Forum logs for 18 Jul 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 6k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 [00:00]
jurov asciilifeform getting rid of people this way? [00:04]
jurov perhps you're among people whose your suspension of disbelief utterly fails toward self [00:04]
mircea_popescu jurov you don't see it ? [00:05]
asciilifeform jurov: probably not the main purpose. see 'uss maddox' and 'uss maine'. [00:05]
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jurov what's there to see? [00:05]
mircea_popescu ok, let me put this to you. average us middle manager can't fuck his employees, because he's affraid of scandal. of the employees, at least a few would be open to being fucked [00:06]
mircea_popescu out of sheer boredom if nothing else. [00:06]
mircea_popescu suppose this manger now goes to work for me, and i'm "whatever, fuck them all in chains for all i care." [00:06]
mircea_popescu you're telling me he's not going to do it, becase "it's not done" or something ? [00:06]
jurov so he bribes the pilot instead? [00:06]
mircea_popescu the pilot doesn't have to know. [00:06]
asciilifeform jurov: what's there to see << passenger plane deliberately flown over SAM fire zone. shot. 'oh noez eeevil rebels!' [00:07]
jurov how does the pilot not know? [00:07]
jurov where he's flying over? [00:07]
mircea_popescu "mr jurov, we have a very important mission for you. it's to fly here : X" [00:07]
mircea_popescu (we're giving the people over at X your radio id, and they'll shoot you down. omitting to mention this part.) [00:07]
jurov that's the stupid part and risky as hell. if the pilot had half a clue, he'd leak something [00:08]
chetty and while everyone is watching this Israel is sending troops into Gaza [00:08]
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jurov if that was military plane, okay, happens all the time [00:09]
jurov but relying whole plot on on civilian pilot??? [00:09]
mircea_popescu jurov people take unreasonable risks as part of their employment ALL THE TIME [00:09]
mircea_popescu especially if the employers represent them as "standard" [00:09]
asciilifeform for one thing, we have no idea who piloted. another - pilots can also have problems. [00:09]
mircea_popescu this is why there has to be a fucking board of employment in th first place, otherwise people would happily STILL be sucking down phosphorus [00:09]
mircea_popescu and licking radon paint. [00:10]
jurov bullshit [00:10]
mircea_popescu not so. [00:11]
mircea_popescu look into the story of "undark" [00:11]
jurov tell me any other example where *civilians* were used in sucha way [00:11]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2010/corporatiile-si-responsabilitatea/ << pretty good write-up, really. [00:11]
assbot Corporatiile si responsabilitatea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [00:12]
mircea_popescu i'll have to have it translated. [00:12]
asciilifeform jurov: rms lusitania. [00:12]
mircea_popescu http://www.damninteresting.com/undark-and-the-radium-girls/ << english summary. [00:12]
assbot Undark and the Radium Girls Damn Interesting [00:12]
jurov they had no clue that radium is poisonous, how can you compare that with sending pilot into war zone which everyone is avoiding? [00:14]
mircea_popescu .... [00:14]
asciilifeform interestingly, british gov. still forbids any serious exploration of the lusitania wreck. [00:14]
mircea_popescu jurov they had about the same clue. [00:14]
mircea_popescu the only reason that is notable is because the radium jaw is really just phosphorus jaw. [00:14]
mircea_popescu do you know what it took to move from white to red ? [00:14]
mircea_popescu ;;google phossy jaw [00:15]
gribble Phossy jaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Uncovering the cause of "phossy jaw" Circa 1858 to 1906: oral and ...: ; 10 Deadliest Occupational Diseases in History: [00:15]
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chetty deliberate medical experiments are a good example of putting civillians in danger [00:18]
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mircea_popescu mike_c: this feels the same as "bitbet is a scam" flamewars: "[FCC levies huge fine on Stern] << it does huh. [00:30]
mike_c in the sense that there is no such thing as bad publicity [00:30]
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mircea_popescu i think maybe what's at work here is, that "there's no such thing as deliberate character assasination when the people trying to do it are a relatively irrelevant, powerless and uninfluential minority". [00:31]
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mike_c yeah, loud criticism from an irrelevant source accidentally boosts awareness of its target. [00:32]
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mircea_popescu pretty much. [00:32]
mircea_popescu extra points when the message doesn't even make sense in a way readily apparent to the intended demo. [00:33]
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mircea_popescu like fcc claiming "lulz are bad mkay" or reddit claiming "people not doing what i think are evil mkay" [00:33]
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mircea_popescu mthreat omfg the entire building smells of pizza. MY pizza. brb. [00:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00270106 = 1.0804 BTC [-] {5} [00:40]
BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/snowden-nsa-workers-routinely-share-your-nude-photos-1606762730 [00:45]
assbot Snowden: NSA Workers Routinely Share Your Nude Photos [00:45]
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BingoBoingo http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jul/17/edward-snowden-video-interview [00:45]
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assbot Edward Snowden: 'If I end up in chains in Guantnamo I can live with that' - video interview | World news | theguardian.com [00:45]
BingoBoingo So... NSA has all the n00ds [00:47]
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chetty time to raid NSA for keeping child pron? [00:55]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [00:56]
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assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3186XN8.txt ) [00:56]
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dub BingoBoingo: but.. if you do nothign wrong theres nothign to hide!!1 [00:59]
BingoBoingo If I've done nothing wrong I have everything to hide, because I wouldn't be cool!!! [01:02]
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mircea_popescu lol [01:16]
mthreat mircea_popescu: mmmmmm pizza [01:16]
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dub so.. mh17 false flag op, 'murican bitbet on how long till muricans deploy? [01:26]
dub er [01:26]
dub extra murican there [01:26]
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mircea_popescu yeah, how you gonna resolve it. [01:28]
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mircea_popescu http://wcdn01.sexgangsters.com/static/hero/74_78_72_76_75.png << if anyone's curious, this is my current avatar. [01:31]
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assbot BayAreaCoins +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 [01:39]
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BigBitz mircea_popescu; you're one crazy man. [01:39]
mircea_popescu what now !? [01:39]
mircea_popescu !up BayAreaCoins [01:40]
-assbot- You voiced BayAreaCoins for 30 minutes. [01:40]
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mircea_popescu o o lol. [01:40]
BayAreaCoins (just fucking off with WoT stuff, but ty sir) [01:40]
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BingoBoingo !up Peach [01:49]
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BayAreaCoins Olah peach, so boobies?? [01:49]
BayAreaCoins :P [01:49]
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Peach lol [01:50]
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Peach How much is offered? [01:50]
BayAreaCoins mircea_popescu is the dude to talk to if they are still offering that. [01:50]
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mircea_popescu lol what worked. [01:50]
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BingoBoingo !up Peach [01:51]
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mircea_popescu webirc split huh. [01:51]
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BingoBoingo Oh noes netslips [01:51]
Peach what are they asking for? [01:52]
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mircea_popescu Peach http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ read that. [01:53]
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Peach I don't like this, just-dice is easier to read. [01:53]
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BayAreaCoins Peach ok so the deal was last time i was in here. For .1 you get a string of letters n numbers. Send a pic of boobs with that and the letters/number = free .1btc. [01:54]
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Peach I would do it with it covering up my nipples but I'm not showing my boobs for .1 Bay [01:54]
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assbot I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [01:55]
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mircea_popescu !down Peach [01:55]
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mircea_popescu why do people think there's something to negotiate is entirely beyond me. [01:56]
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Peach I'm not showing full on boobs for .1btc [01:56]
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Peach if I can cover up my nipples I will hold a sign or whatever, but not nudes. [01:58]
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BingoBoingo %d [01:59]
dub mircea_popescu: I just checked #bitcoin-camwhores, its avail [01:59]
mircea_popescu dub so get it. [01:59]
Peach I made a dance video I will share for .1btv ;) [01:59]
-tomaw- [Global Notice} Hi, sorry for the rerouting spam. I'm done now. [01:59]
BigBitz wait... [01:59]
BigBitz what... [01:59]
BigBitz nipples. [01:59]
BigBitz nudes. [01:59]
* BigBitz throws money at screen. [01:59]
BayAreaCoins lol [01:59]
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Peach would have to be way more than .1 for nudes lol [01:59]
BigBitz Heh. [01:59]
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BingoBoingo ;;google they really are buttcoins nao [01:59]
gribble They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: [01:59]
BayAreaCoins O well I tried! Sry to waste your time peaches <3 [01:59]
mircea_popescu motherfucker what is wrong with assbot now. [02:00]
BigBitz is Peach a camwhore? [02:00]
BayAreaCoins Negative [02:00]
BayAreaCoins Just-dice mod who is actually pretty cute [02:00]
BigBitz but you're trying to pimp her? [02:00]
BayAreaCoins Um no [02:00]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla whay assbot not werk. [02:00]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 500209.74 in 501 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -36.29 [02:00]
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BayAreaCoins I just like tits [02:00]
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BigBitz I am an avid fan of tits. [02:00]
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BayAreaCoins Me too my dude me too :D Figure she makes .1 and we see tits... win win [02:00]
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mircea_popescu halelujah. [02:00]
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BingoBoingo !b 3 [02:00]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2WZ5RT8.txt ) [02:00]
kakobrekla m? [02:01]
mircea_popescu well it took meanwhile [02:01]
mircea_popescu the !down peach is about 50 lines up. [02:01]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/15/ra/4TNIsTqN/irc.png [02:02]
kakobrekla move to a faster country. [02:02]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla omg hater on lulzgertina. it was prolly freenode being all slow! [02:03]
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kakobrekla your net is slow slow i still didnt get your lulzgertina line. [02:04]
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mircea_popescu hahah [02:04]
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BingoBoingo !up nubbins` [02:05]
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BigBitz !down mircea_popescu [02:06]
BigBitz Nice. [02:06]
BigBitz Bot knows mircea_popescu is the MASTAH. [02:06]
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BigBitz !down mircea_popescu [02:07]
BigBitz NICE. [02:07]
BigBitz :) [02:07]
mircea_popescu !down BigBitz [02:08]
mircea_popescu it dun work on l2 ppls. [02:08]
BayAreaCoins !down bayareacoins [02:09]
