Forum logs for 06 Jun 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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cazalla | https://www.coingecko.com/buzz/bitcoin-leaders-speak-up-block-size | [00:13] |
assbot | 7 Bitcoin Leaders Speak Up On Bitcoin Block Size Debate ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqXSd6 ) | [00:13] |
cazalla | who's that at #4 heh | [00:14] |
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punkman | good ol' justus | [00:28] |
punkman | "Justus Ranvier has one of the more interesting opinions on the bitcoin blockchain that doesn’t seem to get much attention. In his view, there is no need for the block size limit to exist at all." | [00:28] |
punkman | http://monetas.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/03.jpg | [00:29] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1MuCEJV ) | [00:29] |
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punkman | !up The20YearIRCloud | [00:40] |
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punkman | !up WolfGoethe | [00:40] |
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The20YearIRCloud | howdy punkman | [00:40] |
WolfGoethe | yo | [00:40] |
The20YearIRCloud | hi | [00:40] |
WolfGoethe | some fool locking up my coins with bogus trades. what fool wants to deposit cash to the bank... at midnight??? | [00:40] |
punkman | lolwut | [00:41] |
The20YearIRCloud | sounds like pure fun | [00:41] |
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The20YearIRCloud | So I miss anything interesting or fun with mpex in the past 2-3 months? | [00:43] |
punkman | account opening fee is now 50btc | [00:43] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.00036169 = 15.1729 BTC [+] | [00:49] |
The20YearIRCloud | Interesting | [00:54] |
The20YearIRCloud | Quite a bit more than the title 4 exchanges I've been talking to in the US | [00:54] |
decimation | title 4 exchanges? | [00:56] |
The20YearIRCloud | Yeah , crowdexchanges here in the US now that the SEC has finally got off their butt and allowed small companies to list on new exchanges. | [01:02] |
The20YearIRCloud | Exchanges with less regulation an requirements (mostly) than even OTC | [01:02] |
The20YearIRCloud | Granted, i guess if you wanted a $10k+ threshhold it'd make sense to up it to 50btc due to all the recent slides | [01:03] |
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* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [03:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49842 @ 0.00036216 = 18.0508 BTC [+] {2} | [03:17] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155700 no dude. | [03:18] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 00:41:17; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^^^^^^ | [03:18] |
mircea_popescu | lol you're in the position of someone who made a moon exploration vessel, discovered life on the moon and is now kicking himself for not having included a condom factory in the ship. | [03:18] |
mircea_popescu | at the time phuctor was designed in 2013, the idea was that no keys could ever be factored. for this purpose, phuctor as designed is exactly adequate. | [03:19] |
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mircea_popescu | yes, moduli that it flags should be put through a proper factorization. this is a task a) separate from what phuctor does and b) to be done indepentently of what phuctor does. | [03:19] |
mircea_popescu | you don't include bakeries into wheat harvesters to be driven across wheat fields, and you don't need phuctor to do everything either. | [03:20] |
mircea_popescu | let anyone with a clue (tm) do it themselves, it doesn't take much more brain than what a chicken has to cluck at the freshly disturbed ground for that's where the worms are. | [03:20] |
mircea_popescu | and if nobody does it, we'll do it, once phuctor's done running. | [03:21] |
mircea_popescu | in unrelated but more interesting news, it's been pointed out to me pluriously by now that http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-may-2015-statement/ fails to include some rather interesting points, chiefly what about the rest of the cardano, other than the rng ? has it been ordered ? is it to be ordered soon ? | [03:23] |
assbot | No Such lAbs (S.NSA), May 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1dkFxkj ) | [03:23] |
mircea_popescu | jurov no problems. | [03:24] |
mircea_popescu | your offering is muchly appreciated. | [03:24] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155715 << http://trilema.com/2014/the-great-post-of-rebuttals/#selection-243.0-243.275 | [03:33] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 01:00:02; trinque: williamdunne: on the one hand there's a superficial "did I make it do something, and did it 'work'" | [03:33] |
scoopbot_revived | Nocturnal revelation http://trilema.com/2015/nocturnal-revelation/ | [03:33] |
assbot | The great post of rebuttals on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1dkFRPT ) | [03:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37540 @ 0.00036219 = 13.5966 BTC [+] | [03:33] |
mircea_popescu | every stupidity's excused by youth, people genuinely think the 80s were cool just because that's the first time they got laid. people actually used to think bellbottoms look hot because they remembered them filled with round butts of the fillies they cared about, back in that age. | [03:34] |
mircea_popescu | let's not confuse the humanity we see reflected in the eyes of the beast with the actual beast. | [03:34] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155723 << this is bad design in principle, merely asking this question. if you visualise the stuff of design as a graph, what this does is introduce a cyclicity in it, which makes the graph no longer computable, or for that matter usable. | [03:50] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 01:04:22; williamdunne: Would there be any particular benefit to that in its intended usage? JSON/MsgPack/whatever all work fine with anything I can imagine being necessary on the web | [03:50] |
mircea_popescu | you may never consider "the benefit" of design when designing, in these terms. | [03:51] |
mircea_popescu | to understand why, think of someone making a map. he doesn't ask "does this rock benefit anyone or may i just omit it from my map ?" because while the thing may not benefit, the omission sinks ships. | [03:51] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155785 << dude check out the "leader" factory. i wish to know, are these leaded leaders or unleaded leaders ? | [03:54] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 03:09:48; assbot: 7 Bitcoin Leaders Speak Up On Bitcoin Block Size Debate ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqXSd6 ) | [03:54] |
* | mircea_popescu remembers a quainter time, back when to be a leader one first had to be followed. a time when "being certified" was another way to say "being insane". stuff like that. | [03:55] |
punkman | they get followed on twitter! | [03:55] |
mircea_popescu | oh nm. my bad. | [03:56] |
mircea_popescu | i don't understand how the world works. | [03:56] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, fresh from the ranch of unmanly grips, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqczh9dc1m1qc6pb2o1_1280.jpg | [03:58] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1KgbzuL ) | [03:58] |
mircea_popescu | "The libertarian Bitcoinists need to get out of their bubble. Yes, they created BItcoin, but it doesn't belong to them, it belongs to anybody and everybody, and it simply can't live on existing as it did in 2013." | [04:01] |
mircea_popescu | herp. | [04:01] |
mircea_popescu | dear world : fuck you. you will adapt to every nook and crany of our thought. ESPECIALLY the really painful, apparently gratuitous ones. love, ~the "libertarians". | [04:01] |
