Forum logs for 06 Dec 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

*	elgrecoFL has quit (Excess Flood)	[00:00]
*	Kleeck\|HookersNB (~kleeck@c-50-151-121-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:02]
*	kleeck (~kleeck@c-50-151-121-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:02]
*	elgrecoF- (Jezzz@unaffiliated/elgrecofl) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358242.0	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	it never ends	[00:05]
ozbot	Next generation 14nm mining grid	[00:05]
pankkake	"	[00:08]
pankkake	We plan to harness what will soon be the largest and most efficient pool of hashing power in the world"	[00:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33805978 BTC [-]	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	herpderpetc	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	i plan to fart a new ring for saturn	[00:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33806979 = 0.6761 BTC [+]	[00:10]
ThickAsThieves	I can finally have my ASIC phone?	[00:10]
ThickAsThieves	and the floor tiles, are they in the works?	[00:10]
pankkake	oh right it's the smartphone idea, lol. that's why I closed it the first time	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	i like the part about THE SCAMMERS chjecking other people's records./	[00:11]
pankkake	floor tiles would actually be smart (if you have nothing better than electricity)	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	bloody nigerian cheek.	[00:11]
ThickAsThieves	wouldnt want no criminals holding shares now	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	right-o	[00:12]
*	AusBitBank has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[00:14]
pankkake	perhaps they are nigerians with an ethical policy of only scamming americans	[00:14]
nubbins`	aaaaugh	[00:18]
*	tyrion70 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[00:18]
nubbins`	60 minutes on a stationary bike	[00:18]
nubbins`	definitely less fun than 60 minutes on a moving bike	[00:18]
*	tyrion70 (~Adium@unaffiliated/tyrion70) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:18]
*	Vexual (~Vexual@46.165.251.66) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:18]
Vexual	worst botnet ever	[00:18]
*	zoinky (~Adium@unaffiliated/zoinky) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:19]
Vexual	chinese pesants can't put bitcoins in the bank. am i reading correctly?	[00:21]
nubbins`	http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-5-BTC-Casascius-Physical-BITCOIN-Redeemed-BONUS-5mBTC-Coin-LOADED-w-BTC-/321262450654?ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSA:US:1123	[00:22]
ozbot	2012 5 BTC Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed Bonus 5MBTC Coin Loaded w BTC \| eBay	[00:22]
nubbins`	^ arij from -otc got $234.50 for a token :0	[00:22]
pankkake	ALUMINUM!!!!	[00:22]
nubbins`	ah, i thought it was nickel?	[00:23]
nubbins`	not sure	[00:23]
ThickAsThieves	"The residue resulting from peeling off the hologram is included."	[00:23]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[00:23]
nubbins`	yeah	[00:23]
nubbins`	lel	[00:23]
nubbins`	i went a step further and removed all messy residue from mine	[00:24]
nubbins`	maybe that's why it's only at $145	[00:24]
ThickAsThieves	residue not included	[00:24]
nubbins`	residue sold separately	[00:24]
nubbins`	Up for auction is one (1) ball of residue from a Casascius physical bitcoin	[00:24]
nubbins`	wow your friends! scare your mom!	[00:25]
ThickAsThieves	here's the "try" email of the day	[00:25]
ThickAsThieves	"Hello: I am interested in opening a account.	[00:25]
ThickAsThieves	Thank you."	[00:25]
nubbins`	hah	[00:25]
nubbins`	one-line reply	[00:25]
nubbins`	"Thank you for your interest."	[00:25]
ThickAsThieves	Thank you foR Your interest.	[00:26]
nubbins`	bolded for emphasis	[00:26]
nubbins`	if only the letters "h-a-r-d-e-r" were in the word "interest"	[00:26]
*	andreas_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)	[00:27]
ThickAsThieves	maybe usg is trying to set me up or some shit	[00:27]
nubbins`	time to relocate	[00:27]
*	zoinky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[00:28]
Vexual	st kitss has good residue	[00:28]
ThickAsThieves	i went for "We do not offer accounts."	[00:28]
*	Uglux has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[00:28]
*	zoinky (~Adium@unaffiliated/zoinky) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00079145 = 9.1412 BTC [+] {2}	[00:36]
*	jborkl (~jborkl@2602:30a:2c51:e730:655e:5e29:26f5:6864) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:37]
*	jborkl has quit (Changing host)	[00:37]
*	jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:37]
KRS\|gotyawallet	another exchange coming it looks like..well funded launch too	[00:37]
KRS\|gotyawallet	kind of	[00:37]
KRS\|gotyawallet	http://www.pehub.com/2013/11/itbit-closes-3-25-mln-funding-round-unveils-bitcoin-trading-platform/	[00:38]
ozbot	» itBit closes $3.25 mln funding round and unveils Bitcoin trading platform	[00:38]
KRS\|gotyawallet	ecom type web sites can easily chew through that kind of funding..hope its just the initial round of investment	[00:38]
ThickAsThieves	Neo is more well-funded even	[00:39]
*	CheckDavid has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[00:41]
*	kleeck has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[00:41]
*	Kleeck\|HookersNB has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)	[00:41]
*	smidge (smidge@p5B02DBAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:45]
*	coolsa (~coolsa@S0106001b2f0f272f.cg.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:48]
*	benkay (~user@71-214-120-51.ptld.qwest.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:48]
benkay	"retail investors must reside outside the us"	[00:50]
benkay	the decline doth proceed apace.	[00:50]
mike_c	;;bc,stats	[00:51]
gribble	Current Blocks: 273270 \| Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 \| Next Difficulty In: 905 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 39 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 871682636.513 \| Estimated Percent Change: 23.222	[00:51]
*	ThickAsThieves laughs in the face of Difficulty!	[00:54]
Vexual	I thought that was creative chinese tax accountants i could hear	[00:54]
benkay	;;ticker	[00:54]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1106.00001, Best ask: 1106.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.44999, Last trade: 1106.0, 24 hour volume: 58208.70733260, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1067.55523	[00:54]
pankkake	;;ticker --market btcavg	[00:55]
gribble	BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1026.26, Best ask: 1031.45, Bid-ask spread: 5.19000, Last trade: 1034.03, 24 hour volume: 187327.5, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 1062.1	[00:55]
benkay	;;calc 1106*30	[00:55]
gribble	33180	[00:55]
pankkake	;;premium mtgox bitstamp	[00:55]
gribble	Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 8.56154367093 %.	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	itbit eh	[00:56]
benkay	;;calc 1026.26*30	[00:56]
gribble	30787.8	[00:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00079236 = 0.3169 BTC [+]	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	nbwajhahaha cellphone mining	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	where do these retards get assembled i wish to know	[00:57]
nubbins`	i guess icbit was taken	[00:58]
pankkake	I love when they get angry at you (like 7C it seems). Who's begging for who's money?	[00:58]
mike_c	people are angry at you on the forums? hard to believe.	[01:00]
nubbins`	lel	[01:00]
*	smidge has quit (Quit: sorry, but you've mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck...)	[01:01]
ThickAsThieves	http://bitcoinviews.com/university-of-nicosia-receives-first-tuition-payment-using-bitcoin/	[01:03]
ozbot	University of Nicosia Receives First Tuition Payment Using Bitcoin	[01:03]
ThickAsThieves	Who will be the first Master of Digital Currency?	[01:03]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.unic.ac.cy	[01:04]
ozbot	University of Nicosia	[01:04]
ThickAsThieves	they arent kidding	[01:04]
pankkake	a bitcoin class, why not? there's already on for starcraft http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/01/uc-berkeley-int/	[01:04]
ThickAsThieves	right on the home page	[01:04]
pankkake	wow	[01:04]
ThickAsThieves	I met that guy, in the Video section	[01:05]
ThickAsThieves	was pretty interesting guy	[01:05]
ThickAsThieves	vid is Greek tho	[01:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [7C] 16 @ 0.0077 = 0.1232 BTC {2}	[01:06]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.unic.ac.cy/about-us/university-of-nicosia-digital-currency-initiative/msc-digital-currency	[01:07]
ozbot	MSc Digital Currency \| University of Nicosia	[01:07]
*	jborkl has quit (Quit: jborkl)	[01:15]
*	CheckDavid (~david@unaffiliated/checkdavid) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:17]
*	GordonG3kko has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[01:17]
nubbins`	lel	[01:18]
nubbins`	pascale re: S.NSA t-shirts	[01:18]
nubbins`	"remember the models with their pussies out?"	[01:18]
nubbins`	"yep"	[01:18]
*	GordonG3kko (~GordonG3k@gateway/tor-sasl/gordong3kko) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:19]
*	mike_c has quit ()	[01:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0029 = 0.116 BTC [-] {2}	[01:22]
Vexual	http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/ you got quoted TAT	[01:22]
ozbot	How to bet against the bitcoin megabubble - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet	[01:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 169 @ 0.00285973 = 0.4833 BTC [-] {6}	[01:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285 = 0.285 BTC [-] {2}	[01:24]
*	AusBitBank (~adam@eth491.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:25]
benkay	"that lead me to question just how real the prices MPEx was quoting were"	[01:25]
nubbins`	hahaha	[01:26]
nubbins`	hey, it's stephen gandel!	[01:26]
benkay	as real as the people buying them, one assumes	[01:26]
benkay	2 contracts minimum to profit	[01:26]
benkay	well i say	[01:26]
benkay	sounds like you need some capitalization	[01:27]
benkay	american "news" organizations	[01:27]
ThickAsThieves	wow	[01:27]
ThickAsThieves	mpex on fortune	[01:27]
ThickAsThieves	wooy	[01:27]
ThickAsThieves	woot*	[01:27]
benkay	"you can totally short bitcoins profitably - it just takes a lot of money to make it reasonably profitable. ergo, bitcoins r tardfodder."	[01:27]
*	Kleeck (~Kleeck@c-50-151-121-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:27]
*	AndrewJackson has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[01:28]
benkay	rage rage rage rage	[01:28]
Vexual	I was told this happens a lot.	[01:28]
ThickAsThieves	"You can't currently do that with bitcoins. All of the bitcoin options and futures contracts are settled in bitcoins. This is a very bad deal."	[01:29]
ThickAsThieves	I guess he didnt get it	[01:29]
*	AndrewJackson (~AndrewJac@117.10.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:30]
Apocalyptic	the first comment was from pankkake	[01:30]
pankkake	I got quoted on options?	[01:30]
ThickAsThieves	"On top of all that, this isn't like trading on the New York Stock Exchange. Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared. I was told this happens a lot. As of early Thursday, the exchange still wasn't listing prices. "	[01:30]
ThickAsThieves	awww	[01:30]
pankkake	I don't even know what options are!	[01:30]
ThickAsThieves	i dont see where any of us are quoted ... ?	[01:31]
Apocalyptic	don't see it either	[01:31]
Apocalyptic	pankkake, no look at the first comment author's avatar	[01:32]
Apocalyptic	it's you amirite	[01:32]
Vexual	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2013#406136 not an actual quote	[01:32]
ozbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[01:32]
pankkake	Apocalyptic: haha, it's my avatar but not me	[01:33]
davout	pankkake: i thought it was you as well :-)	[01:33]
*	CheeseDooles (~cheeseDoo@47.54.98.124) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:33]
ThickAsThieves	oh i get ya	[01:33]
*	Riva59 has quit (Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com)	[01:33]
pankkake	I certainly don't mind the media talking about bitcoin, even if bad	[01:33]
ThickAsThieves	pankkakecat trolls even better than the real one	[01:34]
ThickAsThieves	forbes guy coulda at least gave the chan a shoutout sheesh	[01:35]
Apocalyptic	indeed	[01:36]
pankkake	at least he didn't mention that when he joined the discussion was about underage actresses	[01:37]
davout	lol	[01:37]
ThickAsThieves	wait'll he finds out about bitcoin securities	[01:37]
pankkake	they clearly have the power to pump any security or altcoin they want	[01:38]
davout	could've been worse, he could have walked in on mp explaining how he manages his slaves herd	[01:38]
Vexual	revealing sources instantly transmogriphys a senior editing journalist into a lowly blogger	[01:39]
benkay	one wonders if he noticed.	[01:39]
davout	would be funny if someone posted a link to the log in the comments	[01:40]
*	[8] (~8]@223.204.128.160) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:40]
ThickAsThieves	now yer talkin	[01:40]
ThickAsThieves	Full transcript of the author's research here!	[01:40]
*	deadweasel has quit (Disconnected by services)	[01:41]
*	akhil has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)	[01:42]
*	Kushed has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[01:42]
*	Kushed (~Kushedout@adsl-69-227-110-178.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:42]
benkay	someone do that please.	[01:42]
Vexual	i wonder if they'll print it	[01:43]
Vexual	fortune still on nesstands?	[01:43]
pankkake	newstands still on?	[01:43]
*	deadweas1l (~deadwease@gateway/tor-sasl/deadweasel) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00079236 = 20.3637 BTC [+]	[01:44]
benkay	yessss exactly.	[01:45]
*	Duffer1 (~chatzilla@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:45]
Vexual	nelson mandela issue, buy mpoe	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	lol wtf confusion in that guy's head	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	why is it the exchange's problem if the bot puts or doesn't put orders in	[01:46]
pankkake	"The best I could come up with is shorting the GPU manufacturers that bitcoin miners commonly use" in the comments	[01:46]
mircea_popescu	i suppose he missed the part where last month ppl made like 3k btc or w./e	[01:47]
pankkake	and the obligatory tulip bulp mention	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	i guess it's hard being clueless and yet havintg to write about shit.	[01:47]
*	jamespeerless has quit (Quit: jamespeerless)	[01:51]
ThickAsThieves	hey no one pointed out that bitcoin's worth more than Google	[01:53]
ThickAsThieves	(shares)	[01:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02888997 = 0.2889 BTC [+] {2}	[01:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC	[01:56]
*	[\] (~imsaguy@unaffiliated/imsaguy) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	because google isn't backed by anything	[01:58]
Apocalyptic	mircea_popescu, well in your case the exchange is the market maker also	[01:58]
Apocalyptic	but he didn't mention that and seem to have no clue so yeah	[01:59]
Vexual	next time someone should probably wake mircea	[01:59]
benkay	dem market caps	[02:00]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic not really, i mean they're conglomerated but separate.	[02:00]
benkay	well, it's no surprise really - people don't understand even market capitalization.	[02:01]
benkay	Apocalyptic: the market maker not quoting prices is not anywhere near similar to the exchange going down.	[02:02]
Apocalyptic	benkay, I know that	[02:02]
Apocalyptic	I just pointed out that in this specific case MPEX and MPOE are somehow closely related, so it may be relevant to point it out if done correctly	[02:03]
mircea_popescu	moreover, the bot's under no obligation to quote	[02:04]
mircea_popescu	well yeah, that.	[02:04]
benkay	hey we have quotes on options again!	[02:04]
benkay	too late for the unfortunate article :(	[02:05]
Vexual	rushed for the china bank news no doubt	[02:05]
pankkake	well he meant that MPEx was unreliable basically. having the quotes back doesn't change that	[02:06]
mircea_popescu	well... the bot not quoting has little to do with mpex's reliability.	[02:06]
pankkake	then the bot was unreliable!	[02:06]
benkay	bringing some light to that "somehow" is the sort of thing one'd expect a 'journalist' to do.	[02:07]
benkay	you missed the sarcasm in the smiley.	[02:09]
