Forum logs for 11 Nov 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13870 @ 0.00049919 = 6.9238 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52850 @ 0.0004998 = 26.4144 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30350 @ 0.00050161 = 15.2239 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00050174 = 19.9693 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00050175 = 9.2322 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00050231 = 3.6166 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36950 @ 0.0005028 = 18.5785 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25956 @ 0.0005035 = 13.0688 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47200 @ 0.00050409 = 23.793 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25820 @ 0.0005042 = 13.0184 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9945 @ 0.00050438 = 5.0161 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39107 @ 0.00050604 = 19.7897 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19242 @ 0.0005063 = 9.7422 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00050669 = 16.1127 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11626 @ 0.00050673 = 5.8912 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10074 @ 0.00050683 = 5.1058 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00050707 = 3.5241 BTC [+] | [00:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10272 @ 0.00050727 = 5.2107 BTC [+] | [00:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44900 @ 0.00050739 = 22.7818 BTC [+] | [00:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25350 @ 0.00050753 = 12.8659 BTC [+] | [00:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49100 @ 0.00050759 = 24.9227 BTC [+] | [00:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10393 @ 0.00050795 = 5.2791 BTC [+] | [00:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.0005085 = 14.2889 BTC [+] | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | party! | [00:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00050853 = 14.7982 BTC [+] | [00:05] |
jurov | uh oh :) | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | this is actually getting to look kinda like the real deal huh | [00:06] |
jurov | evidently there's someone thinking like me, but who hasn't such loan problems :) | [00:08] |
jurov | *without such problems, i mean | [00:09] |
kakobrekla | its all a bubble, sell before bitb comes out i tell you! | [00:09] |
PsychoticBoy | I love bubbles | [00:10] |
jurov | bitb upon us? oh no | [00:11] |
* | Garr255 is now known as TuxBlackEdo` | [00:12] |
* | TuxBlackEdo` is now known as Garr255 | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | what's bitb ? | [00:14] |
jurov | 1. go to mpex front page | [00:15] |
jurov | 2. scroll down to the bottom | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | lmao omfg owned | [00:15] |
* | mircea_popescu cries | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | jurov : reload. | [00:16] |
mod6 | haha, you didn't know that was still down there 'eh? | [00:20] |
jurov | K. prefix? what wicked financial instrument are you concocting now? | [00:20] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [00:23] |
mircea_popescu | the kumbaya | [00:23] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 i had forgotten lol/ | [00:23] |
mod6 | :] | [00:23] |
mod6 | oh... i didn't see K. in this list: | [00:23] |
mod6 | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpsics-in-detail/ | [00:23] |
mircea_popescu | Reward-Drop ETA: 2012-11-29 00:03:55 (2 weeks, 4 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes) | [00:24] |
mod6 | where did you see that jurov | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | oh cause it's made up | [00:24] |
mod6 | oh :) | [00:24] |
jurov | mircea, not kolchoz ? | [00:24] |
mod6 | i bought a new lappy, just setting it up... bbiab | [00:24] |
jurov | indeed i suspect mircea turned communist and will start kolkhoz soon :D | [00:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31820 @ 0.00051095 = 16.2584 BTC [+] | [00:30] |
mircea_popescu | ya. CCCP LIVES | [00:37] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00051 = 9.2055 BTC [-] | [00:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00051 = 11.8065 BTC [-] | [01:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00051003 = 6.9109 BTC [+] | [01:25] |
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jurov | i'm currently thinking on improving new order screen of coinbr, you won't believe what evil idea i just came up with | [01:43] |
jurov | user won't have to copy/paste thhe price, he just clicks into graph similar to live.coinbr.com | [01:44] |
jurov | imagine that. no messing with these forms, just click into the graph to generate order of given price and quantity | [01:46] |
jurov | i'll make ipad app for that :DDDD | [01:46] |
jurov | either i'm insane or brilliant, not sure | [01:47] |
jurov | "oh my cat ran over the ipad" lol | [01:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37415 @ 0.00051015 = 19.0873 BTC [+] | [01:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4385 @ 0.00051 = 2.2364 BTC [-] | [01:50] |
