Forum logs for 08 Sep 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you bind the reams of dead trees your laser printer coughs up? stick 'em in 3rings? [00:37]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: perforator [00:50]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: looks like e.g. http://www.abcoffice.com/images/versabind-binding-machine_large.jpg [00:51]
ben_vulpes: gotcha ty [00:52]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: for times when you want easily removed pages -- 3ring. [00:52]
ben_vulpes: i recall this being a useful feature once upon a time [00:58]
trinque: http://archive.is/WQqgG << mexico's got bean-farts [01:14]
trinque: some gems in the comments. "After she finishes with America, she needs to destroy the head of the beast in Israel." and "They are really having their fun with HAARP." [01:15]
mircea_popescu: um [01:15]
mircea_popescu: how the fuck didn't i feel ANYTHING ? [01:15]
mircea_popescu: srsly, there can be a 8.0 earthquake 1k miles away and it'll pass entitrely unnoticed ?! [01:17]
trinque: looks like there was a 4.7 closer to ya yesterday, off the coast of el salvador. [01:21]
trinque: possibly already scooted in your area? but not sure, 8.0 is quite a jostle. [01:22]
ben_vulpes: how long would the shear waves take to propagate? [01:24]
ben_vulpes: 4-12 minutes, back of the envelope? [01:25]
ben_vulpes: also with shitty constants gleaned in a hurry [01:25]
ben_vulpes: PeterL: you around? [01:29]
mircea_popescu: trinque that, i felt. very slight shake. [01:29]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i expect < 15 minutes yes. [01:30]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the scale is exponential, 5 ain't a sort of 60% of 8. [01:30]
mircea_popescu: (the item that leveled bucharest in 1977 was 7.2 not 8, and it happened 200kms away.) [01:32]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1A2EDFDA3563E2D6625C378F4B5C4103DEB5D71CE5D94E4918230ED1391F266C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1558...5683 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '196.46.112.13 (ssh-rsa key from 196.46.112.13 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (proxy1.kino.cd.ibcore.net. CD) [01:33]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1A2EDFDA3563E2D6625C378F4B5C4103DEB5D71CE5D94E4918230ED1391F266C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1580...8843 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '196.46.112.13 (ssh-rsa key from 196.46.112.13 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (proxy1.kino.cd.ibcore.net. CD) [01:33]
ben_vulpes: "preliminary magnitude" [01:33]
trinque: http://archive.is/NJqLH << updated, now saying tsunami possible in 8 countries including costa rica. [01:33]
mircea_popescu: not much of a concern that i dun think. [01:34]
trinque: iirc mircea_popescu is up high, yeah. [01:34]
mircea_popescu: most of the country is. [01:34]
mircea_popescu: what a helluva name, you know ? pijijiapan, srsly ? [01:35]
mircea_popescu: anyway, pretty close to villahermosa, which i've been to. [01:35]
ben_vulpes: meanwhile, usg.census outsourcing its work to usg.facebook: http://archive.is/K6JWo [01:41]
mircea_popescu: cheaper that way. [01:41]
ben_vulpes: usg.valuation predicted to rise with increased eyeball count per usg.facebook [01:43]
mircea_popescu: heh [01:43]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/rhinestone/ << Trilema - Rhinestone [01:47]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> srsly, there can be a 8.0 earthquake 1k miles away and it'll pass entitrely unnoticed ?! << Perhaps you were preoccupied with another jostle? [01:54]
mircea_popescu: even so~! [01:57]
mircea_popescu: but no, i was watching dolly parton not like stallone. [01:57]
* ben_vulpes just looked up GF(2), while working to understand how the keccak 'reference' authors got from the step definitions in 1.2 to the pseudocode in 2.3, experiencing an 'oh dear' moment [02:10]
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats [02:35]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: None | Current Difficulty: 9.22724699725E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 485855 | Next Difficulty In: None blocks | Next Difficulty In About: None | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [02:35]
phf: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-07-sep-2017#2336388 << hah, i'll ask around. there's been a general tightening of club scene, but i'll see what i can find [07:31]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-07 14:50 mircea_popescu: say phf ! since you're in moscow, what's the bdsm scene like ? do they have a club ? mind doing a field report ? [07:31]
