Forum logs for 08 Nov 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu once btc reaches its pleateau things get back to normal [00:00]
mircea_popescu under the new world overlords. [00:00]
benkay why is a plateau the steady-state? [00:01]
asciilifeform will be interesting to see 'company towns' where you can get food, housing, etc. for btc. [00:01]
benkay i guess just a really shallow increase [00:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC [+] [00:01]
mircea_popescu benkay at some point the btc will trade more or less for (total world assets)/(total btc in circulation) [00:01]
mircea_popescu at that point fixed assets prices become again stable in btc. [00:01]
* benkay nods [00:02]
benkay as i suspected, argentinian REIT is doa. [00:04]
* kleeck (~kleeck@c-50-151-121-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:05]
* [8] has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [00:06]
benkay is anyone tracking troy gold denominated in btc? [00:06]
nubbins` http://www.amagimetals.com/ [00:09]
ozbot Buy Gold, Silver Coins, Bars and Bullion Online | Best Prices on Precious Metals - Amagi Metals [00:09]
nubbins` oh n/m, the ticker doesn't change to btc [00:10]
nubbins` http://www.coinabul.com/ [00:10]
nubbins` literally just googling "gold btc" here [00:11]
* dupall (d5dba07a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.219.160.122) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:11]
asciilifeform these wouldn't be the fellows that shafted people back in april? [00:11]
asciilifeform cancelling bullion orders when btc spiked [00:11]
benkay http://bitcoinity.org/charts/gold [00:11]
ozbot Bitcoinity.org [00:11]
nubbins` no idea [00:13]
benkay not exactly a model of information presentation... [00:13]
nubbins` i've had good dealings with amagi [00:13]
benkay gotta love the clarity of units [00:14]
benkay coinabuls charts appear to be completely fscked [00:14]
benkay yes plz will buy butts at 130 [00:15]
benkay http://bitcoinbabble.com/?p=109 [00:18]
ozbot A Case for Fractional Reserve Banking with Bitcoin | Bitcoin Babble [00:18]
benkay fractional reserve [00:18]
benkay stopped reading [00:18]
mircea_popescu tghen why link it :p [00:19]
* AusBitBank has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [00:19]
benkay i read the log [00:20]
benkay i hope other idiots do too [00:20]
mircea_popescu i guess so [00:21]
benkay ;;ticker --market --all [00:26]
gribble Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['btcde', 'mtgox', 'btcavg', 'bitstamp', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitfinex', 'all', 'btce', 'btcn']. [00:26]
benkay ;;ticker --market all [00:26]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 311.70100, vol: 85291.17094261 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 292.89, vol: 50109.30993984 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 282.563, vol: 35924.37193 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 281.96, vol: 1002.02269609 | Volume-weighted last average: 299.983897084 [00:27]
benkay ;;ticker -m all [00:27]
gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message) [00:27]
benkay :( [00:27]
benkay ;;ticker --market all --currency XAU [00:28]
gribble Error: Only USD averages supported. [00:28]
benkay ;;ticker --market all --currency EUR [00:29]
gribble Error: Only USD averages supported. [00:29]
benkay ;;ticker --market all --currency USD [00:29]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 312.00000, vol: 85308.66393263 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 291.17, vol: 50115.09916200 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 283.599, vol: 35941.52011 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 281.96, vol: 1002.02269609 | Volume-weighted last average: 299.847037586 [00:29]
benkay does nano operate gribble? [00:31]
benkay nanotube? [00:31]
* dupall has quit (Quit: Page closed) [00:31]
mircea_popescu yes. [00:32]
benkay thanks! [00:33]
* nubbins` has quit (Quit: nubbins`) [00:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00608999 = 0.609 BTC [-] {2} [00:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.638 BTC [-] [00:38]
* kleeck has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [00:41]
* Jere_Jones has quit () [00:44]
benkay & [00:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.624 = 1.872 BTC [-] {2} [00:44]
* kleeck (~kleeck@c-50-151-121-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:45]
* kleeck has quit (Client Quit) [00:46]
benkay !h [00:46]
assbot List of commands: [00:46]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} [00:46]
assbot !last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} [00:46]
assbot !mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) [00:46]
assbot !rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} [00:46]
assbot !exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} [00:46]
assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com) [00:46]
assbot !bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b} [00:46]
assbot !quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q} [00:46]
* web (~web@xdsl-188-155-48-66.adslplus.ch) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:46]
bubbalicious /query assbot [00:47]
* samson_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [00:48]
* b0n1 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [00:50]
pankkake !tickle [00:50]
* tse has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [00:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.615 = 2.46 BTC [-] [00:54]
* Andiz (~Andiz@69-165-148-25.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:54]
* tse (~kderaymon@96-42-168-13.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:54]
* Anduck (~Anduck@85-76-117-23-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:57]
* Anduck has quit (Changing host) [00:57]
* Anduck (~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:57]
* web has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:59]
* naemsi has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:03]
* jordandotdev_ is now known as jordandotdev [01:04]
* bubbalicious has quit (Quit: Page closed) [01:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.056 = 0.168 BTC [+] [01:05]
* samson_ (~ukru@180.183.162.135) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:06]
* tse has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:12]
* tse (~kderaymon@96-42-168-13.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:13]
* GordonG3kko has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:15]
* random_cat has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:15]
* GordonG3kko (~GordonG3k@gateway/tor-sasl/gordong3kko) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.32 = 0.96 BTC [-] [01:18]
* random_cat (~random_ca@gateway/tor-sasl/randomcat/x-49498005) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:18]
* MustardKing (~Poupon@unaffiliated/mrjiffy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:21]
* tyrion70 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:23]
* tyrion70 (~Adium@unaffiliated/tyrion70) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00612425 = 0.392 BTC [+] {2} [01:24]
* LorenzoMoney has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00015 = 0.45 BTC [-] [01:29]
* virtuals has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [01:31]
* AusBitBank (~adam@eth491.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:41]
* virtuals (~virtuals@85-76-142-3-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:43]
* hnz has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [01:50]
* samson_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [01:50]
* fukff has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [01:51]
* hnz (~hnz@koln-5d81010e.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:54]
* jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:58]
* Kleeck (~Kleeck@c-50-151-121-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:59]
* jborkl has quit (Client Quit) [02:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.002 = 0.12 BTC [-] [02:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.614025 = 2.4561 BTC [-] {3} [02:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6115 = 2.446 BTC [-] {3} [02:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61100001 = 1.222 BTC [-] [02:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.32 = 0.96 BTC [-] [02:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.32 = 2.56 BTC [-] [02:06]
* toffoo (~tof@179.218.77.42) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:10]
* virtuals has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [02:13]
* b0n1 (~carly@massmann.mhn.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:14]
* Kushed (~Kushedout@69.231.126.100) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:19]
jurov pankkake perhaps i can write bets (or convince you it's vague idea) for hire :D [02:20]
* Kushedout has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [02:21]
* naemsi (~wanderwah@gateway/tor-sasl/wanderwah) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:25]
* virtuals (~virtuals@85-76-112-69-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00602029 = 0.4154 BTC [-] {3} [02:26]
* MustardKing has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [02:27]
* kleinessteak has quit () [02:28]
* Ogedei has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [02:41]
* freshcoin (~fresh@dt1b0n26.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:41]
mircea_popescu anyone seen compliance ? the movie. [02:43]
* Ogedei (~Ogedei@unaffiliated/ogedei) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:43]
* benkay has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [02:45]
* b0n1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:47]
* OneFixt has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [02:47]
* TAT_Investments has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [02:47]
* OneFixt (~OneFixt@unaffiliated/onefixt) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:47]
* nubbins` (~nubbins`@stjhnf0148w-142134201245.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nl.bellaliant.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:54]
nubbins` no, but it's based on a true story! [02:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 150 @ 0.00109499 = 0.1642 BTC [+] [02:56]
mircea_popescu it's unwatchable. [02:56]
nubbins` not surprised [02:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 158 @ 0.00589884 = 0.932 BTC [-] {6} [02:57]
* Riva59 has quit (Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com) [02:58]
nubbins` saw the good, the bad and the ugly for the first time a couple days ago [02:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 850 @ 0.00109499 = 0.9307 BTC [+] [03:00]
* [\] (~imsaguy@unaffiliated/imsaguy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00082908 = 9.9904 BTC [+] {2} [03:04]
* Evolyn__ (~Evolyn@p4FDCD001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:07]
Namworld Who had the idea to make buttered popcorn flavored jelly beans... tastes like mixed salt and sugar... [03:07]
nubbins` eat one with 2 blueberry jellybeans for a blueberry muffin flavor [03:08]
* benkay (~user@200.125.83.3) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:08]
* Evolyn_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:10]
Namworld It almost works... it's too salty tho [03:10]
Namworld other than that popcorn flavor, these are delicious... [03:11]
thestringpuller ;;seen smi [03:12]
gribble I have not seen smi. [03:12]
thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [03:12]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 7 hours, 1 minute, and 45 seconds ago: $avg [03:12]
thestringpuller not this again lol [03:12]
jurov ;;bc,stats [03:15]
gribble Current Blocks: 268475 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 1668 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 556744793.93 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.967 [03:15]
* Anduck has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [03:16]
benkay http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2013/11/07/judge-orders-coinlab-to-pay-up-in-bitcoin/ [03:18]
ozbot Judge Orders CoinLab to Give Bitcoin to Bitvestment - MoneyBeat - WSJ [03:18]
BingoBoingo "A well-known bitcoin company" <- WTF does CoinLab even do? [03:19]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo basically it's bitcoin's zsa zsa gabor [03:20]
mircea_popescu a well known hollywood celeb that has nevertheless never done any movies. [03:20]
BingoBoingo Ah, So like a Kardashian without a sex tape. [03:20]
mircea_popescu well they're working on the sex tape. [03:20]
* Duffer1 has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332]) [03:21]
* CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:23]
* benkay- (~user@200.125.83.3) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:24]
* benkay- has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [03:25]
* benkay has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [03:25]
* benkay (~user@200.125.83.3) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:25]
* Jezzz has quit (Excess Flood) [03:28]
* Guest77610 (Jezzz@2001:4b10:100:a436:dcad:beff:feef:2) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:29]
mircea_popescu In February 2009, "Dex" called a KFC restaurant in Manchester, New Hampshire. Posing as a manager from the corporate office, he persuaded employees to douse the building with fire suppression chemicals and to then proceed outside, remove all of their clothing and urinate on each other (he claimed the chemicals were caustic and this would render them inert). [03:29]
* Guest77610 is now known as Jezzz [03:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.639 BTC [+] [03:29]
* Jezzz is now known as Guest57061 [03:30]
BingoBoingo Apparently some sort of new Traffic stop pilot program is being tested in New Mexico http://gawker.com/routine-traffic-stop-leads-to-anal-probe-nightmare-agai-1460304269 [03:31]
kakobrekla also who is bitvestment [03:31]
* Guest57061 is now known as Jezzz [03:31]
* Jezzz has quit (Changing host) [03:31]
* Jezzz (Jezzz@unaffiliated/jezzz) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.317 BTC [-] [03:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.04620001 = 0.924 BTC [-] [03:35]
* CheeseDooles (~cheeseDoo@out-on-154.wireless.telus.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:36]
mircea_popescu On July 20, Markle tricked a desk clerk at the Homewood Suites in Lexington, Kentucky into drinking another person’s urine. The prank started with a call to a guest. The guest was told it was the front desk calling and that a prior guest had tested positive for Hepatitis C. The guest was then told there was a doctor on site and a simple urine test could determine if the guest was infected. The urine was to be brought [03:38]
mircea_popescu to the front desk in a simple drinking glass. Markle then called the front desk alleging to be an employee of Martinelli's Cider. He told the clerk that a representative from the company would like to come downstairs with a sample of their new drink. The guest from the previous call then arrived and handed the clerk his urine. Markle then coaxed the woman to try it. He asked how it tasted. "Horrible," she said. "That [03:38]
mircea_popescu does not taste like cider. I'm not going to take another sip, that's horrible." Markle replied: "Well, I need to inform you of something, ma'am. I want you to understand that you just drank that man's urine." [03:38]
mircea_popescu i gotta get into pranking, this shit's too epic. [03:38]
* Andiz has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.63905714 = 4.4734 BTC [+] {2} [03:43]
* tomthebarbarian (~tom@99-100-52-109.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:44]
* Duffer1 (~chatzilla@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:51]
BingoBoingo ;;goxlag [03:52]
gribble MtGox lag is 0.408284 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000818196564625 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU). [03:52]
* robocoin has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:52]
* chaang-noi has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [03:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6391 = 3.1955 BTC [+] [03:53]
benkay they don't even have the volume to justify that [03:53]
* robocoin (~rc@unaffiliated/robocoin) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:54]
