Forum logs for 14 May 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
bitcoinpete | though there are a ton of them out this summer | [00:00] |
bitcoinpete | our little city has jumped on the bandwagon | [00:00] |
bitcoinpete | when the nearest dealer/service centre is 1000km away | [00:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03139998 = 0.2512 BTC [-] | [00:04] |
fluffypony | lol | [00:04] |
fluffypony | well no charging stations here | [00:04] |
fluffypony | but definitely interesting tech when they come | [00:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 38 @ 0.00649341 = 0.2467 BTC [+] {3} | [00:05] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-] | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony your manual bait is meh. | [00:06] |
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mircea_popescu | and obv i mean the noob thaty highlighted me, not the cultural referewnce | [00:07] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.469 BTC [+] | [00:07] |
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mircea_popescu | actually i take that back. she's cute. | [00:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39635 @ 0.00099492 = 39.4337 BTC [-] {4} | [00:09] |
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mircea_popescu | bitcoinpete these people with their largest corp/largest event/largest urmom ass are funny. | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | maybe later this year someone also does the first sale of a bitcoin corp stock, and then it'll be even. | [00:12] |
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bitcoinpete | for the first time in their lives, they just need to use "in the us" after everything | [00:13] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0313997 = 0.157 BTC [-] | [00:13] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 43 @ 0.00623166 = 0.268 BTC [-] {3} | [00:14] |
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davout | mircea_popescu: can we discuss the "lock your account down by zeroing it" ? | [00:20] |
davout | looks like the X.EUR bot locked itself out my mpex account again | [00:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16316 @ 0.00099953 = 16.3083 BTC [+] {2} | [00:20] |
mircea_popescu | davout sure. | [00:21] |
davout | last time this happened the idea was "let's ask people if it's of use to anyone" | [00:21] |
davout | so i'm asking, is anyone with a mpex account relying on this functionality for anything? | [00:22] |
jurov | [00:22] | |
mike_c | jurov: well, yes :) sell below the cap. | [00:22] |
davout | to summarize, if for any reason your BTC balance gets to zero your account gets locked | [00:22] |
jborkl_ | got all my loading placeholders replaced with variables- no visible loading to end user :) | [00:23] |
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jurov | davout its biggest use case is to catch derpy bots | [00:30] |
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jurov | or maybe mpex uses it to prevent numeric overflow.. would explain why overflow happened so far on asset balances only | [00:32] |
fluffypony | so then are you supposed to keep a bare minimum balance in the account? | [00:32] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00099455 = 16.609 BTC [-] {2} | [00:32] |
davout | fluffypony: currently yes | [00:32] |
jurov | fluffypony: if you want to keep trading yes | [00:32] |
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davout | jurov: why is a bot that uses all available resources be considered as derpy ? | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i think that's more a matter of, whether you buy or sell, you buy or sel la number of shares, not a qty of cash. | [00:33] |
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bitcoinpete | fluffypony: lol | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | davout in general, it's a bad idea to execute unspecified actions. | [00:33] |
jurov | i'm just in trollish mood | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | this is not a problem in most cases, but in high security applications it's good practice to never do it. | [00:33] |
davout | jurov: :-) | [00:33] |
fluffypony | bitcoinpete: one of many things I don't need to worry about and jurov does :) | [00:33] |
bitcoinpete | right?! | [00:34] |
bitcoinpete | jurov's a gem | [00:34] |
jurov | but yes, not a bad precaution to always keep one satoshi there | [00:34] |
davout | mircea_popescu: sure, i could add a check, but imo a RAND() quantity would count as unspecified, not a X where X may or may not be larger than my available cash | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | that seems purely arbitrary. | [00:35] |
jurov | davout s your bot does not know what balance it has? | [00:35] |
jurov | that's def derpy | [00:35] |
davout | because the behaviour expected would be to execute the order up to the available resources, which incidentally happens for all other assets, *except* CxBTC, which is purely arbitrary too :-) | [00:35] |
mircea_popescu | well even the x is arbitrary. | [00:36] |
davout | jurov: sure it does | [00:36] |
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FabianB | ;;ticker --currency eur --last | [00:36] |
gribble | 319.937022 | [00:36] |
davout | let me phrase the question a different way, "is it really desirable that it's not possible to put all your BTC in bids without locking your account down?" | [00:38] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03101695 = 0.2481 BTC [-] {4} | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | seems the question you're trying to ask is more like, | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | "is it really desirable that i don't actually calculate what i want to buy before i place an order ?" | [00:39] |
davout | the answer to this question is "i want to use whatever resources are available to populate the X.EUR order book" | [00:40] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-] | [00:40] |
jurov | is it such a big problem to subtract 1 satoshi from these resources? | [00:41] |
mircea_popescu | so then held.eur/my.price | [00:41] |
jurov | subtract/set aside | [00:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [-] | [00:41] |
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mircea_popescu | !up Lee- | [00:43] |
-assbot- | You voiced Lee- for 30 minutes. | [00:43] |
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davout | yea, that's perfectly possible | [00:43] |
davout | but i was under the impression you'd consider removing this feature if nobody was using it | [00:43] |
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davout | jurov: so far the bot actually checks asset balances and changes the order of canceling and placing orders if there are not enough assets to continuously keep orders on the book | [00:44] |
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davout | (versus cancel, and *then* replace orders, which would leave some times with no bid/ask) | [00:45] |
mircea_popescu | davout yes, but consider has this wide timespan in my understanding. | [00:45] |
davout | ok | [00:46] |
davout | so i'll just post orders up to (BTC balance - 1 satoshi) for bids | [00:47] |
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davout | i'm not sure, when the account is locked can i cancel orders ? i seem to recall that the answer is no, amirite? | [00:47] |
jurov | mircea_popescu: lock also locks pushes from the account? | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bni-JsgIQAE0zQO.png check that shit out | [00:47] |
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bitcoinpete | chicago doesn't have a reputation of corruption for nothin | [00:48] |
bitcoinpete | and it's hard to imagine the lines in detroit are that long | [00:49] |
mircea_popescu | jurov afaik no, but i'll have this dblckeched | [00:49] |
FabianB | davout: is the lowest x.eur ask yours? | [00:49] |
jurov | that would improve cold storage security.. any (leaked) push requests would fail until you deposit something | [00:50] |
mircea_popescu | jurov tbh the locking acct feature is a leftover that i'd rather take out than expand | [00:50] |
mircea_popescu | it doesn't REALLY make all that much sense. | [00:51] |
davout | FabianB: X.EUR : S 1`500 @ 0.00317048BTC | [00:51] |
