Forum logs for 12 Sep 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00076697 = 3.9115 BTC [+]	[00:00]
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BingoBoingo	http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5686297&cid=47884135 << "Welcome to America, Canada's version of Mexico."	[00:04]
assbot	CBC Warns Canadians of "US Law Enforcement Money Extortion Program" - Slashdot	[00:04]
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asciilifeform	http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42&cpage=2#comment-16766 << loltron! flamefest from '09 still going strong. they never, ever get tired.	[00:40]
assbot	Loper OS » Thumbs Down for Clojure	[00:40]
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mircea_popescu	FabianB nice tickmarks	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	!up chalbersma	[00:56]
-assbot-	You voiced chalbersma without time-limit.	[00:56]
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asciilifeform	http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/american-shakedown-police-won-t-charge-you-but-they-ll-grab-your-money-1.2760736 << lol	[00:58]
assbot	American shakedown: Police won't charge you, but they'll grab your money - World - CBC News	[00:58]
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mircea_popescu	The CBC is warning Canadians about a U.S. program where America law enforcement officers — from federal agents to state troopers right down to sheriffs in one-street backwaters — are operating a vast, co-ordinated scheme to grab as much of the public's cash as they can through seizure laws.	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	rogue state is going to rogue state.	[00:58]
asciilifeform	'It involves a nationwide network of enforcement agencies (except in the few states that have banned it) that operates with the help of a vast private intelligence service called “Black Asphalt”'	[00:59]
asciilifeform	https://blackasphalt.org << they have a site, yes.	[00:59]
assbot	Black Asphalt - Logan County Sheriff's Department:	[00:59]
chalbersma	I wish that that description was overstating it.	[01:00]
asciilifeform	you can apparently buy... shirts and screw-drivers there.	[01:00]
BingoBoingo	http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/goreSSL	[01:01]
assbot	goreSSL	[01:01]
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mircea_popescu	"When I go on a road trip I always carry enough cash to buy gas to get to my destination should my credit card stop working.	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	I got pulled over in Nebraska and when I was getting my license out of my wallet the officer saw a $100 bill in there and ended up confiscating the $400 I had on me as suspected drug money without ever arresting me or even charging me with a crime.	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	I got a receipt and an affidavit indicating the amount seized and why. I petitioned the court for the return of my money and the court denied me saying that possession of that much cash constituted probable cause of drug activity and that I should be happy not to be in jail for drugs."	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	400 dollars. herp.	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	are us folk really that poor ?	[01:01]
asciilifeform	http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/09/police-seizure-black-asphalt-network << apparently, 'asphalt' sells subscription to a db of who is best to plunder and where to find them.	[01:02]
assbot	Cops using controversial database to identify search and seizure targets	[01:02]
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BingoBoingo	are us folk really that poor ? << Cash averse. Love their plastic	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	so they're really that poor.	[01:03]
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BingoBoingo	Yeah	[01:04]
asciilifeform	http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/07/police-intelligence-targets-cash << original article apparently	[01:04]
assbot	Police training firms teaching helps fuel rise in cash seizures on U.S. highways \| The Washington Post	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	well, being a 3rd world shithole is pretty bad, but not knowing it is arguably worse.	[01:04]
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mircea_popescu	%p	[01:07]
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atcbot	[PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.09 TH/s	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	%d	[01:07]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 285796.47 in 1239 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -84.78	[01:07]
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BingoBoingo	http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=1250751	[01:33]
assbot	ESPN.com: Page 2 : Fear & Loathing in America	[01:33]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00076425 = 4.5473 BTC [-]	[01:45]
mike_c	ThickAsThieves: by the way, i did some rounds of correlation analysis. s.mpoe continues to defy explanation. there is certainly no correlation to the exchange rate.	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	rng!	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	mike_c there's always ~some~ correlation. since you did the math anyway, what is it ?	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	.2 ?	[01:49]
mike_c	i don't know about stand alone, but it is when combined with the exchange rate in any fashion.	[01:49]
mike_c	lower	[01:49]
mike_c	below .1	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	lower than .2 ?!	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	that's rich.	[01:49]
mike_c	looking at any reasonable timeframe it is nothing. I tried to force it. took just the last few months, removed some of the recent dip/spikes, and got it up to 0.5	[01:50]
mike_c	but it was stupid	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	congrats, you basically did ta :D	[01:50]
mike_c	tea leaves came up empty	[01:51]
mike_c	the only surprise to me was just how low the correlation was.	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	i hear you.	[01:51]
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mircea_popescu	!up hyhycaptain	[01:51]
-assbot-	You voiced hyhycaptain for 30 minutes.	[01:51]
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hyhycaptain	ns identify 1DmtGhb*^&!	[01:55]
asciilifeform	^ pw!?	[01:56]
Apocalyptic	probably	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	hyhycaptain change it now, chan is logged.	[01:56]
Apocalyptic	you may want to change that asap	[01:56]
BingoBoingo	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2014#826852	[01:57]
assbot	Logged on 11-09-2014 22:54:38; hyhycaptain: ns identify 1DmtGhb*^&!	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	also separated pws are shitty. no crap.	[01:57]
hyhycaptain	ns release	[01:58]
BingoBoingo	DMT and GHB... tripping balls?	[01:58]
jurov	http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/russia-putin-revolutionizing-information-warfare/379880/?single_page=true	[01:58]
assbot	Russia and the Menace of Unreality - The Atlantic	[01:58]
Apocalyptic	hyhycaptain, is your "/" key broken ?	[01:58]
hyhycaptain	gee yes, and i can't find anything	[01:58]
xmj	jurov: i've seen it before	[01:58]
xmj	jurov: Goebbels would be SO fucking proud.	[01:58]
xmj	or maybe not; they're slavs.	[01:58]
jurov	that's how asciilifeform's conquest works	[01:59]
asciilifeform	proud >> of 'the atlantic.'	[01:59]
jurov	asciilifeform but it's true	[01:59]
jurov	i see here that horrible disinfo leaking from the east	[02:00]
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jurov	such as, EU supposedly enforcing a "juvenile justice"	[02:00]
mircea_popescu	assbot> Russia and the Menace of Unreality - The Atlantic << gotta love the english agitprop, this entire "the gauls don't really exist so clearly they couldn't be at the gates" thing.	[02:00]
asciilifeform	jurov: how is that disinfo ?	[02:00]
jurov	that will take kids away from heteros and give them to queers	[02:00]
mircea_popescu	"putin doesn;t understand how the world works"	[02:00]
asciilifeform	jurov: nope. in russia, people have successfully resisted, for the most part, the 'civilized' western notion that the crown has business taking children.	[02:01]
jurov	but whole juvenile justice story is fabricated	[02:02]
asciilifeform	the 'queers' angle is sprayed on by western journarasts.	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	jurov it's only nonsense in the form presented. otherwise, the eu does believe it has jurisdiction over children above and beyond that of the family.	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	^	[02:02]
asciilifeform	as does usa.	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform usa is just a colony.	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	of course it'd fly along with whatever the french, the english and so forth figure out.	[02:02]
hyhycaptain	!up	[02:03]
jurov	of course that is how RT works	[02:03]
jurov	takes a grain of EU social care taking children	[02:04]
mircea_popescu	that grain is a grain in my eye.	[02:04]
jurov	mixes it with fear from queers adpting children	[02:05]
asciilifeform	'prior to Americans' gay rights agitation, Russian gays used to be called “faggots”; now they are being called “American faggots,” and gay rights in Russia have taken a giant leap back.' - orlov	[02:05]
jurov	and now the nocsense is suddenly presented as fact and i have to convince half of my facebook friends	[02:05]
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jurov	that such "juvenile justice" does not exist	[02:06]
mircea_popescu	jurov you'll have a hard time wiht it.	[02:06]
mircea_popescu	but yes it does exist : the eu state will, under a multitude of pretexts, steal children.	[02:06]
asciilifeform	so perhaps enemy does not bayonet babies and eat them under white sauce. he merely strangles them humanely and reprocesses into Garboil.	[02:07]
asciilifeform	go convince.	[02:07]
jurov	i indeed have a hard time with your insistence that everything out there is an overactive imagination of western journos	[02:07]
jurov	while putin never lied and never will	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	you mean his or mine ?	[02:07]
jurov	both	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	putin is lying every chance he gets, what.	[02:08]
mircea_popescu	how did i end up giving ~that~ impression for crying out loud.	[02:08]
jurov	you dismissed is as mere agitprop	[02:09]
xmj	jurov: I'm ruthless about russian supporters	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	but it's not what i said. i merely remarked on a particular mental complex, wherein the western agitprop calls things they don't like and can't derride "inexistent" a certain way	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	lemme model this. suppose we go out for a picnic, and suppose we're there with some girls, and suppose a cow comes and shits in our cornmeal pot. and suppose one of the girls goes "oh my!"	[02:11]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: it mostly works for the target audience. to most folks in usa, who are literate in no foreign languages, never travel except on official orders, etc. - if not thrown in their face, fact does not exist.	[02:11]
mircea_popescu	me mocking her for the "oh my" lulz doesn't mean i am in favour of cattle shitting in cookpots.	[02:11]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform which is why this is funny.	[02:12]
jurov	anyhow. you both be glad you're living in countries divided by distance and language (more or less) from this shit	[02:12]
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xmj	:\|	[02:12]
jurov	slovakia is mentioned there for a reason	[02:12]
mircea_popescu	jurov you will note in my case this is not happenstance.	[02:12]
xmj	I'm glad I'm living in a country who has a couple of german tornados stationed in it	[02:12]
mircea_popescu	xmj they're allies you know.	[02:13]
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asciilifeform	living where 'this shit' is grown, packaged, and flown out for export is not particularly thrilling either.	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	katyn or auschwitz, what's the big difference.	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform dude imagine for the sake of science fiction, a putin that didn't lie. like, ever. he'd be spotless like warm milk foam.	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	o.o	[02:14]
*	asciilifeform likes to show americans 'the venerable ancient Ukrs' - is almost never believed, even when rubbing their nose in primary source	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	they'd prolly flay him alive just for the cognitive dissonance	[02:14]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: what next, a pope that doesn't lie?	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	popes don't lie, they're just infallible and impeccable.	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	next best thing.	[02:15]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1014 @ 0.00054999 = 0.5577 BTC [-] {2}	[02:17]
jurov	i was just venting my worries that this piece of world might not be safe again... obv mircea's lofty assessment "nah, agitprop" or ascii's urks hair splitting is not interesting to me,sorry	[02:18]
asciilifeform	safe ?	[02:18]
asciilifeform	from what?	[02:19]
asciilifeform	waffen ss? red army ?	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	jurov hey, i don't mind, by all means, go ahead.	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	you're probably right, it's not looking all that good.	[02:20]
jurov	when public space is increasingly and inessantly inundated by conspirations	[02:20]
jurov	that won't end well	[02:20]
asciilifeform	ask the conspirators to quit conspiring. that'd have a chance of fixing.	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	time to split, unless you somehow discover some passion for one side or the other and a desire to go to shooting practice.	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform that's like asking girls aged 16ish to stop giggling. yeah, that's gonna happen	[02:20]
asciilifeform	lol	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	it's not their cunt asking for a tending that's driving the giggling behaviour.	[02:21]
ThickAsThieves	<+mike_c> tea leaves came up empty /// i guess i was probly only paying attention to price at the time, maybe that was the .5 zone, shortly after my comments it totally decoupled	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	it's just, you know... they'r ebored	[02:21]
asciilifeform	as the anglo empires get swept from the stage, the bantustans they created with heroic strokes of pencil will go away. arabian, soviet, wherever.	[02:24]
thestringpuller	;;ud bantustans	[02:24]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bantustan \| Literally: The Ghetto, the Worst of Urban Decay, the hardest of the hard hood. A bantustan (also known as black African homeland or simply homeland...	[02:24]
asciilifeform	if you're czech, slovak, pole - and don't relish idea of learning russian - better learn german.	[02:24]
asciilifeform	or chinese.	[02:24]
mike_c	da fuck with that atlantic article. i tried it in 3 browsers and it crashed them all.	[02:25]
thestringpuller	german is not bad	[02:25]
thestringpuller	chinese looks hard	[02:25]
jurov	there's difference between indigenous conspirations like www.universe-people.com and stuff did by state media	[02:25]
jurov	*done	[02:25]
jurov	and i'm done for today	[02:25]
jurov	later!	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	mike_c that's online media v3.0	[02:26]
asciilifeform	one of the more 'high tech' and interesting 'state media' tricks is to spray on a coating of 'conspiratorial Teflon' to an otherwise genuine piece of dirt	[02:26]
asciilifeform	so it doesn't stick to 'right thinking' heads.	[02:26]
mike_c	the atlantic is trying to steal my bitcoin	[02:26]
asciilifeform	!s crank bait	[02:26]
assbot	3 results for 'crank bait' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=crank+bait	[02:26]
ThickAsThieves	i like that the putin drawing is a scanned bar napkin or sumth	[02:27]
asciilifeform	today is, incidentally, favourite american holiday celebrating this gambit.	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform there's more to this than just that. i've had an intern puit a bunch of trilema articles in reddit, across dozens of different subreddits. NONE stick. they're all "wrong", then the complainants get laughed out, then the matter dies.	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	this teflon phenomenon is a lot deeper.	[02:27]
*	asciilifeform 's favourite subject in this class.	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	there's a long and growing list of things you can do to a text to make it completely inaccessibl for the "right thinking" person.	[02:28]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: there are many applicable 'teflons.'	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	i mean, just a certain tone is enough, subtle subjective positioning is enough	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	"this thing is written as if the soviet party isn't legitimate" < o noes and enough.	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	by now right thinkingness has become an extremely intricate, delicately balanced piece of work	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	western confucianism.	[02:29]
asciilifeform	the example jurov (inadvertently) gave us - is instructive. someone succeeded in 'tefloning' the 'juvenile justice' thing before it entered his brain.	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	i'm still reeling over the realisation that someone, somewhere, thinks im pro russian.	[02:30]
asciilifeform	i doubt anyone could persuade him that phenomenon in question is not a barbaric libel by russian queer-haters.	[02:30]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the 'logic' presumably being, you must 'go with' the humans or the orcs, tertium non datur.	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	sucks for merlin, he who was here when each was born, and will be here to see them buried.	[02:33]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7195 @ 0.00076108 = 5.476 BTC [-] {2}	[02:35]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform anyway, for what it's worth, in my mind the correct approach to this problem is radical, corrosive antiteflon.	[02:35]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: what document worth the mention could get any traction on 'reddit' (today's, not circa '07, say) ?	[02:36]
mircea_popescu	the more people saying nigger and proposing rape as a solution to minute problems, the less effectual this teflon process is.	[02:36]
mircea_popescu	it only works in the first place because of a very narrow overton window achieved over decades of lazy prosperity.	[02:36]
mircea_popescu	that needs to be broken, for general welfare.	[02:36]
mircea_popescu	giving in and being polite even to the slightest degree just feeds the nonsense.	[02:37]
mircea_popescu	in contemporary english, it is the duty of any thinking person to be as offensive as the context will carry.	[02:37]
ThickAsThieves	to what end?	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	freedom, of course.	[02:38]
asciilifeform	in the peanut gallery - they say whatever. 'new york times' - won't say 'rapigger'.	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	anyway, it's why i carry a lot of sympathy for BingoBoingo's legal troubles.	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	seems to me he instinctively applied the correct solution from perhaps an untenable position	[02:39]
asciilifeform	if correct solution could be applied from correct position - problem would be lying dead in a ditch, right along with a few thousand fellow problems, similarly perforated.	[02:39]
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mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves when you confront an organised enemy, your options are two. either beat him but preserve his tools, which locks you into ruling in his stead, or else beat him and destroy his tools, which locks you into rebuilding.	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	there's little worse fate than having to take over and continue using with the present tools.	[02:40]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: limonov had a beautiful discussion of this.	[02:40]
ThickAsThieves	hmm	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	if correct solution could be applied from correct position << true.	[02:40]
ThickAsThieves	i'm not sure if i believe your ideal is more than fleetingly achieved	[02:41]
mircea_popescu	nor orgasm.	[02:41]
ThickAsThieves	heh	[02:41]
ThickAsThieves	i think of it like your movie idea and my ending	[02:42]
BingoBoingo	"Why do you think you can think?"	[02:42]
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ThickAsThieves	fleeting is a lifetime for some, i guess that's good enough	[02:45]
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asciilifeform	'Take a look in History, flip through her pages. The first action in revolutions of recent history -- the erection of barricades. They'll smash the cobble stones of the street, dig them out, and block off the road with them. They'll stop cars, buses, fill the street with bricks. And also they'll attack, plunder, raze, and put to the torch the city hall, administrative buildings, presidential palace, parliamen	[02:46]
asciilifeform	t, shops, warehouses. The crowd has - a correct instinct. It would like to destroy the city - the citadel of power of the political and economic kind - the root cause of its travails. The crowd is stopped in its tracks by those who have plans for the city hall, for the presidential palace. We will not stop the crowd.' (Limonov, 'The Other Russia.') - translation mine.	[02:46]
mircea_popescu	the interesting thing here is that no longer is the city hall the seat of power. the irc channel is the seat of power.	[02:47]
mircea_popescu	which means long supressed passion will finally prevail, in a razing of city halls the world has never seen	[02:48]
mircea_popescu	perhaps not since the razing of ur	[02:48]
mircea_popescu	the bloodiest massacre in human history, a million or so killed over a few weeks.	[02:49]
mircea_popescu	a million before the fiat inflation of human population, back when they still had hard people, and a limited supply worldwide	[02:50]
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penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/lets-translate-a-little-rinduieli-de-marin-sorescu/	[03:01]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: 'Rinduieli' ~= (arabic) 'adat' ?	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	that's datina datini, belive it or not.	[03:08]
asciilifeform	понятия.	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	the difference'd be rinduieli can be rationally defended, datini are not.	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	yeah pony is closer	[03:09]
mircea_popescu	actually it's just about exactly it.	[03:09]
asciilifeform	therewego, cooking with gas.	[03:09]
mircea_popescu	http://33.media.tumblr.com/482efd86111bd9cfe13ee302465639de/tumblr_mz1uqaPhkc1r87wz9o1_1280.jpg << and the spark of life.	[03:09]
asciilifeform	lol!	[03:10]
asciilifeform	is that a 'B' battery ?	[03:10]
asciilifeform	and nice lathework. respekt.	[03:10]
mircea_popescu	obviously a lot of blood, sweat and tears went into that.	[03:11]
asciilifeform	own work ?	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	a no.	[03:12]
asciilifeform	on 2nd look, the blue cylindrical object is a dc motor.	[03:13]
asciilifeform	rotor on bottom, to the right of the lead-screw	[03:14]
asciilifeform	presumably strikes it mid-way through rotation	[03:14]
asciilifeform	or rather, motor only engages when the little rotor touches the screw	[03:15]
asciilifeform	a la old-fashioned school bell.	[03:15]
asciilifeform	to start apparatus, it is presumably given a small clockwise twist while current applied.	[03:15]
asciilifeform	wing nut on lead screw - obviously - sets depth.	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	http://38.media.tumblr.com/db9cc5b867a112993e0f818b7359b3d1/tumblr_mw1zrmojRM1s9tujho1_500.png	[03:17]
asciilifeform	oubliette!	[03:17]
*	asciilifeform is quite confident in the reverse-engineered scheme above.	[03:17]
asciilifeform	except - object on upper side of motor is a commutator.	[03:18]
asciilifeform	so, no twist start needed.	[03:18]
asciilifeform	goes merrily buzzing on power-up.	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	a well designed little apparatus.	[03:18]
asciilifeform	the fellow who built it may or may not have been a tattooist in russian prison.	[03:19]
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asciilifeform	typical scheme of apparatus used there.	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	just about.	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	http://38.media.tumblr.com/f26ac8f8aaa82ec58ed70e3976dfe457/tumblr_mvqutdrHlR1sq388oo1_400.gif << and here's stoya, doing what she does (ie, setting the mark for performance)	[03:19]
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*	asciilifeform wonders - anyone else awake? and had alternate interpretation of gadget pictured earlier?	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	if previously awake - now busy.	[03:21]
asciilifeform	lol	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	speaking of which... brb	[03:21]
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thestringpuller	asciilifeform: do you think there is a way to have an externally chargeable battery as "save" battery on video game cartridges	[03:30]
asciilifeform	thestringpuller: as described earlier	[03:31]
asciilifeform	thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2014#821825	[03:31]
thestringpuller	so external ports long with the leads? I'm not well versed in electrical engineering unfortunately.	[03:31]
assbot	Logged on 07-09-2014 18:52:57; asciilifeform: it doesn't have to be a coin cell, either. can attach one of, say, these - http://www.ictradenet.com/models_pic/BH2AA-W.jpg - to outside of cartridge. drill a hole, attach terminals to correct spots. won't win any beauty contests, but will work.	[03:31]
asciilifeform	snip off original battery holder, note where '+' and '-' were.	[03:32]
thestringpuller	as long as same voltage etc.?	[03:32]
asciilifeform	solder red lead from battery box to '+', black to '-'. first thread wires through hole in chassic (electric drill)	[03:32]
asciilifeform	origial was 'cr2032' ?	[03:32]
asciilifeform	*original	[03:33]
thestringpuller	yes. most probably unless this specific cartridge was an outlier.	[03:33]
asciilifeform	use two lithium (specifically) aa batteries in a common series holder (as pictured.)	[03:34]
thestringpuller	i'm terrified of modifying because this is a cartridge that appreciates in value due to rarity or something	[03:34]
asciilifeform	if kept as collectible - seal it in a bag under nitrogen, why would you play it.	[03:35]
thestringpuller	LOL	[03:35]
thestringpuller	you speak truth	[03:35]
thestringpuller	i should just buy a Wii-U and get the downloadable version to play for 15 bucks	[03:36]
thestringpuller	seal the original cart in a bag	[03:36]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: 'muiere' ~= engl. 'give head' ?	[03:55]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/localbitcoins-making-bitcoin-easier/	[03:57]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform it just means woman. most speakers wouldn't notice the relation and im probably going to get inundated with hatemail in the morn	[04:16]
asciilifeform	lulz	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	it's an older term, mostly disused, ever so slightly derrogatory.	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	it's vulgar latin, from mulieris.	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	suppoisedly sucking cock (a da [la] muie, contracted to muie) comes from gypsy language, where muie means mouth.	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	but this distinction is you know, what you make of it.	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	the notion that romanian borrowed anything whatsoever from romales is beyond ridiculous anyway. maybe took back whatever the gypos stole at some point, and that at the very most.	[04:20]
asciilifeform	http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490&cpage=1#comment-16768 << great masters of not-getting-the-point, at work	[04:24]
assbot	Loper OS » Practical Blockchain Telegraphy.	[04:24]
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punkman	I was playing a bit at moneypot.com (dice thingy), then I saw this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709185.msg8776834#msg8776834	[04:38]
assbot	MoneyPot.com -- The Social Gambling Game	[04:38]
punkman	is this a scam? "Look there's a fucking system!"	[04:39]
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cazalla	damn, moneypot hooks you instantly	[04:52]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform using addresses to encode satisfies your criteria, it doesn't have to be amounts	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	which is why the b-a deeds system will use addresses rather than amounts.	[05:32]
asciilifeform	need certain amounts to avoid getting dust-collected.	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	hm?	[05:33]
asciilifeform	can't send nil	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	sure, gotta send some btc.	[05:33]
asciilifeform	or less than $dust lower bound	[05:33]
asciilifeform	plus programmatic generation of addrs with reasonably-secure private keys is gnarly.	[05:34]
asciilifeform	(you want the privates if you want the recycling-loop.)	[05:34]
asciilifeform	*usefully encoded addrs with reasonably secure privates	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	sure, its not free.	[05:36]
asciilifeform	my understanding is that for your application, the payload is very small, and 'shooting coin into the sun' in an open loop system - suffices.	[05:36]
asciilifeform	(garbage dest. address)	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	it's not clear that wasting the tx fees for a very narrow space (ie, the amt) is actually cheaper than wasting the min tx for wider space (the address	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, a discussion for other times!	[05:38]
asciilifeform	when blasting into garbage addr, still have to include fee	[05:38]
asciilifeform	so necessarily - costlier.	[05:38]
asciilifeform	but yes, wider space...	[05:39]
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mircea_popescu	makes 2 of us :)	[05:39]
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asciilifeform	one caveat with using addresses - 'decoder' must not rely on the garbage addr's balance never moving on own volition. one might, at any time, end up producing an addr to which someone has a key.	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	kinda the idea, yea.	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	anyway, tomorrow!	[05:43]
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mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes: just woke up from the post bang nap << gangbang ? pics ?	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes: not "which" python << lol you hear that zing asciilifeform ?	[14:54]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c: more like shit that can go wrong while making sense of the request itself. grep nginx changelogs for the last four years for plentiful examples << but not the same can be said of apache, because those 4 years are in 1988, and consequently not on the "internet". which makes the point about "newer is better" in spades.	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	also mike, sometime do some anal on the correlation between s.mpoe and http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ another fucking random variable right there	[14:56]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets stats	[14:56]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c: i printed out the source code 3 years ago and i retype it into each server i want to run nginx on to ensure no problems. << laugh all oyu will but when i was a kid this was exactly how you did it.	[14:57]
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mircea_popescu	http://33.media.tumblr.com/6836b6d0201ddcc9f42aedb1c10779fd/tumblr_mmtic3HdIk1qb5ov1o1_500.gif << this is not safe to watch.	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo: http://deadspin << why not comment on bitbet ?	[15:00]
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mircea_popescu	"If no one comes from the future to stop you from doing it, then how bad of a decision can it really be?"	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:13]
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mircea_popescu	lmao romanians are total fuckwits. so : in 2008, the pressure on local journalism university programmes was 6-7 teenagers per place. five years later, two thirds of local media outlets went out of business, aggregate local media audience dropped to a third (not by a third!) and virtually all professional journalists that were clueless enough to have been left started streetwalking on the side.	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	the result ? pressure increased to 8 kids per place.	[15:57]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I was hoping some people might try to guess the extent of the injuries. I dun think this late in the season it really affects his MVP chances. Dude has a solid lead on that.	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	o, actually ?	[16:55]
mircea_popescu	i'm iiignorant, i thought it was the kiss o' death	[16:56]
rithm	one thing i've always disliked about xchat (or my setup) is that it doesn't log nick highlights	[16:56]
BingoBoingo	Well there isn't much season left and he's been that dominant. Prolly out until next year at least though. Lacerations, broken bones, broken teeth reported this morning...	[16:56]
rithm	my channel status changes, but i have to search the buffer and I'm too lazy for that	[16:57]
BingoBoingo	If it would have happened last month he'd be out of the race. Happening this month... Prolly too late to derail.	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	what do you mean doesn't log them	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo is mvp a purely technical measurement like batting average or is it a voted/popularity contest ?	[16:59]
BingoBoingo	It's a voted thing the people with the best measurements usually win, but some years it gets controversial	[17:00]
BingoBoingo	Usually it is the guys with better numbers beating popular guys	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	well in that case injury after solid performance is by far the best he could do	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	better than sustained solid performance even	[17:01]
BingoBoingo	Seems so.	[17:01]
punkman	possible namecheap alternative: https://www.namesilo.com/	[17:05]
punkman	looks decent, no design derpage	[17:06]
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BingoBoingo	It seems like with Stanton's lead in the Home Run race, he could still finish the season with the most.	[17:08]
BingoBoingo	http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140912072316	[17:11]
assbot	Energy-efficient bcrypt cracking	[17:11]
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ThickAsThieves	http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/12/us-usa-bitcoin-cftc-idUSKBN0H71FU20140912	[17:13]
assbot	Bitcoin gets boost as U.S. watchdog approves first swap\| Reuters	[17:13]
penguirker	New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/09/12/architecture-in-riga/	[17:15]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves myeah.	[17:16]
ThickAsThieves	http://i.imgur.com/17rR3VI.jpg	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	ahahahaha no wai	[17:18]
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mod6	hahah	[17:20]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.feedyes.com/premium.php	[17:22]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.feedyes.com	[17:22]
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pete_dushenski	howdy!	[17:26]
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pete_dushenski	logging up for 2 days ago...	[17:28]
RagnarDanneskjol	hiya pete - how goes the trip	[17:28]
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pete_dushenski	heya RagnarDanneskjol! back home safe and sound now.	[17:29]
pete_dushenski	trip was just right	[17:29]
pete_dushenski	not too big, not too small	[17:29]
RagnarDanneskjol	nice - a little travel can go a long way if done right	[17:30]
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pete_dushenski	mhm	[17:31]
mircea_popescu	hey pete	[17:31]
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pete_dushenski	hey mircea_popescu	[17:32]
pete_dushenski	how goes the battle?	[17:32]
rithm	dj battle, rap battle, dance crew battle?	[17:33]
pete_dushenski	nubbins`: Raymonds Restaurant << colour me intrigued!	[17:33]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski great lol, reading the ro derpage of some guy explaining everyone how trilema is dead because "it has no comments"	[17:34]
mircea_popescu	it's funny to contemplate how many doods hate me, and for what endless sort of terms.	[17:34]
mircea_popescu	!up PeterL__	[17:34]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: sounds like a blast :)	[17:35]
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PeterL__	don't mind me, just lurking	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	lurk away.	[17:35]
pete_dushenski	considering that i can think of few personal blogs with more comments...	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski dude is giving himself as an example. the funny thing is that wordpress has a comment index, trilema is over 100k, his blog was 5k, but hey. HE rules.	[17:36]
mircea_popescu	anyway, yes, im entertained. and riga looks great, nobody thinks of it as a vacation destination, but i don't recall ever hating it there.	[17:36]
pete_dushenski	common question upon return:	[17:37]
pete_dushenski	"why latvia?"	[17:37]
xmj	pete_dushenski: why not?	[17:37]
pete_dushenski	answer: "because i hadn't been there"	[17:37]
xmj	that sounds like me.	[17:38]
mircea_popescu	well yeah, they all want to go to ibiza, because "everyne goes there"	[17:38]
pete_dushenski	plus, legal prostitution, eu standard of living, cheaper than west/central eu	[17:38]
mircea_popescu	you know where everyone really goes ? to the fucking toilet. what reason to pick a vacation in the bathroom is that!	[17:38]
pete_dushenski	everyone here goes to vegas, mexico, etc. just to get pissed	[17:39]
pete_dushenski	thailand too, i suppose	[17:39]
pete_dushenski	but that's not even just the kids, most "adults" from here as well	[17:40]
pete_dushenski	but there's enough immigrants here that there's some worldliness if you look for it	[17:41]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: and yes, the bathroom is "#1 hotspot"	[17:41]
pete_dushenski	and ty to mircea_popescu and ThickAsThieves for the kind comments :)	[17:42]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski seriously tho, that's when it begins, when the blog's a tool of self expression.	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	"here's how i'd say this, here's how i'd write this, and here's how i'd blog this"	[17:43]
pete_dushenski	hm yes, that rings true	[17:44]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: jesus canucks are tought. << lol at least the ones here	[17:47]
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mircea_popescu	!up ziggla	[17:47]
-assbot-	You voiced ziggla for 30 minutes.	[17:47]
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mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski you got you work cut for you now, what is it, 5 days of logs ?	[17:48]
ziggla	thanks mirc	[17:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00076334 = 17.8622 BTC [+]	[17:49]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: i was keeping up until the 16 hours of flights and subsequent catching up with people/work	[17:49]
pete_dushenski	on the 10th nao	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	a not so bad	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	ziggla sure. who're you ?	[17:49]
ziggla	a bitbet user	[17:50]
ziggla	who are you?	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	a bitbet owner.	[17:50]
ziggla	ha ok	[17:50]
ThickAsThieves	heh	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	lol i'm going to die as the lord of repartee	[17:50]
ThickAsThieves	dealer meets user	[17:50]
ziggla	maybe you can clarify something for me	[17:51]
mircea_popescu	shoot	[17:51]
ziggla	i'm confused about this silk road bet	[17:51]
ziggla	when do we find out?	[17:51]
ThickAsThieves	never it seems	[17:51]
mircea_popescu	a that sore spot. well ideally we find out once the usg finally and publicly admits to having been owned, painfully and humiliatingly.	[17:51]
ziggla	lol	[17:52]
ThickAsThieves	see you shoulda just let me make the schrodinger bet	[17:52]
ThickAsThieves	at least that wouldve resolved	[17:52]
ziggla	when will they admit?	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	but unideally, i will just unilaterally decide one side, and that will be what happened,	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	irrespective of what the usg may falsely or accurately claim afterwards.	[17:53]
ziggla	you will just decide?	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	yea.	[17:53]
ziggla	why don't you just cancel the whole thing if we don't find out?	[17:53]
ziggla	seems like a big risk	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	because the bet exists.	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	the risk exists, but it lies with the usg.	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	if it doesn't want to have to lie later, it better tell the truth now.	[17:54]
ziggla	i don't get it	[17:54]
ziggla	what would it lie about/?	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	what price it sold the btc.	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	after i make a decision, if their claims contradict that decision... they're lieing.	[17:54]
ThickAsThieves	ziggla needs to know your version of the truth here	[17:54]
ziggla	but i don't see the purpose of them lying	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	well i don't have one.	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	last fucking thing i want is to play the oracle for bureaucracies	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	ziggla that's kinda what they do, tbh.	[17:55]
ziggla	ha	[17:55]
ThickAsThieves	<+ziggla> but i don't see the purpose of them lying /// are you like 11yo?	[17:55]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: can you normally tell what's wrong with you, if something's wrong, and what food item was the cause, if you're sick ? << hilarious when people get food poisoning, blame it on last meal they ate, ignorant of bacteria with >1 week incubation periods (e. coli, listeria, etc.)	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	anyway, what's the purpose of not publishing it afterwards ? after all that lead-up and promissory behaviour, o noes, we will ruin btc lalal.	[17:55]
ThickAsThieves	there's always a purpose to lying	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski if you stfu and listen to your body, you can generally tell.	[17:56]
pete_dushenski	and that they probably cross-contaminated something at home or at friend's house, not restaurant.	[17:56]
ThickAsThieves	and always a lie to tell	[17:56]
ziggla	seems easiest to not play oracle if you don't have to make any decisions about your thoughts of the usg if the bet is just cancelled	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	ziggla the difference is that you perceive this theoretical 3rd way, of "cancelling bets". i don't.	[17:56]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: perhaps you can, perhaps i can, perhaps other cannot	[17:57]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski it definitely doesn't work 100%, sure.	[17:57]
ziggla	i'm sure bets have been cancelled on bitbet before	[17:57]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: people just wanna blame someone or something else anyways, eg. the joo	[17:57]
ThickAsThieves	bets have been cancelled	[17:57]
ThickAsThieves	rare tho	[17:57]
mircea_popescu	ziggla not that many, and not usually in a contention.	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	generally a bet gets cancelled early on, cause w/e, it was miswritten	[17:58]
PeterL__	didn't somebody submit a foia request for the price? have they still not heard back?	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	but there's a legitimate contention here, no way to cancel.	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	PeterL__ multiple people. the 30 day term has been exceeded. by 50+ days.	[17:58]
ThickAsThieves	the USMS acknowledged they have had many public inquiries as to the info	[17:58]
ThickAsThieves	and said theyd give a statement early Aug	[17:58]
ThickAsThieves	that never happened	[17:58]
ziggla	yes, so we wait for them to release this info	[17:58]
ziggla	but they haven't	[17:59]
ziggla	just wonderring how long we wait	[17:59]
PeterL__	rules are for the peons	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	ziggla can't wait forever, obviously. but the alternative is imo worse.	[17:59]
ThickAsThieves	so now a few people have FOIA requests pending	[17:59]
ThickAsThieves	as you can see with the latet NYDFS update	[17:59]
ThickAsThieves	,	[17:59]
ziggla	it's pretty easy to cancel imo	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	PeterL__ it's funny you know because they walked right into it, they were all "o we hve a pr stragety, here's how we'll crush bitcoin's image lalal"	[17:59]
ThickAsThieves	USG isnt really giving info feedback on bitcoin anything	[17:59]
ziggla	sorry folks, this bet is unresolvable. usg won't release the info. it has been 3 months. we will refund the bets.	[18:00]
ziggla	seems easy enough	[18:00]
ThickAsThieves	it is resolvable	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	ziggla well in that sense driving into the wall is easy, just turn the weel and push the gas.	[18:00]
ThickAsThieves	it is merely unresolved	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	running a business doing that is a lot harder	[18:00]
PeterL__	reminds me of interacting with the IRS "Please submit this info within 3 days or else huge fine, expect a response in 12-16 weeks, maybe"	[18:00]
ThickAsThieves	yeah pretty much	[18:00]
ziggla	yes, it is resolvable. i wish the USG would just cooperate so we can know	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	PeterL__ i still regret no judge made their email thing precendent. "from now on, an y taxpayer may just pretend they lost the emails"	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	ziggla makes 2 of us	[18:01]
ThickAsThieves	NYDFS needs 3mos to fabricate the bitcoin research they said they already did	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	or whatever, 50 million	[18:01]
ThickAsThieves	USMS needs more apparently to fabricate a reality where whatever story they give about the auction will seem true	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	personally, i'm waiting for the drama bubble to pop.	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	drama bubble?	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	very good drama in the whole auction thing. lots and lots.	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	just need someone to get it together and leak the emails and sutff already	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	dont the losers deserve to know?	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	totally.	[18:02]
ziggla	mircea, just curious what you think the price was in case you decide to resolve the bet rather than an official release from USMS	[18:02]
ziggla	i'd like to know if i stand to win or not	[18:03]
ziggla	i also don't agree with that methodology either way	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	ziggla i have nfi yet. i deliberately avoided the topic, because why prejudge	[18:03]
ziggla	justc curious	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	anyway, if you're curiuous re precedent, the bfl scammers put 500 btc on a delivery bet early on in bitbet's history	[18:03]
ThickAsThieves	i used to be sure he overpaid, but he was so fukn tightlipped to every direct question on the price	[18:04]
mircea_popescu	then they failed to deliver but tried to claim that "it's unresolvable"	[18:04]
mircea_popescu	some scamsites working with them to help them skewer noobs aquiesced, which ruined their reputation. bitbet did not.	[18:04]
ThickAsThieves	its just "off", this auction	[18:04]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves if nothing else, there's going to be an investor report, not like he's mp spending his own money.	[18:04]
ThickAsThieves	does that other bet site exist anymore?	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	arguably.	[18:05]
ThickAsThieves	or did they just reskin to betmoose?	[18:05]
ziggla	500 btc is different than like 7 btc. the silk road bet isn't for much. don't think tim draper or the usms is scamming newbs on bitbet here	[18:05]
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mircea_popescu	ziggla its not really germane, when discussing precedent. and yes, i do think usms is scamming.	[18:05]
ziggla	so if they are going to lie and scam, you think they will try to inflate the price they received?	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves afaik betmoose is the attempt to "prove me wrong" of some guy that was pissed that i despise the "marketplace model"	[18:06]
ziggla	that's the only point of lying i see	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	ziggla it's complicated.	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	originally it was going to be "nobody wanted to bid so we just gave it to our friends to help us "enforce" price policy"	[18:06]
ThickAsThieves	they also have an asston more coin to sell	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	but then that fell through. now, how exactly it fell through... it's not clear.	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves so they claim.	[18:07]
ziggla	interesting	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	so far, it's unclear they've even delivered this batch	[18:07]
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ThickAsThieves	they did at least transmit coins	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	maybe.	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	someone moved some coins.	[18:07]
ThickAsThieves	right	[18:07]
ziggla	pretty sure the transaction to tim draper was confirmed	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	ziggla confirmed, how ?	[18:07]