* Andiz (Andiz@W100.N37.queensu.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:56]
mircea_popescu http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/07/article-2491576-1943076800000578-829_634x378.jpg [03:57]
mircea_popescu guess the bitcoin site. [03:57]
nubbins` hahaha [03:59]
nubbins` guess they're using JSF [03:59]
mircea_popescu amusingly, obama's signature project would not actually qualify to being listed on mpex on technical grounds. [03:59]
nubbins` can't find message bundle files = ???place_holder_name??? for all strings [04:00]
mircea_popescu lucky for him he's friends with the fiat printer guy or else he'd starve. [04:00]
nubbins` pays to have friends in inky places [04:00]
nubbins` new polymer $5 and $10s released here today [04:00]
nubbins` canada no longer produces paper money [04:00]
BingoBoingo Maybe Obama can hire TradeFortress? I hear he needs an income... [04:00]
mircea_popescu i doubt he has the clearance. [04:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.04620001 = 0.924 BTC [+] [04:02]
mod6 lol nubbins` wasn't kidding: http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/11/07/new_5_and_10_polymer_bills_released_by_bank_of_canada.html [04:03]
kakobrekla whats odd also about tf, different people are getting back different percentages of their holdings or soemthing [04:04]
* MustardKing (~Poupon@unaffiliated/mrjiffy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:04]
nubbins` mod6: crisp stacks of them are VERY difficult to separate. it's a real pain [04:04]
nubbins` cashiers are always death-gripping them [04:04]
* Luke-Jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:05]
mircea_popescu lmao @poorly made polymer bills. [04:06]
mircea_popescu romania has been using all poly for a decade, and the problem never existed here. [04:06]
mod6 i bet, nubbins`. seems like that would be a problem. [04:06]
mircea_popescu the trick is that they have to have special faces. [04:06]
mircea_popescu which costs slightly more [04:06]
* mjoiii_ (~AndChat52@108-162-153-218.cable.teksavvy.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:06]
nubbins` they tend to nest together around the braille [04:07]
* cads (~m@96-32-87-70.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:07]
mod6 huh. [04:07]
nubbins` once they've been circulating for a while they're ok, but crisp ones are always a problem [04:07]
nubbins` polymer notes also don't fold nicely [04:07]
nubbins` i'm really not a huge fan [04:07]
nubbins` better than more coins, though [04:07]
BingoBoingo Apparently Mt Dox is a thing now https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327178.0 [04:08]
nubbins` the see-thru panels are kinda cool tho [04:08]
mircea_popescu there's really not much choice, you can't make "paper" textile secure enough. [04:08]
mod6 mircea_popescu: do you mean 'faces' as in the artwork on the note, or as in some sort of poly scuffing or 'roughness' on the surface? [04:08]
mircea_popescu the latter mod6 [04:08]
mod6 ahh [04:08]
mod6 interesting way to get around the problem i suppose. new paper notes always stick together over here -- and there's a lot of 'em (lol) [04:09]
nubbins` the canadian notes have texture as well [04:09]
mircea_popescu nubbins` then it must not be done right or something ? [04:09]
nubbins` i assumed that it was because they cut the sheets in stacks, and don't mechanically fan them to encourage separation before shipping them to the banks [04:10]
nubbins` in fact, i mis-counted the tenants' rent twice this month because of this very problem [04:11]
mod6 are these poly-notes just straight poly, or are they a laminated pet (polyester) | polyethylene with paper in the middle? [04:12]
nubbins` pure poly [04:12]
nubbins` the canadian notes have fully transparent sections [04:13]
mod6 oh, ok. probably better that way to avoid delamination [04:13]
* cads has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [04:13]
mod6 one bad lot of glue could mean delam for lots and lots of notes haha. [04:13]
nubbins` http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6222/6356371907_4686b1d63d_m.jpg [04:13]
nubbins` (you can see the guilty braille near the bottom right of the "E" [04:14]
nubbins` ) [04:14]
mod6 ok, so its a [ poly | ink | poly ] construction 'eh [04:14]
mod6 well, actually: [poly | ink | glue | poly ] (probably) [04:14]
nubbins` i'm not sure of the specifics. the clear section has a hologram ribbon embedded in it [04:14]
nubbins` and i'm pretty sure it's a different polymer than the rest of the note [04:15]
mod6 yeah, those are just probably inserted as a strip during or before the lamination process. [04:15]
mircea_popescu are they huge or is the kbd really small [04:15]
* BingoBoingo (~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo) has left #bitcoin-assets [04:16]
nubbins` macbook keyboard, regular size bills (for us, anyway) [04:16]
nubbins` ~150x70mm? [04:17]
nubbins` 2.75x6" [04:17]
mircea_popescu is that the largest bill ? [04:18]
mod6 i know the length of $1 is 6" for sure, the height seems about par with usd. [04:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6398 BTC [+] [04:18]
nubbins` denomination? yeah [04:18]
nubbins` canada is largely cashless [04:18]
nubbins` it's uncommon to see anything bigger than a 20 day-to-day [04:19]
KRS- not good [04:19]
KRS- amazing how many people are all up in BTC considering the price [04:20]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [04:20]
nubbins` there was a $1,000 note until 2000 [04:20]
nubbins` it was removed from circulation after they realized it was only being used to launder money [04:21]
nubbins` http://www.cdnpapermoney.com/images/Birds/1988_1000f.jpg [04:21]
KRS- But then again hey can i buy 2USD of bitcoins off someone ? [04:21]
KRS- $2! [04:21]
mircea_popescu "launder money" = "use moneuy according to wishes of owners rather than government" ? [04:22]
nubbins` mp, precisely [04:22]
mircea_popescu well then fuck them. [04:22]
KRS- if one wanted to do that couldnt one just trade btc for gold directly? [04:22]
* BingoBoingo (~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:22]
nubbins` i can't argue with ya there [04:22]
KRS- one of the easier ways? [04:22]
nubbins` krs, shut up, you'll ruin it [04:22]
Apocalyptic KRS-, I've seen someone willing to buy 0.001 btc on #otc [04:23]
KRS- i have no idea what i'm saying i was looking for the #xbox chat room or something [04:23]
nubbins` go back to sleep! [04:23]
nubbins` -otc is a wasteland [04:24]
nubbins` infants trading pennies [04:24]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you don't understand. some people weren't happy with the direction it was evaporating into back in 2012. [04:24]
mircea_popescu it's much better nao. [04:24]
mircea_popescu and also gmaxwell isn't a rank imbecile, as certain evil people might have you believe. [04:24]
nubbins` it used to be worse? :0 [04:26]
mircea_popescu no, i'm just sarcastic. [04:26]
* chsados has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:27]
nubbins` ooo, slipped it past me [04:27]
mircea_popescu interwebs are slippery for sarcasm. [04:27]
Namworld I was reading comments on a canadian news website (yes, I'm currently very bored) when someone purporting to be American he was surprised pretty much every commenter was writing with full sentences and properly. It's true. [04:27]
Namworld Even agressive comments are polites. [04:28]
nubbins` ugh [04:28]
nubbins` never read the comments [04:28]
nubbins` it always degenerates into "loony lefties" or "harper's goons" [04:28]
nubbins` or bleating about immigration reform [04:29]
mircea_popescu o wow, canada has like politics and everything ? [04:29]
mircea_popescu how adowabwe. [04:29]
nubbins` mp, i think we even have eleckshuns too [04:29]
nubbins` not sure of spelling [04:29]
Namworld Yes, it's almost as if was a country. [04:29]
mircea_popescu that it'd have, even pakistan has those :D [04:29]
nubbins` there's a "Senate scandal" going on right now [04:29]
nubbins` for some reason, we have a bunch of ex-journalists in the senate [04:30]
mircea_popescu http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2013/11/07/botched-nc-traffic-alert-warns-of-women-drivers-rain-obama-care/ [04:30]
ozbot Botched NC Traffic Alert Warns Of ‘Women Drivers, Rain, Obama Care’ « CBS Charlotte [04:30]
mircea_popescu "The North Carolina Department of Transportation sent out a traffic alert, warning people of female drivers, rain and Obamacare." [04:30]
nubbins` and it came to light that they've been grossly enriching themselves in ways that they shouldn't [04:30]
mircea_popescu no improper sex tho ? [04:30]
nubbins` nothing so far [04:31]
nubbins` given the perps, i hope not [04:31]
mircea_popescu so i guess it'll take you 10-20 years to catch up to the us then ? [04:31]
nubbins` http://i.cbc.ca/1.2416290.1383710703!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/image.jpg [04:31]
Namworld Botched NC Traffic Alert? Sounds like a prank. [04:31]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: depends on if the liberals get elected again [04:32]
Namworld [21:31] given the perps, i hope not [04:32]
Namworld An important point... [04:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 125 @ 0.00109 = 0.1363 BTC [-] [04:32]
nubbins` conservative government is canada's reset button [04:32]
mircea_popescu 1sow2pigs [04:33]
nubbins` duffy (left) truly is a pig [04:33]
nubbins` "Duffy is also the asshole who, at the funeral of former Liberal prime minister Pierre Trudeau in 2000, reminded his grieving widow that it was also the birthday of her son Michel, who died in an avalanche in 1998." [04:35]
mircea_popescu ew [04:36]
* mjoiii_ has quit () [04:41]
* mjoiii_ (~AndChat52@108-162-153-218.cable.teksavvy.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:42]
mike_c gonna need bigger strikes on mpex soon! [04:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 68 @ 0.04620001 = 3.1416 BTC [+] [04:45]
mike_c won't be able to buy atm options in a week [04:46]
* benkay has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [04:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 95 @ 0.001087 = 0.1033 BTC [-] [04:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6398 BTC [+] [04:51]
mircea_popescu mike_c yeah ;/ [04:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7215 @ 0.00082669 = 5.9646 BTC [-] {2} [04:59]
* mjr_ has quit (Quit: mjr_) [05:01]
* Kleeck has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [05:08]
* mittyb (~mittyb@cpe-74-71-122-154.twcny.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [05:09]
* mittyb has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [05:09]
* tomthebarbarian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00605 = 0.1755 BTC [+] [05:26]
* tyrion70 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:31]
* tyrion70 (~Adium@unaffiliated/tyrion70) has joined #bitcoin-assets [05:31]
* benkay (~user@200.125.83.3) has joined #bitcoin-assets [05:42]
* Andiz has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [05:43]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/587/litecoin-to-rise-above-4-usd-before-dec/ [05:46]
ozbot BitBet - Litecoin to rise above 4 USD before Dec 25th [05:46]
mircea_popescu ltc to teh moon! [05:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00246932 = 0.4198 BTC [+] {2} [05:47]
KRS- lol [05:49]
KRS- can we do one to $5 before Dec 25 [05:49]
* hdheuzbsiwhdb has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [05:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.31701 = 0.951 BTC [+] [05:51]
mircea_popescu sure. [05:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 0.54745081 = 547.4508 BTC [-] [05:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.317 = 0.951 BTC [-] [05:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.313 = 1.252 BTC [-] [05:53]
* Andiz (~Andiz@69-165-148-25.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [05:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31200002 = 0.624 BTC [-] [05:54]
benkay http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=1-year&resolution=day&pair=btc-usd&market=mtgox [05:54]
benkay http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=1-year&resolution=day&pair=ltc-usd&market=btc-e [05:54]
ozbot BTC/USD 1-year charts from Mt.Gox [05:54]
ozbot LTC/USD 1-year charts from BTC-e [05:54]
benkay http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=3-months&resolution=day&pair=btc-usd&market=mtgox [05:54]
benkay http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=3-months&resolution=day&pair=ltc-usd&market=btc-e [05:54]
ozbot BTC/USD 3-months charts from Mt.Gox [05:54]
ozbot LTC/USD 3-months charts from BTC-e [05:54]
benkay pretty tightly correlated, neglecting growing pains. [05:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.00246954 = 0.1309 BTC [+] [06:02]
mike_c 500 btc put? no comment? [06:03]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 0.54737769 = 547.3777 BTC [-] [06:04]
mike_c man, i hope he's going to hedge that [06:04]
mike_c 1100 btc in puts is a bold bet. [06:04]
benkay relative to your stash, perhaps. [06:05]
BingoBoingo mike_c: You forget the gem chasers are controlling prices at the moment [06:05]
mike_c so, a miner is happy to spend 300k in insurance for 3 weeks? [06:06]
mike_c if it is a speculator, i don't care how big their stash is. that's a big bet! [06:06]
benkay mpoe took the other side [06:09]
benkay dunno what to tell you, mang [06:10]
benkay and "a miner" is unlikely [06:11]
benkay perhaps "a pool of miners representing an ungodly amount of hashing power" would be more plausible? [06:11]
mike_c but pool doesn't have control of all the funds to drop down a 1k hedge, do they? [06:12]
mike_c ;;calc 300 / .55 [06:12]
gribble 545.454545455 [06:12]
mike_c ;;calc 300 / 1.55 [06:12]
gribble 193.548387097 [06:12]
mike_c break-even at 193 [06:13]
mircea_popescu mike_c you weren't around the month that mpoe bot carried 1mn btc implied on the book were you [06:13]
mike_c uh, no. [06:13]
mircea_popescu yeah. well... [06:13]
mike_c well, then I am enjoying being excited at these kinds of things still :) Another year and I will be blase. [06:14]
* CheeseDooles has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [06:14]
mircea_popescu hehe it is pretty hefty. anyway ; [06:15]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-january-2013-statement/ 47k turnover in jan, 200k btc in contracts [06:15]
ozbot MPOE, January 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [06:15]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/ 50k in march, ~500k btc in contracts [06:16]
ozbot MPOE, March 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [06:16]
BingoBoingo I imagine the futures will pick up as the gem chasers continue their thing. [06:16]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1okwk7/chase_bank_limits_cash_withdrawals_bans/ [06:17]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P320T] 500 @ 0.54487298 = 272.4365 BTC [-] [06:17]
mircea_popescu hm. i wonder why so fixated on 320. [06:17]
mike_c it's the max? [06:17]
mircea_popescu ya but i mean, could have taken 1k 317s [06:18]
mike_c ;;calc 317 / 1.5327 [06:18]
gribble 206.82455797 [06:18]
mike_c yeah [06:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 109 @ 0.00246954 = 0.2692 BTC [+] [06:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 191 @ 0.00246955 = 0.4717 BTC [+] [06:20]
mircea_popescu if bitcoin does go back to last month those puts are worth a pretty coin. [06:21]
benkay if it does so within the month, that is. [06:21]
mircea_popescu yeah [06:21]
mircea_popescu doesn't really look likely tbh. but what do i know. [06:22]
asciilifeform from the honeypot dept: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/06/silk-road-2-0-launches-promising-a-resurrected-black-market-for-the-dark-web/ [06:22]
mike_c great minds! http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2013#371340 [06:23]
mircea_popescu you goldsterns you. [06:24]
KRS- SR v2.0 = FBI [06:24]
KRS- p33r [06:24]
mike_c they gotta put all those coins to work. heh, maybe the fbi bought all the puts. [06:24]
mircea_popescu lmao that'd be a good one. [06:25]
mircea_popescu someone should make FBI [06:25]
mircea_popescu Fund Bitcoin International or some shit [06:25]
asciilifeform when we see a sr clone with aerostat delivery, we'll know it's the real deal. [06:26]
asciilifeform (or not.) [06:26]