jurov | i'm not using it anyway | [00:51] |
FabianB | ic | [00:51] |
mircea_popescu | $b x.eur | [00:52] |
mircea_popescu | $depth x.eur | [00:52] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: X.EUR Bids: ['309 @ 0.00310023', '214 @ 0.0030999', '101 @ 0.00309875', '1500 @ 0.00307881', '2400 @ 0.0019005'] | [00:52] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: Asks: ['174 @ 0.00310046', '331 @ 0.00310304', '309 @ 0.00310354', '154 @ 0.00310467', '125 @ 0.00312483'] | [00:52] |
mircea_popescu | it's quite narrowly populated this thing | [00:52] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 0.00310046/0.00310023 | [00:52] |
gribble | 1.00007418804 | [00:52] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [00:52] |
Apocalyptic | dat spread | [00:52] |
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fluffypony | Apocalyptic: that's what HE said | [00:55] |
Apocalyptic | heh | [00:55] |
mircea_popescu | someone broke twitter. | [00:56] |
bitcoinpete | ya the links seem buggered | [00:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00099777 = 9.379 BTC [+] | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.qrk.cc/ | [00:57] |
assbot | Quark - Money reinvented by the people ( QuarkCoin QRK ) | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | o look! the first altcoin | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | no sorry i mean the biggest cryptocurrency | [00:57] |
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mircea_popescu | https://quarkfoundation.cc/ | [00:58] |
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mircea_popescu | "Quark is a decentralized crypto-currency that allows for the most fast and secure transactions in the world." | [00:59] |
davout | mircea_popescu: can you buy pencils or a yard rake? | [00:59] |
mircea_popescu | no, but soon it will be the first cryptoaltcurrency to offer pencils and yard raking. | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | i'm kinda rooting for Derp, the most fast and largest biggest secure herpurrency in the world. | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | well, "world". in the quantiverse. | [01:01] |
fluffypony | Derp would never work | [01:03] |
fluffypony | it doesn't have the word "coin" in the name | [01:03] |
fluffypony | or a round logo that looks like a coin | [01:03] |
Apocalyptic | derpcoin comes naturally from that | [01:03] |
mircea_popescu | maybe derpit ? | [01:04] |
Apocalyptic | not that it's a good name | [01:04] |
fluffypony | BitDerp | [01:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00099943 = 16.4406 BTC [+] | [01:04] |
mircea_popescu | derbit | [01:04] |
mircea_popescu | except with the b rotated see | [01:04] |
fluffypony | Derdit? | [01:04] |
fluffypony | Derpit? | [01:04] |
mircea_popescu | herr bit! | [01:04] |
mircea_popescu | der pit. | [01:04] |
fluffypony | much confuse wow such currency naming exercise so language | [01:04] |
mircea_popescu | we laugh, but i've had the occasion to see first hand people who, on account of all the time they spend devoid of human contact, actually speak like that. | [01:05] |
fluffypony | :/ | [01:06] |
fluffypony | I have to break my brain to conform to that, it's worse than trying to talk like Yoda | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | it's the retarded child of a 90s cali valley girl with a | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | hm | [01:06] |
davout | BingoBoingo seemed to have some skill to speak the dotcoin language | [01:07] |
mircea_popescu | with a box of kellogg's cornflakes. | [01:07] |
fluffypony | davout: BingoBoingo speaks dotcoin? | [01:07] |
fluffypony | should we call him BingoBourse from now on? | [01:07] |
mircea_popescu | well... he drinks. | [01:07] |
davout | he does, quite brilliantly | [01:07] |
davout | LOL both of you | [01:07] |
jurov | irllol | [01:07] |
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fluffypony | 1 bottle of wine + 2nd whisky | [01:09] |
mircea_popescu | lightweight. | [01:10] |
fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602950.msg6714086#msg6714086 | [01:10] |
assbot | New Shares on Bitcoin Bourse "TXT" | [01:10] |
davout | fluffypony: faggot | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | i'm on my 198th chocolate truffle with a rum center. | [01:10] |
fluffypony | davout:) | [01:10] |
davout | mircea_popescu: i'll bring you a box of "mon chéri" next time | [01:10] |
davout | pankkake and Apocalyptic would know these | [01:11] |
mircea_popescu | meh supermarket chocolates | [01:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32102 @ 0.00100258 = 32.1848 BTC [+] {4} | [01:11] |
davout | ethanol, who fucking cares | [01:11] |
mircea_popescu | it has to be made by hand in darkness and hidrated with virgin tears! | [01:11] |
fluffypony | crazy | [01:12] |
fluffypony | XXXProfit is not only still around | [01:12] |
fluffypony | but paying dividends | [01:12] |
davout | fluffypony: i'm excited about the bitcoin-central ticker IPO on bourse too | [01:13] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602950.msg6694108#msg6694108 | [01:13] |
fluffypony | davout: can't wait | [01:13] |
assbot | New Shares on Bitcoin Bourse "TXT" | [01:13] |
mircea_popescu | ok that thread was hysterical. | [01:13] |
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davout | seriously, send BingoBoingo a bottle of something and invite dotcoin back, i have a stock of popcorn | [01:13] |
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fluffypony | can I buy him something online with Bitcoin? | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu | no | [01:14] |
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fluffypony | well that complicates my life | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu | only with farq, the first largest cryptoboink | [01:14] |
fluffypony | OH | [01:14] |
fluffypony | or QurafMajKoin | [01:14] |
fluffypony | CPU only | [01:14] |
fluffypony | No IPO | [01:14] |
fluffypony | No Premine | [01:14] |
fluffypony | FAIR LAUNCH | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | "only slightly premined" | [01:15] |
fluffypony | Exchange and auction site at launch because we have mediocre PHP skills! | [01:15] |
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mircea_popescu | but wait, there's more! with every purchase you're entitled to one, slightly used, sliughtly worn, slightly slutty | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | WIFE | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | for no extra charge | [01:15] |
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fluffypony | LOL | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | (divorce proceedings charged separately) | [01:15] |
fluffypony | you heard about the NFD thing, right? | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | no ? | [01:15] |
fluffypony | this altcoin does an IPO | [01:15] |
fluffypony | and they have an escrow | [01:16] |
fluffypony | so it's a "safe" IPO | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu | how's that work ? | [01:16] |
fluffypony | then they shut down and disappear and so sad been hacked | [01:16] |
fluffypony | except | [01:16] |
fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=540017.0 | [01:16] |
assbot | [Wallets Stolen By Hackers][We're Sorry][Contact Anon136 For Escrow] | [01:16] |
fluffypony | that's from March 27 | [01:16] |
fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580537.0 | [01:16] |
assbot | [Wallets Stolen By Hackers][We're Sorry][Contact Anon136 For Escrow] | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu | "presumably due to our high profile" | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu | o ic. | [01:16] |
fluffypony | that's the new one that "shut down" two days ago | [01:16] |
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fluffypony | they're so lazy they're reusing their "we got hacked" message | [01:17] |
mircea_popescu | ahahahaah | [01:17] |
mircea_popescu | gotta keep the margins down. | [01:17] |
fluffypony | yeah | [01:17] |
mod6 | omg | [01:17] |
mircea_popescu | i tell you, the forum is headed to this fucktards and spam scripts bright future | [01:17] |
mod6 | lol | [01:17] |
jurov | Our code has been dismantled << hows that a bad thing? | [01:17] |
mircea_popescu | sorta like the foundation. | [01:17] |