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mircea_popescu lmao [02:09]
BigBitz :) [02:09]
BigBitz you can't down me, mircea_popescu? [02:09]
BingoBoingo sha-256 d5c959a536771ac215bc678d788f41b39c5000223e653881d3892531031116c2 [02:09]
mircea_popescu BigBitz not through this interface anyway. [02:09]
BigBitz :) [02:09]
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BingoBoingo !up BayAreaCoins [02:10]
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BayAreaCoins :P thanks [02:10]
BigBitz !down BayAreaCoins [02:10]
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BingoBoingo BayAreaCoins: Now you know the hazards of going down on yourself [02:10]
mircea_popescu BayAreaCoins so if this chick isn't a camwhore why exactly would you be pestering her. [02:10]
BigBitz :) [02:10]
BingoBoingo !up BayAreaCoins [02:10]
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BigBitz ( Sorry. I'll stop now. I'm going ) [02:10]
BingoBoingo !up moiety_ [02:10]
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BayAreaCoins mircea_popescu um cause you got to start somewhere. She was interested. She had made a dancing video in Just-dice and LiKaShing tipped her like 20btc.. I didnt figure she would be down, but close mouths don't get fed (titties in this case. She had nice tits it appeared) [02:11]
BayAreaCoins Worth a shot. [02:11]
mircea_popescu i guess. [02:12]
mircea_popescu worst angle a girl could possibly present herself if she's not actually a pro. simply comes off as a whiny entitled pointless bitch. [02:12]
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BingoBoingo Maybe she just hashes her nipples to make private keys? [02:13]
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BayAreaCoins I dunno she had nice tits in her dancing vid, but not over .1btc nice tits imo. O well shrug off that fail and keep on keeping on. More tits in the world :) [02:16]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/heres-a-great-idea-for-a-film/ [02:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 290 @ 0.0027 = 0.783 BTC [-] [02:31]
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cazalla indiancandy1: malaysia airlines is running a special if you still need a ticket [02:44]
kakobrekla only seven buttcoins? [02:49]
kakobrekla but the flight is in sex weeks. [02:49]
mircea_popescu "I've noticed the same weird principle on soc.singles: the more a man needs a virtual woman, the more threatened he is by the very concept. Why is that? [Rhetorical.]" << for the exact same reason poor people understand better than rich people that they can't afford substitutes. [02:56]
BingoBoingo Gribble why can't Malasia airlines stay in the air? [03:02]
BingoBoingo ;;8ball [03:03]
gribble Come again? [03:03]
fluffypony ;;8ball can Air Malaysia go another 6 months without an incident? [03:09]
gribble One would be wise to think so. [03:09]
fluffypony ;;8ball is BingoBoingo secretly a ball player? [03:09]
gribble Maybe... [03:09]
fluffypony vague. [03:09]
mircea_popescu ;;8ball did fluffypony have sex with his wife and two hookers [03:10]
gribble Maybe... [03:10]
BingoBoingo ;;8ball is fluffypony wearing his pony tail buttplug like right nao? [03:10]
gribble Yes! [03:10]
fluffypony hah hah [03:10]
fluffypony woo hoo! [03:10]
fluffypony gribble is the font of all knowledge [03:10]
mircea_popescu ;;8ball was that lawsky fellow one of the hookers ? [03:10]
gribble You're kidding, right? [03:10]
cazalla BayAreaCoins, post dancing vid link at least [03:11]
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mircea_popescu ;;8ball im kidding, right ? [03:11]
gribble The outlook is poor. [03:11]
mircea_popescu lol [03:11]
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fluffypony ;;8ball is everyone on the Bitcoin foundation seriously into little boys? [03:11]
gribble Maybe... [03:11]
mircea_popescu ;;8ball are the little boys enjoying it ? [03:12]
gribble Yes! [03:12]
fluffypony hah hah [03:12]
mircea_popescu i guess gribble's one of 'em. [03:12]
mircea_popescu ;;8ball do you find assbot attractive ? [03:12]
gribble I doubt it very much. [03:12]
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penguirker New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/17/proof-that-mycelium-knows-how-to-make-a-better-rng-for-its-entropy-dongle-and-isnt/ [03:21]
BingoBoingo ;;8ball Paranoia is healthy if it is for practical reasons, right? [03:21]
gribble In your dreams. [03:21]
cazalla !up BayAreaCoins [03:22]
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BingoBoingo ;;8ball What about atcbot gribble. You know atcbot can get it. [03:32]
gribble Yes! [03:32]
BingoBoingo %ob [03:34]
atcbot 722@279 30k@278 43k@242 | 208k@210 200k@202 45k@201 [03:34]
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BingoBoingo !t h Cog [03:42]
assbot You had the last Philistine. This one's mine. [03:42]
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kakobrekla you prolly wont get it on hl [03:46]
kakobrekla !last havelock cognitive [03:47]
assbot These beans is shit. [03:47]
kakobrekla yeah [03:47]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell bitcoinpete You cut off my hashing privates joke early... :( [03:47]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:47]
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kakobrekla !last havelock cog [03:47]
assbot Last trade for COG on HAVELOCK was at 0.00160016 BTC [-] [03:47]
kakobrekla thar. [03:47]
BingoBoingo Ah [03:48]
BingoBoingo !Mpif [03:48]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 B (Total: 474.63 B). Delta: -0.65 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] [03:48]
BingoBoingo !mpiF [03:48]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 B (Total: 474.63 B). Delta: -0.65 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] [03:48]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 314 @ 0.00268559 = 0.8433 BTC [-] {3} [03:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 455 @ 0.0026502 = 1.2058 BTC [-] {3} [03:55]
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danielpbarron !up VanCleef [04:11]
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BingoBoingo danielpbarron: My how the kingdom of loathing has changed since I last visited. [04:13]
danielpbarron yeah; they make new content on a monthly basis [04:13]
danielpbarron with other random changes at any time [04:13]
BingoBoingo It just seems... to have accelerated a lot since the last time I was on (roughly the Crimborg outbreak) [04:14]
danielpbarron I don't know what that is [04:14]
BingoBoingo reeses: rng whitening http://www.epmonthly.com/www.epmonthly.com/features/current-features/oxygen-is-a-drug-act-accordingly/ Rassah alf [04:14]
assbot Oxygen is a Drug Act Accordingly [04:14]
danielpbarron I don't play continuously [04:15]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: It was one of their christmas events [04:15]
BingoBoingo Maybe '07 or '08 [04:15]
danielpbarron sometimes I get really into it and log in every day to get the most adventures per day or whatever [04:15]
danielpbarron right now I'm not playing it at all [04:15]
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danielpbarron I focus on getting #1 collections of items, especially items that cannot be traded or discarded [04:16]
BingoBoingo May short term goal now that I remembered it is a thing is to get spectral pickles to be my favorite food again now that the price has come down 10 fold from the last time I saw them. [04:17]
BingoBoingo Also to try these new seasonal ascensions I missed [04:17]
danielpbarron my main account was created before ascension rolled out and has never ascended [04:18]
BingoBoingo Ah, that was back before I had regular internet access [04:18]
danielpbarron 2004ish [04:18]
danielpbarron i recently moved into spectral picals [04:19]
danielpbarron pickles*; I was previously in ten-leaf-clovers [04:19]
danielpbarron april fools rolled around so I made the switch [04:19]
BingoBoingo Ah [04:20]
moiety see google added btc currency converting to the search box [04:20]
BingoBoingo moiety: It did indeed [04:20]
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BingoBoingo I wonder when Larry and Sergey will come in here groveling for airfare? [04:20]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Most of my playing occured in the spectral pickle factory drought [04:20]
BingoBoingo reeses: User provided entropy sources http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25859-stem-cell-treatment-causes-nasal-growth-in-womans-back.html Rassah asciilifeform [04:23]
assbot Stem cell treatment causes nasal growth in woman's back - health - 08 July 2014 - New Scientist [04:23]
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danielpbarron the most impressive thing I did in KoL was get the #8 collection of FDKOL Commendations [04:24]
danielpbarron unless someone is sitting on a huge pile that they haven't publically displayed, that will never get topped (can't get that item anymore and you can't trade it) [04:25]
BingoBoingo I dunno really if I did anything too special [04:27]
BingoBoingo I mean last time I really played Kol was before 68749514392093b165be8c9c53df18107748fb18a50f0e4352fce5d0cfe56943 [04:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00270336 = 2.7034 BTC [+] {7} [04:29]
asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014-info/mh17/mh17.htm << ua mop-up. [04:29]
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danielpbarron every time I end up playing it again, I end up wasting too much time optimizing my adventures per day and it becomes like a job that doesn't pay [04:31]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: The thing to do is get drunk and bank adventures for the next day while actually getting drunk so you pass out [04:32]
danielpbarron I'll just leave my spectral pickle pile in my mall store until the price moves up and then use that meat to back MEAT [04:32]
danielpbarron yeah I know about that [04:32]
danielpbarron it gets way deeper than that [04:32]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: What class you play as? I forget. [04:33]
* danielpbarron is a pastamancer! [04:33]
danielpbarron but classes don't matter so much anymore of you ascend a lot [04:33]
BingoBoingo ascending takes a lot longer post NS 13 [04:36]
BingoBoingo So many lols https://twitter.com/RealCoins [04:38]
assbot Real Coins (RealCoins) auf Twitter [04:38]
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BingoBoingo !up Basquiat_ [04:44]
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BingoBoingo Hello Basquiat_ [04:44]
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BingoBoingo Erik speaks http://moneyandstate.com/reflections-right-privacy-response-nydfs-bitcoin-proposal/ [04:52]
assbot Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal [04:52]
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BingoBoingo http://lists.openwall.net/linux-kernel/2014/07/17/235 [04:54]
assbot linux-kernel - [PATCH, RFC] random: introduce getrandom(2) system call [04:54]
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dignork asciilifeform: is hashing random input is inherently a bad idea? [04:57]
asciilifeform dignork: consider what a hash (any algo) actually does. [04:58]
dignork assume the following scenario, I'm generating random data by throwing dices, but I expect some bias: dices are non-ideal [04:59]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://signor-antonio.livejournal.com/378722.html << flight plan shenanigans [04:59]
BingoBoingo dignork: You don't machine and balance your dice at each corner? [05:00]
asciilifeform dignork: the correct answer is von neumann's 'fair coin' algorithm. [05:00]
asciilifeform gives unbiased output at the potential cost of never terminating (in that case you know for a fact that your entropy source is defective) [05:00]
dignork asciilifeform: so compensating bias by hashing a bit more of the dice raw data is a bad idea I guess [05:02]
asciilifeform dignork: hash is a good way to close your own eyes on problems with the rng [05:03]
BingoBoingo dignork: Turn the six sides into two outcomes 0 and 1, but first make sure the dice balance at the eight corners [05:03]
asciilifeform consider sha2(0, sha2(0, sha2(0, ... ))) [05:03]
dignork BingoBoingo: I'm assuming usage of cheap off-the-shelf dice [05:03]
asciilifeform the sequence will pass 'diehard' and whatever tests of 'entropic' you like [05:03]
asciilifeform without being the least bit useful cryptographically [05:04]
asciilifeform just as, e.g. the digits of 'pi' will. [05:04]
dignork asciilifeform: I get it, but if the data is really random with "small" bias, how hashing makes it worse? [05:05]
BingoBoingo dignork: The way hashes break is "collisions" [05:05]
