Forum logs for 20 Dec 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

EskimoBob	what, you guys are not happy for me? :)	[00:01]
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Anduck	hi	[00:04]
Anduck	any s.dice sellers	[00:04]
Anduck	=	[00:04]
Anduck	brokers	[00:04]
Anduck	=	[00:04]
Anduck	???	[00:04]
Anduck	Azelphur=	[00:05]
Anduck	?	[00:05]
Anduck	=->?*	[00:05]
Azelphur	Anduck=	[00:05]
Anduck	do you have mpex acc?	[00:05]
Anduck	i think u did	[00:05]
Azelphur	yea	[00:05]
Anduck	or i remember wrong	[00:05]
Azelphur	smickles: does brokerage iirc	[00:05]
mod6	jurov does brokerage	[00:05]
Anduck	do you wanna be ma broker for S.DICE?	[00:05]
dub	midnightmagic: thats coingenuity afaik	[00:05]
Anduck	yay	[00:05]
Anduck	what are their fees?	[00:05]
Anduck	and how much Azelphur takes as fee?	[00:05]
Anduck	cuz i would prefer Azelphur cuz he's here and i like him	[00:05]
Azelphur	I don't do brokerage, so try the others first	[00:05]
Anduck	:(	[00:06]
Anduck	ok	[00:06]
Anduck	smickles ?	[00:06]
Anduck	ya there?	[00:06]
smickles	yo	[00:06]
Anduck	how much ya take fee for s.dice brokerage?	[00:06]
smickles	min(3%,.5btc)	[00:06]
Anduck	pretty heavy fee	[00:06]
dub	Anduck: https://coinbr.com/ref?c=A3R7Tstq16	[00:06]
smickles	it seems to be the cheapest on the market	[00:07]
smickles	no fees other than that commission on buys/sells	[00:07]
smickles	and I give .1% apy on btc balances	[00:07]
Anduck	apy?	[00:07]
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smickles	interest	[00:08]
Anduck	hmmm	[00:08]
Anduck	smickles: are you trusted?	[00:08]
Anduck	i don't really remember - sorry	[00:08]
smickles	;;getrating smickles	[00:08]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com . User smickles, rated since Wed Jan 4 18:28:52 2012. Cumulative rating 78, from 48 total ratings. Received ratings: 47 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 47 positive, 5 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=smickles	[00:08]
jcpham	barely	[00:08]
smickles	;;ident	[00:08]
gribble	You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6	[00:08]
Anduck	yeah u are	[00:08]
jcpham	anduck don't let gribble fool you	[00:08]
dub	Azelphur: you should pop my rating cherry	[00:08]
Anduck	mm jcpham hmmmm	[00:08]
Azelphur	;;rated dub	[00:08]
gribble	You have not yet rated user dub	[00:08]
Azelphur	o.O	[00:08]
smickles	;;rated jcpham	[00:09]
gribble	You rated user jcpham on Thu Aug 16 09:11:10 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: None.	[00:09]
jcpham	;;rated smickles	[00:09]
gribble	You rated user smickles on Wed Aug 15 10:56:42 2012, giving him a rating of 5, and supplied these additional notes: Top notch community member..	[00:09]
Azelphur	;;rate dub 1 Asked me to pop his rating cherry	[00:09]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.	[00:09]
jcpham	smickles if we've rated each other, does that mean we are in collusion?	[00:09]
Azelphur	dub: how do you not have a rating after all this time	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	;;rated dub	[00:09]
gribble	You have not yet rated user dub	[00:09]
Azelphur	and running a pool	[00:09]
Azelphur	lol	[00:09]
jcpham	i think i have ratings for pigeons also	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	omg poor dub	[00:09]
dub	;;rate Azelphur fulfilled mining contract for ~30BTC	[00:10]
gribble	Error: 'fulfilled' is not a valid integer.	[00:10]
kakobrekla	dub has a pool?	[00:10]
dub	;;rate Azelphur 1 fulfilled mining contract for ~30BTC	[00:10]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Azelphur has been recorded.	[00:10]
Azelphur	xD	[00:10]
dub	Azelphur: I only regged yesterday	[00:10]
Azelphur	ah	[00:10]
jcpham	;;rate dub 1 wastes much time on irc	[00:10]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.	[00:10]
thestringpuller	lol	[00:10]
pigeons	congrats EskimoBob	[00:10]
pigeons	i imagine you'll be hearing from the investor	[00:11]
thestringpuller	smickles: i want to put more money on account with you	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	;;rate dub 1 he's been around a while.	[00:11]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.	[00:11]
EskimoBob	I guess so. Guy placed like 290+ BTC	[00:11]
EskimoBob	This is getting truly exiting	[00:12]
smickles	thestringpuller: pm me :)	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	;;getrating dub	[00:12]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask dub!dub@unaffiliated/dub . User dub, rated since Wed Dec 19 14:09:17 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=dub	[00:12]
dub	;;rate mircea_popescu 2 owns MPEX, hasnt stolen my BTC	[00:13]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	omg	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	i think that makes me	[00:13]
makomk	malaimo markedathome maximian midnightmagic MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mod6	[00:13]
makomk	malaimo markedathome maximian midnightmagic MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mod6	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	;;getrating mircea_popescu	[00:13]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu . User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 100, from 46 total ratings. Received ratings: 45 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 56 positive, 7 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	100!	[00:13]
dub	the first person not to steal my btc?	[00:13]
dub	oh	[00:13]
thestringpuller	;;getrating thestringpuller	[00:13]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User thestringpuller, rated since Mon Oct 15 15:46:37 2012. Cumulative rating 5, from 4 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=thestringpuller	[00:13]
thestringpuller	5?	[00:13]
dub	;;getrating jurov	[00:13]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User jurov, rated since Fri Jan 20 15:16:32 2012. Cumulative rating 14, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 9 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 6 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jurov	[00:13]
thestringpuller	howd that hapoen	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	i am now in that select club of three digiteers.	[00:14]
dub	;;ident jurov	[00:14]
gribble	Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@84.245.71.31', is not identified.	[00:14]
dub	jurov is our jurov?	[00:14]
pigeons	yes	[00:14]
jurov	need to do business?	[00:14]
pigeons	more fun to not auth and see what happens	[00:14]
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pigeons	now we watch EskimoBob crash the price of litecoin as he cashes out to buy his equipment	[00:16]
jcpham	if litecoin price crashes, does anyone really lose?	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	wait you can actually sell litecoin ?	[00:17]
jcpham	i keep hearing about it	[00:17]
jcpham	i think there is an exchange	[00:17]
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mircea_popescu	i must confess, of all drama sources for this wednesday the last thing i was expecting was r.ver going berserk.	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	btc drama has much in common with spanish inquisition.	[00:19]
dub	link?	[00:21]
EskimoBob	pigeons: :) I have to do this really carefully. No hurry or this will get ugly :)	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	dub you missed that ?!	[00:22]
EskimoBob	who is r.ver?	[00:22]
gigavps	roger ver	[00:23]
gigavps	or as he calls himself, "bitcoin jesus"	[00:23]
EskimoBob	ok	[00:23]
jcpham	bitcoin jesus like historical jesus	[00:23]
jcpham	or bitcoin jesus water into wine	[00:23]
pigeons	"I'm Roger Ver, the most prolific Bitcoin investor the world has ever seen"	[00:24]
jcpham	all of us are like historical jesus	[00:24]
jcpham	a regular guy	[00:24]
gigavps	well, after his spasm today, he's more like bitcoin idiot	[00:24]
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EskimoBob	link please	[00:24]
jcpham	i didn't get to see the spasm	[00:24]
jcpham	just heard about it	[00:24]
Lyspooner	link svp	[00:24]
jcpham	so link it	[00:24]
pigeons	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131574.20	[00:25]
jcpham	so he actually used those words	[00:26]
pigeons	no he actually spelled most as "post"	[00:26]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: is it that in common: no one expects it?	[00:26]
EskimoBob	oh that's the vid card drama	[00:26]
gigavps	he's a little full of himself after that comment	[00:27]
jcpham	i mine at coinlab	[00:27]
jcpham	roger is payingme	[00:27]
gigavps	whether it's true or not	[00:27]
jcpham	and gigavps	[00:27]
gigavps	roger is paying me too	[00:27]
gigavps	:)	[00:27]
gigavps	25% moar	[00:27]
jcpham	gigavps are you taking roger's money?	[00:27]
jcpham	i am	[00:27]
thestringpuller	roger ver is the coinlab guy?	[00:28]
gigavps	coinlab is paying me 25% moar for the next three weeks	[00:28]
jcpham	i think i have like 6 left	[00:28]
jurov	oh i expected he loses it on this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131648.msg1409675	[00:28]
gigavps	he was part of the $500k round	[00:28]
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jcpham	that's crazy over 4btc	[00:29]
jcpham	lawyers and such	[00:29]
pigeons	so the big thing now is that blockchain.info had previously claimed that links from "anonymous" addresses were not logged	[00:30]
pigeons	yet there was an admin interface to look this up	[00:30]
gigavps	whoops	[00:32]
jcpham	oopsie, forgot to tell ya'll about that. we have to spport people	[00:32]
pigeons	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128841.msg1409754#msg1409754	[00:33]
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Bugpowder	damn. buyer didnt cut into the S.DICE Tier 3.	[00:40]
Bugpowder	Stop selling below .0037 people	[00:40]
pigeons	that always works	[00:41]
Bugpowder	just the the market buy through and we are gonna be at .005	[00:41]
thestringpuller	nooe	[00:41]
thestringpuller	sdice is gonna plummet	[00:41]
Bugpowder	when?	[00:41]
thestringpuller	and we'll short the shit out of it	[00:41]
thestringpuller	after divs	[00:41]
Bugpowder	after divs it will drop 4%	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	well, after his spasm today, he's more like bitcoin idiot << i think btcppl don't get enoug hsleep.	[00:42]
Bugpowder	or whatever the div payout it	[00:42]
Bugpowder	is	[00:42]
thestringpuller	not if someone dumps inventory	[00:42]
thestringpuller	like a bunch of tier 1	[00:42]
thestringpuller	then it will plummet...	[00:43]
Bugpowder	In a liquid market, price will drop the value of the dividend payment.	[00:43]
Bugpowder	because the dividend is priced in	[00:44]
jurov	eveyone, remember these people. they are agents for smickles' shorting service	[00:44]
Bugpowder	some people will sell right before the divvy to maximize thier sale price	[00:44]
Bugpowder	some will be buying right after on the dip	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	dividends are like 2 weeks away still	[00:44]
thestringpuller	yes	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	it can end up + or - 10k	[00:44]
thestringpuller	and its a bubble	[00:44]
Bugpowder	someone will make more money than the other person	[00:44]
