Forum logs for 16 Nov 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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PeterL http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2015#1324455 << My daughters both have their own sewing machines, though I admit is an uncommon asset for girls under 10 [00:50]
assbot Logged on 15-11-2015 00:31:20; mircea_popescu: in this line, there was a time in central/eastern yurp when married woman HAD to have sewing machine. [00:50]
PeterL my wife's family is big on sewing/crafting, they all use their machines regularly [00:51]
PeterL my wife and her sister do piecework baby items (bibs, ties, bows) that get sold at a "baby boutique" in Lansing where hipster moms go to spend waaay too much on their kids [00:53]
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PeterL http://www.motherandearth.com/ << this place [00:54]
assbot Mother & Earth Baby Boutique Lansing, Michigan, Eco-friendly, American ... ( http://bit.ly/1H3M5ln ) [00:54]
BingoBoingo Reddit actually tests their shady dietary supplements, commenters still in denial about being scamzored https://archive.is/ef3rD [00:57]
assbot [Review] Labmax of SSH Superdrol : Steroidsourcetalk ... ( http://bit.ly/1H3MiFn ) [00:57]
mircea_popescu sounds like a pretty sweet setup [00:57]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo is this Langosteen(tm) for maximal comedy lulz ? [00:58]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: More like a quick couple chuckles [00:59]
BingoBoingo tldr; redditors think they've been getting the hard on liver easy on boobs roid, end up with easy on liver hard on boobs one. [01:00]
BingoBoingo because they haven't been testing their product until this guy they take the wrong side effect controlling drugs, and end up getting boob gains [01:01]
mircea_popescu "I read that if it turns red quickly its dbol or has dbol in it." [01:02]
mircea_popescu mmkay. [01:02]
PeterL sounds legit [01:03]
mircea_popescu "why did you behead this man ?" "i wanted to see if it has dbol in it, your honor." [01:03]
BingoBoingo dbol is dianabol, the stuff Arnold ate like candy. drol is Superdrol which never made it as a drug because liver death, but was sold as a dietary supplement for all of 2005 [01:04]
BingoBoingo "I ran his sdrol of the first batch he came out with, and it was def sdrol. I can't say anything about the following batches however" << Because the way to identify chemicals is with one's fee-fees [01:05]
mircea_popescu aka methasteron ? [01:05]
BingoBoingo yeah [01:05]
mircea_popescu o boy. [01:05]
mircea_popescu do they take it with tylenol ? [01:06]
BingoBoingo No, they take it with bear bile [01:06]
BingoBoingo They they may do tylenol when the shin splints set in because they've put on 20 lbs [01:06]
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BingoBoingo There's this odd cognitive dissonance in internet drug users where they will make an earnest effort to derp about the medical mineutia that distinguishes very similar compounds, yet they will rarely get a $20 rapid test to make sure the compound they are about to consume is actually what they anticipate consuming [01:14]
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mircea_popescu this is a fundamental problem of the monkey brain. to quote : [01:15]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=12-11-2015#1322432 [01:15]
assbot Logged on 12-11-2015 07:33:36; mircea_popescu: "The Ceremony Administrator boots the laptop from a DVD" << example of "security". [01:15]
mircea_popescu derp spent ten pages discussing the minutia of irrelevant theatre, and then... "laptop booted from a dvd". [01:15]
mircea_popescu good thing you have a special safe for the passwords! [01:15]
BingoBoingo Seriously [01:16]
BingoBoingo Then again these are the people who if participating in drug tested sports fail the tests because they load up on exotic shit and depot injections, instead of pulling the Alex Rodriguez and using fast acting gels and troches [01:17]
BingoBoingo But then again these people don't want to be athletes, they want to be pickup trucks [01:19]
BingoBoingo related re: the future of African marriage at Mizzou https://archive.is/t0GWz [01:30]
assbot Girlfriend Looking For (Some) Virilization Sides : steroidsxx ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mh14HJ ) [01:30]
mircea_popescu that thing reads to me like a completely crazy repressed faggot pushing the poor woman into insanity. [01:32]
BingoBoingo Seriously [01:32]
BingoBoingo Pretty sure a strap on would be cheaper and penetrate more thoroughly [01:33]
BingoBoingo From the same zoo: "The title says it all. My ladyfriend wants baby but skipped a cycle on mast and eq. Does this sound right? Should she stick to test c?" << That baby is going to be born with a bigger dick than its father [01:39]
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mircea_popescu actually one of the more substantial theories as to the origin of schizophrenia is hormone storm in 2nd trimester. [01:40]
BingoBoingo Sounds about right [01:42]
mircea_popescu !s kraepelin [01:42]
assbot 0 results for 'kraepelin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kraepelin [01:42]
mircea_popescu a well. anyway, goes back a century an' half. [01:43]
BingoBoingo I don't think the anglophone world knew of hormones until the brown dog incident [01:47]
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BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3300 [02:00]
assbot JL: ‘The Yupster?’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJRgrT ) [02:00]
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mod6 asciilifeform: i updated that rotor+V script: http://dpaste.com/15RZASM.txt [02:27]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJSWBQ ) [02:27]
mod6 Seems to work. Next step will probably be to sign & host SSL/BDB/Boost - but what about buildroot & all of it's deps? those too? [02:28]
asciilifeform neato [02:33]
mod6 if we did, i guess we'd have to rewrite the build script for buildroot. [02:33]
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asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2015#1325035 << whatever happened to myostatin inhibitors ? [02:36]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:36]
assbot Logged on 16-11-2015 04:01:37; BingoBoingo: dbol is dianabol, the stuff Arnold ate like candy. drol is Superdrol which never made it as a drug because liver death, but was sold as a dietary supplement for all of 2005 [02:36]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: THey are still works in progress. There's myostatin antibodies being tested in rats that... have some serious side effects. Turns out at a certain point being "muscle obese" is not that different from being "fat obese" when it comes to cardiac outcomes [02:37]
asciilifeform https://cryptome.org/2015/11/satoshi-nakamoto-public-key.htm << l0lz [02:39]
assbot Satoshi Nakamoto Public Key ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJTxmS ) [02:39]
asciilifeform ^ anyone have signed material handy to see if this thing even matches it ? [02:39]
asciilifeform and did the schmuck really go with dsa + sha1 ??!!! [02:39]
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BingoBoingo Oh, look who got the FPH treatment while I was sleeping https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/660055 [02:43]
assbot If you turn Marc Andreessen's head upside down, it would look exactly the same | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJTLdW ) [02:43]
BingoBoingo From the comments: "We mustn't let this fat fuck fork the blockchain. Death to Bitcoin XT! Long live freedom and anonymity!" [02:44]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform any pubkeys purporting to be a satoshi key are disinfo. [03:15]
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BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/n8cR4e4.jpg [03:26]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/tracts/ [03:47]
assbot Tracts for the times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mwz54y ) [03:47]
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mircea_popescu in unrelated news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/822541000fe3371e21619182c6534cca/tumblr_n4pnx0N8jY1rj2pebo1_1280.jpg [04:13]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1lqS5Lk ) [04:13]