mircea_popescu FBI could be a Bitcoin-centric us congress lobbying group, insisting that each year the us spends $$$ to buy up bitcoins [06:26]
mike_c congress will make bitcoin extremely easy in the US as soon as they figure out it can hide campaign contributions [06:27]
BingoBoingo When's the last time anyone checked the FBI addresses? Maybe they learned to GPG and bought a key registration on MPEx? [06:27]
mircea_popescu someone made a gpg excel extension or something ? [06:28]
asciilifeform that would be FBI', the other FBI. just like there is (or ought to be) an NSA', where they keep people who know how to set up 'iptables' on the 1st try. [06:28]
asciilifeform (as classic nsa clearly does not, if the 3rd tor 'leak' is to be believed.) [06:29]
mircea_popescu incidentally, [06:30]
mircea_popescu http://www.anonsweden.se/?p=4106 [06:30]
asciilifeform mostly botnet traffic, as far as i can tell. [06:31]
mircea_popescu “One of the big enlightenments that we had at a certain point is that people don’t want to buy security software. They want peace of mind.” [06:31]
mircea_popescu i like this peace of mind euphemism. [06:31]
asciilifeform peace as in: 'rest in...' [06:31]
mircea_popescu you could also say “No man, who has endeavored to carry out an enterprise where many hands were needed, but has been well nigh appalled at times by the imbecility of the average man- the inability or unwillingness to concentrate on a thing and do it,” Hubbard writes. “Slip-shod assistance, foolish inattention, dowdy indifference, & half-hearted work seem the rule…” [06:31]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/357/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-500-by-the/ [06:34]
ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin price to rise above $500 by the end of 2013 [06:34]
mircea_popescu nice odds on that thing [06:34]
BingoBoingo As far as I know Outlook has, or at least had a GPG extension. Maybe they ported PyMPEx to an Excel macro? [06:34]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: to pdp-8. [06:35]
mircea_popescu that thing'd kick ass. [06:35]
mircea_popescu anyway, for the first time in many weeks the diff is flagging [06:36]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin.png [06:36]
BingoBoingo So... in other news NetBSD has their own GPG like program called NetPG. Built on the Mac SE/30 [06:36]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin.png even [06:36]
mircea_popescu .d [06:37]
ozbot 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 1649 blocks | Estimated Change: 7.3214% in 10d 14h 33m 13s [06:37]
BingoBoingo It's still generating the first keypair... [06:37]
* jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:37]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo maybe it uses really good entropy [06:37]
asciilifeform lemmings from the last wave of asicism tossing their miners in the skip in the wake of the middle kingdom's Great Wall of ASIC? [06:37]
* [7] has quit (Disconnected by services) [06:37]
benkay yeah, what ams happen with diff? [06:38]
* TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:38]
* nubbins` has quit (Quit: nubbins`) [06:38]
BingoBoingo Knc machines continuing to burn out? Block erupters and ASICMiner quitting? [06:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002031 = 0.2031 BTC [-] [06:38]
asciilifeform or maybe great wall blew a fuse. [06:39]
asciilifeform or the electric bill didn't make its way into the nth 5-year plan... [06:39]
mircea_popescu nothing goes on forever, [06:40]
mircea_popescu and mountains least of all. [06:40]
* CheeseDooles (~cheeseDoo@out-on-238.wireless.telus.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:41]
* jborkl has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [06:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00605 = 0.3025 BTC [+] [06:41]
* jborkl_ (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8755 @ 0.00012951 = 1.1339 BTC [-] {4} [06:42]
mircea_popescu http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2012/04/05/owe-irs-youre-not-going-anywhere/ [06:44]
mircea_popescu thisd is pretty juicy [06:44]
mircea_popescu Those “other purposes” have come to include a little-known amendment recently introduced by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid that would allow the State Department to revoke, deny or limit passports for anyone the Internal Revenue Service certifies as having “a seriously delinquent tax debt in an amount in excess of $50,000.” [06:44]
asciilifeform old news. [06:44]
mircea_popescu i only now saw it. [06:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1202 @ 0.002031 = 2.4413 BTC [-] {2} [06:47]
asciilifeform dekulakization, ever popular. [06:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00605 = 0.2299 BTC [+] [06:48]
* jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets [06:49]
asciilifeform only part that surprised me was the $50k. might as well 'owe parking fine? no passport.' [06:50]
mircea_popescu it reminds one of the "state secrets" thing. [06:50]
* lewicki has quit (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.) [06:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: soviet 'nevyezdnye' ? [06:52]
mircea_popescu отказник [06:52]
asciilifeform (knew too much. non-exportable. physicists, etc) [06:52]
asciilifeform that was more of a 'fuck, we won't let all the phd's out simultaneously' [06:53]
mircea_popescu yeah. [06:53]
* jborkl_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [06:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.00605 = 0.3933 BTC [+] [06:54]
mircea_popescu but generally, the reason joe e jew couldn't go to israel was that 20 eyars prior during his conscription [06:54]
mircea_popescu he had once seen the inside of a t34 fuel tank [06:54]
mircea_popescu or some shit. [06:54]
asciilifeform right [06:54]
asciilifeform here in the 'civilized' u.s. they'll do it 'humanely.' pay your ransom and get out, don't come back. like in (early) GDR. [06:55]
mircea_popescu which incidentally aren't more famous than the ak47s only because they were too expensive for average people [06:55]
mircea_popescu otherwise it's about as good. [06:55]
asciilifeform quite. [06:55]
asciilifeform betcha there are still '34s puttering around pakistan or some other pesthole. [06:56]
mircea_popescu there are 34s used to train teh nato troops of romania. [06:56]
benkay i'm out [06:56]
benkay fuck that place [06:56]
asciilifeform while inside? or target practice. [06:56]
mircea_popescu no no, how to pilot a tank w/o a shaft [06:56]
mircea_popescu also how to fix tracks [06:57]
asciilifeform nobody cancelled slipped tracks. [06:57]
mircea_popescu it was dearly beloved historically by romanians. the mo of the romanian army (which incidentally was one of the problems of leningrad) was to use the shitty czech skodas they had to force the russian crew out of a t34 [06:58]
mircea_popescu and then use that. [06:58]
asciilifeform just like russians would club a german with 'ppsh' and take his schmeisser... [06:58]
mircea_popescu yheah. [06:58]
mircea_popescu it was like "every destroyed t34 is a sad loss" sort of thing. [06:59]
asciilifeform or americans in vietnam, clubbing the enemy with jammed m16 and take his rifle. [06:59]
* transisto has quit () [07:00]
mircea_popescu is the ppsh the one where they had to pool the cartridges for the entire regiment and then sort them by size ? [07:01]
mircea_popescu as everything was slightly different [07:01]
asciilifeform the one that would go full auto if you dropped it. [07:01]
asciilifeform re: vietnam: [07:01]
asciilifeform "The VC used this recovered equipment to equip there own rather meager supplies as would any good guerilla force. The intercepted document reinforced this practice, exhorting the VC troops to [07:01]
asciilifeform police the battle fields for usable equipment. This document however, had one telling [07:01]
asciilifeform exception to the rule. It stated that all equipment was to be picked up with the exception of [07:01]
asciilifeform "the little black rifle" which is useless to our cause!" [07:01]
asciilifeform http://jouster.com/saga_of_M16/saga_of_the_m16_part_2.pdf [07:02]
mircea_popescu lol [07:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.639999 BTC [+] [07:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+] [07:05]
* MustardKing has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [07:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 246 @ 0.00585002 = 1.4391 BTC [-] {2} [07:08]
* naemsi has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:09]
BingoBoingo Well they still use SAVILLE for voice transmissions. If the guns themselves are diddled into non-functionality Suite A probably is too, so leave the radios [07:10]
asciilifeform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Eldest_Son [07:11]
* naemsi (~wanderwah@gateway/tor-sasl/wanderwah) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:12]
asciilifeform gotta wonder, how many 'own goals' this scored. [07:12]
* transisto (~TransistO@modemcable093.28-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:13]
* CheeseDooles has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [07:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.64 = 1.28 BTC [+] [07:16]
BingoBoingo Probably quite a few. A few years ago there were stories about how Green Berets were growing beards and dressing like locals to not get shot in more remote areas of Afghanistan. I wonder how many drone operators seeing armed men of military age... Well this is plaintext... [07:17]
* zoinky has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [07:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.67699 = 1.354 BTC [+] {2} [07:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.70451393 = 30.2941 BTC [+] {10} [07:26]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo drones are run from langley [07:26]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Actually mostly from various california installations, less lag [07:26]
* benkay has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [07:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.721 BTC [+] [07:27]
mircea_popescu lagley lol [07:27]
BingoBoingo At least that's what every "Day in the life of an IRL Flight Sim Pro" confessional story says [07:28]
* Andiz has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [07:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0063437 = 0.222 BTC [+] [07:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.72219999 = 19.4994 BTC [+] {2} [07:29]
mircea_popescu i wonder if i'm the only one who reads appaling crud like http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-glyn-williams/the-killing-of-hakimullah_b_4225444.html and thinks of the fakir of ipi. [07:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00082956 = 2.6546 BTC [+] {2} [07:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.721 BTC [-] [07:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00634339 = 0.6914 BTC [-] {2} [07:30]
KRS- something awful is good too [07:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 413 @ 0.00200939 = 0.8299 BTC [-] {4} [07:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00635491 = 0.4385 BTC [+] {4} [07:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-] [07:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 227 @ 0.00635836 = 1.4433 BTC [+] {3} [07:34]
* transisto has quit () [07:36]
KRS- could you imagine the terror drones puts in those towelheads [07:36]
* transisto (~TransistO@modemcable093.28-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:36]
KRS- i bet they're afraid most of the time to strap on their sandals and leave their huts [07:36]
mircea_popescu if the towelheads were your average supermarket cashier from ohio at least. [07:37]
KRS- that particular assassination (drone strike) should never have happened..now additional lives will be lost without more peace talks [07:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00635823 = 0.6676 BTC [-] {2} [07:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.0063584 = 0.2098 BTC [+] [07:40]
* chsados (~chsados@unaffiliated/chsados) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:41]
BingoBoingo Well the most disturbing thing I find about drone strikes now is Obama saw the suicide bomber tactic of the double tap where a second weapon hit first responders and decided "That's cool we will start doing that shit too nao" [07:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00644894 = 1.2898 BTC [+] {8} [07:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform https://www.google.com/search?q=german+soldier+with+PPSh-41&complete=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch [07:42]
mircea_popescu check that shit out. apparently the germans salvaged the ppsh! [07:42]
KRS- where did you get that from bingoboingo [07:42]
mircea_popescu ;;google drone strike double tap [07:42]
gribble BBC News - Drones kill rescuers in 'double tap', say activists: ; Get the Data: The return of double-tap drone strikes | The Bureau of ...: ; US Drone Tweets Reveal 'Double Tap' Plan - Business Insider: (1 more message) [07:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00650784 = 0.3384 BTC [+] {3} [07:42]
KRS- Thanks- [07:42]
KRS- Looks like a weapon to compete with our Thompsons [07:43]
BingoBoingo KRS-: http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2013/11/03/double_down_obama_said_he_s_really_good_at_killing_people.html No Infowars or other conspiracy site needed [07:43]
KRS- those are reputible sites for accurate info? [07:43]
KRS- thats messed up [07:44]
BingoBoingo Well, it is a story critical of Obama in a fairly mainstream publication [07:45]
KRS- cant believe he's the best we could come up with..of all the intelligent ment [07:45]
KRS- men and women [07:45]
mircea_popescu intelligent men and women don't want the job. [07:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.735 = 1.47 BTC [+] {2} [07:46]
KRS- hah good one [07:47]
BingoBoingo It's also the matter of the US has on armed gang then has popular elections between two parties the armed gang finds equally unobjectionable to its causes [07:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 101 @ 0.00674606 = 0.6814 BTC [+] {3} [07:48]
* transisto has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:49]
KRS- well..yeah. [07:49]
KRS- the prez can only mobilize 10K troops without declaring war [07:49]
* transisto (~TransistO@modemcable093.28-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:50]
BingoBoingo KRS-: Well since the first president Roosevelt and the Great white fleet presidents have been testing the limits of that. [07:51]
* transisto has quit (Client Quit) [07:52]
* transisto (~TransistO@modemcable093.28-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:53]
* transisto is now known as Transisto [07:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 140 @ 0.0462 = 6.468 BTC [-] {2} [07:54]
* Transisto has quit (Client Quit) [07:54]
* Transisto (~TransistO@modemcable093.28-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:54]
KRS- I'm ashamed of what our country has come to.. we stood for some really good things and worthy causes (and still do afaik). [07:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 30 @ 0.04606673 = 1.382 BTC [-] {3} [07:55]
KRS- I think its cool we use our heft against human rights violations but on the other hand it sucks my government is disregarding basic rights. [07:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 161 @ 0.045001 = 7.2452 BTC [-] [07:56]
KRS- like privacy [07:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 502 @ 0.045 = 22.59 BTC [-] {4} [07:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00674998 = 0.1282 BTC [+] [07:59]
* louong (~louong@unaffiliated/louong) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:01]
* BingoBoingo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:01]
* BingoBoingo (~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:02]
* tyrion70 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:04]
* tyrion70 (~Adium@unaffiliated/tyrion70) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3349729 BTC [+] [08:06]
* DiabloD3 (~diablo@pool-64-222-229-141.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31000061 BTC [-] [08:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [-] [08:12]
* Diablo-D3 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [08:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+] [08:17]