thestringpuller	it smells like bubble	[00:44]
pigeons	we'll see	[00:44]
Bugpowder	but in an efficient market, it will drop divvy value	[00:44]
pigeons	less bubblicious than mpoe	[00:45]
Bugpowder	everything hinges on if S.DICE can keep up the betting volume	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder it doesn't make so much sense to drop div value seeing how this is a btc sort of company. no assets.	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, i never saw a bubble consisting of price movement from 32 to 37.	[00:45]
thestringpuller	not yet	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	and yeah, mpoe went from ~2.9 to like 63	[00:46]
mircea_popescu	over 9 months	[00:46]
Bugpowder	mircea_popescu I disagree, market prices in the value.	[00:46]
Bugpowder	S.DICE was slowing down until the whales showed up	[00:46]
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Bugpowder	but they are sporadic...	[00:46]
thestringpuller	ugh	[00:46]
mircea_popescu	ya i think it was trading more on momentum/inferred momentum than anything	[00:46]
mircea_popescu	ahaha digging through old posts, 2 Aprilie 2012 One website offering Bitcoin options trading was ‘listed’ this month for an implied valuation of half a million dollars. Sursa : Reuters.	[00:47]
Bugpowder	This whale still has 12,000 BTC in his betting address... http://blockchain.info/address/1EP4rM8hLZCRSWPNZDWJp9zdvmoWYkkgbQ	[00:48]
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jurov	hmm...in fact i remember coinbr getting some funding from similat whale-ish addy	[00:49]
Bugpowder	http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Di6ux3CQBNXCZLD76BsnYWDo6XnFGzQah	[00:49]
smickles	< jurov> eveyone, remember these people. they are agents for smickles' shorting service << mwahahah	[00:49]
mircea_popescu	i find it boggling someone'd be betting 10-20-50k btc	[00:50]
Bugpowder	There is still a lot of time left before div payment and trading volume tends to increase prior to payment.	[00:50]
jcpham	yeah i had to close that blockahin link	[00:50]
jcpham	i got angry	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	lol	[00:51]
jcpham	i hope that's a lucky bot	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	why, you bet it too.	[00:51]
jcpham	not a lucky human	[00:51]
jcpham	not like that	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	o i c	[00:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061898 = 2.6746 BTC [+]	[00:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.000619 = 2.3392 BTC [+]	[00:51]
jcpham	i need more risk!	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	i kinda rue the day one of these whales discovers what reverse martingale is and tears sdice a new one.	[00:52]
jurov	in other news, it looks like s.mpoe trades thinned to a trickle	[00:52]
Bugpowder	jcpham short unhedged puts at 14.	[00:52]
dub	I think this roger ver business is grounds for a round of panic selling anyway	[00:52]
dub	have at it	[00:53]
thestringpuller	panic sell	[00:53]
thestringpuller	sell sell sell	[00:53]
thestringpuller	;;tickee	[00:53]
gribble	Error: "tickee" is not a valid command.	[00:53]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[00:53]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 13.43403, Best ask: 13.49499, Bid-ask spread: 0.06096, Last trade: 13.49499, 24 hour volume: 34245.99274865, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.37071	[00:53]
pigeons	i like how he thinks his whining will harm bitcoin	[00:53]
Bugpowder	;;tickle	[00:53]
gribble	Error: "tickle" is not a valid command.	[00:53]
pigeons	if it isn't deleted	[00:53]
thestringpuller	nope	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	i like how he thinks his whining will harm bitcoin << werd.	[00:53]
dub	most prolific bitcoin masturbator throws toys, SELL WHILE YOU CAN	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	sometimes i wonder if im the only btc investor that gets laid.	[00:54]
Diablo-D3	meh	[00:54]
Diablo-D3	people are yammering in here	[00:55]
Diablo-D3	I go take a nap	[00:55]
Diablo-D3	come back	[00:55]
Diablo-D3	people are yammering in here	[00:55]
Diablo-D3	some things never change	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	go take a nap.	[00:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061866 = 2.6732 BTC [-]	[00:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13887 @ 0.000619 = 8.5961 BTC [+]	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127488.msg1410202#msg1410202 inquiring minds wish to know	[00:56]
jcpham	is whether or not giga is a scammer based solely on the GIGAMINING asset or some other event?	[00:56]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: you already know whats going on there	[00:56]
Diablo-D3	giga is suing nefario	[00:56]
Diablo-D3	nefario thinks he can win in court by not giving giga the info or the btc	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 the voting notion amuses me.	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	let us have an election trial!	[00:57]
Diablo-D3	yeah, how the fuck does that work	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	whoever shows tits is not guilty ?	[00:57]
Diablo-D3	hah	[00:57]
Diablo-D3	wait	[00:57]
dub	bitcoin, its democratastic	[00:57]
*	Diablo-D3 shows tits	[00:57]
Diablo-D3	FEAR MY MANLY MAN BOOBS	[00:58]
Diablo-D3	AND MY COARSE CHEST HAIR	[00:58]
pigeons	go back to nap	[00:58]
Diablo-D3	seriously, 3M has been after me for my chest hair, its the most abrasive shit ever	[00:58]
Diablo-D3	well, second to my beard	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	nap, srsly.	[00:58]
Bugpowder	Are they suing in the rota?	[00:59]
pigeons	not yet	[01:00]
dub	what would be the point?	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	i think that's not phantastique enough yet	[01:00]
dub	the only reason to sue in rota is if the other pary has a reputation to lose	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	this is true	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	which is by now all of like... 5 people	[01:01]
dub	nefario will need a new identity to get anyone other than amir to trust him	[01:01]
jurov	well,in fact i tried to inflict upon Ukto the agreement that if violated, shall be judger by rota	[01:01]
jurov	but he said he forgot pgp passphrase :/	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	omg and he refused ?	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	SCAM	[01:01]
jurov	so, no rota...	[01:01]
pigeons	;;ident Ukto	[01:01]
gribble	Nick 'Ukto', with hostmask 'Ukto!~Kami-Sama@99-30-79-193.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.	[01:01]
jurov	no that is not fully correct. in fact he first said that his software has no clearsign function	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	eh?!	[01:02]
pigeons	--clearsign	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	is he on like a mac or something ?	[01:04]
jcpham	oh wait i can be sued	[01:04]
jurov	he uses kleopatra on windows or something	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	kleo can clearsign	[01:04]
*	jcpham sprinkles anti-lawsuit fairy dust all around	[01:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3166 @ 0.000619 = 1.9598 BTC [+]	[01:04]
pigeons	;rate Ukto -1 he uses kleopatra on windows or something	[01:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4784 @ 0.00061999 = 2.966 BTC [+]	[01:05]
*	mircea_popescu sues jcpham	[01:05]
jcpham	sue me in romanian court and pay for my plane ticket	[01:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0036 = 18 BTC [-]	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	i'll pay for your chicken bus ticket	[01:06]
jcpham	oooh a chicken bus!	[01:06]
jcpham	like romancing the stone	[01:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00061999 = 11.1598 BTC [+]	[01:08]
jurov	mircea_popescu, why messing with tickets. just put a reward on jcpham. dead or alive	[01:08]
jurov	(for court, he's better alive i guess)	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	"bring one jcpham impaled on an 68 inch sperm whale cock, preferably alive. reward 11 btc"	[01:10]
Diablo-D3	I just realized something	[01:12]
Diablo-D3	the BFLS and BFLS.RIG tickers are inaba's	[01:12]
thestringpuller	on bitfunder?	[01:12]
Diablo-D3	no, GLBSE	[01:12]
dub	derp	[01:13]
pigeons	really?	[01:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128556 @ 0.00061999 = 79.7034 BTC [+]	[01:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1484344 @ 0.00062 = 920.2933 BTC [+]	[01:14]
Diablo-D3	yeah	[01:14]
Diablo-D3	I just finally realized that	[01:14]
pigeons	hmm you are correct	[01:14]
Diablo-D3	and he started them BEFORE he was hired by BFL	[01:14]
mircea_popescu	he was trying to merge them	[01:14]
pigeons	what a shill	[01:14]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: well, honestly, he should	[01:14]
mircea_popescu	people couldn't agree on ratios	[01:15]
Diablo-D3	yeah, he should just shove a fair ratio down their throats	[01:15]
Diablo-D3	do it on mh	[01:15]
pigeons	someone asked me if there was bfl or if it was all a scheme by inaba	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	what did you say ?	[01:15]
pigeons	i know some folks who have visited the shop and met everyone	[01:16]
Diablo-D3	bfls and bfls.rigs represented the same ratio of ownership of their hardware	[01:16]
Diablo-D3	I forget what it was, but it was like 1/200th of a single or a rig respectively	[01:16]
mircea_popescu	pigeons o that actully happened ? i thought it was just planed	[01:16]
mircea_popescu	yochdog et al ?	[01:17]
thestringpuller	whoa	[01:17]
Diablo-D3	and singles into rigs is a integer number	[01:17]
thestringpuller	thats a lot of btc	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	!ticker s.mpoe	[01:17]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006151 / 0.00062222 / 0.00063666 (2141211 shares, 1,332.30 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053683 / 0.00063995 (104071550 shares, 55,869.67 BTC)	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	!ticker s.dice	[01:17]
Diablo-D3	so you CAN figure out how much ownership a share of BFLS is on rigs	[01:17]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368484 / 0.0036995 (671563 shares, 2,474.60 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343671 / 0.0037 (7280181 shares, 25,019.89 BTC)	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	this is like,... the first time ever something trades moar in a day than s.mpoe i think	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	well other than ipo day maybe	[01:17]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: heh	[01:17]
pigeons	no not yochdog, but folks have been there more than once and gotten the tour, talked to everyone etc	[01:18]
Diablo-D3	whats with all the dice love?	[01:18]
Diablo-D3	pigeons: people who I dont trust, however	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	pays in a month the sort of divs fiat corps pay in 5 years	[01:18]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[01:18]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 13.49452, Best ask: 13.51990, Bid-ask spread: 0.02538, Last trade: 13.52000, 24 hour volume: 34243.77923978, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.37348	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	pigeons notably who ?	[01:18]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: whats the equiv APY on that	[01:18]