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BingoBoingo You don't get to pick what weaker value might collide without your tronger input [05:05]
asciilifeform dignork: two separate issues. one - by papering over the problem. two - hashing introduces a correlation between bits, that may be useful to enemy who devoted serious effort to studying the hash in question. [05:05]
* dignork gone away, a bit smarter [05:06]
asciilifeform note that that last part is (afaik) discussed - nowhere, by no one. [05:06]
asciilifeform don't look for it in the textbooks [05:07]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Roughly spring 2005 that was in a discrete mathematics class I took. Don't remember if in the since resold textbook or not. [05:07]
dignork i thought about it, kind of partial reversal in case hash input size is smaller than hash output [05:08]
* BingoBoingo was roughly beginning the process of rotting his brain with booze at this point [05:08]
BingoBoingo The professor/underDean teaching also had a ~10 year CV black hole... [05:09]
asciilifeform rng designers very often succumb to the temptation to 'inflate' their output using a hash [05:09]
asciilifeform which is precisely this scenario - input is considerably smaller than out [05:09]
asciilifeform even assuming equal sized input and output - consider the set of all possible outputs of, e.g. sha2. [05:10]
asciilifeform for a given width of input [05:10]
BingoBoingo Professor in question was roughly a reverse Mircea, man dominated by wife [05:10]
asciilifeform it is quite possible (for want of a proof, i cannot declare definitively) that certain bitstrings can -never- get spat out [05:11]
asciilifeform thus, the set of possible outputs has a 'hole' [05:12]
asciilifeform likewise, given that (by design!) a 'cryptographic' hash will be computed in such a way that every bit of the input affects every bit out the output, [05:12]
asciilifeform the enemy now knows something about bit N by knowing bit N-k. [05:12]
asciilifeform exactly what he knows - i can't say [05:13]
asciilifeform but there is a nonzero amount of information conveyed. [05:13]
asciilifeform simply by the fact of the hash being in use [05:13]
BingoBoingo !b 7 [05:13]
assbot Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1KXJQ18.txt ) [05:13]
asciilifeform don't accept the above as 'gospel', study the design of a popular traditional hash and see exactly what i'm getting at [05:14]
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asciilifeform as to how an enemy might proceed to put this hypothesis to actual use, see example of 'satcoin'. [05:15]
asciilifeform !s satcoin [05:15]
assbot 8 results for 'satcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=satcoin [05:15]
asciilifeform (frame the hash operation as a logical 'sat' system, work backwards to exclude regions of possible input state space based on known output bits) [05:16]
BingoBoingo So considering the partial UCL tear "No" on either of these bets is very probably free money up to the house edge collision http://bitbet.us/bet/883/masahiro-tanaka-will-win-al-cy-young-award/ http://bitbet.us/bet/739/masahiro-tanaka-wins-more-than-15-games/ [05:18]
assbot BitBet - Masahiro Tanaka will win AL Cy Young award :: 0.04 B (27%) on Yes, 0.11 B (73%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 69`978 (100`000 to 1) [05:18]
assbot BitBet - Masahiro Tanaka wins more than 15 games :: 0.3 B (57%) on Yes, 0.23 B (43%) on No | closing in 2 months 6 days | weight: 27`828 (100`000 to 1) [05:18]
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BingoBoingo !up AndrewJackson Y u kill Cherokee? [05:23]
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BingoBoingo Ur basically 'Murcan Hitler AndrewJackson [05:24]
BingoBoingo Well, more 'Murican Netanyahu since the Cherokee were tan, but... [05:24]
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AndrewJackson BingoBoingo - i'm not really Andrewjackson, its just my handle [05:35]
BingoBoingo AndrewJackson: Fuck you, that group accounted for like 1/32 of my ancestors [05:35]
BingoBoingo Not sure exactly because of cultural norms about breeding age vs. actualuality of the thing [05:36]
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BingoBoingo %t [05:43]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 211 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 6k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 [05:43]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [05:43]
gribble Current Blocks: 311255 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1224 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 47 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18508732489.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.76277 [05:43]
BingoBoingo %ob [05:43]
atcbot 722@279 30k@278 43k@242 | 20k@211 208k@210 200k@202 [05:43]
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decimation asciilifeform: to quote Knuth on the subject: "There is a fairly obvious objection to this technique [using arithmetic operations to acquire random numbers]: How can a sequence generated in such a way be random, since each number is completely determined by its predecessor? The answer is that the sequence isn't random, but it appears to be. In typical applications the actual relationship between one number and its successor has no [05:47]
decimation physical significance; hence the nonrandom character is not really undesirable" [05:47]
BingoBoingo For anyone contemplating higher than kitchen oven temperatures, but less than barrel fire temperatures: http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/tandoorpt1pyro.htm http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/tandoorpt2pyro.htm [05:49]
decimation laster: "Sequences generated in a deterministic way such as this are often called pseudoranom or quasirandom sequences in the highbrow technical literature, but in most places of this book we shall simply call them random sequences, with the understanding that they only appear to be random. Being "apparently random" is perhaps all that can be said about any random sequence anyway." [05:49]
decimation not terribly satisfactory [05:50]
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BingoBoingo Some would say that objection is a "political objection" [05:51]
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Duffer1 ni hao [05:54]
Duffer1 r u china [05:54]
Duffer1 :P [05:54]
BingoBoingo lol [05:54]
Duffer1 most of the new parts are here today, case tomorrow [05:55]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/489966636279939072 [05:55]
Duffer1 my old comp served me well, she will be missed [05:56]
BingoBoingo Duffer1: Always [05:57]
BingoBoingo Though maybe in the tweet I should have included the canonical form [06:02]
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BingoBoingo So who here hasn't written a requiem in case "wetware has problems..." [06:05]
Duffer1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1iecuzMLmo [06:05]
assbot gandalf falls one hour - YouTube [06:05]
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benkay who is this diana_coman? [06:15]
benkay ;;gettrust diana_coman [06:15]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user diana_coman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=diana_coman | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=diana_coman | Rated since: Tue Mar 26 18:56:33 2013 [06:15]
benkay wow [06:17]
BingoBoingo /me wonders who hasn't written their own requiem [06:18]
BingoBoingo Or has papers saying their cadaver has joined the roman church at the moment of death [06:20]
dub wat [06:21]
BingoBoingo dub: I have vices, my last minutes aren't going to be pretty. I want the mourners at my memorial to feel that. [06:22]
BingoBoingo Also you can make the song of wrath in the requiem pretty badass with some power cords, diminished 5th's and ending the whole thing on a suspended seventh... [06:23]
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dub you'll be dead, what does it matter [06:24]
benkay hm this nydfs paper looks like a suicide note from the usg [06:24]
BingoBoingo dub: I'll still be a ghost and I'll haunt the shit out of you if you keep up this attitude [06:24]
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BingoBoingo Catholicism does a lot of shit wrong like Brock style kiddie diddling, but they do some stuff right like giving the memorial service for the dead a song of wrath [06:29]
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BingoBoingo !up Luke-Jr [06:39]
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BingoBoingo Luke-Jr: The song of wrath: A cool perk of Catholicism, or so cool it is the only necessary part? [06:39]
asciilifeform decimation: the suitability of a number sequence for use as 'cryptographic entropy' is not a mathematical property of the sequence. it is a property of the aggregate of the sequence and the world in which it lives - i.e. whether the sequence is, or can easily become, known to the enemy. [06:42]
asciilifeform decimation: to make this clearer: the digits of 'pi' pass every test of 'entropic quality' you can think of. except, naturally, the fact of them being the digits of 'pi.' [06:43]
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BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/489980028289961984 [06:48]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: re: those pots: [06:48]
asciilifeform ;;google microwave foundry [06:48]
gribble How to make a crucible for a microwave foundry - YouTube: ; How to make a microwave foundry part 2 - YouTube: ; Microwave melting of metals - Talisman: [06:48]
asciilifeform ^ similar design [06:49]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: To tell you the truth what I really want to do is synthetic corundrum in my back yard [06:49]
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dub http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000003007434/intercepted-audio-of-ukraine-separatists.html?smid=tw-nytimesworld [06:57]
assbot Intercepted Audio of Ukraine Separatists - Video - NYTimes.com [06:57]
dub dat oh shi- moment [06:57]
decimation [06:57]
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BingoBoingo !up chax [07:00]
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* BingoBoingo marvels over how common aluminum oxides are and yet how coveted particular tained aluminum oxides are [07:01]
asciilifeform decimation: knuth was, in fact, wrong. there are inadequacies in a pseudorandom sequence of whatever variety that do not concern cryptography at all. see, for example, this - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2014#574674 [07:04]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [07:04]
dub BingoBoingo: related thinkg floated past my twitter feed http://kidsactivitiesblog.com/9140/mummification-lets-mummify-barbie [07:08]
assbot Mummification: Let's Mummify Barbie! - Kids Activities Blog [07:08]
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* BingoBoingo has mixed feelings. would like to see if pcp give asciilifeform further practical paranoia or takes him over the edge [07:09]
* asciilifeform hasn't tried, generally works sober [07:09]
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* BingoBoingo still believs in "Balmer Coefficient" even if Ballmer hasn't hit it himself in decades. [07:11]
BingoBoingo dub: I am horrified at that lapse. You can't rightly mummify things that never lived. [07:11]
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dub china brings teh science https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsyt5ZrCAAEDBPT.jpg [07:16]
dub (official party twitter acct) [07:16]
BingoBoingo dub: OMG 7 is te new 4!!! [07:16]
dub and if you fold a 20 yuan note in 3 and holt it upside down maos nose looks like a 7 [07:18]
dub also teh cure for aids was on that flight [07:21]
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dub and 7 is the gayest number [07:22]
BingoBoingo I thought <-8 was the gayest number [07:23]
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dignork numerlogy - extreme facepalm http://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/in-extremis-bodies-with-no-regret-sandro-giordano-9.jpg [07:23]
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jborkl Thank you [07:46]
BingoBoingo You are welcome jborkl [07:47]
jborkl So how is the mpex rebuild progressing? [07:49]
BingoBoingo Seems to be going from MP's reports... Just the pain of rebuilding and robusting at the same time is a further necessary pain [07:55]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [07:59]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 626.89, Best ask: 626.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 626.89, 24 hour volume: 4729.62277386, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 619.870745689 [07:59]