* skinnkavaj has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [08:17]
* djcoin (~d@ppp121-44-117-252.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:19]
* djcoin is now known as Guest97785 [08:19]
* b0n1 (~carly@massmann.mhn.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:25]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [12:02]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading [12:02]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Sun Sep 29 03:06:59 2013 [12:02]
* truffles (~truffles@dsl-vsabrasgw1-58c1a8-182.dhcp.inet.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:02]
* #bitcoin-assets :You're not a channel operator [12:03]
* #bitcoin-assets :You're not a channel operator [12:04]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej5n2oieXYo [12:09]
ozbot Creedence Clearwater Revival - Bad Moon Rising (Live The Johnny Cash TV Show 1969).avi - YouTube [12:09]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [12:17]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 330.5, Best ask: 330.6021, Bid-ask spread: 0.10210, Last trade: 330.6, 24 hour volume: 58990.27418492, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 338.34999, 24 hour vwap: 312.21449 [12:17]
DiabloD3 wat [12:19]
jurov even bitstamp got pushed >300 [12:21]
jurov er...310 [12:21]
* darkFunc has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:28]
davout lol [12:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000139 = 0.139 BTC [+] [12:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 335 @ 0.001094 = 0.3665 BTC [+] [12:40]
* fanquake (~anonymous@unaffiliated/fanquake) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:46]
* daybyter (~andreas@88-134-88-179-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:52]
mircea_popescu sooo, mpex now lists options from 110 to 980 [13:06]
mircea_popescu jurov ^ [13:06]
jurov oh? [13:06]
jurov oh... [13:06]
mircea_popescu $vwap O.USD.C110T [13:06]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [13:06]
mircea_popescu $depth O.USD.C110T [13:06]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: O.USD.C110T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.63542938', '1000 @ 0.63542938'] [13:06]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.9078359', '1000 @ 0.90783593'] [13:06]
mircea_popescu $depth O.USD.P980T [13:06]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: O.USD.P980T Bids: ['1000 @ 2.27172015', '1000 @ 2.27172015'] [13:07]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 4.0090038', '1000 @ 4.00900388'] [13:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00660091 = 0.1056 BTC [-] [13:07]
jurov $depth O.USD.C980N [13:08]
mpexbot jurov: O.USD.C980N Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08', '1000 @ 2e-08'] [13:08]
mpexbot jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.17958811', '1000 @ 0.17958826'] [13:08]
jurov ;;calc 980/(1-0.18) [13:09]
gribble 1195.12195122 [13:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082657 = 3.3889 BTC [-] [13:11]
mircea_popescu fucking insanity on a stick, this year i had to do this THREE TIMES [13:12]
mircea_popescu does anyone even remember what the options tableau was in like, 15th jan ? [13:12]
jurov you should change to scientific notation [13:12]
mircea_popescu or how scandalously excessive a max of 320 was back in april ? [13:12]
jurov lol O.USD.9.8E2N [13:12]
mircea_popescu lol [13:13]
mircea_popescu jurov word up : at this rate next year we'll be ditching a zero, so 1500 usd will be o.usd.c150t [13:13]
mircea_popescu im not implementing fucking scientific notation. parabolic asset from hell jesus god. [13:14]
jurov not parabolic. exponential :D [13:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.0008295 = 6.0968 BTC [+] [13:15]
* BlueHelix (~cmp@unaffiliated/bluehelix) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00194647 = 0.2044 BTC [-] {5} [13:16]
jurov have to go afk, will add them in ~ 2 hrs. [13:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1197 @ 0.00176741 = 2.1156 BTC [-] {4} [13:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 185 @ 0.001761 = 0.3258 BTC [-] [13:18]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P950T] 670 @ 2.17147362 = 1454.8873 BTC [13:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.001761 = 0.5283 BTC [-] [13:19]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P965T] 715 @ 2.22159689 = 1588.4418 BTC [13:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P980T] 765 @ 2.27172015 = 1737.8659 BTC [13:20]
mircea_popescu uh [13:20]
mircea_popescu well at least the book is balanced now... sorta... [13:21]
* DiabloD3 has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) [13:27]
pankkake ;;bc,stats [13:33]
gribble Current Blocks: 268524 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 1619 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 10 hours, 53 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 534474198.715 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.60816 [13:33]
pankkake now that is weird [13:33]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2013#372669 [13:34]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [13:34]
* daybyter has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:35]
mircea_popescu talking to gold bugs is so fucking funny. [13:42]
mircea_popescu pretty much all of them are terribly butthurt at bitcoin, because "here we have been pouring blood sweat and tears into accumulating precious metal [13:42]
mircea_popescu and now these nerds are getting all the good stuff we should have gotten long ago. unfair! scam!" [13:42]
Perlboy hmmms [13:44]
Perlboy my gold and bitcoin holdings are (or at least were until last week :P) equal. [13:44]
mircea_popescu ya well, older people usually didn't have that much sense [13:45]
Perlboy golds a good investment still though tbh. [13:46]
Perlboy "for the real world" anyways [13:46]
Perlboy bitcoin is a crazy investment that you do when you got money you can lose [13:46]
Perlboy ie. young and stupid. :) [13:46]
Perlboy and you'd have to be uber stupid to buy in @ $300 now... [13:46]
Perlboy better to get setup and funded in an account [13:46]
Perlboy and wait for the inevitable tank [13:47]
Perlboy which might be after $1000 :) [13:47]
Perlboy i dare say the days of <$100 BTC are kinda distant though [13:47]
mircea_popescu notrly that stupid tbh. [13:47]
Perlboy 266 -> 50 was the last big correction. [13:47]
Perlboy based on that if we get to 500 going below $100 on correct seems unlikely. [13:48]
Perlboy mircea_popescu, oh i'm bullish and holdin [13:48]
Perlboy just saying if you were new to it all and actually looked at the charts [13:48]
Perlboy you'd either have to be long term (which is unlikely if you just jumped in and are suddenly buying) [13:48]
Perlboy or be ready to halve your cash when u get caught out [13:49]
Perlboy s/when/if/ [13:49]
Perlboy or get real lucky and make what, 20%? [13:49]
Perlboy i tell you a bubble right now. [13:49]
Perlboy ltc... total powder keg it's turned into. [13:50]
KRS- you think ltc is getting ready to blast off? [13:51]
Perlboy it already has. [13:53]
Perlboy $1.5 4 weeks ago. [13:53]
Perlboy peak of 4.5 now. [13:53]
Perlboy 300% in 4 weeks. [13:53]
Perlboy and unsustainable too [13:54]
Perlboy compare the 3 month chart of ltc [13:54]
Perlboy vs. btc.. [13:54]
Perlboy this rise on btc looks a lot more sustainable [13:54]
Perlboy ltc rise looks like btc's bubble pop [13:54]
* jurov runs litecoind getinfo [13:54]
jurov all okay [13:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.0019 = 0.1938 BTC [+] {2} [13:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 350 @ 0.001094 = 0.3829 BTC [+] [13:54]
* jurov tells kakobrekla and all wannabe scammers that lines like this are not logged :) [13:55]
* jurov and where did you put the corpse? [13:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 750 @ 0.00109002 = 0.8175 BTC [-] [13:57]
* kleeck (~kleeck@50-77-168-189-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.72 = 2.16 BTC [-] {2} [13:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.701 = 17.525 BTC [-] [14:01]
jurov oh my mpex changed the options strikes spacing to 15? and i'm still selling 020s ? /o [14:01]
* sylencr (~anonymous@60-240-221-57.tpgi.com.au) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:04]
* bitesak (5c6a1002@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.16.2) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:06]
jurov guess i'll have to add a cronjob to grep mpex frontpage for each of my assets ... [14:07]
KRS- yuck [14:08]
jurov oh and compare checksum the faq when i'm on it [14:08]
* sylencr has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:09]
jurov *while [14:09]
* sylencr (~anonymous@60-240-221-57.tpgi.com.au) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:09]
bitesak ;;ticker [14:10]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 331.00001, Best ask: 331.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.99998, Last trade: 331.0, 24 hour volume: 51646.40621339, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 338.34999, 24 hour vwap: 313.48765 [14:10]
* sylencr has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:11]
* sylencr (~anonymous@60-240-221-57.tpgi.com.au) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:12]
* bitesak has quit (Quit: Page closed) [14:12]
kleeck .d [14:13]
ozbot 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 1613 blocks | Estimated Change: 4.2120% in 10d 17h 12m 47s [14:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00013429 = 1.3429 BTC [+] {2} [14:17]
mircea_popescu jurov lol but i just announced! [14:21]
mircea_popescu Perlboy yeah. i kinda think longterm, but you have a point. [14:21]
* sylencr has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:22]
mircea_popescu jurov and there's not any way you could have actually sold 20s i don't think. [14:23]
jurov that's just me bitching [14:23]
jurov and there really still were 020s till yest... so i'm not so much behind times as i thought upon first moment [14:24]
jurov :) [14:24]
mircea_popescu :p [14:25]
jurov fuck these blow stamps... they not just break character but completely mess up time perception, too. [14:25]
mircea_popescu waitwaht ? [14:26]
jurov .ud blow stamps [14:26]
kleeck lol [14:26]
kleeck I love that term [14:26]
kleeck Or as my troll friends call them, "CrimeCoins". [14:27]
mircea_popescu i rthought they came up with a new type of acid blotter [14:27]
mircea_popescu kleeck you should let your friends know them crimecoins are about to turn into yourgfissuckingmeoffcoins [14:27]
* digibetacam (~digibetac@80.153.90.233) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:27]
kleeck I let them know that constantly. [14:28]
jurov putasharpieintheasscoins [14:28]
jurov *putasharpieinyerasscoins [14:28]
mircea_popescu actually lasscoin never happened ? [14:28]
kleeck shoeonheaddickinouthCoins [14:28]
mircea_popescu what's a nouth [14:28]
kleeck ;ud nouth [14:29]
mircea_popescu i rthought they came up with a new type of asshole. [14:29]
mircea_popescu !b 12 [14:29]
assbot Last 12 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1448555/plain/) [14:29]
kleeck ;;ud nouth [14:29]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nouth | to crop your facebook photo of just your nose and mouth. [14:29]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: nouth [14:29]
* MustardKing (~Poupon@unaffiliated/mrjiffy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:29]
mircea_popescu bah that didn't co9me out right. [14:29]
mircea_popescu !b 32 [14:30]
assbot Last 32 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1448556/plain/) [14:30]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell kakobrekla http://dpaste.com/1448556/plain/ starting from "jurov: fuck these blow stamps" [14:30]
gribble The operation succeeded. [14:30]
kleeck That's cool. [14:31]
kleeck Messaging system? [14:31]
mircea_popescu yeah. [14:31]
mircea_popescu next time gribble sees him it goes "o hey, milk!" [14:31]
kleeck When he logs in does he get notified or PMd? [14:31]
mircea_popescu pm'd [14:31]
kleeck Cool. [14:31]
mircea_popescu not when he logs in, next gribble sees him speak [14:31]
kleeck I see. [14:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31000061 = 0.62 BTC [-] [14:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 691 @ 0.00109 = 0.7532 BTC [-] {2} [14:35]
* guruvan has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:36]
* saulimus (~someone@37-219-46-62.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 592 @ 0.00108601 = 0.6429 BTC [-] {3} [14:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.31000061 = 2.17 BTC [-] {2} [14:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-] [14:38]
* sylencr (3cf0dd39@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.60.240.221.57) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:39]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/bitcoin-is-creating-a-whole-new-set-of-problems/ [14:41]
ozbot Bitcoin is creating a whole new set of problems pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [14:41]
mircea_popescu old article appreciation hour [14:41]
* _mjoiii (~AndChat52@199-7-156-150.eng.wind.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:41]
* mjoiii_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:42]
* mjoiii_ (~AndChat52@108-162-153-218.cable.teksavvy.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:42]
kleeck .d [14:43]
ozbot 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 1612 blocks | Estimated Change: 3.7671% in 10d 18h 11m 18s [14:43]
kleeck So, wasn't the TNH over 4PH/s? [14:43]
mircea_popescu 3.x, estimated around 4 [14:43]
kleeck It has dipped apparently. [14:44]
kleeck https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate [14:44]
ozbot Bitcoin Hash Rate [14:44]
kleeck But that looks to be a regular pattern. [14:44]
mircea_popescu well, it stopped booming yesterday [14:44]
* mjoiii__ (~AndChat52@199-7-156-144.eng.wind.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:44]
mircea_popescu you have to understand hash guessing is a dirty process mostly based on statistics [14:45]
kleeck high of ~4.1 and then the dip to 3.4 today. [14:45]
kleeck But look back on that graph you see similar behavior over the last month. [14:46]
mircea_popescu http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/31/coinchat/ [14:46]
ozbot Coinchat Is A Chatroom Where Talking Sense Earns You Bitcoin | TechCrunch [14:46]
mircea_popescu isn't techcrunch a useful resource :D [14:46]
* _mjoiii has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [14:46]
* mjoiii_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:46]
kleeck Ooh. [14:46]
kleeck That's like, what we do here, but we can get paid?! [14:46]
kleeck By "we" I mean like, four of you. [14:47]
kleeck The rest are just little shits. [14:47]
kleeck :) [14:47]
* MustardKing has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:48]
mircea_popescu i think you missed a layer of lol in there. [14:48]
sylencr Same developer as input.io [14:48]
sylencr ... [14:48]
kleeck Ah. So this glorious pay-to-chat was run by the inputs.io guy... [14:48]
kleeck lol [14:48]
mircea_popescu myeah. [14:48]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283756.msg3505043#msg3505043 [14:50]
ozbot CoinLenders Script :: Bitcoin Bank (Borrow+Deposit) Software :: Demo Available [14:50]
mircea_popescu "what about coinlenders balance then? [14:50]
mircea_popescu can we give you a bitcoin address and you send us our coins?" [14:50]
mircea_popescu the post-march retards are so adowable. [14:50]
mircea_popescu i imagine with the current lift we;ll get a new set of post-november retards, making the previous set look smart by comparison. [14:50]
* sylencr has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [14:52]
* Guest97785 has quit (Quit: Guest97785) [14:53]
Neil ;;prevdiffchange [14:59]
gribble 30.69637 [14:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share [15:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1600 @ 0.00108601 = 1.7376 BTC [-] {2} [15:04]
jurov options added. mircea_popescu: looks like mpoebot did not set order expiration right? [15:04]
mircea_popescu jurov he's getting greedy :p [15:04]
jurov heh [15:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 825 @ 0.001086 = 0.896 BTC [-] [15:05]
firedrops AMAGI or Coinabul? which is a better vendor? [15:06]
mircea_popescu firedrops coinabul is run by an oldtimer (coingenuity). amagi i dunno [15:08]