mircea_popescu	well... the bot isn't particularly intended to be reliable.	[02:10]
benkay	senior editor can't distinguish market maker from market operator.	[02:10]
pankkake	senile editor	[02:10]
*	tyrion70 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[02:13]
*	tyrion70 (~Adium@unaffiliated/tyrion70) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:14]
Apocalyptic	pankkake, did you say senile redditor ?	[02:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00079292 = 14.8276 BTC [+]	[02:16]
Vexual	calls are riskier, so he stuck to looking at puts.	[02:17]
pankkake	redditors are babies	[02:17]
*	zboralski has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[02:18]
BingoBoingo	Why didn't he mention his failure to fund the CoinBR account with his credit card? http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/?iid=SF_F_River	[02:19]
Vexual	now that would have been some gritty investigative journalism	[02:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.00299499 = 0.2516 BTC [+]	[02:27]
nubbins`	i thought google was backed by the fact that they know everything about our private lives	[02:28]
*	zboralski (~az@2.124.194.195) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:29]
pankkake	I wonder if there are futures for data storage	[02:29]
pankkake	google could use that	[02:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [7C] 80 @ 0.0077 = 0.616 BTC	[02:30]
benkay	google is fiat currency	[02:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC	[02:32]
*	Kushed is now known as Kushed\|AFK	[02:33]
benkay	future for delivery of 100tb	[02:35]
pankkake	I have about 50tb of raw storage at home! not The Google yet, but nice	[02:39]
Vexual	thats a lot of blank dvds	[02:39]
nubbins`	not bad	[02:40]
Apocalyptic	lot of floppies	[02:40]
pankkake	my worst fear would be magnets	[02:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 19 @ 0.02888997 = 0.5489 BTC [+]	[02:41]
*	jamespeerless (~jamespeer@ip-64-134-42-90.public.wayport.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02888998 = 0.26 BTC [+]	[02:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02899998 = 0.116 BTC [+]	[02:43]
*	mike_c (~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.029 = 0.464 BTC [+]	[02:45]
*	benkay has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[02:46]
nubbins`	cat has gone haywire	[02:47]
nubbins`	fucking with a zig-zag	[02:47]
nubbins`	pankkake you guys must have some cool zig-zags over there hey?	[02:47]
*	zboralski has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[02:50]
pankkake	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zig-Zag_(company) this? didn't know it even existed	[02:51]
ozbot	Zig-Zag (company) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[02:51]
nubbins`	yah	[02:51]
nubbins`	big name in papers!	[02:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00317074 = 0.2854 BTC [-] {6}	[02:51]
nubbins`	https://www.google.ca/search?q=zig-zag+cigarette+papers&tbm=isch	[02:52]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/5/5177946/ouya-now-accepts-bitcoin-payments	[02:52]
ozbot	Ouya now accepts Bitcoin payments (update) \| Polygon	[02:52]
nubbins`	much type. many smoke. wow.	[02:52]
pankkake	so ouya isn't dead yet	[02:52]
nubbins`	it does, however, go to bed at a more reasonable hour	[02:53]
ThickAsThieves	from the comments: "Next, Ouya starts accepting canned goods and other non perishable food items."	[02:53]
nubbins`	heh	[02:53]
nubbins`	i guess that guy's hot sauce won't cut it, then	[02:53]
ThickAsThieves	Bill Clinton doodles: http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3678361/clinton2.jpg	[02:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8690 @ 0.00079274 = 6.8889 BTC [-]	[02:54]
*	saulimus has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[02:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16441 @ 0.00079024 = 12.9923 BTC [-]	[02:55]
*	HaltingState (~HaltingSt@cpe-76-169-228-195.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:56]
*	HaltingState has quit (Changing host)	[02:56]
*	HaltingState (~HaltingSt@unaffiliated/haltingstate) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:56]
ThickAsThieves	http://lightbox.time.com/2013/12/05/the-worlds-deadliest-drug-inside-a-krokodil-cookhouse/#4	[02:56]
ozbot	World’s Deadliest Drug: Photos and Video Inside a Krokodil Cookhouse - LightBox	[02:56]
*	zboralski (~az@2.124.194.195) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:56]
*	zboralski has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[03:01]
deadweas1l	;;ticker	[03:07]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1065.005, Best ask: 1073.98999, Bid-ask spread: 8.98499, Last trade: 1073.98999, 24 hour volume: 57435.83831195, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1062.0459	[03:07]
jamespeerless	seems like bit bet's method of calculating winnings is kind of flawed? it lends itself to horrible odds.. why would someone risk 1BTC to receive like .001 btc.. shouldn't they try to match bets of the same fixed odds and just return leftover amounts?	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	huh ?	[03:13]
mike_c	he wants tradesports	[03:14]
pankkake	perhaps you're looking at a bet that is soon to be ending?	[03:14]
Duffer1	it's not a booky site, just straight up bets	[03:14]
pankkake	oh	[03:14]
BingoBoingo	jamespeerless: You could make a bookie sort of site like that which trades and hedges on BitBet...	[03:15]
jamespeerless	i guess even disregarding the weight factor, if there's only .01BTC available on one option and you want to bet like 3BTC on the other side.. you are risking 3BTC to win the .01	[03:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02959996 = 0.2664 BTC [+]	[03:18]
jamespeerless	i guess you'd be dumb to bet 3btc in that scenario then :P	[03:18]
pankkake	yeah, it's annoying. so I wait for someone to bet, but someone might be doing the same	[03:19]
jamespeerless	yeah wonder how you can fix that case	[03:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.029 = 0.464 BTC [-]	[03:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02309999 = 0.1155 BTC [-] {4}	[03:22]
*	FabianB (~FabianB@unaffiliated/fabianb) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:23]
*	LorenzoMoney is now known as LorenzoMoneyOFC	[03:23]
*	FabianB_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[03:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 166 @ 0.00299483 = 0.4971 BTC [-] {4}	[03:28]
*	chsados has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[03:29]
*	kleeck_ (~kleeck@c-50-151-121-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:30]
*	Kleeck\|HookersNB (~kleeck@c-50-151-121-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:30]
BingoBoingo	jamespeerless: As long as your large BitBet bets are large enough to make the other side of the bet seem appealing, generally I've noticed the money to match generally shows up.	[03:32]
jamespeerless	yeah seems to make sense	[03:32]
*	CheeseDooles has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[03:33]
BingoBoingo	jamespeerless: It also helps when you put the money down earlier in the bet, especially when it is a bet where either side could happen	[03:34]
jamespeerless	yeah gives you better odds and bigger winnings once the other money shows up	[03:34]
BingoBoingo	jamespeerless: Definitely, but you have to watch bitbet for these bets as they occur so money that opposes you can also cone in on favorable weight	[03:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 319 @ 0.00316971 = 1.0111 BTC [-] {2}	[03:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.00315 = 0.2457 BTC [-] {5}	[03:43]
*	djcoin_ (~d@ppp121-44-230-10.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:49]
*	jamespeerless has quit (Quit: jamespeerless)	[03:50]
*	robocoin_ (~rc@unaffiliated/robocoin) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:50]
*	robocoin has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[03:53]
*	LorenzoMoney (~LorenzoMo@unaffiliated/lorenzomoney) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:54]
*	Vp7771_ (~Vp7771@108-162-153-218.cable.teksavvy.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:54]
*	chsados (~chsados@unaffiliated/chsados) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:54]
*	zboralski (~az@2.124.194.195) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:56]
*	CheeseDooles (~cheeseDoo@47.54.98.124) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:57]
*	Vp7771 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[03:57]
*	zboralski has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[04:01]
*	jamespeerless (~jamespeer@c-71-232-48-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33781999 BTC [-]	[04:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23268 @ 0.0007892 = 18.3631 BTC [-] {3}	[04:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+]	[04:05]
*	Menoetius has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[04:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33951502 = 0.679 BTC [-] {2}	[04:06]
*	benkay (~user@c-67-189-93-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:07]
*	jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}	[04:08]
benkay	one can also bet on BOTH SIDES ZOMG	[04:08]
*	javanomad (~james@110.139.197.150) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34000001 = 0.68 BTC [+] {2}	[04:09]
*	jamespeerless has quit (Quit: jamespeerless)	[04:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]	[04:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]	[04:13]
*	Populus (~Populus@unaffiliated/populus) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+]	[04:15]
*	akhil (~akhil@c-69-142-110-85.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:15]
javanomad	;;ticker	[04:16]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1028.15001, Best ask: 1029.99999, Bid-ask spread: 1.84998, Last trade: 1030.0, 24 hour volume: 58609.48103979, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1053.94335	[04:16]
*	jamespeerless (~jamespeer@c-71-232-48-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+]	[04:16]
*	KableKiB_ (~KableKiB@blk-222-238-21.eastlink.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]	[04:17]
*	transfix (~nahz@67-198-110-245.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}	[04:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]	[04:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]	[04:22]
javanomad	;;ud fnord	[04:23]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fnord \| A fnord is a propaganda word conditioned in the masses from a very young age to respond to, usually with fear, anxiety, or uneasiness, but unable t...	[04:23]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: fnord	[04:23]
nubbins`	hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm	[04:23]
nubbins`	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F#ui-tabs-1	[04:23]
nubbins`	"While the bitcoin price is high ($40+) it is a great time to invest in hardware, as we are getting the most out of our coin."	[04:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}	[04:23]
Duffer1	lol...	[04:23]
nubbins`	sounds like everyone involved really did their due diligence	[04:23]
Duffer1	"they" are for sure, the customers... not so much	[04:23]
kakobrekla	STOP SLANDERING BRITNEY NOW	[04:23]
kakobrekla	OH MY GOD POOR BRITNEY	[04:23]
nubbins`	running mascara or it doesn't count	[04:24]
kakobrekla	i dont have a webcam	[04:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]	[04:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]	[04:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}	[04:28]
*	jamespeerless has quit (Quit: jamespeerless)	[04:28]
kakobrekla	i dont see anything good on havelock	[04:28]
kakobrekla	just checked after some long time	[04:28]
benkay	it's almost enough to make a kid turn scammer	[04:28]
kakobrekla	the kid is a idiot scammer	[04:29]
kakobrekla	it was fuckin proven on the forum	[04:29]
kakobrekla	he also sucks cock.	[04:29]
kakobrekla	jurov` nudge nudge	[04:29]
nubbins`	ah, but does he have a webcam?	[04:29]
kakobrekla	not sure	[04:29]
kakobrekla	prolly on his faggotary macbook	[04:30]
nubbins`	call me when there's something to watch ;(	[04:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2}	[04:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1904 @ 0.000105 = 0.1999 BTC [+]	[04:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1498999 BTC [-]	[04:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}	[04:31]
benkay	hey kakobrekla what's the bitcoin forex hedge fund called?	[04:31]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: Are you sure his mouth is even clean enough to suck cocks? With all the the scam in there he might not have room...	[04:32]
*	jborkl has quit ()	[04:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2}	[04:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}	[04:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.05025001 = 0.3518 BTC [-] {2}	[04:34]
*	jamespeerless (~jamespeer@c-71-232-48-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.05025001 = 0.2513 BTC [-] {2}	[04:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [-]	[04:35]
kakobrekla	BingoBoingo you know he did find space for whatever inaba is packing.	[04:35]
kakobrekla	benkay panacea	[04:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [-]	[04:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.05025001 = 0.1508 BTC [-]	[04:36]
benkay	ThickAsThieves: setting up a panacea PT yet?	[04:36]
*	toffoo (~tof@186.205.169.211) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05025 = 0.1005 BTC [-]	[04:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}	[04:37]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: Well Inaba is also full of scam as well. When scam prevents adequate blood flow of course Inaba will only be able to offer Garr a limp and flexible member.	[04:38]
kakobrekla	hehe	[04:38]
javanomad	;;seen unbalanced	[04:38]
gribble	unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 hours, 37 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts	[04:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2}	[04:39]
*	javanomad has quit ()	[04:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]	[04:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]	[04:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}	[04:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}	[04:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}	[04:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}	[04:45]
thestringpuller	;;ticker --markets all	[04:46]
gribble	(ticker [--bid\|--ask\|--last\|--high\|--low\|--avg\|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market \|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)	[04:46]
thestringpuller	;;ticker --market all	[04:46]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD last: 1040.03522, vol: 58949.60700610 \| Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 980.4, vol: 59279.49481105 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 960.0, vol: 58177.97009 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 986.99, vol: 11114.25670693 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 987.37, vol: 356.96774261 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1002.7229, vol: 123607.91300000 \| Volume-weighted last average: 996.977492472	[04:46]
BingoBoingo	.d	[04:46]
ozbot	707408283.05150 \| Next Diff in 879 blocks \| Estimated Change: 22.6255% in 4d 17h 18m 26s	[04:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]	[04:46]
*	CheeseDooles has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[04:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [+]	[04:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}	[04:48]
BingoBoingo	Looking on Ebay apparently DEC Alpha based hardware has been retaining some value http://www.ebay.com/itm/DS15-Alphastation-1GHz-CPU-1GB-Memory-DVD-DA-75CAA-AW-/200771528988?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebeea691c	[04:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3378 BTC [-]	[04:49]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: i suspect it's all for people who want to run OpenGenera.	[04:50]
asciilifeform	as seen here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=186	[04:50]
asciilifeform	got a pile of these alphas right here.	[04:50]
asciilifeform	had to throw some out last year, to make space...	[04:50]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Well, that's what I've been pricing alphastations for...	[04:50]
asciilifeform	my advice, try the pc version 1st	[04:51]