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BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/490006684354355200 [08:34]
penguirker New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/17/beware-the-source-or-the-festering-of-innovation-maybe-even-of-song-of-natures-wrath-but-who-really-knows-so-stfu/ [08:35]
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BingoBoingo So... mircea_popescu offers camgirls 0.1 BTC for tits, I offer lawsky 0.01 for sharpie in the pooper [08:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 0.17409562 = 11.1421 BTC [-] {16} [08:41]
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BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Link to http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html on #b-a site is broken because benkay kills blawgs [08:49]
assbot 404 Not Found [08:49]
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bayareacoins Thanks man [08:54]
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BingoBoingo You're welcome [08:54]
bayareacoins How is your day going? Anything fun and exciting or just another day in the neighborhood? [08:54]
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BingoBoingo Just drunk as fuck and shat out a new blawg post [08:55]
bayareacoins Niceeee whatcha drinking on? [08:55]
BingoBoingo bayareacoins: Grain alcohol and distilled water. POE [08:56]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/DoubleEmMartin/status/489934497434308608 [08:56]
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bayareacoins If you ever need a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle or anything similar to that let me know and I can probably beat markets price [08:57]
BingoBoingo WFT is Pappy van winkle??? [08:57]
bayareacoins Small batch bourbon. Best bourbon in the universe good sir. [08:57]
BingoBoingo And how does it advance my goal of purity of essence. Simple mix of ETOH and H2O [08:58]
BingoBoingo Ruskies just shot down a plane of CIA aids inventors https://twitter.com/DoubleEmMartin/status/489945991949594624 have to start cleansing nao. [08:59]
bayareacoins If you have to ask then you probably don't need to know :D Just know if you ever do want a bottle of Pappy hit me up :) [08:59]
bayareacoins Now that you heard about it tonight I bet you hear about it at least twice more this week. Generally how it works [09:00]
BingoBoingo I actually prefer the standards. Distilled liqour is an area where the scaling up tends to produce more consistent quality. [09:00]
bayareacoins lol [09:01]
bayareacoins These are $2000 bottles + . They only bottle 3000 23yr's on the years they do bottle. [09:01]
BingoBoingo And if I am in a Whiskey mood how does $2000 for moonshine beat General Grant's favorite old corw at the low end or moiety's people at the high end? [09:02]
bayareacoins You've seen $2000 moonshine before? [09:02]
bayareacoins I'm from the Ozarks and have never seen that :D [09:03]
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bayareacoins BingoBoingo good sir, you have a wonderful night. I'm off to holler at this chick and then pass out. [09:05]
BingoBoingo bayareacoins: That's part of the problem with the price point. I've drank small batch hillbilly made and aged moonshine. Scarcity for its own sake does not guarentee a premium product [09:05]
BingoBoingo lol [09:05]
bayareacoins You're out of your element Donny :D google Pappy Van Winkle. Gnight :D [09:05]
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BingoBoingo I have a feeling the natural end to this debate would be similar to Mircea's debate about wines [09:07]
BingoBoingo Trying to jsut artificially up the price is an LVHM sort of scam [09:08]
dub there is the small matter of aesthetics [09:13]
BingoBoingo dub: Aethetics is a large matter [09:18]
BingoBoingo Whiskey can only get so good in Kentucky and Wild Turkey and Knobb Creek own that niche. To get better you need Wisky from Scotland. [09:19]
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dub im not going to argue but I know people who would [09:30]
dignork BingoBoingo: why do you assume that killswitch opportunity is over (your link to loper)? [09:32]
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BingoBoingo dignork: Nash Equilibrium [09:33]
dignork at the time of writing balance was different? [09:33]
BingoBoingo Well compare pub dates. [09:35]
dignork 2 years ago, gox is dead, large holders still exist, potential of dropping price to near zero is still there [09:37]
BingoBoingo Dropping to near zero on Stamp et al is still possible, but... Actual drop to near zero isn't possible... [09:40]
BingoBoingo Not anymore [09:40]
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dignork ;;market sell 100000 [09:40]
gribble Bitstamp | A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 10818261.1549 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 108.1826 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 39.6821 seconds [09:40]
BingoBoingo And who other than a govenment would survive doing such a sell on stamp to colelct their fiat after the Bitstamp anal probe? [09:41]
dignork tbh, i don't think that short price drop would kill the system, but I still don't see how today is different from 2012 [09:43]
BingoBoingo Well, how much BTC does Usagi or Dank control atm? [09:44]
dignork dunno, 10k? [09:44]
BingoBoingo Honestly that change was what made $100/BTC possible [09:44]
BingoBoingo Nah, maybe together they control 15 [09:44]
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dignork So them loosing btc, makes killswitch impossible? [09:45]
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BingoBoingo Well, it makes it harder that dude who can't sell his guitar and dude who can't sell his bike no longer have BTC to sell [09:46]
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BingoBoingo dignork: That people who hold BTC now are capable of buying more if it goes down instead of crying makes a big difference. [09:48]
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mircea_popescu assbot: Stem cell treatment causes nasal growth in woman's back - health - 08 July 2014 - New Scientist << lmao [10:42]
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mircea_popescu dignork: i thought about it, kind of partial reversal in case hash input size is smaller than hash output << you have to look into rainbow tables. try something easy and well studied like md5 [10:44]
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mircea_popescu by the time you've got a few tbs of rainbow tables you generally also have a good enough understanding of why exactly whitening doesn't do much. [10:44]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell decimation you'll have to bear in mind knuth was interested in randomness from the perspective of scientific simulation, not from the perspective of cryptography (a topic he never reasearched or to any degree understood) [10:50]
gribble The operation succeeded. [10:50]
mircea_popescu benkay http://trilema.com/2010/azi-nu-se-sarbatoreste-nimic/#comment-17112 [10:50]
assbot Azi nu se sarbatoreste nimic pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [10:50]
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mircea_popescu jborkl: So how is the mpex rebuild progressing? << slowly. [10:52]
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mrX_ ty [11:42]
mircea_popescu yw. so who are you ? [11:45]
mrX_ BitBet user [11:45]
mircea_popescu cool. [11:45]
Madeline how do I get gribble to authorize me? [11:47]
mrX_ I wonder if BitBet has anything to say about how they are refusing to resolve this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ [11:47]
assbot BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 8 hours ago [11:47]
mircea_popescu Madeline are you registered ? [11:47]
pankkake http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [11:47]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] [11:47]
mircea_popescu mrX_ waiting for teh usms to come up with the winning bid. [11:47]
Madeline I'm going to say no [11:47]
mircea_popescu Madeline then folow pankkake's link [11:48]
pankkake http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/#c3498 lol I love the anonymous comments of BitBet [11:48]
assbot BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 8 hours ago [11:48]
mircea_popescu pankkake it's almost like 4chan pre-cancer. [11:48]
Madeline awesome, thank you! [11:48]
mrX_ trolls will be trolls [11:49]
pankkake I hope we eventually know though, refunds are no fun [11:50]
fluffypony I don't get why that bet is an issue [11:50]
pankkake I'm not sure they realize bitbet takes the fee anyways [11:50]
fluffypony the price hasn't been released [11:50]
mircea_popescu fluffypony new people. [11:50]
pankkake they consider it won't ever be? [11:50]
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fluffypony pankkake: as far as I'm aware there have been a bunch of FOIA requests submitted, so it will be made public [11:51]
mircea_popescu fluffypony wouldn';t be the first time the usg ignores the us law. [11:51]
fluffypony that's true, but then we wait for the FOIA requests to be rejected [11:51]
mircea_popescu well ya [11:51]
pankkake what are the typical delays for this? [11:51]
fluffypony pankkake: around a month [11:52]
mircea_popescu pankkake legally required to answer within 30 days. [11:52]
pankkake wow, well. it's pretty clear it's best to wait [11:52]
mircea_popescu and to think tho, this was going to be such a sweet psych op. they had it all planned and shit. and nao... [11:52]
mircea_popescu cowering behind desks, can't even say what the grandiose auction closed for. [11:52]
fluffypony maybe they've been asked not to release the price [11:53]
fluffypony by the winner [11:53]
mircea_popescu a few moar victories like this and teh usg won't need any defeats. [11:53]
pankkake what, you think there's an organized conspiracy or something? [11:55]
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Madeline I came here to draw something on my tits from this post - http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ [11:55]
assbot I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [11:55]
mircea_popescu pankkake yes. they were going to announce it originally. but then... [11:55]
mircea_popescu Madeline link to your prev work ? [11:56]
pankkake I wasn't aware of any promise to make the price public [11:56]
Madeline http://vidble.com/album/dUG1p0JH [11:58]
assbot Vidble [11:58]
Madeline http://i.imgur.com/yaC1lNR.jpg [11:59]
mircea_popescu Madeline got anything where you're a) nude and b) it's not a grainy 320x200 px ? [11:59]
mrX_ I would be surprised if they made the price public any time soon [12:02]
mircea_popescu mrX_ whyssat ? [12:02]
mrX_ Typical government [12:02]
mrX_ Only releasing things when forced [12:03]
pankkake but that's what the FOIA requests are for right? [12:03]
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Madeline Well, I just started getting naked on the internet in the last 48 hours, sooooo... not yet! BUUUUT... I'm ready to break out the DSLR and bestow upon you the gifts of my HD nakedness. [12:05]
BigBitz Hmm. [12:06]
BigBitz when did we become -camwhores, mircea_popescu? [12:06]
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mircea_popescu Madeline aite, put 6bb91297 on your tits and shoot it then. here's your model : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744684 and mind that if you don't match her you're not getting paid. [12:07]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [12:07]
mircea_popescu BigBitz nothin' wrong with a bit o' fresh tit is there. [12:07]
BigBitz There is not..... there certainly is not. [12:08]
mrX_ I suppose. I'll give government credit if they do, but I wouldn't be surprised if they deny it as privileged financial information. [12:08]
mircea_popescu mrX_ as what ? [12:09]
pankkake Madeline: related to your previous questions about gribble, registering and completing the task will likely get you a trust rating [12:09]
punkman1 did any other girls show their face or just saffron? [12:09]
pankkake like that: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=sexy_saffron&sign=ANY&type=RECV [12:09]
assbot Rating Details for User 'sexy_saffron' [12:09]
mircea_popescu punkman1 working to improve the qualityt of camwhork [12:09]
punkman1 bunch of wannabes [12:09]
pankkake since it was posted on reddit where many don't, it's not surprising [12:10]
pankkake (and don't do that for a living either) [12:10]
mircea_popescu buncha wannabes [12:10]
mircea_popescu pankkake saffron was off reddit [12:10]
punkman1 plenty of pros on reddit I'd say [12:10]
mircea_popescu all kinds. [12:10]
mircea_popescu mixed bag of all time. [12:10]