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mircea_popescu * ben_vulpes is still planning to scrape metals off the seafloor <<< alf thinks tmsr silicon is a huge commitment, wait until he finds out about the materially-independent ocean factories. [04:25]
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adlai ;;isup qntra.net [09:16]
gribble qntra.net is up [09:16]
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jurov yep, got SERVFAIL too [09:20]
jurov from 8.8.8.8 [09:20]
adlai ;;nethash [09:27]
gribble 527455049.152 [09:27]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 4.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin Network Hits 1 Exahash - http://bitbet.us/bet/1228/bitcoin-network-hits-1-exahash/#b4 [10:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.0005341 = 4.3796 BTC [+] [10:22]
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mircea_popescu meh. dns ftw. [11:47]
jurov maybe just namecheap is just.. that cheap [11:51]
jurov i have nameservers elsewhere (even for domains reg'd at namecheap) and never had such longstanding teething problems [11:52]
mircea_popescu while i have nfi why he gets that (it's usually a busted router), the site itself is down. [11:53]
mircea_popescu well, properly speaking takes forever, but anyway. [11:54]
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funkenstein_ oglaf blocked by amtrakconnect :D congrats [12:00]
mircea_popescu so use a proxy lol [12:00]
funkenstein_ meanwhile people-are-either-black-or-white soft porn comes through fine :) [12:01]
mircea_popescu anyway : the delegation is correct, the whole node just happens to be down. http://www.intodns.com/qntra.net [12:12]
mircea_popescu funny how you can't find people willing to pay a buck to do something, but you can find people willing to blow through thousands to try and undo something. [12:13]
mircea_popescu muy bizarre, but anyway, while attacker resources last no qntra. [12:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26268 @ 0.00053351 = 14.0142 BTC [-] {2} [12:21]
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BingoBoingo re qntra DDoS http://bbencourgr.tumblr.com/post/133298781205/diabetes-gaining [12:38]
assbot The Care and Feeding of Your Superchub — Diabetes & Gaining ... ( http://bit.ly/1H4D1g5 ) [12:38]
BingoBoingo As to guesses why DDoS https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6954 [12:40]
assbot Switch to libsecp256k1-based ECDSA validation by sipa · Pull Request #6954 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1kZymlj ) [12:40]
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BingoBoingo Or mebbe it is this http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/16/us-china-tsinghua-m-a-idUSKCN0T50DU20151116 [12:45]
assbot Exclusive: China's Tsinghua Unigroup to invest $47 billion to build chip empire [12:45]
BingoBoingo Or http://www.startribune.com/dfler-abruptly-quits-race-after-saying-isis-isn-t-necessarily-evil/349824001/ [12:45]
assbot DFLer abruptly quits race after saying 'ISIS isn't necessarily evil' - StarTribune.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1kZz8i4 ) [12:45]
BingoBoingo Or mebbe it is this http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/tax-practice/expats-worried-over-passports-being-revoked-for-tax-debts-76397-1.html [12:52]
assbot Expats Worried over Passports Being Revoked for Tax Debts | Accounting Today News ... ( http://bit.ly/1kZAeKH ) [12:52]
trinque "estimated to raise $398 million over 10 years" << lulz [12:54]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.50000000 BTC on 'No' - Cardano to Ship in 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1100/cardano-to-ship-in-2015/#b15 [13:01]
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mircea_popescu so here's an idea for a decent hacker movie [13:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00053698 = 13.1829 BTC [+] {2} [13:04]
mircea_popescu i dunno if anyone's ever seen a watermelon field, but : in the future [like, next year ?] they have this arrangement where there's central piping out in a filed, and fat people go to live in a conected bubble. think "van camping" except without the wheels. they're marketed as you know "reduce your carbon footprint and care for the environment" etc, but basically it is is a suit with lcds and a shitpipe. [13:04]
mircea_popescu so there's fields full of these assholes, and the hacker past time is to hack the control units to make them pop, ie, explode [13:04]
mircea_popescu and then go hang out in the field (which is really just like a corn field, nobody goes there) and watch them pop. [13:05]
mircea_popescu it could be called "The Watermelon Wake." or some shit. [13:05]
BingoBoingo !b 4 [13:06]
assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1Z2R3PW.txt ) [13:06]
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BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/travel/the-lowest-gas-prices-in-st-louis/html_31158c8e-69c2-11df-bb02-0017a4a78c22.html [13:29]
assbot The lowest gas prices in St. Louis : Travel ... ( http://bit.ly/1YdjDBL ) [13:29]
BingoBoingo Under $1.70/gallon in places [13:29]
BingoBoingo #rabidlivesmatter http://bigstory.ap.org/article/da24b30c112643f987f48bdc10783619/after-dogs-death-effort-ban-guns-put-pets-down [13:33]
assbot After dog's death, an effort to ban guns to put pets down ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pw8BGn ) [13:33]
mircea_popescu da fuck is wrong with ap [13:33]
mircea_popescu this is their big story ? [13:33]
BingoBoingo Seriously this is [13:34]
mircea_popescu irreelvant tardhole, wtf. [13:34]
BingoBoingo But seriously, I told you the Mizzou stuff wasn't going to be news this week. [13:35]
BingoBoingo Instead it is violent lower animal put down, outrage ensues per AP [13:37]
mircea_popescu in better news than anything the associated press got today, white sluts can't dance. http://41.media.tumblr.com/374f7112ee5884a712db2cdc5c1fed13/tumblr_myucpcDqof1t158uso1_1280.jpg [13:39]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1YdkOB8 ) [13:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00053802 = 5.3802 BTC [+] {4} [13:40]
BingoBoingo http://gomerblog.com/2015/11/study-shows-direct-relationship-between-teddy-bear-size-and-dilaudid-dose/ [13:44]
assbot Study Shows Direct Relationship Between Teddy Bear Size and Dilaudid Dose | GomerBlog ... ( http://bit.ly/1YdlwhM ) [13:44]
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BingoBoingo “A teddy bear that is one foot tall correlates exactly with a Dilaudid demand of 1 mg IV every 4 hours as needed irrespective of whether the bear is naked or wearing a matching outfit,” [13:46]
mircea_popescu lol gomer [13:47]
BingoBoingo http://gomerblog.com/2015/11/head-lice/ [13:47]
assbot Anti-vax, non-GMO, organic, gluten-free mother wants “strongest possible s**t” to rid her child of head lice | GomerBlog ... ( http://bit.ly/1YdlRkC ) [13:47]
BingoBoingo "Her homeopathic doctor suggested mayonnaise and tea tree oil. But Tallulah’s mother refused, insisting her daughter be bathed from head to toe in the most potent, toxic insecticide available. 10 times." [13:47]
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mircea_popescu third world problems. [13:55]
BingoBoingo Indeed [13:57]
mircea_popescu oh check it out, dumbass host currently hosting qntra went into the same "js app" mode that sunk namecheap. [14:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50100 @ 0.00052779 = 26.4423 BTC [-] {3} [14:00]
mircea_popescu "ARNING: Respond.js doesn't work if you view the page via file:// -->" [14:00]
mircea_popescu things that are impossible to do online : rent hosting. [14:01]
BingoBoingo Fucking CyberNiggers [14:01]
ben_vulpes bezzle tools for bezzle plays. [14:07]
trinque http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/16/us-g20-turkey-obama-strategy-idUSKCN0T51QS20151116#M8TMqlFz6KkTyBUg.97 << "Dear Islamic State, we haven't the money to fight you. Love, The United States." [14:13]
assbot Obama rules out U.S. troops on the ground to fight Islamic State [14:13]
trinque I can't possibly believe the meta-usg theory. [14:13]
trinque this is all there is. [14:13]
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ben_vulpes leakin again [14:28]
ascii_field ben_vulpes: i never once had cloak here [14:28]