asciilifeform	it's a serious time commitment; not for everyone.	[04:51]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Well As a hobby project I'm thinking of setting up a webserver and running the blog off of it. Basically rewriting the parts of wordpress I like and letting the rest die in a fire, perhaps literally http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/14/a-proper-barrel-fire-a-secure-way-to-dispose-of-data-storage/	[04:54]
benkay	what, lisp in general or the whole symbolics compu-archaeology?	[04:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33799999 BTC [+]	[04:54]
*	elgrecoF- has quit (Excess Flood)	[04:54]
BingoBoingo	benkay: Just writing a blogging web ap for myself that I can confirm isn't running on x86	[04:55]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[04:55]
gribble	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.	[04:55]
BingoBoingo	benkay: But also doing it on beefy enough hardware to just work	[04:55]
asciilifeform	well, genera comes with john c. mallery's cl-http.	[04:55]
asciilifeform	you can work up from there.	[04:55]
thestringpuller	dude what is the actual average price?	[04:55]
thestringpuller	the options don't seem to be priced right	[04:55]
BingoBoingo	thestringpuller: Nothing is priced right	[04:56]
asciilifeform	(btw i have it on fairly reliable rumor that mallery owns symbolics corp. now.)	[04:56]
BingoBoingo	O.o	[04:56]
benkay	sounds like something i'd do if i weren't busy acquring every btc in price	[04:56]
mike_c	you accounting for the 0.1 lot size?	[04:56]
thestringpuller	yea	[04:56]
benkay	trying to, and acquiring	[04:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]	[04:56]
thestringpuller	so right now average price of 0.1 lot is 99.6 right?	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	something like that	[04:57]
thestringpuller	so with a strike price of 110	[04:57]
thestringpuller	for O.USD.P110T	[04:57]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: I've also been thinking about an Alpha+BSD+GNUGuille stack	[04:57]
thestringpuller	(110 - 99.6) / 99.6 no?	[04:57]
thestringpuller	;;calc (110 - 99.6) / 99.6	[04:58]
gribble	0.104417670683	[04:58]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: you can use any old pile of junk, then, doesn't have to be a DEC.	[04:58]
benkay	;;ticker	[04:58]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1046.96724, Best ask: 1052.97, Bid-ask spread: 6.00276, Last trade: 1046.0, 24 hour volume: 58953.24632437, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1052.78918	[04:58]
thestringpuller	am I doing that right mircea_popescu ?	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller seems it's morel ike 1050	[04:58]
*	elgrecoFL (Jezzz@2001:4b10:100:a436:dcad:beff:feef:2) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:58]
thestringpuller	?	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 5/105	[04:58]
gribble	0.047619047619	[04:58]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: if all you want is a web server on a 'i personally set every damn bit' sort of machine, something like this: http://www.kyllikki.org/hardware/wwwpic2/ is a better project.	[04:58]
thestringpuller	how did you come up with that number	[04:58]
thestringpuller	sorry the 0.1 lot is throwing me off	[04:58]
thestringpuller	:(	[04:58]
asciilifeform	necromantically resurrecting ancient iron is not a panacea. the systems of the past had their own security flaws (irix, i'm looking at you)	[04:59]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Thanks. I'm still in the reading, research, and playing with languages stage.	[04:59]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: pick a reasonably capable microcontroller and learn that.	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	im going into the playing with tits stage.	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	later all.	[05:00]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: I used to be fond of Sun Hardware, but a lot of flaws seem to come out of SPARC systems.	[05:00]
asciilifeform	it isn't the SPARC (or Alpha, or whoever) that is to blame, it's unix	[05:01]
asciilifeform	and cancerous complexity in general.	[05:01]
mike_c	it's a bug	[05:01]
BingoBoingo	Seems so really ascii	[05:01]
mike_c	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.P110T	[05:01]
ozbot	O.USD.P110T last @0.00000000	[05:01]
mike_c	price is half there what it is on the homepage	[05:01]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: The problem is that over time bugs become deatures	[05:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}	[05:02]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: Maybe the bot knows something you don't?	[05:02]
asciilifeform	there is something to be said for even the most humble microcontroller. the PIC16F84 (mentioned in the link, also my 1st micro as a kid) has separate address spaces for code and data.	[05:02]
asciilifeform	overflow that.	[05:02]
mike_c	er. homepage says 0.01, put page says 0.05. that's a bug :)	[05:02]
mike_c	derp. i was looking at sell on the put page.	[05:02]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: I'll get to reading.	[05:03]
thestringpuller	hmmm	[05:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]	[05:04]
thestringpuller	http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/weighted_prices.json - average price doesn't seem to be	[05:04]
thestringpuller	1050	[05:04]
thestringpuller	dunno where popescu got that number	[05:04]
thestringpuller	I think the bot is misquoting	[05:04]
thestringpuller	either that or where it's getting it's average isn't available to us	[05:04]
thestringpuller	nanotube: you should really fix the ;;bc,24hprc when you get the chance	[05:04]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[05:04]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: complete instruction set: http://ece.wpi.edu/~wrm/Courses/EE2801/Notes/ee2801c00lec20.pdf	[05:05]
gribble	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.	[05:05]
asciilifeform	and yes, that's all of them.	[05:06]
mike_c	why misquoting? It's willing to buy the put at .0104, and that is basically intrinsic value.	[05:06]
BingoBoingo	My favorite part of IRC is the logs basically compile a reading list.	[05:06]
mike_c	seems right..	[05:06]
asciilifeform	there is really very little more fun you could have as a programmer, than on a machine that you can completely understand.	[05:07]
mike_c	;;calc ((110 - 99.6) / 99.6) * 0.1	[05:08]
gribble	0.0104417670683	[05:08]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[14:48]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading	[14:48]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013	[14:48]
KRS\|gotyawallet	did you hear that researchers have found a way to look outside of a vm, like a vmware virtual machine for instance	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[14:48]
jurov`	that's why it's limited to 15min.. would not be so easy to upkeep otherwise	[14:48]
KRS\|gotyawallet	not sure if they patched it, but it read as a huge problem, because vmware shares memory, you can grab the memory contents of other machines and even the host	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	how's the limit help tho ?	[14:49]
jurov`	so far it was not haacked , only some dos	[14:49]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i wish i had more time, if theres a compiler and a text editor i could start doing funny stuff	[14:49]
*	smidge has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[14:49]
jurov`	anyway, if you can break outside of aws container, i'm interested	[14:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1058 @ 0.00300122 = 3.1753 BTC [+] {4}	[14:49]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i dabble in security	[14:49]
KRS\|gotyawallet	ok	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/lef99jm.jpg << guess the city./	[14:49]
jurov`	i can extend you session if you want	[14:49]
KRS\|gotyawallet	ill hit you up about that	[14:50]
twizt	china	[14:50]
twizt	lol	[14:50]
KRS\|gotyawallet	Somalia?	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	shanghai yes	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	the funny part is, back when the center was in the west, it'd have been london, or ny.	[14:50]
KRS\|gotyawallet	dont tell me thats china smog	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	it is.	[14:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1078 @ 0.00301626 = 3.2515 BTC [+] {6}	[14:50]
KRS\|gotyawallet	those poor bastards are living in an ashtray	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	bwahaha this takes the cake	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	mpoe-pr "o hey there you are. i had a nightmare. you and inaba were taking me to the urologist."	[14:51]
jurov`	KRS\|gotyawallet:basically i think if you add btc/ltc payments, it can make something	[14:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4409 @ 0.00301993 = 13.3149 BTC [+] {6}	[14:51]
jurov`	]currently it's like $10/mo from the ads	[14:51]
jurov`	but of course, stakes get higher from permanent shell access	[14:52]
KRS\|gotyawallet	jurov, I need suid on /bin/sh plz	[14:52]
*	tyrion70 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[14:52]
jurov`	it's mounted nosuid anyway :P	[14:53]
KRS\|gotyawallet	bah	[14:53]
*	twizt has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[14:53]
*	smidge (smidge@p4FDCC728.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[14:54]
KRS\|gotyawallet	just a jail	[14:54]
KRS\|gotyawallet	with a hook to javascript maybe?	[14:54]
jurov`	the anyterm does it	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	stop whining and get your own root :D	[14:55]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i like ez	[14:55]
KRS\|gotyawallet	will social engineering work? :P	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/645/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-5b-before-june/	[14:56]
ozbot	BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 5B before June	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	here we go, get it while it's hawt.	[14:56]
jurov`	to me? dunno, i made even burnside apologize publicly	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	what was that about ?	[14:57]
jurov`	burnside was trolling coinbr on trolltalk	[14:58]
jurov`	some year ago. i just just politely replied and waited for him to repent	[14:58]
jurov`	so much for social engineering	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	a a	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	i recall that, but i think krs meant "gets your pw"	[14:59]
KRS\|gotyawallet	heh	[15:00]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i didnt know you guys knew this stuff	[15:00]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i thought you were all finance propellerheads	[15:00]
mircea_popescu	your irony is showing	[15:00]
jurov`	oh and you can actually get the pw. if you promise to take it somewhere	[15:00]
KRS\|gotyawallet	and finance geniuses i must say	[15:00]
jurov`	maybe even IPO on havelock :DDD	[15:00]
KRS\|gotyawallet	haha how are they doing since panama	[15:01]
jurov`	see the log yest	[15:02]
KRS\|gotyawallet	jurov i might start doing some thinking about this-	[15:02]
KRS\|gotyawallet	im seeing a btc hosting provider offering	[15:02]
thestringpuller	.d	[15:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.003014 = 0.1808 BTC [-]	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	Fifty thousand people signed up online for New Jersey’s gambling sites in the first week. That compares with 741 who signed up for Obamacare during all of October.	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	apparently just-dice is siolid competition for new york.	[15:03]
jurov`	dunno, there are throngs hosting providers.. offering a shell you can do stuff in immediately it's better imo	[15:03]
KRS\|gotyawallet	pay per minute hosting	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	KRS\|gotyawallet there's certainly a market, asciilifeform long wanted a host, i asked namworld for a price like a month ago, still waiting.	[15:03]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[15:03]
gribble	1017.35	[15:03]
KRS\|gotyawallet	wonder whats special about this	[15:03]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i'm going to think about this	[15:04]
jurov`	no messing up with installation, searching the right packages	[15:04]
KRS\|gotyawallet	its just a jail that can be rebooted at any time right	[15:05]
KRS\|gotyawallet	cant mess anything up it comes form an image	[15:05]
jurov`	yes	[15:06]
*	jamespeerless (~jamespeer@23.30.140.182) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[15:06]
*	GordonG3kko has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[15:07]
jurov`	the us contractor just recommended me to use niggas.txt next time :D	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	lol win	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	you've done your part reclaiming that unfortunate word, ThickAsThieves wouild be proud	[15:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00314499 = 0.1447 BTC [+]	[15:10]
KRS\|gotyawallet	damnit you've got me mesmerized with this damn terminal	[15:11]
*	freshcoin has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[15:11]
*	javanomad (~james@110.139.197.150) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[15:11]
*	AusBitBank has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[15:12]
KRS\|gotyawallet	I got it- Run your very own Supernode! Virtual terminal access. 0.03 BTC/hour. http://simpleshell.com	[15:12]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[15:12]
ThickAsThieves	i assume he said NOT to use niggers.txt next time	[15:13]
pankkake	just say you're taking it back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWdVwt2deY4	[15:13]
KRS\|gotyawallet	so who here is near chennai	[15:15]
KRS\|gotyawallet	this term leaks other people's IP addresses..i'm thinking ThickAsThieves recently logged in	[15:15]
KRS\|gotyawallet	or tried simpleshell	[15:15]
KRS\|gotyawallet	?	[15:15]
KRS\|gotyawallet	no	[15:16]
KRS\|gotyawallet	someone from india	[15:16]
jurov`	i was actually thinking to publish the IP via ident	[15:16]
jurov`	cuz i had it running here at home for few years and got banned from freenode :D	[15:16]
jurov`	i just banned irc ports instead	[15:17]
KRS\|gotyawallet	might not want it to be persisent, each time a user comes in this stuff should be sanitized	[15:17]
*	mod6_ is now known as mod6	[15:17]
KRS\|gotyawallet	thanks for including nmap =D	[15:17]
jurov`	yes that's the idea, everything included... but SYNs are rate limited	[15:18]
ThickAsThieves	who's spying on me now?	[15:18]
KRS\|gotyawallet	ThickAsThieves HAH!! You better buy on your call options, time is quickly approaching. I'd like in on that too-	[15:20]
*	ThickAsThieves has quit (Changing host)	[15:20]
*	ThickAsThieves (~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[15:20]
KRS\|gotyawallet	ThickAsThieves HAH!! You better buy on your call options, time is quickly approaching. I'd like in on that too-	[15:20]
ThickAsThieves	?	[15:20]
KRS\|gotyawallet	16:06:35 ThickAsThieves: - You write a 2013 $100,000 call option to your bitcoins, so that I can buy them from you anytime, by just sending you $10 million U.S. Dollars	[15:20]
KRS\|gotyawallet	16:06:35 ThickAsThieves: - If I do not redeem your bitcoins before 31. December 2013, you get my 1 bitcoin as I lose the bet	[15:20]
KRS\|gotyawallet	reading old logs	[15:21]
ThickAsThieves	i never said that	[15:21]
KRS\|gotyawallet	uhh..heh	[15:21]
ThickAsThieves	i'm confused	[15:21]
KRS\|gotyawallet	sure u did	[15:21]
jurov`	KRS, so lame.. hire pankkake instead	[15:21]
KRS\|gotyawallet	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-05-2013&bots=true	[15:21]
ozbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[15:21]
KRS\|gotyawallet	whats up jurov	[15:22]
ThickAsThieves	[08:21] Which hole does it go in?	[15:22]
KRS\|gotyawallet	HAH	[15:23]
jurov`	i was thinking you want to social engineer TAT	[15:23]
KRS\|gotyawallet	naw but i could tho	[15:23]
ThickAsThieves	you cant social engineer me but there are surely enough tidbits in that log to sort out who i am	[15:24]
KRS\|gotyawallet	lmao rly	[15:24]
KRS\|gotyawallet	so..let me get this straight.	[15:24]
ThickAsThieves	have fun reading it all	[15:24]
KRS\|gotyawallet	You can't be social engineered but you sure as hell can be smurfed or hacked.	[15:24]
ThickAsThieves	smurfed?	[15:24]
ThickAsThieves	what's your deal?	[15:25]
KRS\|gotyawallet	oh im sorry i thought you were saying this wasnt you	[15:25]
ThickAsThieves	what wasnt me?	[15:25]
*	KableKiB_ (~KableKiB@24.114.83.122) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[15:25]
KRS\|gotyawallet	you said you never said that but its there in the logs	[15:25]