mircea_popescu | jurov no but they mean, if the code were good. | [01:17] |
fluffypony | jurov: I still can't understand what that means | [01:17] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony like if your code was on a mantlepiece, right ? | [01:18] |
davout | 'Cryptocurrency will live on, but it's time for us to die.' | [01:18] |
chetty | bits and bytes scattered on the floor? | [01:18] |
mircea_popescu | (because of its high profile) | [01:18] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: that's what I figured | [01:18] |
mircea_popescu | and then it fell off. | [01:18] |
fluffypony | and then you dismantled it | [01:18] |
mircea_popescu | "Our code has been dismantled, our hope has been crushed, and your coins are gone." | [01:19] |
mircea_popescu | !b 1 | [01:19] |
fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580537.msg6660935#msg6660935 - they pimped that IPO until 30 mins before it "closed" | [01:19] |
assbot | Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2C706FT.txt ) | [01:19] |
assbot | [Wallets Stolen By Hackers][We're Sorry][Contact Anon136 For Escrow] | [01:19] |
fluffypony | and then straight after that it was "stolen" | [01:19] |
fluffypony | but re-using the "we got hacked" message is just lazy | [01:19] |
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mircea_popescu | so much lulz | [01:19] |
fluffypony | I remember when scammers used to fake having an ASIC | [01:19] |
fluffypony | nowadays they just have to announce a "fair launch" altcoin IPO | [01:20] |
fluffypony | no need to fake your ASIC video demo any longer | [01:20] |
mircea_popescu | "If you don't believe you can always use Anon escrow service. I think NFD-Coin is doing a good job with this IPO. but its better to pay a small escrow fee and be safe than sorry in my opinion." | [01:20] |
mircea_popescu | clearly the opinions of nobody on the internet matter a lot. | [01:20] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: sucks when the escrow *is* the scammer | [01:20] |
fluffypony | and they re-use the scammer a month later | [01:20] |
fluffypony | how does nobody notice this shit? | [01:20] |
mircea_popescu | 55 pages, that thing | [01:21] |
davout | fluffypony: do you actually care? | [01:21] |
mircea_popescu | it's merged with reddit. | [01:21] |
fluffypony | davout: morbid fascination | [01:21] |
chetty | who,e new crop of idjuits each new moth ya know | [01:21] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.44123334 = 3.9711 BTC [-] {5} | [01:21] |
fluffypony | I think chetty has it right | [01:21] |
jurov | what would change if anyone noticed? | [01:21] |
fluffypony | there's enough churn that they can run the same scam | [01:21] |
fluffypony | jurov: well...uh...errrm... | [01:22] |
* | fluffypony has nothing | [01:22] |
fluffypony | the mods would do nothing, the community would shout either way and nobody would care | [01:22] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 360 @ 0.00673441 = 2.4244 BTC [+] {10} | [01:22] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.02301001 = 0.5753 BTC [+] | [01:22] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.03137892 = 0.7845 BTC [+] {4} | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | "Of course it wasnt hackers. Before that claim was made, there was a password protected "beta test wallet" that was released. Only they had the passwords and there was no announcement of any hacking when teh password was revealed. It was later found that the zip contained nothing but a useless exe file that did nothing. This exe was put there intentionally by teh ones who had the password. The password was revealed by | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | the "dev", so the question of a "hacker" in between does not arise there." | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | the great and wise forumtards could not hack through the password "dev" | [01:22] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0070725 = 1.4145 BTC [+] {3} | [01:23] |
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davout | i mean, after all, these scams serve the purpose of educating noobs by pain to a certain extent | [01:24] |
mircea_popescu | nah. | [01:24] |
mircea_popescu | if the forum were run by mpoe-pr, then it'd serve the purpose to educate. | [01:24] |
mircea_popescu | as it is, it simply moves some pizzas from idiot us people to famished third worlders, and persuades even more us idiots that "crypto = scam" | [01:25] |
fluffypony | davout: this is beyond education, though | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | pain without humiliation does not work as an educative device. | [01:25] |
chetty | oh, so O's redistribution is at work | [01:26] |
mircea_popescu | chetty man of his time. | [01:26] |
davout | well then it still serves the purpose to reditribute food efficiently | [01:27] |
davout | :D | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | mhm | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | scammers are doing more to end world hunger (and also break up idiotic sexual hang-ups in the 3rd world) than all western charities 100x over | [01:28] |
davout | instead of being metabolized as fat it gets metabolized into energy for third worlders | [01:28] |
davout | so in essence, it's a good thing mpoe-pr got banned, more food for nigerians | [01:28] |
fluffypony | I thought it was only a temp ban tho? | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, she was an artefact of an era gone by. | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | the forum had its own calling. | [01:29] |
davout | i think it would be a temp ban if she actually wanted to come back | [01:29] |
fluffypony | that's true | [01:29] |
chetty | haha never thought of that, shipping money to the 3rd world is waht libtards want, reddit should love all the scams | [01:30] |
fluffypony | after focusing on the securities sub-forum for a few weeks | [01:30] |
fluffypony | I can honestly say that I would not come back if I were her | [01:30] |
fluffypony | telling people they're obviously retarded does nothing nowadays | [01:30] |
fluffypony | they just get uppity | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | chetty they would love it, except it's THEIR money. | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | were it your money then it'd be fine. | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | which is why they want taxation. | [01:30] |
chetty | haha, Thatcher, eventually you run out of other people's money | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | that's the govt's problem. let it create more jobs or w/e it does. | [01:31] |
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mircea_popescu | fluffypony you gotta appreciate, back in early 2012 the composition of that forum was significantly different. | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | there's a huge space between 85 iq and 65 iq. | [01:33] |
fluffypony | true | [01:33] |
davout | 2010 was actually good | [01:33] |
mircea_popescu | and it's been losing about 1 point per month, roughly tracking the btc value | [01:33] |
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mircea_popescu | !up rum234 | [01:33] |
-assbot- | You voiced rum234 for 30 minutes. | [01:33] |
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fluffypony | davout: before my time | [01:33] |
fluffypony | although to be honest, if I'd discovered it in 2010 I don't think I would've had the knowledge and maturity to appreciate what I'd found | [01:34] |
mircea_popescu | well in 2010 it was mostly satoshi. hearn hadn't shown up yet, | [01:34] |
mircea_popescu | sirius was still posting even | [01:34] |
davout | satoshi was posting ffs | [01:34] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=47438 < this is how 2011 looked. | [01:36] |
assbot | Bitcointa.lk: the Bitcointalk community with a proper forum | Bitcointa.lk | [01:36] |
davout | he posted some stupid stuff too XD | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | back then scammers got trampled into the ground and they got all butthurt. | [01:37] |
davout | altcoins were some distant theoretical construct | [01:37] |
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mircea_popescu | https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=216717.msg2275578#msg2275578 | [01:40] |
