Forum logs for 25 Sep 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: and i suppose the evident similarity between dirac delta and "whichever unnamed abstractions you support your estimation of string theory" is also striking to you ? [00:00]
mircea_popescu: (schwartz above is laurent schwartz, provided an elegant translation of the non-functional nature of dirac's delta by using distribution limits to model it) [00:01]
asciilifeform: the difference is also imho obvious [00:01]
mircea_popescu: what's it ? [00:01]
asciilifeform: ( the string orchestra not only dun give a flying fuck re parsimony, but quite the opposite , complexity cancer deliberately cultured, breeds grantolade for mediocrities ) [00:02]
mircea_popescu: but this is a political consideration. [00:02]
mircea_popescu: should be applied against people not against things. [00:02]
asciilifeform: there is no separability of the political. [00:02]
mircea_popescu: there is in this sense. if "alcohol" "leads people into sin", then those led into sin are to be hanged but alcohol not condemned. [00:03]
asciilifeform: i am not convinced of there being involvement of 'things' : strings have not even the reality anchor of phlogiston. [00:03]
asciilifeform: are ~= 'privilegism' [00:04]
mircea_popescu: they're abstract things [00:04]
asciilifeform: unanchored abstractions, like in schizo patient. [00:04]
mircea_popescu: but those are also still things. [00:04]
mircea_popescu: not concrete in any sense and not meaningful either, but still. [00:04]
asciilifeform: and unlike in schizo patient, crafted with clear political angle. [00:05]
mircea_popescu: "things that i can fuck", "things that i can understand", "things i can talk about". many kinds of things. [00:05]
asciilifeform: there is also 'things that, if loaded into a head, make it stupider' [00:06]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dirac's delta, aslo crafted with clear political angle : to exclude non-diracians from so-and-so set of benches. [00:06]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i put it to you, that if such a thing should exist, the head is at fault not the thing. [00:06]
mircea_popescu: do also there exist "bad data" known by that fact that "if put into computer, break it" ? fix the fucking code. [00:07]
mircea_popescu: obscenity laws, banned books, political correctness, antivirus corps etc are all the sorry product of the contrary view. [00:07]
asciilifeform: the basic sin in strings is same as in microshit and elsewhere: rejection of parsimony [00:10]
asciilifeform: that way lies daemonology and nothing else. [00:10]
mircea_popescu: so you'll settle on "dirac's delta visibly parsimonious string theory not so visibly if at all" ? [00:10]
asciilifeform: aha [00:11]
mircea_popescu: makes sense. [00:11]
asciilifeform: at least was obvious attempt. at parsimony. [00:12]
mircea_popescu: i suppose this actually enacts a fundamental of "parsimony" in estimation of all ideal objects. [00:12]
mircea_popescu: "do it or else alf won't like it and mp won't defend you and what else is there for you." [00:12]
asciilifeform: 'do it or you ain't even thinking, but fermenting' [00:12]
mircea_popescu: that also. [00:13]
mircea_popescu: very literally true, too. the act of fermentation as a thermodynamic process is correctly modelled as an increase in entropy ie exactly "that way lies demonology" [00:13]
mircea_popescu: system becomes more complex over time at a steady rate based on temperature / gates' worthless money input. [00:14]
mircea_popescu: exaclty as per the above "ants doing mango pulp powered research" [00:14]
asciilifeform: they're crankin' out LPUs, wat [00:15]
asciilifeform: troo hardworkers, candidates for tenure. [00:15]
mircea_popescu: indisputably. [00:15]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : each and everyone politician abscam put in jail (bout 30 or so) were... democrats. the party of corruption survived! [05:19]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/prince-of-the-city/ << Trilema - Prince of the City [05:29]
mircea_popescu: aand in yet more lulz : cancer incidence increased in us adolescents by a steady 0.5 - 0.6% per year, each year, since 1975. [05:43]
mircea_popescu: GOOD THING THEY STOPPED 2ND HAND SMOKING!!! [05:43]
BingoBoingo: Oh, qntra seems not up from here [11:41]
diana_coman: seems down from here too fwiw [11:42]
trinque: dns error on my end. IP up? [11:43]
shinohai: I can't reach qntra either, get SERVFAIL reply [11:46]
lobbes: DNS error on my end as well [11:50]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-25-sep-2017#2342238 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714469 [12:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-25 15:41 BingoBoingo: Oh, qntra seems not up from here [12:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 21:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714333 << much chance of survival, seeing how a state of necessity was just declared, and absent servers there's no digital. [12:25]
mircea_popescu: as they say back at teh idle ranch, "it's only been ten days, what, that's not even two weeks (tm)!!!" [12:25]
asciilifeform: dulap is up, fwiw [12:38]
mircea_popescu: ahaha. [12:39]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-24#1716863 << same place, you realise. [12:40]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-24 16:41 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, CAN YOU FUCKING BELIEVE phuctor is still on ? [12:40]
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : google spent a quarter billion dollars worth of its govt's printouts on "corporate diversity". the results are not exactly zero [12:41]
mircea_popescu: in the sense that apparently there's less black chix coding at google now than before. [12:41]
mircea_popescu: leaving aside https://www.dhillonlaw.com/blog/news/have-you-experienced-illegal-employment-practices-at-google/ lulz [12:41]
mircea_popescu: (tldr : nigger jew faggots at google conspired to hinder anyone not of nigger jew faggot political persuasions.) [12:42]
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz from elaine ou : "ripple", which apparently is an entity that scammed wall street "investors" out of 55mn "investment" managed to write "R3" which is a sort of nothing in particular an XRP option worth supposedly a billion (admitting ripple the fake coin is worth anything) and while they can't back out of it, there's legal wrangling lulz : https://elaineou.com/2017/09/20/r3-should-just-buy-ripple/ [12:45]
shinohai: It will soar in value to a whole 25 cents per!!!!! [12:46]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-25#1717002 << well yes same place, hence oddity [12:47]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-25 16:40 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-24#1716863 << same place, you realise. [12:47]
asciilifeform: re qntra, i get a ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED -- which is not consistent with the 'box finally thrown out' picture [12:55]
mircea_popescu: yes if the local zone is deleted. [12:56]
asciilifeform: hm yea [12:56]
mircea_popescu: was 46.166.170.207 dun respond [12:57]
* mircea_popescu shall bbl. [12:57]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [13:12]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3914.98, vol: 13514.60247765 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3908.7, vol: 37620.46954242 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3805.2, vol: 1318.80590000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3913.6, vol: 4258.15951396 | Volume-weighted last average: 3908.15761558 [13:12]
trinque: but the chicoms banned bitcoin? [13:26]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-24#1716874 << this is neato btw [13:32]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-24 22:51 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-22#1716721 << tests so far look great http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/e6fuo/?raw=true awaiting the full 1gb and then I'll publish results. [13:32]
BingoBoingo: !!up cruciform [13:36]
deedbot: cruciform voiced for 30 minutes. [13:36]
cruciform: hi! I'm having trouble self-voicing with deedbot [13:36]
cruciform: I've registered my key, but it won't let me !!up [13:36]
trinque: !!rate cruciform 1 New blood. [13:37]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IiHuI/?raw=true [13:37]
trinque: !!v 81E30B82ECBDFE45C9F242FA25D0A46CA3735FEE944CA3D7450C0B4956576428 [13:37]
deedbot: trinque rated cruciform 1 << New blood. [13:37]
trinque: !!gettrust deedbot cruciform [13:37]
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 1 by 1 connections. [13:37]
cruciform: thanks! [13:37]
trinque: cruciform: give it a try now. [13:37]
trinque: !!down [13:37]
trinque: lol, whoops. [13:38]
trinque: !!down cruciform [13:38]
asciilifeform: btw did i ever print the rated power consumption of a FUCKGOATS ? [13:44]
asciilifeform: it's 80mA @ 5v . [13:44]
asciilifeform: ( average, naturally ) [13:44]
asciilifeform: in practice, this means that an unpowered usb hub should be able to support 6 of'em without problems. [13:46]
mod6: that's what you use to test in parallel right? [13:48]
asciilifeform: mod6: i typically use powered hubs [13:48]
asciilifeform: one of the items i am currently working on is a fully-automatic FG tester [13:48]
asciilifeform: at the moment, the process is only semi-automatic. [13:48]
asciilifeform: linux kernel ( all the varieties i've tried ) seems to have a serious ( and wholly undocumented ) problem with > 7 serial devices . [13:53]
asciilifeform: transfer rate on 8th and above, slows to a kB/s or so [13:54]
asciilifeform: ( where the buffered bits go -- devil only knows ) [13:54]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> one of the items i am currently working on is a fully-automatic FG tester << ahh cool. [13:54]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> transfer rate on 8th and above, slows to a kB/s or so << ugh. [13:55]
asciilifeform: mod6: the interesting bit is the -- afaik -- total absence of public discussion. because -- evidently -- Only A Terrorist (tm)(r) would use 8+ serial devices on pc. [13:56]
mircea_popescu: who would you expect to use 8+, the usual appletard/tablethead/who exactly ? [14:11]
mircea_popescu: i expect more people complain of the chip color than of this. [14:11]
asciilifeform: appletard has problem even with 1 serialport [14:11]
mircea_popescu: so to him this seems heaven [14:12]
asciilifeform: ( iirc somebody here tried ) [14:12]
* mircea_popescu now trying guatemala's ron (colonial). [14:13]
mircea_popescu: tis exactly as i recall it from the mid 2000s. [14:13]
asciilifeform: the part i find interesting is that it is -- apparently -- impossible to use a current pc in the way, e.g., pdp11 was used - as box with two dozen + serial ttys hanging off [14:13]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty sure you could sit down a multi-usb hub unit in the card slot [14:14]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it dun work at rated speed [14:14]
asciilifeform: regardless of where you put the ports [14:14]
asciilifeform: kernel issue [14:14]
mircea_popescu: haven't trierd [14:15]
asciilifeform: i have a 9-port pcie card, same thing [14:15]
asciilifeform: iron serial ports apparently count towards the total [14:15]
asciilifeform: (not a usb-specific thing) [14:15]
mircea_popescu: tsk. [14:15]
asciilifeform: likely some idiocy in the interrupt handlers [14:16]
trinque: ^ wd [14:16]
cruciform: long time Windows derper - getting there! [14:17]
mircea_popescu: at any rate, if anyone cares : centenario anejo 25 yo (costa rica) > diplomatico r. exclusiva (venezuela) > colonial artesanal (guatemala) > centenario run of the bar > flor de cana (nicaragua). [14:18]
mircea_popescu: cruciform how did you end up here ? [14:18]
cruciform: I've been reading the logs+your guys' blogs [14:18]
shinohai: Is mircea_popescu sampling rums of CA ? [14:18]
mircea_popescu: shinohai aha. [14:18]
mircea_popescu: cruciform so what do you do ? [14:19]
* shinohai tried some Colonial Artesanal in Guatemala ..... [14:19]
cruciform: I look at cards and hope they're good [14:19]
mircea_popescu: the one with the leather corset for the bottleneck for some unknown reason ? [14:19]
mircea_popescu: cruciform where, like in macau ? [14:20]
cruciform: nah, Macau games have been bad for a while - London and LA, mostly [14:20]
shinohai: Yes mircea_popescu .... when one finishes the bottle lovely Guatemalan maidens tie it to your dick and ride .... xD [14:21]
mircea_popescu: i c [14:21]
cruciform: but I've been busy up until recently with the whole BCH nonsense [14:21]
mircea_popescu: heh [14:21]
cruciform: next up is transferring my BTC to some sane paper wallet solution - I've been using Armory thus far [14:22]
mircea_popescu: lol [14:22]
ben_vulpes: cruciform: didja catch the armory fail? [14:22]
asciilifeform: London and LA << you wouldn't by any chance know the fella in old thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-01#1709226 ? [14:22]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 21:41 Barbarossa_: I'm a professsional poker player from the UK [14:22]
cruciform: and after the SSS botching, I need to change the setup [14:22]
mircea_popescu: every step of the way huh. [14:22]
cruciform: yea, that's me [14:22]
asciilifeform: cruciform == Barbarossa_ ? [14:22]
asciilifeform: aite [14:22]
cruciform: yea [14:22]
cruciform: I read Pete's guide to bitaddress.org [14:23]
cruciform: but I'm not qualified to audit the code of that site [14:23]
cruciform: http://www.contravex.com/2014/03/14/on-making-high-entropy-bitcoin-paper-wallets/ is this still the way to go? [14:24]
asciilifeform: i'm partial to well-made electric rng [14:24]
cruciform: I'll be ordering a FG soon got some casino dice for now [14:25]
cruciform: it's just that bitaddress.org is a black box to me [14:25]
mircea_popescu: lol soon eh ? [14:26]
asciilifeform: running crypto routines via browser is monumentally dumb idea [14:26]
cruciform: well, I'd like to get my BTC out of Armory ASAP [14:26]
asciilifeform: every time you visit a www pg, potentially you get something new. [14:26]
cruciform: gotcha, so how should one convert his entropy to BTC private keys? [14:27]
mircea_popescu: i imagine the idea with browser stuff is you just save the javascript. as close to "compile locally, fucktard" as the redditard generation can possibly get -- guaranteed success through a browser-compiler of approximately-integer language. [14:28]
shinohai: SoldierOfFortune: plox to fix your connection or get a bnc [14:48]
mircea_popescu: eh actually, why bother. [14:56]
shinohai: Well more than one way to skin a cat [14:57]
* asciilifeform chopped down an oak with an ordinary ax today, and inescapably thought of BingoBoingo's wurk [14:57]
mircea_popescu: ropes and errything ? [14:58]
asciilifeform: was maybe 6 m. tall, no rope [14:58]
asciilifeform: but oughta have done it back when it was a wire cutter job [14:58]
asciilifeform: there is some sort of moral here. [14:58]
mircea_popescu: ah. [14:58]
mircea_popescu: oak, you know, 6m AROUND. [14:58]
asciilifeform: we have one of those. from it, the 'weeds' grow. [14:58]
mircea_popescu: aha. [14:59]
mircea_popescu: oak encounter is actually how a lot of pine lumberjacks get fucked [14:59]
mircea_popescu: apparently it "doesn't fall correctly" or somesuch [14:59]
asciilifeform: and i finally can picture how [15:00]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> oak encounter is actually how a lot of pine lumberjacks get fucked << And collects dead limbs in canopy! [15:00]
asciilifeform: even based on this scale model [15:00]
asciilifeform: it has strong fibres, they sorta bend, it breaks not in the expected spot [15:00]
mircea_popescu: aha. [15:01]
BingoBoingo: tis a good property for reflecting cannonshot [15:03]
shinohai: Looks like the Weiner gets 21 months in a chastity cage. [15:06]
mircea_popescu: who ? [15:06]
BingoBoingo: Huma Abedin's husband [15:09]
ben_vulpes: "I wanted to see if he was still up to his old tricks" [15:09]
ben_vulpes: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-weiner-sentence-20170925-story.html [15:10]
BingoBoingo: "Cote acknowledged those efforts in her sentencing remarks. Still, she said, it was important to use his case as a deterrent to other would-be child abusers." [15:11]
ben_vulpes: i'm still waiting for the case where the sting agent claims to be 18 but then the dood gets locked up because he never checked her id or some shit and the agent was really playing a fifteen year old who was just pretending to be an eighteen year old [15:12]
mircea_popescu: it's... coming. [15:14]
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: That's all of them [15:15]
mircea_popescu: !#s ro15-4513 [15:40]
a111: 0 results for "ro15-4513", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=ro15-4513 [15:40]
mircea_popescu: hm. i thought surely we did the "Secret alcohol antidote" thing. [15:40]
mircea_popescu: after all, what other basis in fact is there for all the "one weird trick they don't want you to know" / "the gubmint is supressing the water car" etc [15:41]
BingoBoingo: Oh? [15:45]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we did [16:02]
asciilifeform: it was a yarchive thread [16:02]
mircea_popescu: ah [16:02]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-06#1089606 << possible thread [16:04]
a111: Logged on 2015-04-06 01:34 asciilifeform: 'palcohol' << anyone remember when they banned the etoh antidote ? [16:04]
BingoBoingo: AH [16:05]
asciilifeform: 'Roche never commercialized this drug due to ethical & liability concerns. It would be useful in emergency room settings where physicians neede to communicate with intoxicated accident victims. But there was too much concern about it getting diverted to become a 'party drug.'' [16:08]
mircea_popescu: the whole "can't prosecute me for drunk driving, i popped a magic pill" angle was just too much to swallow [16:10]
asciilifeform: the 'gotta prosecute for impairment, regardless of whether from drink or not sleeping, rather than litmus' was evidently too much to puritanswallow [16:12]
asciilifeform: ( recall also mircea_popescu's article re the fat train riders . ) [16:13]
mircea_popescu: they demand their exam papers to cheat for god dang it! [16:14]
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2015/the-peak-of-insanity iirc [16:15]
asciilifeform: ftr, 'No, they don't have ads in the subway going "fat women are an insult to society", no they don't have steel bars at the entryways to make it impossible for the overweight to get in and bother people. Instead, they derp about "manspreading". Why this and not that ? Because while they are both intentional actions of responsible agents, the decision of the man to stretch is right there, whereas the decision of the woman to overeat [16:15]
asciilifeform: is one step removed. That's all. That's the way the nazist state works...' [16:15]
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/jW1pv << in the plebepress. [16:18]
asciilifeform: !#s felonious fortification [16:24]
a111: 3 results for "felonious fortification", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=felonious%20fortification [16:24]
asciilifeform: ^ fans of al schwartz will recognize [16:24]
asciilifeform: in particular http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-17#1671451 . [16:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 17:35 asciilifeform: elsewhere in uncleal, 'The FDA screamed "felonious fortification" when makers of cheap fortified wines wanted to add thiamine to prevent alcoholic neuropathy caused by thiamine malabsorption.' [16:25]
asciilifeform: and re dulap : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/dump_9_25_17.gz ( sha512: 886a750d8c1bc8a4e254824a267a407e651e31dce62aa29e2c85c07dfd6e25921671742d6c775df5ea2d065068d579a7e5922b4c36b0d263a7972afc10194164 ) [16:32]
asciilifeform: ^ latest. [16:32]
asciilifeform: ^ not massively different from prev snapshot, but here it is. [16:33]
mircea_popescu: more different now than a second before, apparently it didn't have elaine ou's pgp eithyer, notwithstanding it's on mit sks [16:36]
asciilifeform: is it rsa key ?? [16:37]
mircea_popescu: yes [16:37]
asciilifeform: link ? [16:37]
asciilifeform: nm found [16:38]
mircea_popescu: a kk [16:38]
mircea_popescu: was just fishing it out lol [16:38]
mircea_popescu: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/26209E74B2F34ACE5BC63F5904F41598FFD0D0A468CF4C5F63A285D62C7024B2 for record [16:38]
mircea_popescu: it'll be sad indeed once phuctor goes away, currently serves as gazette of record of rsa pubkeys. [16:38]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: post the sks link plox [16:40]
asciilifeform: i'm rather curious re why it was not snarfed [16:40]
mircea_popescu: possibly because may 2016 creation [16:40]
mircea_popescu: iirc we only ran it in 2015ish [16:40]
asciilifeform: that'd do it. [16:40]
asciilifeform: apr 2016 latest actually [16:40]
mircea_popescu: ah. month off huh. well then [16:40]
* asciilifeform at one point put in some sweat to make a real-time sks feeding thing, but junked it when found that it requires ASSENT on peering ends to work [16:41]
mircea_popescu: i rtecall the whiole convo [16:41]
asciilifeform: aha, in the l0gz somewhere. [16:41]
mircea_popescu: !~later tell valentinbuza plox no more join/part spam. [16:42]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded. [16:42]
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/09/25/american-football-is-over/ << Bingo Blog - (American) Football Is Over [17:07]
mircea_popescu: damn this cigar is a fucking great smoke. [18:15]
cruciform: what is it? I enjoyed a Romeo+Juliet last week [18:15]
mircea_popescu: presentation suggestion : one montecristo, aside one part fresh milk to one part centenario cafe (coffee liqueur in rum spirits, fucking fabulous). [18:15]
mircea_popescu: movie about inept us revolutionaries of the 40s optional. [18:16]
mircea_popescu: (daniel, lumet movie, about these "isaacson" couple and their spawn, a sort of rosenberg lite) [18:21]
BingoBoingo: In classic Trilemas of the re-readings http://trilema.com/2013/requiem-for-a-dream/ [18:54]
mircea_popescu: great one huh. [18:57]
BingoBoingo: Prolly the Trilema movie review which most comprehensively summarizes the context of the film [18:59]
mircea_popescu: goes great with http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/diana3.jpg tho i expect you need an expert to spot the dialated pupils. [19:00]
mircea_popescu: who else can take a flash to the eyelid like that, but the teen slut. [19:01]
BingoBoingo: Well, practice and timeliness [19:01]
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/0TMj5 << meanwhile in brittardia >> 'As part of their enquiries, detectives seized Rabbani’s mobile phone and laptop for the purpose of examining it, but Rabbani repeatedly refused to provide passwords for the devices to officers. ... Subsequently, the officers arrested him on suspicion of wilfully obstructing or seeking to frustrate an examination or search under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000 ... He was t [19:03]
asciilifeform: oday sentenced to 12 months’ conditional discharge and ordered to pay a £620 fine' [19:03]
mircea_popescu: eh, uk african lulz. who cares really ? [19:20]
asciilifeform: iirc there are l1 folx, even, still there. [19:27]
asciilifeform: ( and possibly whoever thinks 'i'll connect via heathrow'. badidea. ) [19:27]
mircea_popescu: i imagine the day is not far removed in the future where idiostani residence is absolute bar to l1. [19:28]
mircea_popescu: for that matter, sitting on ass during natural disaster is just as much absolute bar to l1. [19:28]
asciilifeform: natural disaster ? [19:29]
mircea_popescu: but in other lulz : i idly considered checking out jamaica for a week or so. a) THERE IS NO BOAT SERVICE. fucking period. can you believe this inept shit ?! and b) idjits wanna connect through... miami. atlanta. FUCKING NEW YORK, someone actyually said this to me with a straight face, "sure, flight is 10 hours, sjo to la guardia and la guardia to kin". [19:30]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714469 i dunno how oft i'll have to repeat this, but, comparatively, katrina was a minor concern. [19:30]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 21:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714333 << much chance of survival, seeing how a state of necessity was just declared, and absent servers there's no digital. [19:30]
asciilifeform: aa [19:31]
mircea_popescu: how exactly am i going to go "hey, he did nothing during state of necessity, but still should be in l1". because why the fuck ? [19:31]
asciilifeform: normally i think of word 'natural' as something else. [19:31]
mircea_popescu: let him move over to #hplusplus or wherever the fucktards gather to do nothing self-importantly. [19:31]
asciilifeform: that there's enemy fire [19:31]
mircea_popescu: stupidity is natural. [19:31]
asciilifeform: 'where were you in june of 41' (tm)(r) [19:32]
mircea_popescu: quite fuckign exactly. [19:34]
mircea_popescu: except, of course, this is more like a levy. "oh i know, i'll argue with mp about building levies in 2015, as if that's fucking permissible now, arguing with mp and then in 2016 and then whoops, the obvious natural occurence took us by total suprise!!11" [19:34]
asciilifeform: iirc in '15 the 'hosters are all shit for the same reason as miners, they are -ev to operate without scammitude, so change'em like condoms' school of thought was still strong. [19:39]
BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Pvvul/?raw=true [19:39]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. [19:39]
BingoBoingo: brb, sobertime [19:39]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/RZZNy/?raw=true [19:40]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform twas nonsense then as now. [19:43]
mircea_popescu: (for the curious, teeny slut above is from http://trilema.com/2010/masa-monetara/ which is part of a larger likbez on economics that i'm rather proud of) [19:48]
* asciilifeform honing his ro-fu, reads... [19:49]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, "GET /faq HTTP/1.1" 200 8124 "http://milrev-rannub.urbit.org/~~/talk/" [20:05]
mircea_popescu: dojos now ? [20:16]
mircea_popescu: they're never going to run out of other people's words to try and steal and sell, are they. [20:17]
mircea_popescu: fucking hot topic, "and THIS is a pirate" "no, it's not" "19.95" [20:17]
asciilifeform: pretty sure they've by nao stolen every single word in anglodictionary, up to 5 letters an' counting [20:20]
mod6: https://koinswag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/MPSilver.png [20:22]
asciilifeform: lol! [20:22]
mircea_popescu: kek what is that in the background, rocket launchers ? [20:23]
asciilifeform: do we know who was this maker [20:23]
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall tshirts being made at points [20:23]
mod6: no idea, it's been around for a while tho... [20:23]
mircea_popescu: tho tbh i'd prefer it modeled on tits. [20:23]
asciilifeform: https://koinswag.com/shop/bitcoin-t-shirt/mpex-bitcoin-t-shirt/ apparently also [20:23]
deedbot: http://trinque.org/2017/09/25/fuckgoats-tested/ << trinque - FUCKGOATS tested [20:26]
asciilifeform: oh hey hey hey lbj!! [20:26]
mod6: i like the mpex shirt too hehe. but aha, tits would be sweet. [20:27]
mod6: MPEx = ( . Y . ) [20:27]
mod6: or something [20:27]
asciilifeform: btw ain't it riotously scandalous that the dieharder d00d never showed up here ? [20:28]
asciilifeform: i and iirc a few other folx -- wrote [20:28]
mod6: yeah, would have been proper. [20:29]
shinohai: !#s http://www.ru.j-npcs.org/usoft/WWW/HOWTO/mini/Clock [20:29]
a111: 0 results for "http://www.ru.j-npcs.org/usoft/WWW/HOWTO/mini/Clock", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ru.j-npcs.org%2Fusoft%2FWWW%2FHOWTO%2Fmini%2FClock [20:29]
mircea_popescu: this "i'm more important than the world" is the easiest delusion. [20:30]
mircea_popescu: they're by their nature sweet, but this one's like truffles to the pigs. [20:30]
asciilifeform: trinque: updated FG www with link to your review. [20:32]
asciilifeform: this makes 3 . [20:32]
trinque: cheers [20:32]
mod6: nice trinque [20:34]
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting to hear of somebody other than myself, doing the yoke test [20:41]
asciilifeform: because -- unsurprise, i hope -- if yer FUCKGOATS were replaced with an identical-looking ftmeadegoats en route, it would pass (perhaps even 'prettier') the dh, ent, etc tests, as the original [20:42]
asciilifeform: even after being lethally boobytrapped. [20:42]
asciilifeform: another suggested experiment for FG owners is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1703042 . [20:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 17:16 asciilifeform: btw you can make this right now by attaching 2 hg tilt switches to a fg , 1 on each end ( b/w the middle and the +v pins ) [20:43]
asciilifeform: ^ incidentally : if you can get hall-effect switches, these will work even better ( the important thing is for whatever switch to be 'bounce-less', contact-bouncing creates predictable, in theory, temporal patterns ) [20:47]
asciilifeform: ( back to yoke test -- it is somewhat tricky, you need ~very~ good cabling, and very short, for the clocks to sync properly ) [20:49]
asciilifeform: FG-II rng will prolly have 4 pins, 1 for shifter pulse, to make yoking ultra-easy at ~0 cost. [20:51]
asciilifeform: ANOTHER useful advice to every fg owner is to verify that the cpld shitstream in yer unit, is in fact == to the one asciilifeform signed. [20:54]
mod6: asciilifeform: so far, i've only gone to the extent of unplugging both RNG-TWs and ensuring that the SAD lamp does what it should. [20:54]
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if anybody's, at this early point, isn't... but this is by far the cheapest and easiest method for enemy to tamper, and leaves 0 physical trace [20:54]
mircea_popescu: "Chi square distribution for 1048576000 samples is 217.95, and randomly would exceed this value 95.52 percent of the times." [20:55]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the torture room , i get a pretty flat distrib of chisqr values [20:56]
mircea_popescu: me2 [20:56]
mod6: that's in the 'suspect' range no? [20:56]
mircea_popescu: wtf is this [20:56]
mircea_popescu: Monte Carlo value for Pi is 3.141491330 (error 0.00 percent). [20:56]
asciilifeform: i see 5 ... 95 range approx. flatly. [20:56]
mircea_popescu: !~calc (3.141491330 - pi)/pi * 100 [20:56]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (3.141491330 - pi)/pi * 100 = -0.0032252300334771494 [20:56]
mircea_popescu: !~calc pi [20:57]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: pi = 3.141592653589793 [20:57]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: technically the idjit util is right tho, it's below 0.01% err [20:57]
* mod6 checks his results [20:57]
mircea_popescu: ya. [20:57]
mircea_popescu: counterintuitvely, the 4th decimal of pi should be within a 100th of a 100th [20:58]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-23#1660236 << oblig thread [20:58]
a111: Logged on 2017-05-23 01:04 asciilifeform: asciilifeform used 'dieharder' to reject a handful of screamingly defective analogue units , but currently isn't sure that it's good for much re a ~working~ one [20:58]
mod6: I had one result that was 10%, the rest 25%-50% : http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg-test.html [20:58]
mircea_popescu: anyway, item seems fine. [20:59]
asciilifeform: it chronically bothers asciilifeform , that there is actually nothing to compare fg to [21:00]
asciilifeform: unlike literally every other instrument i have [21:00]
mircea_popescu: heh. count your blessings. [21:00]
mircea_popescu: and in other epic pix : http://files.cinemacenter.ir/images/0b1m007w1zswc6qjspdg.jpg check out the lt checking out the ukr slut while she's going "omfg, are there more coming still ? this will be a long night." [21:03]
mod6: get your wienerschnitzels ready [21:07]
mircea_popescu: !!up eo [21:07]
deedbot: eo voiced for 30 minutes. [21:07]
mircea_popescu: hey. [21:07]
eo: hullo [21:07]
mircea_popescu: !!register your key ftr. [21:08]
deedbot: 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 is already registered as mircea_popescu. [21:08]
mircea_popescu: then ill rate you and you'll be able to self-voice. [21:08]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform chick came by in march and then a few days ago, my records show, none of you hardasses thought to up her. [21:09]
asciilifeform: ain't n00bz supposed to pm somebody an' ask ? [21:09]
mircea_popescu: i suppose. [21:09]
mircea_popescu: eo so what do you know of teh republic ? [21:10]
eo: @mircea_popescu only what i read in your blog posts [21:11]
mircea_popescu: i see. soo... wanna argue about anything ? [21:12]
eo: that's tough. i'm only here because i already agree with most of your content. [21:12]
mircea_popescu: weird, we dun generally find much fault with yours, notwitstanding in theory we should! [21:13]
mircea_popescu: !!up elaineo [21:22]
deedbot: elaineo voiced for 30 minutes. [21:22]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, vex writes in, in au, with https://archive.is/Pyln1 : 'One of the country's top universities has warned maths students not to use the term 'marriage' when referring to a well-known theorem because the word may cause 'offence.'' [21:44]
mircea_popescu: why would anyone stick around after that is incomprehensible. [21:52]
danielpbarron: !!key cruciform [22:28]
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/4E18288CAA6A98F4C51066053B6F4A8387D54AC6.asc [22:28]
danielpbarron: !~later tell cruciform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/u5Dhj/?raw=true [22:35]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: The operation succeeded. [22:35]
asciilifeform: in other lullies, https://www.ebay.com/i/232493884604 [23:17]
BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/f2zCx/?raw=true [23:22]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. [23:22]
BingoBoingo: https://gensteel.com/steel-building-kits/strip-malls << Anyone know a place to plop one of these outside NATO near transit cable to make datacenter? [23:34]
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: http://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/products/Prefabricated-IT-Data-Hall-500kW-97-Racks-Perimeter-CW-Cooling-Mod-Distrib-480V-60Hz/P-PFMIEA500C2N097A perhaps a more suitable prefab? [23:38]
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Prefab strip mall has shorter walk to coffee shop, provided a coffee data tenant rents space [23:39]
ben_vulpes: it is a sad truth that all data centers i have been in have sadder coffee production facilities than even starbucks. [23:41]
ben_vulpes: also use windows. also in usshitistan. [23:41]
BingoBoingo: Really [coffee shop][datacenter (studio apartment carveout)][scooter dealer] is imagined layout [23:45]
BingoBoingo: for the moment [23:45]
BingoBoingo: If locale has enough people who feel entitled to protective road cage to justify 4-wheel dealership, locale prolly sucks for building building [23:47]
ben_vulpes: under that analysis, should probably do fork/heavy equipment/rental+dealership instead of scooter dealership [23:50]
BingoBoingo: Nah, the customers there are demanding and suspicious. Not to mention keeps existential threats to datacenter too close. [23:50]
BingoBoingo: Re-reading of the moment http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ [23:51]
ben_vulpes: existential threats, yes, but in their docile state! [23:51]
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Few have meaningful locks on them. Only docile because passerby have anxiety about starting up unattented equipment. [23:52]
BingoBoingo: Anyways, it's hard to meaningfully lock a door when excavator sleeps within 100 yards of door. Doesn't leave much time to take position with anti-materiel rifle before it closes range [23:53]
ben_vulpes: lol ok ok [23:54]
BingoBoingo: While scooters produce delicious 2-stroke exhaust and help the pobre commute within their substantial means [23:54]
ben_vulpes: not like it would be hard to wire keypads into them if they still don't have meaningful locks. [23:54]
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Most heavy equipment starts by holding hidden button while pressing "start button", Or turning key shapped ignition switch while holding hidden button [23:55]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform's father's auto in ye olde su, had one of these [23:56]
asciilifeform: 'seekrit' starter-enbl button [23:57]
asciilifeform: to this day i have nfi wtf was the point [23:57]
asciilifeform: iirc it had to be clicked a magic # of times, or rhythm, or somesuch [23:58]
mod6: lot of the bobcats i've seen recently have a 10-key pad to enter a code before it can be started. [23:59]
asciilifeform: ritualistic voodoo-hoodoo-hex against thieves [23:59]
mod6: older ones though... [23:59]
mod6: lol [23:59]
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