ThickAsThieves	i qwas quoting someone else ya turd	[15:25]
KRS\|gotyawallet	gotcha	[15:26]
ThickAsThieves	this is what i get for talking to Chaang-Noi I guess	[15:26]
KRS\|gotyawallet	;;seen chaang-noi	[15:27]
gribble	chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 18 hours, 24 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: ch0000 ch0000!	[15:27]
KRS\|gotyawallet	;;seen bowjob	[15:27]
gribble	bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 32 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: lol	[15:27]
KRS\|gotyawallet	simpleshell.com theme is remniscent of my SCO/Unix days	[15:28]
KRS\|gotyawallet	Santa Cruz Operations had a solid future if they didnt let opportunity pass them by.	[15:29]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.220 lol this is going well	[15:32]
pankkake	plz don't hack me	[15:32]
pankkake	I'm in here without any protection	[15:32]
KRS\|gotyawallet	rly	[15:33]
jurov`	pankkake is ~anus@inara.p.engu.in (http://headfucking.net/)	[15:33]
jurov`	mhm	[15:33]
KRS\|gotyawallet	you know you cant dangle something like this in front of me..i'll get lost in here for hours	[15:33]
jurov`	that was exactly the intent	[15:33]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i havent slept all night =/	[15:33]
KRS\|gotyawallet	ill let your imagination let you figure out why	[15:34]
ThickAsThieves	crack?	[15:34]
KRS\|gotyawallet	nice when i look to see who's logged in, I'm not even logged in..	[15:34]
KRS\|gotyawallet	close	[15:34]
ThickAsThieves	baking soda?	[15:34]
KRS\|gotyawallet	nay	[15:34]
KRS\|gotyawallet	thats for crack	[15:35]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i'm white	[15:35]
KRS\|gotyawallet	not a nigga	[15:35]
thestringpuller	#notanigga	[15:38]
thestringpuller	https://twitter.com/search?q=%23notanigga	[15:38]
ThickAsThieves	lol i hadnt seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc6Hp_Zq3rU	[15:38]
ThickAsThieves	ZT goes all out with these things huh	[15:39]
*	Dimsler_ (~dimsler@dhcp-20-aa-4b-fd-a4-ce.cpe.sourcecable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[15:42]
*	CheeseDooles (~cheeseDoo@47.54.98.124) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[15:47]
*	b0n1 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[15:47]
*	Bugpowder (~Bugpowder@pool-72-86-44-69.clppva.fios.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[15:47]
ThickAsThieves	Bugpoweder is that you that bought the white Tesla?	[15:51]
*	b0n1 (~carly@massmann.mhn.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[15:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1300 @ 0.00302 = 3.926 BTC [+]	[15:53]
KRS\|gotyawallet	Well done Jurov	[15:53]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i see you have skillz	[15:54]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i have gathered some notes and know a few things about this	[15:54]
Bugpowder	nope	[15:54]
Bugpowder	I'm kinda annoyed	[15:54]
Bugpowder	about that	[15:54]
*	christosp (~christosp@gateway/tor-sasl/christosp) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[15:55]
KRS\|gotyawallet	the newones are tits	[15:57]
*	lolstate has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)	[15:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00302 = 0.4228 BTC [+]	[16:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00314499 = 0.1195 BTC [+]	[16:06]
KRS\|gotyawallet	http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KWwG6gsy	[16:07]
*	lnostdal (~lnostdal@bl14-230-185.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:08]
Bugpowder	MPEX made CNN.	[16:09]
Bugpowder	http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/	[16:09]
ozbot	How to bet against the bitcoin megabubble - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet	[16:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 455 @ 0.00291699 = 1.3272 BTC [-] {4}	[16:09]
ThickAsThieves	we provided most of that guys research in this channel	[16:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 542 @ 0.00289061 = 1.5667 BTC [-] {4}	[16:10]
Bugpowder	holy fucking SP500	[16:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [7C] 35 @ 0.0077 = 0.2695 BTC	[16:14]
*	Bugpowder has quit (Quit: Bugpowder)	[16:17]
*	jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:19]
*	jborkl has quit (Client Quit)	[16:19]
jurov`	why he does insist on getting long with majority of the btc?	[16:23]
*	ColdHardMetal has quit (Quit: Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.)	[16:24]
*	lolstate (~lolstate@cpc16-broo8-2-0-cust783.14-2.cable.virginm.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00314499 = 0.1352 BTC [+]	[16:29]
*	akhil has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[16:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00291 = 1.455 BTC [+]	[16:30]
*	jon44554 (c7c1755c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.193.117.92) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:32]
*	[\] has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[16:35]
*	javanomad has quit ()	[16:35]
*	lnostdal has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[16:35]
*	toffoo has quit ()	[16:39]
*	BingoBoingo (~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:40]
*	Korbman (HydraIRC@unaffiliated/korbman) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:43]
*	oleganza (~oleganza@pro75-5-88-162-202-99.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:47]
*	dexX7 (dexX7@unaffiliated/dexx7) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:47]
oleganza	I had an idea recently about idiot-proof Bitcoin vault	[16:48]
oleganza	you move money to P2SH multisig scripts and the pubkeys are owned by your friends	[16:49]
davout	oleganza: hello!	[16:49]
oleganza	hi	[16:49]
oleganza	since it's P2SH they don't know where your money is, good for privacy	[16:49]
*	nubbins` (~nubbins`@stjhnf0148w-142134201245.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nl.bellaliant.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:49]
pankkake	coucou	[16:50]
oleganza	also you can have 20 separate transactions, so when you redeem one, you do not expose all your money	[16:50]
oleganza	to be idiot-proof, the wallet app should also allow distributed backup. In case you lose your password, you your own backup.	[16:51]
oleganza	in other words, underlying script (which is hashed into P2SH address) should be backed up somewhere	[16:51]
davout	oleganza: you'd still be able to somewhat link it to txes up the chain, especially if they all look similar in the way they all spend to P2SH	[16:51]
oleganza	mix money before that	[16:52]
nubbins`	salut	[16:52]
*	ColdHardMetal (~IceChat77@59.23.87.240) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:52]
*	fanquake has quit (Quit: fanquake)	[16:53]
oleganza	so: backing up the wallet on some 3rd party service does not solve a problem of forgotten key	[16:54]
oleganza	ultimately, it's your friends who can trust you to give you back the back up	[16:54]
oleganza	so the idea is to send the actual scripts for P2SH to the same friends who own the keys	[16:54]
pankkake	well, you trust that your friends won't betray you all at once	[16:54]
oleganza	yup	[16:54]
oleganza	and you don't need to remember a password. You just go to them	[16:55]
oleganza	but to preserve privacy, they should not know the script contents	[16:55]
oleganza	otherwise they will find out how much money you have	[16:55]
oleganza	so i want to mask some pubkeys from the script	[16:55]
pankkake	can be done with many X-of-Y backup systems too	[16:55]
oleganza	essentially it is x-of-y backup system, but without passwords	[16:56]
oleganza	because i'm trying to solve a problem "I saved $1M 5 years ago"	[16:57]
*	Kushedout (~Kushedout@adsl-69-227-110-178.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[16:58]
oleganza	"and now i don't remember my password"	[16:58]
davout	how is it different from shamir's scheme ?	[16:58]
davout	unlock arbitrary data with N out of M secrets	[16:58]
oleganza	shamir's scheme generates all numbers in one place	[16:59]
davout	ah that's right	[16:59]
oleganza	here i need all pubkeys to be created in different places	[16:59]
oleganza	and never have all keys in one machine	[16:59]
oleganza	ever	[16:59]
oleganza	so i can have strong security promise "even if machine is compromised, it can't do something you don't want"	[16:59]
oleganza	assuming you didn't lost all money before making P2SH transfer	[17:00]
*	dexX7 has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)	[17:00]
oleganza	so you can use your shitty windows all day long	[17:00]
nubbins`	http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/51f637eeeab8ea9153000002-480/barack-obama-may-photos.jpg	[17:01]
davout	so multisig could do the trick, except for the privacy concerns, right?	[17:01]
oleganza	and backup concerns	[17:01]
oleganza	privacy is easy: you don't show people your script	[17:01]
oleganza	they cannnot find your p2sh hash on the chain using their pubkeys	[17:02]
oleganza	but i want to backup the script with the same people	[17:02]
oleganza	but still keep my privacy	[17:02]
oleganza	so i want to give them masked scripts	[17:02]
oleganza	if the script is 3 pubkeys, then in 2-of-3 scheme, 1 pubkey will be masked	[17:04]
oleganza	with ******, that is	[17:04]
oleganza	so you will see "* B C", another guy will see "A * C" and third guy will have "A B *"	[17:04]
oleganza	this will prevent you from finding p2sh transaction on blockchain	[17:05]
oleganza	and still, i can get these portions from m-of-n people and get my original script, even if I lose all backups myself	[17:05]
davout	oleganza: if you manage to find the holy grail of perfect security and perfect usability you're my new god	[17:06]
oleganza	with a proper UI (which is the whole point), my mom can have some shitty password on her wallet and move money like that to 5 of her children. She can't be robbed and her privacy is good enough	[17:06]
nubbins`	at the risk of sounding silly, why not just make a multi-part rar, create some .par files, and distribute those to friends?	[17:06]
*	[\] (~imsaguy@unaffiliated/imsaguy) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[17:07]
nubbins`	ah, nm, don't think i fully read what you guys were discussing	[17:07]
oleganza	multi-part RAR might work as well	[17:07]
oleganza	the big problem is how to send all this stuff from the app	[17:08]
oleganza	so it's easy to use and always works	[17:08]
nubbins`	well, should be trivial to create rars and pars	[17:08]
nubbins`	all that's command-line stuff	[17:08]
nubbins`	so you create a 5-part rar and 4 pars, distribute 1 par to each of 4 friends, then delete 1 or more rars from your collection	[17:09]
nubbins`	delete 1, then any 1 friend can complete it	[17:09]
nubbins`	delete 3, then you need 3 friends	[17:09]
nubbins`	etc	[17:09]
oleganza	sort of	[17:11]
oleganza	regarding usability	[17:11]
oleganza	people can generate keys in their apps like yours	[17:11]
oleganza	and send them by email	[17:11]
oleganza	you can verify that the key is good by checking on phone (to ensure against man in the middle attack)	[17:12]
oleganza	only pubkeys are sent	[17:12]
nubbins`	PARs would be tiny for something like this, a few tens of kb max	[17:12]
oleganza	you add those in your addressbook (built-in the app)	[17:12]
nubbins`	md5 checksums for checking	[17:12]
nubbins`	"hey bro do an md5 on that par i sent you, should start with abc and end with xyz"	[17:13]
oleganza	:)	[17:13]
pankkake	everyone's checking only the start and end	[17:14]
pankkake	this is so vulnerable	[17:14]
nubbins`	well	[17:15]
nubbins`	is it? :(	[17:15]
oleganza	start is as good as end	[17:15]
oleganza	then inside the app you create a multisig transaction and choose people and their keys.	[17:15]
nubbins`	realistically you can rattle the whole thing off	[17:15]
nubbins`	takes ten seconds	[17:15]
pankkake	I think some attacks were demonstrated	[17:15]
nubbins`	ah, would be curious to see that	[17:15]
oleganza	now your wallet must send to all these people partial backup of this transaction.	[17:16]
oleganza	simplest way is to go through my server (me == developer of the app), but the backup needs to be authenticated at least	[17:17]
oleganza	at most, encrypted.	[17:17]
nubbins`	slim odds that someone would MITM your email and modify your attachment maliciously in such a way that the beginning and end 3-4 chars of the md5 hash were the same	[17:17]
oleganza	and the wallet apps are sitting behind awful firewalls and all this shit	[17:17]
oleganza	so i don't want too much p2p headache	[17:17]
oleganza	nubbins`: so the problem ends with establishing authentication pubkey in the first place	[17:19]
oleganza	securely	[17:19]
oleganza	and then signing all interacting with that key	[17:19]
oleganza	e.g. the guy sends me his key and on the phone verifies half of the bytes	[17:20]
oleganza	then it's in my wallet addressbook and app can automatically do the rest through my server, or p2p, or whatever	[17:20]
nubbins`	sorry man, it's too early for me to be wrapping my head around this	[17:20]
nubbins`	if it's a pubkey, why secure it at all?	[17:21]
nubbins`	what's someone gonna do with it?	[17:21]
oleganza	pubkey identifying your friend can be MITMed	[17:23]
asciilifeform	the phuture: paper 'who's who' comes back. for pubkeys. you read it here first...	[17:24]
oleganza	and your p2sh script is a list of pubkeys from all your N friends. This better be kept secret from them so they don't know where's your money	[17:24]
nubbins`	pubkey posters on telephone poles	[17:25]
oleganza	ok, no per-identity pubkey	[17:25]
oleganza	it'll be per-purpose	[17:26]
oleganza	idea: a friend sends you his pubkey	[17:26]
oleganza	you import it under his name in your addressbook	[17:26]
oleganza	addressbook chooses perfectly randomly some internal 4 bytes and asks you to verify them with your friend	[17:27]
*	ystarnaud has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[17:27]
oleganza	fairly good protection against MITM	[17:27]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: As an S.NSA product? Printed by nubbins?	[17:27]
*	ystarnaud (ystarnaud@209.18.59.195) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[17:28]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: perhaps one day.	[17:28]
nubbins`	newsprint is cheap, i could push out a rag every so often for minimal cost	[17:29]
nubbins`	which of you guys lives in MD?	[17:29]
oleganza	NSA may listen every email, but less likely to MITM you specifically	[17:29]
*	rethaw has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[17:30]
*	deadweasel has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[17:30]
*	rethaw (~rethaw@unaffiliated/rethaw) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[17:31]
thestringpuller	;;later tell Bugpowder why are they still calling it a bubble?	[17:31]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[17:31]
nubbins`	HEH	[17:31]
nubbins`	because regret	[17:31]
thestringpuller	On top of all that, this isn't like trading on the New York Stock Exchange. Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared. I was told this happens a lot. As of early Thursday, the exchange still wasn't listing prices. What's more, after running through my math of the trade with a Coinbr broker in a chat room, with the conclusion that basically the trade doesn't make sen	[17:32]
thestringpuller	GOD	[17:32]
thestringpuller	this fuck is so uninformed	[17:32]
thestringpuller	MPEX wasn't shut down	[17:32]
thestringpuller	it never shuts down	[17:32]
thestringpuller	the bot just doesn't quote when bitcoin charts fucks up	[17:32]
thestringpuller	blame bitcoin charts not mpex	[17:32]
thestringpuller	jesus	[17:32]
nubbins`	pretty scathing media appearance	[17:32]
nubbins`	's what you get for talking to reporters ;p	[17:33]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[17:34]
gribble	1016.26	[17:34]
pankkake	well talking to journalists is exactly like talking to cops	[17:34]
pankkake	everything you say may and will be used against you	[17:34]
thestringpuller	that's why niggas don't talk to da popo	[17:35]
thestringpuller	NO SNITCHIN'	[17:35]
pankkake	$avg	[17:35]
mpexbot	pankkake: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	oleganza this sounds like making it more idiot vulnerable.	[17:38]
nubbins`	putting a password on your wallet makes it more idiot vulnerable	[17:39]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` basically if i told the guy "fuck you, you uninformed, intellectually lazy piece of scum" in response to his first email	[17:39]
mircea_popescu	or if i told him "go to assets, figure it out"	[17:39]
mircea_popescu	the result is exactly the same.	[17:39]
*	gesell has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[17:39]