ben_vulpes i...did not know that. [14:29]
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jurov they know better than to mess with alf [14:38]
ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2015#1325130 << pelevin did this, literally. 'love of the three zuckerbrins' [14:39]
gribble The operation succeeded. [14:39]
assbot Logged on 16-11-2015 16:01:12; mircea_popescu: i dunno if anyone's ever seen a watermelon field, but : in the future [like, next year ?] they have this arrangement where there's central piping out in a filed, and fat people go to live in a conected bubble. think "van camping" except without the wheels. they're marketed as you know "reduce your carbon footprint and care for the environment" etc, but basically it is is a suit with l [14:39]
ascii_field ~literally~ this story [14:39]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2015#1325162 << l0l, just now realized ? [14:40]
assbot Logged on 16-11-2015 16:58:10; mircea_popescu: things that are impossible to do online : rent hosting. [14:40]
kakobrekla http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-declares-all-atheists-are-terrorists-in-new-law-to-crack-down-on-political-dissidents-9228389.html [14:49]
assbot Saudi Arabia declares all atheists are terrorists in new law to crack down on political dissidents | Middle East | News | The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1kAwvUj ) [14:49]
kakobrekla o lol nvm [14:50]
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ben_vulpes http://idlewords.com/2015/11/the_advertising_bubble.htm << everything old is new again [15:02]
assbot The Advertising Bubble (Idle Words) ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxD0OH ) [15:02]
mircea_popescu bezzle tools for bezzle plays. <<< fucking exactly. "oh, google can do it". no, they can't. [15:04]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: if one must swim in js soup, and spin 'food' from refined corn so to speak, there are worse protective suits than the jsapp. [15:05]
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ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=14-11-2015#1324278 << see also [15:07]
assbot Logged on 14-11-2015 22:51:46; jurov: btw, i have never seen 17yo able to fix problem somewhere deep in html/js/css stack, or even being able to do multicolumn design with misc resize contraints from first principles [15:07]
ben_vulpes and it's not just "misc" constraints, it's MUST LOOK GOOD AT ALL PROPORTIONS WHILE CLIENT RESIZES BROWSER WINDOW [15:08]
ascii_field in ie5 [15:08]
ben_vulpes ascii_field: aha [15:08]
mircea_popescu this is all there is. << word. [15:09]
mircea_popescu ascii_field oops, apparently having old ideas as new ones happens [15:09]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i dunno what you just said. what's jsapp ? [15:11]
ben_vulpes that thing where there are no "web pages" on the thing, just a dynamically generated xml tree that the browser renders and rerenders in response to user input. [15:11]
mircea_popescu ascii_field here's a thought : trilema looks good at all proportions while client resizes browser window. in ie5, and in anything else. [15:11]
mircea_popescu hurr durr how is this possibru. [15:12]
ascii_field bbbut no round cornerszzzz!!11 [15:12]
ascii_field etc [15:12]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the problem with it is that it does not work. [15:12]
mircea_popescu as ascii_field explains. the value to me of the sort of bs it implements is 0. [15:12]
mircea_popescu if it worked i'd have not bothered to notice. [15:12]
ben_vulpes the engineering constraint is not "webshites that mircea_popescu can use" but "velocity at which bezzlebuxx are burned" [15:13]
mircea_popescu this is not my concern. [15:13]
ben_vulpes works shmerkz [15:13]
mircea_popescu but yes, reasonable litmus : if it does this, it's by idiots for idiots and i don't want to be there. so i move. [15:14]
mircea_popescu without a clear separation between people and non-people there's no practical way to exterminate the non-people ; any policy goal other than the extermination of non-people is fundamentally evil. [15:15]
ben_vulpes it's an exceptionally useful demarcation. "web tech", js and rounded corners for the bezzletron, static html for tmsr~. [15:15]
ben_vulpes if not completely static, at the very least no js. [15:15]
mircea_popescu trilema uses js! [15:15]
ben_vulpes spittoon. [15:15]
ben_vulpes doesn't *have* to. [15:16]
mircea_popescu aha. it uses js THAT DEGRADES. [15:16]
ben_vulpes btcalpha too, if i recall correctly. [15:16]
mircea_popescu aha. [15:16]
mircea_popescu it CAN be done. [15:16]
ben_vulpes never said it couldn't! [15:16]
ben_vulpes now in more tales from the trenches, people buy one of these jsapps and the "oh no my seo" [15:17]
ben_vulpes to which the "industry standard solution" is to render relevant bits of the site down into static html. [15:17]
* ben_vulpes did not make this would [15:18]
ben_vulpes world* [15:18]
* ben_vulpes would be happy to see it burn [15:18]
ascii_field i can introduce ben_vulpes to the joys of starving [15:19]
mircea_popescu heh [15:19]
mircea_popescu i wonder how long until they realise trilema/b-a.com/qntra etc simply dominate google for this reason. [15:20]
ben_vulpes a search engine of our own would be nice. [15:24]
shinohai https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10575690 [15:24]
assbot 21.co Bitcoin Computer Now on Sale | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pwm1SK ) [15:24]
* ben_vulpes looks around for a box with 4gb of ram [15:24]
mircea_popescu on sale as in, marked down ? to maybe 4.99 or so ? [15:26]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes prolly premature. [15:26]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: how do you figure? [15:27]
mircea_popescu we don't even have a cardano let alone deployed pogos [15:30]
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ben_vulpes http://gizmodo.com/americans-have-you-ever-considered-that-you-are-the-ab-1742256807 << don't call it a return to third world standards [15:33]
assbot Americans, Have You Ever Considered That You Are the Abnormal Ones? ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxHuoj ) [15:33]
* shinohai looks longingly at his little pogo on the shelf above. [15:33]
adlai you don't need cardano when you have a raspi + 50GH/s [15:34]
adlai it provides you with a constant stream so your wallet never runs empty [15:34]
adlai https://21.co/learn/21-mining/#buffered-pool-mining-reducing-time-variance [15:34]
assbot 21 - How 21 Mining Works ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxHBjT ) [15:34]
adlai "You do not need to wait for a block to be mined. Instead, as soon as your 21 Chip connects to the 21 Pool we begin streaming you a pro-rata share of your mined bitcoin." [15:35]
adlai chickens go in, pies come out! [15:35]
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ascii_field ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu: not only do we not have them, but i haven't been touching either for weeks, instead breaking my back to pay rent. [15:38]
mircea_popescu you're saying this as if this were somehow laudable. [15:46]
mircea_popescu it isn't. [15:46]
ascii_field oh no [15:46]
ascii_field quite opposite. [15:46]
ascii_field it's approximately as interesting or laudable as getting typhus. [15:49]
mircea_popescu aha [15:49]
shinohai http://dailyhashrate.com/2015/11/16/pay-us-to-shut-down/ <<< I'm doing it wrong. [15:49]
assbot Pay Us To Shut Down ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxJM71 ) [15:49]
mircea_popescu uhhh. [15:50]
mircea_popescu who gave a shit ? what is this anyway. [15:50]
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mircea_popescu did the "professional" derp with a wanna-be qntra that kept getting hit by the ridicule truck (no fault of his own! he's professional! etc) finally close the whatever-it-was-called and open a new one ? [15:51]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you must recall, what was that dude's name ? something short and usian, bill ? joe ? [15:51]
BingoBoingo Which wanna be qntra? the coinfire one? [15:52]
BingoBoingo Mike Johnson [15:52]
shinohai He sold it to some site called 99 bitcoins [15:52]
kakobrekla adlai they reinvented pps? [15:53]