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mircea_popescu | and to round off the bellbottoms point from before : and all sorts of things that AREN'T stupidities, various tiny gems ensconced in the broader turd get washed out with the water. | [04:16] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform you mean defect free batch ? | [11:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00036015 = 2.5931 BTC [-] | [11:45] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: aha there you are | [11:46] |
mircea_popescu | hai! | [11:46] |
asciilifeform | the above essentially sums to 'the problems of poverty' | [11:48] |
mircea_popescu | let me do teh summing hm ? | [11:49] |
asciilifeform | sum away. | [11:49] |
mircea_popescu | so, didja mean a fedect free batch ? or else did all the items meanwhile turn defective / | [11:49] |
asciilifeform | i mean that we have a pad defect rate of about 15 percent. | [11:49] |
asciilifeform | if the rng batch is any indication of general quality of the vendor. | [11:50] |
mircea_popescu | well if the rng is 30ish and the board 100, we could easily expect 3^2 that many defects in the board. | [11:50] |
mircea_popescu | nevertheless, what's the plan with it currently ? | [11:51] |
asciilifeform | this isn't lethal, but it does call for certain revisions in mainboard design. presently, i have reopened it, adding test points. and considering splitting mainboard in two, even. (also for testability) | [11:51] |
mircea_popescu | hm | [11:51] |
asciilifeform | this takes serious thought. | [11:52] |
* | asciilifeform does not often do 'serious thought' | [11:52] |
mircea_popescu | so basically, you're preparing a more mf-friendly board design (mostly to improve testability) and intend to have them try make half a dozen or something ? | [11:52] |
asciilifeform | aha. | [11:52] |
mircea_popescu | you know, seeing how they seem to replace defects etc, it would not be the end of the world to blow a few btc on just ordering that half dozen as is | [11:53] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: see above re: btc | [11:53] |
mircea_popescu | we end up with 6 functioning boards in 3 shipments out of 54 duds, so what. | [11:53] |
mircea_popescu | i can arrange for them to get a wire, what's teh big deal. | [11:53] |
asciilifeform | btc is 'after-the-war-money' for me | [11:53] |
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asciilifeform | the big deal is that we're dangerously undercapitalized. | [11:54] |
mircea_popescu | we are ? | [11:55] |
asciilifeform | aha. | [11:55] |
mircea_popescu | i dun see it. how do these people get paid anyway ? paypal ? or what is it ? | [11:55] |
asciilifeform | visa. | [11:55] |
asciilifeform | iirc - only it. | [11:56] |
mircea_popescu | you asked ? | [11:56] |
asciilifeform | i asked the www, l0l | [11:56] |
mircea_popescu | no, mf. | [11:56] |
mircea_popescu | says on their site or something ? | [11:57] |
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mircea_popescu | meanwhile, who wants to do buy me ~1k worth of parts with this outfit ? | [11:57] |
mircea_popescu | was complaining about exchanges earlier, williamdunne ? danielpbarron ? | [11:57] |
asciilifeform | that's the thing, buying 1000 units from mf is suicidally stupid | [11:58] |
mircea_popescu | 1k dollars dood, not 1k units. | [11:58] |
mircea_popescu | what, they're a dollar a pop ? | [11:58] |
asciilifeform | l0l no. | [11:58] |
mircea_popescu | well so then. | [11:58] |
mircea_popescu | you spec an order of boards meanwhile to be ~1k | [11:58] |
asciilifeform | 1k dollars doesn't need help, it comes out of my own piggy. | [11:59] |
mircea_popescu | .... | [11:59] |
mircea_popescu | im confused as to the actual problem is then | [11:59] |
asciilifeform | the actual problem is that the sapper gets to err two or three times, at best | [11:59] |
mircea_popescu | yes yes but the sapper doesn't get to contemplate his fate for too long and remain a sapper. | [11:59] |
mircea_popescu | gotta order some boards. | [11:59] |
mircea_popescu | nobody forces them to use em if they're broken, but we gotta know. | [12:00] |
asciilifeform | think of it as venus mission. the probe is allowed to burn, yes, but needs to transmit some useful data before burns up. | [12:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74400 @ 0.00036015 = 26.7952 BTC [-] | [12:01] |
mircea_popescu | an you judge that ordering a few boards to produce a few prototype cardanos is not useful data ? | [12:01] |
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asciilifeform | it is useful data if i can expect at least one working board in the batch. | [12:02] |
mircea_popescu | well inasmuch as they seem to replace duds, i think we can expect. | [12:02] |
mircea_popescu | this is a business, not a tech decision. they've not run with a hundred, can be trusted with a k. | [12:03] |
mircea_popescu | if they run with it, a well. what's called a write-off. | [12:03] |
asciilifeform | currently waiting to see what they will say re: the cause of the five dud rng. | [12:03] |
mircea_popescu | aha. | [12:03] |
mircea_popescu | just, you know, teh nobles are getting restless. | [12:03] |
asciilifeform | after these in fact come back, in working order, we carry on with step 2. | [12:03] |
asciilifeform | meanwhile looking at other manufacturing houses aiming to compete with mf. | [12:04] |
mircea_popescu | sounds liek a plan | [12:04] |
asciilifeform | the restless folks are also invited to visit #b-a (or my personal mailbox, gpg plz.) | [12:05] |
asciilifeform | but i believe that i have explained the basics. | [12:05] |
mircea_popescu | i believe so. | [12:07] |
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mircea_popescu | an' in other news... wife trainin' http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md9261g2Uf1rfc12eo1_400.gif | [12:11] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARLoIP ) | [12:11] |
shinohai | At risk of sounding stupid, are these rng boards meant to generate keys in an airgapped manner, safe from those who are trying to break/weaken encryption? | [12:11] |
mircea_popescu | !s cardano | [12:12] |
assbot | 514 results for 'cardano' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cardano | [12:12] |
mircea_popescu | shinohai ^ (see the oldest pages). also http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-first-product-the-cardano/ and ulterior s.nsa reports | [12:12] |
assbot | S.NSA first product - The Cardano on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARLsZ5 ) | [12:12] |
shinohai | ty reading nau | [12:13] |
shinohai | I can see the advantages of a from-scratch board tho. I have seen various forms of this with arduinos, et all. But that leaves open the possibility of the hardware you are building on being compromised. | [12:15] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform shockingly enough, the muryokoin in muryokoin.org is a... temple in koyasan | [12:15] |
mircea_popescu | wut teh fuck. | [12:15] |
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mircea_popescu | (and the shumitsu aka pearl of honesty was, at the time, the head honzo) | [12:16] |
* | asciilifeform brb, food | [12:17] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155945 << eh come on. we arrange for you to move in with one of the dc area sluts for a coupla months, save on rent :D | [12:20] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 14:25:34; asciilifeform: if it is on account of some imperfection in the design, however minute - different matter | [12:20] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155952 << it could be made to mill finer but only with addition of particular apparatus. which can just as well be added as a standalone different mill being fed the prequalified choice grains. so let it be, we get to it once the world fails at doing anything useful with its time yet again, in a year or w/e. | [12:22] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 14:37:49; asciilifeform: as it is, half the time it sees 4294967297 and - naturally - stops there | [12:22] |