nubbins`	heh	[17:39]
nubbins`	nod, fair enough	[17:39]
mircea_popescu	so basically the moral here is, you can say exactly anything you wish	[17:39]
mircea_popescu	even random gibberish	[17:39]
mircea_popescu	idiots will be idiots and that's that.	[17:39]
jcpham	i think an unencrypted wallet.dat on your normal windows users' computer is like hanging a neon sign in your car asking people to steal it	[17:40]
mircea_popescu	there still exist unencrypted wallets in the wiold ?!@	[17:40]
oleganza	mircea_popescu: what's the problem here? How my mom recovers forgotten password?	[17:40]
*	Evolyn__ (~Evolyn@p4FDCD20C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[17:40]
mircea_popescu	oleganza idiot sends his pw and his backup to the same frined	[17:41]
mircea_popescu	starts forum thread about how you scammed him.	[17:41]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: plaintext wallets are often used to bait honeypots.	[17:41]
oleganza	conjecture: people are not idiots, they simply not experts and real experts did not give them proper tools and methodology yet	[17:41]
asciilifeform	(for collecting '0days')	[17:41]
topace	bitches be bitches	[17:41]
topace	good motto	[17:41]
nubbins`	noobs be noobs	[17:42]
mircea_popescu	oleganza so basically you're not solving an actual problem, you're drawing.	[17:42]
nubbins`	mildly circular, but yes	[17:42]
oleganza	today investing in BTC for a non-CS guru is a major security problem	[17:42]
mircea_popescu	"investing" by unprofessionals is and will remain a major security risk.	[17:42]
mircea_popescu	this is not something that can be changed by technology.	[17:42]
oleganza	ok. I'll go home then	[17:42]
nubbins`	wait, where are you now?	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	lol	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	good one	[17:43]
nubbins`	oleg just stands up and walks out of the office	[17:43]
nubbins`	"peace"	[17:43]
oleganza	i know a lot of mac people who couldn't use git or any UI on top of git until I created Gitbox	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	but are they more secure now ?	[17:43]
oleganza	UI expands possibilities if done right. Otherwise it's always "git is only for experts"	[17:44]
mircea_popescu	cause you're mixing two unrelated topics.	[17:44]
*	Evolyn_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[17:44]
oleganza	in fact, they are. Where git allows you to fuck up things, my UI prevents these issues	[17:44]
oleganza	so if you are not an expert, you don't need to go to ask one for help	[17:44]
mircea_popescu	that may be, but we were discussing idiot proofing the wallet by a share to friends scheme.	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	this may offer w/e ui benefits, i can't discuss that in the abstract.	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	from a security viewpoint, however, it does not idiot proof anything.	[17:45]
nubbins`	http://www.theonion.com/articles/nelson-mandela-becomes-first-politician-to-be-miss,34755/	[17:45]
ozbot	Nelson Mandela Becomes First Politician To Be Missed \| The Onion - America's Finest News Source	[17:45]
nubbins`	heh	[17:45]
KRS\|gotyawallet	what the fuck are these people saying on #bitcoin-pricetalk "its all over"	[17:46]
KRS\|gotyawallet	lmao wtf	[17:46]
nubbins`	“Today we lost not only an international hero and a symbol of the resilient human spirit, but also the very first political figure ever who people actively wish was still alive and affecting world affairs,” said political historian Wallace M. Delaney	[17:46]
KRS\|gotyawallet	did something happen?	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	get out of here, people wished hitler was still alive in 1945	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	why all this pious fraud bs ?	[17:46]
nubbins`	heh	[17:46]
nubbins`	TBF i missed jack layton	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	KRS\|gotyawallet yes, a new chan was created a pparently, named -pricetalk	[17:47]
nubbins`	maybe the only canadian politician i've ever had respect for	[17:47]
nubbins`	(trudeau was before my time)	[17:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32825 = 0.6565 BTC [-] {2}	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	personally, i wish caesar were still alive and affecting world affairs.	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	you know, the one guy who perhaps could claim the first on that score.	[17:48]
nubbins`	hahaha	[17:48]
nubbins`	WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR	[17:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.31851673 = 5.4148 BTC [-] {8}	[17:48]
oleganza	mircea_popescu: can you elaborate what's wrong with m-of-n sharing of keys with friends?	[17:48]
nubbins`	honestly kinda forgot about the onion	[17:48]
nubbins`	http://www.theonion.com/articles/generous-military-sends-800-in-disability-to-man-w,34748/	[17:48]
ozbot	Generous Military Sends $800 In Disability To Man Who Wakes Up Screaming Every Night \| The Onion - A	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	oleganza that the idiot is going to share all the keys with the same friend.	[17:48]
asciilifeform	what people really miss is not the fuhrers, but the times when they were possible. you think anybody misses Brezhnev, the man?	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	your scheme relies on the idiot comprehending m-of-n, which is a higher bar than comprehending "this is your wallet file, keep it safe"	[17:49]
pankkake	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=357465.msg3851336#msg3851336	[17:50]
ozbot	Market Depth / Charting Sites for Assets	[17:50]
nubbins`	the idiot doesn't need to comprehend anything beyond "keep this safe", but if he doesn't comprehend it, it's just as likely to grow wings and fly away	[17:50]
KRS\|gotyawallet	oh great baidu isnt accepting btc anymore	[17:50]
KRS\|gotyawallet	markets tanking	[17:50]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[17:50]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 994.5, Best ask: 1000.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.50000, Last trade: 994.5, 24 hour volume: 22039.35832478, 24 hour low: 994.5, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 1071.32021	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform perhaps difficult to distinguish the man (who makes his time) from the time.	[17:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6116 @ 0.00078466 = 4.799 BTC [+]	[17:50]
nubbins`	asciilifeform: trudeau is as close as canada got to a fuhrer	[17:50]
pankkake	at least this gives bitcoin-central some volume	[17:51]
oleganza	mircea_popescu: the minimum assumption is that user is not idiot to share his password. Then the UI will guide hi through the process.	[17:51]
oleganza	*guide him	[17:52]
Apocalyptic	oleganza, are you talking about that bitrated site ?	[17:52]
oleganza	no	[17:52]
Apocalyptic	it's so wrong in so many ways	[17:52]
asciilifeform	giving lusers secret-sharing is a perfect recipe for 'damn i lost my wallet, btx sux'	[17:52]
asciilifeform	*c	[17:52]
pankkake	UIs cannot be enough, users need to understand what they are doing or they will fail as always	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	oleganza understand, i;m not saying this is bad. i am merely saying that "idiot proofing" is not its selling point.	[17:52]
oleganza	i'm talking about my idea of a wallet app that allows to keep your stash safe even if you or someone's computer is badly compromised later	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	yes, but you are thinking about it in a very narrow manner.	[17:53]
nubbins`	http://hothousecleaners.com/	[17:53]
ozbot	HotHouse Cleaners - Topless cleaners, lingerie cleaners, escort directory	[17:53]
nubbins`	^ now accepting btc	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	consider the problem in its proper generality, as the byzantine problem.	[17:53]
oleganza	okay, i'll rephrase. It's a convenient way to strongly protect your stash even against yourself (getting a malware, forgetting password etc.)	[17:53]
KRS\|gotyawallet	oh nice i'll drop some down on that	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	what can you do once how many guys go rogue ?	[17:53]
asciilifeform	luser gives shares to five friends, needs 3. one loses his laptop on the train, two have their disk formatted by crapware. result: no wallet.	[17:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3109 = 1.2436 BTC [-]	[17:53]
nubbins`	KRS\|gotyawallet: my understanding is that you're not allowed to touch them	[17:53]
nubbins`	so really you're just paying a bunch of strippers to do a shitty job of cleaning your house.	[17:53]
nubbins`	neckbeards	[17:54]
nubbins`	and wizards	[17:54]
nubbins`	is the point	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` you have to understand when they say no it's maybe.	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	the no being there mostly for the benefit of the police.	[17:54]
nubbins`	and the extreme wizards	[17:54]
oleganza	mircea_popescu: practically speaking, if you are being nice to people, they won't have huge incentive to figure out with whom you stored the keys and how much do you have	[17:55]
oleganza	mircea_popescu: if you made everyone hate you, it's your problem	[17:55]
nubbins`	i'm sure if i flexed my muscular quads at them, they'd be mopping up pussy juice out of the rug for hours	[17:55]
oleganza	after all, they themselves have some stash	[17:55]
nubbins`	Diablo-D3: http://mmoqq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/king-nerd.jpg	[17:55]
oleganza	and want to store it shared too with you and their friends	[17:55]
*	jon44554 has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[17:55]
oleganza	so it's mutual service	[17:55]
oleganza	and everyone wants to be nice to each other so they can redeem savings	[17:56]
nubbins`	Diablo-D3: i'm barely more than half that weight ;)	[17:56]
*	daybyter (~andreas@88-134-94-9-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[17:56]
nubbins`	yeah, more or less	[17:57]
nubbins`	i'm less intimidating than i was when i had a beard tho ;(	[17:57]
*	Populus has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[17:57]
pankkake	well if I wanted to pay for someone to clean my house, I'd rather have been done by a half naked lady	[17:59]
*	Populus (~Populus@h177n5-smy-d3.ias.bredband.telia.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[17:59]
*	Populus has quit (Changing host)	[17:59]
*	Populus (~Populus@unaffiliated/populus) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[17:59]
nubbins`	some naked slut shows up	[17:59]
nubbins`	"ew lol this place is disgusting"	[17:59]
*	kleeck__ is now known as kleeck\|meeting	[17:59]
nubbins`	"i can't believe this"	[18:00]
nubbins`	"i'm cold"	[18:00]
nubbins`	etc	[18:00]
nubbins`	then your boner dies	[18:00]
nubbins`	and you sit in a chair, emasculated, wacthing a bunch of naked women lel at your life	[18:00]
nubbins`	sounds great	[18:00]
nubbins`	i mean, if you even start to masturbate, they'll leave	[18:00]
nubbins`	you know it	[18:00]
pankkake	speaking from experience?	[18:01]
nubbins`	nah	[18:01]
nubbins`	that's just how i imagine it'd go	[18:01]
pankkake	the sad truth is that I like to clean, with few exceptions	[18:01]
nubbins`	i should hire you for the studio	[18:01]
nubbins`	keeping that place clean is a full-time job	[18:02]
*	zoinky (~Adium@unaffiliated/zoinky) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:02]
pankkake	I once proposed to do it for free for anyone having a fancy vacuum cleaner	[18:02]
nubbins`	haha	[18:02]
pankkake	(it has to be transparent at least)	[18:02]
nubbins`	dyson!	[18:02]
nubbins`	we barely have need for a vacuum	[18:02]
nubbins`	one rug	[18:02]
asciilifeform	transparent vacuum cleaners... when do we get the: transparent toilet?	[18:02]
nubbins`	all else is tile or softwood	[18:02]
nubbins`	if you were wondering, softwood is not appropriate for floors	[18:03]
pankkake	I have a floating floor that is very easy to clean, I barely use the vacuum cleaner anymore	[18:05]
pankkake	laminate flooring would be the correct term I think	[18:06]
nubbins`	ah yes	[18:06]
nubbins`	laminate is great	[18:06]
nubbins`	imagine explaining to someone 100 years ago that in the future, floors will be made of plastic with photographs of wood on top	[18:07]
nubbins`	the only down side is that if it gets wet, it tends to swell at the seams	[18:08]
pankkake	there are some ugly/ridiculous ones. mine is grey so you it's mostly a nice pattern, not faking wood	[18:08]
*	b0n1 has quit (Read error: No route to host)	[18:08]
pankkake	yes; the air is quite humid here too	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	oleganza "if you are being nice to people" that's the silliest thing i heard all day	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	people's incentive to steal from you is how much you got, not how nice you are.	[18:09]
*	mjoiii (~Android@199.119.232.226) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:09]
nubbins`	in fact, nicer people get taken advantage of more often	[18:10]
oleganza	if you can't rely on yourself to keep your passwords safe and computers secure, then you can only rely on other	[18:10]
oleganza	s	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform afaik teh japanese have it	[18:11]
oleganza	you and me are not the same kind of people as our parents, for instance.	[18:11]
nubbins`	one great thing i saw in japan was sinks in the toilets	[18:11]
nubbins`	so you wash your hands with the water that then fills the tank	[18:11]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: those are said to be standard in american prisons.	[18:12]
nubbins`	http://peswiki.com/images/0/07/Sinkpositive_context_350.jpg	[18:12]
nubbins`	great inventions	[18:12]
pankkake	oh, indeed	[18:12]
pankkake	doesn't take extra space	[18:12]
nubbins`	nor does it waste water	[18:12]
*	kleeck\|meeting is now known as Kleeck__	[18:12]
pankkake	I need that for mine, no sink in it	[18:12]
nubbins`	no sink in your bathroom :0	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	this reminds me of butters.	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` he's french, he has a bidet	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	that should be enough for everyone.	[18:13]
nubbins`	heh	[18:13]
nubbins`	wash your hands while wiping your ass	[18:13]
pankkake	I wish I had a bidet! that really should be standard	[18:13]
nubbins`	first time i used a bidet was in a sink-toilet	[18:13]
nubbins`	couldn't figure out how to dry my asshole because it was all in japanese	[18:13]
nubbins`	ended up having to use a wad of paper :(	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	pankkake ha! my girls do and you don't ?	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	france fails	[18:14]
jurov`	oleganza, you can look at mycelium. it does export the wallet as PDF + password	[18:15]
KRS\|gotyawallet	bidets are great, they are also water fountains	[18:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1990 @ 0.00301152 = 5.9929 BTC [+] {5}	[18:16]
jurov`	you can give the printed PDF to everyone and parts of password to each	[18:16]
jurov`	however, everyone knows the public address then.. but it's a start	[18:16]
pankkake	mircea_popescu: bidets are more common in older houses, but not really in appartments or new contructions	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	i recall back in 2012 this site which gave you printed sheets m-of-n, as manty as you wanted	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	usually needing 3 to spend and 2 to check balance	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	pankkake that just shows how the french youth has decayed.	[18:17]
oleganza	jurov`: i started by discussing how to do that split sharing but so that sensitive info is never in the same computer at once	[18:17]
pankkake	yes :(	[18:17]
pankkake	they don't understand my love for bidets	[18:17]
nubbins`	krs lel	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	we should make a bitbet bidet.	[18:17]
KRS\|gotyawallet	bidet faucet?	[18:18]
nubbins`	bitdet	[18:18]
pankkake	a bébête	[18:18]
nubbins`	0.001 btc per flush	[18:18]
nubbins`	er actually	[18:18]
nubbins`	that won't work	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	l;ol	[18:18]
nubbins`	0.001 btc to raise the lid	[18:18]
asciilifeform	oleganza: if you're serious about the 'never', you need different crypto right off the bat. 'millionaires protocol', etc.	[18:18]
pankkake	that would quickly prove the tragedy of commons	[18:18]
nubbins`	in korea, they have public toilets on the streets in some areas	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	he has a point there.	[18:18]
nubbins`	you pay money to keep the door closed	[18:18]
nubbins`	timer runs out, door swings open	[18:19]
nubbins`	lelelel	[18:19]
pankkake	genius	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	haha cool	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	showers too ?	[18:19]
oleganza	asciilifeform: quote?	[18:19]
nubbins`	nah, no sidewalk showers	[18:19]
oleganza	ah	[18:19]
oleganza	i see	[18:19]
nubbins`	bath houses tho	[18:19]
asciilifeform	oleganza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yao's_Millionaires'_Problem	[18:20]
oleganza	asciilifeform: i mean, in m-of-n transaction, all private keys are on different computers	[18:20]
asciilifeform	and variations on the theme	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	as far as i understand, m-of-n creates the m and n on the same m,achine, then distributes them	[18:20]
nubbins`	y'know, wikipedia articles on math are generally really good	[18:20]
oleganza	asciilifeform: so when you redeem stuff, you ask people to sign a particular piece of data instead of revealing their private keys	[18:20]
asciilifeform	there is a difference between 'prococol' security and actual security.	[18:21]
asciilifeform	*protocol	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ << soon to be top bet on bitbet	[18:21]
*	iamnot_ (~iamnot_@c-98-242-90-82.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:21]
ozbot	BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	get your alms in	[18:21]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: it seems like he was talking about the btc feature that sometimes goes by that name, rather than Shamir's scheme.	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	o o	[18:22]
pankkake	http://www.wici-concept.com/shop/175-thickbox_default/douchette-hygiene-wc.jpg o/	[18:22]
nubbins`	alms for the poor	[18:22]
ThickAsThieves	116btc on Yes	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	a so more like a deterministic wallet m-of-n combo	[18:22]
ThickAsThieves	;;nethash	[18:22]
gribble	6400549.04237	[18:22]
nubbins`	pankkake: is that a dual-flush button i see on top there?!	[18:22]
ThickAsThieves	;;bcstats	[18:22]
gribble	Current Blocks: 273424 \| Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 \| Next Difficulty In: 751 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 21 hours, 52 minutes, and 30 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 888657408.965 \| Estimated Percent Change: 25.62157	[18:22]
nubbins`	http://www.rensup.com/blog/assets/content/denton_dual_flush.jpg	[18:23]
*	Kushed (~Kushedout@adsl-69-227-110-178.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:24]
pankkake	perhaps. I have one but I don't think it works properly	[18:24]
KRS\|gotyawallet	That sure is a nice toilet.	[18:24]
nubbins`	efficient too	[18:24]
pankkake	"I'm a CEO, not a chip designer. That's why I took advice from a professor."	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	being a ceo is a thing now ?	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	"i'm a shopper, not a mathematician. this is why i can't use cash"	[18:26]
taub	btcchina api breaking down ugh	[18:27]
nubbins`	ah lel	[18:27]
KRS\|gotyawallet	mircea_popescu: pic gallery is gone..no dtng?	[18:27]
pankkake	actually, it's why I don't use cash, too annoying to count bills and coins	[18:27]
nubbins`	cash is king	[18:27]
nubbins`	nothing worse than some asshole in front of you in line buying a cookie with debit	[18:27]
*	Kushedout has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[18:28]
*	ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@173.180.1.169) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	KRS\|gotyawallet yeah i pulled the plug on that thing	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	pankkake why use coins ?	[18:30]
pankkake	how do you not use coins?	[18:30]
nubbins`	i rarely spend coins	[18:30]
nubbins`	result being that i have a half pound of change in my pocket by the end of each day	[18:30]
nubbins`	but then those all go into a jar	[18:31]
nubbins`	and before you know it, you have thousands of dollars of change	[18:31]
taub	crash n burn	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	i usually leave the metal hange behind	[18:32]
pankkake	we can't be all filthy rich	[18:33]
pankkake	though I usually discard or give away the red coins	[18:33]
jurov`	i'm bit nervous when i don't have any coins	[18:34]
pankkake	(<=5cents for you non eurofags)	[18:34]
*	MiningBuddy- is now known as MiningBuddy	[18:34]
*	MiningBuddy has quit (Changing host)	[18:34]
*	MiningBuddy (~msn@unaffiliated/miningbuddy) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:34]
nubbins`	heh	[18:34]
nubbins`	canada abandoned red coins earlier this year	[18:34]
jurov`	cuz usually then i need them to some vending machine	[18:34]
nubbins`	now you round to the 5 when paying cash	[18:34]
jurov`	but no use for the red ones, yeah	[18:34]
pankkake	that's actually smart. I've said many times I'd do it even if rounded up	[18:34]
nubbins`	well at this point it costs more than 1 cent to make a penny	[18:35]
pankkake	machines often don't want them anyway	[18:35]
taub	will you panic if we hit 450 today?	[18:35]
nubbins`	panic is for noobs	[18:35]
pankkake	I'll panic buy	[18:35]
nubbins`	yeah	[18:35]
nubbins`	i'd panic buy too	[18:35]
nubbins`	disregard previous statement	[18:35]
taub	that china ruling seems serious	[18:35]
taub	china has been the fuel of this run-up	[18:35]
taub	now new buyers aren't gonna come as fast	[18:35]
nubbins`	taub, as if 1.2 billion people could affect the price of btc ;0	[18:36]
taub	btcchina now probably pretty mad they didn't charge fees all this time	[18:36]
jurov`	i can wait. 2 days sold 0.4B for 320 euro, won't starve for some time.	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	pankkake but we ARE all filthy rich	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	taub i think you're misreading it.	[18:37]
nubbins`	heh	[18:38]
pankkake	not really	[18:38]
pankkake	I'm filthy alright, missing the second part yet	[18:38]
nubbins`	you've gotta be at least grubby rich	[18:38]
nubbins`	or unclean rich	[18:38]
bloctoc	taub Liberty Reserve shut down has been the fuel for this run up.	[18:40]
nubbins`	;;ticker --market all	[18:40]
jurov`	taaki rich	[18:40]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD last: 926.0, vol: 28357.88536441 \| Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 872.0, vol: 28956.75818595 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 898.0, vol: 25743.23023 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 880.0, vol: 8744.8563949 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 857.77, vol: 296.84205889 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 925.572, vol: 56901.44100000 \| Volume-weighted last average: 907.668942554	[18:40]
pankkake	:D	[18:40]
nubbins`	http://www.brainlesstales.com/images/misc/bitcoin-roller-coaster.gif	[18:40]
*	bloctoc has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)	[18:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1498899 = 0.2998 BTC [+]	[18:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 146 @ 0.00291 = 0.4249 BTC [-]	[18:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00289717 = 2.8972 BTC [-] {3}	[18:48]
*	DefectiveNu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[18:50]
*	Guest61160 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[18:51]
*	SwapperMall (~chatzilla@67-42-141-227.albq.qwest.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:52]
*	SwapperMall is now known as Guest47482	[18:52]
*	DefectiveNu (~Henry@pool-173-54-1-90.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:52]
*	hammurabi (~muaddib@93.179.239.13) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:00]
*	benkay (~user@c-67-189-93-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:01]
*	KableKiB_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[19:07]
*	CheckDavid has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[19:09]
ThickAsThieves	i just had it up	[19:10]
ThickAsThieves	works fine for me	[19:11]
*	chsados-work (~chsados-w@173-14-21-145-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:11]
ThickAsThieves	sux for you	[19:11]
TomServo	mircea_popescu: Did Garzik steal your idea? http://www.coindesk.com/core-developer-bitcoin-node-space/	[19:15]
TomServo	I recall you mentioning something similiar	[19:15]
nubbins`	fun	[19:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3109 BTC [-]	[19:17]
*	CheckDavid (~david@unaffiliated/checkdavid) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1149 @ 0.00282543 = 3.2464 BTC [-] {13}	[19:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.30700131 = 1.228 BTC [-] {3}	[19:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.00312002 = 0.2028 BTC [-] {2}	[19:19]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[19:19]
gribble	986.33	[19:19]
*	daybyter has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)	[19:23]
thestringpuller	;;bids 900	[19:25]
gribble	There are currently 3391.5773 bitcoins demanded at or over 900.0 USD, worth 3087597.27043 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 86.7293 seconds	[19:25]
thestringpuller	;;asks 990	[19:25]
gribble	There are currently 1412.6887 bitcoins offered at or under 990.0 USD, worth 1360727.09659 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 99.4999 seconds	[19:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 633 @ 0.0031008 = 1.9628 BTC [-] {11}	[19:27]
asciilifeform	TomServo: afaik, 'cubesats' go in low orbit and typically croak after a year or two.	[19:27]
asciilifeform	they're largely a gimmick ('street cred' for engineering students.)	[19:28]
thestringpuller	fucking reversals always miss em	[19:28]
*	Populus has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[19:28]
thestringpuller	asciilifeform: whats a good long term satrellite solution?	[19:29]
asciilifeform	not much room on a breadbox for either serious antennae or photovoltaics, either.	[19:29]
asciilifeform	thestringpuller: 'long term', in the satellite business, traditionally means a decade or so.	[19:29]
asciilifeform	if you really want something to hang around forever (or until the hardware bakes) - Lagrange points.	[19:31]
asciilifeform	but that will cost you.	[19:32]
asciilifeform	might be cheaper to buy a country.	[19:32]
*	ericmuyser has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[19:33]
pankkake	must be why satoshi hasn't spent his coins yet, he's waiting to buy a country	[19:34]
*	ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@173.180.1.169) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:34]
*	gesell (~user@p200300454E1392010D52704108822C83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.25 BTC	[19:35]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[19:37]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 965.0, Best ask: 968.98999, Bid-ask spread: 3.98999, Last trade: 955.0, 24 hour volume: 33985.40703212, 24 hour low: 916.1, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 1025.72874	[19:37]
*	ericmuyser has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)	[19:38]
kakobrekla	http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/111232.jpg	[19:43]
*	jamespeerless has quit (Quit: jamespeerless)	[19:47]
*	rpetrich has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)	[19:50]
*	farfi (~farfi@109-186-100-147.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:51]
*	BingoBoingo has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[19:56]
*	BingoBoingo (~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:57]
*	Rulother__ (~Rulother@72.16.217.169) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:02]
*	Rulother has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[20:02]
*	BingoBoingo has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[20:05]
*	Rulother__ is now known as Rulother	[20:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.055 = 0.11 BTC [+]	[20:07]
*	Kushed has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[20:09]
*	Kushed (~Kushedout@adsl-69-227-110-178.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	TomServo for the past year or so he's been running around the margins trying to somehow become cool	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	anyway, io can't read that javascriptfest.	[20:11]
*	transfix has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)	[20:12]
pankkake	coindesk? worksforme with noscript	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	all io get is a blakc screen	[20:13]
*	jcpham has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[20:14]
*	rpetrich (sid280@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fdlwfcqklihqmsvs) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:14]
*	oleganza has quit (Quit: oleganza)	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform depends a lot of what you put on the cube too	[20:18]
*	oleganza (~oleganza@pro75-5-88-162-202-99.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	but yes outer space is a harsh mistress	[20:19]
*	farfi (~farfi@109-186-100-147.bb.netvision.net.il) has left #bitcoin-assets	[20:21]
asciilifeform	optimistic value for photovoltaic is ~100 W / m^2	[20:21]
asciilifeform	let's say the cube swings open, giving 40 cm.^2 facing the sun (magically rotates without fuel...)	[20:22]
*	jcpham (~jcpham@46.19.139.66) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:22]
*	jcpham is now known as Guest65028	[20:23]
asciilifeform	now you've got 400 mW...	[20:23]
*	Guest65028 has quit (Changing host)	[20:24]
*	Guest65028 (~jcpham@unaffiliated/jcpham) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:24]
mircea_popescu	what's the cube edge, 10cm ?	[20:24]
asciilifeform	according to the link, that.	[20:24]
*	lewicki (~lewicki@unaffiliated/lewicki) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:24]
*	transfix (~nahz@67-198-110-245.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:24]
mircea_popescu	so then 400cm	[20:24]
asciilifeform	damn, left out a 0	[20:25]
mircea_popescu	that's about where it is, entry level sattelite is about 10cmc and about 1 watt.	[20:25]
asciilifeform	ok 4W.	[20:25]
asciilifeform	at full sunlight, ideal position...	[20:26]
asciilifeform	might be able to get more if you charge a cap and transmit in bursts.	[20:26]
*	benkay has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[20:26]
*	Guest65028 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[20:27]
asciilifeform	and this assumes that you don't need any power to run the electronics on board	[20:27]
asciilifeform	which is 'spherical horse' territory.	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	some of the more interesting work in mechanical engineering is resolving the "optimal exposure" problem	[20:28]
asciilifeform	i'd be surprised if you can run any kind of btc node (in reasonably real time) on 4w.	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	i've seen a buncha stuff trying to emulate fern leaves etc	[20:28]
asciilifeform	consider a mirrored (on the inside) sphere with controllable slats.	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	that too	[20:29]
asciilifeform	slats open on the sunlit side	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	but by now you're larger than 10cm	[20:29]
asciilifeform	correct.	[20:30]
asciilifeform	would have to be inflatable (mylar) or somesuch.	[20:30]
mircea_popescu	inflatable is a pain	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	you lose gas	[20:31]
asciilifeform	one could probably rig something clever with nitinol wire	[20:31]
asciilifeform	(use the sun itself for the heat source)	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	bunch of actuators	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	it's a seriously fascinating field, this, "given a 10cm cube, construct the best photovoltaic arrangement"	[20:32]
asciilifeform	considerably longer life if you avoid rotating joints	[20:32]
asciilifeform	hence nitinol	[20:32]
asciilifeform	(ever think about bearings/oil in vacuum)	[20:32]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i want to test my wallet can someone send me 1 btc and I will send it back	[20:33]
asciilifeform	with a strict cube, use swing panels; five facing the sun (swing open in response to voltage readings from each, with max being the center of the clover) and one arse end with no panel, for the downlink.	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	but if your panels are twin faced	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	you can significantly improve that result by tgurning them	[20:35]