assbot | First National Innovation Brokers exposed | Bitcointa.lk | [01:40] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.02301 = 0.3912 BTC [-] | [01:40] |
mircea_popescu | old drama. ah, such good days. | [01:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00100494 = 16.1293 BTC [+] | [01:41] |
davout | "Bitcoin Bourse is a decentralised digital market place" | [01:43] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4323 @ 0.00100483 = 4.3439 BTC [-] | [01:43] |
davout | how the fuck is it even decentralized | [01:44] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=15.msg107#msg107 in case you're wondering "why sirius" | [01:44] |
assbot | New Exchange Service: "BTC 2 PSC" | Bitcointa.lk | [01:44] |
fluffypony | davout: my computer is in a different place to their server | [01:44] |
fluffypony | so therefore decentralised | [01:44] |
davout | no silly, that's p2p | [01:44] |
davout | bitcoin bourse 'Human Shield' | [01:45] |
davout | that's probably the only thing the guy could actually be good at | [01:45] |
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benkay | davout jurov mircea_popescu: der.py | [01:56] |
davout | "Firefox ne peut trouver le serveur à l'adresse www.der.py." | [01:56] |
davout | benkay: you got me excited | [01:57] |
fluffypony | lol | [01:58] |
fluffypony | time for sleepz | [01:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00099961 = 22.7911 BTC [-] | [02:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16791 @ 0.00100003 = 16.7915 BTC [+] {2} | [02:07] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-] | [02:08] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-] | [02:08] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.02399989 = 0.504 BTC [+] {2} | [02:08] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00099979 = 4.2991 BTC [-] | [02:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00100191 = 41.3789 BTC [+] {2} | [02:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00430598 = 1.2918 BTC [-] {4} | [02:31] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00430039 = 0.473 BTC [-] {3} | [02:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7092 @ 0.00100349 = 7.1168 BTC [+] | [02:35] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00099893 = 13.8851 BTC [-] {2} | [02:59] |
mircea_popescu | just in case someone else may get a chuckle out of this : | [03:08] |
mircea_popescu | http://pastebin.com/2841S6uF | [03:08] |
assbot | Bitcoin Pete @bitcoinpete 3h @bendavenport @coindesk You too, Ben? Where did - Pastebin.com | [03:08] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;tslb | [03:35] |
gribble | Time since last block: 17 minutes and 27 seconds | [03:35] |
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mircea_popescu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wCgZh-nczY | [03:41] |
assbot | Dakh Daughters "Rozy / Donbass" (live acoustic) - YouTube | [03:41] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.02300654 = 0.4601 BTC [-] {4} | [03:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00099859 = 12.9817 BTC [-] | [04:09] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 4 @ 0.138 = 0.552 BTC [+] | [04:10] |
mike_c | ok, that's creepy. | [04:11] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2014/05/lousy-recoveries | [04:15] |
assbot | Lousy recoveries: No one (important) wants faster growth | The Economist | [04:15] |
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mircea_popescu | possibly the most retarded article of the week, yet standard fare in today's "climate change" style of pseudo-ecinomics | [04:15] |
mircea_popescu | !up slashme | [04:15] |
-assbot- | You voiced slashme for 30 minutes. | [04:15] |
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* | slashme | [04:15] |
slashme | WHOAS | [04:15] |
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mircea_popescu | "The bitter truth is that central banks launch economies off the ZLB when politicians force them to. This was true of many economies in the 1930s, it seems like it will be true of Japan, and there is every indication that it will prove true of Europe and America. The ZLB is not an economic problem. It's not about deleveraging or inflation targets. It is a political problem. Preventing the kind of crisis and recovery is | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | easy: just have a political majority committed to something different. " | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | something different aka, let's all be rich permanently for free. | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | seems like a great commitment. | [04:16] |
xanthyos | WHOAS ya | [04:16] |
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mircea_popescu | xanthyos try again, in a language ? | [04:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00099859 = 7.9887 BTC [-] | [04:17] |
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BingoBoingo | ;;ticker | [04:27] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 439.16, Best ask: 439.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.74000, Last trade: 439.9, 24 hour volume: 5856.32329823, 24 hour low: 430.61, 24 hour high: 442.74, 24 hour vwap: 437.258929729 | [04:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00100164 = 11.9696 BTC [+] {2} | [04:48] |
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decimation | "The argument here would be that unconventional policy might be just as effective as conventional policy, but if the Fed is less willing to use it then the ZLB still represents a constraint. " LoL sentence | [04:52] |
decimation | If only we could charge people for saving money - imagine the heights of absurdity to which we could steer the currency! | [04:53] |
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mircea_popescu | all you really need is for 1 = 2. after that, everything is one single step away. | [05:00] |
BingoBoingo | In this way Bitcoin has stronger regulation than the USD ever can. | [05:01] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00099852 = 9.436 BTC [-] {3} | [05:03] |
mircea_popescu | +1 | [05:03] |
mircea_popescu | "but all you really need is for the politicians to decide otherwise!111" | [05:04] |
mircea_popescu | really instructive by contrast with actual economy, the economist. | [05:04] |
BingoBoingo | Looks like Hanbot took this bet: http://bitbet.us/bet/845/mers-in-us-over-50-cases-before-july/ | [05:06] |
assbot | BitBet - MERS in US: over 50 cases before July :: 0.54 B (42%) on Yes, 0.76 B (58%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 99`831 (100`000 to 1) | [05:06] |
BingoBoingo | Already getting extra action. | [05:06] |
TheNewDeal | that one is interesting | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | not a bad bet. | [05:07] |
BingoBoingo | contrast to http://bitbet.us/bet/600/tradefortress-arrested/ | [05:07] |
assbot | BitBet - TradeFortress arrested :: 0.03 B (25%) on Yes, 0.09 B (75%) on No | closed 2 weeks 2 hours ago | [05:07] |
mircea_popescu | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnYdHI3CAAAEG0k.png | [05:08] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0063501 = 0.2223 BTC [+] | [05:09] |
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BingoBoingo | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/12/glenn-greenwald-uk-arrest-me-edward-snowden-nsa | [05:15] |
assbot | Glenn Greenwald: 'I don't trust the UK not to arrest me. Their behaviour has been extreme' | World news | The Guardian | [05:15] |
mircea_popescu | i wouldn't trust the uk to anything. it's basically the political equivalent of nevada. an uninhabited wasteland where you test nukes. | [05:17] |
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mircea_popescu | "But it's true. He wasn't great at encryption. In common with most journalists working today, he had no clue about tools that would have allowed him to communicate with sources privately, without fear of NSA or any other snooping." | [05:19] |
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mircea_popescu | these people can't math even to the degree of grasping the most basic points of statistics | [05:19] |
mircea_popescu | they can't encrypt, they can barely read and rarely comprehend anything | [05:19] |