ziggla	i thought i saw articles	[18:07]
ThickAsThieves	he never signed from the waller	[18:07]
ThickAsThieves	t	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	ziggla your standard of proof may be weak.	[18:08]
ziggla	i guess i haven't looked into it too closely	[18:08]
ThickAsThieves	not that he has an identity to prove it	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	that's kinda the problem, noobs wanna pretend like they're playing this crypto currency game.	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	except they want to do it with clay pots.	[18:08]
ziggla	at the end of the day, rather than wait potentially forever for a small profit or loss, i'd prefer to just receive my bet money back. it's just a long wait and i have no other bitcoins to bet so i can't even place more bets that i'd like to right now.	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	i hear you.	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	if you will, take solace in the concept that a fiat investment arrived in contention can trivially lock your funds for a decade+	[18:10]
ThickAsThieves	i know i'm biased, but i cant look at the betmoose web design long enough to attempt using it	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	and we're not even a year in here.	[18:10]
artifexd	and said theyd give a statement early Aug << Maybe they did give a statement. They held a press conference on the back loading dock at 3 am on a Tuesday and forgot to call the press... or anybody.	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	that's not giving.	[18:11]
ThickAsThieves	nah they have a feed for PR	[18:11]
ThickAsThieves	right on the website	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	when was the auction again ? june wasn't it ?	[18:11]
ThickAsThieves	announced may i think	[18:12]
ThickAsThieves	i forget	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	yeah they announced draper like 1st of july	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	so they should have responded by 1st of august	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	thern they said they'll break the law, but do it by end of august	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	and here's semptember.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	anyway, it's also possible someone sued, which is frequent in these auctions	[18:12]
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mircea_popescu	the auction won't be settled until all claims are resolved.	[18:12]
asciilifeform	only way the truth (tm) comes out is if more than a few of the players involved are thoroughly pwned, rooted, results trotted out.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform being worked on i hear.	[18:13]
asciilifeform	and even then only if the culprits hanged upside down, wired to the mains by the balls, and admit the data genuine.	[18:13]
ziggla	OK. well maybe if it's not solved for like 5 years and i end up winning it will be worth a lot more at that time	[18:13]
ziggla	bitbet is like a bank	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	ziggla this was said before.	[18:14]
ziggla	but i guess then i have to trust bitbet will remain solvent and hold my coins securely	[18:14]
ziggla	which is kind of worrisome, no offense	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	in principle, if your credit / wot ratings are good, you should be able to use the proof of holding the bet you made as collateral with a gpg contract	[18:14]
ThickAsThieves	auction announced june 13 ftr	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	i see no impediment to this secondary market developing, rather than forcing me to do stupid shit.	[18:14]
ThickAsThieves	held on Jun 27	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves yeah that's it.	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	ziggla bitbet isn't going anywhere.	[18:15]
ThickAsThieves	<+ziggla> which is kind of worrisome, no offense /// insult is the sincerest compliment	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	i ain't insulted lol	[18:16]
ziggla	i don't think any credit agency or bank would take my funds on bitbet as a securely held asset of mine.	[18:16]
kakobrekla	!s bitbet audit	[18:16]
assbot	10 results for 'bitbet audit' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitbet+audit	[18:16]
ziggla	maybe if we had a GSA or something	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	ziggla a bitcoin bank might.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	if you knew one / one existed.	[18:16]
kakobrekla	ziggla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-04-2014#608481	[18:17]
assbot	Logged on 07-04-2014 20:18:41; bitcoinpete_: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/results-of-first-bitbet-audit-april-7-2014/	[18:17]
ThickAsThieves	btcjam would	[18:17]
ThickAsThieves	;)	[18:17]
ziggla	i guess in my opinion the most fair result is to just cancel/refund the bets at a certain point. prefer not to wait forever	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	well yeah, but sadly things can't always work the way we'd like them to.	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	the arabs want women that stay virgins, never bleed and are made of translucent flesh	[18:18]
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mircea_popescu	!up ziggla	[18:18]
-assbot-	You voiced ziggla for 30 minutes.	[18:18]
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ziggla	ha. i think its pretty easy to make them work that way	[18:18]
ziggla	but i guess it should be what the masses want	[18:19]
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ziggla	i am flexible, just want everyone to be happy and feel satisfied	[18:19]
ThickAsThieves	ever considered a porn career?	[18:20]
ziggla	yes	[18:20]
ziggla	but i have a small penis	[18:20]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[18:20]
ThickAsThieves	!b 5	[18:21]
assbot	Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/03MAB12.txt )	[18:21]
ziggla	maybe there's a role out there for us dudes with 3 inch cocks	[18:21]
ThickAsThieves	sry	[18:21]
asciilifeform	not everyone on the stage needs one at all...	[18:21]
ThickAsThieves	there surely is a role	[18:21]
ziggla	its wide like a soup can though	[18:21]
ThickAsThieves	Soupcan Sue	[18:21]
ziggla	maybe can make a bit. Will ziggla get a role in a porn movie by June 2015?	[18:22]
ThickAsThieves	there's your porn name	[18:22]
ziggla	i'd probably bet no	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	ziggla> but i have a small penis << this is no impediment, so does stoya	[18:22]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: why not just buy shipping containers then. not so expensive, can be stacked... << http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/01/30/shipping-container-house-vancouver_n_4697469.html	[18:22]
ziggla	and if i lost, i'd still win cause at least i'd be in a porn movie	[18:22]
assbot	Shipping Container Housing Community To Grow In Vancouver	[18:22]
ziggla	who is stoya	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	!s stoya	[18:22]
assbot	16 results for 'stoya' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=stoya	[18:22]
ziggla	pretty sure there's a female pornstar named stoya	[18:23]
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ThickAsThieves	oh those reading vids are great	[18:24]
kakobrekla	here we have an ugly one called 'la toya'	[18:24]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: fiberglass toxic << yes << just insulation or… canoe?	[18:24]
ThickAsThieves	http://hystericalliterature.com/stoya/	[18:24]
asciilifeform	re: container houses piece << classic chumpatron. put up steel container on empty lot to live in -> illegal, confiscated. bezzlamatic cuts costs for self by using shipping containers (painted to look like house) -> 'amazing company, innovators!'	[18:24]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[18:24]
ThickAsThieves	lol https://www.betmoose.com/bet/bitcoin-cryptography-broken-in-2015-791	[18:24]
assbot	Bitcoin Cryptography Broken in 2015 - BetMoose	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform quite	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves thing got rejected on bitbet recently i think ?	[18:25]
ThickAsThieves	hilarious, if Yes, then your winnings are worthless	[18:26]
ziggla	i just went to that bitmooose site. it's lol	[18:27]
ziggla	betmoose*	[18:27]
asciilifeform	in any and all anglo-reich tendrils, a house is required to cost at least 2-3 years of the expected occupant's entire wage. break this rule, they break your neck.	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform recall the case of the people making that very cheap wholly natural house, being ordered to destroy it ?	[18:29]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: 2-3? more like 5-7	[18:29]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: 2-3 around here	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	was based on some high fiction popular work, the hobbit or w/e	[18:29]
asciilifeform	http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/eco-friendly-hobbit-house-must-demolished-3931069	[18:30]
assbot	Eco-friendly 'Hobbit house' must be DEMOLISHED as council rules it illegal - Mirror Online	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	^	[18:30]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: lol hobbits… so about that fiberglass toxicity?	[18:30]
pete_dushenski	fiberglass has applications and uses outside of insulation	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	it's not relly toxic, more like noxious. the glass itself is harmless silica, but the shape it has allows it to mechanically breach the skin,	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	and cause lung and respiratory tract serious issues	[18:31]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: loose fibers. itchy.	[18:31]
pete_dushenski	like asbestos then	[18:31]
asciilifeform	precisely like asbestos (which the fiberglass makers had banned)	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	no, asbestos is toxic.	[18:31]
pete_dushenski	and ya, itchy dusty bits are no bueno	[18:31]
asciilifeform	no prizes for guessing why they banned	[18:31]
asciilifeform	asbestos is inert	[18:31]
ziggla	ha i see that betmoose site cancelled the silk road bet. hmmmmm	[18:31]
asciilifeform	but irritating mechanically, just like fiberglass	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform from what i know it actually is not, and seems to trigger a type of lung cancer in some people	[18:32]
asciilifeform	no need for poison to trigger cancer	[18:32]
asciilifeform	just churn cell inventory in an organ ahead of schedule	[18:32]
asciilifeform	whittle telomeres.	[18:32]
mircea_popescu	so mesothelioma ?	[18:32]
asciilifeform	that's how.	[18:32]
mircea_popescu	i guess thios is true, after all. protective cover.	[18:32]
mircea_popescu	hm. well til.	[18:32]
mircea_popescu	ty :)	[18:33]
ThickAsThieves	wow i'd rage if they tore down my hobbit home	[18:34]
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mircea_popescu	"this is my house where i go to play with my graphs!"	[18:35]
ThickAsThieves	it had been up years by the time	[18:35]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	ziggla so what do you do, other than betting all your coins ?	[18:36]
ThickAsThieves	how can one troll without a troll house?!	[18:36]
asciilifeform	in totalitarian reich, it's not 'your' home and they aren't 'your' children	[18:36]
asciilifeform	both belong to the state-god-emperor.	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	or so the imperial dream goes.	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	back when i was a kid, you had to try and imagine what the inquisition looked like. nowadays, you just need to check out "porn" http://31.media.tumblr.com/101eab0b3b90b3fe81916c5e95ea962a/tumblr_mr66avsy7w1s3rid7o1_1280.jpg	[18:37]
asciilifeform	aka 'community', 'the people', whatever name-of-the-day.	[18:38]
ThickAsThieves	homeland	[18:38]
asciilifeform	vaterland.	[18:38]
asciilifeform	most you can hope to own, in original sense of that word, is - your arse. and that's only if you abscond with it before someone finds a better use (e.g., biodiesel.)	[18:38]
ThickAsThieves	mother and father are confused now, so best to avoid engendering words	[18:38]
asciilifeform	what a terrible chop job	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	"the departament of motherland security"	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you tihnk ?	[18:39]
asciilifeform	who does the bottom half belong to?	[18:40]
asciilifeform	'gladiator' ?	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	if this particular shot is fake, which i guess is possible, the thing still exists and i've seen it before.	[18:40]
asciilifeform	every time i see the bed of nails i think of the soviet caricature	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	anyway, if you reject my bed of nails, here's a domestic black servant girl as a replacement. http://31.media.tumblr.com/6d2383b64bd6de9018e867b5aaf31633/tumblr_mxmms3ViO51s65rzwo2_250.gif http://31.media.tumblr.com/e2b0e7664e2e4d64c5a4d8352c9d0bfa/tumblr_mxmms3ViO51s65rzwo1_250.gif http://38.media.tumblr.com/4d6b7bd5912313cf6ceda23ca4a442de/tumblr_mxmms3ViO51s65rzwo3_250.gif http://38.media.tumblr.com/fac9f44da82f3a48	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	33fceac722353afd/tumblr_mxmms3ViO51s65rzwo4_250.gif	[18:41]
asciilifeform	n00b goes to india to learn yoga (the -real- yoga, that lets you take a day's break from breathing and talk to the gods, in imagination of homo sovieticus)	[18:41]
asciilifeform	he finds the guru, sitting on the mandatory bed-o-nails	[18:42]
cazalla	that image looks like a screencap from an insex video	[18:42]
asciilifeform	guru gets up, leads n00b to a plank with a single very sharp nail.	[18:42]
asciilifeform	'you gotta start small.'	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	ah the "first one ?"	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	cazalla im pretty sure it's the armory repackaged by insex.	[18:42]
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pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: twould be grand if life could go on without condoms << well, this is sort of the way life starts, y'know?	[18:46]
pete_dushenski	and weren't you all "i dunno about $conference because bun in oven?" a few months ago?	[18:46]
pete_dushenski	;;later tell ben_vulpes ^	[18:46]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:46]
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pete_dushenski	mthreat: has mircea_popescu been to vancouver recently? http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/so-thats-what-they-meant-by-the-beast-will-rise-up << teh lulz!	[18:49]
assbot	A Statue Of Satan With A Huge Erection Has Appeared In Vancouver For Some Reason	[18:49]
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ThickAsThieves	http://freeross.org/ulbricht-defense-calls-for-evidentiary-hearing-re-server/	[18:53]
assbot	Ulbricht Defense calls for Evidentiary Hearing to Resolve Server question \| Free Ross Ulbricht	[18:53]
asciilifeform	'A simple “no” in answer to questions regarding NSA involvement could end the controversy. The government’s failure to answer generates a presumption that either “no” would not be a candid response or the prosecutors do not know the answer.'	[18:54]
asciilifeform	all usg needs to do is say 'no' ?	[18:55]
asciilifeform	and everyone will be convinced, yes.	[18:55]
ThickAsThieves	yeah that bothered me too	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	lol i'm not satan!	[18:56]
ThickAsThieves	parallel parallel construction?	[18:56]
ThickAsThieves	USG might be that meta!	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves caught in their own web of parallels.	[18:56]
chetty	lol i'm not satan!// just his little brother	[18:59]
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mircea_popescu	just because i'm old doesn't mean i'm involved with all the jewish agitprop :D	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	see jurov ?	[19:05]
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pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: teh jooz run everything. cept bitcoin << tell that to goldberg ;) trilema.com/2014/the-sharp-friar-and-the-golden-jew-discuss-your-options/	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	http://beranger.org/ludditus/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/logo.png << who knows this dog ?	[19:27]
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pete_dushenski	https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/510466545014046720	[19:36]
assbot	Enjoyed /PeterDiamandis' talk last night. Can't wait for him to join the Bitcoin fray, starting with bitcoin-assets: http://t.co/bsMbRCfy9J	[19:36]
asciilifeform	'Passionate about innovation and creating a world of Abundance.' << lol!	[19:37]
pete_dushenski	yil: diamandis is an asteroid mining, spacexing, self-proclaimed "capitalist libertarians" who is a big believer in bitcoin and is going to be launching a bitcoin something soon	[19:38]
asciilifeform	chap should get on with drowning honourably aboard a seastead or stfu...	[19:39]
*	asciilifeform intensely allergic to 'silicon valley' state religion.	[19:39]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: lol ya and he's pro-gmo because "no one hurt yet"	[19:40]
asciilifeform	once you utter 'pro-' or 'anti-gmo' you're swallowed the stupid pill.	[19:41]
pete_dushenski	also: "wait until you see what the third world invents when they get internet access"	[19:41]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: how do you figure? re gmo	[19:41]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2014#800342	[19:42]
assbot	Logged on 18-08-2014 16:08:14; asciilifeform: gmo foods << a term annoying as all hell. there are no 'gmo foods	[19:42]
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pete_dushenski	lab-modified-foods then?	[19:43]
asciilifeform	focusing on the fact of modification, rather than specific purpose, is idiotic.	[19:44]
pete_dushenski	naively engineered top-down slop?	[19:44]
pete_dushenski	so is calling bitcoin crypto-currency	[19:44]
asciilifeform	the only extant commercial mods are - to help the plant resist megatonnes of poisonous crud poured on top.	[19:44]
pete_dushenski	so is calling a crossover vehicle a truck	[19:44]
pete_dushenski	also aridity	[19:45]
asciilifeform	it's precisely like calling bitcoin a 'crypto-currency', as if there were other similar apparatus worth mentioning, sitting on the shelf next to it.	[19:45]
pete_dushenski	right. ok so let's clean up the language and go with "lmo"	[19:47]
pete_dushenski	;;ud lmo	[19:47]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=LMO \| LMO. Acronym of the phrase 'Let's Move On'. Most commonly used in three contexts: 1. To express the idea of accepting an event 2. To change the topic of ...	[19:47]
pete_dushenski	lol fitting	[19:47]
pete_dushenski	;;ud gmo	[19:47]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gmo \| 1. genetically modified orgasm. 2. to have a fake orgasm. "I just found out my girlfriend has been GMOing on me." "Jenna Jameson is the queen of GMOing.".	[19:47]
pete_dushenski	jenna's up there all right	[19:47]
asciilifeform	american propaganda schools have an interesting term of art,	[19:47]
asciilifeform	'teaching the controversy'	[19:47]
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asciilifeform	once you've been 'taught the controversy' - that is, convincing that there -even is- reasonable debate among informed people, on a particular subject - the lie becomes a kind of half-truth, automagically	[19:48]
asciilifeform	because suddenly, there is (or you think there is) a debate. with 'sides.'	[19:48]
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asciilifeform	(at least two! of which the artist controls at least 1...)	[19:48]
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pete_dushenski	myeah. or both	[19:49]
pete_dushenski	but i must be going. cheers b-a!	[19:49]
asciilifeform	if controversy is manufactured from whole cloth, in empty space, then typically - both.	[19:49]
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asciilifeform	https://twitter.com/PeterDiamandis << revolting spam. mega-vomit.	[19:50]
assbot	Peter Diamandis (PeterDiamandis) \| Twitter	[19:50]
ThickAsThieves	"Want to become a billionaire? Then find a way to help a billion people."	[19:51]
asciilifeform	there's not a single post where the 'parody horizon' isn't crossed or at least approached...	[19:52]
asciilifeform	there are more people who miss required classes in marx-leninism than there ever will be people who will miss the silicon valley crapolade.	[19:53]
ThickAsThieves	a salesman is but a caricature	[19:53]
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ThickAsThieves	http://www.coindesk.com/tim-draper-bitcoins-price-still-headed-10k/	[19:56]
assbot	Tim Draper: Bitcoin's Price Still Headed to $10k	[19:56]
ThickAsThieves	“I guess the markets aren’t seeing what I am seeing. An entire economy is being rebuilt. I have a price target of $10,000 in three years. Even that may be pessimistic.”	[19:56]
asciilifeform	what does $1 usd cost in soviet rubles? zimbabwe dollars ?	[20:02]
asciilifeform	and does anyone care ?	[20:02]
xmj	no.	[20:02]
ThickAsThieves	well...	[20:03]
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xmj	ben_vulpes: around?	[21:05]
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ben_vulpes	not really	[21:16]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform> focusing on the fact of modification, rather than specific purpose, is idiotic. << focusing on female immodesty rather than the specific excuse idem ?	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	!up jenninsea	[22:03]
-assbot-	You voiced jenninsea for 30 minutes.	[22:03]
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mircea_popescu	Tim Draper: Bitcoin's Price Still Headed to $10k << "I read some stuff on BitBet let me tell you it" FIFH	[22:04]
jenninsea	ty mircea_popescu	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	yw.	[22:07]
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mircea_popescu	!up bhcoins	[22:12]
-assbot-	You voiced bhcoins for 30 minutes.	[22:12]
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The20YearIRCloud	RS Div: 0.00002808 per share on 2014-09-13	[22:12]
The20YearIRCloud	Just in case there's any RENT investors here	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	assbot reports hl divs	[22:13]
The20YearIRCloud	Ah	[22:13]
mike_c	!t h rent	[22:13]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: specific excuse idem << this is more like the fabled pestholes where female dies of appendicitis unless a female appendectomist can be found, because 'modesty.'	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	but the point remains. what exactly is so fundamentally wrong with focusing on the fact of modification rather than "purpose" ?	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck cares what the purpose is, generally speaking	[22:17]
asciilifeform	purpose+effect - rather than 'uses godless tech, must be satanic'	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	it would seem to me it's the job of the proponents to communicate that	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	if they fail, their failure can't be held against the conservative mind.	[22:19]
asciilifeform	the proponents (there's exactly 1, monsanto corp. and its subcontractors) are happily and silently raking in the $$$	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	and sane people are happily and silently banning them.	[22:19]
asciilifeform	proponents of what is currently permitted in bezzlandia, that is	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	homeostasis	[22:19]
asciilifeform	except - they aren't banning monsanto garbage. they're banning 'gmo.'	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	yup. tis how the world works.	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	borrowing from the future, always.	[22:21]
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mircea_popescu	it's "too expensive" and "not user friendly" to proceed properly.	[22:21]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.reddit.com/r/Pareidolia/ << there's actually a cool reddit.	[22:23]
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The20YearIRCloud	7.49% dividend yield based on current price, and we still have one more property to renovate from the original money	[22:24]
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kakobrekla	mk price + div - ipo price = ?	[22:31]
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kakobrekla	btcalpha saves the day	[22:34]
mike_c	;;calc -.00085027 / 0.0055	[22:34]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2014/09/paulsboro_police_settle_with_three_brothers_in_alleged_assault_case.html	[22:48]
assbot	Paulsboro police settle with three brothers in alleged assault case \| NJ.com	[22:48]
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mircea_popescu	nj police steals 20k from random people ; nj residents get to pay for their salary ; for their paid leave ; for the court cost ; for the damages.	[22:48]
*	assbot gives voice to nubbins`	[22:55]
nubbins`	http://i.imgur.com/ofjksF0.jpg	[22:55]
nubbins`	mp, i've been thinking about this massive problem for a while now	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	http://33.media.tumblr.com/b63301154fbd9241bf7c89af8ca31db3/tumblr_mxggb9heKL1ra163eo1_500.gif	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	lol wtf is that	[22:56]
nubbins`	the state fucks you up, your only recourse is to sue, which itself is detrimental to you as well as those around you	[22:56]
asciilifeform	nice lathework!	[22:56]
nubbins`	it's "if men in fighting games dressed like women"	[22:57]
nubbins`	not bad rly. i wouldn't fuckin fight that guy	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	i would lol	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	looks like an easy fight	[22:57]
nubbins`	sure, but if you miss the dick on your first strike, you're goin down	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	orly ?	[22:59]
nubbins`	them muscles didn't grow themselves	[22:59]
nubbins`	well. i mean. they did	[22:59]
nubbins`	but y'know what i'm trying to say	[23:00]
kakobrekla	mp shows him his dick and nigga faints?	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	lol but i dun get it, what's the dick going to do to me ? not like i'm a woman.	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	do you also fear elephants ?	[23:00]
nubbins`	tf?	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	!ud tf	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	;;ud tf	[23:01]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tf \| The Fuck. Most commonly used as a shortened WTF. However, TF is used in instances when WTF takes too long to be said. TF is also used in a more exc...	[23:01]
nubbins`	what's his dick got to do with it?	[23:01]
nubbins`	women don't fight with their tits	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	you never met one with big tits then	[23:01]
kakobrekla	save on the "w", spend on the "!ud tf" and ";;ud tf".	[23:01]
nubbins`	heh	[23:01]
nubbins`	kakobrekla new math	[23:02]
nubbins`	bbl jazz cigarette	[23:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 154 @ 0.00389517 = 0.5999 BTC [-] {9}	[23:05]
The20YearIRCloud	now our yield is almost 9%	[23:09]
mike_c	the lower the price goes the higher the yield! :)	[23:10]
kakobrekla	lol	[23:11]
The20YearIRCloud	yeah, so exciting	[23:11]
mike_c	are you doing more issuances?	[23:13]
nubbins`	The20YearIRCloud i ;;later told you a tracking number a couple days ago, did you receive it?	[23:13]
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The20YearIRCloud	Yes	[23:15]
nubbins`	ok!	[23:17]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 813.28919187 BTC. Current weight: 18,995.	[23:18]
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[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 91(Y):9(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 91.96707126 BTC. Current weight: 15,533.	[23:25]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c he got a bank loc iirc.	[23:29]
kakobrekla	hm	[23:30]
kakobrekla	[]bot is missing bets	[23:30]
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kakobrekla	is it feed by twitter? that would explain it	[23:32]
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mircea_popescu	was it artifexd 's ?	[23:43]
artifexd	Yes it is fed by twitter	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	best feed it by rss if possible	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	twitter is, in so many words, a pos.	[23:45]
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asciilifeform	piece of sale...	[23:46]
asciilifeform	(point of shit?)	[23:46]
artifexd	Yeah. I see the rss feeds for resolved and new bets. I don't see an rss feed for bets placed.	[23:46]
kakobrekla	and rss is so great the author offed himself.	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:47]
artifexd	Is there an rss feed for bets placed?	[23:47]
kakobrekla	and half of asset issuer on mpex has or is interested in putting current through brain.	[23:47]
asciilifeform	recall how naggum paid for his crime of sgml.	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla is there a new bets rss ?	[23:47]
asciilifeform	lulz	[23:47]
*	asciilifeform reveals that he has not, in recent times, succumbed to the temptation of connecting current to brain	[23:48]
kakobrekla	the twitter has it no ? :D	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla help the man lol	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	;;ud spastic pussy	[23:49]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Spastic%20Pussy \| Nov 11, 2013 ... When ones Vagina has become "twitchy" and unable to be inserted by any penis or likewise object due to the "twitchy" pussy causing pain and ...	[23:49]
*	asciilifeform waits for obligatory mention of dogs and their geometry / deadlock phenomenon	[23:50]
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asciilifeform	and of course, the undying legend of said bug applying to human.	[23:55]
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asciilifeform	http://pastebin.com/8d55BT9v << example from well-known work of fiction	[23:57]
assbot	From Jerzy Kosinksy's The Painted Bird - Pastebin.com	[23:57]
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mircea_popescu	ahhh pecans	[23:59]
asciilifeform	(and yes i do know herr kosinsky cribbed it)	[23:59]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform it does happen to young women, sometimes.	[23:59]
asciilifeform	as pictured here ?	[23:59]

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