shinohai | ;;later tell WolfeGoethe One day I shall like to make your MacBookPro go to sleep forever. XXXxxx | [12:24] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [12:24] |
mircea_popescu | heh | [12:25] |
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mircea_popescu | !up vekuso | [12:34] |
-assbot- | You voiced vekuso for 30 minutes. | [12:34] |
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asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156029 << probably diddled by request of jp in connection with investigation of 'aum' or the 1,001 other similar weirdo orgs there | [12:34] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 15:12:35; mircea_popescu: (and the shumitsu aka pearl of honesty was, at the time, the head honzo) | [12:34] |
mircea_popescu | it's a retreat for some high level computer prograsmmers. | [12:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00035965 = 9.4408 BTC [-] {2} | [12:35] |
mircea_popescu | kinda surprised you dun know it by name, on the grounds that afaik it's the only people doing what you do for a living, outside of russia | [12:35] |
asciilifeform | it isn't publicly known, afaik. and, my not being in their wot, how would i possibly know of it until now. | [12:36] |
mircea_popescu | by now phuctor's dredged up enough material for a spy novel. "what does muryokoin temple, the australian pirate party and debian/gnu have in common ?" | [12:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28150 @ 0.0003567 = 10.0411 BTC [-] | [12:36] |
asciilifeform | and apple bug tip hotline, lol | [12:36] |
shinohai | https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.11.0rc1/doc/release-notes.md#privacy-stream-isolation-for-tor | [12:36] |
assbot | bitcoin/release-notes.md at v0.11.0rc1 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARP1P2 ) | [12:36] |
shinohai | sorry, wrong window | [12:37] |
asciilifeform | shinohai: since you did link it... here's a mega-question for 'tor' enthusiasts. what's to stop a 'malicious' (diddles traffic) node from routing its circuits -back into tor-, and having some other exit end up looking like the guilty party ? | [12:38] |
asciilifeform | (question pertains to exit nodes, naturally) | [12:38] |
shinohai | That's exactly what I was discussing with someone. | [12:38] |
asciilifeform | it's a rather obvious question | [12:39] |
asciilifeform | and i have never seen anyone attempt to answer it. | [12:39] |
shinohai | tor is kinda flawed in that respect. | [12:39] |
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asciilifeform | likewise, it is trivial to construct an exit node which only doctors traffic on very specific and rare occasions | [12:39] |
asciilifeform | and when human operator is nearly certain | [12:39] |
shinohai | bad operators (read: govs most likely) have every reason to do so | [12:40] |
asciilifeform | say, it watches for the 'captcha' that google virtually always throws at tor users | [12:40] |
asciilifeform | (coming from known exits) | [12:40] |
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asciilifeform | and only begins to mitm -after captcha solved- | [12:40] |
asciilifeform | no automated inspection bot will notice the malicious exit then. | [12:40] |
shinohai | Because 99% of idiots still have js enabled ? | [12:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7165 @ 0.00036274 = 2.599 BTC [+] | [12:40] |
asciilifeform | 1,001 variations on this theme possible. | [12:40] |
asciilifeform | the very notion that there is any 'detection of malicious exits' worth half a sparrow's fart in the wind, or could be, is lunacy | [12:41] |
asciilifeform | ok this is pure gold: | [12:42] |
asciilifeform | 'Because release 0.10.0 and later makes use of headers-first synchronization and parallel block download (see further), the block files and databases are not backwards-compatible with pre-0.10 versions of Bitcoin Core or other software. Blocks will be stored on disk out of order (in the order they are received, really), which makes it incompatible with some tools or other programs... The block index database will now hold head | [12:42] |
asciilifeform | ers for which no block is stored on disk, which earlier versions won't support.' | [12:42] |
asciilifeform | mega-l0l! | [12:43] |
shinohai | Of course they arent! | [12:43] |
mircea_popescu | eh, this'd be a lot harder hitting if you know... people didn't use retarded shit like whatever that thing was bothering copypaste | [12:44] |
mircea_popescu | "install our buggy windows software, become part of a botnet" | [12:44] |
shinohai | What's Windows? | [12:44] |
copypaste | The Register, BBC and some other places wrote about that | [12:45] |
copypaste | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32958624 | [12:45] |
assbot | Hola rocked by botnet accusations - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARQGnD ) | [12:45] |
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copypaste | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/29/hola_vpn_used_8chan_takedown_botnet_or_not/ | [12:45] |
assbot | 'Free' VPN Hola is LITERALLY flogging access to users' devices • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARQHbg ) | [12:45] |
copypaste | yee | [12:45] |
shinohai | I was lmfao that this 15 yo kid hacked that up good. | [12:46] |
copypaste | oh yeah | [12:46] |
mircea_popescu | copypaste not bad. | [12:46] |
mircea_popescu | just sayin, people imagining pointing out to idiot tor users how insecure that shit is would persuade anyone ? shit, hola got 8 million users with 8 million exploitable holes in it. | [12:46] |
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shinohai | Thoughts on i2p here? | [12:50] |
copypaste | Hard to use and hogs RAM. Requires a significant investment of bandwidth as well | [12:51] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: entirely different animals. there are folks using tor exits who -really- ought to know better. | [12:51] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: the 8chan users are collectively worth what ? | [12:51] |
copypaste | like in BTC value? | [12:52] |
copypaste | most are young people or in college, so probably not much per capita | [12:52] |
shinohai | It's a lot of java, if that alone isn't enough for me to have never really study it. | [12:53] |
copypaste | yeah. All Java applications hog RAM simply due to overhead of the JVM | [12:53] |
shinohai | @ mircea_popescu : did you read the compliments from your adoring fans on r/bitcoin this morning ? | [13:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 192250 @ 0.00036056 = 69.3177 BTC [-] {6} | [13:04] |
shinohai | lol blockchain.info (0 connections) | [13:05] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform on the internet, dogs. | [13:07] |
mircea_popescu | for instance, im not on tor, have occasionally derped on imageboards. same of you i would guess. | [13:08] |
shinohai | I hav lurked around tor but their is little excitement there for me. Mostly space cadets and libertarians of the worst kind. | [13:09] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00036261 = 8.9021 BTC [+] | [13:21] |
* | asciilifeform finally grasped the point of the 'bolt mod' for 'ibm model m' keyboard. was cleaning one that has not been cleaned in a decade. keys, chassis - easy, tub of dish detergent, three days. mechanism - washed in nonpolar organics. and that's when a dozen plastic rivets fell right off. | [13:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68850 @ 0.00036061 = 24.828 BTC [-] | [13:32] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156091 << i probably should have been more specific. meant, what -their data- was worth. | [13:33] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 15:48:47; copypaste: most are young people or in college, so probably not much per capita | [13:33] |
asciilifeform | i don't give a fuck how many gold rings tor users are wearing. | [13:33] |