mircea_popescu | yet they still think themselves journalists. what sense does this make ? a guy thgat can't turn on the stove and regularly cooks moldy chicken isn't a cook | [05:20] |
mircea_popescu | some dude that can't work a hammer isn't a carpenter | [05:20] |
mircea_popescu | why would a bunch of dorks with nary a clue as to the workings of the actual tools of their trade be even for a second taken seriously as "journalists" ? | [05:20] |
mircea_popescu | i don't see it. | [05:20] |
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benkay | evening | [05:25] |
moiety | morning | [05:29] |
benkay | hey mo :) | [05:29] |
benkay | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/05/13/clay-aiken-congress-democratic-primary/9039487/ | [05:29] |
assbot | Clay Aiken apparent winner of Democratic primary | [05:29] |
TheNewDeal | gunna have to test the old bet both ways theory | [05:30] |
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benkay | !up aabtc | [05:41] |
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benkay | !up agorecki | [05:41] |
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benkay | agorecki what's your story? | [05:41] |
agorecki | benkay: I heard about this channel after mircea saved TrustedBSD, and came here to lurk and see what I could learn | [05:42] |
agorecki | I don't think the channel was voice-to-speak only at the time, though | [05:42] |
moiety | it's quite a new thing agorecki | [05:43] |
BingoBoingo | agorecki: You got your BSD's mixed up | [05:43] |
BingoBoingo | agorecki: But yeah, the voicing is new. | [05:43] |
agorecki | Ah, right. It was OpenBSD | [05:44] |
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mircea_popescu | http://bitbet.us/bet/768/bitcoin-difficulty-over-21b-before-june/ | [12:21] |
assbot | BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 2 days 9 hours ago | [12:21] |
mircea_popescu | so people keep clamoring about how the close should be much earlier than the resolution date. | [12:21] |
mircea_popescu | then when the close is a month before resolution date, they bet 28 bitcents, 99% less than the average diff bet. | [12:22] |
mircea_popescu | herp. | [12:22] |
fluffypony | lol | [12:23] |
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mircea_popescu | classical socialist mindset. fat close buffer means a lot of risk for people betting early, because if something happens they won't be able to cover/adjust for new odds. | [12:29] |
mircea_popescu | two bit webtrepreneur figures tis is GREAT because he's thinking of it happening to other people ONLY | [12:29] |
mircea_popescu | just like us libtards and taxes, or regulation. | [12:30] |
mircea_popescu | when things are changed to accomodate his worldview, then and only then can he see the stuff applying to him. because the libtard has 0 critical thinking ability. unless it's before him, he can't follow a counterfactual. | [12:30] |
mircea_popescu | and so... he doesn't want to bet anymore. but now "it's fair", he says, just, no fair he'd want any part of. | [12:30] |
mircea_popescu | so he's done fixing california and moves to texas. | [12:31] |
mircea_popescu | to make texas "more fair", too, and also liveable. | [12:31] |
mircea_popescu | after which he'll move to mexico or w/e, make that fair too. | [12:31] |
mircea_popescu | these people should be shot, basically. | [12:31] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, fuck that, i'm writing this article. | [12:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 968 @ 0.00310298 = 3.0037 BTC [+] {4} | [12:36] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00099542 = 17.818 BTC [+] {2} | [12:39] |
cazalla | forgot about that prop | [12:39] |
cazalla | i was last to bet eh, oh well | [12:39] |
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fluffypony | this may be a dumb question, but are your winnings weighted against when you made your bet? | [12:41] |
jurov | http://bitbet.us/bet/768/bitcoin-difficulty-over-21b-before-june/ < i completely missed the bet | [12:43] |
assbot | BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 2 days 9 hours ago | [12:43] |
pankkake | fluffypony: no. and that would be to easy to exploit | [12:43] |
pankkake | hm not sure I understood the question | [12:44] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.041 = 0.615 BTC [-] | [12:44] |
fluffypony | pankkake: I meant that the guys that bet early take the biggest risk | [12:46] |
fluffypony | the late-comers already have an indicator | [12:46] |
fluffypony | so their winnings should be weighted as "valuable" | [12:46] |
pankkake | well yes, that's the weight | [12:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.0009963 = 20.3245 BTC [+] {2} | [12:48] |
mircea_popescu | just because someone bets early or a lot doesn't mean they have a point. | [12:49] |
mircea_popescu | so how do you know they're valuable | [12:50] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: I have nfi, I was just asking | [12:51] |
fluffypony | lol | [12:51] |
mircea_popescu | i know, but jus' sayin'. it's a signal, but whatg's in a signal. whatsapp selling for 20bn is also a signal. | [12:51] |
mircea_popescu | soon to become a signalol. | [12:51] |
fluffypony | lol | [12:52] |
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fluffypony | kakobrekla: am I imagining it or is assbot turning @ into / in tweets? | [13:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7481 @ 0.00099326 = 7.4306 BTC [-] | [13:09] |
mircea_popescu | it is | [13:10] |
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mircea_popescu | o back under 1 huh | [13:12] |
mircea_popescu | well it was quite the ride. i wondere how much of it is due to bitpay's largest ipo ever. | [13:12] |
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BingoBoingo | BitPay investors hedging their fx risk through BitPay by diversifying into S.MPOE? | [13:18] |
BingoBoingo | Or hedging "in case Bitcoin develops the other way" | [13:19] |
mircea_popescu | or just wanting to participate or who the hell knows | [13:21] |
BingoBoingo | One of the nice things about Bitcoin is that there is so much that simply can't be known. | [13:26] |
BingoBoingo | Unless you do everything Hearn suggests. | [13:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00099326 = 6.6052 BTC [-] | [13:28] |
fluffypony | http://www.coindesk.com/bittylicious-adds-visa-and-mastercard-credit-card-support/ | [13:30] |
assbot | Bittylicious Adds Visa and MasterCard Credit Card Support | [13:30] |
fluffypony | only for EU countries | [13:31] |
fluffypony | http://news.msn.com/offbeat/italian-factory-makes-bad-mozzarella-13-arrests | [13:38] |
assbot | Italian factory makes bad mozzarella, 13 arrests | [13:38] |
fluffypony | "The probe began after a worker lost some of his fingers because of safety flaws." | [13:38] |
Naphex | maybe safety laws required no fingers? | [13:46] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [13:49] |
mircea_popescu | safetyf laws. | [13:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10774 @ 0.00099688 = 10.7404 BTC [+] {4} | [13:57] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-] | [14:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.03139997 = 0.6908 BTC [-] | [14:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03139997 = 0.942 BTC [-] {3} | [14:57] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12164 @ 0.0009959 = 12.1141 BTC [-] | [15:01] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22984 @ 0.00099386 = 22.8429 BTC [-] {4} | [15:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03139998 = 0.2198 BTC [+] | [15:14] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 80 @ 0.041 = 3.28 BTC [-] | [15:30] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00099703 = 15.1549 BTC [+] {2} | [16:10] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.05517004 = 0.5517 BTC [-] {4} | [16:13] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07392853 = 0.6654 BTC [+] {2} | [16:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30915 @ 0.00099298 = 30.698 BTC [-] {2} | [16:32] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00099492 = 1.7411 BTC [+] | [16:36] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-] | [16:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12874 @ 0.00099647 = 12.8286 BTC [+] {3} | [16:45] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00099289 = 6.7517 BTC [-] {2} | [16:50] |