Madeline i'll definitely register after I complete my picture challenge... this shit is really cool. [12:11]
mircea_popescu what do you do other than strippin' ? [12:12]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.0027 = 1.35 BTC [-] [12:13]
Madeline Am I really "stripping?" I feel like that technically requires a linear timelines of clothing removal while dancing... I'm just starting straight from naked. [12:14]
mircea_popescu well w/e you'd call it. [12:14]
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punkman1 coupla girls saw me reading the pay-for-your-tits post, first question "do I have to show my face or just tits?" [12:17]
mircea_popescu yes. [12:17]
BigBitz do we have tits yet? [12:17]
fluffypony BigBitz: we have bitz [12:17]
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BigBitz :) [12:17]
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Madeline Well, aside from being NAKED, I'm going to level up this cliche with COLLEGE STUDENT! Go team! [12:18]
BigBitz hmm we have a smart one then... using words like loinera and understanding them. [12:18]
BigBitz err linear. [12:18]
mircea_popescu Madeline lmao. [12:18]
mircea_popescu studying what ? [12:18]
mircea_popescu (social sciences) [12:18]
punkman1 I told them "what you wanna be like the 100 other shy reddit girls, forget it" [12:18]
BigBitz ( home ec ) [12:18]
mircea_popescu punkman1 word. [12:19]
punkman1 maybe I should recruit next time I'm at the nude beach [12:19]
BigBitz bring Tits. [12:20]
mircea_popescu punkman1 good idea. [12:20]
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BigBitz I am still seeing no tits... ping timeout... ffs. [12:24]
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mircea_popescu madeline http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#760554 [12:28]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [12:28]
madeline sorry, my internet exploded and then put itself back together... [12:29]
BigBitz So... Tits then? [12:30]
madeline tits are coming... I've been busy answering questions about my LIFE to internet strangers because i missed the school house rock episode about not doing that. [12:32]
mircea_popescu oic. [12:32]
mircea_popescu we're all internet famous here, so no strangers. [12:32]
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BigBitz I'm not famous. [12:34]
mircea_popescu well except you. [12:35]
punkman1 everyone gets a minute of fame on the internets [12:35]
punkman1 story time: I was at this remote beach camping with a dozen other people. Family shows up one morning via boat and sets up tents nearby. After a few hours Old Man approaches us and is like "hey guys can you put away all the dongs, we got kids here" while not being able to take his eyes off all the perky titties splashing in the water. [12:37]
mircea_popescu lol [12:37]
mircea_popescu sooo... "hpow about you park your kids somewhere els then" ? [12:37]
punkman1 they had unpacked two boatfuls of crap already, too much work [12:38]
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BigBitz So the way I read that is you were running around with your dong out and other guys had their dongs out. [12:39]
punkman1 sure [12:39]
punkman1 are you scared of dongs BigBitz? [12:39]
BigBitz No bro. [12:40]
mircea_popescu well he's not famous, so... [12:40]
pankkake to my French ears, your nick sounds like big ding dong [12:42]
punkman1 I just don't get this whole "my kid will be scarred for life if he lays eyes upon some genitals" [12:44]
mircea_popescu anyway, worst part of remote camping with a dozen other people [12:44]
mircea_popescu is that one of those people will be late [12:45]
mircea_popescu and everyone will have forgotten the pee tests [12:45]
mircea_popescu and hysteria. [12:45]
punkman1 lol [12:45]
BigBitz do we have tits yet? [12:45]
mircea_popescu dude what's your urgency [12:45]
BigBitz Boredom? [12:46]
BigBitz Expectance? [12:46]
mircea_popescu tits are on bitbet. [12:46]
BigBitz Trying to distract myself from my real work. [12:46]
punkman1 need tits to take mind off silk road auction bitbet [12:46]
mircea_popescu must suck not to be famous and having to work [12:46]
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moiety morning all http://vimeo.com/93400363 [13:01]
assbot Puzzles for Postmen on Vimeo [13:01]
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fluffypony moiety! you're alive! [13:08]
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moiety fluffypony: I am! I have been, i just wasnt very well so i was reading logs more. How are you? [13:09]
fluffypony I'm ok [13:09]
fluffypony how is the sex weeks flat? [13:09]
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moiety lovely! I got some plants because they were half dying and they've perked up :D how's the flash drive? do you use the keyring? [13:10]
madeline almost done [13:11]
moiety i've had a ploshay-esque face recently, had a tooth out and took a reaction. hamster-look was inescapable [13:13]
pankkake :D [13:13]
fluffypony moiety: I haven't used the key ring, but flash drive is awesome - thank you :) [13:14]
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moiety yvw fluffypony [13:25]
moiety hi Vexual [13:25]
Vexual hi [13:25]
moiety how's things? [13:25]
Vexual not too shabby [13:26]
Vexual did you set up shop? [13:27]
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Vexual !up madeline [13:31]
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madeline okay i have finished! [13:31]
madeline TITS ARE READY [13:31]
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moiety Vexual: i'm still looking at materials, had too much else on [13:32]
moiety yay good stuff madeline :] [13:32]
madeline sooo... what do I do next [13:33]
madeline is there a countdown... a parade... [13:34]
fluffypony you upload it and post the link here [13:34]
madeline but i wanted a parade first [13:34]
moiety o rest assured we're parading [13:35]
cazalla looks like i put mario kart down at the right time [13:35]
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madeline http://vidble.com/oGYGiuvbKu.jpg [13:35]
mircea_popescu lol nuts. [13:36]
mircea_popescu madeline your bitcoin address ? [13:36]
cazalla ah fuck [13:37]
madeline 1GhyE6ec2iWzNbZrLnDCM1UJZcWZwAmMnp [13:37]
cazalla my old school teacher was on MH17 [13:37]
cazalla http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2426898/kanahooka-couple-among-those-lost-on-mh17-flight/?cs=298 [13:37]
assbot Kanahooka couple among those lost on MH17 flight | Illawarra Mercury [13:37]
mircea_popescu enjoy. [13:37]
madeline thanks dad [13:38]
BigBitz damn, cazalla :( [13:38]
cazalla yeah : I had him in primary school, like year 4 or 5 [13:39]
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BigBitz Awful news. :( [13:39]
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moiety sorry to hear cazalla, it's really tragic [13:39]
cazalla ah i don't really care [13:39]
moiety i didn't know anyone on the flight and i kinda do [13:39]
BigBitz why 6bb9 1297 or whatever? [13:39]
pankkake BigBitz: this was answered before, but maybe you can guess [13:40]
pankkake tip: it might depend on your IRC client settings [13:40]
BigBitz Hmm. [13:40]
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BigBitz No idea, pankkake. [13:41]
pankkake it's the random id assigned by webchat, you see it in the join line for example [13:43]
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madeline can i ask a question, or do I have to leave now that i've given up the goods? [13:44]
cazalla stay [13:44]
fluffypony you don't have to ask to ask, just ask :) [13:45]
chetty make an account, hang around :) [13:45]
Vexual hey she asked [13:45]
pankkake you're more than welcome to stay - and register [13:46]
madeline well, it's more than one question actually... how did you all find each other? do you any of you each other in real life? what is the purpose of this particular chat group? how many people are pantsless, but still wearing socks right now? [13:49]
chetty lo, nice questions [13:50]
madeline *do any of you know each other in real life? [13:51]
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pankkake some do [13:51]
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madeline i ez rel gooodz at zee tiepeen [13:51]
pankkake I'm at work and fully clothed, thank god for the air conditioning though [13:52]
fluffypony I've gotten semi-sober with xmj at the Depeche Mode bar in Tallinn, Estonia [13:53]
dub pants and two pair socks here [13:53]
Vexual shit it's hotter there than here pankakke [13:53]
dub fucking 3c outside [13:53]
pankkake http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/05/02/yo-bitcoin-assets-i-put-contrarianism-in-your-contrarianism/ [13:53]
assbot Yo #bitcoin-assets, I put contrarianism in your contrarianism | pankkake [13:53]
chetty many of the people here have met at various conf. [13:54]
madeline pankkake: what area of the planet are in the vicinity of? [13:54]
madeline because it's the middle of the night where i am... so i assume you're at least half a planet away [13:55]
pankkake I'm in France [13:55]
pankkake unrelated: https://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001512.html [13:55]
assbot Financial Cryptography: Casebook for a disaster: google's BebaPay and why it is wrong, wrong, wrong [13:55]
Vexual where are you from madeline? [13:56]
mircea_popescu madeline http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/ start there [13:57]
assbot The stuff all good conspiracy theories start with pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [13:58]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/JiAzPyb.gif - how to park [13:58]
mircea_popescu lol fluffypony [13:59]
madeline california [14:00]
Vexual i was guessing hawaii, but i guess im just being pedantic [14:01]
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chetty !up madeline [14:02]
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madeline i wish i was in Hawaii [14:04]
moiety https://soundcloud.com/ryan-block-10/comcastic-service [14:07]
assbot Comcastic service disconnection by ryan.block on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds [14:07]
madeline so most of you work on bitcoin related endeavors? [14:13]
mircea_popescu an' that's all for me. laters. [14:13]
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pankkake !b 2 [18:27]
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Vexual good bash sir [18:27]
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mircea_popescu ok so re mpex : the best news, really. the whole shebang is deployed and actually works, as best as anyone can determine. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases which i expect to pass 100%. bar some improbable unforeseenness, mpex should be back this weekend. [18:29]
pankkake so you said twice it would take a week, instead of saying it would take two weeks. smart [18:30]
pankkake (actually not really how it happened, but I tried) [18:30]
mircea_popescu i k r ? [18:31]
mircea_popescu anyway, the gpg blob from the engineer in charge was so long this morning i thought at first he's gonna kill himself and is sending me his life story. [18:32]
FabianB $proxies ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend." [18:34]
empyex FabianB: Temporarily saved. [18:34]
empyex FabianB: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) [18:34]
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thickasthieves is it weird to have no website at all when exchange is down? [18:37]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves like trilema ? [18:38]
mircea_popescu FabianB o hey nice [18:38]
thickasthieves mpex.co hasnt loaded for a while now [18:38]
mircea_popescu $proxies ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." [18:38]
empyex mircea_popescu: Temporarily saved. [18:38]
empyex mircea_popescu: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) [18:38]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves it wasn't really ever intended to do much as "the website" [18:39]
thickasthieves but there's other info there that is useful [18:39]
Vexual perhaps mpes is getting alibaba [18:40]
thickasthieves FAQ, last price, contact, pricing, etc [18:40]
thickasthieves http://web.archive.org/web/20140708024022/http://mpex.co/ [18:41]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. [18:41]
Vexual smpoe auddenlt buys 10 everything [18:41]
mircea_popescu Vexual including urmom ? [18:42]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves well yeah. [18:42]
Vexual alibaba is some billions [18:42]
thickasthieves i guess i'm just saying it's maybe a lil ghetto to have no website for days [18:44]
Vexual ghettos the formulae [18:45]
mircea_popescu dub: he writes like an entitled teenager. feels like im reading an episode of scooby doo << yeah well. it's hard dood. [18:45]
