about rar	[20:42]
rg	you can store it uncompressed	[20:42]
rg	but people rarely do it	[20:42]
jcpham	i used to spent a lot of time with rar	[20:42]
jcpham	way back in the day	[20:42]
jcpham	now it's gay as three bunnies blowing tom hanks	[20:43]
splatster	jcpham: 23+ BTC and $21+ GOXUSD	[20:43]
jcpham	too rich for my blood	[20:43]
rg	i need to sell this server	[20:44]
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splatster	jcpham: I don't have to sell it all	[20:44]
rg	i finally found someone who was interested	[20:44]
rg	but theyre lowballing me	[20:44]
rg	bigtime	[20:44]
rg	i gave them a $30 discount, they asked for another $40 off	[20:44]
splatster	rg: Punch 'em in the nuts, then see what happens.	[20:44]
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rg	might as well just give it out for free, i wouldnt make any profit off it lulz	[20:45]
jcpham	the john nash -> nsa letter is worth reading	[20:45]
jcpham	the actual .pdf	[20:45]
splatster	Buying PPUSD should be a fucking breeze	[20:46]
*	phraust rolls the dice.	[20:46]
rg	for the memory of a life time	[20:46]
rg	recall recall recall	[20:46]
splatster	phraust: ?	[20:47]
jcpham	lamest martian flick EVAR	[20:47]
phraust	just put in an order for some of those butterfly labs units.	[20:47]
splatster	phraust: I don't have that much BTC	[20:48]
phraust	oh, I just ut in an order.	[20:48]
phraust	*put	[20:48]
phraust	now I'm out of btc, lol.	[20:48]
splatster	phraust: I'm selling BTC	[20:48]
jcpham	i should go buy more orange enrgy drink	[20:49]
phraust	maybe by week end.	[20:49]
jcpham	i need orange drank	[20:49]
rawrmage	i guess that counts as something happening	[20:49]
splatster	jcpham: Buy an MP while you're out	[20:51]
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rawrmage	the other way would have been nicer though	[20:51]
splatster	Selling BTC at 4.6	[20:52]
splatster	C'mon	[20:53]
jcpham	sell it at 2.5	[20:53]
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splatster	jcpham: I'll buy, how much	[20:53]
splatster	oh	[20:53]
rawrmage	lol	[20:53]
jcpham	how about 60 btc @ 6$	[20:53]
jcpham	i'll sell 60	[20:53]
splatster	I thought you said "selling" not "sell it"	[20:53]
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jcpham	rick ross wrote a song about me	[20:54]
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jcpham	something about hurstlin	[20:54]
vinhpk	I have some coins for sale, does anyone want buy? Pay via ppusd	[20:54]
splatster	vinhpk: Stay away from my market!	[20:55]
*	splatster kills vinhpk	[20:55]
phantomcircuit	vinhpk, have a webcam?	[20:55]
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copumpkin	what phantomcircuit meant to ask was "a/s/l"	[20:56]
splatster	I'll buy at 4.5 for MP, 4.6 for PP	[20:56]
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vinhpk	@splatster: do you have any trouble with me?	[20:56]
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splatster	vinhpk: No, it's just that I am selling BTC too	[20:57]
copumpkin	vinhpk: are you aware of the dangers of selling via paypal? make sure you only sell to reputable people	[20:57]
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splatster	Buying MP and PP.	[20:58]
vinhpk	@copumpkin: I usually trade via ppusd and everything will be OK	[20:58]
copumpkin	vinhpk: just wanted to make sure you understand that you can get screwed pretty badly :) I've gone my whole life without dying yet, so obviously I'll never die ;)	[20:59]
neon__	sell 102 USD @ {mtgoxlast} BTC USD in the form of http://www.thelimited.com/ egift cards. smaller amounts acceptable pm me.	[20:59]
rawrmage	again? sigh	[20:59]
splatster	What the fuck with all these random gift cards?	[21:00]
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copumpkin	neon__: you may have gathered that this channel isn't really the target demographic of that website	[21:00]
neon__	+copumpkin OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange not facebook	[21:00]
splatster	copumpkin: he thinks we're trannys	[21:01]
copumpkin	neon__: sure, just saying that some things sell a lot better than others around here, and women's clothing isn't one of them, so you might be waiting for a while	[21:01]
rawrmage	also it'll take a while when you get kickbanned every time for ban evasion	[21:01]
splatster	Call in the dogs!	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	who let the dogs out	[21:02]
rawrmage	what exchange is 'imcex' and what drugs are they smoking	[21:02]
splatster	Ban evasion is a serious offense! It can get you banned!	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	Buying MP and PP. < mana points and... um,mm... penis points ?!	[21:02]
splatster	mircea_popescu: lolno	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[21:03]
splatster	Moneypak and PayPal	[21:03]
neon__	copumpkin i have sold $300 worth in this channel you must not no your demographic	[21:03]
rawrmage	you must not no your grammar	[21:03]
copumpkin	rawrmage: *ur	[21:03]
splatster	LOLOLOL	[21:03]
copumpkin	*gramerr	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	ya you're right neon___ 300$ he prolly never saw together n his life.	[21:03]
splatster	I no how do english good!	[21:04]
copumpkin	neon__: of thelimited gift cards, or other stuff?	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	splatster now you dun goofed.	[21:04]
neon__	copumpkin thelimited gift cards	[21:04]
splatster	neon__: If vrag was here he would go grammar nazi on you	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	see ? i knew there was wymin here!	[21:04]
jcpham	i love the limited	[21:04]
copumpkin	neon__: why have you been offering the same $102 thing for days now, then?	[21:04]
splatster	copumpkin: LOL	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	it's a different one	[21:05]
rg	rawrmage	[21:05]
rawrmage	rg	[21:05]
rg	what hte hell do you run on your VPS	[21:05]
rg	that takes up so much disk/cpu	[21:05]
rawrmage	which vps	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	he's making pop corn	[21:05]
splatster	lol	[21:05]
rg	texas	[21:05]
copumpkin	a brony bittorrent tracker	[21:05]
copumpkin	with a seedbox too	[21:05]
copumpkin	duh	[21:05]
neon__	i have alot of thelimited gift cards	[21:05]
copumpkin	rawrmage is the ultimate brony	[21:05]
rawrmage	shoutcast	[21:05]
rg	shoutcast shouldnt take cpu	[21:05]
rawrmage	if it's a problem i can stop it i guess	[21:05]
splatster	neon__: All in the same weird ass ammount!	[21:05]
rg	or disk	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	he's running a simulation of a vps running his simulation of a...	[21:06]
rg	13:11:57 up 63 days, 23:52, 1 user, load average: 16.98, 14.06, 9.63	[21:06]
*	phraust goes derper.	[21:06]
rawrmage	that's the only think I can think of	[21:06]
rawrmage	wtf	[21:06]
rg	i need to figure out whyh tis keeps happening	[21:06]
rawrmage	14:12:06 up 11 days, 21:05, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05	[21:06]
copumpkin	neon__: and people are willing to pay market price for them? even more popular gift cards often go for a discount	[21:06]
jcpham	hahah	[21:06]
*	mircea_popescu whistles thinking of all the spam rg is sending w/o knowing	[21:06]
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rg	right..	[21:06]
jcpham	it isn't the guest! it's the host!	[21:06]
rawrmage	why is your load super high but mine isn't if it's my vps causing the problems o.o	[21:06]
splatster	copumpkin: He's an amazing salesman, that's why we all think he's stupid.	[21:06]
neon__	copumpkin yes	[21:07]