jurov | "Great MPEx Panic Of 2013 Caused By Cat Stepping On IPad" | [01:52] |
jurov | better to go sleep, bye | [01:55] |
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mircea_popescu | that's pretty good | [01:59] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00051 = 15.351 BTC [-] | [02:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49960 @ 0.00051 = 25.4796 BTC [-] | [02:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1005 @ 0.00050974 = 0.5123 BTC [-] | [02:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3201 @ 0.00050974 = 1.6317 BTC [-] | [02:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00050913 = 4.2258 BTC [-] | [02:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49703 @ 0.0005091 = 25.3038 BTC [-] | [02:41] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1672 @ 0.0005091 = 0.8512 BTC [-] | [03:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00050745 = 9.0326 BTC [-] | [03:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18296 @ 0.00050661 = 9.2689 BTC [-] | [03:06] |
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* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [13:16] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi | [13:16] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Nov 8 15:00:02 2012 | [13:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11845 @ 0.00050108 = 5.9353 BTC [-] | [13:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5158 @ 0.00050039 = 2.581 BTC [-] | [13:29] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;later tell btc-mining would you be so kind as to post in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.220 | [13:46] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell btc-mining i think it is your obligation to your investors to help prosecute the scammer. | [13:47] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [13:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48397 @ 0.00050039 = 24.2174 BTC [-] | [13:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86 @ 0.0005002 = 0.043 BTC [-] | [13:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22764 @ 0.0005002 = 11.3866 BTC [-] | [14:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17349 @ 0.00049979 = 8.6709 BTC [-] | [14:20] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.00049979 = 12.7197 BTC [-] | [14:45] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00050175 = 19.6686 BTC [+] | [15:10] |
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kakobrekla | anyone sploke to casascius recently? | [15:23] |
kakobrekla | i cant reach the guy, all the mails are bouncing back goddammit | [15:25] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00050175 = 13.1459 BTC [+] | [15:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00050605 = 12.6006 BTC [+] | [16:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00050715 = 4.6151 BTC [+] | [16:01] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00050469 = 3.0786 BTC [-] | [16:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13743 @ 0.0005021 = 6.9004 BTC [-] | [16:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.0005021 = 8.5357 BTC [-] | [17:17] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21807 @ 0.0005021 = 10.9493 BTC [-] | [17:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4651 @ 0.00049979 = 2.3245 BTC [-] | [17:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8242 @ 0.00049862 = 4.1096 BTC [-] | [17:43] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla i think he's active on forum | [18:01] |
kakobrekla | sent him a pm as well | [18:01] |
kakobrekla | but i guess he didnt get the notice on the email | [18:01] |
kakobrekla | hehe | [18:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37158 @ 0.00049862 = 18.5277 BTC [-] | [18:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11426 @ 0.00049858 = 5.6968 BTC [-] | [18:08] |
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mircea_popescu | !ticker s.mpoe | [18:20] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0004934 / 0.00050333 / 0.00051095 (2193849 shares, 1,104.24 BTC), 30day: 0.00030871 / 0.00044148 / 0.00051095 (75251680 shares, 33,222.70 BTC) | [18:20] |
mircea_popescu | ;;bc,24hprc | [18:22] |
gribble | 10.81 | [18:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00050217 = 15.6677 BTC [+] | [18:33] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3674 @ 0.00049858 = 1.8318 BTC [-] | [18:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3526 @ 0.00049857 = 1.758 BTC [-] | [18:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00049857 = 8.2763 BTC [-] | [19:24] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8640 @ 0.00050217 = 4.3387 BTC [+] | [19:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00050264 = 14.1744 BTC [+] | [19:49] |
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mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/ | [20:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8160 @ 0.00050286 = 4.1033 BTC [+] | [20:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15574 @ 0.00049857 = 7.7647 BTC [-] | [20:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166 @ 0.00049792 = 0.0827 BTC [-] | [20:15] |