adlai kakobrekla: it gets better, they timeshift mining payouts from future coinbases. it's like national debt, but with bitcoins [15:55]
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kakobrekla heh [15:56]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: iirc in his selling the thing letter he mentioned intending to start a general technology news thing, but I haven't seen anything out of that yet [15:57]
ascii_field adlai: see also thread http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920116 [15:57]
assbot Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element [15:57]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Federal Reserve will raise interest rate at December FOMC meeting - http://bitbet.us/bet/1221/federal-reserve-will-raise-interest-rate-at-december/#b18 [16:01]
ben_vulpes http://dailyhashrate.com/2015/10/05/anti-virus-tycoon-john-mcafee-accepts-bitcoin-for-his-new-money-pit/ << great photo [16:08]
assbot Anti-Virus Tycoon John McAfee Accepts Bitcoin for His New Money Pit ... ( http://bit.ly/1QqN1mE ) [16:08]
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mircea_popescu a right mike [16:13]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2015#1325170 < it doesnt matter, i can decloak anyone. its as good as plaintext ip. [16:13]
assbot Logged on 16-11-2015 17:24:50; ben_vulpes: leakin again [16:13]
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kakobrekla and by "i", i mean anyone that know how to. [16:14]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla not retrospectively. [16:15]
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kakobrekla if you have a cloak and are connected to irc server its trivial to resolve. [16:16]
mircea_popescu yes. but if you see a name in the logs from 2013 it is not trivial to resolve. [16:16]
kakobrekla log doesnt save hosts either way [16:17]
mircea_popescu i don't mean your logs. [16:17]
kakobrekla ah you mean your own. yeah [16:17]
mircea_popescu anyway, freenode does not enjoy any degree of tmsr trust afaik. [16:17]
mircea_popescu they're, +-, the openssl folks. [16:18]
kakobrekla but why we went about wearing them in the first place [16:18]
mircea_popescu well i got mine because sponsorship. was gonna get you and i forget who else one, but then they busted right in between payment and delivery or something. i dun recall exactly. [16:18]
kakobrekla afaik the pretense was a ddos protection. but it works only for lazy ddoser. [16:20]
mircea_popescu was't there some noob autoddosing new joins at some point ? [16:21]
kakobrekla the uncloaked. because lazy. [16:22]
mircea_popescu right. [16:22]
hanbot it's approximately as interesting or laudable as getting typhus. << the tmsr~ trail: asciilifeform has contracted dysentery! [16:28]
BingoBoingo !b 1 [16:29]
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mircea_popescu lmao [16:44]
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-assbot- You voiced Londe for 30 minutes. [16:44]
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thestringpuller https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3t15vm/the_21_bitcoin_computer_now_shipping/cx2b8af << d00d makes me feel ashamed we graduated from the same university at times. [17:02]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 40 @ 0.04185289 = 1.6741 BTC [-] [17:04]
thestringpuller ^huh? [17:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 37 @ 0.041997 = 1.5539 BTC [-] [17:06]
BingoBoingo Fuck, a havelol asset crashed enough to make the main channel ticker again! [17:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 27 @ 0.04185289 = 1.13 BTC [-] [17:07]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2015#1325290 << 'you have died of death. please play again.' [17:09]
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assbot Logged on 16-11-2015 19:25:22; hanbot: it's approximately as interesting or laudable as getting typhus. << the tmsr~ trail: asciilifeform has contracted dysentery! [17:09]
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kakobrekla TheEarthVolta this is not how ratings work, you just dont ask for one up front. [17:15]
TheEarthVolta kakobrekla, Yes, I just wanted to rate a couple of people I follow but couldn't because I haven't been rated myself yet. [17:16]
BingoBoingo TheEarthVolta: Who is yout daddy and what does he do? [17:17]
TheEarthVolta I don't have one, I'm on my own. [17:17]
pete_dushenski !gettrust TheEarthVolta [17:18]
assbot Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user TheEarthVolta: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=pete_dushenski&to=TheEarthVolta | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/TheEarthVolta/ [17:18]
kakobrekla TheEarthVolta you cant give away something you dont have [17:18]
TheEarthVolta kakobrekla, Understood, I'll work on it. [17:19]
kakobrekla unless you are fed i guess. [17:19]
TheEarthVolta Thanks, pete_dushenski [17:19]
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pete_dushenski you're very welcome [17:22]
TheEarthVolta pete_dushenski: My bad, I misread what it was. [17:24]
kakobrekla he is taking the thanks back ftr [17:25]
BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3308 [17:25]
assbot JL: ‘Impotent Sentimentalism’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwzABz ) [17:25]
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BingoBoingo TheEarthVolta: Who are you and what do you do then? [17:25]
pete_dushenski i'm taking my bienvenue back too [17:26]
kakobrekla anyone else thinks of timisoara when reads 'tmsr'? confuzzling. [17:27]
TheEarthVolta BingoBoingo: OTC trader since 2013. I like reading Qntra and Trilema which led me here. I am tired of Reddit. [17:27]
BingoBoingo ah [17:27]
BingoBoingo anyone else thinks of timisoara when reads 'tmsr'? confuzzling. << Sometimes [17:27]
ascii_field ^ me [17:27]
ascii_field always. [17:28]
ascii_field timisoara is still 'mecca' in my head. [17:28]
kakobrekla do you prefer tmsr over ba ? :) [17:28]
ascii_field i liked it. [17:29]
ascii_field (moar) [17:29]
ascii_field and i'd say 'nobody asked me' (tm) but kakobrekla did ask, l0l. [17:30]
kakobrekla fuckin kako messing it up [17:30]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2015#1324951 << i'm sure i'm not the only one who appreciate and benefit from an expansion of this point. for myself, particularly the "cargo cult" element is one that's not immediately apparent. [17:31]
assbot Logged on 15-11-2015 23:53:26; mircea_popescu: ving away from a "frontier" worldwiew and toward a "cargo cult"/scavenger world view. consequently the notion that new things can be made is being gradually abandoned. [17:31]
pete_dushenski *who'd [17:32]
pete_dushenski i see the future as fundamentally subtractive - that is, wiping off the shit in the eyes of physical and digital environments, curating only for the useful and productive aspects, which'd certainly be the "scavenger" element. [17:34]
pete_dushenski are those unable to effectively scavenge reduced to cargo cultism ? is that the divide going forward ? [17:35]
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pete_dushenski was the divide ever any other way ? [17:35]
* pete_dushenski answers own latter question with "yes, aeons ago" [17:36]
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BingoBoingo TheEarthVolta: What assurances do we have that you are not a cop? [17:47]
phf да я его знаю, он в петровке под суками ходил! вали его, воры! [17:52]
ascii_field l0l!! [17:54]
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ascii_field BingoBoingo: 'I didn't know that,' I said. 'No one knows everything,' he said. 'Did you know,' he said, 'that until almost this very moment nothing would have delighted me more than to prove that you were a spy, to see you shot?' 'No,' I said. 'And do you know why I don't care now if you were a spy or not?' he said. 'You could tell me now that you were a spy, and we would go on talking calmly, just as we're talking now. I [18:04]
ascii_field would let you wander off to wherever spies go when a war is over. You know why?' he said. 'No,' I said. 'Because you could never have served the enemy as well as you served us,' he said. 'I realized that almost all the ideas that I hold now, that make me unashamed of anything I may have felt or done as a Nazi, came not from Hitler, not from Goebbels, not from Himmler — but from you.' He took my hand. 'You alone kept m [18:04]