dexX7 hey mp, what's your call for this journey? in april it was 100. [15:09]
firedrops interesting, coinabul prices in BTC, amagi in in USD. [15:09]
firedrops ;;ticker [15:10]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 338.90001, Best ask: 339.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 338.9, 24 hour volume: 50588.88029688, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 340.0, 24 hour vwap: 315.01105 [15:10]
mircea_popescu dexX7 i'd say we're still within reason. [15:10]
dexX7 coinabul had some shady incidences in the past, there is much on the forum [15:10]
firedrops yes, I had some issues with an order, but Idon't know if AMAGI is any better... could be the same guy. [15:10]
mircea_popescu pretty sure it's not the same guy. what issues did you have ? [15:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00739555 = 0.3328 BTC [+] {4} [15:11]
firedrops they were fixed, in time, but mostly just zero to slow communication. [15:11]
mircea_popescu myeah. it's what i gathered as to the explosion of forum complaints. poor communication skills on one hand coupled with mean/marginalyl dishonest "customers" on the other [15:12]
* freshcoin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:12]
coingenuity firedrops: we've been in an all-out war with the banking community, as have been most large bitcoin companies in the last few months... my apologies for the lax communication, as you can imagine with the delays our support guys have been swamped [15:13]
dexX7 are you affiliated with coinabul? [15:13]
mircea_popescu he runs it. [15:13]
firedrops coingenuity: no worries mate, we've been sorted for over a year, that's why I'm looking into using you again... [15:14]
coingenuity ah, for sure, thanks for your patience- keeping up with growth can be difficult sometimes [15:14]
firedrops i hear you. it's a great problem to have. [15:15]
* nubbins` (~nubbins`@stjhnf0148w-142134201245.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nl.bellaliant.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:15]
* AusBitBank has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:15]
coingenuity heh, depends on the day - last few months have been depressing with the stuff going on behind the scenes in the financial world, but i'm keeping my chin up [15:15]
nubbins` good morning, fellow mammals [15:15]
coingenuity hard being told by 150 banks to go die in a fire [15:15]
mircea_popescu firedrops great problem to have as long as you're not an american living in the us [15:15]
coingenuity especially when all the places i had accounts closed me with 24h warning [15:15]
firedrops mircea_popescu: too fucking true [15:15]
mircea_popescu or generally a citizen of a state moving to socialism. [15:15]
nubbins` coingenuity: credit unions? [15:16]
coingenuity nubbins`: they told me "whoa bro, you're way too big for us" [15:16]
coingenuity :( [15:16]
mircea_popescu coingenuity how about you move before they stop issuing passports ? [15:16]
nubbins` hm [15:16]
coingenuity mircea_popescu: i've gotten set up with backup residency in other nations now as a result of the experience i've had in the last few months [15:17]
nubbins` yeah, amagi is located in colorado [15:17]
nubbins` haven't had any problems with them [15:17]
nubbins` and i guess they're not having issues with banks [15:17]
firedrops coingenuity, make sure your entire exit plan is sorted! to the minute.... [15:17]
mircea_popescu good. then once you finally move out of the shithole you can run my gold future. [15:17]
firedrops :) i want ot buy gold with btc for a long time.. [15:17]
coingenuity nubbins`: everyone is having problems with banks, if you're big enough [15:17]
nubbins` guess they're not big enough ;0 [15:17]
nubbins` it's funny, canada seems much more welcoming of btc-related business [15:18]
nubbins` never woulda thought [15:18]
mircea_popescu nubbins` in fairness they're a small outfit, but i never heard anything seriously wrong about them. [15:18]
coingenuity nubbins`: also, you can sneak under the radar for a minute but they'll catch you eventually and blacklist you from chexystems... so i am guessing they're playing with fire ;) [15:18]
coingenuity the last thing you want is a chexsystems ban [15:18]
nubbins` o :) [15:18]
coingenuity if you get a black-mark in chexsystems, you will be /fucked/ for the rest of your life [15:18]
coingenuity its baaaad [15:18]
nubbins` "The majority of banks using ChexSystems will not open a new deposit account for a customer that has a negative item reported." [15:19]
coingenuity and around 80% of all banks in the usa use chexsystems [15:19]
* skinnkavaj (~skinnkava@89.129.246.151) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:20]
* skinnkavaj has quit (Changing host) [15:20]
* skinnkavaj (~skinnkava@unaffiliated/skinnkavaj) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:20]
nubbins` shitty [15:20]
coingenuity so it's a bad bad thing to have happen to ya [15:20]
mircea_popescu coingenuity iirc it's a 5 year tyhing [15:20]
mircea_popescu also you can challenge it [15:20]
coingenuity mircea_popescu: only recently have chexsystems protections been enacted for banking consumers [15:20]
coingenuity but you're right, you can "challenge" it [15:20]
nubbins` challenging such agencies is generally a huge process [15:20]
coingenuity same way you can "challenge" paypal's freezing of you [15:20]
coingenuity lol [15:21]
nubbins` go ahead and try to get equifax to remove something from your record [15:21]
mircea_popescu actually paypal will issue a check if you sue them [15:21]
mircea_popescu but you have to actually file the papers. [15:21]
nubbins` ha [15:21]
nubbins` playing chicken [15:21]
nubbins` i wonder if casascius will respond to my post today [15:22]
mircea_popescu of course they'll also ban you, but then again it's their website/forum/we it is. [15:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00083238 = 6.3261 BTC [+] {2} [15:22]
mircea_popescu nubbins` http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/equifax-loses-credit-report-error-lawsuit/ [15:22]
nubbins` good for her [15:23]
nubbins` those companies hold too much power [15:23]
mircea_popescu it's usually that people don't quite have the ability ot use the courts. [15:23]
nubbins` nod [15:23]
nubbins` either due to lack of finances, time, know-how, or all three [15:24]
mircea_popescu it's also a matter of people being trained to be dependant on lawyers [15:24]
mircea_popescu which makes most people unable to reach the court at all [15:24]
nubbins` double nod [15:24]
mircea_popescu as many counties simply do not have a lawyer that will take a vast majority of cases [15:24]
nubbins` you can do it all yourself, but it's a bit overwhelming [15:24]
nubbins` and easy to miss things [15:25]
mircea_popescu yeah, that's not practical for average guy. [15:25]
mircea_popescu or for anyone who actually has a job. [15:25]
nubbins` i filed a simple damage claim for $3k about 3 months ago and it's still clattering around the justice system [15:25]
nubbins` drove to another city yesterday to file a paper "oh lel you need your wife's signature too" [15:25]
nubbins` went back today, "leel you can't file this until tuesday" [15:25]
mircea_popescu why don't you efile ?! [15:26]
* skinnkavaj has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:26]
nubbins` not an option in this case [15:26]
mircea_popescu mother of inconvenience. [15:26]
nubbins` besides, e-anything in this province requires IE :( [15:26]
mircea_popescu hahahaha WHAT [15:27]
nubbins` and i'm not installing a VM just to use my government's website [15:27]
nubbins` no joke, i had to register pink eye using paper forms [15:27]
nubbins` in 2013 [15:27]
mircea_popescu sillyness [15:29]
mircea_popescu well... ig uess you got all those trees... [15:29]
* b0n1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:29]
nubbins` https://twitter.com/Wu_Tang_Finance/status/398241873443049472 [15:30]
ozbot Twitter / Wu_Tang_Finance: @morningmoneyben Bitcoin Rules ... [15:30]
firedrops all of south korea uses IE [15:30]
firedrops http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/due-to-security-law-south-korea-is-stuck-with-internet-explorer-for-online-shopping/2013/11/03/ffd2528a-3eff-11e3-b028-de922d7a3f47_story.html [15:30]
ozbot South Korea is stuck with Internet Explorer for online shopping because of security law - The Washin [15:30]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: not only do we have trees, but we have a mill! http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/n-l-loses-abitibi-case-in-canada-s-top-court-1.1177333 [15:31]
nubbins` south korean online banking is all activex controls [15:31]
mircea_popescu firedrops omfg what [15:31]
nubbins` TBF you do need a private key issued by the bank to be installed on your PC tho [15:31]
nubbins` and they give you a one-time pad that you need as well [15:32]
mircea_popescu lmao who's that ben white fuckwit ? [15:32]
mircea_popescu o, cnbc. splendid, on mp's black list he goes. [15:32]
nubbins` "current POLITICO Chief Economic Correspondent and Morning Money columnist, CNBC contributor, ex nyt, ft, wapo. tweets often snarkastic" [15:32]
nubbins` he's so snarkastic! [15:32]
mircea_popescu curious how long until he discoveres further ways means and reasons to hate btc. [15:32]
mircea_popescu so is south korean banking about 50% hacking ? [15:34]
nubbins` i never had any problems w/ it, but all i'd ever do was dump money to send back home, so i never really held a balance [15:35]
mircea_popescu "a string of massive data thefts and cyberattacks in recent years." [15:37]
mircea_popescu anyway. [15:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5536 @ 0.00083268 = 4.6097 BTC [+] [15:37]
mircea_popescu The province had argued that its environmental protection cleanup orders were not "claims" under insolvency laws, and thereby fell outside that process. [15:38]
mircea_popescu the fuck. where do the bureaucrats get the nerve ? [15:38]
nubbins` many faces were red when this went down [15:38]
nubbins` big company closes mill, threatens to close another [15:39]
nubbins` government seizes assets [15:39]
nubbins` accidentally siezes shitty, polluting mill, is left on hook for enviro cleanup [15:39]
mircea_popescu wait a second. what do you mean "seizes assets" ? [15:39]
firedrops wow, that's ufcked [15:40]
nubbins` i mean exactly what it sounds like [15:40]
firedrops companies do that all the time... [15:40]
nubbins` they didn't like the way Abitibi was putting people out of work [15:40]
nubbins` so they said "what's yours is now ours" [15:40]
mircea_popescu The company filed a $500-million NAFTA challenge, settling two years ago for a $130-million payout from Ottawa. [15:40]
mircea_popescu lol. sweet. [15:41]
mircea_popescu hopefully the nf&l government has learned that being cocky costs 1/4 billion out of the budget. [15:41]
firedrops exxon has a site fenced off in houston, fenced my entire life, they have been pouring millions into it since '88 for very serious chemical spills. Luckily my city did not sieze it. [15:41]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: unfortunately, no [15:41]
mircea_popescu that's great, it means there's more 1/4 billions for the taking in the nf&l tax chest. [15:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.05146666 = 0.1544 BTC [-] {2} [15:42]
nubbins` altho the premier at the time all that was happening is now back in the private sector [15:43]
nubbins` after having conveniently purchased a massive city-sized piece of land from the province [15:43]
mircea_popescu "Environment Minister Tom Hedderson said the province must still do assessments for any necessary cleanups, but Hedderson would not be drawn into a discussion on timelines." [15:43]
mircea_popescu o wait. now it's no longer a matter of deadlines, is it [15:43]
mircea_popescu ha-ha. [15:43]
nubbins` industry has deadlines, government has timelines ;) [15:43]
mircea_popescu there is no way out of this crap other than complete bankruptcy for any and all public institutions. [15:44]
nubbins` newfoundland went bankrupt in the 1930s [15:45]
mircea_popescu the day the canadian governor general is in the street dancing for pennies you know rebuilding can start. [15:45]
nubbins` it didn't change anything D; [15:45]
mircea_popescu it didn't REALLY go bankrupt. [15:45]
mircea_popescu i mean weimar bankrupt. [15:45]
nubbins` a-ha! [15:45]
mircea_popescu i mean "we can't afford to buy any food this week, at all" bankrupt. [15:45]
nubbins` bankrupt enough that britain gave us away to canada ;p [15:45]
mircea_popescu lol [15:45]
nubbins` (srsly) [15:45]
mircea_popescu ya i kno. ideally they all go bankrupt at the same time, [15:46]
mircea_popescu so the us president is also in the street dancing for nickles. [15:46]
nubbins` but the bean counters! [15:46]
nubbins` you know people were seriously nominating william shatner for governor general? [15:46]
nubbins` like there was a campaign and everything? [15:46]
mircea_popescu i dunno wo that is [15:46]
* danpc_ (~Ogedei@unaffiliated/ogedei) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:46]
nubbins` star trek actor [15:46]
mircea_popescu o lol [15:46]
nubbins` http://trekcore.com/specials/rare/shatner_kirk11.jpg [15:47]
nubbins` seriously!! [15:47]
* b0n1 (~carly@massmann.mhn.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:47]
nubbins` scumbag journalists in the senate [15:47]
nubbins` and an actor as the queen's representative! [15:47]
nubbins` have we gone mad? [15:47]
mircea_popescu reagan worked well for the us. [15:47]
nubbins` heh [15:48]
nubbins` terminator worked well for california [15:48]
mircea_popescu actually he wasn't their worst. [15:48]
nubbins` my goodness [15:48]
mircea_popescu california is so utterly fucked however, baby jesus couldn't help [15:48]
nubbins` lel nod [15:49]
* Ogedei has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:49]
firedrops mickey mouse gets around 10k write in votes per presidential election... proof postive this place is fucked. [15:49]
mircea_popescu firedrops back in the communist days, the town fool in my town regularly won the election. [15:49]
nubbins` no write-in voting here [15:49]
mircea_popescu then the next day they'd report the 9x% whatever commie party result [15:49]
nubbins` oh, speaking of town elections [15:49]
firedrops sounds familiar [15:49]
nubbins` i've got a gem, hold on [15:49]
mircea_popescu but they went to the trouble of actually falsifying the ballots [15:49]
mircea_popescu took the poor fucks days [15:50]
firedrops he had to 'legitimize' his new power :) [15:50]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/wiseman-confirmed-mayor-of-paradise-1.818542 [15:50]
ozbot Wiseman confirmed mayor of Paradise - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News [15:50]
nubbins` incumbent mayor ties with 19-year-old kid for number of votes [15:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1203 BTC [-] [15:50]
nubbins` tiebreaker = drawing name from a recycling bin [15:50]
nubbins` hahaha [15:50]
mircea_popescu lol [15:51]
mircea_popescu you don't have 2nd run ? [15:51]
nubbins` i think they recounted a couple of times [15:52]
mjoiii__ How does a recount change the outcome? [15:52]
nubbins` 19 year old was sore, and demanded that another name-from-a-hat draw take place [15:52]
nubbins` mjoiii__: depends on how badly they fucked the count [15:52]
mjoiii__ Is there really that much variance in the counting itself? [15:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.007599 = 0.1368 BTC [+] [15:52]
nubbins` not in this instance [15:52]
firedrops can be, yes. [15:52]
mircea_popescu sure. [15:53]
mircea_popescu you can never get the same ballot count again no matter what [15:53]
mircea_popescu 1st rule of vote counting. [15:53]
nubbins` 1,821 votes each, you recount [15:53]
nubbins` now, this is glossing over the fact that the INCUMBENT MAYOR received the same # of votes as a 19 year old child [15:53]
mircea_popescu http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/10463333675_d64bfcc75c_c.jpg [15:53]
nubbins` which itself speaks volumes [15:53]
nubbins` oh my [15:54]
mircea_popescu nubbins` was the hat provably fair ? [15:54]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: it was a large blue recycling bin. no word on the fairness thereof [15:54]
nubbins` here's the 19 year old almost-mayor with his family: [15:54]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/shrieking-patient-shuts-down-n-l-legislature-1.1078785 [15:54]