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/uK8pr/?raw=true [09:09]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [09:09]
mod6: mornin' [10:00]
shinohai: Buenas dias mod6 o/ [10:01]
mod6: hai [10:02]
shinohai: http://archive.is/A1vDn "How I got social-engineered out of my Bitcoin, yet want to blame Conbase because I was stupid enough to use them" [10:06]
asciilifeform: 'I assumed that a company as well known as Coinbase must have phone support. So I googled “coinbase phone support” and a number popped up. I gave this number to Rita. It turns out that this number was a fraud. When Rita called it, a man identified himself as a Coinbase support rep and asked her to go to a special Coinbase support website where he had Rita enter her username, password, and the confirmation code texted to her phone [10:17]
asciilifeform: ' << lol!! [10:17]
asciilifeform: 'Coinbase support is schockingly bad' << illiteracy is however a-ok... [10:19]
mod6: hhaha [10:20]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-08#1711480 << i.e. carryless addition, aka xor. [10:26]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-08 06:10 ben_vulpes just looked up GF(2), while working to understand how the keccak 'reference' authors got from the step definitions in 1.2 to the pseudocode in 2.3, experiencing an 'oh dear' moment [10:26]
shinohai: LOL @ this tweet from Equifax last month: "Tired of keeping track of all your passwords? We partnered with @FISGlobal to launch OnlyID – a new #digital authentication solution." https://twitter.com/Equifax/status/900439176591659008 [11:40]
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf ever tried sbcl for arm 'softfloat' cpu ? all i get is 'Illegal instruction' death when running, regardless of what build. [11:49]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [11:49]
asciilifeform: !!up PeterL [12:17]
deedbot: PeterL voiced for 30 minutes. [12:17]
PeterL: hi asciilifeform [12:17]
asciilifeform: ohai PeterL [12:18]
PeterL: I threw together http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JWVm6/?raw=true so that I could test out my keccak by hashing a file [12:18]
PeterL: so I have been cleaning up bugs, and I ran into the error "raised constraint_error : s-expint.adb:65 overflow check failed" any idea what that would come from? [12:19]
asciilifeform: gimme whole stack pyramid [12:20]
PeterL: umm, that was all I got [12:21]
PeterL: is there a way to make it give me more? [12:21]
asciilifeform: PeterL: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gnat_ugn/Symbolic-Traceback.html#Symbolic-Traceback [12:21]
asciilifeform: http://www.adacore.com/adaanswers/gems/gem-142-exceptions/ << moar likbez [12:22]
asciilifeform: build with -g , use addr2line to get the stacktrace. [12:23]
asciilifeform: you oughta do this nearly always . ( 1 notable exception is ffa or other 'tight' code where you're testing speed, and correctness already known there -g will give a 10-15x speed penalty ) [12:24]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-07#1711358 << bwahgaha o lordy. [12:33]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-07 21:33 ben_vulpes: i see you racist misandry and raise you a racist sandwich: "Applying critical analysis to food is essential to understanding and framing 'big picture' ideas about white supremacist capitalist heteropatriarchy." [12:33]
mircea_popescu: "petrocheese for everyone" as a philosophical choice amirite. [12:33]
mircea_popescu: why are socialists so fucking dumb anyway. o, nevermind, i forget : that's the fucking definition of the term. [12:33]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-07#1711361 << how hasn't it happened ? have you looked at the hashing over time ? [12:37]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-07 21:35 fromloper: Why hasn't this happened to bcrash yet? http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/#selection-73.3-79.82 [12:37]
mircea_popescu: the difference between altcoin and bcc is that i stopped supporting altcoin after losing some dust whereas the idiots are still pushing the dead cat uphill in spiute of losing milions. which is, again, why http://trilema.com/2012/fact-of-the-matter-is-the-infrastructure-was-not-ready/#selection-27.0-53.592 ie you SHOULD NOT give ANY money to children and imbeciles. and that includes governments, which are always and everywh [12:41]
mircea_popescu: ere the handywork of children and imbeciles. [12:41]
mircea_popescu: so don't ask me why usg & friends is bleeding its ~worthless ass over bcc. ask instead mit why it is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-26#1674638 [12:41]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-26 20:07 asciilifeform: from earlier, lulz, 'In April 2017, an unexpected and disruptive change was made to the MIT network: the sale of historically MIT-allocated IP address ranges to external entities such as Amazon. The sale wasn't announced to the MIT community until after it had taken effect. ' [12:41]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-07#1711366 << there's ~0 difference this makes, ftr. (original article even discusses it, plainly). [12:42]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-07 21:37 shinohai: fromloper: It has iirc .... but there was some sort of "Emergency Difficulty adjustment" they implemented. [12:42]
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/09/08/blackzillas-2nd-track-day/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Blackzilla’s 2nd track day. [12:48]
asciilifeform: 'Suppose you recalibrate difficulty each block instead. Big whoop, so attacker drives your difficulty up 100x and now you only have to mine six days for negative returns instead of two years. So what ? You're still underwater, and once you recover he can still do it again.' ( from mircea_popescu's likbez ) [12:50]
mircea_popescu: the numbers also don't matter. if he drives it up 1.01 instead, he STILL gets to bleed you for the 0.01 [12:51]
mircea_popescu: you can pretend not to care, yes, moreso if 0.01 than if 100. but then again, look where "pretending not to care" about the shearing has taken sheep. [12:52]
mircea_popescu: and yes, obviously this arrangement is a perfect match for the usg / its fiat-statist allies in south korea etcetera. because that's exactly what the socialist state proposition is, "we'll be bleeding for as long as we live and attempt to kill everyone before the air runs out". [12:53]
mircea_popescu: and since i linked that, how about http://trilema.com/2012/fact-of-the-matter-is-the-infrastructure-was-not-ready/#comment-91305 in re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-18#1699949 [13:04]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 04:00 mircea_popescu: otherwise what, we'll be stuck in 2020 dealing with legacy yahoos ? noty. [13:04]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-07#1711374 << word. [13:05]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-07 21:41 BingoBoingo: And it's very disruptive, and very cutting to those propping up the bcrash scam [13:05]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-07#1711376 << i'm very curious where hungary actually lives up to the nationalist pretense of the past decade and tells them where to stuff it. [13:06]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-07 21:59 ben_vulpes: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/06/eu-court-rejects-refugee-quota-challenge-hungary-slovakia/ "Politics has raped European law and values" [13:06]
mircea_popescu: fwiw romania's been well fucked by the usg pretense in the middle east my lawyers report there's hundreds of unemployed, unskilled laborers sitting around the outskirts of towns doing jack shit and slowly boiling to the government-desired rape-and-pilage temperature. [13:10]
mircea_popescu: and since it's an orcland, the government actually had the audacity to make hiring ilegals A FELONY, while the local farmers can't find farm hands. [13:10]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-07#1711383 << because you don't understand how they'd like for the world to works. [13:27]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-07 22:03 BingoBoingo: Why not just call Sharpton's blackmail scam what it is? [13:27]
shinohai: Site set up about Equifax breach is using a free shared CloudFlare SSL cert. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJKYVNJVwAAsdcM.jpg [13:30]
mircea_popescu: why the fuck are they using https in the first place. [13:30]
shinohai: Consumer sekoority! [13:31]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-08#1711493 << am i the only one thinking "rita" is a dog's name ?! [13:31]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-08 14:19 asciilifeform: 'Coinbase support is schockingly bad' << illiteracy is however a-ok... [13:31]
mircea_popescu: did this schmuck actually have the dog call some nigerian off the internets ?! [13:32]