thickasthieves but i also used to sell brochures and websites for a living, sooooo.... [18:45]
mircea_popescu i'm not sure ghetto is the word. [18:46]
mircea_popescu anticonsumer fo sho. [18:46]
thickasthieves unprofessional [18:46]
Vexual yeah thats kinda oppositely [18:46]
mircea_popescu only if your profession is seo expert. [18:46]
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thickasthieves google delisted you [18:48]
Vexual fee going up? [18:48]
thickasthieves ;;google mpex [18:48]
gribble Midwest Photo Exchange Home page: ; Midwest Photo Exchange MPEX Learning Studio: ; MPEx - Bitcoin: [18:48]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves yeah dude, google is like, important. everywhere. [18:48]
thickasthieves well... [18:49]
mircea_popescu i'm sitting here building a system that exists to beat into submission the us congress and it all depends on whether google delists me or not. [18:49]
mircea_popescu twitter is a major blow. that sorta thing. [18:49]
mircea_popescu this make any fucking sense to you ? [18:49]
thickasthieves hey you can take it to extremes to bat it away if you like [18:49]
thickasthieves just syain [18:50]
mircea_popescu point is, if mpex isn';t fine outside of everything that currently exists on the web, mpex isn't fine [18:50]
mircea_popescu because google is going a-fucking-way. [18:50]
mircea_popescu itcant be a dependency [18:50]
thickasthieves maybe you should block google spiders [18:51]
thickasthieves let's all do it [18:51]
thickasthieves this wil help the cause [18:51]
Vexual ;;google 0-0 [18:52]
gribble Dividing by Zero - Math is Fun: ; Math Forum: Ask Dr. Math FAQ: Zero to Zero Power: ; Zero to the Zero Power -- Math Fun Facts: [18:52]
Vexual google dont know shit [18:53]
mircea_popescu maybe just not care you know ? [18:53]
Vexual ;;google regex [18:53]
gribble Regular expression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Regular-Expressions.info - Regex Tutorial, Examples and ...: ; RegExr: Learn, Build, & Test RegEx: [18:54]
mircea_popescu is it ghetto and unprofessional to not care what the feminists have to say ? [18:54]
mircea_popescu because i suspect maybe this conceptual harness works more like a control tool directed towards the user [18:55]
mircea_popescu than what language is fucking intended to be (a control tool directed towards the environment) [18:55]
thickasthieves well i agree with you in that too much weight is being attributed to this concern [18:56]
thickasthieves i just disagree that it's all or nothing [18:56]
thickasthieves shit man, it's ok to have your website up when your exchange is down [18:56]
thickasthieves all i'm sayin [18:56]
mircea_popescu lol [18:56]
thickasthieves people may even prfer it [18:56]
mircea_popescu trilema should be good enuf [18:57]
thickasthieves well everything should be the way that disrupts mp the least [18:57]
mircea_popescu ^ [18:58]
mircea_popescu pankkake: if taxes were simple, people would realize how much they pay << this lol. [18:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.78950352 BTC to 12`338 shares, 14504 satoshi per share [18:59]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#760791 << the funny thing there, of course, is that "organised crime" simply means "any power structure that's not us". [19:00]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [19:00]
mircea_popescu seems quite... organised crime-y to me. [19:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 25.29973600 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2200 satoshi per share [19:01]
thickasthieves hypocrisy as an indicator for a dying system [19:02]
mircea_popescu assbot: New virtual currency INNCoin is backed by gold and ready to take down bitcoin <<< one a fucking week by now ? [19:02]
Vexual prta ghash luck? [19:02]
mthreat "organized crime" isn't usually very organized [19:02]
mircea_popescu mthreat actually organised crime isn't usually very well documented. [19:03]
thickasthieves just like how fiat arguments against bitcoin taste hypocrtical on examination [19:03]
mircea_popescu chetty: desperate for news? << no, desperate for "alternatives". and they'd better fucking find some, because I will fuck up with their careers. [19:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 5.84550366 BTC to 29`438 shares, 19857 satoshi per share [19:05]
thickasthieves http://coinfire.cf/2014/07/18/breaking-dell-now-accepts-bitcoin/ [19:05]
assbot Breaking: Dell Now Accepts Bitcoin - Coin Fire [19:05]
chetty https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs1l4r0IcAArmGj.jpg [19:06]
thickasthieves this coinfire guy is getting teh scoppz [19:06]
thickasthieves scoopz [19:06]
mircea_popescu ask him over ? [19:06]
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thickasthieves https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/490166181157154816 [19:09]
mircea_popescu nice. [19:09]
mircea_popescu mebbe webirc link too ? [19:09]
thickasthieves it sounds official cuz i said official [19:09]
mircea_popescu you know how to work the ropes! [19:09]
thickasthieves k i left link in his blog [19:11]
mircea_popescu sweet. [19:12]
thickasthieves love how all the dying internet boom businesses are embracing bitcoin [19:12]
thickasthieves who the fuck buys dell [19:12]
mircea_popescu actually i dont think i ever bought a diff rackable server. [19:13]
thickasthieves ah so that's their niche? [19:13]
mircea_popescu pretty much yes [19:13]
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pankkake google is very fast to update websites, it will also come back fast [19:16]
pankkake quick* [19:16]
pankkake I really can't write lately [19:16]
mthreat not sure i'd call it a niche [19:20]
Vexual ptoly tagged experimental [19:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 310 @ 0.00272 = 0.8432 BTC [-] {2} [19:22]
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pankkake wow, maybe I'll buy a Dell U3011 after all :) [19:23]
pankkake unless it's US only [19:23]
Vexual dropbox [19:23]
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Vexual yjeure cheaap [19:24]
Vexual *theey're cheap [19:24]
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pankkake http://www.movetoaustin.io/ [19:29]
assbot MovetoAustin [19:29]
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pankkake #13 pic of only girls. eheh [19:29]
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BigBitz Austin or NYC. That's not a hard toss up. [19:31]
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thickasthieves dell also offering alienware discounts for btc [19:34]
* asciilifeform waits for shortwave-mpex [19:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform sadly it seems mpex is one of those things still requiring a fortress. [19:36]
thickasthieves lol the WSJ writer wrote back to me "thanks for your thoughts" [19:36]
thickasthieves that's irt [19:36]
thickasthieves it [19:36]
asciilifeform let's fortress with antennae? [19:36]
thickasthieves lowercase n all [19:36]
fluffypony thickasthieves: it's because you changed your nick to all lower-case [19:37]
fluffypony poetic justice. [19:37]
pankkake mpex need a trade fortress? [19:37]
thickasthieves you are what you eat [19:37]
fluffypony hah hah [19:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 188 @ 0.00272998 = 0.5132 BTC [-] [19:40]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves he's being pro. [19:41]
thickasthieves Coinfire accepted invite [19:42]
thickasthieves "I'm in." [19:42]
fluffypony !up CoinFire [19:42]
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thickasthieves g'day Coinfire [19:42]
CoinFire Thanks fluffypony Was working on the WoT stuff but likely going to have to finish it a bit later ;) [19:42]
CoinFire Howdy thickasthieves [19:42]
thickasthieves you seem to be on top of things, been reading since the SR auction [19:43]
CoinFire Fighting with my MBP at the moment which is refusing to charge LOL. [19:43]
pankkake replace the battery! oh, wait :p [19:43]
CoinFire Thanks! Certainly trying to be on top of everything at all times, lots of Google alerts, etc etc [19:43]
CoinFire LOL Exactly pankkake - Thankfully it is under warranty for a little while longer. [19:44]
thickasthieves i liked the coinjelly stuff, i noticed they wanted to talk privately, did anything come of that? [19:44]
thickasthieves (i still think your blog needs a new body font btw) [19:45]
CoinFire They've sent me some stuff and I've been waiting further confirmation from the insurance company. We will see how it plays out and if I learn more I will most certainly be updating things and posting a new entry for everyone :) [19:45]
thickasthieves cool [19:45]
CoinFire I'll agree thickasthieves on the font statement. I am likely going to try and get that changed this week. Another thing on the list of things lol. I find it hard to read on my iPad so it has to change :) [19:46]
CoinFire Any fonts you would rather see? [19:46]
fluffypony Comic Sans [19:46]
thickasthieves yeah it's just too thin, well for google fonts, i recall Cabin being a good one [19:46]
CoinFire LOL fluffypony the doge community would enjoy that. [19:47]
thickasthieves eh maybe not [19:47]
thickasthieves Cabin maybe a lil better for print [19:47]
fluffypony Papyrus, then? [19:47]
pankkake "Raleway"? I don't have it, so that's why the website looks nice to me [19:47]
thickasthieves kina warbly on screen [19:47]
thickasthieves raleway is one of those graphic designer trendy fonts from a couple years ago [19:48]
CoinFire Do people still even use Papyrus? That was something I asked myself recently then I saw a hair salon had it as a giant window sticker and was just like UGH [19:48]
fluffypony hah hah [19:48]
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fluffypony the only font worse than Comic Sans and Papyrus is...Curlz [19:48]
CoinFire Then literally two days later, a church. I just head to shake my head. [19:48]
fluffypony that font needs to be stabbed in the face [19:48]
* CoinFire agrees [19:48]
mircea_popescu hey there CoinFire [19:48]
pankkake actually I'm wrong, I have it through google fonts I guess. and yeah, disabling it it's much better, it's too thin [19:48]
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chetty whatever happened to just over ride the site css with your own font? [19:49]
pankkake I'm a fan of just using the default browser font (just use "sans-serif"). assuming most platforms have one that is not ugly. [19:49]
thickasthieves Papyrus is Comic Sans for Yoga and Health places [19:49]
fluffypony chetty: Google Web Fonts, I'm a big fan [19:49]
CoinFire Howdy mircea_popescu [19:49]
mircea_popescu people saying you're like on top of the scoops. [19:50]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#760974 like. [19:50]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [19:50]
CoinFire LOL That is awesome. Certainly trying to be all over them. Granted that involves virtually no sleeping ever. [19:51]
fluffypony you should hire a leggy blonde assistant [19:52]
thickasthieves CoinFire we have a blog feed at http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/ if you wanna learn more about us, more resources are at bitcoin-assets.com, including logs, bash, wiki [19:52]
assbot Assets Assimilated [19:52]
CoinFire Checking it out thickasthieves! [19:52]
CoinFire I totally should fluffypony ;) [19:52]
thickasthieves it's a lot to read, but we generally take pride in not being reddites and slaying derpitude [19:52]
CoinFire I'll take it!! [19:53]
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CoinFire I will be sure to get my keys and everything worked out this week as well :) Been working on a lot of stuff. It seems it never ends. [19:54]
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chetty if it ends we will all be bored [19:55]
thickasthieves cool cool [19:55]
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CoinFire HAHAHAHA So true chetty. So very true. [19:56]
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kakobrekla at some point ill +m the chan so we can all take a break. [19:59]
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fluffypony it is +m already...? [20:00]
kakobrekla sahtup you are ruining the joke. [20:00]
mircea_popescu no vitramins in your cereal huh [20:00]
fluffypony lol [20:00]
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mircea_popescu !up just_mike [20:00]
-assbot- You voiced just_mike for 30 minutes. [20:00]
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mircea_popescu o look, mike_c bought the just dice brand and merged. [20:00]
kakobrekla provably fail microphone? [20:01]
kakobrekla eh [20:01]
kakobrekla fair [20:01]
mircea_popescu /nick just_in_bieber [20:01]
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kakobrekla justin_time and justin_case [20:01]
mircea_popescu sir Case the Just [20:01]
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thickasthieves cumin_side [20:02]
kakobrekla i guess if i make my surname justin, then i can have case and time for kids. [20:02]
mircea_popescu indian cooking pronz. "oya baby, put it on the cumin side." [20:02]
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asciilifeform 'just_mice' << hypothetical future electric rodent shop [20:03]
thickasthieves just_ice [20:03]
mircea_popescu s/pronz/prawns [20:03]
kakobrekla and we are back to reddit lvl. [20:03]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: you can't do that unless you're also begging for a flight [20:03]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla no we're not. reddit doesn't do wordplay. [20:03]
mircea_popescu it does wordcancer. [20:04]
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kakobrekla heh [20:04]
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thickasthieves reminds me of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2013#322499 [20:05]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [20:05]
thickasthieves i wonder if any of our fake name businesses became real ones since [20:05]
thickasthieves yep [20:05]
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asciilifeform '“Just name a disease,” he says, “and we have a cure ready for it.” ... The pills for AIDS look just like the pills for cancer look just like the pills for diabetes. I ask, So these things really aren’t invented? ... “Of course they’re real,” he says and plucks the first two bottles out of my hands. “They’re copyrighted. We have an inventory of almost fifteen thousand copyrighted names for pr [20:07]
asciilifeform oducts that are still in development,” he says. “And that includes you.” ... “We’re a total concept marketing slash public relations organization,” he says. “Our job is to create the concept. You patent a drug. You copyright the name. As soon as someone else develops the product they come to us, sometimes by choice, sometimes not.”' [20:07]
thickasthieves cointroduction really is a good for a dating site [20:08]
asciilifeform 'I ask him, Why sometimes not? “The way this works is we copyright every conceivable combination of words, Greek words, Latin, English, what-have-you. We get the legal rights to every conceivable word a pharmaceutical company might use to name a new product. For diabetes alone, we have an inventory of one hundred forty names,” he says. He hands me stapled-together pages from out of his briefcase in his lap. [20:08]
asciilifeform GlucoCure, I read. InsulinEase. PancreAid. Hemazine. Glucodan. Growdenase.' [20:08]
asciilifeform (palahniuk's 'survivor'. http://www.altbook.ru/index.php/site/en_survivor_full/681) [20:08]
assbot - Survivor - Chuck Palahniuk. Read, download books - alternative book. [20:08]
thickasthieves ive read a few of Chuck's [20:09]
thickasthieves i liked Haunted most i think [20:09]
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mircea_popescu thickasthieves no wai. cointroduction ?! [20:11]
mircea_popescu do they offer on-site cointraception ? [20:11]
thickasthieves well i didnt know it was actually a word [20:11]
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CoinFire LOL [20:11]
thickasthieves and the word works [20:11]
thickasthieves ;;ud cointroduction [20:11]
gribble Google found nothing. [20:11]
mircea_popescu it's horrible srsly. [20:11]
thickasthieves "simultaneous introduction of two or more agents or species" [20:12]
mircea_popescu about on par with toyota naming their prius replacement Toyota Pizda. [20:12]
mthreat cuntroduction [20:12]
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thickasthieves !up Coinfire [20:13]
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mircea_popescu mthreat cunt reduction ? [20:13]
mthreat it's a thing! [20:13]
mircea_popescu site sells alum powder [20:13]
mircea_popescu for you know... down there. [20:13]
asciilifeform now the interesting part. as i recall, the company in palahniuk's comedy actually exists... [20:13]
CoinFire Thanks ;) [20:14]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform kinda poorly researched tho you know ? the 5mn domain names that were finally abandoned recently were a failed exercise in exactly this [20:14]
mircea_popescu 140 won't cut it. they need like 8bn names for diabethes. [20:14]
mircea_popescu "The sporting press is awash in liberal themes these days: the "underrepresentation" of African-American head coaches in professional football (nobody seems to object to the astounding overrepresentation of African-American players); the terrible injustice of private golf clubs refusing to accept women as members (funny, it's not a problem if Lady Victory Fitness Centers exclude men); and of course the whole business o [20:15]
mircea_popescu f women's sports, the greatest affirmative action program in existence (a woman can win a gold medal at the Olympics despite a performance that might not even qualify her for the men's event---but despite her inferior performance she wins the same medal as the men's winner)." [20:15]
asciilifeform if i remember, these folks don't go the pure squatter route, but actually make contact with megacorps and their lead marketing monkeys [20:15]
mircea_popescu what is this guy, nuts ? who and why would want to see mixed gender sprint. [20:15]
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thickasthieves itd be cool if it were competitive [20:16]
mircea_popescu there are very few fields where women / men competition doesn't look like a squirrel trying to fight a raccoon. [20:17]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: mocsny wasn't pushing for mixed footraces, so much as torturing some bozo who was obsessed with the 'injustice of exclusion' [20:17]
mircea_popescu those usually look like a raccoon trying to fight a truck. [20:17]
asciilifeform lol [20:18]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, he did have some issues this guy. http://pastebin.com/X7WtwLXV [20:18]
assbot Women from all races want to bang rich, successful guys. I find it merely curiou - Pastebin.com [20:18]
mircea_popescu consider, "sex robots so poor guys can have the same shit as rich guys" ?! [20:18]
mircea_popescu wtf is this, derplandia ? [20:18]
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chetty munchcins vs the harlem globe trotters basketball anyone? [20:18]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as i understand, he was discussing why the robots are inevitable from a market standpoint (there are quite a few paupers, and they all want wheels. so we get trambourghini.) [20:20]
CoinFire BBL Going to work on a few different things, I'll try and drop in often :) [20:23]
CoinFire Thanks for the invite! :) [20:23]
thickasthieves thanks for coming by [20:23]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform i don't see that as an argument at all. just... you know, drool. [20:25]
asciilifeform drool, unfortunately, is the correct explanation for a number of things. [20:26]
mircea_popescu if sex robots were widely available today, i'd prolly still not use them. (for that matter, indiancandy is a sex robot, not terribly expensive - a good server costs more than what she would) [20:26]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you're not in the market for a trambourghini, either, as i understand. [20:27]
mircea_popescu for very similar reasons. [20:27]
mircea_popescu in short, it's not just the poor man's idea of what being rich is like that's wrong. [20:27]
mircea_popescu his idea of how to get there is similarly borkted. [20:27]
asciilifeform and yet trambos happen. [20:28]
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mircea_popescu "By the first time I had "sex" (depending on how you define it, since I took things in stages) I had already endured years of frustration and humiliation of an intensity that I don't think I can properly put into words." a ok. [20:28]
asciilifeform the poor man's idea of 'rich', combined with industry, is how we get trambo. [20:28]
chetty http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-potential-upend-legacy-payments-system-2014-7 [20:28]
assbot Bitcoin Potential Upend Legacy Payments System - Business Insider [20:28]
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chetty in short, it's not just the poor man's idea of what being rich is like that's wrong.//a lot of rich dont seem to have much of a clue either [20:29]
mircea_popescu chetty kinda what makes it so difficult. [20:30]
mircea_popescu "I don't think an average man can pursue women effectively if he is primarily thinking about how good sex will feel when he gets it. That just isn't the right mindset when a man has to chat up dozens of women before he finds one with whom sex is a reasonable possibility." holy shit, with what woman is sex not a reasonable possibility ?! [20:30]
mircea_popescu ok enough of this guy, dear lord. [20:30]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'a chicken also wants to live' [20:31]
mircea_popescu this ain't living. [20:31]
thickasthieves "when a man has to chat up dozens of women" [20:31]
mircea_popescu ikr?! [20:31]
thickasthieves gj [20:31]
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mircea_popescu there's nothing more pernicious to the mind than its ability to construct self coherent if spectacularly wrong representations. [20:32]
asciilifeform let them eat cake? [20:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i tell ye, if i perceived i HAD TO chat up women i'd be a fucking homicidal maniac, notwithstanding amazing success rates. even if i never left my own harem and so my success rate was forever 100%. [20:33]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [20:33]
mircea_popescu why not just relax and enjoy the fact that you CAN chat up women. [20:33]
mircea_popescu or for that matter, trees. [20:33]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's almost like you read a guide to survival in the arctic, and said 'wtf is this nonsense, just take compass and march south' [20:33]
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asciilifeform the notion that every male of the species can turn into mircea_popescu by effort of will is, at the very least, misguided. i catch quite a bit of crap for insisting that virtually everyone can, e.g., learn mathematics - so i sympathize. but it's still mistake. [20:36]
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chetty asciilifeform, +1 [20:41]
thickasthieves http://www.dell.com/bitcoin [20:46]
assbot Dell now accepts bitcoin | Dell [20:46]
thickasthieves "What is Coinbase? Coinbase is the world's largest platform for buying and selling bitcoins for US dollars at the current market rate." [20:46]
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thickasthieves it's like the only biz that fits that description, no? [20:46]
los_pantalones what is the current market rate? [20:47]
thickasthieves whatever they it is [20:47]
thickasthieves say [20:47]
los_pantalones so there are many [20:47]
los_pantalones that match that description [20:47]
thickasthieves platforms? [20:47]
los_pantalones yes [20:47]
thickasthieves word [20:48]
thickasthieves i thought the rest were real exchanges [20:48]
asciilifeform 'Do you also lecture people with Down's Syndrome on how they could learn to write 10,000 line Perl scripts if they just take it one step at a time? For some things there seems to be some minimum takeoff velocity.' [20:48]
asciilifeform (https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=soc.men/UnmiJcstddY/lQGxvNGTKBkJ) [20:48]
thickasthieves how is coinbase claiming they are largest then? [20:48]
los_pantalones thickasthieves we have a private one to our customers [20:48]
los_pantalones i suspect we are far from alone [20:49]
los_pantalones that is just their claim [20:49]
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los_pantalones you are also thinking of the word "platform" too narrowly [20:49]
los_pantalones #bitcoin-otc would count [20:49]
los_pantalones lots of transactions take place OTC on skype [20:50]
los_pantalones these count [20:50]
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mike_c anybody can write a 10,000 line perl script. it's making it a 100 line script that's hard. [20:52]
chetty http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-07-17/fedex-indicted-for-distributing-controlled-drugs-online [20:53]
assbot FedEx Indicted for Shipping Drugs for Online Pharmacies - Businessweek [20:53]
asciilifeform mike_c: i vaguely recall some joker who wrote a complete 386 pc emulator in about 1k of perl. that's the kind of thing being spoken of, i think. [20:53]
asciilifeform chetty: RIP 'common carrier doctrine' [20:54]