ozbot Shrieking patient shuts down N.L. legislature - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News [15:54]
mircea_popescu Chelsie Coombs, 18 [15:55]
mircea_popescu wife ? [15:55]
nubbins` sister [15:55]
firedrops lol @ title [15:55]
nubbins` pics of both if you scroll down [15:56]
mircea_popescu The family also wants Eastern Health CEO Vickie Kaminski to resign for having made public comments to an open-line radio show about Coombs's case, particularly a suggestion that the woman's size is a reason why hydrotherapy is not available to her. [15:56]
mircea_popescu wait. [15:56]
mircea_popescu so this is a whale that considers it's the pm's problem whether she gets the sort of enema she likes ? [15:57]
mircea_popescu dude buy some pillories. [15:57]
nubbins` see, it's indefensible. they can wheel a stretcher into the house of assembly and scream and shout and call for resignations [15:57]
nubbins` but the government can't just go to the media and speak about the specifics of the case, because health care info [15:57]
nubbins` so their options are pay up or ignore [15:58]
nubbins` they chose 'ignore' :) [15:58]
mircea_popescu how about the Coombs Law [15:58]
mircea_popescu making it so that there's five 4 person pillories installed in front of the house [15:58]
firedrops this is too much. whale hydrotherapy [15:58]
mircea_popescu and all annoying poor people are whipped there naked regularly ? [15:58]
nubbins` this is all driven by the mother [15:58]
nubbins` http://www.ngnews.ca/Business/2009-07-11/article-332512/Newfoundland-couple-takes-summer-vacation-to-hold-a-protest-at-Sobeys-head-office/1 [15:58]
ozbot Newfoundland couple takes summer vacation to hold a protest at Sobeys head office - Business - The N [15:58]
nubbins` ^ same family [15:58]
nubbins` http://www.saveland.ca/forum/topic/21/index/96623/1 [15:59]
ozbot - family sues companys (General Discussions - The Coffee Corner) [15:59]
* [\] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [15:59]
nubbins` ^ same family [15:59]
mircea_popescu this is about as bad as the us, really. [15:59]
nubbins` it's a spectacle, for sure [16:00]
nubbins` luckily this type of behavior isn't too common here yet [16:00]
mircea_popescu but there's no disincentive [16:00]
mircea_popescu so it will become the norm. [16:01]
nubbins` oh, this reminds me, there was one of those "freemen on the land" cases here [16:01]
mircea_popescu basically the irresponsible government of canada is offloading its burden to beat these people into submission upon me. [16:01]
nubbins` in recent weeks [16:01]
mircea_popescu what the fuck is this. disaster of commons. [16:01]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/amy-collins-sentenced-to-house-arrest-probation-1.2325800 [16:03]
ozbot Amy Collins sentenced to house arrest, probation - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News [16:03]
nubbins` a 7-day psych evaluation led her to recant her claims of being not under the authority of the courts [16:03]
nubbins` the terror of which i can't imagine [16:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.14845 = 0.2969 BTC [+] {2} [16:05]
nubbins` the "guru" from which she took advice, coincidentally, grew up about 4 houses down the road from me [16:05]
nubbins` said guru was arrested for impersonating a doctor about 15 years ago [16:05]
mircea_popescu i wonder when the first arrest for impersonating a mp will happen. [16:05]
nubbins` so, y'know, the sort of person you'd take legal advice from [16:05]
nubbins` that'd be like impersonating a child killer, there's nothing to gain [16:06]
mircea_popescu lmao! [16:06]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [16:08]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 341.99501, Best ask: 344.00001, Bid-ask spread: 2.00500, Last trade: 344.00001, 24 hour volume: 51857.58906994, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 346.9, 24 hour vwap: 316.54302 [16:08]
firedrops "yes, i'm mircea_popescu, interlocutor".............. "GTFO" [16:08]
firedrops you ruin everyone's party with reality MP, nobody wants you around. [16:09]
firedrops :P [16:09]
mircea_popescu you have all hurt my feelings. [16:09]
nubbins` don't drag me into thi [16:09]
nubbins` s [16:09]
ThickAsThieves stop being mean to mp [16:09]
mircea_popescu i now need hydrotherapy in the shape of being tongue massaged by nubile young women [16:09]
mircea_popescu brb. [16:09]
ThickAsThieves heathens [16:09]
firedrops dems just jokes, MP. i gots love for ya. [16:11]
* jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.045 = 0.225 BTC [-] [16:13]
nubbins` YES [16:14]
nubbins` courier just dropped off a ton of inks [16:15]
nubbins` and two pantone color guides!! [16:15]
nubbins` ...and, inexplicably, there's a dozen cookies packed in with the inks [16:16]
ThickAsThieves hehe [16:16]
ThickAsThieves gotta love vendor treats [16:17]
* jborkl has quit () [16:17]
nubbins` nod [16:17]
nubbins` i've always wanted a set of pantone guides [16:17]
nubbins` excited to finally get em [16:17]
ThickAsThieves I have one of those full sets in the suitcase things [16:18]
ThickAsThieves somewhere... [16:18]
* virtuals has quit (Quit: sam is a comedian and labcoin is a joke) [16:18]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/cnz8sjR [16:20]
ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer [16:20]
nubbins` this is awesome [16:20]
ThickAsThieves the plus series, oo la la [16:22]
firedrops ;;ticker [16:22]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 343.00001, Best ask: 344.995, Bid-ask spread: 1.99499, Last trade: 343.00001, 24 hour volume: 50386.12703390, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 346.9, 24 hour vwap: 316.94563 [16:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+] [16:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 948 @ 0.001086 = 1.0295 BTC [-] [16:24]
ThickAsThieves what if history shows that right now is what decided the world power for the next 200 years, with whichever country buys more bitcoins, China vs US [16:24]
ThickAsThieves just a mass redistribution of wealth [16:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00759899 = 0.5319 BTC [-] [16:25]
nubbins` i was musing on bitcoin's nouveau riche last night [16:26]
nubbins` who would have thought that hedge fund managers and investment bankers would be falling over themselves trying to buy blow stamps from computer nerds? [16:27]
mircea_popescu ahh that's better [16:27]
nubbins` nice bath? [16:28]
mircea_popescu there's worse fates. [16:28]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well... it's kinda what it is. [16:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8309 @ 0.00083721 = 6.9564 BTC [+] {2} [16:28]
ThickAsThieves indeed, i just meant specifically how China is going rabid [16:28]
ThickAsThieves if some propagandist were to make this a competition... [16:28]
nubbins` man, these cookies are actually really good. [16:28]
dexX7 that's one "theory": china's gov started to buy after the sr grap [16:29]
nubbins` i'll be ordering inks from these guys again [16:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.04899999 = 0.98 BTC [+] [16:29]
* jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:29]
* jborkl has quit (Client Quit) [16:30]
mircea_popescu 1. bake pot in cookies 2. take over the world. [16:30]
* CheckDavid (~david@unaffiliated/checkdavid) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:30]
ThickAsThieves charts are starting to look a little silly... [16:30]
kakobrekla they are silly most of the time in btc [16:31]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [16:31]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 347.0001, Best ask: 348.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.99990, Last trade: 347.0001, 24 hour volume: 50547.01910383, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 348.4, 24 hour vwap: 317.21547 [16:31]
kakobrekla http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png [16:31]
ThickAsThieves gox has btc deposit problems right now [16:32]
kakobrekla a [16:32]
mircea_popescu was that the only kind of problem mtgox hadn't had yet ? [16:32]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: i prefer pot muffins [16:32]
kakobrekla no they had deposit problems before [16:32]
nubbins` but that's just because i make really good muffins [16:32]
kakobrekla but anyway thats bad. [16:32]
nubbins` tat, virtex had btc deposits disabled yesterday for a few hours [16:33]
nubbins` something about "oh fuck traffic" [16:33]
mircea_popescu http://f0.bcbits.com/img/a2749539677_10.jpg [16:34]
mircea_popescu "psychedelic muff weed" [16:34]
nubbins` now that's an album cover [16:34]
nubbins` the slightly-peeled "new" sticker in the top left really pulls it together [16:34]
* [\] (~imsaguy@unaffiliated/imsaguy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.31000044 = 3.1 BTC [-] {4} [16:36]
ThickAsThieves 350 [16:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 82 @ 0.31000003 = 25.42 BTC [-] {6} [16:37]
mircea_popescu http://purefilmcreative.com/killough-chronicles/toms-steps-in-shit.html [16:37]
ozbot TOMS Steps in Shit | Pure Film Creative [16:37]
mircea_popescu i like this guy's venom [16:37]
* benkay (~user@200.125.83.3) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:37]
* RW0 (~RW@109.224.128.243) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:38]
nubbins` i bought a pair of toms [16:40]
* RW0 (~RW@109.224.128.243) has left #bitcoin-assets [16:40]
nubbins` they look nice, but they have zero arch support [16:40]
mircea_popescu why ? [16:40]
thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [16:40]
nubbins` and i destroyed them after 3 months of indoor-only use [16:40]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 20 hours, 30 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: $avg [16:40]
thestringpuller really [16:40]
thestringpuller REALLY [16:40]
mircea_popescu i think if i went on an inspection right now i couldn't find anyone that side of the atlantic in good shoes. [16:41]
nubbins` seriously, holes worn right through the sides [16:41]
thestringpuller guy vanishes with everyone's money during bubbles [16:41]
nubbins` well, depends on what you mean by "good shoes" [16:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.05199999 = 0.104 BTC [+] [16:41]
nubbins` i generally wear low-cut hikers [16:41]
ThickAsThieves do skeletoes count? [16:41]
nubbins` heh [16:41]
mircea_popescu nubbins` no sports plastic things qualify. [16:42]
* Anduck (~Anduck@85-76-115-131-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:42]
* Anduck has quit (Changing host) [16:42]
* Anduck (~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:42]
mircea_popescu good shoes are made of leather. [16:42]
nubbins` then i guess i'm ok! [16:42]
nubbins` at my old job, we had a "wellness subsidy" [16:42]
nubbins` $500 per year to spend on health-related things, like a gym membership or a bicycle [16:43]
nubbins` or a high-end pair of hiking shoes :D [16:43]
benkay ;;ticker --currency xau [16:43]
gribble MtGox BTCXAU ticker | Best bid: 0.2816, Best ask: 0.282312, Bid-ask spread: 0.00071, Last trade: 0.282312, 24 hour volume: 51403.27642857, 24 hour low: 0.2248, 24 hour high: 0.28303732, 24 hour vwap: 0.254507624 [16:43]
mircea_popescu strange thing is that they're not even expensive. in ppp terms people spent about 10x on shoes 100 years ago as what it'd cost to get a decent pair today [16:43]
nubbins` needless to say, after working there for 3 years, i've got three REALLY good pairs of hikers [16:43]
mircea_popescu yet people buy the chinese crap, nike/adidas/whagever [16:43]
nubbins` well, it's not just shoes. people will buy ten $2 hammers rather than splurge on a $25 one that'll last a lifetime [16:44]
nubbins` the cost of good quality hasn't changed [16:44]
nubbins` there's just way more shit quality for cheap [16:44]
kakobrekla you can break a hammer?! [16:44]
nubbins` you can break a $2 hammer [16:44]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla i have seen this. thing split right though the middle. [16:44]
kakobrekla dafuq. [16:45]
mircea_popescu i have no idea what it was made out of, it seemed sheeny on the outside, but looked more like porous ceramic inside. [16:45]
kakobrekla well dunno i used hammers more than an average guy on this chan and never seen it [16:46]
kakobrekla lucky i guess. [16:46]
benkay but have you used *more* hammers? [16:46]
nubbins` haha [16:46]
benkay ;) [16:46]
mircea_popescu ^ [16:46]
nubbins` have you used *cheap* hammers? [16:46]
benkay ^ [16:46]
mircea_popescu "my hammers, let me show you them" [16:46]
nubbins` i had a plumber in a couple of weeks ago, and he lelled heavily at my shitty $5 pipe cutter [16:47]
ThickAsThieves kako would never use a hammer that was sub-kako [16:47]
nubbins` "that's not a pipe cutter, THIS is a pipe cutter" [16:47]
bgupta I'm sure folks have seen this, but US Fed Reserve Economist publishes generally positive note about bitcoin: http://www.chicagofed.org/digital_assets/publications/chicago_fed_letter/2013/cfldecember2013_317.pdf [16:47]
mircea_popescu bgupta yeah good link [16:47]
nubbins` bgupta: that's what caused the run-up to 350 [16:47]
nubbins` ;D [16:47]
* fanquake has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:48]
* naemsi has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:49]
benkay no wait max keizer caused the runup to 350 [16:49]
nubbins` "Some child in a hovel in Bolivia is throwing a pair of TOMS shoes at her mother right now, screaming, “What does this shithole look like to you, the Hamptons? I don’t want another pair of fucking beach shoes. I want to eat meat!”" [16:49]
nubbins` aaah, my sides [16:49]
benkay no wait the new sr honeypot caused the runup to 350 [16:49]
nubbins` it's so true [16:49]
nubbins` know what'd be a nice gift? a job in a shoe factory [16:49]
nubbins` know what's a lousy gift? a pair of shoes that falls apart after 3 months of indoor use [16:50]
nubbins` now imagine those same shoes on a CHILD who spends their day OUTSIDE [16:50]
benkay but you know what makes american women tingle? [16:50]
benkay doing good in the world. [16:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.731 BTC [+] [16:50]
mircea_popescu nubbins` yeah, that's where i was when i linked it. [16:50]
nubbins` oh my god this article goes straight from TOMS to Dov Charney [16:50]
nubbins` what is this, my birthday? [16:50]
ThickAsThieves BTCT closing caused the runup [16:51]
benkay glbse closing caused the runup [16:51]
* jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:51]
* firedrops is now known as sinovate [16:51]
kakobrekla bitcoininca shutdown is not stabilizing prices anymore [16:51]
mircea_popescu the apostolic bitcoin jesus gets no mention ? [16:51]
benkay apoplectic bitcoin jesus caused the runup [16:51]
ThickAsThieves new word for me [16:52]
ThickAsThieves thx [16:52]
kakobrekla satoshi initial code release causing the runup [16:52]
mircea_popescu it just means karpeles [16:52]
nubbins` http://jameskillough.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/dov-charney.jpg [16:52]
benkay vehaha caused the runup [16:52]
ThickAsThieves these dudes and their handlebars [16:52]
ThickAsThieves you need to actually be eccentric to be eccentric [16:53]
benkay dov charney. now there's a man who can slay gash. [16:53]
nubbins` sleazeball [16:53]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves has it. that fag just looks like an unkempt gypsy [16:53]
nubbins` it's funny how many people trip about american apparel tees [16:53]
nubbins` "they're made in downtown LA" [16:53]
nubbins` yeah, by illegal immigrants [16:53]
nubbins` in a factory run by a molester [16:53]
mircea_popescu at least they're getting free abortions, apostate. [16:54]
nubbins` http://i.americanapparel.net/presscenter/adarchive/popups/american-apparel-ad-amsterdam-nowopen-06.jpg [16:54]
nubbins` "omg AA shirts are so stylish" [16:54]
thestringpuller kiiiids suck [16:54]
mircea_popescu so crude this shit. [16:54]
benkay what's the point of having a secretary who won't blow you during meetings, eh? [16:54]
nubbins` "i love their ad where the woman is on the verge of tears, with her legs spread open" [16:54]
mircea_popescu seriouisly, "now open" ? that's what they got ? [16:54]
ThickAsThieves lol [16:54]
mircea_popescu benkay but she has to want to. [16:54]
ThickAsThieves send photo to apply for job, nice [16:55]