ascii_field e from concluding that Germany had gone insane.' [18:04]
ascii_field (vonnegut's 'mother night') [18:04]
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pete_dushenski in other news, https://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2015-8126#VulnChangeHistoryDiv [18:07]
assbot NVD - Detail ... ( http://bit.ly/1YdJN7w ) [18:07]
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pete_dushenski i got 99 problems and png ain't 1 [18:08]
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BingoBoingo ascii_field: lol [18:11]
phf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2A2g-qRIaU well if there was a third man, were you in fact the third man? -- no i was not. [18:15]
assbot Kim Philby 1955 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HQwoOG ) [18:15]
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trinque I'm putting my wager on TheEarthVolta being some 20s Texan guy with a big beard and short attention span. [18:25]
trinque also likely fan of prog-rock [18:26]
pete_dushenski trinque: how's being back in tejas btw ? [18:27]
trinque quite enjoying it [18:29]
trinque I've always preferred the people here, being that they're capable of eye contact and conversation [18:30]
phf also best burritos in the country [18:30]
trinque and I arrived for the nicest part of the year [18:30]
trinque phf: also that, love the food [18:30]
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trinque can't say that I've seen a girl with stretched out earlobes since I've been back, either [18:31]
pete_dushenski trinque: v. good to hear. didja end up in one of those apartments on the water you posted a while back ? [18:31]
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trinque not yet, staying with family and planning on doing some traveling soon, so I'll settle around here after the new year [18:33]
trinque I've looked at a few places in downtown Houston as well, but I hear the crime situation down there has gotten a bit worse since I lived there last. [18:34]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2015#1325335 << take someone like tlp's favourites : randi zuckerberg / Sheryl Sandberg. looky here : http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/images/leanin.jpg [18:40]
assbot Logged on 16-11-2015 20:28:32; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2015#1324951 << i'm sure i'm not the only one who appreciate and benefit from an expansion of this point. for myself, particularly the "cargo cult" element is one that's not immediately apparent. [18:40]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxZyyT ) [18:40]
mircea_popescu these are some women that are doing no work, but going through THE MOTIONS of doing work. [18:40]
mircea_popescu it is, to them, the reality of the daytime tv drama. the scholarly term for this is, "cargo cult". [18:41]
mircea_popescu it used to be "fakle it till you make it", which is how this always starts. now there's nothing to make, on account of everyone doing the same faking. [18:42]
mircea_popescu nothing is immune from thios brain rot, but the capital investment requirements provide protection. [18:43]
pete_dushenski in other words, there's no there there [18:43]
mircea_popescu which is why the derpage started in "design" and "pr". by now oil is falling, and oil is really the highest capital investment industry out ther.e [18:44]
pete_dushenski other than asteroid mining [18:44]
mircea_popescu that is not a thing. [18:45]
mircea_popescu the problem with cargo cultism being, of course, that the only thing it produces is frustration. [18:45]
mircea_popescu (if it fails, necessarily, but also if it succeeds. especially if it succeeds.) [18:45]
mircea_popescu that frustration, being on a social rather than individuyal scale, and coherent, will find the usual debouchees. [18:46]
mircea_popescu at first, the failure is going to be the fault "of racists", like you see in missouri. like "foreign agencies" in early soviet times. [18:46]
mircea_popescu then it's going to be the blacks. immutably. [18:46]
pete_dushenski and wimminz ? [18:47]
mircea_popescu no. [18:47]
mircea_popescu women are not a minority. [18:47]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2015#1325351 << spiffy. now who's got a poc for this one [18:47]
assbot Logged on 16-11-2015 21:04:39; pete_dushenski: in other news, https://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2015-8126#VulnChangeHistoryDiv [18:47]
ascii_field open sorez!!!111 [18:48]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: what about mexicans ? [18:48]
mircea_popescu what about mexicans ? [18:48]
pete_dushenski as a potential fallguy demo. [18:48]
mircea_popescu check it out, ascii_field 's link doesn't load in the same manner the other sites discussed today don't load. [18:49]
pete_dushenski or is it "blacks because obama" [18:49]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski there was a minority of french in germany in 1930, you never heard anything about those./ [18:49]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: you mean pete_dushenski's link ? [18:49]
ascii_field (re: libpng) [18:49]
mircea_popescu the blacks have nowhere to go. besides, you don't see tumblrs dedicated to "mexicans fucked my wife" [18:49]
mircea_popescu aha [18:49]
ascii_field '11/13/2015 Multiple buffer overflows in the (1) png_set_PLTE and (2) png_get_PLTE functions in libpng before 1.0.64, 1.1.x and 1.2.x before 1.2.54, 1.3.x and 1.4.x before 1.4.17, 1.5.x before 1.5.24, and 1.6.x before 1.6.19 allow remote attackers to cause a denial of service (application crash) or possibly have unspecified other impact via a small bit-depth value in an IHDR (aka image header) chunk in a PNG image.' [18:50]
mircea_popescu fails on trying to load 6th element. [18:50]
ascii_field ^ literally EVERYTHING of any interest from same [18:50]
mircea_popescu meanwhile the archive.ius version i can see just fgine [18:50]
mircea_popescu so i somehow suspect perhaps this is not a simple matter of js-and-the-browser [18:51]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/1B66XYC << deobfuscated turd from same [18:54]
assbot dpaste: 1B66XYC ... ( http://bit.ly/1My0HXd ) [18:54]
ascii_field on the off chance anyone gives half a fuck [18:54]
shinohai mircea_popescu: your node down ? [18:54]
ascii_field shinohai: both of mine are going, if you need a node [18:55]
mircea_popescu shinohai yeah tis in the logs. [18:55]
mircea_popescu ascii_field looks like a buggy google analytics script ? [18:55]
ascii_field aha [18:55]
shinohai k thx mircea_popescu, ascii_field [18:56]
shinohai twas a busy day, haven't checked it before nau [18:56]
mircea_popescu so basically they don't want to load the page until thje script is loaded and i've nullrouted google analytics. [18:56]
mircea_popescu splendid. [18:56]
ascii_field aha [18:56]
ascii_field (but we already knew this) [18:57]
mircea_popescu "Legion Estranger" [18:58]
mircea_popescu wtf is wrong with muricans already. [18:58]
ascii_field http://en.legion-etrangere.com << l0l they have an engl. site ! [19:00]
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mircea_popescu aha. [19:00]
mircea_popescu actually most of the dudes speak english. [19:01]
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ascii_field mega-unsurprise [19:01]
ascii_field most literate folk speak it [19:01]
mircea_popescu where is that song [19:02]
mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6acpVU_KqY [19:02]
assbot Edith Piaf - Mon Légionnaire - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1My1oQ5 ) [19:02]
mircea_popescu times hath changed. [19:03]
mircea_popescu "This presumably goes some way towards explaining why the response to this atrocity consists largely of people declaring that they will continue with their way of life/values as an act of defiance against the killers. The hope being that shopping and consuming junk culture will somehow magic away the enmity of the invaders. Or at least it might stop us from having to think about it." [19:04]
mircea_popescu heh. [19:04]
mircea_popescu http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/11/after-the-paris-massacre/ [19:04]
assbot Christopher Pankhurst, "After the Paris Massacre" | Counter-Currents Publishing ... ( http://bit.ly/1My1wiL ) [19:04]
mircea_popescu "Europe has invited within its borders a very large number of people who have every intention of carrying out further atrocities, and decadent whining only serves to strengthen their purpose. Because their purpose is transcendent, it is to do the will of God and they are entirely willing to die in this purpose." [19:05]
mircea_popescu europe was not a fucking agent in all this. [19:05]
mircea_popescu "europe" such as this exists does the same thing for three millenia straight : once it peaks, it regresses to an infantilized state. [19:05]
mircea_popescu europe is currently a 12yo girly playing idly with her cullotes. [19:06]
pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/BobbyJindal/status/666296258852622336 [19:06]
mircea_popescu yes, she'll get hoisted on a fucking pole. of course. [19:06]
mircea_popescu it happens to be good for it. [19:06]
* ascii_field was under the impression that 'syrians' were already unloading in usa by the boatload [19:07]
mircea_popescu the notion that "the usa" is anything but an obscure, inferiority-complex-ridden province of europe is laughable. [19:07]
mircea_popescu it never became anythning, washington-les-deux-monuments. [19:07]
ascii_field it's this here landmass. [19:08]
trinque I didn't hear the dirt saying anything about USA as I drove across it. [19:08]
ascii_field trinque: over here it talks. [19:09]
ascii_field and walks. [19:09]
mircea_popescu anyway. the writhing of the castrato bois notwithstanding, europe's doing its cycle. [19:09]
mircea_popescu "Now, this is not really a reason to admire them; they should be rightly condemned as the callous killers that they are. But what we need to set in opposition to them is not a further erosion of our already crumbling sacred traditions, but a redoubling of our efforts to resanctify our own dormant traditions and, perhaps even more urgently, to create new ones." [19:10]
mircea_popescu herp. check him out. [19:10]
thestringpuller Europe where one city is built on the ruins of another. [19:10]
mircea_popescu 13yo whiteboy doesn't agree to mommy getting remarried! [19:10]
mircea_popescu he's gonna "resanctify" the casked, check him out. [19:10]
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BingoBoingo Gawker still self destructing https://archive.is/dJXbR [19:32]
assbot On Gawker’s Problem With Women — Matter — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1My3z6n ) [19:32]
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ascii_field ' It’s $2.99 on Kindle, if you’d like me to Venmo you the money. As a person who not all that long ago walked away from Gawker Media, and who also grew up reading Gawker, Jezebel, and Deadspin, the little Kindle Single can actually be a delight...' << at this point my gas mask clogged and i can read no moar [19:41]
mircea_popescu "to venmo the money" ? [19:46]
ascii_field i had to look it up [19:46]
ascii_field it's a spampaypal [19:46]
mircea_popescu im not looking the shit up. [19:46]
ascii_field dont bother , it's a snore [19:46]
mircea_popescu every hipster doofus with his made up shit, trying t oget me to look it up. [19:46]
mircea_popescu casual stupid, the look for this summer. [19:47]
ascii_field i still don't grasp the proliferation of spampaypals [19:50]
ascii_field who the everliving fuck uses them, and for what [19:50]
ascii_field or is this merely another army of the undead thing [19:50]
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ascii_field that doesn't need chumps in the usual sense [19:51]
phf venmo is "big" with college crowd, on account of having better "apps" support. if you're building anything for that crowd, you would carefully consider using venmo as an alternative to paypal [19:52]
ascii_field ~hrolf~ [19:52]
ascii_field vomitworthy. [19:52]
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phf knowing that venmo is in or that paypal is out has no technical merit to it, it's only worthwhile if you're working in fashion industry. continuing that analogy you're building space suits, it's entirely irrelevant to you what sort of pants 20 year olds are wearing. [20:11]
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mircea_popescu or is this merely another army of the undead thing << it is. bitcoin killed paypal, maggots trying to get a piece. [20:23]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu: did i somehow sleep through a death of the ebay monopoly ? [20:24]
mircea_popescu monopoly on what, garden gnomes ? [20:25]
ascii_field opterons. [20:26]
mircea_popescu garden gnomes is the bigger market. [20:27]
ascii_field and those are now sold for btc ? [20:27]
ascii_field bbl [20:28]
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mircea_popescu the point is not whether garden gnomes are sold for btc or anything else. [20:28]
mircea_popescu the point is that the paypal power of the 2005s was broken, and now they're reduced to being a sort of etsy beenz, except for a slightly larger etsy called ebay. [20:29]
mircea_popescu neither carry any cultural importance, and so in this sense paypal was broken. [20:29]
mircea_popescu just like the blacksmith that made the "best steel" of 1415 is for all anyone knows/cares still in the same smoky shed down the same muddy road doing the same grumbly job of it. [20:30]
mircea_popescu the only difference is that in 1415 his workproduct could buy you the world, and in 2015 it's at best a curio. [20:30]
mircea_popescu it all comes down to that ancient "could you buy all of russia by selling apple stock". [20:31]
jurov at least that blacksmith does not go mtgox [20:32]
jurov whereby i learn only hate on paypal from all sides [20:32]
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jurov they ask 2x more fees than credit card companies, yet looks like accepting money through them is much more dangerous [20:34]
jurov must be some kind of waterfall going there, too [20:34]
mircea_popescu i don't think paypal was ever liked, let alone loved. [20:35]
mircea_popescu there are of course the sort of fucktards like for instance came out of the woodwork with the blender foundation debacle who are so invested in making the world suck that they're natural allies for shit like paypal. [20:36]
mircea_popescu but hopefully isis reformats their dumb ass in short order. [20:36]
ben_vulpes not to be confused with the "hubculture" "ven" [20:40]
ben_vulpes which iirc predates bitcoin [20:40]
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BingoBoingo Reddit does law https://archive.is/XTlVK [20:51]
assbot Police Dep. seized and opened package. Legal questions : steroids ... ( http://bit.ly/1j4ayvh ) [20:51]
BingoBoingo And more homomorphs http://science.slashdot.org/story/15/11/16/2129258/microsoft-to-provide-new-encryption-algorithm-for-the-healthcare-sector [20:53]
assbot Microsoft To Provide New Encryption Algorithm For the Healthcare Sector - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1j4aATP ) [20:53]
mircea_popescu i vaguely recall some atrociously hipsterish derps going on some sort of ven rampage with... [20:55]
mircea_popescu was it nefario ? [20:55]
mircea_popescu o brother it's all coming back to me [20:55]
mircea_popescu !s ven [20:55]
assbot 25 results for 'ven' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ven [20:55]
BingoBoingo Fuck, has Bitcoin been around long enough for PTSD flashbacks to set in [20:56]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that reads to me like "ford to provide new thermodynamics for construction industry" [20:56]
BingoBoingo That's probably been a headline [20:56]
BingoBoingo And Tor is unsafer than ever http://www.csoonline.com/article/3004648/security-awareness/after-paris-isis-moves-propaganda-machine-to-darknet.html [20:56]
assbot After Paris, ISIS moves propaganda machine to Darknet | CSO Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1j4aKux ) [20:56]
BingoBoingo Fuck, why does all the fun news have to drop during downtime [20:57]
kakobrekla what are they going to do, ddos isis? [20:57]
BingoBoingo No, spin up more tor nodes for ISIS [20:57]
BingoBoingo If they have all the nodes they get to see all the traffic [20:58]
kakobrekla yes and then what? [20:58]
BingoBoingo Then the gnomes and the underpants [20:58]
BingoBoingo Then Obama makes a poop swastika in the whitehouse and cries racism [21:00]