mircea_popescu: "hello, this is dog!" "hello sr mr dog, this is mr james. jack james. harry. please write down some money numbers" [13:32]
mircea_popescu: "i have no idea what's going on." [13:32]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-08#1711512 << run instrumented always while preparing a patch/v-root never when compiling from an existing v-tree. simple rule, no reason not to follow. [13:35]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-08 16:24 asciilifeform: you oughta do this nearly always . ( 1 notable exception is ffa or other 'tight' code where you're testing speed, and correctness already known there -g will give a 10-15x speed penalty ) [13:35]
mircea_popescu: makes the separation between "code writing" and "code running" stick in the head. and it's an important separation to have. [13:35]
mircea_popescu: oh, and in other important separations to have : http://68.media.tumblr.com/034e2fc0882b8a5967a5a325c5307f02/tumblr_nn7i8tUiiM1upqo7jo1_500.gif [13:37]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is this carryless addition/GF(2)/xor package part of finite field arithmetic [13:54]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : http://uscfhq.blogspot.com/2017/09/google-alert-nsa_7.html (August 2017 Statement) [13:54]
ben_vulpes: "...more than a third of U.S. Navy ships based out of Japan had expired warfare training certifications..." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-navy/many-u-s-navy-ships-in-pacific-lack-certification-watchdog-idUSKCN1BI2YD [13:56]
mircea_popescu: us ships are not for fightin'. they're, much like latina mommy-whores, for showing. if the showing dun impress you, they sure as fuck ain't lifting a foot above knee level, wtf is this, work ?! [13:57]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'FZ_Xor' [13:58]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wtf's that [13:58]
mircea_popescu: the link ? some rando / spammer / mfa pulling google alerts into blog posts. [13:59]
mircea_popescu: or what level is the question directed at ? google alerts are this thing, roughly equivalent to push-wikipedia. [13:59]
asciilifeform: looks like autogenned snoarfest [13:59]
asciilifeform: aah [13:59]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4103E97DFCB0EE16C1726F2DC7649F4C12701F456E894BC54BA5EBF1567067BB << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1591...2237 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.255.0.12 (ssh-rsa key from 89.255.0.12 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (web001.hosting-concepts.nl. NL) [14:11]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4103E97DFCB0EE16C1726F2DC7649F4C12701F456E894BC54BA5EBF1567067BB << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1786...2043 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.255.0.12 (ssh-rsa key from 89.255.0.12 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (web001.hosting-concepts.nl. NL) [14:11]
asciilifeform: ^ https://www.openprovider.nl << alive, hoster co [14:11]
asciilifeform: 'zonder ssl-certif..' << /me thinks 'zonderkommando' [14:12]
asciilifeform: in other rubbishes, https://www.picoquant.com/products/category/quantum-random-number-generator/pqrng-150-quantum-random-number-generator [14:28]
asciilifeform: !!up PeterL [14:28]
deedbot: PeterL voiced for 30 minutes. [14:28]
PeterL: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6sfA8/?raw=true << changes to get the thing I posted yesterday to work [14:29]
asciilifeform: PeterL: plz be very specific, what means work [14:29]
asciilifeform: matches known in:out pairs ? from where ? [14:29]
PeterL: ah, what I mean is now I can actually get an output [14:30]
asciilifeform: aa [14:30]
PeterL: I was about to ask, is there a good source of in:out pairs to compare against? [14:30]
asciilifeform: the original c proggy came with 'test vectors' [14:30]
asciilifeform: try those. [14:30]
PeterL: ok, found this https://keccak.team/obsolete/KeccakKAT-3.zip , I will work on setting up tests against it [14:36]
mircea_popescu: o hey, is that /obsolete/ a copy of old site ? [14:39]
PeterL: heh, wait, I guess I want a non-obsolete [14:39]
asciilifeform: nonono [14:39]
mircea_popescu: no, they fucked up their site. [14:40]
mod6: !!up PeterL [14:59]
deedbot: PeterL voiced for 30 minutes. [14:59]
pete_dushenski: http://www.columbia.edu/~jl4130/BTC.pdf << bout time columbia economist study something useful. [15:25]
asciilifeform: ohai pete_dushenski [15:26]