mircea_popescu | lol gold rings | [13:34] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156099 << what in the name of satan is a 'space cadet' ? | [13:34] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 16:05:26; shinohai: I hav lurked around tor but their is little excitement there for me. Mostly space cadets and libertarians of the worst kind. | [13:34] |
shinohai | @ asciilifeform space cadet: those that sit around in dnm's and put god knows what into their system. | [13:35] |
asciilifeform | dnm ? | [13:35] |
shinohai | dark net market | [13:35] |
asciilifeform | and wai wat, wtf, how does one 'lurk around tor' | [13:37] |
shinohai | Well, if one wants to be informed, you check it out for yourself right? | [13:38] |
asciilifeform | tor is this thing where tcp is bounced via three machines, selected by shitgnomiferous mega-turd of a client, over ssl (ditto) | [13:38] |
* | mircea_popescu gets his popped corns. | [13:38] |
asciilifeform | or was shinohai speaking of some forum devoted to the subject | [13:39] |
asciilifeform | rather than tor per se | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform plastic rivets are possibly the one stupid thing mostly saying "80s" to me. | [13:39] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: as if anyone cancelled plastic rivets! | [13:39] |
asciilifeform | sadly | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | wtf who ever thought "o look, this zamac is too strong! we need a shittier replacement!" | [13:39] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: my understanding is that this was done to avoid the work of tensioning the bolts correctly | [13:40] |
asciilifeform | the membrane (yes, there is a membrane deep inside 'model m') must be pressed to the steel 'anvil' evenly in all places, as far as is possible | [13:40] |
asciilifeform | with bolts, somebody's gotta sit there with a dynamometer wrench and do the deed | [13:41] |
asciilifeform | with plastic rivets, they had, presumably, a vacuum plate (think 'air hockey' table in reverse) and a hot iron. | [13:41] |
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asciilifeform | shinohai: pray tell, what is a 'libertarian of the wost kind' ? | [13:42] |
asciilifeform | *worst | [13:42] |
shinohai | @ asciilifeform the kind that parrot everything they hear on reddit | [13:43] |
shinohai | and make everyone look bad | [13:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72900 @ 0.00036025 = 26.2622 BTC [-] {2} | [13:43] |
shinohai | Those that tightened the tinfoil hats on too tightly, and it has forever left an indelible mark upon their brains. | [13:45] |
asciilifeform | https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/dfdb6dd052416da726db6c2e5f76e875cf08c507 << so they're still using openssl. | [13:45] |
assbot | build: disable optional use of gmp in internal secp256k1 build · bitcoin/bitcoin@dfdb6dd · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HcgJqD ) | [13:45] |
asciilifeform | shinohai: elaborate? | [13:45] |
asciilifeform | https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/75a4d512cfc9a451fa627a3487ffed102cc67cab << so the 'lock time' idiocy made it in? | [13:46] |
assbot | Fix off-by-one error w/ nLockTime in the wallet · bitcoin/bitcoin@75a4d51 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HcgR9x ) | [13:46] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920116 << see also | [13:46] |
assbot | Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element | [13:46] |
shinohai | There was this one guy who never shut up about "'murica is spraying chemicals on us every day" | [13:46] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920112 | [13:46] |
assbot | Logged on 13-11-2014 19:04:36; *: asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works' | [13:46] |
shinohai | I just don't get the appeal I guess. | [13:47] |
asciilifeform | the appeal of what ? | [13:47] |
shinohai | tor. sitting around on internet forums doing buying drugs with btc and hating on the government. | [13:48] |
* | asciilifeform associates tor mainly with spammers | [13:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89350 @ 0.00036061 = 32.2205 BTC [+] | [13:48] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: http://templelodging.com/spot/05kansai/koyasan014.html | [13:51] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1HchDDE ) | [13:51] |
shinohai | Hmmm .... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6231 | [13:51] |
assbot | Increase DEFAULT_BLOCK_MAX_SIZE to 1MB by chriswheeler · Pull Request #6231 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HchGze ) | [13:52] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: if it's a s33kr17 k00l d00dz hidey-hole, this is a well-kept s33kr17 | [13:52] |
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shinohai | He know's 1337. We can trust him. | [13:52] |
asciilifeform | long term question for mircea_popescu et. al: who is still manufacturing mc68000 ? -other- than freescale corp. ? | [13:53] |
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asciilifeform | (zilog is still making z80, nominally pin-compatible with the 1976 variant, yes.) | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00036175 = 4.0516 BTC [+] {2} | [13:54] |
asciilifeform | i, for one, have not located any maker of true mc68k other than freescale today. (the eeprom-on-board variants are not 'true' for the purpose of this query.) | [13:55] |
asciilifeform | ;;later tell BingoBoingo ^^^^ | [13:55] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [13:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.00036261 = 15.2115 BTC [+] | [13:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39679 @ 0.00036897 = 14.6404 BTC [+] | [14:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64842 @ 0.00036887 = 23.9183 BTC [-] | [14:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00036897 = 17.9688 BTC [+] | [14:22] |
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williamdunne | was complaining about exchanges earlier, williamdunne ? danielpbarron ? <<< hey? | [14:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102850 @ 0.00036947 = 38 BTC [+] {2} | [14:42] |
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williamdunne | I probably should be complaining about one particular exchange, but I'll give them a little more time to fix it, and if they don't I'll be calling them out on their bullshit | [14:46] |
danielpbarron | I'm interested in the 1k thing | [14:46] |
williamdunne | 1k thing? | [14:49] |
danielpbarron | the thign you pasted is re: buying 1k USD worth of bitcoin | [14:49] |
shinohai | So I found this http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-howto.txt on your site danielpbarron, and I just so happen to have a few spare drives already. | [14:50] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1DnWB2c ) | [14:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24783 @ 0.00036979 = 9.1645 BTC [+] {2} | [14:50] |
williamdunne | Oh right, mircea_popescu if you need to buy/sell 1k of bitcoin I can probably get that done for you | [14:50] |
williamdunne | Dependent on how you need to receive the money/what you need to order etc | [14:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78300 @ 0.00036555 = 28.6226 BTC [-] {3} | [15:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48130 @ 0.00036997 = 17.8067 BTC [+] {2} | [15:05] |
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mircea_popescu | danielpbarron williamdunne it'd be for cardano parts, but on alf's say so. thanks! | [15:17] |
mircea_popescu | !up Chicago | [15:19] |
-assbot- | You voiced Chicago for 30 minutes. | [15:19] |
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mircea_popescu | !up kalki | [15:19] |
-assbot- | You voiced kalki for 30 minutes. | [15:19] |