nubbins` http://i.americanapparel.net/presscenter/adarchive/popups/american-apparel-ad-Japan-nowopen-041005.JPG [16:55]
nubbins` http://www.sevenstreets.com/image-uploads/2010/10/E24qqC.jpeg [16:55]
jborkl Why do they only use ugly girls [16:55]
nubbins` im just gonna send these to the next person who says they want AA tees [16:55]
nubbins` http://smileinyourface.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/foto_11817_dit-weekend-grote-warehouse-sale-american-apparel-in-amsterdam.jpeg [16:55]
* daybyter (~andreas@88-134-47-40-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:55]
nubbins` http://www.theenglishgroup.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/american-apparel3-460x331.jpg [16:56]
mircea_popescu why did they put an eskimo on the japan ad ? [16:56]
mircea_popescu and for that matter, a bolivian on the dutch ad ? [16:56]
nubbins` http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18k3bpw3n35kcjpg/ku-medium.jpg [16:56]
ThickAsThieves its the modern UCB [16:56]
thestringpuller stop being racist mircea_popescu [16:56]
ThickAsThieves united colors of benetton [16:56]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i was thinking that! [16:57]
mircea_popescu sounds like this shitty european brand that's been a laughingstock for two decades by now [16:57]
ThickAsThieves see, same shit http://www.clutchmagonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/UndercolorsOfBenetton_SS10_07.jpg [16:57]
nubbins` i'll leave a google image search of "dov charney", owner of AA, as an exercise to the reader [16:58]
nubbins` puts the ads in context [16:58]
mircea_popescu nubbins` so do you hate him because he's rich and dorky or because he has no appreciation of torturing women and does it by what appears to be sheer accident ? [16:59]
benkay i was going to ask what the diff you see between mircea_popescu and d.c. is, nubs, but mp beat me to it [16:59]
nubbins` both those reasons, as well as the fact that his products are shit with huge price tags [16:59]
nubbins` as well as the fact that he's a sleazeball [16:59]
mircea_popescu benkay im working for the loaded questions championship [16:59]
nubbins` as well as the fact that he's tricked the t-shirt buying public into thinking that a sweatshop in LA is the ethical way to make tees [17:00]
nubbins` i could go on [17:00]
benkay it's a bad thing to trick the public now? [17:00]
* af33 (~Ahab@c-98-242-90-82.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:00]
nubbins` it's a bad thing when it makes my job harder [17:00]
benkay you're the one in a commodity biz [17:00]
mircea_popescu benkay yeah. the good thing is to ruin everyone's party with physics, then they can all hate you [17:00]
nubbins` well, that's why i get to complain. [17:00]
mircea_popescu so you can go get glossal applied hydrotherapy [17:00]
ThickAsThieves at some point marketing turns into a "trick" over time, without trying [17:00]
nubbins` haha, glossotherapy [17:01]
mircea_popescu totally. [17:01]
nubbins` much better than glossolalia [17:01]
mircea_popescu someone should ask people if they believe glossotherapy should be covered under obamacare. [17:01]
asciilifeform peanut gallery hates physics. you walk in, their /perpetuum mobile/ stops. who likes that. [17:01]
nubbins` is it the pentecostals that are known for that? [17:01]
benkay it's all religious morons. [17:01]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah, reddit didn't even like my colors of gray! [17:01]
nubbins` http://media.onsugar.com/files/ons/228/2283287/41_2008/image_1.png [17:02]
nubbins` hahaha [17:02]
ThickAsThieves rallying again, heh [17:02]
mircea_popescu in fairness, the guy does look like he did a fair chunk of meth in his day [17:02]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [17:02]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 349.74052, Best ask: 356.989, Bid-ask spread: 7.24848, Last trade: 356.989, 24 hour volume: 52024.01339181, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 357.41017, 24 hour vwap: 319.5092 [17:02]
benkay i'm confused is dc a fake ass or a real ass in your opinion, nubbins`? [17:02]
thestringpuller lol there is an AA in echo park? [17:02]
nubbins` in this context, the implication is that he's both fake and an ass [17:03]
mircea_popescu benkay he's a literal ass that's also a fake. [17:03]
benkay >.< [17:03]
mircea_popescu i for one welcome our new postmodern overwords. [17:03]
nubbins` http://www.newser.com/story/113677/american-apparel-ceo-dov-charney-hit-with-250m-sexual-harassment-suit.html [17:03]
ozbot American Apparel CEO Hit With $250M Teen Sex Suit - Dov Charney accused of forcing sex on young e [17:03]
nubbins` "their shirts are so stylish" [17:03]
* zoinky (~Adium@unaffiliated/zoinky) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:03]
nubbins` "do you guys carry american apparel tees" [17:03]
dexX7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM526U_7Ngg [17:03]
ozbot Bitcoin's Market Value Is About To Go Astronomical - YouTube [17:03]
mircea_popescu o god. the idiot parade is already revving up huh. [17:04]
ThickAsThieves we have to know when to sell somehow [17:04]
mircea_popescu someone tell each and every fuckwith that no, bitcoin's market value is not about to go astronomical. [17:04]
benkay guess that option bet isn't going to pay off this month [17:04]
mircea_popescu and also that nobody asked them what they think. [17:04]
mircea_popescu benkay it's ridiculous how it works, price moves as soon as there's a large option play [17:04]
nubbins` http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/23/magazine/23apparel.html?pagewanted=6&_r=0 [17:04]
nubbins` "But during the reporting for Ko's piece, Charney did something he now regrets. Within the context of a flirtatious conversation about sexuality and the pleasure Charney derives from masturbation with a willing partner, he decided to demonstrate for Ko, and it became a repeated motif in their later encounters." [17:05]
dexX7 haha no, watch it, it's worth imho [17:05]
mircea_popescu wait... he jacked off ?! [17:05]
nubbins` man started masturbating during a media interview [17:05]
mircea_popescu dude these people ;/ [17:05]
nubbins` you can't make this shit up!!! [17:05]
* topace (~topace@unaffiliated/topace) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:05]
mircea_popescu but... but why! [17:05]
nubbins` "yeah i really like AA tees because they're, like, fairly made" [17:05]
nubbins` i should do up handbills that i can just give to people when they request AA shirts [17:06]
benkay i really like aa tees because i admire don's power plays [17:06]
benkay plus bitches cream for a man what looks good in a v [17:06]
mircea_popescu "ene Morales, now 20, alleges that Dov Charney began sexually harassing her when she was 17 and ordered her to come to his apartment when she turned 18. The suit alleges Charney kept her prisoner for hours and forced her to perform numerous sexual acts," [17:06]
benkay i thought he was in the habit of making them sign waivers? [17:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.31000001 = 1.24 BTC [-] [17:07]
benkay hey mircea_popescu are you implying the option play drives prices or that the option player sees the moves coming? [17:07]
mircea_popescu girl is forced to perform numerous sexual acts and held prisoner 3 years ago [17:07]
benkay or that the fiat exchange market is batshit insane? [17:07]
mircea_popescu remembers all this casually while riding the bus 3 years later [17:07]
mircea_popescu vibration jogged her memory. [17:07]
* jborkl has quit () [17:08]
mircea_popescu benkay in this case it actually made the 2nd guy money, but it most often goes the other way [17:08]
benkay that's why those after-incident texts are so important [17:08]
nubbins` shrug. he's been in trouble plenty of times for hiring illegal immigrants. he prolly threatened to have her deported [17:08]
* skinnkavaj (~skinnkava@unaffiliated/skinnkavaj) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:08]
mircea_popescu nubbins` so ? [17:08]
nubbins` or, yknow, maybe he's a misunderstood gentleman :0 [17:08]
nubbins` so, you'd be surprised what people will do in order to not get kicked out of a country [17:08]
mircea_popescu the girl liked being raped so much she feared being returned to her country above all things ? [17:08]
benkay in this case the second guy means the options bot? [17:08]
mircea_popescu benkay was a batch of options traded yest, and a batch today. [17:09]
mircea_popescu anyway, let's get back to our geek roots : [17:09]
mircea_popescu http://ca.news.yahoo.com/bizarre-asteroid-six-tails-spotted-hubble-telescope-photos-214743038.html [17:09]
mircea_popescu someone in the kuipier belt broke out the asteroid o nine tails. [17:09]
nubbins` huh [17:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.31000001 = 1.24 BTC [-] [17:10]
nubbins` cool [17:10]
ThickAsThieves aliens [17:10]
nubbins` i missed the solar eclipse the other day :( [17:10]
mircea_popescu person over my shouylder [17:10]
ThickAsThieves what better way to travel than as a rock [17:10]
mircea_popescu "oh, that's just somebody mining" [17:10]
nubbins` heh [17:11]
nubbins` spacecoins [17:11]
mircea_popescu as in https://www.google.com/search?q=eve+mining&complete=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch [17:11]
* mjr_ (~Thunderbi@190.219.168.162) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:11]
nubbins` http://evepics.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/epminingdrones2.png [17:11]
ThickAsThieves it's probly Google [17:12]
benkay "In astronomy, where you find one, you eventually find a whole bunch more," [17:12]
benkay true of the world in general. thank you, american science. [17:12]
nubbins` fuck. this. i'm having another one of these cookies [17:12]
nubbins` with a tip o' the hat to stanley's sign and screen supplies [17:13]
nubbins` oatmeal [17:13]
nubbins` and i generally don't like oatmeal [17:13]
ThickAsThieves Wired wisdom: "This $1.2M hack shows you why you should never store your bitcoins on the internet." [17:13]
nubbins` no raisins [17:14]
mircea_popescu buttcoins go in butts for storage [17:14]
nubbins` "This Wired headline uses euphemisms that will escape many" [17:14]
mircea_popescu the wired is very sensible. i hope it tells us more about chatting for bitcoin (offline) [17:14]
kakobrekla random ltc fanboi comments: "Yeah, thats why i use litecoin instead" [17:15]
nubbins` "7 insane reasons not to store your blowstamps on the intertubes!" [17:15]
ThickAsThieves http://www.wired.com/design/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/titan6.jpg [17:15]
nubbins` haha [17:15]
ThickAsThieves http://www.wired.com/design/2013/11/a-breakthrough-exoskeleton-wins-james-dysons-45000-student-prize/#slideid-314611 [17:15]
ozbot An Exoskeleton That Boosts Biceps Wins James Dyson's $45,000 Prize | Wired Design | Wired.com [17:15]
nubbins` i was expecting a photo of those titan coins [17:15]
nubbins` tat, do you suppose the pillows stuffed in his suit are functional or just there for aesthetics? [17:16]
nubbins` "i have real muscles too, see" [17:16]
ThickAsThieves not pillows, optical illusion [17:16]
ThickAsThieves the armor floats past his arm [17:16]
ThickAsThieves making it look fatter than is [17:16]
nubbins` http://www.wired.com/design/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/titan5.jpg [17:17]
nubbins` "to... the... *grunt* mooooooon!" [17:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00680038 = 0.1428 BTC [-] {2} [17:18]
* mjr_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:20]
nubbins` okay, gotta get to work. busy month [17:23]
nubbins` peace [17:23]
asciilifeform whenever i see 'exoskeletons,' i think back to the soviet gasoline-powered '7-league boots'. [17:23]
asciilifeform the ones that would bust your knees after a little run. [17:23]
kakobrekla url to that? [17:24]
asciilifeform http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/17/business/worldbusiness/17gazshoes.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 [17:24]
kakobrekla hehe [17:25]
mircea_popescu idiot bureaucrats trying to make science parks with tax breaks. [17:26]
asciilifeform this is actually a fundamental problem in 'virtual reality' machines. including a servo powerful enough to make a fist hitting a simulated 'desk' feel like table and not goo, will break your arm if the timing is a few Ms off. [17:26]
mircea_popescu graham wrote the blueprint for that, it's correct : [17:26]
mircea_popescu round up 100 uni professors, give them unlimited funds and legal immunity if they move to your park. the rest follows naturally. [17:26]
* mjr_ (~Thunderbi@190.219.168.162) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:30]
thestringpuller dr. moreau's island huh? [17:33]
asciilifeform bell labs / xerox parc. [17:33]
asciilifeform the reason why modern attempts at this are laughable is the state of the credentialling system. [17:34]
kleeck Interesting: http://cointerra.com/cointerra-open-silicon-announce-tape-goldstrike1-asic/ [17:34]
* sinovate has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah, you'd need someone to do the picking of them professors [17:36]
mircea_popescu and there's nobody really. [17:36]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you also need the human material to be actually available. [17:36]
* Luke-Jr has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:37]
mircea_popescu if you make Novi Sciencegrad much in the way of cheliabinsk except run by the scientists rather than the services, [17:37]
mircea_popescu you'll have teh human material breaking down your doors [17:37]
* Luke-Jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:38]
asciilifeform problem, as always, is with quality, not quantity. [17:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.74498 BTC [+] [17:38]
mircea_popescu but the material'd be there, "you'd need someone to do the picking" [17:38]
asciilifeform only so many ex-soviet wizards left. [17:38]
mircea_popescu these'd be mostly western guys who had it up to here with the young bitches that don't belong in the class in the first place bothering them with "sexual harassment" concerns [17:39]
asciilifeform those are a dime a dozen in paul graham's zoo. how many have so much as heard of landau & lifschitz. [17:40]
mircea_popescu there's gotta be some good stuff among them. [17:40]
asciilifeform how many have touched so much as algebra. [17:40]
mircea_popescu im firmly persuaded we just can't tell it apart because of all the nonsense. [17:41]
asciilifeform anyone who thinks that american academia is alive should look at the products of 'mit press' for the past 20 yrs. [17:44]
asciilifeform 'climate change consequences of transsexual discrimination' all the way through. [17:44]
* turbo_ac100 (~turbo@g229127039.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:44]
asciilifeform the 'new books' shelf at my uni library is full of this. [17:44]
* digibetacam has quit (Quit: digibetacam) [17:44]
asciilifeform truffles: typical american 'public-private partnership.' (would close down overnight if not for payola.) [17:46]
asciilifeform was. [17:46]
asciilifeform 30 yrs. ago. [17:46]
asciilifeform got lysenkoized along with the others. [17:47]
* truffles has quit () [17:48]
asciilifeform problem, as often is, sinecures attract time-servers. [17:51]
asciilifeform neal stephenson had the right idea with his 'math monasteries' [17:51]
asciilifeform want to diddle maths? wear a cloak, eat rice, visit the outside every decade. [17:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.71 = 2.13 BTC [-] [17:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-] [17:54]
* Andiz (~Andiz@69-165-148-25.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:55]
jcpham so this tradefortress guy pulled the 'ol forum web wallet scam [17:55]
nubbins` math monasteries [17:55]
jcpham that's what I'm reading on the interwebs recently [17:55]
nubbins` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God [17:56]
nubbins` try to find the actual story before ruining the ending for yourself [17:56]
nubbins` it's a good read [17:56]
asciilifeform nah, this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathem [17:56]
nubbins` neal stephenson [17:57]
nubbins` only ever read snow crash [17:57]
nubbins` not sure why he wrote an adult having sex with a 15yo girl into the plot [17:57]
benkay WHAT AMS ART LOL [17:58]