pete_dushenski: "Bitcoin is not regulated. It cannot be regulated" << not a terrible conclusion either. the edges of usg.uni are starting to come around to the realities of the new world order in which they control everless and are left to "theorise" evermore [15:26]
pete_dushenski: heya alf [15:26]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: enjoying aurora ? [15:27]
pete_dushenski: always :) [15:27]
mircea_popescu: yes, but the next step is going to be their whining about how if it can't be regulated therefore it shouldn't exist. [15:28]
mircea_popescu: ~0 chance of "well since bitcoin can't be regulated by govertnment, no point in having government anymore" [15:28]
pete_dushenski: derps are great at convincing themselves that things that they don't like are fake, wrong, or generally shouldn't exist. [15:30]
pete_dushenski: but this is ancient observation [15:32]
pete_dushenski: what's more entertaining is watching usg.xxx struggle internally with pretending the sun isn't really rising but wouldn't it be neato if it did and i bet you it would follow this calculated trajectory along the sky. [15:33]
mircea_popescu: pity nobody ever saw it!!! [15:34]
pete_dushenski: "i even asked my nerdy cousin but he said he'd never seen the sun either, though he claimed that a wow-head buddy had years ago back when the sun was only a little tyke, but i can't be sure how accurate that account is" [15:36]
pete_dushenski: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/08/04/upshot/00up-women2/00up-women2-jumbo.jpg << one for soldering aficionados ("among the most downloaded images this year from getty's lean in collection") [15:50]
* asciilifeform searches l0gz for the infamous 'wimminz in kompyooting' loljpg with the chix holding iron like a pencil [15:52]
* asciilifeform fails to find [15:52]
shinohai: asciilifeform: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/solderingiron.jpg [15:54]
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475820 [15:54]
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 15:50 shinohai: Possibly like this girl helping asciilifeform solder? http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/solderingiron.jpg [15:54]
asciilifeform: ahahahaha yes [15:54]
mod6: heheh [15:54]
mircea_popescu: lol [15:54]
asciilifeform: ( all i found was... http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-05#1007269 ) [15:55]
a111: Logged on 2015-02-05 02:37 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.my-garage.spb.ru/img/238.jpg << a cryptoanalytic soldering iron. [15:55]
shinohai: http://archive.is/bZjyH <<< Bwahahaha (Ripple) .... "has soared in value to $0.20" [19:44]
shinohai: Such scam [19:44]
asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin, one of the oldest and most established cryptocurrencies' << loL!! [22:10]
asciilifeform: didjaknow, didjaknow, 'one of' [22:10]
asciilifeform: y'know, with all them others. [22:10]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/48A8D19A6A81384890010F9893258751E9DE627E77E0CF10134C5202B4787F86 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 8888...4329 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.0.229 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.0.229 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown MX CHH) [22:26]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7AFCB319BA5F87300D36645CC29652B8350BDA7B93FFCEAB37D84668D2E9B5DB << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 8888...4329 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.5.87 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.5.87 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown MX CHH) [22:26]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DF285CE5C4B0EE19C83F8D94DB19C7C64CB6E860615DECE9AF352E6605983707 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 8888...4329 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.6.29 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.6.29 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown MX CHH) [22:26]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/48A8D19A6A81384890010F9893258751E9DE627E77E0CF10134C5202B4787F86 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 9556...9709 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.0.229 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.0.229 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown MX CHH) [22:26]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> y'know, with all them others. << haha [23:59]
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