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kalki | gracias. | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | sure. | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | who're you ? | [15:20] |
kalki | Just a person been looking at btc since late 2013... eventually discovered Trilema, contravex, and qntra, which led me here... now just trying to learn to swim in the deeper water | [15:22] |
mircea_popescu | how's that coming along ? | [15:26] |
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mircea_popescu | http://bash.org/?203247 heh | [15:27] |
assbot | QDB: Quote #203247 ... ( http://bit.ly/1dUvqDx ) | [15:27] |
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punkman | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156135 << that's always been there, but it's not enough for their micropayment-channels and other hare-brained schemes. so they want to add more. | [15:31] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 16:42:13; asciilifeform: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/75a4d512cfc9a451fa627a3487ffed102cc67cab << so the 'lock time' idiocy made it in? | [15:31] |
kalki | well It's going - its a bit tough, but that is welcome considering that before I was limited to the level of discussion that happens on twitter or various "btc news" sites... I love the word, and REALLY appreciate the use of it I find in these circles... love the challenge - just hope I get a grip and feel confident enough as far as understanding the depths/possibilities/threats etc of what is happeningbefore the rocket leaves | [15:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25250 @ 0.00035833 = 9.0478 BTC [-] | [15:33] |
mircea_popescu | shush you libertarian. if you made it it doesn't belong to you, it belongs TO EVERYONE!11!!1 - and what that means is... yeah you've guessed it. | [15:34] |
thestringpuller | ^- someone's in a good mood today | [15:34] |
mircea_popescu | !gettrust kalki | [15:34] |
assbot | kalki is not registered in WoT. | [15:34] |
mircea_popescu | kalki you should prolly register. | [15:34] |
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kalki | mircea_pepescu Yes I need to. Will do soon! | [15:36] |
decimation | asciilifeform: I have a model m on order, should arrive soon | [15:38] |
decimation | do you think it is worth the time to 'preemptively' install bolt mod? | [15:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51300 @ 0.00037008 = 18.9851 BTC [+] {2} | [15:41] |
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davout | punkman: there's two sides to the nlocktime thing | [15:51] |
davout | the one that's always been there and the 'improved' version | [15:51] |
punkman | the "improved" is not yet in, is it? | [15:52] |
mircea_popescu | iirc it made it in with 0.10 | [15:52] |
mircea_popescu | which was going to be "major version" but then some sense got slapped into the derp rangers. | [15:52] |
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ascii_modem | http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/41C3308E5F375899710919E1484F78A1DC042B81EDDC432F38F75D4BDA9B29FC | [15:55] |
assbot | Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1FFxrta ) | [15:55] |
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ascii_modem | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156192 << mega-kolhoz l0l | [15:56] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 18:30:10; mircea_popescu: shush you libertarian. if you made it it doesn't belong to you, it belongs TO EVERYONE!11!!1 - and what that means is... yeah you've guessed it. | [15:56] |
decimation | herr stoppler is a 'pirate party' member | [15:57] |
decimation | http://stoppe-gp.de/ | [15:57] |
assbot | Martin M. Stoppler ... ( http://bit.ly/1FFxANf ) | [15:57] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_modem it's stunning to me this. the cattle seriously wish to behave as if in fact the kolhoz is the reality and what, we've missed the memo or something ? | [15:57] |
mircea_popescu | nuts. | [15:57] |
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ascii_modem | it is the only reality they cab conceive of | [15:58] |
mircea_popescu | bitcoin belongs to everyone like my sperm belongs to every woman : if she's on her knees and i feel like it. | [15:58] |
ascii_modem | logically - because in other realities, they are biodiesel. | [15:58] |
ascii_modem | 'anthropic principle' of a kind | [15:58] |
ascii_modem | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156199 << -if- you know how. otherwise it's a waste of precious and entirely nonrenewable resource (model m) | [15:59] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 18:34:45; decimation: do you think it is worth the time to 'preemptively' install bolt mod? | [15:59] |
decimation | ascii_modem: there's no equality like everyone swimming in the same fermenter | [15:59] |
ascii_modem | there are no reasonable substitutes... | [16:00] |
decimation | ascii_modem: yeah the mod looks pretty time consuming | [16:00] |
ascii_modem | when they run out - that's all. | [16:00] |
decimation | none of the guides I saw mention using a torque driver | [16:00] |
ascii_modem | hands are an approximate torque wrench | [16:01] |
ascii_modem | if they're any good | [16:01] |
ascii_modem | bbl | [16:01] |
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danielpbarron | !up elgrecoFL | [16:07] |
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mircea_popescu | . | [16:14] |
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-assbot- | Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), send me "!up" in a private message to get an OTP. You must have a sufficient WoT rating. If you do not have a WoT account or sufficient rating, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary voice. | [16:18] |
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mircea_popescu | today i learned there's a .tn | [16:28] |
mircea_popescu | "Like many (too many) other features in Wikipedia, the cite templates were created by a handful of enthusiastic editors without a clear analysis of cost/benefits, and posted by them as if they were a "consensus" --- which they most emphatically are *not*. Then many other editors started using them in the mistaken impression that they are somehow good for Wikipedia --- which they most emphatically are *not*. I used to d | [16:31] |
mircea_popescu | o that myself until I realized the sheer idiocy of those templates, and what the word "consensus" actually means in the Wikipedia guidelines." | [16:31] |
mircea_popescu | funny how pervasive this anti-pattern actually is. | [16:31] |
mircea_popescu | funny how the memory hole effect works - people capable of spotting it in a field where they're remotely trained still fall for it in ALL.OTHER.FIELDS. | [16:32] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00037058 = 11.3768 BTC [+] | [16:44] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49500 @ 0.00035423 = 17.5344 BTC [-] {2} | [17:05] |
jurov | !rate Birdman 1 help with eulora on win32 | [17:05] |
assbot | Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/de552facbec313eb | [17:05] |
jurov | !v assbot:jurov.rate.Birdman.1:2578d6eb28c39a9dc8019704a0791f65f509d16dedc4869f46b9b3fd5689836f | [17:06] |
assbot | Successfully added a rating of 1 for Birdman with note: help with eulora on win32 | [17:06] |
jurov | http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows << to anyone interested: he got it running using these steps | [17:07] |
assbot | Eulora for Windows - serialized delusions ... ( http://bit.ly/1cE14DE ) | [17:07] |
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mircea_popescu | !gettrust birdman | [17:08] |
assbot | Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user birdman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=birdman | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/birdman/ | [17:08] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100150 @ 0.00037082 = 37.1376 BTC [+] {3} | [17:23] |
mircea_popescu | an' in other news, http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc5mm1rWzl1re0c2uo1_500.gif | [17:23] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1cE1LNh ) | [17:24] |
mircea_popescu | !rate Birdman 1 Eulorian | [17:24] |
assbot | Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/5d4f1c111acd7bc8 | [17:24] |
mircea_popescu | !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.Birdman.1:976f7718f13a10006b4dbcb51863678430ef492efc4cfa5f8edd81f76162d7e8 | [17:24] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov "no comment no trackback" << except i left you one, and it looks kinda weird. | [17:38] |
jurov | everything is moderated | [17:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67814 @ 0.00035346 = 23.9695 BTC [-] {4} | [17:48] |
mircea_popescu | a k | [17:49] |
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jurov | it uploads 20kB/s O.o | [17:54] |
jurov | now it's picking up | [17:56] |
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jurov | mircea_popescu: all is uploaded, Eulora-June12015-win32.7z and cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe should be replaced with download links | [17:59] |
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jurov | what did you do comment (i could not find it) or trackback? | [18:15] |
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shinohai | added to pr0nbot: https://i.imgur.com/g94RGlL.jpg | [18:46] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTumhJ ) | [18:46] |
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trinque | fixing this text encoding derpitude | [18:47] |
shinohai | I'm just now getting comfy w/assbot. I was assured that assbot accepts all forms of ass. (x3!) | [18:49] |
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trinque | has it been stress tested with a wide sampling of asses? | [18:50] |
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shinohai | no. I am attempting to build a worthy bot. I was inspired by danielpbarron's node project - to use this minaturized wizardry to construct a dedicated pr0n node.... | [18:52] |
decimation | asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/a/yEwTt < internals of that termtek 635 serial terminal | [18:53] |
assbot | tk635 inside - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1ASEH9y ) | [18:53] |
decimation | it has an 80188, no fans, apparently EPROM | [18:53] |
shinohai | https://i.imgur.com/WHYfqVF.jpg |
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assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1ASEQK1 ) | [18:53] |
trinque | helicopter covered in sensors of some kind just flew over | [18:54] |
trinque | god bless america | [18:54] |
shinohai | I feel so safe and free. | [18:54] |
trinque | had some kind of (radar? rf sniffing?) proboscis | [18:55] |
decimation | the only thing weird about the terminal is the resolution of the display, only certain monitors seem to be able to sync properly | [18:55] |
decimation | trinque: if it was just a tube sticking out in front it is probably for mid-air refueling (assuming it is military) | [18:55] |
trinque | did appear to be military | [18:56] |
shinohai | We would never do anything bad or malicious with our JavaScript, and if you ever run into any problems then feel free to |
[18:56] |
trinque | the guy had equipment of some kind underneath the body of the copter, and something under the nose | [18:56] |
trinque | should've taken a pic | [18:56] |
decimation | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M4ljh-vliQ < bigass heli refueling (turn off audio!) | [18:57] |
assbot | Legacy KC-130 refuels CH-53 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTvXnL ) | [18:57] |
trinque | nah I've seen that | [18:57] |
trinque | pretty cool | [18:57] |
trinque | this was some wide panel under the nose, rounded | [18:58] |
shinohai | I live near a small airport, so I am used to hearing planes. | [18:58] |
decimation | ah. was it a bell jet ranger? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_206#/media/File:LAPD_Bell_206_Jetranger.jpg | [18:58] |
assbot | Bell 206 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTw8zf ) | [18:58] |
decimation | many of the media helicopters from local tv stations have external cameras now | [18:59] |
trinque | nah, this was painted all a muted gray, different shape, bulkier | [18:59] |
trinque | grayish brown | [18:59] |
trinque | media tend to have more prominent markings | [18:59] |
decimation | like a eurocopter dolphin https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/USCG_MH-65C_Helicopter_6608_photo_D_Ramey_Logan.jpg | [19:00] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1ASFPtE ) | [19:00] |
decimation | ^ note it has "inboard" tail rotor | [19:00] |
trinque | there ya go | [19:00] |
trinque | pretty much that guy | [19:00] |
trinque | bulkier equipment under the nose | [19:00] |
trinque | and brown-gray | [19:01] |
decimation | interesting. what part of the country are you in? | [19:01] |
trinque | portland, or | [19:01] |
decimation | well whoever it was they had alot of cash to burn | [19:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62200 @ 0.00036691 = 22.8218 BTC [-] | [19:06] |
decimation | trinque: apparently cbp flies something somewhat similar https://www.flickr.com/photos/mdl_photography/4716744732/ | [19:07] |
assbot | U.S. Customs & Border Protection Eurocopter AS350 B2 Astar… | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTxzO8 ) | [19:08] |
trinque | interesting | [19:08] |
trinque | there's a state air national guard base nearby | [19:09] |
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trinque | ^ back shortly | [19:12] |
mod6 | Update on gentoo build on physical box: so trinque & I worked on trying to get this Grub situtation figured out for quite a while lastnight. Seems that maybe something with grub2 doesn't like my hardware. Grub 0.9x is no longer supported... so I dunno. | [19:14] |
cazalla | jurov, i think it's working! (eulora runs on win7) | [19:14] |
mod6 | I'm gonna try a few other things, might need to get this figured out on another machine. We'll see. | [19:14] |
mod6 | Will update again as I have them. | [19:14] |
mod6 | Thanks to trinque for the help. | [19:15] |
trinque | np | [19:15] |
shinohai | @ mod6 anything interesting on the bitcoind side of things? | [19:15] |
mod6 | Not of this moment, ... there was a completion of a full sync completed with asciilifeform's OrphanageThermonuke & TX Orphanage Amputation patches applied to v0.5.3.1-RELEASE. Nmon charts can be found here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/test/perf/v0_5_3_1-RELEASE-Plus-OrphanageThermonuke-And-TXOrphanageAmputation/20150604/ | [19:18] |
assbot | Index of /test/perf/v0_5_3_1-RELEASE-Plus-OrphanageThermonuke-And-TXOrphanageAmputation/20150604 ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTyYnO ) | [19:18] |
mod6 | I'm gonna work on trying to get IgProf going here now. | [19:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25236 @ 0.00037088 = 9.3595 BTC [+] {2} | [19:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71393 @ 0.0003718 = 26.5439 BTC [+] {3} | [19:20] |
shinohai | My sync is complete. My next project is a few mini nodes. | [19:20] |
shinohai | It runs beautiful. It speaks to my minimalist heart. | [19:21] |
mod6 | ah cool :] | [19:21] |
mod6 | you're gonna get a pogo going? i still need to get a chance to get mine fired up. | [19:21] |
mod6 | too many different things I gotta get done first. | [19:21] |
mod6 | heheh. | [19:21] |
shinohai | Yeah, I'm gonna try the pogo, I got it running *sorta* in sl4a | [19:22] |
trinque | I need to re-image my pogo | [19:22] |
trinque | I forget what IP it comes up as :p | [19:22] |
trinque | rather, which it expects the netcat it connects to at | [19:22] |
mod6 | sl4a 'eh | [19:23] |
shinohai | yeah go ahead an insult me xD | [19:23] |
mod6 | naw, i think it's interesting. let us know how that ends up. | [19:23] |