asciilifeform s is an actual original mind. each of his pieces is entirely different, like mozart's. [17:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah, i tell you, it has to be the samurai way. [17:58]
mircea_popescu you're not good enough to be amather ? this means they can come fuck your wife any time they want and you'll serve them sake,. [17:58]
mircea_popescu and get out of their way and avert your fucking eyes. [17:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: right. and don't forget to include seppuku. [17:58]
mircea_popescu yeah. if you fail at maths you gotta give it all up and move on to reality tv [17:59]
asciilifeform 'triple integral too heavy? here's a wakizashi. see you at noontime, bring the white sheets.' [17:59]
mircea_popescu jcpham i think he actually got raped tbh. [18:00]
jcpham oh really [18:00]
jcpham so he _may not_ have scammed [18:00]
mircea_popescu right. [18:00]
kakobrekla why do you think that [18:00]
mircea_popescu just a hunch [18:00]
jcpham a web based wallet service is always gonna be a high value target [18:00]
mircea_popescu i don't actually have anything i can point to. [18:00]
mircea_popescu jcpham well... linode. [18:01]
jcpham losing your coin to web wallet is like the oldest trick in the book [18:01]
asciilifeform i'm still perplexed by the popularity of 'web wallets.' what do 20GB cost now? $0.20? [18:01]
jcpham it's pretty cheap [18:01]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "peace of mind" [18:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.00687267 = 2.7491 BTC [-] {6} [18:01]
asciilifeform not like you need a brain to run the blockchain [18:02]
jcpham securing and operating your own system is cheaper [18:02]
asciilifeform fiddybucks buys you a 'raspberry' or whatever the pocket computer of the day [18:02]
mircea_popescu i don;t think you two understand how "peace of mind" works. [18:02]
* TAT_Investments (~tati@c-98-231-58-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:03]
asciilifeform like the sea cucumber that eats its brain when it finds a place to plant? [18:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.0069001 = 0.3312 BTC [+] [18:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-] [18:04]
mircea_popescu hah i guess so. [18:04]
asciilifeform "The juvenile sea squirt wanders through the sea searching for a suitable rock or hunk of coral to cling to and make its home for life. For this task, it has a rudimentary nervous system. When it finds its spot and takes root, it doesn’t need its brain anymore, so it eats it!" [18:04]
mircea_popescu basically, heroin is the end all be all peace of mind maker. [18:04]
* daszorz (~daszorz@cpc3-live22-2-0-cust22.know.cable.virginm.net) has left #bitcoin-assets [18:05]
kakobrekla peace of mind dissolves exponentially with the rise of stakes [18:05]
* ll_ is now known as ll [18:05]
mircea_popescu nonono. that's the wrong one. [18:05]
pankkake asciilifeform: the blockchain isn't the issue anyway, you can use light clients like Electrum [18:06]
mircea_popescu peace of mind is this atonal forgetfulness thing [18:06]
asciilifeform i just don't get the 'here's my private key. please don't run off with everything' way of thinking. [18:07]
mircea_popescu because you're a mental fidgeter. [18:07]
mircea_popescu this is peace of mind. [18:07]
asciilifeform by that argument, the 'colt .45 retirement plan' would be the ultimate peace of mind... [18:08]
asciilifeform ('available from the Colt Health-Life Insurance and Retirement Savings Company!') [18:09]
mircea_popescu not really. [18:09]
mircea_popescu it's not a corpse, that's the thing. a living brain that does nothing, that's nirvana. [18:09]
mircea_popescu a dead brain that does nothing is simply banal. [18:09]
asciilifeform time to roll out 'wireheading', perhaps. [18:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.007 = 0.147 BTC [+] [18:10]
asciilifeform if anyone had the least bit of a clue re: how to make it happen, betcha it would. [18:10]
mircea_popescu what else is civilisation as misunderstood in the us all about ? [18:10]
mircea_popescu counterfeit utility all the way. [18:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31000001 = 0.62 BTC [-] [18:11]
asciilifeform sorta like the ant traps. [18:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.31 = 0.93 BTC [-] {3} [18:13]
nubbins` ;;ticker [18:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.29925 = 1.197 BTC [-] {2} [18:14]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 355.0, Best ask: 356.195, Bid-ask spread: 1.19500, Last trade: 355.0, 24 hour volume: 48585.39568320, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 358.0, 24 hour vwap: 321.0482 [18:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.0069014 = 0.5314 BTC [-] [18:14]
* nubbins` cackles [18:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.0069002 = 0.5313 BTC [-] [18:15]
* benkay has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [18:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.74499999 = 1.49 BTC [+] {2} [18:16]
nubbins` remember a while ago when i was faced with the dilemma of how greedy to be? [18:17]
AndrewJackson and how did it pan out? [18:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.748 BTC [+] [18:22]
nubbins` i wasn't quite greedy enough at the time, as it turns out [18:27]
nubbins` but, y'know. [18:27]
nubbins` eggs in many baskets, etc [18:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.0069001 = 0.3105 BTC [-] [18:30]
* ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@173.180.1.169) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:31]
pankkake http://cointerra.com/cointerra-open-silicon-announce-tape-goldstrike1-asic/ [18:33]
* samson_ (~ukru@115.67.102.52) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:35]
* samson_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:38]
* samson_ (~ukru@115.67.102.52) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:38]
TAT_Investments when is CT's first scheduled delivery? [18:39]
pankkake December, don't know when [18:40]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/550/cointerra-will-deliver-in-2013/ [18:40]
ozbot BitBet - Cointerra will deliver in 2013 [18:40]
mircea_popescu some sort of never [18:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.749 BTC [+] [18:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00182 = 0.728 BTC [-] [18:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [+] [18:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1340 @ 0.00182 = 2.4388 BTC [-] [18:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.007 = 0.364 BTC [+] [18:49]
* ubuntu__ (~ubuntu@gateway/tor-sasl/firedrops) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:51]
* ubuntu__1 (~ubuntu@gateway/tor-sasl/firedrops) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.007 = 0.161 BTC [+] [18:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0069001 = 0.69 BTC [-] {2} [18:55]
* clamcat (d5dba07a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.219.160.122) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 345 @ 0.00688895 = 2.3767 BTC [-] {5} [18:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00660739 = 0.2841 BTC [-] {3} [18:57]
ubuntu__ http://www.spritelamp.com/ <--- Useful for S.MG ? :) [19:00]
ozbot Sprite Lamp [19:00]
* ubuntu__ is now known as firedrops [19:00]
* BlueHelix (~cmp@unaffiliated/bluehelix) has left #bitcoin-assets ("bye") [19:01]
mircea_popescu notrly, in that eulora is 3d [19:03]
pankkake the demos are pretty cool [19:05]
firedrops ah, nice to know. I haven't kept up on the S.MG goings on. [19:05]
firedrops it's movign along well? [19:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31000001 BTC [+] [19:07]
* tyrion70 (~Adium@unaffiliated/tyrion70) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.75 = 2.25 BTC [+] [19:12]
firedrops http://www.finextra.com/Community/FullBlog.aspx?blogid=8475 [19:12]
ozbot Chinese can now buy real estate with Bitcoin [19:12]
firedrops they should start buying US debt in bitcoin. [19:12]
* firedrops realizes that is stupid. [19:13]
* LorenzoMoney (~LorenzoMo@unaffiliated/lorenzomoney) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:13]
the20year1 We'll rent/sell real estate with BTC [19:18]
* smidge (smidge@p4FDCDC66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 443 @ 0.00182 = 0.8063 BTC [-] [19:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.75 = 2.25 BTC [+] [19:23]
* Anduck has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [19:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 12361 @ 0.00174964 = 21.6273 BTC [-] {17} [19:26]
* danpc_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:28]
* danpc_ (~Ogedei@unaffiliated/ogedei) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.71023333 = 4.2614 BTC [-] {3} [19:29]
firedrops FYI, AMAGI metals seems to be on the top of the gold for btc service pile. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170329.0 [19:29]
* kleinessteak (~kleinesst@dslb-088-068-237-194.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:32]
* Anduck (~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.0451 = 0.3157 BTC [-] [19:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.006999 = 0.126 BTC [+] [19:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1616 @ 0.00182 = 2.9411 BTC [+] [19:41]
kakobrekla ;;ticker --market all [19:42]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 352.445, vol: 49329.52140290 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 328.01, vol: 43353.31800723 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 306.89, vol: 23265.54347 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 300.02, vol: 793.09290584 | Volume-weighted last average: 333.935913668 [19:42]
mircea_popescu firedrops well, slower than some people'd want, faster than i think is reasonable. [19:44]
mircea_popescu also "one krug" ios hardly a basis for anything. [19:44]
firedrops RE? [19:44]
firedrops ah [19:44]
firedrops i see [19:44]
firedrops one krug? still lost. [19:45]
mircea_popescu krugerrand, like the most common bullion coin [19:45]
mircea_popescu of insignificant value. [19:45]
firedrops i'm only picking up a handlful of 1/10s here and there. [19:45]
firedrops significant value is relative, i'm not vetting them for investment purposes, just to increase my gold pile. [19:46]
mircea_popescu but to say x is on top of the gold service pile [19:46]
mircea_popescu this is like saying jc penny is on top of the grocery trade [19:46]
mircea_popescu because someone once bought an apple. [19:46]
firedrops ah, yes, they seems to be the most responsive, fastest turn around. [19:46]
firedrops for btc [19:46]
firedrops i mean, unless you know another? Just because it's a crap pile doesn't mean someone isn't on top.. [19:47]
* ericmuyser has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:47]
* toffoo (~tof@179.218.77.42) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:47]
firedrops one service must be better than another, amagi seems to be it on the service and communication and price fronts.. [19:47]
mircea_popescu gold for btc isn't a crap pile in any sense. [19:47]
* ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@173.180.1.169) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:47]
firedrops so if not amagi, who then? [19:48]
jcpham why have such a hard on for metal? [19:48]
firedrops I'm casting a golden dong for when BTC goes to $10K, so I can *literally* fuck myself. [19:49]
mircea_popescu hahaha [19:49]
mircea_popescu ;;google trilema pula mea [19:49]
gribble Wilcoxon tests for mean difference - Deakin University: ; Bajet 2014: Anak muda jatuh, ditimpa tangga dan terhantuk kepala ...: ; The Fandom - The Fandom - Indonesia Based Music Blog: (1 more message) [19:49]
mircea_popescu bah bs google. [19:49]
jcpham bah google or bah trilema [19:50]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-pula-mea/ tghere firedrops you can use that for your cast. [19:50]
ozbot NSFW - Pula mea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [19:50]
jcpham i would read trilema but i can't afford tokens [19:50]
mircea_popescu jcpham mine moar. [19:50]
jcpham that's funny [19:51]
jcpham mining is profitable [19:51]
jcpham bigtime [19:51]
mircea_popescu shuddup and dig [19:51]
KRS-1 heh [19:52]
* ericmuyser has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:52]
jcpham when is trilema going to start taking litecoins for reading tokens [19:53]
mircea_popescu once bitcoin's dead and i move mpex over. [19:53]
kleeck jcpham, didn't you get the memo? "minin iz ded brah" [19:53]
mircea_popescu kleeck he wasn't around at that time yet. [19:53]
kleeck Whoa. [19:54]
* Kushed has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:58]
* Kushed (~Kushedout@adsl-69-231-126-100.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.0069 = 0.3588 BTC [+] {2} [20:03]
* CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:04]
* [\] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:06]
* kleeck has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:09]
* Kushedout (~Kushedout@adsl-69-231-125-201.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:13]
* Kushed has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:16]
* Anduck has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:18]
* mjr_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:18]
* Anduck (~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:19]
* Andiz has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [20:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.0451 = 0.1353 BTC [-] [20:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00085462 = 6.2815 BTC [+] [20:28]
* mjr_ (~Thunderbi@cpe-08863bb2d879.cpe.cableonda.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:28]
* af33 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [20:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.00680639 = 0.844 BTC [-] {2} [20:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7584 BTC [+] [20:41]
* Andiz (Andiz@W60.N37.queensu.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.7584 = 3.0336 BTC [+] [20:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 145 @ 0.006411 = 0.9296 BTC [-] [20:49]
* b0n1 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [20:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.75838333 = 4.5503 BTC [-] {2} [20:52]
* Namworld (Namworld@modemcable041.115-177-173.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:56]
* b0n1 (~carly@massmann.mhn.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.001999 = 0.1059 BTC [+] [21:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00085443 = 7.3481 BTC [-] [21:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 0.04899999 = 0.686 BTC [+] [21:12]
* toffoo has quit () [21:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8714 @ 0.00085161 = 7.4209 BTC [-] {3} [21:20]
* kleeck (~kleeck@50-77-168-189-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:23]
* tyrion70 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:25]
* tyrion70 (~Adium@unaffiliated/tyrion70) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:25]
* b0n12k (~jimmy2k@massmann.mhn.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:28]
* Anduck has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:28]
mircea_popescu .d [21:29]
ozbot 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 1570 blocks | Estimated Change: 3.8260% in 10d 11h 14m 0s [21:29]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [21:29]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 347.12412, Best ask: 347.12912, Bid-ask spread: 0.00500, Last trade: 347.12912, 24 hour volume: 43695.82926188, 24 hour low: 291.0, 24 hour high: 358.0, 24 hour vwap: 330.91894 [21:29]
* FabianB (~FabianB@unaffiliated/fabianb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:30]
* FabianB_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [21:31]
* bitesak (b2c1c691@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.193.198.145) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 991 @ 0.0001385 = 0.1373 BTC [-] [21:36]
* nubbins` has quit (Quit: nubbins`) [21:36]
* lewicki (~lewicki@50-195-56-22-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:38]
* lewicki has quit (Changing host) [21:38]
* lewicki (~lewicki@unaffiliated/lewicki) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:38]
Category: Logs
Comments feed : RSS 2.0. Leave your own comment below, or send a trackback.
Add your cents! »
    If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed.