Forum logs for 05 Oct 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu wow, that MPOE, did somebody drop some bad news about MP today? << i dunno dude, i woke up and it was like... [00:18]
mircea_popescu ahaha punkman where's that from [00:19]
punkman mircea_popescu: some imaginative young writer I presume [00:25]
mircea_popescu pretty great, i lollered. [00:25]
punkman also, oh gawd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_interlock_device [00:25]
assbot Ignition interlock device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z246Gd ) [00:25]
mircea_popescu hint : you can always blow your lighter into the damned thing. it doesn't measure oxygen output [00:26]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291770 << saw this up close once, recently - the new ones are trickier, they require the victim to make sounds into the orifice while blowing, even. [00:42]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 03:25:16; mircea_popescu: hint : you can always blow your lighter into the damned thing. it doesn't measure oxygen output [00:42]
punkman pet racoon it is then [00:43]
mircea_popescu well, or pet arab [00:43]
mircea_popescu allahu snackbar! [00:43]
punkman they might upgrade to buttplug alcohol sensor on driver's seat, that might be tricky [00:44]
mircea_popescu pet arab woman. doesn't drink, is used to diddling. [00:45]
ascii_field the interlock thing is actually a rather harsh punishment, as i understand - for instance, it sometimes demands a blow... while the car is moving [00:45]
ascii_field at random. [00:46]
punkman and sucker gotta pay $100/month for it [00:46]
mircea_popescu while its true that security contraptions never deliver any security, it is nevertheless the case that they do require a rent. because everything that exists des. [00:46]
ascii_field aha how else ! [00:47]
ascii_field in this case, quite literally [00:47]
mircea_popescu the one "innovation" that cooled me off the "civilised" world were the fcucking speed bumps. [00:49]
punkman http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/10/muslims-say-they-will-make-it-legal-to-rape-white-christian-women-when-they-take-over-europe-2/ [00:49]
assbot Muslims Say They Will Make It Legal to Rape White Christian Women When They Take Over Europe - Freedom Outpost ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z26jSf ) [00:49]
mircea_popescu let's shake everyone that passes through a street because hey, we can't just shoot whosoever speeds and kills a kid or whatever. [00:49]
mircea_popescu fuck that shit. [00:49]
mircea_popescu punkman that's pretty stupid. the only reason they even have the half a shot they have currently is the rape. [00:49]
ascii_field my theory was that the bumps are from nostalgia for crappy orcish roads... [00:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00041563 = 2.7432 BTC [-] [00:51]
mircea_popescu my theory is that the bumps are from aged female nostalgia for their earlier time in a car. which a male owned, like he owned their teenaged ass. [00:51]
mircea_popescu "can't we even get a LITTLE bumping ????" [00:51]
mircea_popescu "i remember 30 years ago used to get 150 bumps to the yard. y u no make road like used to!" [00:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00041563 = 3.6368 BTC [-] [00:53]
ascii_field ;;isup trilema.com [00:56]
gribble trilema.com is up [00:56]
ascii_field hm [00:57]
ascii_field ;;isup qntra.net [00:57]
gribble qntra.net is up [00:57]
* trinque has arrived in Amarillo [00:57]
ascii_field ^ neither loads here [00:57]
trinque as soon as I hit the TX border, industry! [00:57]
trinque things happening everywhere! [00:57]
trinque turns out when you let people keep more of their own goddamn money the thing just sorts itself [00:59]
trinque who knew... [00:59]
trinque Amarillo's a pretty boring town and even the gas station was spotless, workers there were goddamn on point and asking me what I needed, sir [01:00]
ascii_field why not alaska then ?! [01:00]
trinque fuck alaska [01:00]
trinque nobody there [01:00]
ascii_field but keep even moar of own money... [01:00]
trinque obviously not the only factor [01:00]
mircea_popescu no you don't, everything costs forever. [01:01]
ascii_field betcha the filling station in anchorage is sterile [01:01]
trinque point being *the workers there* cared about the stupid gas station [01:01]
ascii_field costs, yes [01:01]
mircea_popescu this is what "keep money" is. [01:02]
ascii_field usg takes less? then moar for the landlord to harvest [01:02]
mircea_popescu ... [01:02]
mircea_popescu alaska is far away and everything has to be shipped at great expense. [01:02]
trinque I'm in a $50/day hotel room with king sized bed, indoor pool, it's lovely [01:02]
ascii_field trinque: my point was that: tanstaafl (tm) (r) [01:03]
trinque who said their was? [01:03]
trinque *there [01:03]
trinque this state has a gigantic port [01:04]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: aha! sorta like buenos aires [01:04]
trinque industy throughout, agriculture, so on [01:04]
punkman too much industry and you get beijing air [01:04]
trinque and I maintain that there's something far better about these people than any other state in the US, such that it stands a hair of a chance to survive it [01:04]
trinque if you don't work here you're fucking nobody [01:05]
BingoBoingo and I maintain that there's something far better about these people than any other state in the US, such that it stands a hair of a chance to survive it << I'm telling you Missouri is even more Texan than Texas [01:05]
trinque all it has is a river [01:06]
trinque the port matters [01:06]
trinque missouri's not nearly as wealthy [01:06]
mircea_popescu well you were discussing worth ethics. [01:08]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291831 << vs where..? [01:08]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 04:03:36; trinque: if you don't work here you're fucking nobody [01:08]
BingoBoingo Missouri has two rivers and the Ohio river terminus. Vast amounts of bulk goods constantly moving [01:09]
trinque ascii_field: vs portland for on! [01:09]
trinque *one [01:09]
BingoBoingo But I'm discussing the people. Far more texan than Texans are [01:09]
trinque even the software devs sit around laughing about how lazy they are [01:09]
trinque and "oh my work is such shit" [01:10]
trinque BingoBoingo: that could be [01:10]
ascii_field even?! [01:10]
ben_vulpes especially. [01:10]
ascii_field what animal is lazier than programmer ! [01:10]
trinque the "my work is such shit" offends me more [01:11]
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trinque you will find people here that give a shit about their name [01:11]
trinque !up ascii_field [01:11]
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ascii_field why would someone admit to 'my work is shit' ? [01:12]
punkman sometimes you know you suck? [01:13]
punkman or are getting paid to work on horrible things [01:14]
trinque the portland software scene is mostly about stapling open source together [01:14]
trinque along with that goes this "LOL everything is shit" attitude [01:14]
trinque and the implication that "if this doesn't work it is not my fault" [01:14]
trinque I saw a great deal of that [01:14]
ascii_field they can always come and fillet panda kittens at the belching workschwitzes here. [01:15]
trinque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Texas << pretty decent summary [01:16]
assbot Economy of Texas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0GYym ) [01:16]
trinque we're not churning out apps and lattes down here [01:16]
ascii_field also 'everything is shit' is a sane and correct attitude for anyone involved in kompyooting. [01:17]
trinque its still your fault if it doesn't work even if it's made of gum and twigs [01:17]
ascii_field in the sense where everyone who touches such a thing shares the sin - yes. [01:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00041563 = 1.9327 BTC [-] [01:21]
mircea_popescu why would someone admit to 'my work is shit' ? << it's an hipster thing. irony. [01:21]
ascii_field i must be thick [01:22]
mircea_popescu you just don't fuck enough teens. [01:22]
ascii_field my puny brain is powerless against this. [01:22]
mircea_popescu has nothing to do with brain power. it's a matter of language. youth culture, it's just its own kind of arbitrary nonsense. [01:23]
* ascii_field does not deal with teenz in any capacity whatsoever. they may as well be penguins or kangaroos. [01:23]
trinque "everything is bad, hahaha" [01:23]
trinque not anything more to it [01:24]
mircea_popescu well then how are you going to overturn the empire or how did that quote go. [01:24]
ascii_field if i needed arbitrary and tedious nonsense for anything, i'd visit a church [01:24]
mircea_popescu but teens are more fun to fuck. [01:24]
ascii_field or reddit [01:24]
mircea_popescu there is that. pretty much my objection to reddit is "all the stupid i stomp out on a daily basis minus the toe suckling and etc" [01:24]
ascii_field when suckling a toe... is there: milk? [01:25]
ascii_field or only if rms's ?! [01:25]
mircea_popescu "here's this new gasoline, it has no caloric power" "what does it have then ?" "strong odor, slightly carcinogenic, stains..." [01:25]
trinque bleh! [01:25]
mircea_popescu lol milk. no there isn't milk. it's a futile act. [01:26]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: see ilkka kokkarinen's piece re: glass [01:26]
mircea_popescu ;;google ilkka kokkarinen's piece re: glass [01:26]
gribble Recent User Submissions - The Movie Cliches List: ; Loper OS » For Your Eyes Only: ; Steve Sailer: iSteve: The benefits of reciprocity: [01:26]
mircea_popescu does anyone seriously propose the "google is useful" myth anymore even ? [01:27]
ascii_field (worst possible material! imagine if it were not translucent - who would use it?) [01:27]
mircea_popescu i have some obsidian i took out of a guatemalan pavement wiht my own hands. [01:27]
mircea_popescu it's pretty cool. not really translucent. a little around the edges. [01:27]
ascii_field grep his book (on my www warez dir, in the logz) [01:28]
ascii_field aha! i have a piece somewhere [01:28]
mircea_popescu which reminds me of the aids joke. dja know the aids joke ? [01:28]
ascii_field modern man isn't, afaik, very handy with it [01:28]
ascii_field which [01:28]
mircea_popescu romanian peasant asks other romanian peasant : yo, gheo, you got any aids yo ? [01:28]
mircea_popescu gheo thinks... if i say no, he's gonna think im poor. if i say yes he's gonna ask for some. [01:29]
mircea_popescu "i have a little around the edges" [01:29]
ascii_field l0l [01:29]
* ascii_field wonders if aids jokes all began life as syphilis joke [01:30]
mircea_popescu i would expect so. [01:30]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/time-to-rehash-that-old-strategic-superiority-discussion/#comment-115521 << i let it through because mildly curious if the shilled "titan miner firmware upgrade" has a rootkit or something in it [01:36]
assbot Time to rehash that old strategic superiority discussion. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0IMrh ) [01:36]
mircea_popescu ascii_field ^ [01:36]
ascii_field buy with paypal on ebay! l0lz. [01:39]
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BingoBoingo !up ascii_field [01:43]
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BingoBoingo http://corgiaddict.com/post/1432015905 [01:46]
assbot OCD: Obsessive Corgi Disorder, What makes fluffy corgis so rare? I have never... ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0Jy7G ) [01:46]
deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] What The Old Man Does Is Always Right. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/04/what-the-old-man-does-is-always-right/ [01:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00041563 = 5.7565 BTC [-] {2} [01:53]
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mircea_popescu http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/DavidGalindo/20140109/208337/How_much_do_indie_PC_devs_make_anyways_Part_V.php << me is having fun reading indie gaming stuff [02:02]
assbot Gamasutra: David Galindo's Blog - How much do indie PC devs make, anyways? (Part V) ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0KMQf ) [02:02]
mircea_popescu "On October 8th, 2013, just a few days shy of one year since CSD officially launched, the game landed on Steam. And in just one day, I had made nearly $15,000 in gross sales, which was almost as much as I made in the entire last year on PC/Mac/Linux for CSD. In two days, I surpassed it. In one week, I had made over $50,000 in gross revenue… more than I did in the last three years as a game maker and barista. My fami [02:02]
mircea_popescu ly couldn’t believe it. I couldn’t believe it. Finally, I felt redeemed. This was a path that was more than a dozen years in the making, but I had finally made it." [02:02]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.19203125 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin block reward halving on or before 20 July 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1182/bitcoin-block-reward-halving-on-or-before-20/#b6 [02:11]
mircea_popescu ;;halfreward [02:19]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Tue Jul 26 03:37:30 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 42 weeks, 0 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds. [02:19]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 6/42/7 [02:19]
gribble 0.0204081632653 [02:19]
mircea_popescu 2% sounds just about right huh. [02:19]
mircea_popescu nice bet. [02:20]
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cazalla mircea_popescu, qntra has received similar comments, figured it for spam and binned [02:27]
mircea_popescu it's handmade spam, baiscally, yea. [02:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12928 @ 0.00041574 = 5.3747 BTC [+] [02:29]
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cazalla for those into 4wd'ing http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-05/anatomy-of-hawkei/6828328 [02:31]
assbot Hawkei: Kick the tyres on the Australian Army's latest armoured vehicle - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1hkwa5z ) [02:31]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/f11861e32a053456cd5a666a36082c8b/tumblr_njbtmmoTUA1su84zzo1_1280.jpg [02:39]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1hkxvcM ) [02:39]
mircea_popescu ship beats car. [02:39]
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mircea_popescu http://yachtclubgames.com/2014/08/sales-one-month/ << here's one kickstarter that apparently made it. took ~300k in free money, made so-so successful game. [02:50]
assbot Sales Breakdown: One month later! | Yacht Club Games ... ( http://bit.ly/1OemjeS ) [02:50]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291396 << cheers danp :) [02:51]
assbot Logged on 04-10-2015 13:22:49; danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291326 << https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/650631044241170432 [02:51]
cazalla submarine beats ship https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkVZ52NCcAE0Kix.jpg:large (try as i might, cannot find any sexy submariner women) [02:51]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OempTw ) [02:51]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/3f2a6adcf10398543d0471beb14a19f6/tumblr_nf2wj7ZHqA1tdu6c7o1_500.jpg << guess what beats submarine. [02:52]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1hkzxcP ) [02:52]
pete_dushenski http://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/09/the-five-rules-of-australias-most-successful-game-creator/ << found via sandbaydev's twatter [02:52]
assbot The Five Rules Of Australia's Most Successful Game Creator | Kotaku Australia ... ( http://bit.ly/1hkzxtr ) [02:52]
pete_dushenski yes, gizmodo property, should be burned, but from what i know of eulora, it seems to tick the 5 boxes [02:53]
pete_dushenski also, just started poking juuso hietalahti. will provide updates. [02:54]
pete_dushenski and i've been digging for names or connections on that wem chick but nothing's turned up. though it's entirely possible that she was visiting from out of town. the mall is a tourist trap extraordinaire. [02:55]
mircea_popescu from experience, it's cheaper to create this stuff than to catalogue it. [02:56]
pete_dushenski aha. [02:56]
mircea_popescu " 50 million downloads and $10 million later" << eulora only made ~2k or so yet. [02:56]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291488 << this is indeed the case. [02:56]
assbot Logged on 04-10-2015 14:49:43; ascii_field: perhaps it was a case of 'soviet elephants are the biggest elephants' [02:56]
trinque got pretty far on the buy/sell board this eve but it'll be a couple more days. colorado's attempt at murder slowed down my travels [02:57]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu downloads or dollars ? [02:57]
pete_dushenski trinque fight the fog ! [02:57]
trinque was quite a drive! [02:57]
trinque I enjoyed it [02:57]
mircea_popescu dollars. [02:57]
pete_dushenski trinque it's good practise for parenthood. similar to sleep deprivation. [02:57]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu how many downloads ? [02:57]
mircea_popescu i don't actually keep track. [02:58]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291591 << you're the prop master ;) [02:58]
assbot Logged on 04-10-2015 17:08:09; mircea_popescu: are we betting wherer agent scully lost her freenode nick pw ? [02:58]
mircea_popescu nah, she got in. [02:59]
pete_dushenski cool beans [02:59]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291607 << fuck is this prototype game currency ever a ball of yarn. but hey, what else is there ? [03:00]
assbot Logged on 04-10-2015 17:49:14; mircea_popescu: check out bizarro tx rewriting. i issued fca843c0b40a1755eee073a719c856baa7fbf5ac28db84804a44a91f52638632 which worked as expected, but apparently there's a 5269a0e862876040db21706a7849ffd1b7d63e72d6dd61b1d2431a51698bb007 restatement of it [03:00]
mircea_popescu turns out someone was "stress testing" by echoing malleated txn. [03:01]
mircea_popescu it's funny what impotence does to people. they'd like to be part of bitcoin, EXCEPT not on bitcoin terms. they wanna do it on their own terms. originally they hoped that derping on social media might do it, [03:02]
mircea_popescu but after the massacre they got for their hopes this year, everything's tumbleweed city. r/bitcoin like r/buttcoin, the ever more numerous forums etc. [03:02]
mircea_popescu so now they're "stress testing" aka if you won't care about my screaming im going to wet the bet. [03:03]
mircea_popescu bed* [03:03]
pete_dushenski "A woman goes to the gynecologist for an exam. She puts her feet into the stirrups and the doctor begins his exam. After a moment, he says, "You have an unusually deep vagina." The woman replies, "You don't have to say it twice." The doctor says, "I didn't." [03:03]
mircea_popescu the part where the bed was made to piss you right in the forehead right back hasn't yet sunk in [03:03]
pete_dushenski aha. the ol' plastic cover under the sheets trick. (with an electric pump and a hose feeding back overhead) [03:04]
mircea_popescu anyway, he's to that day when sec/cftc/etc figure out that if they wanna play, they gotta behere, and play by the rules. and when academitards figure out that if they wanna play, they... gotta be here. and play by the rules. and when random tard etc. [03:04]
mircea_popescu might be a while, but hey, until then, more psycho material to examine will be produced. [03:05]
cazalla http://coinfire.io/2015/10/04/federal-investigations-of-cryptsy-underway/ [03:05]
pete_dushenski not like we're that old or have what better to do. [03:05]
assbot Just a moment... ... ( http://bit.ly/1hkBkyz ) [03:05]
mircea_popescu anyway, the ever more feverish pitch of desperation is lulzy. "sell bitcoin to me". dude... why the fuck would i be selling anything to you ? fuck you, your approval is not required, your desires don't matter, you're not being persuaded here. you're being raped. nobody gives a shit about your consent, let alone excitement to use bitcoin. you'll use it to survive, and marginally at that. [03:06]
pete_dushenski nah, i don't think we're anywhere near the "please oh pretty please sell to me" phase yet. still much closer to "why would i need something other than the dollar?" [03:08]
mircea_popescu mebbe. [03:08]
pete_dushenski and this, the fiat millionaires, not thousandaires on reddit [03:08]
mircea_popescu dude that kotaku article... [03:09]
mircea_popescu "Penny’s hatred of losing is legendary in the Hall household. Every time there was a possibility of her losing a game, she’d close the app and toss the phone away. Every time a game threatened to kill her she would quit. Immediately." [03:09]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291746 << he most certainly exists. i read a few of his books in the last few years. wasn't terribly offended by them either. [03:09]
assbot Logged on 04-10-2015 23:02:38; mircea_popescu: omfg seth godin still exists. http://sethgodin.typepad.com/icn.seths.head.png now a visibly old man, trying to stick to the orange background in a green shirt. practically speaking a parody of itself (not that it didn't start off as a parody - but by now it's not even intentional anymore). [03:09]
mircea_popescu "This feeds directly into Hall’s development process. Pac-Man 256 – a new version of Pac-Man that, if you’re good enough, literally never ends. Pac-Man as an endless runner. Or Crossy Road, an endless version of Frogger. In both games you are never punished for dying. Often you are rewarded. [03:09]
mircea_popescu In fact death isn’t mentioned at all. Neither is failure. Death in the traditional video game sense is absent." [03:09]
mircea_popescu fuck this shit omfg. [03:09]
mircea_popescu permadeath. not optional. god damned... [03:10]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski to me he's seriously another timecube. [03:10]
mircea_popescu "his shit makes sense, in its own paradigm" "sure. so does anything. his paradigm is pretty stupid" "can you formally prove this ?" "no. because..." [03:11]
mircea_popescu that's the guy's entire shtick. if your paradigm is stupid enough to not allow useful statements to be made, its inconsistency can not be proven. !godel approach to linguistic production. [03:11]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291753 << wilkommen ! [03:12]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 00:34:46; gabrielradio: thanks, i'm gonna be lurking in the #b-a irc yeshiva for a while [03:12]
mircea_popescu "but it enhanced my creativity" "so get a blowjob, eat a cookie, whatever". [03:12]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu godin is more 'inspirer' than practical or pragmatic anything. he's the archetype of the popular 'business' genre [03:13]
mircea_popescu right. [03:13]
pete_dushenski oh plently of cookies are eaten. probably not enough blowies and walks though [03:13]
pete_dushenski solo walks. sans headphones, sans idiots, sans smartphone. [03:14]
mircea_popescu “I used to play a lot of complicated games like Dungeon Keeper " oh come the fuck on. dungeon keeper's main appeal was that is simplicity incarnated. [03:14]
mircea_popescu the intellectual decay, over two short generations, is fucking awesome. [03:15]
pete_dushenski and as much as anything, derps wanna ~buy~ inspiration. it might as well come in a tin with a pull-off top. [03:15]
pete_dushenski and if other derps see you reading the label of your inspiration tin at the cool kids cafe, then maybe they'll instagram you and your business will win all kinds of phree exposure ! [03:16]
mircea_popescu the mutatis mutandis equivalent of this nonsense has existed for a longtime. doesn't even need that much mutation. [03:16]
mircea_popescu anyway, since we're doing azn airplanes nao, http://40.media.tumblr.com/9e46715f2261529a56f56830b286f437/tumblr_npv140Xmu01sr664vo1_1280.jpg [03:17]
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pete_dushenski https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums << and sicne we're up in the air, some space ships for good measure [03:18]
assbot Project Apollo Archive’s albums | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oep6oj ) [03:18]
trinque going to say the second one needs more butts. [03:21]
pete_dushenski https://www.facebook.com/289334207795128/videos/vb.289334207795128/970956059632936/?type=2&theater << "The Su-30 carries the single-barreled Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-1 cannon, which fires a 30X165mm cartridge at around 1,500 to 1,800 rounds per minute." [03:22]
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pete_dushenski ^pointiness makes up for butts [03:22]
pete_dushenski *lack of butts [03:22]
mircea_popescu hows tx trinque ? [03:22]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291759 << crystal ballin' now ? what is this 'due' business ? [03:23]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 01:59:29; mats: it was due for a few weeks [03:23]
trinque mircea_popescu: feels like home. perhaps someday there'll be a place outside the states I like more, but for now, this'll do [03:23]
mircea_popescu good for you. [03:24]
trinque ty [03:24]
trinque I don't think I've yet articulated precisely what it is that I find redeemable here, as there is plenty to criticize. [03:24]
trinque it is probably as simple as that it's more common here for people to rank and judge each other [03:25]
cazalla trinque, ya lived there before or is this your first day? [03:25]
trinque lived here since 11 [03:25]
trinque age not year [03:25]
trinque moved to portland the first time in 08, second time in 2012 [03:26]
trinque see it's not the rank/judge thing either; everyone that's human does that [03:28]
trinque it's the criteria used [03:28]
trinque I will think on this further as I settle in [03:28]
mircea_popescu moved for babes returned for food moved for babes returned for food ? [03:28]
trinque right on the mark. [03:29]
trinque and derpy projects like "if we just dumb down a database an idiot will blossom" [03:29]
trinque in portland [03:29]
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mircea_popescu never move for babes. the whole concept of babedom is they gotta move. [03:29]
trinque first time was a journey with a babe, second time I moved one up while working on that db thing [03:31]
trinque been shedding the notion that people can be improved without force for a while [03:32]
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mircea_popescu "We ended up operating for five months without money or payments to the team here. It was a difficult period, where some of us were awkwardly standing in front of cashiers having our credit cards declined, drawing from any possible savings, and borrowing money from our friends and family. But we made it to the other side!" [03:33]
mircea_popescu the 360k kickstarter. [03:33]
punkman what is it like a 10-person team for an indie game? [03:34]
cazalla top keks https://twitter.com/a3456gf/status/650588283328700416 [03:35]
mircea_popescu 5, they said. [03:35]
mircea_popescu i have my doubts indie efforts can manage more than ~4, really, which is essentially a double date [03:36]
punkman oh and they can't live on 70k a year? [03:36]
mircea_popescu (very often these numbers are fudged, it's not x people, it's two famblies. sort of like swining, except they don;t fuck.) [03:36]
mircea_popescu punkman the article is very carefully engineered to bilk, which is why i linked it. [03:37]
pete_dushenski cazalla lol [03:37]
punkman didn't read yet [03:37]
mircea_popescu is that you trolling ? [03:38]
cazalla nope, nfi who it is [03:38]
mircea_popescu o btw, do you have a reddit acct that's aged enough to make subreddits ? [03:39]
cazalla shame you didn't ask last night : just deleted one this morning after it was banned from a bunch of subreddits [03:40]
mircea_popescu a well. [03:40]
cazalla you can't create a subreddit without an aged account? [03:41]
cazalla i have another week old one but cannot remember pwd [03:41]
mircea_popescu jurov dja happen to have any idea how to package linux code for steam ? [03:46]
punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQhFDjRWEAA0uCA.jpg:large [03:52]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/neversurrender/ [03:52]
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mircea_popescu ahh i love oglaf. [03:55]
trinque so good [03:55]
punkman http://asiancorrespondent.com/135989/thai-military-hazes-students-as-punishment-for-erotic-hazing-video/ [04:01]
assbot Thai military hazes students as punishment for erotic hazing video | Asian Correspondent ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ld9CQw ) [04:01]
mircea_popescu sound principle [04:03]
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mircea_popescu lol [05:35]
mircea_popescu didanyone eventually advertise ? [05:37]
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PeterL http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291888 << is there a working alternative? [06:08]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 04:25:32; mircea_popescu: does anyone seriously propose the "google is useful" myth anymore even ? [06:08]
mircea_popescu "this pressed shit gun doesn't work" "is there an alternative ?" [06:09]
mircea_popescu i dunno, i'm not the sort of hayseed that needs to search the web. but i assume there isn't, because it's a hard problem. there not being, however, does nothing for google, imo. [06:09]
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PeterL so on the occasion when you do want to search web, what do you use? [06:16]
mircea_popescu search like how ? [06:18]
mircea_popescu if it's some pop cult reference i either ask someone in the know or else ud/tvtropes. if it's some actual thing i usually know enough to know what to read. [06:19]
mircea_popescu but in general, what sort of information do you obtain by putting words in a box ? suppose you search for "chicken broth" and they explain to you it's a heavy fuel oil. do you believe that ? [06:20]
mircea_popescu do you now go through life with the notion in your head that chicken broth is a fuel oil ? [06:20]
mircea_popescu and if you don't believe it anyway, then why bother with the box ? [06:20]
mircea_popescu if i want to find out what X said i don't go to ask google, i go ask x. etc. [06:20]
PeterL I find google useful as a starting point for finding things on the web [06:22]
mircea_popescu like what ? [06:22]
PeterL you don't get information from google, you just use google to get to the places with the info [06:22]
mircea_popescu if it's a complex enough graph it really doesn't matter where you start. [06:22]
mircea_popescu how do you know the places google takes you to have any info ? [06:23]
mircea_popescu (other than the memory hole effect, of course) [06:23]
PeterL the places it takes you to are to be evaluated separately from google [06:23]
PeterL Usually I find what I search for in the first page of google [06:24]
mircea_popescu but like, an example ? [06:24]
PeterL okay, today I wanted to refresh my memory on writing a letter of resignation. I type in the box "how to write a letter of resignation", and 3 of the first four links had nice examples [06:25]
mircea_popescu uh [06:25]
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mircea_popescu i don't think i've used style templates in the past twenty years. conceivably this may be a difference of style. [06:26]
mircea_popescu i simply do not care what those examples may be, i expect to be the example for them. [06:26]
mircea_popescu maybe in the end the story reduces to "i'm just uncurious enough" [06:27]
PeterL another example, I wanted to try to make homemade bagels, I type in the box "bagel recipe", and it gives me several sites with recipes to try. Clearly, these are not all of the same quality, but I only have to look through a couple to find one wotrh trying [06:28]
PeterL think from the other perspective, you say you are the example for things, how do people find your example to copy? Something like google can link them to you [06:30]
mircea_popescu but see, the only reason i could conceivably be interested in is because a woman made them and i liked. then i ask her, such as my mom, or the chick in the cofee shop, or whoever. i don't think i ever wanted to make a random item. [06:30]
mircea_popescu ah, sure. it can. it can also send them to paycoin, just as well. [06:30]
PeterL You ask at a restraunt for a recipe of their dish and they give you something? [06:31]
mircea_popescu not useful is like untrustworthy. doesn't mean "absolutely and in all cases zero use". it just means unreliable enough to be 0. [06:31]
mircea_popescu this actually happened. [06:31]
mircea_popescu (i rarely ask "gimme the recipe", because i'm actually sa pretty good cook. usually i ask "is this white sauce or what did you do ?!" [06:31]
mircea_popescu there's a difference between these two classes of questions, you know, like in tech support. [06:32]
PeterL another example, I am watching a movie and I want to know who the actor is. I google "cast of movie whatever", most likely it links to IMDB, I could have gone straight to IMBD, but it is easier to just start all searches from one place rather than trying to start at each individual site depending on the search [06:33]
mircea_popescu for this i usually go straight to imdb [06:34]
mircea_popescu tho i have homebrew talent, you know those people who know ALL THE ACTORS and ALL THE SONGS etc ? [06:34]
mircea_popescu anwyay, google as bookmark organizer, which is what you're describing, is about as useful as that goes, sure. could just as well use any other [06:35]
PeterL search google, click on what you want is two steps; go to site, search, maybe their search function works the way you expect is at least three steps [06:38]
mircea_popescu see the thing that started this discussion. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291886 [06:39]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 04:25:17; mircea_popescu: ;;google ilkka kokkarinen's piece re: glass [06:39]
mircea_popescu (and btw, i found it by typing se in myaddress bar which took me to search.bitcoin-assets.com/ rather than typing anything into google. because THIS always works and is way faster) [06:39]
mircea_popescu in short, google may perhaps maintain the illusion of utility for as long as the needs are superficial and stay that way.but if you're mostly looking for specific stuff and tend to go beyond the surface of things, it doesn't actually do anything whatever. [06:41]
mircea_popescu and right now, im doing (atypically) a foray into discussions of a topic im not particularly familiar with (indie game devel). i read upwards of fifty pages, i did not use google at any point throughout. because, here's the snatch : you try googling something to get you these results. [06:42]
mircea_popescu these results specifically : http://www.pixelprospector.com/the-big-list-of-indie-game-marketing/ [06:42]
assbot The Big List Of Indie Game Marketing | PixelProspector - the indie goldmine ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeG1I9 ) [06:42]
mircea_popescu even when i'm playing way out of field, google still fails. [06:43]
mircea_popescu and that said, i am probably in the top 1% when it comes to understanding the higher level issues involved, which means i canhammer together a search string like few others. so google would probably be lot more useful to me, were it to be useful at all, than to the general population. [06:45]
PeterL but the general population is ignorant and does not care to alleviate their ignorance, so google works for them. If they can't find it on google, it doesn't exist [06:47]
mircea_popescu this is all nice and good, but it still does not make it useful. [06:47]
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mircea_popescu the general population may be happy to pop sugar pills, but that doesn't make them medicine, right ? [06:47]
diana_coman these results specifically : http://www.pixelprospector.com/the-big-list-of-indie-game-marketing/ <- it's 2nd result returned for me on search: indie game marketing [06:48]
assbot The Big List Of Indie Game Marketing | PixelProspector - the indie goldmine ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeG1I9 ) [06:48]
diana_coman then again, I am NOT finding google useful to find information in general [06:48]
mircea_popescu diana_coman and would you rely on that ? [06:48]
diana_coman IF I have no choice but to start that way, I would afterwards check the source basically [06:48]
diana_coman so no [06:49]
mircea_popescu not like im saying it should be illegal or anything. [06:49]
mircea_popescu sugar pills ftw, for all i care. [06:49]
PeterL What would a useful search engine entail, or do you see that as even possible? [06:49]
diana_coman well, I think it might head that way, in the sense that it happened more than once that I searched for things with precise and specific keywords I knew were in there [06:49]
diana_coman and it did not find them [06:50]
mircea_popescu the original idea was superb, the pr thing. it's a great way to score a graph. [06:50]
diana_coman and when I got there I had been right, the key words were exactly as given etc [06:50]
mircea_popescu but then once people are aware of the scoring, you're lost and it's irredemable. [06:50]
diana_coman so it's broken for sure [06:50]
mircea_popescu i doubt the google problem is in any way different from the colored coins/ripple/ethereum problem, or generally "automated trust" issue. [06:51]
mircea_popescu so yes in this sense, google is here to supersede "smart contracts" or vice-versa, whatever. either way really, nonsense's nonsense. [06:51]
diana_coman it's still kind of ok for specific stuff, more like bookmarking kind of thing - I know what I'm searching for and roughly where it is, I just need the quick path to it (as in search on dl.acm for articles of X on topic Y or in journal Z) [06:52]
diana_coman assuming the guy doesn't have his own page updated for some reason [06:52]
mircea_popescu and then five years later you discover it hid for no reason one article out of 6 [06:53]
mircea_popescu and sadly that article could have saved you a year. [06:53]
diana_coman well, if the guy was an idiot and did not update his page, what can one do [06:54]
diana_coman the thing is that's usually just the start of something anyway [06:54]
diana_coman so it doesn't really matter if it hid 1 of 6 - if it is any good, it will be referenced anyway [06:55]
diana_coman so you need just a start on the web [06:55]
diana_coman the rest is discovered through connections anyway [06:55]
diana_coman whether it's that thread or the other one starts with, doesn't make a huge diff [06:55]
mircea_popescu mmmyeah. [06:55]
mircea_popescu the point of convenience, of course, and the humane way to do this, is where you know the people who'd have written articles on that topicanyway, so you put some bagels in the oven, ring them up, invite them over, and talk the matter through over wine. [06:56]
diana_coman well yes, but uhm, not really sure they'd come all the way from australia, nz and whatever else, every time [06:57]
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mircea_popescu +a week [06:57]
PeterL mircea_popescu has alot more pull to abscond interesting people than we do [07:00]
diana_coman fwiw I saw first-hand the horrible things google/search-reliance can do for lazy people too - there were some very sad (or laughable if so inclined) articles on Bitcoin in ACM magazine [07:00]
diana_coman not to mention some "research" [07:00]
diana_coman had some fun reading them [07:00]
diana_coman basically a uni professor who had no idea of the topic but just heard he had to say something on it [07:01]
diana_coman being important and all [07:01]
PeterL "I read it on the internet, it must be true!" [07:01]
diana_coman so he went and did a search [07:01]
mircea_popescu diana_coman that's the other thing. the odds of me giving two pre-compressed, freeze dried rat shits on the "article" of some random derp i dunno... hm. [07:01]
diana_coman no, he is a researcher so he knows about sources etc [07:01]
mircea_popescu yaya. [07:01]
mircea_popescu !s because that's how normal debates work [07:01]
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diana_coman just that he has the wrong ideas as to what is reliable source for btc [07:02]
mircea_popescu so he doesn't know about sources. [07:02]
diana_coman it turns out like that, yes, though he'd be surprised to find that out [07:02]
diana_coman from his point of view he cited only reputable stuff [07:02]
mircea_popescu also known as dunning-kruger syndrome. [07:02]
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mircea_popescu anyway. the original point ofthings likethe mit ai lab, or the xerox parc, or etc, was that people could grab each other by the tie in the hallway [07:04]
mircea_popescu hey, wait just a minute there! [07:05]
diana_coman well you can grab people by their irc nick I suppose, not really by the tie at any moment [07:05]
mircea_popescu i actually have great hope for the future ofthis system yes. [07:06]
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mircea_popescu anyway, my takeaway from teh reading is that s.mg should probably at least try and support steam. so if there's someone who actually has experience with this, talk to me. [07:13]
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mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/5f07354626cca4a93c9060645f59fa1c/tumblr_nj5l9cxM8e1tm7pnlo1_1280.jpg gamer chicks, ta na na [10:00]
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btcdrak Truth: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3nkg37/gavin_andresen_bitcoin_core_wont_make_the/cvouhs8 [11:48]
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btcdrak (not the title, but the comment I linked to lol) [11:48]
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mircea_popescu or for that matter... now. doh. [12:08]
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mircea_popescu !up ascii_field [12:12]
-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [12:12]
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mircea_popescu hola alfie. [12:12]
ascii_field ¿Qué tal? [12:13]
mircea_popescu :D! [12:13]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292085 << the mega-application for google is 1) error messages 2) lines of published code. [12:13]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 09:18:42; mircea_popescu: but in general, what sort of information do you obtain by putting words in a box ? suppose you search for "chicken broth" and they explain to you it's a heavy fuel oil. do you believe that ? [12:13]
ascii_field more or less 99% of my use, fwiw [12:14]
mircea_popescu ah yeah, there is that. [12:15]
mircea_popescu works fine for lines of code. i guess if i programmed more. [12:15]
ascii_field and don't forget crashes. [12:16]
mircea_popescu i live in the dirigible world past the horizon, my shit dun crash. [12:16]
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mircea_popescu (i really use very little software, and most of it either 30 years old or made by people i know) [12:17]
ascii_field ^same [12:18]
ascii_field but unlike mircea_popescu i sometimes have to vivisect it. [12:18]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292078 << there is, unfortunately, not. yandex is the closest to coming close. [12:20]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 09:07:08; PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291888 << is there a working alternative? [12:20]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291977 << everybody, from king to slave, wants to buy 1) an epsilon below 'market rate' 2) without usg logging [12:22]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 06:05:19; mircea_popescu: anyway, the ever more feverish pitch of desperation is lulzy. "sell bitcoin to me". dude... why the fuck would i be selling anything to you ? fuck you, your approval is not required, your desires don't matter, you're not being persuaded here. you're being raped. nobody gives a shit about your consent, let alone excitement to use bitcoin. you'll use it to survive, and marginally at tha [12:22]
ascii_field whereas the fiat-megamoneybag folks also want 3) without nudging market rate [12:23]
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mircea_popescu ascii_field no i meant, "sell it" as in, "convince me",. [12:55]
mircea_popescu http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/10/04/pictorial-essay-18-things-i-did-that-my-grand-kids-cant-do-without-someone-getting-arrested/ [12:56]
assbot Pictorial Essay: 18 Things I Did That My Grand-kids Can’t Do Without Someone Getting Arrested « The Burning Platform ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z3PE0A ) [12:57]
mircea_popescu "With these ca. 100.000 dls we made a whooping $162 in total. In other words form 100.000 people playing or at least downloading the game 127 in App Purchases were tracked by Apple, which means that 0.13% of our user base as paid something inside the App. Don’t get us wrong: We are thankful for those purchases and we hope that you enjoy our game, but to build a sustainable business this won’t get us very far as an [13:04]
mircea_popescu indie studio." [13:04]
ben_vulpes !s britney spears [13:05]
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ben_vulpes guten tag! [13:06]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292216 << appears to be down [13:06]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 15:55:34; mircea_popescu: http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/10/04/pictorial-essay-18-things-i-did-that-my-grand-kids-cant-do-without-someone-getting-arrested/ [13:06]
ascii_field guten tag herr vulpes ! [13:06]
mircea_popescu https://archive.is/vGrEC << maybe you';re just not allowed on heretic sites ascii_field ? [13:07]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RqW0BX ) [13:07]
mircea_popescu "I think it was great to get the game into the hands of a lot of people for free, even if it lost money for the studio. [13:08]
mircea_popescu Moving onto your next app, you should have a decent fan base who will be more willing paying up front for your game." [13:08]
mircea_popescu dude... fucking totally. [13:08]
mircea_popescu who the fuckgives a shit, obscure studio making obscure app on that old tablet thing you meanwhile lost. [13:08]
ascii_field 'I can actually remember when Looney Toons was yanked in favor of more PC Barney the dinosaur bullshit. I remember when I got sent home with a note explaining to my parents that my pocket knife no longer acceptable. I remember when I got sent home with a note explaining to my parents that my pocket knife no longer acceptable.' [13:09]
ascii_field ^ mega-l0l [13:09]
mircea_popescu "It's an interesting piece of info and it resonates a lot with the issues and choices I and to make with my game early this year. I can see how those numbers could be discouraging but I kind of agree with Sven, they are not that bad." [13:09]
mircea_popescu ascii_field "i remember when stalin was cool" [13:10]
ascii_field stalin has never been cooler than today. [13:10]
ascii_field ask any kid in ru [13:10]
mircea_popescu hm [13:11]
ascii_field (well perhaps not ~any~ - but certainly it is more of a thing than the 'multi-coloured pill' business in gringolandia) [13:12]
mircea_popescu a, sure [13:12]
mircea_popescu http://www.streamingcolour.com/blog/2009/03/09/the-numbers-post-aka-brutal-honesty/ ah, the industree five years ago. [13:21]
assbot The Numbers Post (aka Brutal Honesty) « Streaming Colour Studios ... ( http://bit.ly/1RqXIU8 ) [13:21]
mircea_popescu 2009, back when apple istore was worth less than a bar. [13:21]
mircea_popescu and strangly there wasn't a reddit icrapple dedicated to mocking the funbux. [13:21]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292050 << me. 8+ yrs. [13:21]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 06:38:13; mircea_popescu: o btw, do you have a reddit acct that's aged enough to make subreddits ? [13:21]
ascii_field it still works. [13:21]
mircea_popescu o hey [13:22]
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ben_vulpes search'll need redoing on top of the wot as well. [13:33]
mircea_popescu http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-05/useful-prep-sheet-syria-media-propagandists [13:33]
assbot A Useful Prep-Sheet On Syria For Media Propagandists | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1RqZbtB ) [13:33]
mircea_popescu nb [13:33]
mircea_popescu 1) Keep mentioning the barrel bombs. [13:33]
mircea_popescu [13:33]
mircea_popescu Do not mention how their use was pioneered by the Israeli Air Force in 1948, and how they were used by the US Air Force in Vietnam in Operation Inferno in 1968. Keep repeating, “barrel bombs, barrel bombs” and stating with a straight face that the Syrian regime is using them “against its own people.” Against its own people. Against its own people. Against its own people. [13:33]
mircea_popescu kinda like spam, these people. [13:33]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 13,900 before December 31st - http://bitbet.us/bet/1211/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/#b7 [13:41]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to drop under $190 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1210/bitcoin-to-drop-under-190-before-jan-2016/#b9 [13:41]
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deedbot- [Qntra] Vessenes' Foundation Drops Sponsorship of Node Explorer - http://qntra.net/2015/10/vessenes-foundation-drops-sponsorship-of-node-explorer/ [15:47]
deedbot- [Qntra] USMS Schedules Final Silk Road Auction - http://qntra.net/2015/10/usms-schedules-final-silk-road-auction/ [15:58]
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BingoBoingo http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/sources-say-tension-with-dolphins-had-been-mounting-for-weeks-in-practice/ [16:08]
assbot Sources say tension with Dolphins had been mounting for weeks in practice | National Football Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbsxrn ) [16:08]
BingoBoingo http://www.dailydot.com/politics/4chan-school-threat-philadelphia/ [16:09]
assbot FBI warns Philadelphia universities over 4chan post ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbsBra ) [16:09]
gabrielradio http://www.puntersverdict.co.uk/articles/october-2015/Is-the-bookie-making-a-brain-dead-moron-out-of-you.php << meanwhile in fiat betting [16:10]
assbot Is the bookie making a brain dead moron out of you? ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbsCLC ) [16:10]
gabrielradio "In Betfred’s own words the ACCAttacka has ‘reinvigorated the weekend football acca selection process with style & substance in equal measure.’ [...] ACCAttacka innovation means you can simply log into your Betfred mobile account, select a desired bet stake, outline the amount of money you would like to win and then sit back and let the Betfred software build you a potential winning accumulator" [16:11]
gabrielradio bitbet needs to get in on the action [16:12]
danielpbarron bitbet is the exact opposite of that model, if I'm reading it correctly [16:13]
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mircea_popescu 4chan gets troll crown [16:35]
mircea_popescu gabrielradio ya think ? [16:36]
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mircea_popescu an' in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/f34976c621f9f4c4102de6929352e4a4/tumblr_nj5es7Fd581qmb3uno1_1280.jpg [16:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27092 @ 0.00042012 = 11.3819 BTC [+] {2} [16:38]
thestringpuller who need .bait when mircea_popescu is around [16:55]
gabrielradio mircea_popescu not really. thinking about it, it's kinda the same thing as sdice. choose odds, send btc, roll the dice. only with a much larger -ev [16:55]
BingoBoingo The problem when dealing with Brain Dead morons though is it requires an entire infrastructure to minimize the cost of interactions with them [16:57]
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BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/federal-judge-says-st-louis-lawyers-conduct-ethically-troubling/article_5797dfad-86bd-5cc3-9dd6-c8d35297662e.html [17:06]
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BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/ImAyCaa.png [17:51]
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ascii_field https://cryptome.org/2015/10/usg-mil-ukraine.pdf >> l0ltr0nic >> http://dpaste.com/20QDW8P.txt [18:19]
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mircea_popescu http://www.infowars.com/pissforequality-feminists-fall-for-4chan-troll-campaign-by-peeing-themselves/ [18:26]
assbot » #PissForEquality: Feminists Fall For 4Chan Troll Campaign by Peeing Themselves Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pfy9WW ) [18:26]
mircea_popescu almost like 4chan is back or something. [18:26]
ascii_field the real question is why it had to be done in the bathroom [18:29]
ascii_field (does it matter where?) [18:29]
ascii_field and the positions of the stains... [18:30]
ascii_field at least one appears to have sat down? [18:30]
mircea_popescu i have nfi what goes through these people's heads/ [18:30]
ascii_field '3rd wave feminism has become synonymous with outlandish preoccupations like manspreading, trigger warnings, safe spaces, slut walks and free bleeding, while genuine threats to women’s rights – particularly in Islamic countries – continue to be ignored.' << ahahahha [18:31]
ascii_field free bleeding! [18:31]
mircea_popescu what is that ? [18:31]
ascii_field described in link [18:31]
mircea_popescu apparently i skim too much. [18:31]
mircea_popescu tbh slut walks not bad idea. one spot where i and teh derpeminists see eye to eye [18:32]
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ascii_field https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-buzz/adult-diapers-surprising-trend-among-japanese-women-172721799.html << linked. [18:35]
assbot Adult diapers a surprising new trend among Japanese women | Daily Buzz - Yahoo News Canada ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfyI2J ) [18:35]
mircea_popescu http://joostdevblog.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/proun-is-big-success-pay-what-you-want.html << vaguely interesting, another piece of the "people should never get any options" puzzle. [18:38]
assbot Joost's Dev Blog: Proun sales data revealed: Proun is a big success! Pay What You Want is not! ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfyPve ) [18:38]
mircea_popescu diapers has been going for 30 years. [18:38]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: for civilians ?! [18:38]
mircea_popescu yeah. [18:38]
mircea_popescu for late teens/early 20s women that have trouble maturing. match made in heaven with jaded blue collar / low prof late 40s males. [18:39]
mircea_popescu they get a daddy-little relationship, she wears diapers, he does handiwork, it's perhaps the most functional couple of the western world. [18:39]
ascii_field linked article described the diapers being purely a convenience/laziness thing - e.g., in casino, office workers avoiding toilet break [18:40]
ascii_field so it'd be an 'advance' [18:41]
ascii_field (fetishist diapers have been around for eons, yes) [18:41]
mircea_popescu what people say and what people do is you know. [18:41]
ascii_field sure. [18:42]
ascii_field 'Anderson refused to cooperate with prosecutors unless the CIA was present. Anderson wanted to be released from jail, Rosenblum said in court, and “he would literally lead (Davis) to warship-sized cargo of hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars; he could lead Mr. Davis to connections in the Middle East involving pharaohs and kings.”' << win [18:44]
mircea_popescu ... [18:45]
ascii_field ( http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292286 ) [18:46]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 20:05:10; BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/federal-judge-says-st-louis-lawyers-conduct-ethically-troubling/article_5797dfad-86bd-5cc3-9dd6-c8d35297662e.html [18:46]
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mircea_popescu ironically enough, eulora IS technically "pay what you want". [18:47]
mircea_popescu o btw, you sending me stuff ascii_field ? [18:47]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: yes! when i finally get home. a few hours from now. [18:48]
mircea_popescu cool. [18:48]
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ascii_field https://cryptome.org/wtc/wtc-photos.htm [18:56]
assbot World Trade Center Photographs 3 October 2001 ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfzP2G ) [18:56]
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ascii_field http://cryptome.org/wtc/wtc052.jpg << what is the purpose of the curtain? (appears in several other shots) [19:01]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfA51r ) [19:01]
cazalla reduce dust blowing about? [19:02]
BingoBoingo Apparently Linus has not been sufficiently emasculated yet. Rabbel Rouser returns with nuetering shears again https://archive.is/052Xw [19:03]
assbot Closing a door | The Geekess ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfAcKC ) [19:03]
ascii_field ' I did not want to work professionally with people who were allowed to get away with subtle sexist or homophobic jokes. I feel powerless in a community that had a “Code of Conflict” without a specific list of behaviors to avoid and a community with no teeth to enforce it." [19:05]
ascii_field mega-l0l [19:05]
ascii_field 'I have the right to replace any comment I feel like with “fart fart fart fart”. ' << win [19:05]
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ascii_field someone should teach this woman about the piss-pants-for-justice campaign. [19:06]
ascii_field https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahannsharp << mega-w1nn3r [19:07]
assbot Sarah Sharp | LinkedIn ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfAmS8 ) [19:07]
ascii_field 'Open Source Technology Center, Intel Corporation' << a little like 'adolf eichmann center for judaism' [19:07]
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ben_vulpes person in question made an appearance at $rokkitclub as well on the same topic. [19:10]
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ben_vulpes $rokkitclub collectively blinked in confusion and carried on with tricks [19:11]
ben_vulpes same club is gently discouraged from letting foreign students near the code and plans [19:12]
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ben_vulpes this leads to a stush that quickly dies down every 3-5 years [19:12]
pete_dushenski ascii_field a little like 'adolf eichmann center for judaism' << heh. [19:13]
pete_dushenski or the 'king tut's centre for kids who can't read good' [19:14]
pete_dushenski "The Fast Lane Car tried to sketch some answers by going to a shop in Denver, Colorado to run a 2011 Jetta TDI with a six-speed DSG transmission on an all-wheel-drive dyno. The thinking was that if you ran all four wheels the car would think it was on the road, whereas if you ran only two the car might think it's being tested. We'll get straight to the numbers: the stock sedan is quoted at 140 horsepower and 236 [19:16]
pete_dushenski pound-feet of torque. When run with all four wheels turning it produced an uncorrected 114 hp and 214 lb-ft at the wheels. When run with just two wheels in motion the Jetta got 113 hp and 188 lb-ft at the wheels. Reading the graph, we're told that power differences between the two runs were as much as 15 hp and 32 lb-ft." [19:16]
pete_dushenski inb4 no one "fixes" their vw diesels [19:16]
pete_dushenski it's like a recall on male foreskin [19:17]
BingoBoingo "Rascal Scooter Center for Nutrition Studies" [19:17]
pete_dushenski 'oh, we told the regulators that you were circumcized and they found out that you actually weren't. please visit your nearest stealership so we can right this terrible wrong.' [19:17]
ascii_field at this point even microshit's open sourceism record beats intel's. [19:18]
ascii_field (yes! laugh if you will, but 'visual studio' for linux! and c# !) [19:18]
BingoBoingo http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/60866-female-devs-outburst-against-torvalds-was-planned [19:19]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292160 << hot damn i have to start doing this. inquiring minds would love a list of List of People Kidnapped By MP This Week And What They Taught Him. also, does argentina actually have a dozen ppl worth mircea_popescu's time ~every~ week ? [19:20]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 09:56:10; *: mircea_popescu does a dozen or more of these "so let me run this by you" citizen arrests things. [19:20]
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pete_dushenski http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/750x422/quality/95/http://www.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/364/791/6/S3647916/slug/l/land-rover-range-rover-evoque-convertible-wireframes-002-1.jpg << very neat marketing. (yes, irl wireframe!) [19:23]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfBepG ) [19:23]
kakobrekla great use of parking space [19:25]
pete_dushenski also great for smog reduction [19:26]
kakobrekla by making the drivers search for parking longer? [19:27]
pete_dushenski by selling fashionistas cars that don't even run :) [19:29]
* pete_dushenski just unwrapped, fresh off the boat from new delhi, his copy of 'the art of not being governed' [19:29]
BingoBoingo https://archive.is/O9vqB#selection-2617.0-2621.186 << Fuck, now hams are copying the 4chaners [19:33]
assbot overview for thefuckedupking ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfBHIH ) [19:33]
cazalla BingoBoingo, the funny thing about infowars publishing 4chan trolls is that infowars published 4chan trolls it thought to be real (katrina loot crew) [19:35]
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pete_dushenski "American Apparel Inc, known as much for its sexually charged advertising and controversial founder as for its fashion offerings, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection Monday" << this is what 'made in american sweatshops' buys you. $20.5 mn of 'value' and $300 mn in debt. [19:43]
pete_dushenski so much for american industry competing with asian industry. [19:44]
ben_vulpes wahahahahaha [19:53]
BingoBoingo cazalla: I though the loot crew actually happened, even though the hashtag was a troll [19:54]
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pete_dushenski ;;ticker [19:56]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 241.61, Best ask: 241.88, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 241.6, 24 hour volume: 11217.83812713, 24 hour low: 236.24, 24 hour high: 241.99, 24 hour vwap: None [19:56]
pete_dushenski o hey back in the '40s. just like mpoe... [19:56]
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pete_dushenski 'list of List of' << hah. oops. [20:10]
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adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292014 < http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-09-2015#1279671 [20:10]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 06:21:55; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291759 << crystal ballin' now ? what is this 'due' business ? [20:10]
assbot Logged on 19-09-2015 15:38:06; mircea_popescu: dividing the mkt cap by the mkt volume roughly yields the "empty hopes" factor. [20:10]
cazalla BingoBoingo, i think it did, but the pictures were reused for a fake loot crew during some other event to troll alex jones into reporting it as fact [20:12]
pete_dushenski adlai mpex is empty hopes ? [20:12]
* adlai notes that since volume's dimension is assets/time, "hope" is measured in... time [20:12]
adlai pete_dushenski: no, but some asset holders might've had hopes which were unrealizable over the required timeframe [20:13]
cazalla BingoBoingo, https://encyclopediadramatica.se/SANDYLOOTCREW there we go, had my 4chans and gnaa's mixed up [20:13]
assbot #SANDYLOOTCREW - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( http://bit.ly/1FQpXuh ) [20:13]
pete_dushenski adlai guess so eh [20:14]
BingoBoingo Ah ic [20:14]
adlai imagine if Mr 80ksat had been able to spread out his hope of mpoenership over a couple months longer. market would look totally different today. [20:14]
pete_dushenski indeed. [20:16]
pete_dushenski !s from:adlai !rate [20:16]
assbot 9 results for 'from:adlai !rate' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aadlai+%21rate [20:16]
ben_vulpes ooh i love this thread [20:17]
pete_dushenski "-1 pete_dushenski 1.0 22 362 Sep 19, 2015 drama queen http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=drama+queen" << only on btcalpha then, eh adlai [20:18]
assbot 7 results for 'drama queen"' - #bitcoin-assets search [20:18]
adlai !rated pete_dushenski [20:18]
assbot You rated user pete_dushenski on 19-Sep-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: drama queen http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=drama+queen. [20:18]
pete_dushenski lol +1 ?? then why am i seeing -1 ? [20:18]
adlai hard problem #2 [20:18]
pete_dushenski adlai so it was supposed to be +1 ? [20:19]
ben_vulpes !gettrust adlai pete_dushenski [20:19]
assbot Trust relationship from user adlai to user pete_dushenski: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=adlai&to=pete_dushenski | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/pete_dushenski/ [20:20]
pete_dushenski if so, there go all my crank theories, right out the window ! [20:20]
adlai actually it seems to be #1! http://martinfowler.com/bliki/TwoHardThings.html [20:20]
assbot TwoHardThings ... ( http://bit.ly/1FQqwUR ) [20:20]
pete_dushenski "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems: 2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery -- Mathias Verraes" [20:21]
pete_dushenski i lolled [20:21]
adlai somebody get mathias a pogo [20:22]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell mike_c some discrepancy here: http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=adlai&to=pete_dushenski and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292407 [20:23]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:23]
assbot WoT Trust - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1KWXgdQ ) [20:23]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 23:16:51; assbot: You rated user pete_dushenski on 19-Sep-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: drama queen http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=drama+queen. [20:23]
adlai such drama [20:24]
pete_dushenski so much for my fun ;/ [20:24]
adlai much fun [20:24]
pete_dushenski https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/Bitcoin%20XT:0.11.0/ << '279' xt nodez. how many 'half-dollar aws instances' is left as an exercise to the reader. [20:26]
assbot Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1KWXsKc ) [20:26]
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pete_dushenski and speaking of wowz and suches and muches and scamcoins, i just checked the chart for dogecoin and it's really surprisingly stable. also noted that $50-100k of the crap trades hands on a daily basis. then again, could be some dogederps trading with himself all day. [20:28]
adlai which exchange? [20:29]
pete_dushenski data was from coinmarketcap [20:30]
pete_dushenski seems to aggregate several exchanges. [20:30]
pete_dushenski o hey eth -7% today. [20:31]
adlai yes, i'm not trusting that ~23% from cryptsy, it's essentially holding funds hostage by blowing up the transfer fees [20:32]
adlai nfc about this 'btc38' [20:32]
pete_dushenski can't say i've heard of 'btc38' before either [20:35]
pete_dushenski well, we have some folks dropping by shortly so ima make some waves ! [20:37]
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BingoBoingo Oh ivermectin and artemisinin won the nobel prize for medicine this year [20:39]
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ben_vulpes my money's on btcalpha sucking in ratings from #b-a feed [20:45]