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kakobrekla | i was block by a paid content filter | [20:18] |
kakobrekla | blocked* | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | aww. | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | you get 5 free reads a week. | [20:19] |
kakobrekla | hm | [20:19] |
kakobrekla | i wonder how hard your protection is | [20:20] |
mircea_popescu | hehe. so try it. | [20:20] |
kakobrekla | i will. | [20:20] |
jurov | i use http://tools.rosinstrument.com/cgi-proxy.htm to read trilema (with disabled JS ofc) | [20:21] |
kakobrekla | did you pay the buck? | [20:22] |
jurov | no | [20:22] |
kakobrekla | ;;rate jurov -1 scammed MP out of $1 | [20:22] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user jurov has been recorded. | [20:22] |
kakobrekla | ok jk. | [20:23] |
jurov | omg | [20:23] |
kakobrekla | ;;unrate jurov | [20:23] |
gribble | Successfully removed your rating for jurov. | [20:23] |
kakobrekla | twas a fuckin joke. | [20:23] |
jurov | i'll pay someday... when i decide it's necessary to support poor romanian kids | [20:24] |
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jurov | mircea, how many mpoe shares you actually sold? the IPO was only 1 promile, and that was twice I think | [20:30] |
jurov | now I guess it's 1-2% at most... then it's quite exaggeration to extrapolate mkt value from it | [20:31] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [20:34] |
mircea_popescu | Total shares : 1`000`000`000, of which : | [20:35] |
mircea_popescu | Mircea Popescu, 971`367`807 shares, | [20:35] |
mircea_popescu | Third parties 28`632`193 shares. | [20:35] |
mircea_popescu | from the last statement | [20:35] |
jurov | okay, so 2.8 % | [20:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10508 @ 0.0005069 = 5.3265 BTC [+] | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | yeah,. | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | on the other hand | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker s.mpoe | [20:40] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0004934 / 0.00050372 / 0.00051095 (2175547 shares, 1,095.87 BTC), 30day: 0.00030871 / 0.00044179 / 0.00051095 (75259427 shares, 33,249.38 BTC) | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 28632193 * 0.00050372 | [20:40] |
gribble | 14422.608258 | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | why do you think 14k bitcoins aren't enough to extrapolate based on ? | [20:41] |
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jurov | ;;calc 1000000000* 0.0005069 | [20:53] |
gribble | 506900 | [20:53] |
jurov | mircea, it's too much uncertainty... and if all major btc companies extrapolated this way i suspect we'll ended with number several times beyond btc in circulation | [20:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1992 @ 0.00050181 = 0.9996 BTC [-] | [20:58] |
jurov | ;;calc 100000000*0.00181 | [20:59] |
gribble | 181000 | [20:59] |
jurov | that's satoshidice, for example | [20:59] |
jurov | silk road would be much more, etc... | [20:59] |
mircea_popescu | im not sure it would be much more. | [21:00] |
smickles | shouldn't we be calcing the free float market cap (or as close as we can get to it) rather than implied value? | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway : obviously the value of all items in btc will be more than the total btc. | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | jurov but i think in a world where absolutely NO OTHER measure exists or is used, this measure, flawed as it may be, is much better. | [21:01] |
smickles | and, mircea_popescu, didn't you pledge to never release control of 50% the total shares during the initial offering? | [21:02] |
kakobrekla | not what i heard for measuring trust mp | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | smickles nobody on mpex can release more than 50% | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla hm ? | [21:02] |
kakobrekla | ah didnt you listen to katz | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | i must have missed some katz. | [21:03] |
smickles | rockin' katz | [21:03] |
smickles | ;;lucky "rockin katz" | [21:03] |
gribble | http://hub.webring.org/hub/rockinkatz | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | Giacomo Lucky Katz Casteldelmare | [21:04] |
mircea_popescu | sounds like a kickass mobster name | [21:04] |
kakobrekla | nothing on bitcoinica yet eh? | [21:04] |
kakobrekla | There were no results matching the query. | [21:04] |
kakobrekla | Create the page "Katz" on this wiki! | [21:04] |
kakobrekla | ;;bc,stats | [21:09] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 207520 | Current Difficulty: 3304356.3929903 | Next Difficulty At Block: 207647 | Next Difficulty In: 127 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 20 hours, 10 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3392979.01731214 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.68199351952 | [21:09] |
kakobrekla | impossibru. | [21:10] |
jurov | put my whole opinion there. | [21:12] |
jurov | * i've | [21:12] |
smickles | Azelphur: I just made pyMPEx better … again | [21:21] |
smickles | jurov: you use pympex too, don't you? | [21:21] |