asciilifeform	it is also worth considering why exactly one wants a btc node in orbit.	[20:36]
asciilifeform	in any scenario where said node is worthwhile, it becomes a central point of failure unlike any other.	[20:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12145 @ 0.00078466 = 9.5297 BTC [+]	[20:39]
asciilifeform	if you just want to relay bits in one direction to some remote jungle, there are commercial sats with no authentication (!)	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	nobody wants a btc node in orbit, until it becomes a matter of land based isp's being assholes.	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	when that happens point ot point internet via wifi will be the workhorse and the mostly useless blockchain satellite will be the extended middle finger.	[20:41]
asciilifeform	consider the life of warez. are there bittorrent nodes in orbit? protocol obfuscation is nearly always the cheaper and more practical pill.	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[20:42]
*	kleeck_ has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[20:43]
*	twizt (45749f31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.116.159.49) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:43]
*	nubbins` has quit (Quit: nubbins`)	[20:43]
pankkake	there were talk about wifi drones	[20:44]
pankkake	(for bittorrent)	[20:44]
asciilifeform	for the cost of one microsat, one could bring out a thousand balloons that bob about in the atmosphere for years.	[20:44]
KRS\|gotyawallet	dat dump	[20:45]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[20:45]
*	jcpham_ (~jcpham@46.19.139.66) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:45]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 892.0, Best ask: 894.9, Bid-ask spread: 2.90000, Last trade: 892.0, 24 hour volume: 38738.52916725, 24 hour low: 890.0, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 1009.31176	[20:45]
asciilifeform	or, for the truly exotic-minded, sonobuoys	[20:45]
pankkake	;;goxlag	[20:45]
gribble	MtGox lag is 101249.827561 seconds. During this time, light travels 202.903520783 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).	[20:45]
KRS\|gotyawallet	;;bids 888	[20:46]
gribble	There are currently 1000.6339 bitcoins demanded at or over 888.0 USD, worth 895306.123044 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.2233 seconds	[20:46]
KRS\|gotyawallet	;;bids 889	[20:46]
gribble	There are currently 991.26164 bitcoins demanded at or over 889.0 USD, worth 886980.528795 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 5.3074 seconds	[20:46]
KRS\|gotyawallet	;;bids 889	[20:46]
gribble	There are currently 991.26164 bitcoins demanded at or over 889.0 USD, worth 886980.528795 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 11.9352 seconds	[20:46]
*	jcpham_ has quit (Changing host)	[20:46]
*	jcpham_ (~jcpham@unaffiliated/jcpham) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:46]
KRS\|gotyawallet	thats not right..lagged as fuck	[20:46]
KRS\|gotyawallet	$881	[20:46]
*	jcpham_ is now known as jcpham	[20:46]
pankkake	they must be hosted on a remote satellite	[20:46]
KRS\|gotyawallet	wow how bad is it if gox is running out of buyers	[20:47]
*	akhil (~akhil@216.169.244.1) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:48]
ThickAsThieves	like goxers can get cash out anyway	[20:48]
Apocalyptic	^^	[20:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14989 BTC [+]	[20:51]
ThickAsThieves	after this China ban i wonder if Gox will have even more trouble getting fiat to people	[20:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 8 @ 0.04845 = 0.3876 BTC [-] {3}	[20:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1239 @ 0.00009989 = 0.1238 BTC [+] {2}	[20:53]
*	Menoetius (~hidden@unaffiliated/menoetius) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:54]
*	Diablo-D3 has quit (Quit: do coders dream of sheep()?)	[20:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.09155011 = 0.1831 BTC [-] {2}	[20:54]
*	Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-64-222-229-141.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:54]
*	tbcoin (~tbcoin@81.61.86.183.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:55]
ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[20:55]
gribble	MtGox lag is 532.686634 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.06749805028 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).	[20:55]
*	Jere_Jones (jere@showanalyzer.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:55]
*	Jere_Jones has quit (Changing host)	[20:55]
*	Jere_Jones (jere@unaffiliated/jere-jones) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:55]
*	Bugpowder (cef100f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.241.0.249) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:57]
*	nubbins` (~nubbins`@stjhnf0148w-142134201245.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nl.bellaliant.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:57]
Bugpowder	I don't know if you guys have noticed, but the reddit sentiment index is trending down	[20:57]
KRS\|gotyawallet	;;bids 828	[20:57]
gribble	There are currently 3268.1678 bitcoins demanded at or over 828.0 USD, worth 2809609.80831 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.1444 seconds	[20:57]
Bugpowder	;;bids 500	[20:58]
gribble	There are currently 18180.459 bitcoins demanded at or over 500.0 USD, worth 12742561.8573 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 16.5359 seconds	[20:58]
KRS\|gotyawallet	thats aint right	[20:58]
pankkake	;;market sell 500	[20:58]
gribble	A market order to sell 500 bitcoins right now would net 436894.5383 USD and would take the last price down to 872.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 873.7891 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 41.6458 seconds	[20:58]
Bugpowder	there is a 4k+ sell order going off right now on trading.i286	[20:59]
Bugpowder	will the gox circuitbreakers trip again?	[21:00]
*	Kleeck__ has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[21:00]
Bugpowder	;;goxlag	[21:00]
gribble	MtGox lag is 860.583437 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.72459957218 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).	[21:00]
*	Evolyn__ is now known as Evolyn	[21:00]
Bugpowder	>5k	[21:01]
*	Transisto (~TransistO@modemcable093.28-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:02]
Bugpowder	yeah looks like the circuit breaker tripped and its just cycling the same sell order over again and again.	[21:03]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[21:03]
ThickAsThieves	gox gets sued to oblivion	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	kik	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	"gox is trading on fake btc. gox proves this every year."	[21:04]
Bugpowder	why not fix the problem after it happend last week?	[21:04]
ThickAsThieves	hilarious	[21:05]
KRS\|gotyawallet	to be fair didnt they receive significant attacks at those times	[21:05]
mod6	thestringpuller: this fuck is so uninformed << wasn't it the stephengandel guy who stopped in here a few days ago who wrote that article?	[21:06]
ThickAsThieves	to be fair, it is sleepy time in China	[21:06]
ThickAsThieves	they need their rest	[21:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11279999 BTC [+]	[21:07]
KRS\|gotyawallet	Its rice until 03Q14 for them..no BEEF. NO POHK. NO SHREEMP!	[21:09]
TomServo	mod6: I believe so.	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	mod6 prolly ya	[21:11]
*	kleeck has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[21:11]
*	Transisto is now known as transito	[21:13]
*	CheeseDooles has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[21:15]
*	CheeseDooles (~cheeseDoo@out-pq-182.wireless.telus.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:15]
ThickAsThieves	it's still looping	[21:17]
KRS\|gotyawallet	f'n wow	[21:18]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i'd like to get my account in there somehow [balance] = [balance]++	[21:18]
ThickAsThieves	mp begins his next blog post	[21:19]
ThickAsThieves	This is why we can't have nice things	[21:19]
*	BingoBoingo (~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:19]
*	GordonG3kko (~GordonG3k@gateway/tor-sasl/gordong3kko) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:22]
ThickAsThieves	http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mtgox/btcusd Gox Art	[21:23]
ozbot	Mt.Gox BTC/USD Charts - BitcoinWisdom	[21:23]
KRS\|gotyawallet	this is lel	[21:24]
ThickAsThieves	aww on reload the pattern goes away	[21:24]
dub	idk why its such a surprise every time gox does this	[21:25]
*	oleganza has quit (Quit: oleganza)	[21:26]
ThickAsThieves	here's the art: http://i.imgur.com/eKGXUpv.jpg	[21:26]
pankkake	looks like music	[21:27]
*	pgp (~pgp@cpe-72-225-224-41.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:28]
*	djcoin_ (~d@ppp121-44-230-10.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:29]
smidge	volume exceeds april crash by far	[21:29]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[21:30]
*	wiggzz (62c9b5ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.201.181.206) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:30]
gribble	952.70	[21:30]
thestringpuller	my puts are almost itm	[21:31]
*	mjoiii_ (~Android@199-7-156-128.eng.wind.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:31]
*	mjoiii has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[21:32]
thestringpuller	;;goxlag	[21:32]
gribble	MtGox lag is 2791.205394 seconds. During this time, light travels 5.59354435768 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).	[21:32]
KRS\|gotyawallet	Gox should just submit a trouble ticket to their support department..duh.	[21:33]
ThickAsThieves	Hello this is GoDaddy, how can we help you today?	[21:33]
KRS\|gotyawallet	Send over that racing bitch..She's hawt.	[21:34]
thestringpuller	bitstmp hasn't tripped yet though	[21:34]
thestringpuller	trades are still going hard	[21:34]
pankkake	I'm not sure what can I do with this… http://i.imgur.com/Li7nNHC.png (bitcoin-central)	[21:34]
*	darkee_ (~darkee@gateway/tor-sasl/darkee) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:34]
*	darkee_ is now known as darkee	[21:34]
jurov`	i'm still unverified at b-c	[21:36]
pankkake	at least there is no risk of lag	[21:36]
thestringpuller	jurov`: I'm sending another deposit	[21:36]
Apocalyptic	pankkake, that orderbook density	[21:37]
thestringpuller	;;goxlag	[21:37]
gribble	MtGox lag is 3056.857142 seconds. During this time, light travels 6.12590748629 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).	[21:37]
Bugpowder	@zerohedge 4m NYSE declares self help against Mt. Gox	[21:38]
thestringpuller	is that from twitter?	[21:39]
Bugpowder	yeah	[21:40]
Bugpowder	http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/12/20131206_BTC2.jpg	[21:40]
Bugpowder	zh is getting wet	[21:40]
Bugpowder	over BIDU	[21:40]
Bugpowder	I guess he missed the announcement yesterday?	[21:40]
jurov`	lol mtgoxlive literally out of the window	[21:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.30800266 = 0.924 BTC [+] {2}	[21:41]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[21:41]
gribble	951.33	[21:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0028997 = 0.8699 BTC [+] {2}	[21:42]
ThickAsThieves	i went for NSPNY at $61 instead	[21:43]
*	oleganza (~oleganza@gut75-6-88-174-43-212.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3851 @ 0.00273821 = 10.5448 BTC [-] {18}	[21:47]
*	KableKiB_ (~KableKiB@24.114.80.84) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:49]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[21:56]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading	[21:56]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013	[21:56]
*	[\] has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[21:56]
*	jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:56]
*	jborkl has quit (Client Quit)	[21:56]
ThickAsThieves	Bitcoin Breaks Another Record	[21:56]
ThickAsThieves	get it? get it?	[21:56]
pankkake	Bitcoin Breaks?	[21:57]
ThickAsThieves	broken record	[21:57]
pankkake	oh	[21:57]
ThickAsThieves	playing over and over	[21:57]
ThickAsThieves	it's funnier when you explain it	[21:57]
thestringpuller	this is a good retreat though	[21:57]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[21:57]
thestringpuller	octoboer was hovering around 200	[21:57]
*	gesell has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[21:57]
*	oleganza has quit (Quit: oleganza)	[21:58]
thestringpuller	someone must be exiting their position	[21:58]
*	oleganza (~oleganza@gut75-6-88-174-43-212.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:58]
*	KableKiB_ has quit (Quit: Bye)	[21:58]
*	sois (4312d047@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.18.208.71) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:58]
ThickAsThieves	from an escher painting	[21:58]
*	Evolyn_ (~Evolyn@p4FDCFEA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:58]
*	mjoiii has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[21:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16182 @ 0.00078592 = 12.7178 BTC [+]	[21:59]
*	Evolyn has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	hahaha	[21:59]
twizt	so where is this gonna end lol	[22:00]
twizt	with an hour delay	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	;;tslb	[22:01]
gribble	Time since last block: 14 minutes and 39 seconds	[22:01]
*	mjoiii (~Android@108.162.153.218) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:01]
pankkake	is there a gox lag chart?	[22:02]
Apocalyptic	currently it's a gox loop chart	[22:02]
nubbins`	;;ticker --last	[22:03]
gribble	877.46198	[22:03]
nubbins`	heh	[22:03]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker --loop	[22:03]
gribble	(ticker [--bid\|--ask\|--last\|--high\|--low\|--avg\|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market \|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)	[22:03]
nubbins`	okay, so i just bought a sufjan stevens record	[22:03]
ThickAsThieves	here's Mark right now: http://i.imgur.com/rLhaCT6.jpg	[22:03]
nubbins`	my favourite album so far -- seven swans -- and i didn't even know it was available on vinyl	[22:04]
nubbins`	stumbled upon a reissue today!	[22:04]
ThickAsThieves	nice	[22:04]
*	mjoiii_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[22:04]
nubbins`	yeah, wanna listen to it badly	[22:04]
nubbins`	but i'm gonna hold off and give it to my wife for xmas	[22:04]
ThickAsThieves	it's a great album	[22:05]
ThickAsThieves	but i still prefer Age of Adz these days	[22:05]
ThickAsThieves	not really the same styke thi	[22:05]
ThickAsThieves	style tho*	[22:05]
nubbins`	yeah, i still haven't heard age of adz	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	this just in : mtgox server upgraded with wafflemaker!	[22:05]
nubbins`	queuing it up right now on youchube	[22:05]
thestringpuller	;;goxlag	[22:05]
gribble	MtGox lag is 4772.813016 seconds. During this time, light travels 9.56466384499 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).	[22:06]
thestringpuller	dude seriously?	[22:06]
thestringpuller	that's like 3 episodes of seinfeld	[22:06]
nubbins`	it's just saturn, no sweat	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	nothing like last year's half day record	[22:06]
nubbins`	lel cavirtex @ $810	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	you mean i'm not a billionaire again !?	[22:07]
thestringpuller	LOL	[22:07]
thestringpuller	you'll be a billionaire again by christmas	[22:08]
thestringpuller	that should be a good bitbet	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	aok	[22:08]
nubbins`	haha	[22:08]
nubbins`	good xmas gift too	[22:08]
KRS\|gotyawallet	haha	[22:08]
thestringpuller	"mircea_popescu to be billionaire again by Christmas 2013"	[22:08]
KRS\|gotyawallet	bit bet!	[22:08]
pankkake	bad bet	[22:08]
ThickAsThieves	Mark is gonna be so rich with all this volume!	[22:08]
nubbins`	pankkake: +1	[22:08]
nubbins`	he could divest himself on xmas eve	[22:08]
*	HaltingState has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	everyone is a billionaire eventually, but bitcoin people get tyo do it many times a week]	[22:08]
KRS\|gotyawallet	there is that much faith in this?	[22:09]
thestringpuller	i'm a billionaire with zimbabwe dollars	[22:09]
pankkake	can you be less than a trillionnaire ?	[22:09]
thestringpuller	well trillionaire actually	[22:09]
nubbins`	ThickAsThieves: hints of Enjoy Your Rabbit in here	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	pankkake only if you're somaly	[22:09]
KRS\|gotyawallet	I didnt know you all were so serious about bitcoin. I always figure it will meh.	[22:09]
nubbins`	krs, not so serious	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	i am very srs.	[22:10]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i mean this is really going to climb?	[22:10]
ThickAsThieves	i havent heard Enjoy i dont think	[22:10]
nubbins`	very electronic	[22:10]
ThickAsThieves	ah	[22:10]
pankkake	eventually	[22:10]
nubbins`	not a fan, altho i've only given it a listen or two	[22:10]
nubbins`	should revisit some day	[22:10]
ThickAsThieves	early electronic, sounds risky indeed	[22:10]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i was ecstatic when i realized i didnt have to work anymore	[22:10]
nubbins`	nod	[22:10]
thestringpuller	there should be a bitbet against code changes	[22:10]
nubbins`	lots of squelchy bloops	[22:11]
thestringpuller	"All magic numbers in bitcoin to disappear by 2014"	[22:11]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i want to devote myself to an open source project but not sure what i want to put my weight behind	[22:11]
thestringpuller	not bitcoin?	[22:11]
ThickAsThieves	<@SarahCoinBit> stolenNick: I'm pretty sure it's ddos. Our tech team have been woken up and are looking into it	[22:12]
KRS\|gotyawallet	something bitcoin	[22:12]
thestringpuller	something something darkside something something complete?	[22:12]
nubbins`	well, y'know	[22:12]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i just keep thinking something will happen and i will have to exit	[22:12]
nubbins`	if you're not sure what to do with your money, you can just become a patron of the arts	[22:12]
thestringpuller	i bought in at 12 USD	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	...	[22:23]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[22:24]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading	[22:24]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013	[22:24]
pankkake	;;goxlag	[22:24]
gribble	MtGox lag is 4959.229808 seconds. During this time, light travels 9.93824100893 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).	[22:24]
pankkake	going down!	[22:25]
pankkake	or not	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	less lag!	[22:25]
pankkake	;;goxlag	[22:25]
gribble	MtGox lag is 9959748.13382 seconds. During this time, light travels 19959.2237453 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).	[22:25]
thestringpuller	20 dollar spread	[22:26]
thestringpuller	playthe spread gogogogogogo	[22:26]
taub	oh, haha	[22:26]
taub	gox in circuit breaker mode	[22:26]
taub	5min lag	[22:26]
thestringpuller	gox lag looks like it is broken	[22:26]
thestringpuller	i'm getting 12 minute	[22:26]
thestringpuller	wait it's going down	[22:26]
thestringpuller	the orders are starting to go through (checking via API)	[22:27]
taub	historic, order book ratio below price	[22:27]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[22:27]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 850.92528, Best ask: 897.0, Bid-ask spread: 46.07472, Last trade: 840.0, 24 hour volume: 42895.66604874, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 978.47868	[22:27]
thestringpuller	Bugpowder we neeeeeeed you	[22:27]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[22:30]
gribble	933.62	[22:30]
thestringpuller	wow	[22:30]
taub	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=360170.0 ..	[22:31]
ozbot	Gox false signal, loop, aka westexaco: Gox runs its servers from a potato	[22:31]
kakobrekla	its not the hw its the sw	[22:31]
thestringpuller	it's not the software it's the people	[22:32]
thestringpuller	gox's people are all n00bs	[22:32]
thestringpuller	i could run a better exchange	[22:32]
pankkake	do it	[22:32]
ThickAsThieves	here comes the bounce	[22:32]
taub	well, seeing as how pretty much all exchanges break down under load...	[22:32]
thestringpuller	no no no	[22:32]
thestringpuller	no bounch yet	[22:33]
ThickAsThieves	sorry man	[22:33]
thestringpuller	my puts are finally itm	[22:33]
ThickAsThieves	she's ready	[22:33]
thestringpuller	NOOOOOOOOO	[22:33]
thestringpuller	i'm not hard yet	[22:33]
thestringpuller	twss	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[22:33]
nubbins`	huh	[22:34]
nubbins`	my bank now sells precious metals	[22:34]
ThickAsThieves	my bank has US Patriot Act placards on every desk	[22:35]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[22:36]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 925.0, Best ask: 940.0, Bid-ask spread: 15.00000, Last trade: 940.0, 24 hour volume: 44383.89502737, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 974.67855	[22:36]
nubbins`	https://www.preciousmetals.cibc.com/	[22:36]
ozbot	Home - CIBC Precious Metals	[22:36]
benkay	dat 24 hour low	[22:37]
nubbins`	interesting, but not really competitively priced	[22:37]
ThickAsThieves	;;bcstats	[22:37]
nubbins`	convenient tho	[22:37]
thestringpuller	geeze	[22:37]
gribble	Current Blocks: 273454 \| Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 \| Next Difficulty In: 721 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 13 hours, 39 minutes, and 48 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 888475078.261 \| Estimated Percent Change: 25.5958	[22:37]
thestringpuller	fuck	[22:37]
ThickAsThieves	toldya	[22:37]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[22:37]
thestringpuller	lesigh	[22:37]
thestringpuller	oh well	[22:37]
gribble	932.93	[22:37]
pankkake	;;goxlag	[22:37]
gribble	MtGox lag is 5788.684666 seconds. During this time, light travels 11.6004592573 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).	[22:37]
thestringpuller	it was worth shot	[22:37]
KRS\|gotyawallet	thickasthieves: when you were buying at $12 I was selling at $14 to make roi on my mining operations..i did not have faith =/	[22:38]
KRS\|gotyawallet	i've actually gone balls deep into mining again	[22:38]
ThickAsThieves	:/	[22:38]
nubbins`	:(	[22:38]
thestringpuller	is your hardware paid off?	[22:38]
ThickAsThieves	bitcoin can accommodate your balls just fine	[22:38]
*	Diablo-D3 has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)	[22:39]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[22:39]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 935.0, Best ask: 939.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.00000, Last trade: 935.0, 24 hour volume: 44846.72187139, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 972.41213	[22:40]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[22:40]
gribble	931.90	[22:40]
KRS\|gotyawallet	haha yeah i did well i should have just held off from selling.	[22:43]
ThickAsThieves	pong	[22:43]
*	gesell (~user@p200300454E1392010D52704108822C83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:44]
*	Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-64-222-229-141.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:44]
*	gesell (~user@p200300454E1392010D52704108822C83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has left #bitcoin-assets	[22:44]
*	oleganza has quit (Quit: oleganza)	[22:45]
thestringpuller	goxlag to normal	[22:46]
thestringpuller	;;goxlag	[22:47]
gribble	MtGox lag is 0.247187 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000495359980356 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).	[22:47]
thestringpuller	dope	[22:47]
KRS\|gotyawallet	around 20 hours ago or so maybe, fontas mentioned large amounts of btc were headed to the exchanges but then he said he was joking..wonder if this was that	[22:47]
KRS\|gotyawallet	then it makes me wonder wtf do these sellers know thats making them sell	[22:47]
thestringpuller	AND NOW BITCOIN CHARTS IS DOWN	[22:47]
thestringpuller	i see how it is	[22:47]
thestringpuller	they ddos btc charts so that we can't exercise our options	[22:47]
pankkake	https://bunny1980.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/buy-buy-sell-sell.jpg	[22:48]
KRS\|gotyawallet	those bastages	[22:48]
benkay	;;ticker	[22:50]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 889.90966, Best ask: 899.99, Bid-ask spread: 10.08034, Last trade: 890.0, 24 hour volume: 45457.90578599, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1140.0, 24 hour vwap: 969.05248	[22:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5441 @ 0.00078466 = 4.2693 BTC [-]	[22:50]
*	B0g4r7_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[22:50]
thestringpuller	Bwahahaha	[22:50]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[22:51]
gribble	931.18	[22:51]
ThickAsThieves	;;tslb	[22:51]
gribble	Time since last block: 30 minutes and 15 seconds	[22:51]
ThickAsThieves	taker your time nethash	[22:52]
*	mjoiii_ (~Android@108.162.153.218) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:52]
*	B0g4r7_ (~B0g4r7@208.76.200.200) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:54]
pankkake	3 blocks in a minute	[22:55]
pankkake	4!	[22:55]
pankkake	no, blockchain.info broken	[22:55]
*	mjoiii has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[22:55]
*	mjoiii__ (~Android@199.119.232.213) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	;;tslb	[22:55]
gribble	Time since last block: 1 minute and 36 seconds	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	;;bcstats	[22:55]
gribble	Current Blocks: 273457 \| Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 \| Next Difficulty In: 718 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 13 hours, 43 minutes, and 52 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 887746503.029 \| Estimated Percent Change: 25.49281	[22:55]
*	mjoiii_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[22:57]
Bugpowder	thestringpuller: never buy puts	[22:59]
Bugpowder	its just setting your bitcoins on fire	[22:59]
pankkake	and they become BBQCoins?	[22:59]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[23:05]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading	[23:05]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013	[23:05]
*	deadweasel (~deadwease@gateway/tor-sasl/deadweasel) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:06]
*	Kleeck (~Kleeck@c-50-151-121-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:08]
*	lewicki has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[23:09]
deadweasel	;;ticker	[23:11]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 898.00501, Best ask: 904.69, Bid-ask spread: 6.68499, Last trade: 904.97499, 24 hour volume: 45888.03323050, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1138.5, 24 hour vwap: 964.48303	[23:11]
thestringpuller	sir we need more volume!	[23:11]
thestringpuller	;;next	[23:12]
gribble	See latest update from Onefixt here: https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle/	[23:12]
*	twizt has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)	[23:13]
pankkake	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGPhUr-T6UM	[23:13]
assbot	brb	[23:14]
pankkake	vid is relevant too!	[23:14]
*	assbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[23:14]
jurov`	http://www.thedrum.com/stuff/2013/12/05/romanian-farmville-fans-claim-400000-government-subsidiaries-fake-cows?desktop=1	[23:14]
jurov`	romania ftw	[23:14]
jurov`	virtual cows	[23:14]
pankkake	already seen here	[23:14]
ThickAsThieves	Which would you rather visit Chile or Brazil?	[23:15]
*	Korbman has quit (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t \|t'z 5c4rY!)	[23:15]
deadweasel	lol jurov`	[23:15]
*	kakobrekla has quit (Quit: bye)	[23:15]
deadweasel	romanians, good fun.	[23:15]
*	smidge has quit (Quit: sorry, but you've mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck...)	[23:16]
*	kakobrekla (~T42@unaffiliated/kakobrekla) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:18]
*	assbot (~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:20]
*	ChanServ gives channel operator status to assbot	[23:20]
*	kakobrekla (~T42@unaffiliated/kakobrekla) has left #bitcoin-assets	[23:21]
*	kakobrekla (~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:21]
pankkake	what's up, assbot?	[23:21]
assbot	nuttin just got greased	[23:22]
pankkake	shiny	[23:22]
*	tyrion70 (~Adium@unaffiliated/tyrion70) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:22]
nubbins`	ThickAsThieves: chile	[23:23]
thestringpuller	nubbins`: so what is the pricing for oil painting commissions	[23:25]
ThickAsThieves	someone else recently said chile was nice	[23:26]
nubbins`	ah, i'd have to get back to you on that. ink or watercolor, maybe $2-300. oil, realistically a couple grand	[23:26]
nubbins`	depends on size	[23:27]
*	djcoin_ has quit (Quit: djcoin_)	[23:32]
nubbins`	something smaller, maybe a couple hundred for oil	[23:32]
nubbins`	if you're srs and want a more accurate quote, just let me know what size and what you had in mind	[23:33]
*	mjoiii (~Android@108-162-153-218.cable.teksavvy.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:35]
*	mjoiii__ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[23:38]
thestringpuller	maybe i want a napoleon-esque style portrait of mircea_popescu commissioned	[23:39]
thestringpuller	to put in my living room	[23:39]
thestringpuller	with a giant bitcoin watermark in the background	[23:39]
thestringpuller	the title: "The Bitcoin Chairman"	[23:39]
benkay	not king?	[23:40]
*	oleganza (~oleganza@gut75-6-88-174-43-212.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:41]
jurov`	just use the horse photo	[23:41]
jurov`	The Bitcoin Pharaoh	[23:41]
thestringpuller	^-there we go	[23:41]
thestringpuller	nubbins` make a btc address and lets start donating	[23:42]
thestringpuller	I'll put down .05 btc rightnow	[23:42]
nubbins`	sec	[23:42]
nubbins`	1CXK1j9sk3xz48svhtWzcTkLzjvk7NwPFs	[23:42]
benkay	high rolla	[23:43]
thestringpuller	lets do it	[23:43]
nubbins`	maybe a gold btc logo for the sun	[23:44]
nubbins`	shining into his eyes?	[23:45]
thestringpuller	we'll present it to him at the btc conference in romania	[23:45]
thestringpuller	alright 0.05 sent	[23:45]
thestringpuller	how much more do we need?	[23:45]
nubbins`	got it	[23:45]
deadweasel	bitcoin contact lenses, sell those. probably resell form these guys: http://www.customcontacts.com/special-effects-lenses/gallery	[23:46]
deadweasel	from*	[23:46]
nubbins`	well, suppose we do a pay-as-you-go. you've already got yourself a few concept sketches paid for.	[23:46]
thestringpuller	see if you can get the sketches into a trilema article ;)	[23:47]
thestringpuller	then we may be able to get more people to donate	[23:47]
Bugpowder	thestringpuller: I lose money everytime I go bearish. So I don't go bearish anymore.	[23:47]
nubbins`	haha	[23:47]
nubbins`	deal	[23:47]
nubbins`	should be able to get started this weekend	[23:48]
thestringpuller	The Great Bitcoin Pharoah!	[23:48]
thestringpuller	i should commission a rapper to make an MPEx hip hop track	[23:48]
thestringpuller	hit all facets of the arts	[23:49]
nubbins`	heh	[23:49]
nubbins`	uh, i could probably get that pulled together for you too	[23:49]
nubbins`	one thing at a time tho, hey	[23:50]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[23:50]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 921.5, Best ask: 934.99998, Bid-ask spread: 13.49998, Last trade: 921.04, 24 hour volume: 47411.98164781, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1135.715, 24 hour vwap: 962.06274	[23:50]
nubbins`	is there a full version of that horse pic somewhere?	[23:50]
*	benkay has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[23:50]
*	oleganza has quit (Quit: oleganza)	[23:50]
nubbins`	ugh. my roommate has no sense of smell, and he just dropped a rotten fart.	[23:50]
nubbins`	the bastard	[23:50]
kakobrekla	get a chick for a mate	[23:51]
kakobrekla	their farts smell like roses	[23:51]
nubbins`	i have one, and no they don't	[23:51]
kakobrekla	dunno what u feed them	[23:51]
kakobrekla	stop with the veggies	[23:51]
nubbins`	not rose petals	[23:51]
nubbins`	what, meat is gonna make em smell better?!	[23:51]
ThickAsThieves	using the wrong pellets	[23:52]
kakobrekla	well have you ever been in a company of veggi only eaters for extended periods of time?	[23:52]
nubbins`	kako, no	[23:52]
kakobrekla	well there you go.	[23:52]
nubbins`	HEH	[23:52]
nubbins`	kale farts	[23:52]
kakobrekla	its terrible i tell you	[23:52]
nubbins`	huh, kale is a brassica. who knew.	[23:53]
thestringpuller	bitstamp just bounced	[23:58]
thestringpuller	so i guess ThickAsThieves has inside information	[23:58]
thestringpuller	IT WAS HIM who caused this	[23:59]
*	lewicki (~lewicki@unaffiliated/lewicki) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:59]

« Forum logs for 05 Dec 2013

Forum logs for 07 Dec 2013 »

Category: Logs

Comments feed : RSS 2.0. Leave your own comment below, or send a trackback.

Add your cents! »

If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed.

Forum logs for 06 Dec 2013

Recent Comments

Recent Articles

Pages

Say NO! to platforms