BingoBoingo And it ends with Charlie Sheen coming out as positive, HIV positive [21:00]
mircea_popescu oh check it out, the ants are swarming. [21:01]
BingoBoingo The watermelon field thing might happen next month for all I know [21:02]
BingoBoingo Fuck it bedtime. Hopefully news stops happening for long enough while I sleep for qntra to come back so I can catch up. [21:06]
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jurov BTCTM: BTC-TC coming back from the dead? [21:51]
kakobrekla wheres the connection? [21:51]
jurov i'm asking if there is any connection [21:52]
kakobrekla based on nick length? [21:52]
jurov nm, lame joke [21:52]
kakobrekla oh. [21:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00054221 = 7.5909 BTC [+] {2} [21:53]
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mircea_popescu length is a good nick to have. [22:06]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2015#1325506 << classic 'theft of theft'. search in ciphered text is a 1990s result. [22:16]
assbot Logged on 16-11-2015 23:50:20; BingoBoingo: And more homomorphs http://science.slashdot.org/story/15/11/16/2129258/microsoft-to-provide-new-encryption-algorithm-for-the-healthcare-sector [22:16]
asciilifeform but now the 'innovatorz!!111111111!!11' can claim it. [22:16]
asciilifeform because divine right of fucktards (tm) or something. [22:17]
mircea_popescu "a result" that's not used is not actually a result. [22:18]
asciilifeform does it count if i used it? l0l [22:18]
asciilifeform or does it have to be on the red square, publicly, with cameras rolling and anthems playing. [22:18]
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mircea_popescu https://reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3sy7vg/buying_100000_in_btc_with_credit_cards_fleeing/ << meanwhile the sheeple are even starting to figure it out. [22:19]
assbot Buying $100,000 in BTC with credit cards, fleeing country : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1H5smC3 ) [22:19]
asciilifeform 'In a story by the New York Times, later removed without explanation [archive], the situation in Paris was used to reignite the encryption debate.' << l0lz [22:19]
mircea_popescu check it out alf, you were here for three years, will be left holding the abandoned pieces of a usg that even the last of the class of public highschool long leeched. [22:19]
asciilifeform perhaps i can put it in the garden as compost or something [22:20]
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mircea_popescu perhaps tyou can be sold at auction to pay its debts. [22:20]
asciilifeform i think i was sold already [22:20]
asciilifeform what's csoonline anyway ? [22:20]
mircea_popescu no idea. [22:20]
asciilifeform (they use archive.is ...) [22:20]
asciilifeform qntra-style [22:20]
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asciilifeform waitasec [22:21]
asciilifeform that wasn't a straight rip of qntra, was it [22:21]
asciilifeform ??? [22:21]
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mircea_popescu "that". what ? [22:22]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2015#1325516 << [22:22]
assbot Logged on 16-11-2015 23:53:33; BingoBoingo: And Tor is unsafer than ever http://www.csoonline.com/article/3004648/security-awareness/after-paris-isis-moves-propaganda-machine-to-darknet.html [22:22]
asciilifeform possibly the paragraph was lifted ? [22:23]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2015#1325547 << afaik nobody sells with creditcard except for toy amounts [22:23]
assbot Logged on 17-11-2015 01:16:02; mircea_popescu: https://reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3sy7vg/buying_100000_in_btc_with_credit_cards_fleeing/ << meanwhile the sheeple are even starting to figure it out. [22:23]
asciilifeform not because schmucks will run to antarctica, but - elementarily - because anyone running cc for coin gets buried under an ocean of carders and the inevitable chargebacks [22:24]
mircea_popescu if you have a cc you can do a wire. [22:24]
mircea_popescu if you can do a wire you can buy bitcoin. [22:24]
asciilifeform aha but it counts as 'cash forward' in usa [22:24]
asciilifeform the credit limit for these is typically much lower than the card's 'proper' one [22:25]
mircea_popescu if you can buy bitcoin on credit in the us and ARE NOT buying bitcoin on credit in the us, you are being raped by all the people who do. [22:25]
asciilifeform normally <$1k [22:25]
mircea_popescu end of story, really. [22:25]
mircea_popescu no ifs or butts about it. the less you steal, the more is there for your neighbour to steal. [22:25]
mircea_popescu they WILL steal it. [22:25]
asciilifeform afaik the correct way to steal it is with straight cash loans (e.g. 'remortgage' etc) [22:25]
mircea_popescu exactly like last legs of soviets. every screw you didn't steal, someone else did. [22:25]
asciilifeform cards ain't it [22:25]
asciilifeform (or the monkeys would be cleaning it out) [22:26]
mircea_popescu there was no heaven and no benefit for the mass of losers that stole last. [22:26]
asciilifeform not even american monkeys, but ru carders [22:26]
mircea_popescu no, the monkeys aren't cleanning it out because mental issues. of this sort. [22:26]
mircea_popescu they are working at it. [22:26]
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asciilifeform if indeed this is so, buterin must have one hell of a waterfall to keep the price three figures [22:27]
mircea_popescu there is ~no relation between numbers on websites and bitcoin price. [22:27]
jurov mircea_popescu: can i exchange you 1 btc for 1k eur next time then? [22:29]
mircea_popescu ok. [22:29]
jurov or for 10 euro, whatever [22:29]
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mircea_popescu methinks you got the wrong direction. [22:31]
jurov :) [22:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: price isn't a scalar [22:32]
asciilifeform the price on the web site happens to be the one ~i would get if i sold my pittance~ [22:32]
asciilifeform so for me, yes, it is the price. [22:33]
asciilifeform for mircea_popescu buying 100,000 btc for swiss franks - price is something else, yes. [22:33]
mircea_popescu price is "300 or whatever" for nickle and dime deals which are mostly predicated on "don't make it too hard for noobs / wild eyed youths to get into bitcoin". [22:33]
asciilifeform 'Mike Morell, former deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency, opened the door for more fighting about encryption by stating that a public debate was needed. "We have in a sense had a public debate. That -- that debate was defined by Edward Snowden, right, and the concern about privacy. I think we're now going to have another debate about that. It's going to be defined by what happened in Paris," he said.' <<< ahahah [22:34]
asciilifeform ahaha reichstag l0lz [22:34]
asciilifeform motherfucking corpses not even cold [22:35]
asciilifeform and we have it already. [22:35]
mircea_popescu ru carder with 10 mn is not getting 3k btc, that's for sure. nor does he want it. [22:35]
mircea_popescu nor is his purchase reflected by coinbase reporting. [22:35]
asciilifeform naturally. [22:35]
mircea_popescu so then your " not even american monkeys, but ru carders " line has 0 to do. [22:35]
mircea_popescu the point remains : like in 1986 su, in 2015 us if you don't steal yourself, your neighbour will. [22:36]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i know that the 'official' price is a fiction. but this was not the evidence for my hypothesis. [22:36]
mircea_popescu it's being slowly emptied. [22:36]
asciilifeform which was that the cards simply happen not to be the vehicle for said emptying. [22:36]
mircea_popescu and it'll get faster and faster. [22:36]
asciilifeform (at least not in the form they exist on this side of the atlantic) [22:36]
mircea_popescu errything not bolted down, really. if you can steal it, you gotta steal it. [22:36]
asciilifeform rather it'll be something like 'buy mercedes on credit in usd, sell for btc to some idiot' [22:37]
asciilifeform the separation between 'chargebackable' usd and the proper kind on cc is older than bitcoin, and originally existed to keep schmucks from paying off one card with another [22:38]
asciilifeform (which would in effect be a zero-interest loan and 'nobody wants this!!1111') [22:38]