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artifexd | ;;later tell mircea_popescu Typo in http://trilema.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/ Item 21 is missing the leading "B" | [17:00] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:00] |
assbot | These people should be shot, basically. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:00] |
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bounce | such haet | [17:01] |
artifexd | ;;later tell mircea_popescu Typo in http://trilema.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/ Item 23 is missing the leading "B" <-- lol @ my own typo | [17:02] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:02] |
assbot | These people should be shot, basically. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [17:02] |
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BingoBoingo | Maybe, just maybe, assbot might finally catch up to mircea_popescu | [17:07] |
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thestringpuller | ;;seen benkay | [17:17] |
gribble | benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: |
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thestringpuller | ;;later tell benkay stop being weeeird | [17:17] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:18] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-] | [17:51] |
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benkay | thestringpuller: ? | [17:53] |
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benkay | http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303851804579559071472756120 | [18:15] |
assbot | Hong Kong's Stock Exchange Receives Summons for Metal Warehousing Complaint - WSJ.com | [18:15] |
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Azelphur | why do people keep linking that site, baring in mind it's behind a paywall now? here's a non-paywalled article http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2014-05-13/hong-kong-exchanges-and-clearing-challenged-on-metal-warehousing?ea9c8a2de0ee111045601ab04d673622 | [18:19] |
assbot | Hong Kong's stock exchange challenged on metal warehousing - Financial News | [18:19] |
bounce | search for the headline in google (not, say, ixquick) and you can pass the paywall... for now. | [18:20] |
Azelphur | heh | [18:20] |
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bounce | they're not saying so but apparently the big player(s) are actually shipping metal back'n'forth between their own warehouses to skirt regulations, delay deliveries, and so drive up prices | [18:21] |
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pankkake | Azelphur: your link is paywalled too, for me at least | [18:25] |
Azelphur | wasn't for me :o | [18:25] |
Azelphur | oh, nice it un-paywalls if you go through google, these paywall sites suck. | [18:25] |
fluffypony | Azelphur: did you visit the link from Google? | [18:25] |
fluffypony | oh there you go | [18:25] |
fluffypony | WSJ is the same, you visit from Google and it's fine | [18:25] |
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mike_c | benkay: you ever use ansible? | [18:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15245 @ 0.00099738 = 15.2051 BTC [+] | [18:26] |
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* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com | [18:27] |
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pankkake | it werks with https://i.imgur.com/JLzPzsd.png | [18:27] |
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fluffypony | pankkake: such hakker | [18:28] |
pankkake | since I block referer by default, had no choice | [18:29] |
pankkake | I used to have custom funny referers for friends' sites | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6782 @ 0.00099774 = 6.7667 BTC [+] {2} | [18:30] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0070997 = 0.355 BTC [+] | [18:31] |
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mike_c | ^ investors liked rent's recent update. | [18:32] |
kakobrekla | what was that | [18:32] |
mike_c | just a snapshot on where they are at, properties and such. they are claiming NAV of 0.0083 btc per share | [18:33] |
kakobrekla | cool | [18:33] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 24 @ 0.07193522 = 1.7264 BTC [+] {13} | [18:34] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.0981065 = 1.4716 BTC [+] {8} | [18:36] |
benkay | mike_c: not that one in particular, but i'm pretty well versed in configuration mgmt at large. why do you ask? | [18:39] |
benkay | hey, rent's a great deal in a bear btc market. | [18:40] |
mike_c | curious if you had any experience with it. i am considering trying it out. | [18:40] |
benkay | are you running bare metal? | [18:40] |
mike_c | um, no? virtual servers. | [18:40] |
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benkay | just write scripts and shoot them in the head when they get uppity. | [18:42] |
mike_c | that's what i have done in the past (largely with fabric). thought maybe i'd get fancy. | [18:42] |
benkay | don't get fancy. | [18:42] |
mike_c | but automation! magic! it's easier until it doesn't work! | [18:42] |
benkay | mhm. | [18:42] |
benkay | you know what's entirely adequate automation? bash scripts and an api for terminating uppity instances. | [18:43] |
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benkay | this for the record you cloud haters is why other peoples machines are great. | [18:43] |
benkay | idempotence comes for free. | [18:43] |
benkay | "free" | [18:43] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [+] | [18:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00099808 = 6.9866 BTC [+] | [18:56] |
benkay | !up phish | [18:57] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.46321873 BTC to 8`673 shares, 28401 satoshi per share | [19:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11290 @ 0.00099808 = 11.2683 BTC [+] | [19:06] |
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benkay | !up pactr | [19:12] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03105611 = 0.3727 BTC [-] {3} | [19:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8196 @ 0.00099785 = 8.1784 BTC [-] {2} | [19:16] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02322594 = 0.1161 BTC [-] {2} | [19:16] |
fluffypony | mike_c: if you want to get semi-fancy with less headaches maybe puppet is the way to go? | [19:16] |
fluffypony | ansible is awesome, but I found it over-engineered for the relatively simple stuff I need | [19:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20907 @ 0.00099281 = 20.7567 BTC [-] | [19:17] |
fluffypony | kinda like how I spent 2 days getting exim4 perfectly setup as an mta for outbound mail when sendmail would be fine | [19:17] |
fluffypony | good memories | [19:17] |
mike_c | well, scripts are fine for semi-fancy. if i'm going to learn something new i'd rather it be something i want to know going forward. which i think would be ansible over chef/puppet. | [19:17] |
fluffypony | yeah if you want to pick up a skill ansible is definitely a better option | [19:18] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11336 @ 0.00099427 = 11.271 BTC [+] | [19:27] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.074 = 0.222 BTC [+] | [19:29] |
bounce | http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/13/bitcoin-regulations-idUSL6N0NY4UL20140513 | [19:31] |
assbot | Bitcoin needs regulatory framework to change risky image| Reuters | [19:31] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0739653 = 0.1479 BTC [-] | [19:36] |
fluffypony | dat risqué image | [19:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [-] {2} | [19:40] |
FabianB | "The Bitcoin Foundation aims to standardise the currency" <-- are there different bitcoins? | [19:41] |
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bounce | blue, and green, and redlisted, and whatnot. well, if the foundation has its way at least. | [19:42] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20038 @ 0.00099227 = 19.8831 BTC [-] {2} | [19:42] |
fluffypony | FabianB: haven't you heard - Bitcoin 2.0 is coming | [19:42] |
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FabianB | so they want to anti-standardise | [19:43] |
fluffypony | MaidSafe was Bitcoin 2.0 | [19:43] |
fluffypony | then sidechains was Bitcoin 2.0 | [19:43] |
bounce | next you'll need a bitcoin transmission licence to send (or receive) more than 1 bitcoin per day | [19:44] |
Apocalyptic | bounce, these derps... | [19:45] |
FabianB | or even carry more than one | [19:45] |
fluffypony | I think coloured coins was Bitcoin 2.0 at one point | [19:46] |
bounce | hey, they got elected in fair vote! can't be that bad, can they? | [19:46] |
Apocalyptic | fluffypony, now it's NXT i think | [19:47] |
fluffypony | maybe African-American coins are the way of the future | [19:48] |
fluffypony | Apocalyptic: probably | [19:48] |
Apocalyptic | not that i follow that scene that much | [19:48] |
rithm | derp | [19:52] |
rithm | if the foundation wants to do it, it must be bad | [19:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00099134 = 6.7411 BTC [-] | [20:04] |
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punkman | if you ever run out of lols... https://www.dhs.gov/dhs-daily-open-source-infrastructure-report | [20:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00099083 = 17.3395 BTC [-] {2} | [20:16] |
punkman | https://www.contributoria.com/issue/2014-05/5319c4add63a707e780000cd | [20:16] |
assbot | Whats the evidence on using rational argument to change peoples minds? : May 2014 : Contributoria - community funded, collaborative journalism | [20:16] |
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kakobrekla | fluffypony re twitter, thats what the output from htmldom came to be, i havent bothered to check the details at all :) | [20:17] |
fluffypony | ah k | [20:17] |
fluffypony | I wonder if it's not some weird utf-8 oddity that's causing it | [20:18] |
kakobrekla | no clue but is it an issue, its not like @ its going to 'work' | [20:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.02353799 = 0.4943 BTC [+] {2} | [20:19] |
fluffypony | not an issue, just makes some of the tweets read weirdly | [20:19] |
kakobrekla | so its not an issue only that it is | [20:20] |
fluffypony | exactly | [20:22] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.074 = 0.518 BTC [+] | [20:24] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7818 @ 0.00099015 = 7.741 BTC [-] {2} | [20:27] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 23 @ 0.041 = 0.943 BTC [-] | [20:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14365 @ 0.00099013 = 14.2232 BTC [-] {2} | [20:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07397821 = 0.6658 BTC [-] | [20:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00099013 = 17.1292 BTC [-] | [20:39] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 48 @ 0.00680008 = 0.3264 BTC [-] {2} | [20:43] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12571 @ 0.00099011 = 12.4467 BTC [-] {2} | [20:47] |
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fluffypony | http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-05-12-b3b3939.png | [20:51] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00099427 = 12.5278 BTC [+] | [20:53] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03139999 = 0.2826 BTC [+] | [20:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.02449366 = 0.3184 BTC [+] | [20:57] |
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bitcoinpete | http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/14/first-largest-bestest-ever-in-the-us/ | [20:59] |
assbot | First! Largest! Bestest! Ever! In The US | When Bitcoin Met Pete | [20:59] |
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artifexd | This has been running smoothly for a while now so I'll share it here: ##bitbet-rt | [21:02] |
pankkake | cool | [21:03] |
artifexd | Since it is kinda slow, this is what the past 12-ish hours looked like: http://dpaste.com/0QNY970/ | [21:04] |
assbot | dpaste: 0QNY970 | [21:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 64 @ 0.03139999 = 2.0096 BTC [+] | [21:04] |
bitcoinpete | nice artifexd | [21:05] |
pankkake | does it show comments too? | [21:05] |
artifexd | ty | [21:05] |
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artifexd | No. Just bets created and bets placed. | [21:05] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 33 @ 0.041 = 1.353 BTC [-] | [21:05] |
artifexd | If kakobrekla creates a feed for comments, I'll add them. | [21:06] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.132 = 0.264 BTC [-] | [21:08] |
kakobrekla | coolness artifexd | [21:08] |
kakobrekla | !up artifexd double voice for you | [21:08] |
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artifexd | lol | [21:08] |
thestringpuller | !down kakobrekla | [21:08] |
thestringpuller | lol | [21:08] |
thestringpuller | jkjkjk | [21:08] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03139999 = 0.2512 BTC [+] | [21:09] |
fluffypony | "thestringpuller's Guide to Losing Voice in #bitcoin-assets - A Compendium" | [21:09] |
thestringpuller | ppffft kakobrekla got mah back | [21:09] |
thestringpuller | except in a knife fight | [21:10] |
fluffypony | lol | [21:10] |
thestringpuller | thestringpuller's guide to pulling strings | [21:11] |
thestringpuller | lol | [21:11] |
fluffypony | now that I'd pay for | [21:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5007 @ 0.00099011 = 4.9575 BTC [-] | [21:15] |
bitcoinpete | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-14/francis-bacon-portrait-of-companion-fetches-80-8-million.html | [21:16] |
assbot | Billionaires Help Christies to Record $745 Million Sale - Bloomberg | [21:16] |
bitcoinpete | warhol's riot fetched $62M, up 23.3% compounded annually since last sold in 1992. | [21:17] |
bitcoinpete | there's your inflation | [21:18] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00098986 = 9.7501 BTC [-] | [21:23] |
fluffypony | bitcoinpete | [21:24] |
fluffypony | I don't get the Ohio thing | [21:24] |
fluffypony | what am I missing? | [21:24] |
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bitcoinpete | fluffypony: must be where angellist is based | [21:25] |
bitcoinpete | or davenport is from | [21:25] |
fluffypony | oic | [21:25] |
bitcoinpete | what ohio has to do with anything isn't clear to me either lol | [21:25] |
fluffypony | glad there wasn't some important back story I was missing | [21:25] |
artifexd | Isn't that were the20year is doing his RENT thing? | [21:26] |
bitcoinpete | i think the world is missing this back story | [21:26] |
fluffypony | I don't get why the maths is so hard for them | [21:26] |
fluffypony | the world's most expensive pizza will always be the 10k BTC pizza | [21:26] |
fluffypony | forever | [21:26] |
bitcoinpete | either way, we're nearing the end of americans walking on the streets in berlin and telling people what state they're from | [21:26] |
fluffypony | because nobody will ever pay more for that in BTC | [21:26] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-] | [21:27] |
fluffypony | and as the tweet pointed out, 30k BTC > 20k BTC | [21:27] |
fluffypony | the USD exchange rate at the time being rather irrelevant | [21:27] |
Apocalyptic | "30k BTC > 20k BTC" dat statement | [21:27] |
bitcoinpete | it's like the wright brothers paying 6 airplanes for a pizza, now us wondering how many 787s that is | [21:28] |
bitcoinpete | ok not quite... | [21:28] |
fluffypony | heh | [21:29] |
kakobrekla | a btc in a btc irrelevant of timespace | [21:29] |
bitcoinpete | it's more like the art market | [21:29] |
kakobrekla | spacetime | [21:29] |
kakobrekla | whatever. | [21:29] |
fluffypony | Inspector Spacetime? | [21:30] |
bitcoinpete | there's only one of calder's poisson volant | [21:30] |
kakobrekla | inspector speculum | [21:30] |
bitcoinpete | speculator inspectum | [21:30] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.074 = 0.222 BTC [+] | [21:34] |
bounce | inspector gadget | [21:35] |
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bitcoinpete | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-13/bitcoin-bingo-what-ticker-will-the-winklevii-pick-for-their-etf-.html | [21:38] |
assbot | Bitcoin Bingo: What Ticker Will the Winklevii Pick for Their ETF? - Bloomberg | [21:38] |
bitcoinpete | everyone wants to know! | [21:38] |
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fluffypony | the tension! | [21:40] |
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Apocalyptic | sigh | [21:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4549999 BTC [+] | [21:46] |
mike_c | oh, fu facebook. i get it. | [21:46] |
mike_c | took a minute | [21:46] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00098967 = 12.9647 BTC [-] | [21:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07499986 = 0.6 BTC [+] {3} | [21:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 243 @ 0.00098986 = 0.2405 BTC [+] | [21:52] |
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bitcoinpete | http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/#comment-329 | [22:01] |
assbot | The Brokenness of MaidSafe | When Bitcoin Met Pete | [22:01] |
bitcoinpete | someone's not happy... | [22:01] |
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mike_c | what 8 years is he talking about? | [22:06] |
bitcoinpete | the 8 years maidsafe spent "working" and "pitching vcs" | [22:08] |
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bitcoinpete | being unsuccessful in accomplishing anything productive in that time | [22:09] |
bitcoinpete | but y'know, they tried | [22:09] |
bitcoinpete | and toured the world | [22:09] |
bitcoinpete | and derped | [22:09] |
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mike_c | you should tell him it's a really fucking stupid name too. | [22:11] |
pankkake | is there an explanation for the name? it sounds like something against the evil maid attack, but isn't | [22:11] |
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bitcoinpete | maybe it has something to do with rosie, the jetsons' maid | [22:12] |
mike_c | Massive Array of Internet Disks Something something something | [22:13] |
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bitcoinpete | that works too | [22:16] |
danielpbarron | your data is "made safe" by their service (that's what I assumed it meant) | [22:16] |
bitcoinpete | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48itJfUr8ZM | [22:16] |
assbot | The Jetsons 1963 - YouTube | [22:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20266 @ 0.00099422 = 20.1489 BTC [+] {2} | [22:17] |
mike_c | "It's an acronym; "Massive Array of Internet Disks, Secure Access For Everyone"." | [22:17] |
danielpbarron | they should work for congress | [22:18] |
bitcoinpete | bbl | [22:18] |
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kakobrekla | but if you gotta pay for it, just buy a server ? | [22:19] |
kakobrekla | not that im saying stuff you wouldnt pay for is worth saving | [22:19] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.02350366 = 0.3526 BTC [-] {4} | [22:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.02348994 = 0.6577 BTC [-] {6} | [22:42] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.03139999 = 0.3454 BTC [+] | [22:43] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 31 @ 0.03139999 = 0.9734 BTC [+] {3} | [22:44] |
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bounce | http://readwrite.com/2014/05/13/mobile-wallets-reality | [22:52] |
assbot | Let's Face Facts: Mobile Wallets Are Doomed – ReadWrite | [22:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4399001 BTC [-] | [22:53] |
artifexd | http://bitbet.us/bet/846/ <- first time I've seen a bet before the initial two bets were placed. | [22:55] |
assbot | BitBet - Clay Aiken to win in NC :: 0 B (50%) on Yes, 0 B (50%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 100`000 (100`000 to 1) | [22:55] |
mike_c | quick, get the best weight! | [22:56] |
kakobrekla | yeah i was just typing it in the other chan only to get muted :) | [22:56] |
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bounce | oooh seekrit channels where kako gets muted | [22:56] |
kakobrekla | :D | [22:57] |
mike_c | kako got muted in all the channels, that's why he made his own :) | [22:57] |
kakobrekla | ... | [22:57] |
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kakobrekla | keep em comming now | [22:57] |
mike_c | next is his own forums :D | [22:57] |
artifexd | I should probably change the topic to point people to here if they want to discuss it. | [22:57] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 223 @ 0.0042203 = 0.9411 BTC [-] {5} | [22:57] |
kakobrekla | registration will be 31 btc | [22:58] |
kakobrekla | for the forums | [22:58] |
Duffer1 | ;seen dexX7 | [22:59] |
kakobrekla | any posting a banable offense | [22:59] |
Duffer1 | ;;seen dexX7 | [22:59] |
gribble | dexX7 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 43 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.04175 = 0.835 BTC [+] {2} | [22:59] |
Duffer1 | good afternoon gentlemangs | [23:00] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03139999 = 0.628 BTC [+] | [23:00] |
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kakobrekla | hey | [23:01] |
artifexd | Topic changed. Anybody that wants to offer suggestions/criticisms/whatever and can't talk in here should be smart enough to figure out who runs the bot. | [23:01] |
artifexd | s/should be/will need to be/ | [23:02] |
mike_c | you should flip that. anyone can post, but posting gets you banned, then 31 btc to get unbanned. you'll be rich. | [23:02] |
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kakobrekla | but socks? | [23:03] |
artifexd | Interesting idea. Put the warning in the topic. Ban them with a message: Send 0.001 BTC to XXX to get unbanned. Collect riches. | [23:03] |
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fluffypony | http://i.imgur.com/yeGvLEO.jpg | [23:04] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+] | [23:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+] | [23:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8849 @ 0.00100003 = 8.8493 BTC [+] | [23:10] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [-] | [23:11] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0071 = 0.355 BTC [+] | [23:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00100033 = 1.8006 BTC [+] | [23:14] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07399 = 0.222 BTC [-] | [23:17] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0739809 = 0.8138 BTC [-] {2} | [23:18] |
kakobrekla | fluffypony scammer | [23:19] |
fluffypony | plz | [23:19] |
fluffypony | seasoned scammer to you | [23:19] |
fluffypony | little bit of salt and pepper | [23:19] |
kakobrekla | no you are, thats not a jpg. | [23:19] |
fluffypony | lol | [23:19] |
fluffypony | that's imgur's fault not mine | [23:20] |
kakobrekla | just shill then | [23:20] |
fluffypony | imgur shill | [23:20] |
kakobrekla | totally | [23:20] |
fluffypony | where is my wealth creation! | [23:20] |
thestringpuller | fluffypony: fucking build a machine to take money from the poor | [23:21] |
thestringpuller | ;;last seenbitcoinpete | [23:21] |
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fluffypony | I meant from shilling for imgur | [23:21] |
fluffypony | :-P | [23:21] |
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kakobrekla | they pay you directly in dogecoins | [23:22] |
thestringpuller | which will be worth x0.5 in a year | [23:23] |
thestringpuller | because you know | [23:23] |
thestringpuller | inflation | [23:23] |
kakobrekla | moiety what happened to dat wiki page? | [23:24] |
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fluffypony | thestringpuller didn't they cancel that inflation thing | [23:31] |
fluffypony | and everyone was up in arms | [23:31] |
fluffypony | http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/02/dogecoin-to-allow-annual-inflation-of-5-billion-coins-each-year-forever/ | [23:32] |
assbot | Dogecoin to allow annual inflation of 5 billion coins each year, forever | Ars Technica | [23:32] |
fluffypony | “Thanks for killing the profitability of the currency. Now it's going to be worthless in a couple of years and never reach the value of Bitcoin or even anywhere close,” wrote MadCold on Github. | [23:32] |
fluffypony | l.o.l. (tm) | [23:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00100069 = 2.2015 BTC [+] | [23:32] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [-] | [23:36] |
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kakobrekla | artifexd bugs! | [23:48] |
artifexd | I see that. I have a plan. I will code it up tonight. | [23:48] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0749999 = 0.3 BTC [+] | [23:59] |
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