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copumpkin	neon__: amazing!	[21:07]
rg	i dunno your vps is constantly taking 31% cpu	[21:07]
splatster	We are not worthy of his amazing gift card selling skills	[21:07]
splatster	neon__: I call BS on that	[21:07]
rawrmage	sc_trans is shoutcast transcoder and that's the only thing that's taking up cpu	[21:07]
rawrmage	and it's always on the top of top with like 15% cpu	[21:08]
neon__	boring	[21:08]
splatster	neon__: You are boring	[21:08]
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splatster	Someone buy my BTC.	[21:10]
splatster	or else...	[21:10]
rg	Val dood, klerelijer!	[21:11]
vinhpk	;;guide	[21:12]
splatster	vinhpk: You should buy a Moneypak and sell it to me.	[21:13]
sturles	;;buy 100 MTGEUR at 1 EUR SEPA bank transfer. Don't pay a withdrawal fee -- sell to me!	[21:15]
gribble	Order id 6890 created.	[21:15]
sturles	;;buy 100 MTGUSD at "{USD in EUR}" EUR SEPA bank transfer. Don't pay a withdrawal fee -- sell to me!	[21:16]
gribble	Order id 6891 created.	[21:16]
splatster	sturles: I have BTC I can exchange for Gox, but I want MP or PP	[21:17]
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sturles	I just sold all my PPUSD for MTGUSD.	[21:17]
DingoRabiit	Buying 10PPusd, Authing in a sec	[21:17]
DingoRabiit	;;auth DingoRabiit	[21:17]
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sturles	Can't use MP. It's U.S. only.	[21:17]
splatster	oh duh	[21:18]
splatster	Someone buy my BTC!	[21:18]
*	gribble gives voice to DingoRabiit	[21:19]
smickles	what rate splatster ?	[21:19]
rg	hrm	[21:19]
splatster	smickles: It's negotiable	[21:19]
rg	i think i need to terminate a client	[21:19]
rg	it appears theyre running a pool from our server	[21:19]
rg	and all the IP's connected are dodgy as fuck	[21:19]
jcpham	bang	[21:19]
splatster	rg: LOL!	[21:19]
rg	its a /24 of blue cross & blue shield	[21:19]
rg	like the whole 24	[21:19]
jcpham	hrm	[21:19]
jcpham	IT guy has some cpu miners!	[21:20]
jcpham	IT guy has some cpu miners!	[21:20]
unclemantis	splatster i have some change i can cash in for a moneypak but I will have to ask you to front the fee of it. It will probably be uner $10 though :(	[21:20]
rawrmage	rg: lol, what	[21:20]
unclemantis	OMG CPU miners? We're fucked	[21:20]
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splatster	unclemantis: Why would I pay a 50% fee?	[21:20]
*	unclemantis shurgs	[21:20]
unclemantis	don't know, don't look at me :)	[21:20]
unclemantis	i am the crazy one	[21:20]
jcpham	i need a vps so i can break rules	[21:21]
DingoRabiit	Does anyone have any spare PPusd? I need to purchase 10PPusd....	[21:21]
rg	hm	[21:21]
rg	i will contact this dude	[21:21]
rg	and see what hte deal is	[21:21]
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rg	lets see	[21:23]
rg	26 days ago	[21:23]
rg	what was the date	[21:23]
DBordello	rg, everything work out for you?	[21:23]
rg	yes	[21:24]
sturles	Heh. 7 of the 10 longest standing offers in the book are mine. The other three are nanotube's. I've got all offers with ID below 4000, including a three digit ID. :-)	[21:24]
rawrmage	lol	[21:24]
unclemantis	sturles thanks again :)	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	omg hax sturles! :D	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	o hey, look, its drobello!	[21:26]
mcorlett	sturles: vanity order ids?	[21:26]
mcorlett	Mqrius: Are you BTCurious on the forums?	[21:27]
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gilly_	m	[21:28]
neon__	sell 102 USD @ {mtgoxlast} BTC USD in the form of http://www.thelimited.com/ egift cards. smaller amounts acceptable pm me.	[21:28]
someguy123	;;bc,gen 300000	[21:29]
someguy123	uhhh gribble?	[21:29]
*	someguy123 pokes gribble	[21:29]
splatster	someone ban neon__	[21:29]
unclemantis	i was about to say something smart splatster	[21:29]
someguy123	nanotube... [19:29:23] Error: invalid syntax (, line 1)	[21:29]
jcpham	you guys are mean	[21:30]
unclemantis	neon__ quit trolling and post that to the book	[21:30]
smickles	;;tell someguy123 i'm ok	[21:30]
smickles	did that work?	[21:30]
someguy123	yeah tell works atleast	[21:30]
unclemantis	;;slap smickles	[21:30]
*	gribble slaps smickles with a similitude GPG key	[21:30]
someguy123	;;bc,gen 300000	[21:30]
mozaka	looking for about 30 bitcoins, bank transfer from eu	[21:30]
unclemantis	IT'S ALIVE!	[21:30]
someguy123	bc,gen is broke though...	[21:30]
jcpham	;;bc,price	[21:30]
smickles	a similitude gpg key, lol	[21:30]
someguy123	;;bc,diff	[21:30]
gribble	timed out	[21:30]
someguy123	yup, even that's broken	[21:30]
jcpham	Next Price Estimate: 5.2629 \| Next Price In About 2 days, 20 hours, 51 minutes, and 34 seconds	[21:30]
splatster	;;action hits [echo $randomNick] with a baseball bat	[21:30]
jcpham	RALLY	[21:30]
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DBordello	Selling PPUSD for BTC if anybody is interested	[21:31]
njstein	;;ident neon__	[21:31]
smickles	;;bc,blocks	[21:31]
splatster	DBordello: MEMEME!	[21:31]
DBordello	lol, relaly?	[21:31]
DBordello	really*	[21:31]
smickles	timed out	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	OMG HE DID IT	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	DBordelol did it!	[21:31]
*	someguy123 pokes nanotube	[21:31]
DBordello	i was on my way to cash my paypal out, figured I'd pop in the channel and give you guys a chance first	[21:31]
pirateat40	what happened?	[21:31]
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*	gribble gives voice to Joric	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	he typoed something!	[21:31]
DingoRabiit	NEED TO BUY 10PPUSD!	[21:31]
someguy123	oh right... blockexplorer.com is still dead	[21:31]
Mqrius	mcorlett: Yeah I am	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	i was waiting for this	[21:31]
someguy123	so gribble is broken too	[21:32]
pirateat40	lol	[21:32]
gilly_	k	[21:32]
pirateat40	;;markwords Dbordello type	[21:32]
DingoRabiit	DBordello: Do you have PPusd forsale?	[21:32]
rawrmage	when we're helpless that's when he strikes?	[21:32]
DBordello	DingoRabiit, yes	[21:32]
mozaka	anyone selling 30 bitcoins? banktransfer	[21:32]
gilly_	sell 50 USD @ {mtgoxlast} BTC USD in the form of CVS PHARMACY egift cards. smaller amounts acceptable pm me.	[21:32]
unclemantis	someguy123 i noticed that like 12 hours ago. wtf?	[21:32]
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rg	hrm	[21:32]
rg	lets see what htis user says	[21:32]
rg	about his VPS	[21:32]
someguy123	unclemantis it's been dead for days	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	gilly_ = neon__ ?	[21:32]
Mqrius	I always use blockchain.info. It's prettier.	[21:33]
someguy123	Mqrius so do I	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	i third that motion.	[21:33]
unclemantis	someguy123 i really didn't notice. I have ben using blockchain.info. Has a LOT of nice information and it is all linkable	[21:33]
someguy123	but gribble uses blockexplorer.com's API for all the ;;bc funcoins	[21:33]
jcpham	i use blockexplorer because it is slower	[21:33]
unclemantis	i think it is programmed in rubyonrails	[21:33]
DingoRabiit	;;ident dbordello	[21:33]
gribble	Nick 'dbordello', with hostmask 'DBordello!~DB@unaffiliated/dbordello', is identified as user DBordello, with GPG key id D56ED50CCA0B95DF, and key fingerprint DDB9ECA68CD6B31CA5FAC4F5D56ED50CCA0B95DF.	[21:33]
someguy123	unclemantis it's JSP actually	[21:33]
someguy123	take a look at their 404 page	[21:33]
unclemantis	gribble needs a backup provider	[21:33]
sturles	mcorlett: Order ID 723 was created 2011-03-03 11:25:38. I had 450 as well, but killed it on it's aniversary. Wasn't profitable any more.	[21:33]
someguy123	it's tomcat.	[21:33]
DingoRabiit	;;query dbordello	[21:34]
DingoRabiit	ffs!	[21:34]
unclemantis	no kidding? I am impressed	[21:34]
someguy123	the fuck? blockchain.info is down	[21:34]
someguy123	or just really slow...	[21:34]
someguy123	not loading for me	[21:34]
unclemantis	its up for me	[21:34]
someguy123	oh its back	[21:34]
rawrmage	that's because you suck, someguy123 :)	[21:35]
someguy123	lol.. it had a lagspike or something	[21:35]
unclemantis	http://www.blockchain.info/tx-index/15855177/c6c5a3a3b79a80e0b55ccdd8fa5955c5d999cfcec588abcec802a008cb4a7f7c	[21:35]
unclemantis	got there in a matter of a few clicks and they where lightningy	[21:35]
someguy123	unclemantis http://blockchain.info/unclemantis	[21:35]
someguy123	apache tomcat.	[21:35]
rawrmage	tomdan	[21:35]
unclemantis	man wtf, germeny is taking over	[21:35]
rg	gribble needs a backup provider	[21:36]
rg	gribble does have a backup provider	[21:36]
rg	nanotube just hasnt accepted its help yet	[21:36]
rg	hrm	[21:37]
rg	does anyone have a tool that shows the information from a wallte.dat	[21:37]
rg	without loading it?	[21:37]
seco	;;bc,blocks	[21:37]
gribble	timed out	[21:37]
seco	;/	[21:37]
rg	anyone?	[21:38]
rg	its important	[21:38]
seco	always when you need him :P	[21:38]
sturles	What information?	[21:38]
rg	does anyone have a tool that shows the information from a wallte.dat	[21:38]
rg	without loading it?	[21:38]
rg	all of it	[21:38]
rg	addresses	[21:38]
rg	balances	[21:38]
seco	rg there are a bunch of python tools fishing private keys out of your wallet.dat: whats your problem?	[21:38]
rg	date/time	[21:38]
rg	seco: im trying to display the transaction log from a wallet.dat	[21:38]
rg	i do believe i am unwillingly hosting a drone net	[21:38]
rg	of bitcoin miners	[21:39]
rg	and they were kind enough to leave their wallet.dat on my server	[21:39]
sturles	bitcoind listtransactions "" ?	[21:39]
rg	and i wnt to find out whats in it	[21:39]
rg	i dont want to load their wallet	[21:39]
rg	that would be unethical	[21:39]
someguy123	rg copy it.	[21:39]
someguy123	:3	[21:39]
rg	i just want to display the information in it	[21:39]
someguy123	cp /derp/wallet.dat /noob/wallet.dat	[21:39]
someguy123	THEN pywallet the /noob/wallet.dat	[21:39]
seco	rg the transaction log is not on the wallet.dat, its on the two blk.files	[21:39]
seco	from what i know^^	[21:40]
rg	--dumpwallet dump wallet in json format	[21:40]
rg	pywallet	[21:40]
rg	thats all i needed	[21:40]
seco	the wallet.dat is a but dumb..it only knows its own tx if	[21:40]
seco	bit*	[21:40]
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heyhei	:;guide	[21:44]
DBordello	;;rate DingoRabiit 1 Smooth transaction.	[21:44]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DingoRabiit has been recorded.	[21:44]
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Joric	seco, on the other side, blk0001.dat is very smart it knows everything )	[21:45]
Joric	it's just a binary concatenation of blocks	[21:45]
seco	yep	[21:45]
seco	im not shure why rg does not want to copy it out, to another offline-computer where current blockchain is downloaded to blk-files and starts it with a --rescan ..thats fastest way to know "whats up" with the privkeys on the wallet.dat he has :)	[21:46]
unclemantis	brb folks	[21:46]
rg	cause if theres nothing wrong, i will hvae violated a users privacy	[21:46]
rg	for nothing	[21:46]
rg	ill just wait til they email me	[21:47]
seco	hmm best case is you read out a bunch of privkeys from the wallet.dat after having dumped it with pywallet: that would be enough investigation to make clear its not source of a drone net?	[21:47]
Joric	speaking of pywallet, looks like jackjacj-jj is lazier than me he still didnt' implement aes decryption	[21:49]
Joric	i did https://github.com/joric/pywallet	[21:49]
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rg	we'll see	[21:50]
rg	if they dont relpy	[21:50]
rg	reply	[21:50]
rg	ill supend the vm	[21:50]
rg	this god damn keyboard	[21:50]
rg	im so sick of it	[21:50]
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mcorlett	Joric: You should be able to bump the max_version up to 60000, both dumping and importing works for me.	[21:51]
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DBordello	;;rate splatster 1 Smooth PP transaction	[21:52]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user splatster has been recorded.	[21:52]
splatster	;;rate DBordello 1 Simple PP trade	[21:53]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DBordello has been recorded.	[21:53]
DBordello	thanks	[21:53]
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danieldaniel	bitcoin	[21:57]
danieldaniel	y u no work	[21:57]
rawrmage	your bitcoins are broken? here, give them to me	[21:58]
danieldaniel	lol	[21:58]
BorGor	someone need ppusd?	[21:59]
danieldaniel	BorGor: no	[21:59]
danieldaniel	pp sux	[21:59]
NASDAQEnema	BorGor: splatster wants	[21:59]
BorGor	yes but he don't want to trade with me because I only have 1 rating lol	[21:59]
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splatster	Oh I sold already	[22:01]
seco	guys is it a "problem" if a new block needs around 20minutes so a transaction is confirmed only after around 20minutes lol?	[22:02]
rawrmage	of course you've sold :)	[22:02]
seco	someone thinks it was a problem :x	[22:02]
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gmaxwell	seco: credit card transactions don't 'confirm' for 6 months. Is it a problem? :)	[22:03]
rg	are there any block xplorer clones	[22:03]
rg	?	[22:03]
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danieldaniel	gmaxwell: LOL	[22:04]
seco	oh well yes, next rating on my profile due to misunderstandment of how things simply work :-/	[22:04]
BorGor	$500 ppusd for 125btc [4$ per btc], if anyone is interested pm me	[22:04]
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seco	just to let you know guys: in a few years it might be NORMAL to wait more then 1 block until you receive a single confirmation....	[22:05]
seco	(if you dont add enough fees to the tx)	[22:05]
rawrmage	le gasp	[22:05]
rawrmage	waiting	[22:05]
rawrmage	the horror	[22:05]
danieldaniel	BorGor: you realize that BTC is currently at 4.37, right?	[22:05]
seco	i decide to wait 1 block of confirmation, and after 5mins ppl think im delaying the trade :x	[22:05]
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seco	gmaxwell: here its 40days, thats country dependency g	[22:07]
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seco	not saying i think every bank can do what it wants in regards of restrict cc payments...	[22:08]
rawrmage	thanks danieldaniel i wasn't sure what the price was	[22:09]
BorGor	danieldaniel: yes I know	[22:09]
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unclemantis	;;voiceme	[22:11]
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unclemantis	back	[22:11]
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rg	woah	[22:12]
rg	you can execute a command	[22:12]
rg	?	[22:12]
rg	pretty sweet	[22:12]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: he's trying to buy at $	[22:12]
danieldaniel	$4*	[22:12]
danieldaniel	Thats why I said that	[22:13]
rawrmage	how do you know he isn't selling	[22:13]
danieldaniel	I assumed he was buying, I guess	[22:13]
danieldaniel	and either way	[22:13]
danieldaniel	it would apply	[22:13]
rg	daniel	[22:13]
danieldaniel	if he was trying to sell at 4	[22:13]
rg	what nationality are you?	[22:13]
danieldaniel	...	[22:14]
danieldaniel	why?	[22:14]
rawrmage	if he was trying to sell at 4, you should buy and not ask questions :P	[22:14]
rg	just curious about your name	[22:14]
danieldaniel	???	[22:14]
rg	your last name, its not obvious what country it comes from	[22:14]
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rg	like my last name	[22:14]
rg	its blatently french	[22:14]
danieldaniel	how do you know my last name	[22:14]
rawrmage	lol	[22:14]
rg	danny i know everything about you	[22:14]
danieldaniel	o.0	[22:14]
danieldaniel	no you dont!	[22:15]
danieldaniel	runs	[22:15]
rg	i know that your dad is a licensed pilot	[22:15]
danieldaniel	no you dont	[22:15]
danieldaniel	wait, how the fuck	[22:15]
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mcorlett	redditcoin is up, if anyone cares.	[22:15]
rawrmage	lol	[22:15]
danieldaniel	redditcoin?	[22:16]
rg	dan	[22:16]
rg	do you smkoe pot	[22:16]
vinhpk	;;guide	[22:16]
rg	for real	[22:16]
danieldaniel	LOL	[22:16]
danieldaniel	NO	[22:16]
rg	cause you were the one who told me	[22:16]
danieldaniel	no	[22:16]
mcorlett	danieldaniel: redditcoin.com	[22:16]
danieldaniel	i don't f***ing smoke pot	[22:16]
rawrmage	i'm so amused	[22:16]
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danieldaniel	wtf	[22:16]
danieldaniel	months?	[22:16]
danieldaniel	what is it?	[22:16]
rg	what is what	[22:17]
rg	chill oot	[22:17]
rawrmage	reddit gold	[22:17]
pirateat40	danieldaniel, do your parents have the curse word filter on your IRC?	[22:17]
mcorlett	danieldaniel: http://www.reddit.com/help/gold	[22:17]
rg	no pirate	[22:17]
rg	hes just a proper gentleman	[22:17]
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pirateat40	Well, if you are going to use the words to make a point you might as well not filter them.	[22:18]
copumpkin	O dp	[22:18]
rg	i wouldve just said	[22:18]
rg	FUUUUUUUUUUU	[22:18]
copumpkin	I don't really see the point of censorship that reveals what was said	[22:18]
NASDAQEnema	can gribble record journal notes for trades?	[22:18]
rg	i dont think so enema	[22:18]
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copumpkin	is the offensive bit the three letters danieldaniel blocked out with asterisks or the fact that he used the word in the first place?	[22:18]
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copumpkin	just like the blurring out of fingers or beeping on movies	[22:19]
rg	hes just freaking out cause he thinks im stalking him	[22:19]
rg	but he usualy tells me these things and i know he'll forget	[22:19]
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rg	so i fuck with him	[22:19]
copumpkin	see, rg says fuc	[22:19]
copumpkin	fuck	[22:19]
copumpkin	I say fuck	[22:19]
rg	we're all adults here	[22:19]
NASDAQEnema	you say I do	[22:19]
rg	everyone has seen teh F word	[22:19]
copumpkin	fucking adults	[22:19]
copumpkin	that's what I do in my spare time	[22:19]
rg	cunt nigger fuck shit ass pussy dick damn hell	[22:19]
rg	ok	[22:20]
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rg	now we've got it out of our system	[22:20]
NASDAQEnema	like I'm about to fuck paypal's blockade	[22:20]
rawrmage	rg: daniel's last name is fairly obviously european though...	[22:20]
danieldaniel	pirateat40: gtfo	[22:20]
copumpkin	which daniel?	[22:20]
danieldaniel	kthxbai	[22:20]
copumpkin	surely you mean	[22:20]
copumpkin	gtfucko	[22:20]
rawrmage	daniel²	[22:20]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: G.T.F.O	[22:20]
danieldaniel	copumpkin: yes, Gtfucko	[22:20]
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rawrmage	hey	[22:20]
copumpkin	danieldaniel: just making sure	[22:20]
rg	is it?	[22:20]
rawrmage	you got people to gtfo	[22:21]
rawrmage	just the wrong people	[22:21]
rg	haha	[22:21]
rg	indeed	[22:21]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: gtfo	[22:21]
copumpkin	man, danieldaniel really wields the power here	[22:21]
rg	HE HAS TEH POWER	[22:21]
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copumpkin	*gtfucko	[22:21]
rawrmage	rg: lol i don't know if i have the same name you have	[22:21]
danieldaniel	*: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_LIR5ExIU	[22:21]
rg	[rawrmage(~servnix@pdpc/supporter/student/rawrmage)] it sounds european	[22:22]
rg	sweet	[22:22]
rg	we've only now narrowed it down to what	[22:22]
rg	20 countries?	[22:22]
rawrmage	lol	[22:22]
danieldaniel	rg: can you gtfo?	[22:22]
danieldaniel	and don't say no	[22:22]
EvanR	tits or gtfo	[22:22]
rg	daniel: i was just asking out of curiosity	[22:22]
rawrmage	rg: my last name is super obvious isn't it	[22:22]
rg	funny, when youre fcking with daniel he doesnt know	[22:22]
rg	but whne you ask a normal question	[22:22]
rg	he freaks out	[22:22]
danieldaniel	rg: GTFO KTHXBAI	[22:22]
rg	danielle i dont know what we'd do without you, seriously	[22:22]
rg	i was afraid youd get banned in the beginning	[22:22]
rg	but you've proven yourslef	[22:23]
rg	you've earned those ginger pubes definitely	[22:23]
copumpkin	lol	[22:23]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: what is the price of a bitcoin going to be tomorrow when I wake up	[22:23]
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NASDAQEnema	two bro fists	[22:23]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: $5094657098097698076098067890876	[22:23]
rawrmage	SWEET	[22:24]
danieldaniel	rg: gtfo	[22:24]
danieldaniel	kthxbai	[22:24]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: you need a better insult than gtfo	[22:24]
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rg	i found daniels pic	[22:24]
rawrmage	gtfo doesn't work unless you're an op	[22:24]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: gtfo	[22:24]
rawrmage	see, it isn't working	[22:24]
danieldaniel	rg: o.0	[22:24]
danieldaniel	pm it to me pl0x	[22:24]
rg	his girlfriend i shot	[22:24]
rg	is hot*	[22:24]
rawrmage	lol	[22:24]
danieldaniel	rg: i don't have a gf	[22:25]
danieldaniel	:P	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	haha	[22:25]
rg	http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/370429_554438081_46711678_n.jpg	[22:25]
rg	/msg	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	seems the CDC published its research on Morgellons disease last month	[22:25]
btclot	pic or didn't happend	[22:25]
danieldaniel	Who the fuck is that????	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	its... nuttery.	[22:25]
danieldaniel	XD	[22:25]
vragnaroda	what an amusing typo	[22:25]
rg	ITS YOU	[22:25]
danieldaniel	LOL	[22:25]
rawrmage	ohaidere, vragnaroda	[22:25]
rg	just kidding	[22:25]
rg	its just some dude	[22:25]
rg	i dunno	[22:25]
danieldaniel	vragnaroda: yo bitch, can you kick rg for me?	[22:25]
danieldaniel	he is sexually abusing me	[22:25]
rawrmage	you certainly know how to convince people to do what you want	[22:26]
copumpkin	danieldaniel: calling people bitch isn't the best way to get them to do something for you	[22:26]
vragnaroda	lolwat	[22:26]
rawrmage	with such a charming lead as 'yo bitch'	[22:26]
NASDAQEnema	mircea_popescu: they had samples - yes nuttery - how about psychological abuse of ppl by casting them as crazy	[22:26]
rg	haha	[22:26]
rg	vrags new nickname is yo bitch	[22:26]
vragnaroda	Is he sending you links to naughty websites again?	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	telling crazy people they are crazy is not abuse.	[22:26]
mcorlett	rg: You do know that you can extract the full profile out of that link, right?	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	telling fat chicks they are fat is not abuse	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	etc.	[22:26]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: you're crazy	[22:26]
rg	no i havent sexually harassed him once	[22:26]
rg	mcorlett: so what	[22:26]
rg	its just some guy	[22:26]
EvanR	premarital sex and masturbation is abuse	[22:26]
danieldaniel	vragnaroda: danieldaniel: OMG WHIPCRACK.ORG IS YOU AND ME	[22:26]
luke-jr	^	[22:27]
EvanR	lol	[22:27]
NASDAQEnema	mircea_popescu: they had samples	[22:27]
danieldaniel	cuz that totally happened	[22:27]
rawrmage	NASDAQEnema: free samples of abuse?	[22:27]
NASDAQEnema	big ones	[22:27]
rg	i swear i didnt sexually harass him once today	[22:27]
copumpkin	is the death penalty abuse, and is euthanasia abuse?	[22:27]
rawrmage	omg	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	lol they had samples. apparentl;y had samples of clothing fibers.	[22:27]
rawrmage	i can't turn down free stuff	[22:27]
rg	im a good person.	[22:27]
luke-jr	copumpkin: just the latter	[22:27]
danieldaniel	rg: you sexually abuse minors	[22:27]
copumpkin	rg only rapes ghosts	[22:27]
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copumpkin	luke-jr: why?	[22:27]
rawrmage	wait	[22:27]
luke-jr	copumpkin: it's murder	[22:27]
danieldaniel	rg: like in this vid:	[22:27]
danieldaniel	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PBptSDIh8	[22:27]
btclot	how much you want for that one	[22:28]
copumpkin	luke-jr: but the former isn't? and what if the latter was explicitly requested by the "victim"?	[22:28]
rawrmage	it's not immoral to kill people as punishment but it's immoral to kill them if they ask for it?	[22:28]
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EvanR	honor killing	[22:28]
vragnaroda	[15:27] <+danieldanie> \| rg: you sexually abuse minors <-- Pics or it didn't happen. :p	[22:28]
luke-jr	copumpkin: the State has the authority from God to put criminals to death	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[22:28]
rawrmage	lol	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha best one yet.	[22:28]
danieldaniel	vragnaroda: whipcrack.org	[22:28]
danieldaniel	I already told you	[22:28]
danieldaniel	:P	[22:28]
rawrmage	god likes the government?	[22:28]
copumpkin	luke-jr: but people in chronic pain with no hope of improvement don't have the authority from God to end their own lives?	[22:29]
NASDAQEnema	i want a pic proving that none of you are sheep molesters	[22:29]
luke-jr	copumpkin: no, they don't.	[22:29]
rawrmage	#bitcoin-otc group photo?	[22:29]
copumpkin	NASDAQEnema: I'd do it, but the only pics I can find of myself have, um, sheep, in them	[22:29]
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danieldaniel	rawrmage: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/051/8/d/troll_face_by_your_goddess-d3a0y1s.png	[22:30]
danieldaniel	thats uz	[22:30]
danieldaniel	us*	[22:30]
rawrmage	um ok?	[22:31]
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Joric	http://www.panelsonpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/group.jpg	[22:31]
rawrmage	Joric: lol	[22:31]
NASDAQEnema	rg can you confirm receiving the bitcoins	[22:32]
rawrmage	luke-jr: does Eligius have authority from God to mine bitcoin blocks	[22:32]
luke-jr	rawrmage: God didn't make bitcoin [directly]	[22:33]
copumpkin	;;rate luke-jr 4 keeps #bitcoin-otc in line when it ventures (morally) astray. Or at least he seems fairly happy to answer my questions about his ideas of morality when I ask them. I may not agree with him, but he seems trustworthy enough	[22:33]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 4 for user luke-jr has been recorded.	[22:33]
rawrmage	oh ok	[22:33]
btclot	Bill Cosby did	[22:33]
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rawrmage	that makes sense then	[22:33]
rawrmage	so you're assuming that Satoshi is human then	[22:33]
Coolty	buy a vps from vertvps.com	[22:33]
NASDAQEnema	I'm going to make george carlin coin	[22:33]
copumpkin	;;rate mircea_popescu 4 I've bought a few options from him and he seems legit	[22:34]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 4 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.	[22:34]
rawrmage	what is bitcoin came out of nowhere in reality and Satoshi is just a rift in space-time	[22:34]
rawrmage	and what if Stack were guilty	[22:34]
EvanR	...	[22:34]
NASDAQEnema	Satoshi is Jesus digitized	[22:34]
btclot	I wonder what satoshi is doing now.	[22:35]
copumpkin	btclot: masturbating	[22:35]
rawrmage	btclot: masturbating	[22:35]
NASDAQEnema	lol	[22:35]
danieldaniel	lol	[22:35]
copumpkin	;;rate rawrmage 4 great minds think alike	[22:35]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rawrmage has changed from 1 to 4.	[22:35]
EvanR	kicking himself for reformatted the first million btc	[22:35]
Joric	why there's such a huge buy/sell spread on bitcoinica, where it comes from	[22:35]
btclot	He has enough money to have someone doing that for him.	[22:35]
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copumpkin	Joric: big orders :)	[22:35]
copumpkin	Joric: it isn't particularly large right now, though	[22:35]
NASDAQEnema	EvanR: they are somewhere out there	[22:35]
btclot	Well he/she	[22:35]
rawrmage	i wonder what's the largest bitcoinica's spread has ever been	[22:36]
copumpkin	rawrmage: I've seen close to a dollar	[22:36]
rawrmage	wow	[22:36]
rawrmage	i hope nobody was silly enough to open a position then	[22:36]
Joric	does someone have a long position there	[22:36]
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rawrmage	Joric: i'd say many people have long positions there	[22:37]
rawrmage	why?	[22:37]
NASDAQEnema	god all this dirty talk - long, position, spread, there	[22:37]
copumpkin	my length is none of Joric's business	[22:37]
rawrmage	especially as long swap is -$0.19 lol	[22:37]
danieldaniel	anyone have a bit instant code?	[22:38]
danieldaniel	bitcoinca*	[22:38]
rawrmage	well presumably I could make one	[22:38]
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danieldaniel	rawrmage: do it	[22:38]
rawrmage	why	[22:38]
danieldaniel	ill give you 5 hugs	[22:39]
Joric	NASDAQEnema, did you notice there's a MACD crossover and the RSI felt down to 34.8% it's definitely time to buy	[22:39]
Joric	or sell, not sure about that	[22:39]
copumpkin	OMG	[22:39]
copumpkin	the tea leaves have spoken	[22:39]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: ok?	[22:39]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: BITCOINICA-USD-A362A85A-FB8E-4519-BF81-5F870BFD5CF1	[22:39]
danieldaniel	:(	[22:39]
danieldaniel	Thank you! You have successfully deposited 0.00007 USD.	[22:39]
rawrmage	-7.0e-5	[22:40]
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NASDAQEnema	well I justt created 684 service shares for rg's servers	[22:40]
Joric	put your kids through college with this some day	[22:40]
rawrmage	Joric: you drew lines, and they crossed?	[22:40]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: ok so invest it in bitcoin, and when the price goes up like you told me it would, sell	[22:40]
NASDAQEnema	114 servshares buy a month of his openvz-1 service	[22:40]
Joric	rawrmage, yes, can you believe it	[22:40]
danieldaniel	server shares?	[22:41]
vragnaroda	> time to buy	[22:41]
vragnaroda	> or sell, not sure about that	[22:41]
danieldaniel	vragnaroda: XD	[22:41]
rawrmage	isn't speculation fun	[22:41]
NASDAQEnema	selling them for LTC, BTC, PP	[22:41]
vragnaroda	Your own confidence in your methodology impresses me greatly, young padawan.	[22:41]
Joric	still 4.37 on bitcoinica what a stupid site	[22:41]
rawrmage	they have to make bits some how	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	carlincoin sounds pretty good	[22:42]
rawrmage	holy crap I see a message in the bitcoinica charts	[22:42]
rawrmage	i need to post this for y'all	[22:42]
Joric	solidcoins is the way to prosperity	[22:42]
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rawrmage	GUYS	[22:44]
rawrmage	http://i.imgur.com/78MHn.png	[22:44]
vragnaroda	lol	[22:44]
phraust	lol	[22:44]
dracx	;;guide	[22:44]
gribble	Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc	[22:44]
phraust	it's a sign.	[22:45]
mod6	pff.	[22:45]
copumpkin	rawrmage: holy shit, it's satoshi speaking to us! time to found something like reddit.com/r/inglip	[22:45]
rawrmage	lol	[22:45]
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unclemantis	i am looking for cheap, secure wallet hosting for a project i am working on. Any bids?	[22:45]
NASDAQEnema	;;rate rg 2 2nd trade very cool dude - 684 service shares for 6 months of his OpenVZ-1 created - 114 shares = 1 month	[22:45]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rg has changed from 1 to 2.	[22:45]
phraust	unclemantis, what about blockchain.info ?	[22:45]
unclemantis	they only allow up to 100 addresses	[22:46]
unclemantis	plus he takes a 0.005 cut on EVERY outgoing transaction	[22:46]
danieldaniel	NASDAQEnema: service shares?	[22:46]
unclemantis	no problem with the cut, it is worth it, but he has a limit of 100 addresses per wallet	[22:47]
NASDAQEnema	yes	[22:47]
NASDAQEnema	I paid him for 6 months worth but I'm not using it	[22:47]
Joric	unclemantis, i cant' find it in their TOS it must be really well hidden	[22:47]
NASDAQEnema	I'm reselling as shares which we can use for liquidity in otc	[22:47]
Joric	i remember it was 0.01 BTC per transaction	[22:48]
rawrmage	wait, who uses the service	[22:48]
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unclemantis	Joric it is 0.01 per transaction. 0.005 goes into his pocket and the other goes to the minners if the transaction is under 1.0btc	[22:48]
unclemantis	no wait	[22:48]
unclemantis	it is 0.01 regardless of transaction size	[22:49]
luke-jr	unclemantis: you just said 0.005	[22:49]
Joric	rawrmage, idk it looks very convenient, you're just uploading your private keys to the site... aaand it's gone!	[22:49]
unclemantis	normaly it would be free over 1btc	[22:49]
unclemantis	luke-jr yes I did	[22:49]
luke-jr	unclemantis: not true	[22:49]
unclemantis	luke-jr he is splitting the difference	[22:49]
luke-jr	there are a lot of factors involved in transaction fees	[22:49]
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luke-jr	for ewallets, other people's transactions affect the fees for your transaction	[22:49]
unclemantis	well he is charging 0.01 per transaction sent. 0.005 goes to the network and 0.005 goes into a personal wallet of his	[22:50]
luke-jr	this is why they need to simply set a fixed fee rate	[22:50]
phraust	man, the globe thingy on blockchain.info is badass.	[22:50]
luke-jr	unclemantis: sometimes 0.02 goes to the network maybe	[22:50]
rawrmage	Joric: i meant with the shares thing	[22:50]
unclemantis	not from what i saw	[22:50]
rawrmage	Joric: 684 shares split up among a bunch of people, who is actually using it? lol	[22:50]
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Joric	https://blockchain.info/wallet/faq A 0.01 BTC flat fee is included in all outgoing transaction. If the transaction is low priority the 0.01 BTC will be allocated to miners otherwise the fee is sent to blockchain.info.	[22:51]
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unclemantis	https://blockchain.info/tx-index/15820418/128446412c520cd87bce50aca2a65e6fd887b79ac13c5e1e7c95a8ed44fe9bb8	[22:51]
Joric	'Receiving funds is absolutely free' well thanks for that	[22:51]
luke-jr	unclemantis: that's ONE txn	[22:51]
unclemantis	https://blockchain.info/address/641ad5051edd97029a003fe9efb29359fcee409d	[22:51]
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unclemantis	there are all his transactions	[22:51]
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unclemantis	this is the blockchain.info fee address	[22:52]
Joric	fuck this i'm not gonna pay a bitcent per every transaction	[22:52]
Joric	they should make it free	[22:52]
unclemantis	i just off loaded my wallet to Electrum	[22:52]
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unclemantis	the guy is using a dedicated colo server, gotta pay the bills somehow	[22:53]
Joric	also blockchain.info design is terrible	[22:53]
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unclemantis	it is twitter bootstrap	[22:53]
bougyman	that doesn't make it not horrible.	[22:53]
Joric	no it's blockchain.info, mostly	[22:53]
bougyman	but I just looked at it, and the design isn't horrible.	[22:53]
bougyman	a little busy on the lower right, but not overly so.	[22:54]
unclemantis	https://blockchain.info/Resources/bootstrap.min.css	[22:54]
unclemantis	as you where saynig	[22:54]
Joric	seriously? every single number is a button	[22:55]
unclemantis	anyways i am looking for a place to host a wallet for a project i am working on.	[22:55]
rawrmage	Joric: bitcoinica's spread is a lil more sensible now!	[22:55]
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Joric	oh gawd there was a spike my buying order executed at 4.36	[22:56]
rawrmage	lol	[22:56]
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rawrmage	whatever shall you do	[22:56]
Joric	4.3404 even	[22:57]
rawrmage	at least you didn't go long at like 4.45	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	or 7.5	[22:57]
splatster	lol	[22:57]
Joric	im going long, now i wish bitcoin economy live long and prosper	[22:57]
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rawrmage	ok i don't think 4.45 and 7.5 are quite the same level of bad	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	there seems to be a little buy pressure mounting	[22:58]
*	mircea_popescu remembers the times he bought 60btc around 15 each	[22:58]
rawrmage	lol	[22:58]
Joric	i bet all 7.5 longs are already liquidated	[22:58]
rawrmage	unless they're 1:1	[22:58]
splatster	Oh that would suck ass	[22:58]
Joric	i bought most my bitcoins at 7.13	[22:59]
splatster	If someone went long on 7.5 and hasn't liquidated	[22:59]
Joric	whoa double asterisked	[22:59]
splatster	I bought a lot at 6.4	[22:59]
Joric	there's something happening	[22:59]
splatster	OMG! Wait, what's happening?	[22:59]
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Joric	i've just seen double asterisks	[23:00]
splatster	oh	[23:00]
Joric	out of reserve on either sides	[23:00]
Guest43160	zhoutonged	[23:00]
rawrmage	meh	[23:00]
splatster	SHIT IS GOING TO HAPPEN!	[23:00]
splatster	AHHHH!	[23:00]
rawrmage	it wasn't that long ago we were at 3 guys	[23:00]
rawrmage	:P	[23:00]
Guest43160	2.30 even	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=1&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0& fascinating	[23:00]
rawrmage	hi btchero who isn't btchero	[23:00]
splatster	Ya and it wasn't that long ago we were at 7.2	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	look at all those understicks, no oversticks at all	[23:01]
unclemantis	that is why i am staying far the fuck away from bitcoinica	[23:01]
rawrmage	mircea_popescu: what does that even mean	[23:01]
mcorlett	Zhou's Tongue.	[23:01]
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btcheroaway	how did you know?	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	you know how a candle has a body and two sticks ?	[23:01]
splatster	btcheroaway: I don't think you're away	[23:01]
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btcheroaway	away from my home	[23:01]
splatster	Ya I saw that too	[23:01]
splatster	oh	[23:01]
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btcheroaway	mmm ok	[23:02]
rawrmage	yes i understand that that's the low thingy but what does it signify as a trend you think	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	how do you think he knew lol	[23:02]
splatster	why not BTCHeroAwayFromHome?	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	i have no ideea rawr	[23:02]
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rawrmage	maybe we should buy	[23:02]
BTCHeroAwayFromH	damn	[23:02]
rawrmage	or maybe we should sell	[23:02]
BTCHeroAwayFromH	too long	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	exactly that.	[23:02]
rawrmage	long?	[23:02]
rawrmage	omg panic	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	lmao i like edgy traders	[23:02]
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BTCHeroSchool	does this work for you guys	[23:02]
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BTCHeroAwyfrmHme	yay	[23:03]
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BTCHeroAwyfrmHme	fuck this	[23:03]
rawrmage	lol	[23:03]
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rawrmage	mircea_popescu: why do you like edgy traders?	[23:03]
danieldaniel	anyone know how I can deposit cash and get bitcoins?	[23:03]
BTCHeroSchool	So do you guys want to buy my insight into the market	[23:03]
danieldaniel	BESIDES bitinstant	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	more fun to be around in chat ?	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	danieldaniel : mtgox no ?	[23:03]
BTCHeroSchool	I am now selling my advice	[23:03]
rawrmage	mtgox got rid of chase a while ago didn't they	[23:04]
danieldaniel	besides bitinstant	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	can i pay in negatives ?	[23:04]
BTCHeroSchool	No	[23:04]
splatster	Does anyone here remember BEEEEEEEEEEEES?	[23:04]
Joric	So do you guys want to buy my insight into the market <- random.org	[23:04]
danieldaniel	lol	[23:04]
BTCHeroSchool	Joric some people seem to do it :)	[23:04]
rawrmage	BTCHeroSchool: give us a vague prediction :3	[23:04]
NASDAQEnema	;;rate rg 2 2nd trade - 684 shares created prices: BTC/USD 4.39, BTC/LTC .00189999, 5.26318559 LTC per share .01 BTC per share, .439 USD per share	[23:04]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rg has changed from 2 to 2.	[23:04]
unclemantis	so you all like to BET on the outcome of things don't you?	[23:05]
rawrmage	NASDAQEnema: what does a share get you	[23:05]
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BTCHeroSchool	It will go down, but if it doesn't it will go up	[23:05]
rawrmage	great thanks	[23:05]
BTCHeroSchool	but it will not be 4.30 next week	[23:05]
BTCHeroSchool	no problem	[23:05]
vragnaroda	"What goes down must go up"?	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	In Münchausen by Proxy syndrome, an adult caregiver either makes a child appear sick by fabricating symptoms, or actually causes harm to the child, in order to gain the attention of medical providers and others. In order to perpetuate the medical relationship, the caregiver systematically misrepresents symptoms, fabricates signs, manipulates laboratory tests, or even purposefully harms the child (e.g. by poisoning, suffocation, infection, physic	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	al injury).[5] Studies have shown a mortality rate of between 6% and 10% of MSbP victims, making it perhaps the most lethal form of child abuse.	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	factoid of the day.	[23:05]
Joric	S3052 predicts 40% off his subscription price	[23:05]
rawrmage	lol	[23:05]
NASDAQEnema	rawrmage 114 shares will pay 1 month of rg's OpenVZ-1 service	[23:05]
Joric	3 btc a month versus 5 btc	[23:06]
BTCHeroSchool	s3052 is my hero	[23:06]
rawrmage	NASDAQEnema: but what if I buy 1 share	[23:06]
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vragnaroda	Joric: Chicken entrails?	[23:06]
BTCHeroSchool	BTCHero's hero	[23:06]
rauskimon	an1 have graphic cards for sale @ btc? :P	[23:06]
danieldaniel	What are shares?????	[23:06]
rawrmage	What is love????	[23:06]
rawrmage	baby don't hurt me	[23:06]
danieldaniel	no	[23:06]
danieldaniel	seriously	[23:06]
*	MBS hurts rawrmage	[23:07]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: GTFO NOW	[23:07]
BTCHeroSchool	a portion of something	[23:07]
NASDAQEnema	you can buy shares for 5.26 LTC (base price obviously I'm looking to profit here)	[23:07]
rawrmage	i don't get why you think telling me to gtfo is going to leave	[23:07]
rawrmage	it didn't work the last 20 times	[23:07]
danieldaniel	NASDAQEnema: shares of what?	[23:07]
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rawrmage	Joric: i like the poll on bitcoinbullbear.com	[23:07]
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NASDAQEnema	of rg's OpenVZ-1 service 114 shares buys a month	[23:08]
rawrmage	do you think he takes the poll results	[23:08]
rawrmage	and uses it to make his graphs	[23:08]
danieldaniel	ok, but why are you buying shares?	[23:08]
danieldaniel	im confused	[23:08]
BTCHeroSchool	bitvps is going to stop accepting bitcoins no?	[23:08]
rg	NASDAQEnema: rawrmage was our first customer	[23:08]
rg	no, i was just upset btchero	[23:08]
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Joric	danieldaniel, share is a hash with high 32 bits set to zero	[23:08]
rg	we will continue to function	[23:08]
BTCHeroSchool	ok	[23:08]
NASDAQEnema	I'm selling shares not buying	[23:08]
danieldaniel	im confused	[23:08]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: you gotta share	[23:08]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: you gotta care	[23:08]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: I said to gtfo	[23:08]
danieldaniel	kthxbai	[23:08]
NASDAQEnema	Joric not pool shares	[23:08]
danieldaniel	omg	[23:09]
rg	we're gonna start accepting other currencies though	[23:09]
rg	i havent decided if under the same name	[23:09]
rg	or not	[23:09]
BTCHeroSchool	didn't you try amazon payments and got nothing but scams?	[23:09]
Staatsfeind	/msg chanserv op #bitcoin-otc	[23:09]
Staatsfeind	/kick danieldaniel gtfo kthxbai	[23:09]
danieldaniel	D:	[23:09]
NASDAQEnema	BTCHeroSchool: with my shares I take the risk, rg already got paid	[23:10]
rawrmage	what happens if I buy just one share	[23:10]
rawrmage	just one	[23:10]
NASDAQEnema	you can trade it or hold onto it	[23:10]
Staatsfeind	“just the tip”	[23:10]
rg	BTCHeroSchool: that was one person	[23:11]
Joric	but it will not be 4.30 next week <- great prediction! how much do i owe you?	[23:11]
rg	hes gone now	[23:11]
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BTCHeroSchool	I just reduced my rate to 2.99 btc Joric	[23:11]
NASDAQEnema	rawrmage: I'm selling and buying my shares for PP, LTC, BTC	[23:11]
rawrmage	right	[23:11]
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rawrmage	aww	[23:12]
rawrmage	i only have 4 ltc	[23:12]
NASDAQEnema	1 share is 5.26 LTC + my profit (which I haven't decided yet)	[23:12]
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rawrmage	hi smickles	[23:13]
smickles	hi rawrmage :)	[23:13]
NASDAQEnema	rawrmage: mine some or trade on vircurex - in any case	[23:13]
Staatsfeind	안녕하세요, smickles씨.	[23:13]
NASDAQEnema	say goodbye to liquidity problems (soon)	[23:13]
smickles	damn Staatsfeind, you keyboard isn't working well	[23:13]
NASDAQEnema	Imma go write up the papers for it	[23:14]
rawrmage	i want to make a trade on mtgox with 666 in it	[23:14]
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NASDAQEnema	I'm psyched - paypal can kiss my ass	[23:14]
Joric	napoleon dynamite is a cartoon now	[23:15]
Staatsfeind	smickles: It's working fine. :þ	[23:15]
NASDAQEnema	^ that scares me	[23:15]
rawrmage	Joric: the rsi went back up what does it mean	[23:15]
Staatsfeind	NASDAQEnema: What scares you?	[23:15]
rawrmage	omg	[23:15]
rawrmage	panic	[23:15]
rg	we're gonna start accepting paypal	[23:15]
rg	i think	[23:15]
rawrmage	SOMETHING CHANGED	[23:16]
rg	paypal or amazon again	[23:16]
Joric	i like it, napoleon and kip remind luke and gavin	[23:16]
rg	boh are pretty evil	[23:16]
rg	both*	[23:16]
Staatsfeind	rg: Have you thought about Google Checkout?	[23:16]
BTCHeroSchool	yeah, but you can prove you rendered service so chargebacks would be harder no?	[23:16]
rg	fees are the same as paypal	[23:16]
jine	Have anyone seen a1bitcoinpool.com? :)	[23:16]
jine	django app for... jobs against bitcoins?	[23:17]
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Staatsfeind	Yes, I know the fees are comparable, but some might think they're less evil.	[23:17]
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jine	With shitload of security issues :P	[23:17]
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Joric	'rsi went back, what does it mean, great chief?'	[23:17]
rg	Staatsfeind: i'd rather use the one which is used more widely	[23:17]
rawrmage	jine: i don't understand how that is a bitcoin pool	[23:17]
NASDAQEnema	rg I'll create shares whenever I've got the BTCs	[23:17]
jine	rawrmage: It's a new project, by the same scamming person as before	[23:17]
jine	url in django debug info says btcnetwork.com	[23:17]
rawrmage	lol	[23:18]
jine	http://btcnetwork.com/asd <-- debug! :P	[23:18]
Joric	my long position is still negative	[23:19]
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Joric	if only it was a bit longer :(	[23:20]
NASDAQEnema	rg I recorded the summary of the contract in your rating - going to create an interface for tracking	[23:20]
rg	do whatever you want	[23:21]
rg	aslong as i dont have to do anything	[23:21]
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rawrmage	Joric: go buy 10k coins for me	[23:21]
NASDAQEnema	rg - pleasure doing biz	[23:22]
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rg	i need to vacuum in here	[23:22]
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danieldaniel	sooo	[23:24]
danieldaniel	would anyone be willing to do a cash deposit for btc deal?	[23:25]
danieldaniel	with a less than bit instant fee?	[23:25]
rawrmage	bitinstant?	[23:25]
rawrmage	lol	[23:25]
danieldaniel	yeah, its like $10 in total	[23:25]
danieldaniel	which is outrageous for a $150 deposit	[23:25]
rawrmage	why don't you buy a MP then	[23:25]
rawrmage	it's just $5	[23:25]
rawrmage	and you use cash	[23:25]
danieldaniel	because everyone was having trouble selling them	[23:26]
rawrmage	then take the fee	[23:26]
danieldaniel	if anyone could promise to buy one	[23:26]
danieldaniel	i would be glad	[23:26]
BTCHeroSchool	5.00 per ill buy it	[23:26]
BTCHeroSchool	for sure	[23:26]
danieldaniel	no, I want to pay less than $10 total	[23:26]
danieldaniel	I'm already paying $5 for the mp	[23:26]
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mod6	i think most people prefer mp, at least compared to ppusd.	[23:27]
rg	daniel what do you need?	[23:27]
rawrmage	danieldaniel: you may just have to suck it up and take the fee if you want it that way	[23:27]
danieldaniel	rg: mtgusd or btc	[23:27]
rg	for how long	[23:27]
danieldaniel	what do you mean for how long?	[23:27]
rg	i thouht you were looking for a loan	[23:28]
danieldaniel	oh	[23:28]
danieldaniel	no	[23:28]
rawrmage	lol	[23:28]
rawrmage	how do you get that out of the scrollback, rg	[23:28]
danieldaniel	rawrmage: ikr	[23:28]
rg	i didnt read it	[23:28]
danieldaniel	rg: thanks for offering though	[23:28]
danieldaniel	lol	[23:28]
rg	hence the 'what do you want'	[23:28]
rawrmage	lol	[23:28]
Joric	guy better tell how to trade on bitcoinica properly, say i want to buy some at market price and autoliquidate the position at 4.4 is that possible?	[23:29]
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rawrmage	probably	[23:30]
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Joric	i just should place a sell order at 4.4 ? what will happen with the position after that?	[23:33]
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mcorlett	Block please!	[23:35]
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rawrmage	Joric: place a limit sell order at 4.4, afaik	[23:36]
bitinstant	rawrmage, we have to pay bank and licensing fees.	[23:38]
bitinstant	And its not $10	[23:38]
bitinstant	Its $6.00	[23:38]
bitinstant	Our profit is $2.00	[23:38]
bitinstant	Im sorry we cant be lower	[23:38]
bitinstant	For a $150.00 deposit	[23:38]
rawrmage	bitinstant: hmm?	[23:39]
rawrmage	bitinstant: it's not me, it's danieldaniel :)	[23:39]
NASDAQEnema	bitinstant - interested in trading service shares	[23:39]
danieldaniel	bitinstant: ok, i see	[23:40]
bitinstant	Ah ok sorry	[23:40]
bitinstant	:)	[23:40]
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bitinstant	NASDAQEnema, what do you mean ?	[23:40]
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danieldaniel	;;ident	[23:41]
gribble	You are identified as user danieldaniel, with GPG key id C5D21E9BDCAE3594, and key fingerprint 4761C0C9EA65B824459AF736C5D21E9BDCAE3594.	[23:41]
NASDAQEnema	I bought rg's vps service in bulk but I'm not using it - I'm reselling as shares in PP, BTC, LTC	[23:41]
NASDAQEnema	essentially I'm creating liquidity using paid for unprovisioned service	[23:42]
mod6	you said like ~600 shares right?	[23:42]
NASDAQEnema	684 shares	[23:42]
NASDAQEnema	6 months - 1 month 114 shares	[23:42]
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mod6	if I want to get a host, how many shares is that. say 4CPU/12GbRam?	[23:43]
NASDAQEnema	mod6 that'll be a while	[23:43]
mod6	is that how its divided up?	[23:43]
jine	I want a few thousand bitcoins, anyone wanna give it to me?	[23:43]
jine	:D	[23:43]
bitinstant	No thanks :)	[23:43]
NASDAQEnema	I only purchased 6.84 BTCs worth	[23:43]
jine	To bad :(	[23:43]
mod6	jine: same	[23:43]
mod6	NASDAQEnema: oh, ok. thanks. just was curious.	[23:44]
NASDAQEnema	mod6 I hope to cycle this through enough times to do that	[23:44]
NASDAQEnema	each share is 5.26 litecoins + my profit which I'm thinking will be 7.5%	[23:45]
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mcorlett	I have a Humble Bundle Mojam I'd like to get rid of, anyone interested?	[23:46]
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foo923019	1 / ( 1.05 * 1.1953 * 0.5 * ({mtgoxbid} + {mtgoxask}) )	[23:48]
foo923019	what a price!	[23:48]
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mcorlett	Looks like an overall positive response from my fellow redditors: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/py8uj/hey_rbitcoin_ive_created_a_service_that_sells/	[23:57]
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jcpham	i have hhtp allergies	[23:58]
rg	;;calc 1 / ( 1.05 * 1.1953 * 0.5 * ({mtgoxbid} + {mtgoxask}) )	[23:59]

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