asciilifeform and yes, anything that is not bolted down, will be stolen. and whatever ~is~ bolted down, will be sawed off [22:40]
mircea_popescu https://reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/3swirx/ach_payments_payee_able_to_have_last_3_payments/ << pretty lulzy stuff, at that. [22:40]
assbot ACH payments, payee able to have last 3 payments returned simply by claiming they are fraudulent? : Entrepreneur ... ( http://bit.ly/1MSaNBl ) [22:40]
asciilifeform 'ach' is a kind of faux 'wire' we have in usaschwitz [22:40]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the only way you're selling that is if you drive it across the border. [22:40]
asciilifeform aha how else [22:40]
asciilifeform and/or parts. [22:40]
mircea_popescu i think by 95 every russian chick under 20 with boobs bigger than her mom and standing above 1.80 naked had sucked at least one cock in a mercedes that was acquired in just this way. [22:41]
asciilifeform same way other stolen cars are disposed of. [22:41]
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* asciilifeform thought that sucking ~in~ the car, literally, was a thing impoverished usians did [22:43]
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* asciilifeform finds the politics of creditcardism interesting because it is one of the places where bezzle meets actual physical reality, and the interface between the two produces some lulzy effects [22:45]
mircea_popescu myeah. the thing's visibly cancerous. [22:46]
asciilifeform folks have built, briefly, 'arse-mouth systems' in the past: [22:48]
asciilifeform at one point, iirc, the usa mint 'sold' coins using cc [22:48]
asciilifeform so a few schmucks bought'em, then deposited, paid the cc bill, and pocketed the 1-5% 'reward points' [22:48]
asciilifeform netting a few 100k usd each. [22:48]
asciilifeform or so the story went. [22:48]
asciilifeform (the hole was closed, suggesting that there was an element of truth) [22:49]
mircea_popescu myahap we see a redefinition of "consumer credit" to "only real estates and worthless chinese crap. you can't buy a plane, or a shipment of cocoa" [22:50]
asciilifeform almost there even now. [22:50]
mircea_popescu headed that way for a whiole now, EXACTLY under the pressure of "worthless dollars" [22:50]
mircea_popescu aha. [22:50]
mircea_popescu back in 1985 you could open a store with the stock on credit. [22:51]
mircea_popescu today... glwt. [22:51]
adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2015#1325619 << oh, i parsed that as "ach, my unsinkable ship got sunkened" [22:51]
assbot Logged on 17-11-2015 01:37:25; asciilifeform: 'ach' is a kind of faux 'wire' we have in usaschwitz [22:51]
asciilifeform as a student i once tried to put tuition on a cc (to claim the 'reward pts' naturally) and even this caused grumbling [22:51]
asciilifeform notice how gateways which potentially convert cc-usd to benjie-usd (e.g., 'paypal', 'square', the 1,001 spampaypals) tend to have ~very~ fascist controls) [22:53]
asciilifeform e.g., month-long withdrawal delays, etc [22:53]
* adlai got his internet bezzle revoked [22:54]
adlai it's fine, irl plastic works like a champ. makes me feel part of the printing press itself [22:54]
asciilifeform adlai: kicked out of paypal ? [22:54]
adlai not quite kicked out, but 'not invited to return' [22:55]
* adlai hopes paypal doesn't negrate him too now [22:56]
asciilifeform that'd be something [22:56]
asciilifeform can't wait for hitler to join the wot, rate people... [22:57]
adlai they let me withdraw fiat to a bank account, chargeback happened, i tried topping up the account with cc because aforementioned bank account was unavailable... and once the last cc charge went through, they locked the account [22:57]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2015#1325602 << incidentally what's to stop the fella with the 10m from sybilling into a herd of 1,001 schmucks who buy at 300 ? [22:58]
assbot Logged on 17-11-2015 01:31:54; mircea_popescu: ru carder with 10 mn is not getting 3k btc, that's for sure. nor does he want it. [22:58]
* adlai sighs and reads http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920116 [22:58]
assbot Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element [22:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25272 @ 0.00053885 = 13.6178 BTC [-] {5} [22:59]
asciilifeform if the mircea_popescu-price were so much higher than the 300 plebe-price, one would see orgies of sybilling ? [22:59]
asciilifeform what am i missing ? [22:59]
adlai << Purse CEO Andrew Lee: ‘People Will Learn to Use Bitcoin Just for Our Discounts’ >> [23:00]
asciilifeform adlai: the buggers don't like bleeding money any more than you and i [23:00]
asciilifeform you poked a hole, they plugged it. [23:01]
asciilifeform simple. [23:01]
adlai this niche has emerged... so purse get closed, then its the turn of sheep and evolution [23:01]
adlai !t m s.mpoe [23:02]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00052779 / 0.00053339 / 0.00054222 (362458 shares, 193.33 BTC), 7D: 0.00048633 / 0.00053409 / 0.00057294 (4466365 shares, 2,385.45 BTC), 30D: 0.00048485 / 0.00054042 / 0.00057294 (53375217 shares, 28,845.31 BTC) [23:02]
mircea_popescu incidentally what's to stop the fella <<< last time someone tried this (not even 1k) was last week. [23:03]
mircea_popescu you saw what happened. [23:03]
mircea_popescu the usg version of reality works fine for just as long nobody leans on it. like all cardboard. [23:03]
asciilifeform aha [23:03]
asciilifeform what i was wondering is why the leaning is as light as it is. [23:03]
asciilifeform why not same thing ~every~ week ? [23:03]
kakobrekla i just saw 1k btc buy order market price got filled [23:03]
mircea_popescu you ask me that ? i ask you that! [23:04]
kakobrekla like 1 minute ago [23:04]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla on mtgox ? [23:04]
kakobrekla the cans [23:04]
mircea_popescu point remains. [23:04]
adlai MtWinx [23:04]
kakobrekla for 1k nah. for 10k maybe. [23:04]
adlai except not quite market price, there [23:05]
mircea_popescu im not doing a numeric discussion. [23:05]
asciilifeform i suppose the trick would be to drink no faster than the waterfall refills [23:05]
kakobrekla adlai maybe so, but not 500. [23:05]
mircea_popescu you and the other 1k wanna-be bankers (or rather, wanna-stay bankers) trying this. [23:05]
asciilifeform aha it'd be as likely as lice coming to an agreement to drink this-much blood [23:06]
asciilifeform and no more [23:06]
asciilifeform (do lice have... quorum-sensing ?!! like bacteria?) [23:06]
adlai economies of scale don't, um, scale [23:07]
mircea_popescu the saudis pretend so [23:07]
mircea_popescu except it never worked in practice, but hey [23:07]
mircea_popescu actually, this would be useful for a change economics research. obviously lice agreement on lice-ing only works provided the largest lice is cutting his own throat. but by what factor ? [23:07]
asciilifeform iirc the game theory folks bashed their heads raw against this for half a century [23:08]
mircea_popescu aha. [23:09]
* asciilifeform aficionado [23:09]
kakobrekla the diff between 1k and 10k would be the diff between buying chinese crap and buying a plane, if you dont like numbers. [23:09]
mircea_popescu 1k is a cessna ; 10k is a coupla of good condition yugo jets. [23:09]
asciilifeform and 100k is the coke machine. [23:09]
kakobrekla you can get cessna on credit no? [23:10]
mircea_popescu try an' see. [23:10]
asciilifeform for some value of 'you' [23:10]
kakobrekla l0l [23:10]
asciilifeform ;;isup trilema.com [23:14]
gribble trilema.com is up [23:14]
asciilifeform hm [23:14]
liquidassets http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2015#1325587 << thank you [23:27]
assbot Logged on 17-11-2015 01:24:21; mircea_popescu: there is ~no relation between numbers on websites and bitcoin price. [23:27]
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kakobrekla down here also [23:28]
liquidassets http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2015#1325590 << learn to take OK for an answer!!!! [23:28]
assbot Logged on 17-11-2015 01:26:33; jurov: or for 10 euro, whatever [23:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.0005302 = 4.5067 BTC [-] {2} [23:29]
mircea_popescu it's been down since the prev discussion. [23:30]
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