trinque | >minimalist | [19:24] |
trinque | >android | [19:24] |
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* | shinohai *shrugs* | [19:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52250 @ 0.000372 = 19.437 BTC [+] | [19:25] |
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* | trinque chants awaken | [19:26] |
trinque | there he is | [19:26] |
shinohai | Maybe one day I'll be so hardcore I can run it on a TI | [19:26] |
trinque | just giving you shit | [19:27] |
trinque | you could give the buildroot instructions a whirl for the pogo | [19:27] |
shinohai | I had never even heard of a pogo before. | [19:27] |
shinohai | tbh | [19:27] |
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decimation | asciilifeform: the construction of the terminal is nice, 19 gauge steel | [19:29] |
trinque | decimation: what'd that run ya? | [19:29] |
decimation | it was like $60 shipped on ebay | [19:30] |
decimation | probably could get it cheaper if you could dumpster dive in the right spots | [19:30] |
decimation | it appears to be from a point of sale terminal | [19:30] |
trinque | cool | [19:30] |
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nubbins` | got an information-finding task if anyone's up for it | [19:31] |
trinque | I might be crazy, but I *think* my dream mobile device is nothing but a terminal emulator that can ssh elsewhere | [19:31] |
ben_vulpes | 1500 lines! | [19:32] |
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nubbins` | inkjet printers have waste ink counters that are incremented when you do a head cleaning | [19:34] |
nubbins` | once the counter gets high enough, you can't print anymore until you reset the counter | [19:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38200 @ 0.000372 = 14.2104 BTC [+] | [19:34] |
shinohai | and? | [19:35] |
nubbins` | for newer printers, you generally get a free "wic reset" program and then purchase keys (~$7ea in quantity) that are good for single resets | [19:35] |
nubbins` | but i think this is bullshit and i don't want to pay some company $7 every time i want to reset a counter | [19:35] |
shinohai | oh so you need a wic reset program ? | [19:35] |
nubbins` | no, i have one | [19:35] |
nubbins` | well. | [19:35] |
shinohai | nice | [19:35] |
nubbins` | i need one that doesn't require the purchase of keys ;/ | [19:35] |
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nubbins` | epson has a wic reset utility but it doesn't cover newer printers | [19:36] |
* | shinohai doesn't even own a printer. | [19:37] |
trinque | seems like we're at the point that you could pick anything to manufacture in the tech sector, and provided you *actually produce the thing named on the box* you'd be the greatest product in that space | [19:39] |
trinque | what a sad fucking state | [19:39] |
trinque | nubbins`: so this thing is just some arbitrary amount of bytes in flash somewhere that must be reset periodically? | [19:39] |
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shinohai | I made the phastest btc miner EVAH! https://i.imgur.com/chaUJhn.png | [19:41] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTBJFX ) | [19:41] |
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mod6 | HEH | [19:42] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.000372 = 7.7748 BTC [+] | [19:43] |
ben_vulpes | [19:44] | |
trinque | mircea_popescu: #4 will deedify at the hour | [19:46] |
trinque | I sent it through to reproduce the exception (after re-uploading it to dpaste) and... it worked | [19:47] |
trinque | actually strike that, lemme find the original link and I'll see if I can break it again | [19:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28653 @ 0.00037202 = 10.6595 BTC [+] {2} | [19:52] |
trinque | mircea_popescu: ah so mpex.ws does not say Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 | [19:53] |
trinque | in its response | [19:53] |
trinque | just text/plain | [19:53] |
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shinohai | ;;bcstats | [19:53] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 359753 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 1110 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 59 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48688761596.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.30969 | [19:53] |
trinque | I can probably obviate worrying about that by just trying to decode everything as utf-8 | [19:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68900 @ 0.00037226 = 25.6487 BTC [+] {2} | [19:53] |
shinohai | welp blockchain.info is back up | [19:54] |
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nubbins` | <+trinque> nubbins`: so this thing is just some arbitrary amount of bytes in flash somewhere that must be reset periodically? <<< the waste ink sponge eventually will overflow... unless you add an external waste ink tank. | [19:54] |
trinque | ah got ya | [19:55] |
nubbins` | but mine was at 85%-ish when it stopped printing | [19:55] |
trinque | but of course! heh | [19:55] |
nubbins` | most consumer-level printers never get close to filling their sponge | [19:55] |
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trinque | by not giving you an override, they're just saving you from yourself | [19:55] |
nubbins` | they either clog up or get broken or sold/trashed before things get to that point | [19:55] |
nubbins` | but if you print enormous amounts of heavy-coverage paper | [19:56] |
nubbins` | things can get outta hand | [19:56] |
nubbins` | oh ALSO | [19:57] |
nubbins` | totally would be interested in a service manual for this thing (epson 1430) | [19:57] |
nubbins` | if anyone happens to know where to find such things | [19:57] |
mod6 | ok igprof is built... now to just run it with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE... | [20:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00037241 = 5.6606 BTC [+] | [20:03] |
scoopbot_revived | Protected: Bitcoin Exchanges breaking agreements; BitFinex edition! http://thethug.life/lessons-are-for-schmucks/ | [20:03] |
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mod6 | ok asciilifeform's igprof_hooks patch applied to v0.5.3.1-RELEASE | [20:06] |
mod6 | building... | [20:06] |
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mod6 | [ I'm running igprof with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE first as we know with this version the OOM-KILL signal is recieved. Maybe we can get a deeper glimpse to what's going on here. ] | [20:08] |
mod6 | After a profile with vanilla v0.5.3.1-RELEASE, I'll further profile with the two Orphanage Patches. | [20:09] |
mod6 | Unless anyone objects in the next 30 minutes or so. | [20:09] |
mod6 | as as separate note, I will not be running NMON with this full-sync test -- I want to get as clean of a igprof profile as I can. Don't want any thing else to disturb it's collection. | [20:11] |
shinohai | https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/38nmxn/nyse_chairman_millennials_trust_bitcoin_more_than/crxbic1 | [20:14] |
assbot | prisonsuit-rabbitman comments on NYSE Chairman: Millennials Trust Bitcoin More Than Fiat ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jvp8az ) | [20:14] |
shinohai | so i can draw ponies and get paid btc for ppl to fap to? | [20:15] |
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trinque | deedbot-: http://mpex.ws/assets/s.bbet-2FB7B452.txt | [20:19] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvpFt0 ) | [20:19] |
deedbot- | accepted: 1 | [20:19] |
trinque | mircea_popescu: ^ | [20:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18219 @ 0.00037241 = 6.7849 BTC [+] | [20:23] |
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mod6 | alright, bitcoind build cleanly with the igprof_hooks patch applied. | [20:28] |
mod6 | now to try to fire this thing up. | [20:29] |
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ben_vulpes | right on, mod6 | [20:32] |