asciilifeform it was a nice 100 years. [20:54]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i think there's a space between arguing that nobody should bang head against wall and arguing everyone should be god. [20:54]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: unless i misunderstand, you're trying to say to a fellow in padded cell, 'stop banging head.' generally good advice - except that sex drive doesn't ship with an 'off' switch. [20:55]
mircea_popescu los_pantalones there's this derpitude tradition where noobs claim firstbiggest first to be one day biggest. [20:55]
mircea_popescu it's roughly the equivalent of "callin it" [20:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it also doesn't ship with any particular rule as to how it is to be employed or manifested. [20:56]
mircea_popescu which is really where the problem starts. overactive sex drive makes kids misrepresent the facts of the matter : it's true that women make for convenient release, but it's not true that's what women ARE. [20:58]
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mircea_popescu as the weirdo ages and frustration builds, this distinction becomes less readily accessible. nevertheless... [20:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: women also aren't food - but the proverbial airplane crash castaway might beg to differ. [20:59]
mircea_popescu i know a few women i'm kinda tempted to eat with some regularity. [20:59]
asciilifeform lol [20:59]
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mircea_popescu no actual cannibalism so far tho [20:59]
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mircea_popescu but yes, i daresay that i'd still chat up women in the andes. wtf do i care about survival anyway. [21:00]
mircea_popescu a life unpleasant is not worth surviving. [21:00]
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asciilifeform chetty: if fedex could leave usa to the mice and roaches, now would probably be the time. but don't hold your breath waiting for this. [21:01]
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chetty asciilifeform, there is something in the usa other than mice and roaches? [21:03]
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thickasthieves http://www.pfhub.com/russia-makes-32-billion-dollars-of-cubas-outstanding-debt-disappear-953/ [21:16]
assbot Russia makes $32 billion dollars of Cubas outstanding debt disappear [21:16]
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chetty http://banksworstfear.com/bitcoin-remittances-effect-now/ [21:17]
assbot Bitcoin Remittances are In Effect Now | Banks Worst Fear [21:17]
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penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/dell-com-accepting-bitcoin-offering-10-discount-alienware/ [21:21]
thickasthieves i should do $500/seat L2Bitcoin seminars for the local mexicans and guatemalans [21:25]
thickasthieves (re chetty's link) [21:25]
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danielpbarron "If you would like to purchase XCP for Bitcoins, we advise that you use a centralized exchange for the time being. We are in the process of developing features that will make the purchase of XCP on Counterwallet very simple, and expect these to be working soon. Thanks for your patience." via http://counterwallet.co/ #AmazingCompany [21:29]
assbot Counterwallet [21:29]
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bitcoinpete ;;nethash [21:37]
gribble 139988399.294 [21:37]
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asciilifeform http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1202453/human-random-number-generation << this topic will never really die, will it. [22:04]
assbot Human random number generation | Ludology | BoardGameGeek [22:04]
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bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: hey everyone that is awake : please put in a list of five words that you'd estimate are the key terms for [your interest of] b-a << history, finance, philosophy, digital security, bitcoin [22:09]
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mircea_popescu thickasthieves not entirely a bad idea. [22:17]
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fluffypony five words: general management, cryptography, finance, cryptocurrencies, risk management [22:21]
fluffypony two of those are phrases, meh [22:21]
asciilifeform mathematics, systemantics, chumpatronics, polemology, psychoceramics. [22:26]
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mthreat teledildonics [22:30]
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kakobrekla i just like the pics. [22:33]
kakobrekla 5 words. [22:33]
mthreat how about a haiku for #b-a [22:34]
princessnell http://www.cnbc.com/id/101849169 [22:35]
assbot Time for digital currencies to grow upbitcoinommentary [22:35]
princessnell "As the creator of a digital currency, I..." [22:35]
asciilifeform mthreat: haiku << 'If only we might fall / Like cherry blossoms in the spring / So pure and radiant !' [22:37]
* asciilifeform associates haiku solely with kamikaze send-off ceremony [22:37]
fluffypony oh no princessnell [22:37]
fluffypony that guy [22:37]
fluffypony is such an utter fucktard [22:37]
fluffypony with his NautilusCoin bullshit [22:38]
asciilifeform 'Since my body is a shell / I am going to take it off / and put on a glory that will never wear out.' (one mr. kenzo ishijima) [22:38]
* asciilifeform invites anyone who knows some other kind of haiku to substitute that. [22:39]
fluffypony and don't get me started on Dirac [22:39]
fluffypony http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/nautiluscoin-future-of-cryptocurrency/ [22:39]
assbot How NautilusCoin could change the digital currency marketforever [22:39]
fluffypony that's David Seaman doing the pump [22:39]
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fluffypony then the market is like "lol wtf is this shit" [22:40]
fluffypony https://medium.com/@d_seaman/nautiluscoin-and-dirac-misunderstood-df353a9b6296 [22:40]
assbot NautilusCoin and Dirac, misunderstood Medium [22:40]
fluffypony this is my favourite quote: [22:40]
fluffypony "I think money is exactly the same. I don’t think consumers will care much for the community their coin has; they will care about the algorithm. Or, more accurately, they will care about how the coin performs (mining cost, speed, security) because of that algorithm." [22:40]
bitcoinpete fluffypony: or "I’m not “hyping” these coins. These are advancements in cryptocurrency that not many people have noticed yet." [22:42]
fluffypony heh heh [22:43]
thickasthieves <+princessnell> "As the creator of a digital currency, I..." /// wtf is this, major media shilling alts day? [22:44]
fluffypony thickasthieves: Brian Kelly is a fucktard [22:44]
fluffypony he's a CNBC "contributor" (read: blogger) [22:44]
fluffypony and he "created" NautilusCoin (read: someone else did the work) [22:45]
thickasthieves <+fluffypony> "I think money is exactly ... lulz abound [22:45]
fluffypony and it has a fat premine for a "stabilisation fund" [22:45]
princessnell o endogeneity. hookers/porn/sexbots lower cost for men of lacking power. good for high power males, high time preference women. negative externality for most others. increases pressure for neotenized males, masculinized females. [22:46]
thickasthieves princessnell system dump, reboot [22:48]
thickasthieves hehe [22:48]
princessnell thickasthieves and so it goes [22:48]
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thickasthieves and goes and goes http://www.coindesk.com/secondmarket-bitcoin-professional-womens-network/ [22:51]
assbot SecondMarket Hosts Bitcoin Talk for Professional Women's Network [22:51]
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pankkake a fiat currency will disappear in 27 years on average. So, if you live outside the US […] the currency you use in your daily life will likely go away in 27 years [22:53]
pankkake lol, statistics [22:53]
mike_c median, mean, whatever. [22:54]
thickasthieves ;;estimate [22:54]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 18802851546.1 based on data since last change | 19651756602.8 based on data for last three days [22:54]
asciilifeform pankkake: 'the average number of cocks is one half' [22:55]
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mircea_popescu princessnell: As the creator of a digital currency, I..." << derp's never ending quest for relevancy. [23:11]
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mircea_popescu one'd hope teh us propaganda drive to support their braindamage will collect better heads than the twinkletoss twins and nautilus coin guy. [23:12]
mircea_popescu i get more for .1 a tit for crying out loud. wasn't the usg supposed to be like rich and powerful and whatnot ? [23:13]
mircea_popescu "But what made Google successful as the world’s preferred search engine was not great “community” or shibe memes or aggressive marketing on Twitter." << orly. [23:14]
mircea_popescu "as a creator of a google, I know what made google successful!" [23:14]
princessnell the pipers only have to be as good as the mice they're leading [23:14]
mircea_popescu princessnell: o endogeneity. hookers/porn/sexbots lower cost for men of lacking power. good for high power males, high time preference women. negative externality for most others. increases pressure for neotenized males, masculinized females. <<< precisely. [23:15]
mircea_popescu you sound like you went to school for this or something. [23:15]
princessnell nah, i just read a lot [23:15]
mircea_popescu and no re the pipers. [23:15]
princessnell well, i'm going to school for econ, which has applicable tools [23:15]
mircea_popescu in general you can evaluate who's going to win a battle just by looking at piperquality. [23:15]
mircea_popescu they who have the rubens and van dykes win. [23:16]
princessnell i think that's right [23:16]
mircea_popescu black victory was predictable just looking at greenwich village cca 1960. [23:16]
mircea_popescu nautilus coin guy needs to learn to play an instrument. [23:17]
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princessnell ya well, in the us instruments are relative, maaan [23:17]
princessnell too many people have been getting by on bs for so long that few know anything else [23:18]
princessnell they can't identify a maestro for a mendicant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM21gPmkDpI [23:19]
assbot Joshua Bell playing violin in DC Metro Station. Please Stop and Hear the Music!!! - YouTube [23:19]
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mircea_popescu amusingly, that's on trilema. [23:24]
mircea_popescu ;;google site:trilema.com joshua bell [23:24]
gribble No matches found. [23:24]
mircea_popescu meh, [23:24]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/in-re-philosophy-freedom-of-scientific-information/ [23:25]
mircea_popescu there [23:25]
assbot In re “Philosophy : Freedom of scientific information” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [23:25]
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chetty http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-18/holding-company-portugals-2nd-largest-bank-just-filed-bankruptcy-protection [23:26]
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princessnell that's a good one [23:29]
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mircea_popescu !s portugal [23:31]
assbot 9 results for 'portugal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=portugal [23:31]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2014#756255 yest :D [23:32]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [23:32]
mircea_popescu ;;ident mike_c [23:32]
gribble Nick 'mike_c', with hostmask 'mike_c!~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598', is identified as user 'mike_c', with GPG key id 4FBC58464F910E21, key fingerprint 9086CA4627840552468FE3D44FBC58464F910E21, and bitcoin address None [23:32]
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chetty http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/07/intellectual-and-practical-foolishness-the-precautionary-principle/ [23:48]
assbot Intellectual and Practical Foolishness: The Precautionary Principle « Roy Spencer, PhD [23:48]
asciilifeform chetty: http://yarchive.net/risks/risks_of_risks.html [23:50]
assbot Risks of RISKS (John McCarthy) [23:50]
chetty Date: 07 Sep 85, now thats cool asciilifeform tyvm [23:55]
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asciilifeform chetty: 'yarchive' is a gold mine. [23:55]
asciilifeform (before anyone asks - no, i have not the faintest idea whether norman yarvin is a relative of curtis) [23:56]
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