mircea_popescu | whatcha do ? | [21:22] |
Azelphur | smickles: fun | [21:22] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: added signature verification | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | pretty cool | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | i thought it had it ? | [21:22] |
* | Azelphur mesrges it in | [21:22] |
* | smickles watched it happen live on github | [21:23] |
Azelphur | :D | [21:23] |
smickles | HOORAY FOR OPEN SOURCE :D | [21:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00050181 = 3.9392 BTC [-] | [21:24] |
Azelphur | indeed o/ | [21:25] |
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jurov | yes i use pympex | [21:34] |
jurov | it did not occur to me to check the signature :/ and it's true user's pubkey is used, so it's necessary | [21:36] |
jurov | thanks | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | yay for open source #2. | [21:37] |
thestringpuller | i didn't know you were a fan of OSS mircea_popescu | [21:38] |
thestringpuller | smickles: UGH I think I'm not synched up to our timezones | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | im a fan of some parts. | [21:39] |
thestringpuller | unlike steve ballmer | [21:40] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.0005 = 0.4 BTC [-] | [21:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11846 @ 0.00049897 = 5.9108 BTC [-] | [21:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17954 @ 0.00049792 = 8.9397 BTC [-] | [21:49] |
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thestringpuller | why are a lot of the options n/a? | [21:53] |
smickles | no one is selling/buying them | [21:54] |
thestringpuller | :( | [21:54] |
smickles | i haven't yet launched my bot | [21:54] |
thestringpuller | the arbritrageur? | [21:55] |
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mircea_popescu | thestringpuller bot got bought out. | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | was an episode earlier like 30-40k contracts were bought | [21:59] |
mircea_popescu | jurov http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/#comment-90390 | [22:02] |
thestringpuller | they is gonna resell those contracts at sky high prices | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | if it goes up, maybe yea | [22:07] |
thestringpuller | were they all calls that were bought? | [22:07] |
Lyspooner | does mpex need funding? | [22:07] |
thestringpuller | [22:10] | |
smickles | Lyspooner: you lookin' to throw some btc at MPBOR? | [22:11] |
smickles | Apr 05 22:50:39 {Cusipzzz}i, for one, welcome our stable bitcoin overlords << lol, good line to end on | [22:12] |
Lyspooner | i don't know. with mpoe loaded up short calls, i can't expect mircea to not mess around with mtgox on final settlement day | [22:12] |
Lyspooner | or any day, for that matter | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | haha i don't even have an acct. | [22:13] |
smickles | yeah, but you broker does /jk | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [22:14] |
Lyspooner | but seriously what sort of rate can i get for my coins from mpex? | [22:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00050181 = 8.1293 BTC [+] | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | MPBOR was 9% last month | [22:14] |
kakobrekla | jurov, do you take direct deposits | [22:15] |
Lyspooner | 25% and it's a deal | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | haha well nothing stops you from trying. | [22:15] |
jurov | kakobrekla, you mean the loan? of course | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | course, it'd all be for next month anyway. | [22:15] |
smickles | 25% sounds reasonable considering the recent losses | [22:15] |
Lyspooner | more than reasonable | [22:15] |
Lyspooner | sounds risky at 25% | [22:16] |
kakobrekla | jurov 15 days only? | [22:16] |
Lyspooner | give me some sort of bitcoin friday 25% guarantee | [22:16] |
smickles | lol | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [22:17] |
jurov | kakobrekla, you want longer term? | [22:17] |
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Lyspooner | or i'll just go buy a hat and some honey | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | loan it to who was looking for | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | i think jurov ? | [22:17] |
Lyspooner | what's his story | [22:18] |
jurov | https://btcjam.com/listings/517 | [22:18] |
kakobrekla | jurov if you need 100 btc i can lend it to you for a month | [22:18] |
jurov | for how much? 9% ? | [22:18] |
smickles | on btcjam, that %, is that the term % or a yearly %? | [22:18] |
jurov | term % | [22:18] |
kakobrekla | smickles i was asking myself the same | [22:18] |
jurov | there's final amount shown too | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | for anyone that still remembers april times tho... it was a really scary time to be in bitcoin. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | lots of people were expecting to see $1 | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | BTC 100.00000 @ 2.9% is that per month ? | [22:19] |
Lyspooner | 2011 was a scary time to be in euro | [22:20] |
smickles | ;;calc 1.029 ** (365/15) | [22:20] |
gribble | 2.00496803248 | [22:20] |
jurov | mircea, no , on 1st dec i am to repay 102.9 | [22:20] |
kakobrekla | hm, 2.9 is per 14 days or 11 that is remaining | [22:20] |
jurov | see above | [22:20] |
kakobrekla | a | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | Lyspooner or dollars | [22:21] |
kakobrekla | so its like 6 per month | [22:21] |
kakobrekla | or something | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | aha | [22:21] |
kakobrekla | why did you offer 9 | [22:21] |
kakobrekla | ill take 9 over 6 | [22:21] |
smickles | damn jurov was that stat b/f or after our thing? | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 1.029 ** (15/365) | [22:21] |
gribble | 1.00117551737 | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | smickles noob. | [22:22] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: you so sure we were calcing the same thing? | [22:22] |
jurov | smikles, before. but i also have > 100k sell orders there and the collateral isn't counting them | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | no :D | [22:22] |
jurov | sorry kakobrekla, you're right, i confused it woth the loan we did w/smickles. | [22:23] |
kakobrekla | aha | [22:26] |
jurov | kakobrekla, if you can accept 6% / month I'll be glad | [22:26] |
kakobrekla | well ... its not terribly attractive yet not something to pass along | [22:26] |
kakobrekla | 50 btc if you want | [22:26] |
kakobrekla | post an addy | [22:26] |
jurov | 1EXeDPMG5M5imDpaX5znAk3JFx36bVpWaT | [22:26] |
kakobrekla | one sec | [22:26] |
kakobrekla | sent | [22:28] |
jurov | so that means 53BTC due on 11 December 2012? | [22:28] |
kakobrekla | thats fine | [22:29] |
jurov | good. thanks! | [22:29] |
kakobrekla | yw | [22:29] |
jurov | kakobrekla, your addy, just in case? | [22:31] |
kakobrekla | here it is 1GjVtbovA6Lr8UJgPKQNgzgtMwq4NDoYsR | [22:32] |
kakobrekla | but if im dead | [22:32] |
kakobrekla | you are better off keeping the money | [22:32] |
jurov | okay. and if fsa gets you,. i'll send it to them. | [22:33] |
kakobrekla | :p | [22:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13936 @ 0.00049792 = 6.939 BTC [-] | [22:41] |
jurov | so, i just sold my 14yr old daewoo to lyspooner | [22:41] |
Lyspooner | um that's not true | [22:41] |
jurov | for not bad a price :DDD | [22:41] |
Lyspooner | you posted it as collateral | [22:41] |
Lyspooner | secured loans by unsecure cars | [22:41] |
jurov | uhm, i was ging to fix slightly recessed roof tomorow... perhaps that can wait a month | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | !? | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | you srsly sold/bought a car ? | [22:43] |
jurov | and that noisy exhaust... too, prolly | [22:43] |
jurov | i'm just poking some fun to lyspooner | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | lolk | [22:43] |
Lyspooner | i don't drive cars anymore | [22:44] |
Lyspooner | i drive jets | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | one day you'll graduate do driving women. | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | after that all that's left is herding cats. | [22:44] |
Lyspooner | i'd like to drive a cat | [22:46] |
Lyspooner | a jungle cat | [22:46] |
Lyspooner | so why should you be worth more than mtgox? | [22:47] |
Lyspooner | i didn't follow the numbers | [22:47] |
jurov | cause mircea is exponential | [22:47] |
Lyspooner | oh ok | [22:47] |
Lyspooner | from BFL apparently: ""We'll notify you at least a week before your order is ready and you can send your FPGA in. We are working on a way to cross ship you the device, so you don't have any downtime. It will probably involve you sending us BTC for the amount of the device and we'll refund the BTC when we get your FPGA unit back." | [22:49] |
mircea_popescu | [22:50] | |
mircea_popescu | Lyspooner do you even have currency exchanges in your country ? as an independent business i mean | [22:51] |
Lyspooner | currency exchanges exist in my country | [22:51] |
mircea_popescu | ok. do you see how one of them would compare to the stock exchange ? | [22:52] |
Lyspooner | i could compare their earnings, yes | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | srsly ?! | [22:54] |
Lyspooner | um yes | [22:54] |
Lyspooner | they have earnings in some sort of real number | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | o lol | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | no but i mean, exchange house makes x, stock exchange makes y | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | x > y | [22:55] |
Lyspooner | oh ok | [22:56] |
smickles | MPEx earnings: sqrt(-1) | [22:56] |
thestringpuller | i | [22:56] |
Lyspooner | but mtgox:currency exchange::mpex:stock exchange isn't a fair analogy | [22:56] |
mircea_popescu | indeed, because mpex also has the mpoe wing. | [22:57] |
Lyspooner | ha | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | ;) | [22:57] |
Lyspooner | well if it is a fair analogy then it has been a fair analogy for the past two years | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | and also because irl currency exchanges are in a much better relation to the respective govts | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | than mtgox is or ever will be | [22:58] |
mircea_popescu | for instance, irl an exchanger is bled try in taxes and reg costs, but also protected, because you need a license to do it. | [22:58] |
Lyspooner | mtgox merchant solutions is a nice component of their business | [22:58] |
mircea_popescu | in bitcoin, there's no license. | [22:58] |
mircea_popescu | i agree, they may diversify into other areas | [22:59] |
smickles | DRY DRY DRY | [23:00] |
smickles | ^a contradiction | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | understand, it's not like i have a deathwish for mtgox or anything. they're doing something valuable and so on. | [23:00] |
Lyspooner | ok, but for the same reasons there may be many stock exchanges to compete against mpex | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | not really. you need a lot more credibility to make a mpex than to trade usd for btc or back | [23:00] |
Lyspooner | is that why you have such great PR work on the forums | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | and a lot more competence. | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | haha what forums ? | [23:01] |
Lyspooner | THE forum | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | heh. | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | tell you what,nefario had great pr on THE forum | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | look how well that worked for him. | [23:01] |
thestringpuller | nefario was incompetent | [23:02] |
thestringpuller | and a coward | [23:02] |
thestringpuller | and probably a snitch | [23:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.0004989 = 13.2707 BTC [+] | [23:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2509 @ 0.00050181 = 1.259 BTC [+] | [23:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00050715 = 0.8368 BTC [+] | [23:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19241 @ 0.0005077 = 9.7687 BTC [+] | [23:04] |
thestringpuller | 43% of canadians would rather have bacon than sex | [23:05] |
thestringpuller | any canadians here? | [23:05] |
kakobrekla | what percentage would rather just have sex with bacon? | [23:06] |
mircea_popescu | hahaha | [23:06] |
smickles | thestringpuller: that is likely going to be 90% or more for 'mericans | [23:07] |
jurov | more useful is trading passwords for candy | [23:13] |
jurov | if btctalk enabled instant candy transfers, it would melt down | [23:14] |
mircea_popescu | sorta like candy. | [23:15] |
dub | moosecock eh? | [23:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21471 @ 0.0005077 = 10.9008 BTC [+] | [23:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29529 @ 0.00050784 = 14.996 BTC [+] | [23:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13971 @ 0.00050784 = 7.095 BTC [+] | [23:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14120 @ 0.00050914 = 7.1891 BTC [+] | [23:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00050928 = 11.1532 BTC [+] | [23:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1009 @ 0.00050937 = 0.514 BTC [+] | [23:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17167 @ 0.00050937 = 8.7444 BTC [+] | [23:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00050938 = 12.0978 BTC [+] | [23:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00050962 = 17.3526 BTC [+] | [23:22] |
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kakobrekla | o hey Garr255 hows the ponzi doing | [23:27] |
jurov | lmao russians do call mining pool kolkhozy :D https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14044.0 | [23:28] |
jurov | the K.KBRL plot thickens | [23:29] |
Garr255 | hey kakobrekla, well its not a "ponzi" see the latest post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123654.msg1329823#msg1329823 | [23:33] |
Garr255 | but the game is going well, off to a bit of a slow start though | [23:33] |
kakobrekla | i dont see how this could possibly end well | [23:36] |
Garr255 | kakobrekla, for some people it won't, for others it will. that's how these games work. | [23:37] |
Garr255 | definitely don't ever treat a game like this as an "investment" | [23:37] |
kakobrekla | add "for you" at the end of first statement | [23:38] |
kakobrekla | not gonna stand in the way just a word of warning | [23:38] |
jurov | Garr255, you can incorporate mpex bonds in the game.. for fun and profit | [23:38] |
kakobrekla | "fun and profit" seems like something is missing in that phrase... aa i got it "fun, profit and milk" | [23:39] |
jurov | or at least satoshidice. or both | [23:41] |
Garr255 | That would be cool, but I think it'll be best to keep it as straight forward as possible. | [23:42] |
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kakobrekla | A glass of milk, straight. | [23:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44450 @ 0.00051 = 22.6695 BTC [+] | [23:47] |
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thestringpuller | BTC is always deflating... | [23:54] |
thestringpuller | bitcoin friday was a failure it seems... | [23:57] |
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