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mod6 | ok it's running. | [20:36] |
mod6 | This is all I see so far: http://dpaste.com/1N346W0.txt | [20:40] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvrPcc ) | [20:40] |
mod6 | asciilifeform: check this out, does this look ok so far? ^^ | [20:40] |
mod6 | it was executed like so: `nohup $INSTAREA/bin/igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin -daemon -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log &` | [20:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107200 @ 0.00036399 = 39.0197 BTC [-] {3} | [20:42] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00036618 = 5.8223 BTC [+] | [20:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33493 @ 0.000359 = 12.024 BTC [-] {2} | [20:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86506 @ 0.00036604 = 31.6647 BTC [+] {2} | [20:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 135800 @ 0.00036917 = 50.1333 BTC [+] {4} | [21:05] |
ben_vulpes | [21:07] | |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTumhJ ) | [21:07] |
* | williamdunne personally enjoys the teasy photos | [21:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81057 @ 0.00036702 = 29.7495 BTC [-] | [21:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00035839 = 3.333 BTC [-] | [21:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 198474 @ 0.00035777 = 71.008 BTC [-] {4} | [21:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 286576 @ 0.00035199 = 100.8719 BTC [-] {4} | [21:24] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46679 @ 0.00036702 = 17.1321 BTC [+] | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | better pronz http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8f9s1WVGr1qj9dtwo1_1280.jpg | [21:46] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gs29fP ) | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | trinque cool! | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | deedbot- http://mpex.co/assets/s.bbet-1F2489E8.txt | [21:46] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gs2fUR ) | [21:47] |
deedbot- | accepted: 1 | [21:47] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156275 << comment yes. | [21:48] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 21:11:27; jurov: what did you do comment (i could not find it) or trackback? | [21:48] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156346 << lol tell me about it. | [21:51] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 22:17:56; mod6: too many different things I gotta get done first. | [21:51] |
cazalla | williamdunne, leaves a bit to the imagination eh | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156390 << quite. | [21:52] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 22:35:12; trinque: seems like we're at the point that you could pick anything to manufacture in the tech sector, and provided you *actually produce the thing named on the box* you'd be the greatest product in that space | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | that is exactly the point we're at - the collapse of "civilisation" won't even actually leave any sort of a hole. | [21:52] |
decimation | that, and "it actually works" | [21:52] |
decimation | the hole is constantly filled with chinese junk | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | which is how these things happen. it's not that the various people in the empire "left" the empire for the barbarians. | [21:53] |
williamdunne | cazalla: Thats the one | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | it's that for anything but the verbiage - they didn't even know they were in an empire. | [21:53] |
decimation | mircea_popescu: somewhere along the line people forgot how to make hydraulic concrete | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | ... | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | you just add fly ash ? | [21:55] |
decimation | nobody built concrete aquaducts again until long after rome fell into the hole | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | oh oh. i see whast you meant now :p | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156407 << word. | [21:57] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 22:49:55; trinque: I can probably obviate worrying about that by just trying to decode everything as utf-8 | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156424 << lulzwut! | [21:58] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 22:59:07; scoopbot_revived: Protected: Bitcoin Exchanges breaking agreements; BitFinex edition! http://thethug.life/lessons-are-for-schmucks/ | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | williamdunne did scoop just rape your securitits ? | [21:58] |
williamdunne | mircea_popescu: It did indeed | [21:58] |
williamdunne | I shall punish my slave for its disobedience | [21:58] |
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mircea_popescu | http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdf1wz7eBc1rq6vz1o1_500.gif << slave punished for her disrobedience. | [22:00] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1F1WyFO ) | [22:00] |
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williamdunne | mircea_popescu: Scoop isn't that attractive | [22:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00036361 = 14.3626 BTC [-] {2} | [22:14] |
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mircea_popescu | !up Phrenico | [22:42] |
-assbot- | You voiced Phrenico for 30 minutes. | [22:42] |
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Phrenico | Hey, thanks. | [22:43] |
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trinque | http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/5/18/traumatized-students-sue-california-district-for-support.html << lol, they're trying to get "emotional trauma" ruled a disability legally under the ADA, which apparently means you don't have to pass high school, and are due lots of expensive pills and therapy sessions to reinforce your narcissism | [23:19] |
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assbot | Traumatized Students Sue CA. District For Support | Al Jazeera America ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2VMfM ) | [23:19] |
trinque | go ahead kids! drain the thing! | [23:19] |
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williamdunne | On that note, did you hear about the school that gave out laptops that students could take home, which automatically too photos every 15 minutes? | [23:24] |
trinque | hahaha, no | [23:27] |
trinque | doesn't surprise me one bit | [23:27] |
trinque | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/02/school-district-accused-of-issuing-webcam-laptops-to-spy-on-students/1#.VXOrZ60Viko | [23:29] |
assbot | School district accused of spying on kids via laptop webcams ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2WLwv ) | [23:29] |
trinque | "in fact has the ability to remotely activate the webcam contained in a student's personal laptop computer issued by the school district at any time it chose and to view and capture whatever images were in front of the webcam, all without the knowledge, permission or authorization of any persons then and there using the laptop computer." | [23:29] |
trinque | you have to put that totalitarian fear in kids young | [23:30] |
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williamdunne | Yes, well doing our job for us I guess | [23:44] |
williamdunne | Fuck debit cards | [23:44] |
williamdunne | Seriously | [23:44] |
williamdunne | Keeps getting rejected even though I'm going through the VBV crap | [23:44] |
williamdunne | I know, yes, it does look odd that I'm booking a flight from Prague to Bucharest | [23:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00037276 = 13.1584 BTC [+] | [23:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65200 @ 0.00035859 = 23.3801 BTC [-] | [23:56] |
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