pigeons	i am sure the people i am talking about aren't lying. that doesn't mean these people aren't being scammed by bfl	[01:18]
Diablo-D3	pigeons: yeah exactly	[01:19]
Diablo-D3	like, friedcat is going to send me a board for evaluation and DM dev	[01:19]
Diablo-D3	we'll know in 5 seconds flat if its the real deal or not	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 if you put in 3200 to buy 1% of S.DICE at ipo you now have ~3684.84 btc worth of shares + 139.42 btc worth of dividends, for a total gain of 624.26	[01:20]
mircea_popescu	that's 19.5% since late august	[01:21]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: how many days ago was IPO?	[01:21]
Diablo-D3	wait	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	so something like 70% api overal.	[01:21]
Diablo-D3	august as in 4 months ago august?	[01:21]
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mircea_popescu	yes.	[01:21]
Diablo-D3	holy fuck.	[01:21]
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mircea_popescu	and ppl were liek... ooo it's too expensive	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	and mpoe-pr was stfu you don't have a pot to piss in	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	and well... she was bad pr and they were bad investors. win-win.	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	but all the action recently is prolly due to the ~15k they're making this month	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	which adds another 150 btc to that equation, taking total net to 770ish	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	and api more like 90%	[01:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [X.AWHG] 134 @ 0.06165072 = 8.2612 BTC [-]	[01:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [X.ENGG] 45 @ 0.25573768 = 11.5082 BTC [-]	[01:27]
jurov	btw, how X.IDIFF.DEC settled?	[01:29]
jurov	;;difficulty	[01:29]
gribble	Error: "difficulty" is not a valid command.	[01:29]
pigeons	Ukto: offer to settle X.IDIFF via hashpower.com	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	3370182	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	we talked about it, hecant. dumbass shares system	[01:32]
jurov	ic	[01:32]
Bugpowder	;;ticker	[01:36]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 13.60000, Best ask: 13.60061, Bid-ask spread: 0.00061, Last trade: 13.60000, 24 hour volume: 38724.18251965, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39880	[01:36]
smickles	;;bc,diff	[01:36]
gribble	3370181.7992778	[01:36]
smickles	!ticker x.idiff.dec	[01:37]
assbot	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.DEC] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 (1 shares, 0.03 BTC)	[01:37]
smickles	someone made a good buy	[01:37]
thestringpuller	calls at 14	[01:37]
Bugpowder	!ticker x.diff.mar	[01:37]
assbot	Invalid ticker.	[01:37]
smickles	i have calls at 14	[01:37]
Bugpowder	!ticker x.idiff.mar	[01:37]
assbot	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.07995 / 0.07995 / 0.07995 (20 shares, 1.60 BTC)	[01:37]
smickles	and at a better price than mpoebot	[01:38]
*	mircea_popescu looks	[01:39]
mircea_popescu	0.08057949 3 ?	[01:40]
Bugpowder	3	[01:40]
Bugpowder	sorry dont have the capital	[01:40]
Bugpowder	to buy	[01:40]
Bugpowder	don't want to get locked out of my account	[01:40]
smickles	mircea_popescu: yeah	[01:41]
smickles	I only have 3 right now :P	[01:41]
smickles	and I don't have a bot running yet either	[01:41]
mircea_popescu	I know there was some trading going on, but the volume was almost non-existent, as most people held on to the shares. Regardless of what may have happened on the exchange, the shares were never meant to be a trading stock and for all intents and purposes, I used GLBSE as a glorified excel spreadsheet to handle the distribution of the mined funds in a fast, easy manner. From the volume, I think most people agreed with	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	that.	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	heh	[01:42]
smickles	who said that?	[01:43]
smickles	tell me it was giga	[01:43]
mircea_popescu	inaba	[01:44]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89902.msg1388715#msg1388715	[01:44]
thestringpuller	smickles pm	[01:44]
smickles	thestringpuller:	[01:44]
smickles	misfire -_-	[01:44]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131678.0	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	ppl are sorry.	[01:48]
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mircea_popescu	"Please don't leave Nethead. Scammer or not, Bitcoin needs people like you just as much as Bitcoin needs businesses like ours. "	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	who is writing this copy ?	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	i gotta ask. i gotta know. who ?	[01:50]
pigeons	"Please don't leave Nethead. Scammer or not, Bitcoin needs people like you just as much as Bitcoin needs businesses like ours."	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	...	[01:50]
pigeons	oh	[01:50]
pigeons	hehe	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	is it like... a curse ? someone set them up da voodoo ?	[01:51]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062 = 7.254 BTC [+]	[01:55]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00062 = 1.829 BTC [+]	[02:07]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[10:00]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex \|\| https://coinbr.com \|\| https://cryptostocks.com \|\| https://icbit.se \|\| https://therocktrading.com \|\| https://assets-otc.com \|\| https://www.havelockinvestments.com \|\| https://bitfunder.com \|\| list bot commands: !help \|\| Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades \|\| Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi	[10:00]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Fri Dec 7 19:23:30 2012	[10:00]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135519341514.jpg fake or real ?	[10:01]
Anduck	wtf mircea_popescu?	[10:07]
mircea_popescu	hm ?	[10:07]
Anduck	the pic	[10:08]
mircea_popescu	yea...	[10:08]
Anduck	what does it matter is it real or fake??	[10:08]
mircea_popescu	now that is a good question hehe	[10:09]
mircea_popescu	people have lately gotten in this habit of claiming any large round tit is the result of surgery.	[10:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00062 = 1.116 BTC [+]	[10:12]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062 = 4.929 BTC [+]	[10:35]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00062 = 4.619 BTC [+]	[10:40]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00062 = 1.891 BTC [+]	[10:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00062 = 3.162 BTC [+]	[10:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7738 @ 0.00062 = 4.7976 BTC [+]	[10:59]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00062 = 8.184 BTC [+]	[11:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13153 @ 0.00062 = 8.1549 BTC [+]	[11:12]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10582 @ 0.00062 = 6.5608 BTC [+]	[11:40]
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dub	;;rate jcpham 1 drives a Toyota	[11:46]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jcpham has been recorded.	[11:46]
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mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/63P8r.jpg	[11:47]
mircea_popescu	aghahaha	[11:47]
dub	thats good	[11:52]
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EskimoBob	yawn... nice weather we have today! -15 and windchill -24	[12:03]
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EskimoBob	it's going to be cold soon	[12:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00062 = 8.029 BTC [+]	[12:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8220 @ 0.00062 = 5.0964 BTC [+]	[12:10]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00062 = 1.519 BTC [+]	[12:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062 = 4.929 BTC [+]	[12:39]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4738 @ 0.00062 = 2.9376 BTC [+]	[12:49]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062 = 3.906 BTC [+]	[13:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6732 @ 0.0006195 = 4.1705 BTC [-]	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7874 @ 0.00061946 = 4.8776 BTC [-]	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12512 @ 0.00061935 = 7.7493 BTC [-]	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00061925 = 1.2075 BTC [-]	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00061903 = 7.0879 BTC [-]	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0006189 = 1.671 BTC [-]	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00061887 = 4.4559 BTC [-]	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00061849 = 2.1338 BTC [-]	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00061837 = 4.2049 BTC [-]	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00061793 = 2.9043 BTC [-]	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12132 @ 0.00061767 = 7.4936 BTC [-]	[13:11]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6422 @ 0.00062 = 3.9816 BTC [+]	[13:19]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00350838 = 3.5084 BTC [-]	[13:24]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9948 @ 0.00062 = 6.1678 BTC [+]	[13:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00351012 = 1.053 BTC [+]	[13:28]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5802 @ 0.00062 = 3.5972 BTC [+]	[13:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7770 @ 0.00062 = 4.8174 BTC [+]	[13:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2118 @ 0.00062 = 1.3132 BTC [+]	[13:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00062 = 6.665 BTC [+]	[13:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6731 @ 0.00062 = 4.1732 BTC [+]	[13:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00062 = 6.107 BTC [+]	[13:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]	[13:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062 = 3.72 BTC [+]	[14:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15946 @ 0.00062 = 9.8865 BTC [+]	[14:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062 = 3.1 BTC [+]	[14:19]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]	[14:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10913 @ 0.00062 = 6.7661 BTC [+]	[14:29]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062 = 3.038 BTC [+]	[14:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062 = 3.782 BTC [+]	[14:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5531 @ 0.00062 = 3.4292 BTC [+]	[14:56]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00062 = 7.688 BTC [+]	[15:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37086 @ 0.00062 = 22.9933 BTC [+]	[15:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00350838 = 2.105 BTC [-]	[15:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00062 = 9.207 BTC [+]	[15:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]	[15:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]	[15:50]
thestringpuller	!ticker S.DICE	[15:56]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368607 / 0.0036995 (658562 shares, 2,427.51 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343695 / 0.0037 (7293593 shares, 25,067.73 BTC)	[15:56]
thestringpuller	;;calc (.0036 - .0035) / .0036	[15:56]
gribble	0.0277777777778	[15:56]
thestringpuller	;;calc (.0036 - .0035) / .002	[15:57]
gribble	0.05	[15:57]
thestringpuller	smickles: ^^^ seems possible to short even before the div's have paid	[15:57]
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EskimoBob	thestringpuller: are you waiting for sdice to pass some serious gas and keel over?	[16:16]
pigeons	seems risky, good luck	[16:17]
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Ukto	well	[16:17]
Ukto	it will be smelly	[16:17]
Ukto	pigeons: Can I get your opinion	[16:18]
Ukto	on the changes I made?	[16:18]
pigeons	to BF?	[16:19]
Ukto	yeah	[16:19]
Ukto	i changed the ordering buy/sell boxes	[16:19]
Ukto	and added some quick fill buttons	[16:19]
Ukto	and some highlighting	[16:19]
Ukto	to remind you before hitting the button	[16:20]
pigeons	yes i didn't like the reverse order	[16:20]
Ukto	.. reverse order ?	[16:20]
*	Ukto hasnt reversed anything	[16:20]
pigeons	oh	[16:20]
pigeons	hey it looks fine to me. but i just press buttons	[16:20]
Ukto	I was able to save some screen space by shrinking them down	[16:21]
Ukto	think its less confusing saying Max Cost, and Min Earned ?	[16:21]
thestringpuller	EskimoBob: It's not going to kill over but it's a mini bubble atm	[16:21]
Ukto	OWAH	[16:21]
Ukto	...	[16:21]
Ukto	Did you know that firefox.. has a 3d view for webpages?	[16:21]
Ukto	0,o	[16:21]
thestringpuller	yes	[16:22]
thestringpuller	You've never seen it Ukto?	[16:22]
EskimoBob	thestringpuller: did you sell some or are you just planning?	[16:22]
Ukto	i have alwayas used firebug 0,o	[16:22]
Ukto	thats pretty cool	[16:22]
thestringpuller	EskimoBob: if people start eating into the .0037 ipo then I will	[16:22]
thestringpuller	that is before divs	[16:22]
thestringpuller	Ukto: but now I hate you because you are using too much CSS and javascript	[16:23]
thestringpuller	and am closing my bitfunder account	[16:23]
EskimoBob	lol	[16:23]
Ukto	ROFLOL	[16:23]
Ukto	did you even have one to start with ?	[16:24]
Ukto	actually	[16:24]
Ukto	I have been using a crap ton of in-line css	[16:24]
Ukto	its pissing me off	[16:24]
Ukto	compatability shit	[16:24]
Ukto	so I gave up on the css sheets	[16:24]
thestringpuller	why do people want to make their stock exchanges so pretty?	[16:24]
thestringpuller	the NYSE doesn't have some crazy UI on the floor	[16:24]
thestringpuller	it's just computers with an API	[16:24]
EskimoBob	Ukto: why those buttons on trade history page? (SELL)	[16:25]
Ukto	EskimoBob: click em	[16:25]
Ukto	the are jus pretty markers	[16:25]
Ukto	but apparently	[16:25]
Ukto	no one gets that	[16:25]
Ukto	and its obviously confusing	[16:25]
Ukto	so I will be changing it out	[16:25]
EskimoBob	nothing happens	[16:25]
thestringpuller	how much money is bitfunder making atm	[16:25]
thestringpuller	unless that isn't public yet :P	[16:25]
Ukto	not very much	[16:25]
Ukto	less than 1 btc since it lanched	[16:26]
Ukto	laynched*	[16:26]
thestringpuller	don't you own something else	[16:26]
Ukto	linched.	[16:26]
Ukto	:P	[16:26]
Ukto	2 things	[16:26]
thestringpuller	that you used to fund bitfunder	[16:26]
Ukto	weexchange	[16:26]
Ukto	and hashpower	[16:26]
Ukto	fund bitfunder?	[16:26]
Ukto	whats to fund?	[16:26]
Ukto	just my time	[16:26]
thestringpuller	exactly	[16:26]
thestringpuller	and as bitinstant says	[16:26]
thestringpuller	time is money mah nigga	[16:26]
Ukto	oh how I knows	[16:26]
thestringpuller	you could be usin' that time to collect yo money elsewhere	[16:26]
thestringpuller	how much do I have to pay you to get that FF7	[16:27]
Ukto	actually	[16:27]
Ukto	LOL	[16:27]
Ukto	SO	[16:27]
Ukto	thats what this is all about	[16:27]
Ukto	I'll go look in just a few, how about that	[16:27]
Ukto	:)	[16:27]
thestringpuller	YAY	[16:27]
Ukto	but	[16:27]
Ukto	no more giving me shiz :P	[16:27]
Ukto	and you wear a BF badge :P	[16:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00062 = 5.611 BTC [+]	[16:27]
*	Ukto puts a politcal type pin on thestringpuller that says BitFunder	[16:28]
Ukto	:P	[16:28]
thestringpuller	I actually know who you are Ukto	[16:28]
thestringpuller	you're sorta pseudofamous from hashpower	[16:28]
EskimoBob	Ukto:What if switch assetlist and market in the menu	[16:28]
*	Ukto has to remember to like romney, and cancel all debit cards the moment onf conceit so ppl have to pay their way hoome :P	[16:28]
thestringpuller	now that i see your forum avatar	[16:28]
EskimoBob	I rather see the market data first	[16:28]
Ukto	EskimoBob: the sub-nav is diff for logged in/not	[16:29]
Ukto	besides	[16:29]
Ukto	the blue is pretty hard on the eyes	[16:29]
Ukto	compared to the easy to read blue letters below	[16:30]
EskimoBob	it is	[16:30]
Ukto	they are within a twitch of a space of click	[16:30]
Ukto	:P	[16:30]
thestringpuller	lol small world this is	[16:30]
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thestringpuller	the btc world that is	[16:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00062 = 10.54 BTC [+]	[16:30]
EskimoBob	this is called "porno blue" for some historical reason. Actually all the 256 palette colors are :)	[16:31]
thestringpuller	i think the btc community uses more bootstrap than anyone else lol	[16:32]
EskimoBob	thestringpuller: no, if you believe anything that lunatic PR baba says, then everyone is a complete retard in btc world, except her of course	[16:32]
thestringpuller	MPOE-PR?	[16:33]
thestringpuller	who is baba?	[16:33]
thestringpuller	da fuck EskimoBob speak-uh da english	[16:33]
EskimoBob	yeah that's the one	[16:33]
thestringpuller	I don't care about anything that goes on in the forums tbh	[16:33]
EskimoBob	or is there any other PR-jokes around?	[16:33]
thestringpuller	that's how I lost money	[16:33]
EskimoBob	makes sense	[16:34]
thestringpuller	i care about results	[16:34]
EskimoBob	OK, time to get ready for the meeting.	[16:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00062 = 5.332 BTC [+]	[16:38]
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thestringpuller	Bugpowder: S.DICE could have been shorted recently	[16:48]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[16:51]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 13.44569, Best ask: 13.52978, Bid-ask spread: 0.08409, Last trade: 13.44569, 24 hour volume: 48118.47436117, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.45404	[16:51]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00062 = 3.751 BTC [+]	[16:53]
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thestringpuller	;;calc 39.97 / 13.40	[16:54]
gribble	2.9828358209	[16:54]
Ukto	thestringpuller: you recognize the char in the avatar?	[16:57]
thestringpuller	nah just I"ve seen it before	[16:58]
thestringpuller	when researching ozcoin	[16:58]
thestringpuller	some time ago	[16:58]
thestringpuller	unless that's not you	[16:58]
thestringpuller	lol	[16:58]
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Ukto	0,o	[17:00]
Ukto	thats a character from an old anime	[17:00]
Ukto	first time I ever used it	[17:00]
thestringpuller	ah	[17:00]
Ukto	was digging through some files from a real old computer, came accross a scan of an animation cel I have, and used that	[17:00]
thestringpuller	yea wrong forum tag then!	[17:00]
thestringpuller	haha	[17:00]
Ukto	cleaned it up a bit, remove dhte background	[17:00]
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thestringpuller	weexchange is based in australia?	[17:01]
jcpham	iirc	[17:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00062 = 7.13 BTC [+]	[17:03]
Bugpowder	6 hours later I finally solve my LaTeX formatting issue	[17:04]
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mircea_popescu	knuth'd be proud of you	[17:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062 = 4.34 BTC [+]	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/what-does-a-start-up-run-on/ :D	[17:13]
pigeons	sun drop and cheerwine	[17:14]
pigeons	i know they dont have those in romania, hence no startups	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	racist pigeons	[17:14]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu you should just take down the mpex front end site	[17:15]
thestringpuller	the public side	[17:15]
thestringpuller	and say, "you bitches complained too much about Web 2.0, now you shits get nothing. Good luck"	[17:16]
gigavps	lol	[17:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062 = 6.076 BTC [+]	[17:21]
thestringpuller	are these girls even legal mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/f/src/133138961872.jpg ?	[17:22]
pigeons	what are you ciuicuciuc?	[17:22]
pigeons	oh, no they ain't	[17:23]
thestringpuller	this is how the FBI shows up at my door...	[17:23]
thestringpuller	ugh mircea_popescu this is why we can't have nice things	[17:24]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00062 = 6.293 BTC [+]	[17:32]
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jcpham	http://www.lfpress.com/2012/12/20/bernie-madoffs-brother-faces-sentencing-in-ponzi-case	[17:38]
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mircea_popescu	thestringpuller i have no idea	[17:42]
mircea_popescu	are girls under 18 illegal to exist or illegal to be naked in your jurisdiction ?	[17:44]
mircea_popescu	cause it gets confusing at times	[17:44]
jcpham	it's actually 19 in my state	[17:45]
jcpham	minor until 19	[17:45]
thestringpuller	18 usually	[17:45]
jcpham	tobacco, voting, etc	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	heh	[17:45]
thestringpuller	in high school this girl put pictures of herself on the internet to piss off her ex	[17:45]
thestringpuller	the ex called the feds	[17:46]
jcpham	we protect them for an extra year	[17:46]
thestringpuller	girl was arrested	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	lol i hope she's serving time	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	ok this is huge https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131778.0	[17:46]
thestringpuller	no it's not	[17:48]
thestringpuller	...	[17:48]
thestringpuller	D-Wave has been around for a while	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	so have asics.	[17:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00062 = 1.178 BTC [+]	[17:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00062 = 0.868 BTC [+]	[17:50]
thestringpuller	ASICS the type of "thing"	[17:51]
thestringpuller	or ASICS the bitcoin fiasco	[17:51]
thestringpuller	ASICS as in Integrated Circuits as an industry?	[17:52]
thestringpuller	also mircea_popescu the .00062 IPO was pretty brilliant	[17:52]
thestringpuller	!ticker S.MPOE	[17:52]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006151 / 0.00061987 / 0.00062 (2624777 shares, 1,627.03 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053765 / 0.00063995 (104594132 shares, 56,235.22 BTC)	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	certainly took a good bite out of speculation	[17:53]
thestringpuller	I'm trying to see your correlation between DWAVE and the ASICS market	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	dwave is a scam, pretty much.	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	the asic market ? what asic market ?	[17:55]
thestringpuller	Sarcasm on the internet is like being sarcastic to an autistic child for me	[17:56]
thestringpuller	doesn't translate	[17:56]
thestringpuller	I apologize for being dumb	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	:p	[17:56]
thestringpuller	btw http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/hardware/loser-dwave-does-not-quantum-compute	[17:57]
thestringpuller	I remember reading about this a few years back when I was getting into HPC	[17:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2640 @ 0.00062 = 1.6368 BTC [+]	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	"It is actually much worse than the imbeciles attempting to convince the world they have a working quantum computer, as at least some of the quantum computing community laughs at them in public."	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	locklin dixit.	[18:00]
jcpham	Our current superconducting 128-qubit processor chip is housed inside a cryogenics system within a 10 square meter shielded room. If you are interested in finding out if this quantum computing system meet your needs please contact us for more information: sales@dwavesys.com	[18:01]
jcpham	^ fine print	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	PREORDERS AVAILABLE	[18:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	note the same bad grammar as is par for "asic" "companies".	[18:01]
jcpham	just need a 10 suare meter shielded room	[18:01]
jcpham	and cryogenics	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131778.0	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	ahaha read the replies	[18:02]
jcpham	and you can hack the planet, i mean blockchain	[18:02]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: is Ver so high on your shitlist now that Bitinstant and Friends are blacklisted too?	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	no ?	[18:02]
thestringpuller	BREAKING NEWS: I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	he's not particularly high on my list, he did something stupid and got thrashed for it, apologized, hopefuly got the lesson	[18:02]
thestringpuller	haha	[18:03]
thestringpuller	unlike other people who refuse to admit when they fuck up	[18:03]
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thestringpuller	I guess that is a good thing	[18:03]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: remember our discussion about the composite Cocoa trading	[18:05]
iz	jcpham: also, it's not 128 qubits entangled with each other, it's like.. clusters of 4 (or 8 or some smaller grouping)	[18:05]
iz	that work in parallel	[18:05]
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jcpham	it seems like i read the announcement on that company a month or so back	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	jcpham they took funding a while ago.	[18:06]
jcpham	and the technical discussion was basically like " it isn't a quantum computer"	[18:06]
iz	yeah, a while ago they made news when lockheed bought one of their things	[18:06]
jcpham	maybe slashdot or HN	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	omfg jcpham has a forum name ?	[18:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4210 @ 0.00062 = 2.6102 BTC [+]	[18:08]
jcpham	yep	[18:08]
jcpham	fuck that place	[18:08]
jcpham	no offense intended	[18:08]
jcpham	i have issues with my words being picked apart by clowns	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	hire pr.	[18:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4807 @ 0.00062 = 2.9803 BTC [+]	[18:09]
jcpham	or i can just read and practice restraint	[18:09]
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thestringpuller	holy shit	[18:09]
jcpham	i don't actually have to contribute to absorb it all	[18:09]
thestringpuller	dude they made a chip	[18:09]
thestringpuller	that can take DNA gene slices	[18:09]
thestringpuller	and synthesize proteins	[18:10]
thestringpuller	HOLY FUCK	[18:10]
jcpham	i think sequencing is now like 98% accurate	[18:10]
jcpham	from nothing to human	[18:10]
Bugpowder	not really	[18:10]
jcpham	i thought i read the other day how they took sperm plus egg from different hosts	[18:11]
jcpham	and sequenced 98% of baby	[18:11]
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Bugpowder	what have they synthesized that has folded properly	[18:11]
jcpham	ic	[18:11]
Bugpowder	peptides sure	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder has it.	[18:11]
jcpham	i mis-read things	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	the folding is the big problem	[18:11]
Bugpowder	also how long?	[18:12]
Bugpowder	peptide synthesizers are great	[18:12]
thestringpuller	hold on tryig to find the article	[18:12]
Bugpowder	but you get a yield of 98% per step	[18:12]
thestringpuller	but it seems this device folds properly	[18:12]
Bugpowder	the right sequence can auto-fold in the right environment	[18:12]
thestringpuller	exactly	[18:12]
thestringpuller	Bugpowder: ^^^	[18:13]
Bugpowder	but synthesizing a 300AA string with any yield is not so easy	[18:13]
Bugpowder	;;calc .98^300	[18:13]
gribble	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.	[18:13]
Bugpowder	;;calc 0.98^300	[18:13]
gribble	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.	[18:13]
Bugpowder	;;calc 0.98 ^ 300	[18:13]
gribble	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.	[18:13]
thestringpuller	its ** I think	[18:13]
thestringpuller	;;calc 0.90 ** 300	[18:13]
gribble	0	[18:13]
thestringpuller	oops	[18:13]
thestringpuller	lol	[18:13]
Bugpowder	;;calc 0.98 ** 300	[18:13]
gribble	0.00233250566795	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	the 0 was funny	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00062 = 3.937 BTC [+]	[18:14]
thestringpuller	Bugpowder: http://www.media.mit.edu/molecular/HamadNature.pdf	[18:15]
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thestringpuller	the research spawned from that paper of what I'm talking about	[18:16]
Bugpowder	First red flag "The Media Laboratory	[18:19]
Bugpowder	Second red flag "Shuguang Zhang"	[18:19]
Bugpowder	He is a bit of a bullshitter	[18:20]
thestringpuller	hmmm	[18:20]
thestringpuller	I'm glad there is skepticism	[18:20]
thestringpuller	Bugpowder: you like the biology?	[18:20]
thestringpuller	:)	[18:20]
Bugpowder	I am a professional	[18:21]
Bugpowder	in a related field	[18:21]
thestringpuller	Ah which field?	[18:21]
Bugpowder	Worked at the media lab as an undergrad	[18:22]
Bugpowder	http://brainwindows.wordpress.com/about/	[18:22]
Bugpowder	So what have they demostrated now	[18:22]
thestringpuller	Ah you're into neuro science!	[18:24]
thestringpuller	Haha	[18:24]
thestringpuller	one of my friends is working for: http://www.axionbiosystems.com/ this coming semester	[18:24]
Anduck	what is it?	[18:25]
thestringpuller	neruo-electric interfacing?	[18:25]
Anduck	hmmm	[18:25]
Anduck	sorry i cant open links atm	[18:25]
Anduck	what possible uses are there for that?	[18:26]
Bugpowder	The maestro looks like a nice tool for screening new genetically encoded indicators	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	ahahah so EskimoBob is really an estonian undergrad with some bs archeology programme ?	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	lmao on the interwebs all the dogs don't know they're dogs anymore.	[18:26]
thestringpuller	Bugpowder: my respect for you has skyrocketed	[18:26]
thestringpuller	I have mad respect for those in Biology	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller he's a mouse brain surgeon.	[18:27]
thestringpuller	because mouse brains are in abundance...	[18:27]
Anduck	hmmmm	[18:28]
Bugpowder	There aren't that many cool applications for these arrays in a dish though. the brain isn't flat	[18:29]
Bugpowder	and brain slices are dying and have no connections to other areas	[18:29]
thestringpuller	yea, axion is still a startup	[18:29]
thestringpuller	it's for mainly pure research purposes	[18:29]
Bugpowder	the most interesting stuff you can do with the MEAs is studying retina	[18:30]
Bugpowder	since it lays flat	[18:30]
Bugpowder	for example http://chichilnisky.salk.edu/technology/index.html	[18:30]
Bugpowder	This company makes some useful stuff.	[18:31]
Bugpowder	http://www.neuronexustech.com	[18:31]
Bugpowder	you can record from many sites in the awake behaving brain	[18:31]
Bugpowder	silicon probes	[18:31]
Bugpowder	I have used them and also done some custom design work in house	[18:32]
Bugpowder	hence, not optimistic about ASIC delivery windows	[18:32]
Bugpowder	:-P	[18:32]
thestringpuller	well you know how chips are made	[18:32]
Bugpowder	different set of issues though.	[18:32]
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thestringpuller	how much time goes into them	[18:32]
thestringpuller	for an IC	[18:32]
Bugpowder	just getting the probes off the chip and flat took over a year of refinement	[18:33]
Bugpowder	balancing the stress levels of each layer	[18:33]
thestringpuller	how much were the NRE costs initially?	[18:33]
Bugpowder	not sure if that would be an issue with commerical ASICs though	[18:33]
Bugpowder	$200k	[18:33]
Bugpowder	There is a new project that is going to do much more advanced probes with a $5M budget	[18:34]
thestringpuller	Damn son.	[18:34]
Bugpowder	collab between several funding agencys	[18:34]
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Bugpowder	hope I get my hands on them	[18:34]
thestringpuller	I hope ASICS don't completely flop	[18:34]
thestringpuller	it's gonna tank the BTC	[18:34]
Bugpowder	why?	[18:34]
thestringpuller	it makes us all look bad?	[18:34]
Anduck	asics wont flop	[18:35]
Anduck	or well they can but in the end, nah	[18:35]
Anduck	it's totally possible to make an asic	[18:35]
Anduck	but might take time if there isnt some very good hw makers making one	[18:36]
Bugpowder	i agregg	[18:36]
Bugpowder	agree	[18:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00062 = 5.952 BTC [+]	[18:36]
Bugpowder	if you have the funding, you can get it done, eventually	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	the ideal situation would have been for 2-3-4 companies coming to market within weeks	[18:36]
Anduck	afaik there are some stuff current btc-asic makers are fighting	[18:36]
Anduck	Bugpowder: indeed	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	that is not going to happen with the sort of muppets doing it	[18:36]
Anduck	well	[18:36]
Anduck	there will be none in a month	[18:36]
Anduck	trust me	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	the next best is nobody coming to market.	[18:36]
Anduck	they dont even have the chips	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	Anduck i meant within weeks of each other, not within weeks of now	[18:37]
Anduck	ahh	[18:37]
Anduck	yeah	[18:37]
Anduck	yeah	[18:37]
Anduck	hmmm brb	[18:37]
Anduck	gotta swap train	[18:37]
Anduck	xD	[18:37]
Anduck	almost missed this train cuz of traffic	[18:37]
Anduck	ill be bach in a sec to talk bout asics n stuff	[18:38]
thestringpuller	we need to infiltrate more markets	[18:38]
thestringpuller	we spend too much time robbing each other why not just rob a really rich person	[18:39]
thestringpuller	and dump all that into BTC?	[18:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00062 = 3.255 BTC [+]	[18:39]
jurov	thestringpuller, was it you who bitched about some rich friends that can't be convinced to go btc and instead smoke weed?	[18:40]
thestringpuller	YESSIR	[18:40]
thestringpuller	who do you think I'm going to rob	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller : the 1bn dollar plan.	[18:41]
gigavps	;;bc,diffchange	[18:41]
gribble	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period \| -13.2747973704 % based on data since last change \| -15.1045589685 % based on data for last three days	[18:41]
gigavps	;;bc,stats	[18:41]
gribble	Current Blocks: 212920 \| Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 \| Next Difficulty In: 775 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 29 minutes, and 35 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 2922796.99440957 \| Estimated Percent Change: -13.2747973704	[18:41]
Ukto	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;quote=1411617;topic=82866.80;num_replies=91;sesc=9cd7069be27b1da97ed8dfd6976381c6 :)	[18:42]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: how do we get 1bn into BTC besides robbing someone? this is taking too long	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	just, rich person puts a wall on mtgox, 5mn btc demanded at 200	[18:42]
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mircea_popescu	that's the end of it, btc will never be under 3-400 after that.	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	he gets his 2-3 mn and a 50% ROI to go along with it.	[18:42]
jurov	Ukto, are you trying to post to btctalk as someone else or?	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile at the kitchen table : "i swear to god this soup makes me blush"	[18:43]
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thestringpuller	that should be a business or a foundation	[18:44]
thestringpuller	the 1bn foundation (rich people give us your money so we can make a bidwall, promising 50% ROI)	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	no	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	it has t obe a rich guy sorta like me	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	aka, couldn't care less about anyone else.	[18:45]
Ukto	jurov: do they get enough readers?	[18:45]
jurov	who they?	[18:45]
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Ukto	btctalk or elsewhere	[18:45]
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jurov	Ukto i got several times more visits from reddit than btctalk	[18:46]
Anduck	on what?	[18:46]
*	Ukto bluit's	[18:46]
jurov	well, i still don't know exactly what is ukto asking about	[18:47]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: why don't you care about anyone?	[18:48]
jurov	just thrown in some observation for coinbr	[18:48]
thestringpuller	are you John Galt?	[18:48]
Ukto	[10:45] Ukto, are you trying to post to btctalk as someone else or?	[18:48]
smickles	< thestringpuller> smickles: ^^^ seems possible to short even before the div's have paid<<< indeed	[18:48]
Ukto	I was just responding asking its worth it	[18:48]
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jurov	Ukto I was talking about the link you posted	[18:48]
jurov	it smell like request forgery or whatever it's called	[18:48]
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Ukto	wtf	[18:49]
Ukto	stupid forums linkerary	[18:49]
Ukto	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82866.msg1411617#msg1411617	[18:49]
Ukto	there, last line of his post :)	[18:49]
jurov	ook	[18:50]
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mircea_popescu	thestringpuller i meant in the "o, what will they think what will they say will they agree" sense.	[18:51]
Anduck	sooo back to asics	[18:51]
Anduck	whatcha guess, when will the first one be ready?	[18:51]
Anduck	remember, they need to make asics, put them on a board and program the whole thing for it	[18:51]
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thestringpuller	oh mircea_popescu you "dgaf"	[18:55]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: lets his balls hang out	[18:55]
thestringpuller	keeps it real like a reall nigga	[18:55]
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mircea_popescu	Anduck im pretty sure asics will be delivered by a company	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	as opposed to the current dramawhores.	[18:56]
Anduck	yeah they will	[18:56]
thestringpuller	the company will need initial funding and not preorders	[18:58]
thestringpuller	the design needs to be done before announcement time and the fabrication needs to be happening before a ship date is even conceived	[18:58]
thestringpuller	BFL let their PR get out of hand and they are probably blowing money on expensive cars and shit	[18:59]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6428 @ 0.00062 = 3.9854 BTC [+]	[19:02]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00351012 = 2.8292 BTC [+]	[19:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 244 @ 0.00351012 = 0.8565 BTC [+]	[19:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00353878 = 2.8523 BTC [+]	[19:09]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1394 @ 0.00353878 = 4.9331 BTC [+]	[19:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 376 @ 0.00355273 = 1.3358 BTC [+]	[19:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6 @ 0.00355273 = 0.0213 BTC [+]	[19:14]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]	[19:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062 = 3.1 BTC [+]	[19:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]	[19:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00062 = 7.316 BTC [+]	[19:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062 = 4.898 BTC [+]	[19:30]
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thestringpuller	lol	[19:33]
thestringpuller	nickserv	[19:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00062 = 8.68 BTC [+]	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	graham is insane	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	he rants about how 3/4 of their "10 bn" was made by airbnb and some other shit site	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	what's this airbnb ? this https://www.airbnb.com/	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	there's one user on the site, and that's me.	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	what does it do ? rent rooms from people.	[19:35]
Diablo-D3	I have discovered the most wrong thing on youtube ever	[19:38]
Diablo-D3	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcfKieawVUQ	[19:38]
Anduck	Diablo-D3 !	[19:39]
Anduck	that is so rong	[19:39]
Anduck	BUT	[19:39]
Anduck	i had some BFL-FAIL shares of yours	[19:39]
Anduck	will ya pay !	[19:39]
Diablo-D3	nefario hasnt published the goddamned fucking list yet	[19:39]
Diablo-D3	the fucking 30 some BTC is sitting right here waiting to go	[19:39]
Anduck	well	[19:40]
Anduck	he did tell me how much i had shares	[19:40]
Anduck	they published the list atleast of some shares, right?	[19:40]
Diablo-D3	yes, but he didnt tell me	[19:40]
Diablo-D3	nope	[19:40]
Diablo-D3	he did DMC but not di.bflsc yet	[19:40]
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Anduck	ok	[19:40]
Anduck	but..!! i won	[19:41]
Anduck	xD	[19:41]
Anduck	i just asked nefario if i happened to have some shares	[19:41]
Anduck	i had forgot i had ASICMINER	[19:41]
Diablo-D3	a lot of people won. a LOT of people lost, and they didnt even own success shares	[19:41]
Anduck	i only thought i have a little BFL-fail and BITVPS	[19:41]
Diablo-D3	trollgrin.jpg	[19:41]
Anduck	yup	[19:41]
Anduck	=)	[19:42]
Diablo-D3	re asicminer, friedcat is just going to launch his own exchange	[19:42]
Anduck	really? ok	[19:42]
Anduck	do u have any ASICMINER shars	[19:42]
Anduck	??	[19:42]
Diablo-D3	yes	[19:42]
mod6	(09:33) < thestringpuller> nickserv	[19:42]
mod6	bingo	[19:42]
Anduck	Diablo-D3: aight	[19:43]
Anduck	do u have any BFL, DD3?	[19:43]
thestringpuller	mod6: what up	[19:43]
thestringpuller	I have stuff for you	[19:43]
thestringpuller	well sort of	[19:43]
Anduck	thestringpuller are you the puppet master?	[19:43]
thestringpuller	some design analysis after talking with Vorhees	[19:43]
Diablo-D3	Anduck: NO ONE HAS ANY BFL, DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO	[19:44]
thestringpuller	Anduck: no it's a reference to the godfather	[19:44]
Anduck	Diablo-D3: happy christmas man!	[19:44]
Anduck	thestringpuller: aight	[19:44]
smickles	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcfKieawVUQ&t=3m	[19:44]
smickles	:o	[19:44]
thestringpuller	lol	[19:45]
Anduck	that's that	[19:46]
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mod6	thestringpuller: just workin.	[19:48]
mod6	actually, im about to run out and see if I can get my new phone.	[19:48]
mod6	i hate the cell companies. vzw are a bunch of savages.	[19:49]
mod6	anyway, wish me luck. bbs :)	[19:49]
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mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/lets-have-fun-with-paul-graham/	[19:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15792 @ 0.00062 = 9.791 BTC [+]	[19:58]
smickles	It’s trading at 27 now, and the only way it ever touches IPO levels is through the continued good orifices of Fairy Godmother Bernanke.	[19:59]
smickles	must have some good holes	[20:00]
thestringpuller	what is trading at 27?	[20:00]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu - not a fan of ycombinator lol	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	not anymore	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	used to like graham 10 years ago, but by now he sounds like a stuffed manequin	[20:01]
thestringpuller	oh facebook at 27	[20:01]
thestringpuller	that was due to aapl losing money	[20:01]
thestringpuller	people took money out of aapl and put it into fb and rim	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	it is due to the fact facebook is lame.	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	it's just myspace redux.	[20:02]
thestringpuller	i was saying it being at 27	[20:02]
thestringpuller	it was at 14	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	a	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	heh i recall when rimm was 140	[20:02]
thestringpuller	even lower	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	and i was buying puts	[20:02]
thestringpuller	smart guy	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	then it was 60	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	i never saw puts worth 80 dollars each before.	[20:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00062 = 2.108 BTC [+]	[20:02]
thestringpuller	the iPhone destroyed the BB market	[20:03]
thestringpuller	or at least disrupted it	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	it was just on the cusp	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	iphone wasn't released yet iirc	[20:03]
thestringpuller	ah	[20:03]
thestringpuller	this was "back in the day"	[20:03]
Bugpowder	I had almost totally blown up my account	[20:04]
Bugpowder	trading options	[20:04]
Bugpowder	was down to $500 in front month puts in RIMM	[20:04]
Bugpowder	then they dropped about $20 a day for three days in a row	[20:04]
Bugpowder	25x gain	[20:04]
Bugpowder	yesssss	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	:D	[20:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00062 = 5.89 BTC [+]	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	those tyhree days were...	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	o god.	[20:06]
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Bugpowder	Somehow I lost all my money shorting the market with front month options in 2007 and 2008	[20:06]
Bugpowder	I mean... WTF	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	i very rarely used options.	[20:06]
Bugpowder	dendreon was glorius though	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	but i literally did not have enough capital to go as short on rimm as i wanted.	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	5 dollar 140 and 12 dollar 145 puts was much nicer than 4:1 margin on stock	[20:07]
smickles	mircea_popescu: so how many S.MPOE are floating around the market now, I see that therea are a little under 50mn for sale right now	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	smickles well the last announcement in nov i had 958mn iirc ?	[20:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00062 = 5.549 BTC [+]	[20:08]
Bugpowder	I would just read Denninger's blog and be like, must buy puts on CFC, Downey	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:10]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: thoroughly mind numbing idiocy working its way towards the sitcom	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	at the time i soundly despised blogs	[20:11]
thestringpuller	it's funny because	[20:11]
thestringpuller	I'm working on a sitcom about startups	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	your sitcom can be either of two things : funny or successful.	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	but im pretty sure it'll be simply not picked.	[20:11]
thestringpuller	yea that's the way of television, but it's more for fun	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	i guess	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	if you mean fun in the sense of submissive women you'd be better off doing porn than daytime tv.	[20:13]
thestringpuller	it's a 15 minute spot for [adult swim]	[20:14]
thestringpuller	this is what paul graham makes me think of these days: http://vimeo.com/41960660	[20:15]
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thestringpuller	the funny thing about that clip is start up businesses really do that when they get their initial funding...	[20:17]
thestringpuller	which is not funny at all it's just scary	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	summary ? i don't have flahs.	[20:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12853 @ 0.00062 = 7.9689 BTC [+]	[20:18]
thestringpuller	there are no words	[20:19]
thestringpuller	uh	[20:19]
thestringpuller	guys get lots of money	[20:19]
thestringpuller	set up business that makes no money	[20:19]
thestringpuller	lots of overhead	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	o that. yeah.	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	in btc it is called "going legit"	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	or else, the McStupidy gambit.	[20:19]
thestringpuller	and when I mean lots of overhead	[20:20]
thestringpuller	they hire a basketball player to sit around and shoot hoops all day	[20:20]
thestringpuller	for clients	[20:20]
thestringpuller	but they have no clients	[20:20]
mircea_popescu	myea	[20:20]
thestringpuller	dropbox is kinda cool though no?	[20:22]
mircea_popescu	cool it is	[20:22]
mircea_popescu	billion dollars ? why ?	[20:22]
mircea_popescu	imagine, i've never used it.	[20:22]
thestringpuller	you could create the same system locally using a an NFS share along with a few scripts	[20:23]
thestringpuller	so no, not worht billion	[20:23]
mircea_popescu	for that matter, any webhost does what they do	[20:24]
mircea_popescu	you make yourself a site and upload there.	[20:24]
thestringpuller	XD	[20:24]
thestringpuller	Facebook paid my tuition though	[20:25]
thestringpuller	well I guess put contracts paid my tuition...	[20:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00062 = 3.41 BTC [+]	[20:26]
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thestringpuller	how does BTC infiltrate the physical market mr. popescu?	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	it doesn't.	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	it gradually but graciously allows that market to use it.	[20:28]
thestringpuller	so what will support BTC? digital goods?	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	Google used to give me a page of the right answers, fast, with no clutter. Now the results seem inspired by the Scientologist principle that what's true is what's true for you. And the pages don't have the clean, sparse feel they used to. Google search results used to look like the output of a Unix utility. Now if I accidentally put the cursor in the wrong place, anything might happen.	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	The way to win here is to build the search engine all the hackers use. A search engine whose users consisted of the top 10,000 hackers and no one else would be in a very powerful position despite its small size, just as Google was when it was that search engine.	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	simple point of fact.	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	me being here, a few others being here is what supports btc.	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	rest doesn't matter.	[20:29]
thestringpuller	support is the wrong phrase	[20:29]
thestringpuller	word*	[20:30]
thestringpuller	grow*	[20:30]
mircea_popescu	why do you care if it grows ?	[20:30]
thestringpuller	would be more like it how does it grow	[20:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 319 @ 0.00350838 = 1.1192 BTC [-]	[20:30]
thestringpuller	it provides more opportunities	[20:30]
thestringpuller	it locks out stupid people	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	ugh.	[20:31]
thestringpuller	I'm looking at it wrong I suppose.	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	possibly. succes is always the sound of the cool kids club going to shit.	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	and it's inevitable in the sense all decay is inevitable	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	so if you really want success, just make cool kids clubs.	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	they'd better be REAL cool as opposed to the play=pretend, circle-jerk, self-granted cool any backwater town kids bestow upon each other for lack of alternatives.	[20:33]
thestringpuller	but then nothing gets done	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	what's this, a fastfood joint ?	[20:34]
thestringpuller	heh, I'm a scientist I would rather see money in the hands of people like Bugpowder	[20:35]
thestringpuller	i would rather fund science	[20:35]
thestringpuller	even if it doesn't bring immediate returns	[20:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 106 @ 0.0035 = 0.371 BTC [-]	[20:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 894 @ 0.00349819 = 3.1274 BTC [-]	[20:36]
thestringpuller	http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2088#comic	[20:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]	[20:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062 = 1.55 BTC [+]	[21:03]
thestringpuller	;;calc (14 - 12) / 14	[21:04]
gribble	0.142857142857	[21:04]
thestringpuller	;;calc (14.50 - 12) / 14.50	[21:05]
gribble	0.172413793103	[21:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00062 = 2.604 BTC [+]	[21:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00062 = 5.828 BTC [+]	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	Ukto https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.60	[21:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]	[21:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00062 = 6.045 BTC [+]	[21:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]	[21:49]
Ukto	yeah	[21:51]
Ukto	been woring on it	[21:51]
Ukto	I caused it :P	[21:51]
Ukto	so I knew it was comming	[21:51]
iz	what ever happened w/ pirate and btcst? did anyone ever sue him or whatever?	[21:54]
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kakobrekla	he paid yesterday.	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	yesterday	[21:55]
mod6	lol	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	pirate seemed such an easy game to play	[21:55]
mod6	i thought mircea_popescu was just fucking with you all	[21:55]
iz	haha, wait.. no.. not really? really?	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	now he's gone...	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONXp-vpE9eU	[21:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00062 = 2.387 BTC [+]	[21:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2036 @ 0.00350019 = 7.1264 BTC [+]	[22:01]
kakobrekla	very appropriate lyrics	[22:02]
mod6	(13:07) < mircea_popescu> o so pirate paid ?	[22:02]
mod6	I thought this was a total joke. ^^^	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	he paid in milk.	[22:02]
kakobrekla	sums it up nicley :)	[22:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35095 @ 0.00062 = 21.7589 BTC [+]	[22:02]
mod6	so he paid up with all the account holders? everyone still got screwed via the bonds though.	[22:03]
mod6	lol @ vid	[22:04]
mod6	YESTERDAY, ALL MY BTC SEEMED SO FAR AWAY	[22:04]
mod6	NOW IT LOOKS AS THOUGH PIRATE PAID	[22:05]
mod6	SO I BELIEVE IN YESTERDAY	[22:05]
mod6	:D	[22:05]
mod6	(that last part was a joke - I never gave pirate or btc&st anything)	[22:06]
thestringpuller	mod6	[22:07]
mod6	hey whats up man	[22:07]
EskimoBob	LOL, looks like the bitcointalk retards have opened a comedy club	[22:07]
thestringpuller	we should have a meeting soon	[22:07]
EskimoBob	I was laughing so hard that I had tears in my eyes. At least they are entertaining	[22:07]
thestringpuller	im always on my phone or driving when you are online	[22:08]
mod6	Yes, good deal thestringpuller. Hmm.. I gotta check and see if I can squeeze in like an hour here... one sec.	[22:08]
mod6	haha. im usually around, but yeah.	[22:09]
mod6	I can take an hour after the next 50 minutes. I gotta prepare a bit for this IBM call I've got at 4.	[22:10]
mod6	im on CDT	[22:10]
mod6	does that work? otherwise sometime later tonight is fine too.	[22:11]
thestringpuller	so 1400 EST?	[22:12]
mod6	lets see... it would be 16:00 EST	[22:13]
mod6	that I'm availble, i have my call at 16:00 CDT	[22:13]
mod6	No sweat, i'll come back here in a bit and try to find ya.	[22:14]
thestringpuller	i meant is 1400 good to meet?	[22:14]
thestringpuller	i will not driving then	[22:14]
thestringpuller	be drivig*	[22:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062 = 6.076 BTC [+]	[22:17]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[22:22]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 13.52003, Best ask: 13.60699, Bid-ask spread: 0.08696, Last trade: 13.52003, 24 hour volume: 34745.59293995, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.51611	[22:22]
dub	so pirate paid back, ewxpect a big sell off, time to get in first before teh panic	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	i thought the panic is because of the quantum asics	[22:28]
dub	that too	[22:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00062 = 14.043 BTC [+]	[22:29]
dub	I want my $10 xmas bitcoins goddamit	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131778.0	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	it is incredible how retarded the forum is	[22:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062 = 2.914 BTC [+]	[22:30]
Anduck	well	[22:31]
EskimoBob	you have no idea. I was just reading what The Augustocroppo was writing. I mean, this guy.... fuuuuck :)	[22:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24678951 = 246.7895 BTC [-]	[22:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00062 = 5.611 BTC [+]	[22:45]
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smickles	jurov: you about?	[22:58]
jurov	yes?	[22:58]
Ukto	..	[22:58]
Ukto	what exactly, are you about?	[22:58]
Ukto	:P	[22:58]
smickles	does mpexagent return an ordernumber when it places an order on mpex?	[22:59]
jurov	no, it would have to create one	[22:59]
thestringpuller	smickles: did you get receipt of my deposit?	[23:00]
jurov	you have to call statjson and match the order later	[23:00]
smickles	how do you associate mpexagent orders with their mpex counterparts to cancel them when desired?	[23:00]
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smickles	:P	[23:00]
smickles	thestringpuller: yes, I take it that I didn't notify you of that?	[23:01]
smickles	jurov: I was hoping that you had it all in one simpe function which i could draw inspiration from :\|	[23:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7896 @ 0.00062 = 4.8955 BTC [+]	[23:01]
jurov	that code is not in mpexagent, it's cinbr secret sauce	[23:01]
smickles	bah, figures	[23:02]
smickles	can I see it an buy it off of you if it fits my needs?	[23:02]
jurov	yes	[23:02]
smickles	what would you charge?	[23:02]
thestringpuller	whoa buying code	[23:03]
thestringpuller	lol	[23:03]
thestringpuller	am i seeing a code for btc transaction about go down	[23:03]
jurov	99BTC :P	[23:03]
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smickles	thestringpuller: i've made hundreds of btc off of similar things	[23:03]
smickles	meh, I know what I need to do, the fee for copy/pasting most of it seems too high to me jurov ;)	[23:04]
smickles	thestringpuller: a while ago I wrote an elliot wave based multiexchange+bitcoinica trade bot	[23:05]
smickles	it was worth a lot to some people	[23:05]
smickles	and the guy selling it for me sold a bunch more copies than he told me about, so I could've made a lot more too :/	[23:06]
jurov	well, maybe you'll come back in 2 months, with foul cries about quantum order waveforms	[23:06]
Ukto	jurov: your supposed to compile it, and sell recurring licensing	[23:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]	[23:06]
Ukto	:P	[23:06]
smickles	jurov: I promised only 6 months of support	[23:06]
smickles	heh, jurov sry, misread that	[23:07]
jurov	no, seriously. we can make an agreement, but i won't release it cheapy	[23:08]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller> whoa buying code <<< MPEx has built an ecosystem	[23:08]
mircea_popescu	i win.	[23:08]
mod6	:]	[23:08]
*	mircea_popescu waits for deals to complete then changes everything	[23:09]
jurov	* will raise fee to 10BTC/hr for consulting then	[23:10]
smickles	jurov: I just want the one part that fetches an order number from a recently placed order, I don't think that's worth 99btc	[23:11]
smickles	it's probably better for me to write it myself anyway	[23:11]
jurov	but that's actually largest part of it	[23:11]
smickles	'cause i'd have to adapt your code to my bot	[23:11]
jurov	thx to mircea	[23:12]
smickles	heh, i suppose so, isn't it	[23:12]
smickles	mircea_popescu: why doesn't it return an order no?	[23:12]
jurov	because it is likely the order never got an id and got executed instead	[23:12]
mod6	it does	[23:12]
smickles	:o	[23:12]
mod6	when you place any order, it returns the order number in the reciept	[23:12]
mod6	everytime	[23:12]
smickles	have I just not noticed this?	[23:12]
mircea_popescu	it does ?	[23:13]
mod6	wait...	[23:13]
mod6	oh ur right.	[23:13]
mod6	sorry, its only in the STAT	[23:13]
smickles	zatcly	[23:13]
mod6	it does return a statement of what order was placed though.	[23:13]
mod6	but yeah, no number. but this was by design.	[23:13]
mod6	to eliminate some HFT type stuff right?	[23:13]
mircea_popescu	not exactly. the system you're talking to has no idea/not the authority to know what order id the order will get or how will be executed	[23:14]
mircea_popescu	and as the entire thing is stateless the only thing you can do is examine the state later	[23:14]
mod6	ok.. i see.	[23:16]
mod6	My original plan here was just to display the order id's through the JSONSTAT	[23:16]
mod6	maybe jurov's is simialr?	[23:16]
mod6	*similar	[23:16]
jurov	mod6, you have to gather transactions, subtract them from the order you placed if they match	[23:17]
smickles	I wonder if i can get away with a 'cancel the order that looks sorta-kinda like ' function	[23:17]
jurov	and then matche the order with the list	[23:17]
smickles	mircea_popescu: this is why mpoebot places orders for limited time, isn't it	[23:17]
mircea_popescu	no ?	[23:17]
mod6	orders can have expiry's or not	[23:17]
mod6	or is that different?	[23:18]
mircea_popescu	i mean... it'd be in any case more effiicent to place limited time orders given that the bot knows how often it runs	[23:18]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00062 = 2.263 BTC [+]	[23:19]
smickles	bah, i would be satisfied with buying mpbor, but I suspect the thing i'm writing will be more profitabled	[23:20]
smickles	-d	[23:20]
smickles	i need to backtest it	[23:21]
jurov	incidentally, i just met a friend who want to do hft bot	[23:21]
jurov	he was enraged with mircea's anti-hft preacutions	[23:21]
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smickles	what? like no liquidity-adder rebate?	[23:22]
smickles	isn't that how hft makes most of its money?	[23:22]
jurov	no, the slow order placing/cancellation	[23:22]
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mod6	yeah HFT would make me leave mpex	[23:23]
mod6	because i don't want to fight a fucking bot to place an order	[23:23]
mod6	that article on ZH really blew my mind. i'd be like fuck it. market tis brok3d.	[23:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00062 = 8.091 BTC [+]	[23:23]
mod6	everything that can be done to preserve the organic market of mpex should be	[23:24]
mod6	it may possibly be the only real market in the world, even guys in nyc or chicago trading pits have to combat these HFTs	[23:25]
smickles	well, damn, i don't think I can put off order number fetching any longer	[23:25]
mod6	they hate it too	[23:25]
jurov	cue that boromir meme "you don't simply fetch order number in mpex"	[23:26]
smickles	lol	[23:26]
smickles	mircea_popescu: would you not like it if I had a ~500 iteration loop which called statjson until it saw the order pop up, if at the end of the 500 iteration it haddn't, it would just assume it got executed?	[23:28]
jurov	smickles, what i'm trying to explain, you have to account for transactions	[23:28]
jurov	cause if half the order gets executed, only other half get an ID	[23:28]
smickles	jurov: I know, but I'll be putting only one order up at a time, so if anything shows up with that mpsic, that's it	[23:29]
jurov	ah, then okay. but you still have to filter txs from previous orders.	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	no, the slow order placing/cancellation << order placing isn't slow ?	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	it's fast!	[23:30]
jurov	yes! it shows in statjson in only 2 to 20 seconds !	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	it may possibly be the only real market in the world, even guys in nyc or chicago trading pits have to combat these HFTs <<< i know. atm i actually do have an edge over nyse/etc.	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	jurov doesn't mean it's not there tho :)	[23:31]
smickles	bah, complications.	[23:31]
jurov	ofc. for certain value of "fast".	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	the twitter to assbot latency is larger than the mpex.co to order queue latency by a degree of magnitude	[23:32]
jurov	like i'm using assbot...puhlease	[23:33]
mod6	mircea_popescu: i agree. If I was there in the pits and my client called me to place a market order immediately and i was being front run by an algo, i'd go banananas.	[23:33]
smickles	it seems, i'll stat, order, stat for diff untill i can reasonably assume that it was fully filled	[23:33]
mod6	ahem *bananas	[23:33]
mod6	:D	[23:33]
mircea_popescu	:p	[23:34]
jurov	yes, just that code that can "reasonably assume" it is far from trivial.	[23:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00062 = 12.958 BTC [+]	[23:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00062 = 2.666 BTC [+]	[23:35]
jurov	w00t all promotional shares of CoinBr.MPBPT shares sold :P	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	so you got 100 btc ?	[23:36]
jurov	50 so far	[23:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00062 = 6.355 BTC [+]	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	lmao she posted her feet	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	ahahahaha	[23:36]
smickles	what, like to /r/feet?	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97272.msg1411280#msg1411280	[23:37]
jurov	no hair?	[23:38]
jurov	i'm disappointed	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	apparently not a real troll	[23:38]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10451 @ 0.00062 = 6.4796 BTC [+]	[23:42]
jurov	nobody wants teh codez. cheapskates.	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	icecubes in alaska	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	you need to sell it to some bank	[23:45]
jurov	them scammers? never	[23:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6067 @ 0.00062 = 3.7615 BTC [+]	[23:47]
jurov	really, if a bank approached me for that.. that would blow me off	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	why would it approach you ?	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	they have no way of knowing you exist, not like socgen trolls irc	[23:56]
jurov	so you meant it the other way around? me going to the bank, offering interface to that mpex thing?	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	sooner or later they'll be desperate to interface.	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	that's when what you learned fucking with it will command 10btc/hour	[23:58]

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