ben_vulpes which raises a problem i spotted a while back and didn't raise, which is that ratings are not independently verifiable. [20:45]
ben_vulpes worst case scenario, unless the standard is verifiability, #bitcoin-jesters could cause all sortsa problems trying to federate their wot into this one. [20:46]
ben_vulpes imho (and i'm always wrong, it's cool bru) it should be possible to reconstruct the current state of the wot from a log of !rate's and !v's [20:47]
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ben_vulpes shesek: your ip is leaking [21:00]
mircea_popescu https://archive.is/052Xw <<< o hey, sharp finally found her way out ? this is good for linux. [21:12]
assbot Closing a door | The Geekess ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfAcKC ) [21:12]
mircea_popescu "Mircea Popescu on October 5, 2015 at 5:17 pm said: [21:18]
mircea_popescu Your comment is awaiting moderation. [21:18]
mircea_popescu Good riddance. [21:18]
mircea_popescu You were the only toxic thing in that entire story. Hopefully your failure informs other women, at a young age when they confront the choice of whether to be sarah-sharp-toxic or productive members of society, and they choose to not be sarah-sharp-toxic. [21:18]
mircea_popescu Meanwhile, the only thing you will be remembered for is your noxious quality." [21:18]
mircea_popescu somehow i suspek it ain't getting published, but anyway. [21:18]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292365 << lol. i have yet to meet an argentinian that would be qualified to finish highschool. fortunately, online's a thing. [21:24]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 22:19:23; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292160 << hot damn i have to start doing this. inquiring minds would love a list of List of People Kidnapped By MP This Week And What They Taught Him. also, does argentina actually have a dozen ppl worth mircea_popescu's time ~every~ week ? [21:24]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292364 << of course it was fucking planned. the cockroaches don't do anything without a lot of sitting around and chanting alinsky at each other [21:25]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 22:18:16; BingoBoingo: http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/60866-female-devs-outburst-against-torvalds-was-planned [21:25]
mircea_popescu for a few days at least. [21:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34454 @ 0.00041 = 14.1261 BTC [-] [21:26]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292416 << i lolled [21:30]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 23:20:01; pete_dushenski: "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems: 2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery -- Mathias Verraes" [21:30]
deedbot- [Qntra] Bharara Snubbed By Supreme Court - http://qntra.net/2015/10/bharara-snubbed-by-supreme-court/ [21:30]
BingoBoingo ^ Preet continues being ejected by the system which grew him [21:31]
mircea_popescu heh. [21:32]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292441 << this is a complex problem. it's unclear why third party should even be able to verify ratings. [21:32]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 23:46:29; ben_vulpes: imho (and i'm always wrong, it's cool bru) it should be possible to reconstruct the current state of the wot from a log of !rate's and !v's [21:32]
mircea_popescu if you don't know me, i don't see why you have any right or any permission to use my ratings of someone else. [21:32]
mircea_popescu if you do know me, you can verify them. [21:33]
BingoBoingo From the "I'm not sure if the fundamently misunderstanding is even being misunderstood" department http://qntra.net/2015/10/vessenes-foundation-drops-sponsorship-of-node-explorer/#comment-63937 [21:35]
assbot Vessenes' Foundation Drops Sponsorship of Node Explorer | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1KX2xSS ) [21:35]
mircea_popescu from the "we are young, we're free, why don't you sleep with me" department, http://41.media.tumblr.com/1b28ccdf0aeb0e6a237b388aa7aeafa9/tumblr_njnlik7Eb21qmb3uno1_1280.jpg [21:37]
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asciilifeform aaah. [21:58]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292464 << insert the great gossipd thread here ! [22:01]
assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 00:31:17; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292441 << this is a complex problem. it's unclear why third party should even be able to verify ratings. [22:01]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292462 << all i see here is 'don't meddle in the affairs of lizards' [22:02]
assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 00:30:29; BingoBoingo: ^ Preet continues being ejected by the system which grew him [22:02]
asciilifeform wake me up when they let a preeted plebe go. [22:02]
asciilifeform e.g. ulbricht [22:02]
* BingoBoingo watching for that [22:02]
asciilifeform will be waitin' long time. [22:02]
BingoBoingo These people weren't exactly of the "scaled" class [22:03]
asciilifeform i've yet to see a fella who works for a living accused of 'insider trade'. [22:03]
mircea_popescu mostly because you work in sweatshop C rather than sweatshop A. [22:04]
asciilifeform zoolag F actually [22:04]
asciilifeform right next door to E. [22:05]
BingoBoingo These were more aspiring lizards. [22:05]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292426 << iirc hearn ordered that his nodez lie about version [22:06]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 23:24:43; pete_dushenski: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/Bitcoin%20XT:0.11.0/ << '279' xt nodez. how many 'half-dollar aws instances' is left as an exercise to the reader. [22:06]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292416 << >> 'there are two hard things: titanic nonproblem A and astonishing irrelevancy B !' [22:07]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 23:20:01; pete_dushenski: "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems: 2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery -- Mathias Verraes" [22:07]
asciilifeform how i loathe these 'deep thought' wankatronicists. [22:07]
mircea_popescu he wants to do p2p rpc [22:07]
asciilifeform straight to urbit. [22:07]
asciilifeform but srsly, who the everliving fuck cares how many times a message is delivered ! [22:08]
mircea_popescu no, this one's with aeroplanes. [22:08]
asciilifeform or in what order [22:08]
asciilifeform (if you insist on enforcing order, do it cryptographically) [22:08]
asciilifeform how is this a problem of any kind. [22:08]
* mircea_popescu sets alf up for 1trn deliveries of the exact time [22:09]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292428 << 'that is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange eons' even scamz may die [22:11]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 23:27:06; pete_dushenski: and speaking of wowz and suches and muches and scamcoins, i just checked the chart for dogecoin and it's really surprisingly stable. also noted that $50-100k of the crap trades hands on a daily basis. then again, could be some dogederps trading with himself all day. [22:11]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292441 << afaik there is no hard-crypto record of the logz (beyond snippets some of us may be willing to sign) [22:12]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 23:46:29; ben_vulpes: imho (and i'm always wrong, it's cool bru) it should be possible to reconstruct the current state of the wot from a log of !rate's and !v's [22:12]
asciilifeform iirc mircea_popescu wrote something re: how he wants wot as a very fluid and informal animal that can't be 'optimized against' [22:14]
asciilifeform ergo no verify unless you're phriendz with the rater [22:14]
danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292419 << you can rate in private too, ya know [22:27]
assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 23:22:35; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mike_c some discrepancy here: http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=adlai&to=pete_dushenski and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292407 [22:27]
asciilifeform http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/rt-is-a-mock-up-of-the-real-thing/535896.html << tr0l0l0l [22:27]
assbot RT Is a Mock-Up of the Real Thing | Opinion | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmPEqg ) [22:27]
asciilifeform (yes it was translated ~back~ to engl. just for extra l0l tonnage) [22:27]
asciilifeform http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/nato-denounces-unacceptable-russian-incursion-into-turkey/536980.html << m0ar lulz from same fishwrap. [22:29]
assbot NATO Denounces 'Unacceptable' Russian Incursion Into Turkey | News | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmPP54 ) [22:29]
asciilifeform 'Konstantin Sonin, a columnist for Vedomosti, is a professor at the University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy Studies and the Higher School of Economics in Moscow.' << so apparently they haven't purged ~all~ the vermin quite yet. [22:30]
asciilifeform https://cryptome.org/dodi/2015/opnav-5510-165a.pdf >> http://dpaste.com/3MPNQHF.txt >> mega-l0l! [22:36]
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asciilifeform will there be an insider-threat-division in the insider-threat-division ?! [22:37]
asciilifeform how many levels of stack has the u.s. navy ? [22:37]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Probably Joe levels of Stack [22:58]
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asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu you've got mailz! [23:50]
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