Forum logs for 07 Sep 2018

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deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/idle-inquiry/ << Trilema - Idle inquiry... [01:23]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: sonnow, sunnounded, tennified, annangement, annangements, embannassment, annogant, occunned, [06:18]
diana_coman: innelevance [06:19]
diana_coman: !!up rain1 [06:20]
deedbot: rain1 voiced for 30 minutes. [06:20]
rain1: thanks [06:20]
diana_coman: who are you rain1 ? [06:20]
rain1: i never know how to answer that. I work on some code projects [06:22]
diana_coman: all right what was it you needed voice for? [06:23]
rain1: I wanted to ask if anybody knew how twitter image filenames were derived from the file content. there's a bit of info about the url structure but no explanation which hash algorithm is used [06:24]
diana_coman: I doubt twitter really interested anyone around here all that much what does it matter how twitter picks image filenames? [06:27]
rain1: ok sorry [06:28]
diana_coman: rain1, no need to be sorry, just answer the question [06:30]
rain1: someone did a trick where they put some text in the filename, kinda like how you get novelty bitcoin addresses. and i was wondering how to do it [06:30]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that Kirk fellow sounds great and I'd rather have read something written by him than lewis [06:31]
diana_coman: rain1, ok, so you want to do some trick that some other guy did but still not clear how does it ...matter [06:33]
diana_coman: logically speaking you should ask that guy anywya [06:33]
diana_coman: rain1, you know, since you work on some code projects, why don't you play eulora and work any tricks you want with the client code there - perhaps even the sort of tricks that can give your char an edge so you earn actual bitcoin [06:36]
diana_coman: rain2, do you have anything else to say? tricks get tiresome rather quickly [07:00]
rain2: no [07:01]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman fixed sonnow, tennified, annangement/s, embannassment, annogant sunnoundedm occunned, were already fixed somehow. thanks! [09:23]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-07-sep-2018#2472290 << plox not to do this "who are you" upping anymore. [09:24]
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 10:20 diana_coman: who are you rain1 ? [09:24]
diana_coman: no upping unless known, k [09:25]
mircea_popescu: the implication of upping someone is that you've been personally training them, and they've been personally serving you, for some strech sufficient enough so that either a) you can answer my questions about them to my satisfaction or else b) fail a you judge your unrating them is sufficient undoing for their sins. [09:25]
mircea_popescu: upping someone new, i mean. [09:26]
diana_coman: the name faintly sounded a bell and he had actually been in here before but just like this time failed to have any real reason for having voice anyways, it was still older habit at work, no longer appropriate [09:28]
diana_coman: !!down rain2 [09:28]
mircea_popescu: yeah. many years, but all stretches eventually end. [09:28]
mircea_popescu: on the flip side, the lengthy need to watch the join/parts entirely evaporated erryone can just turn that off and never again mind it. [09:29]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i suppose we have a "reputation" among the script kiddies ahem i mean "hackers" etcetera. [09:32]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-07#1848469 << http://archive.is/A0d5e not much remains, even his biography has the fat fagot's face instead. [09:36]
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 10:31 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that Kirk fellow sounds great and I'd rather have read something written by him than lewis [09:36]
diana_coman: that's what it sounded to me too although I'd have thought there was more than "they know stuff" to whatever reputation there might be there then again, sorrying one's way out of answering a question is the same pick and choose approach so not surprising [09:36]
mircea_popescu: "At Queen's College he had a distinguished academic career, graduating (in July, 1868) with 1st class honours in English, History and Metaphysics." [09:37]
mircea_popescu: unlike the 1918s set, these were earned. [09:37]
mircea_popescu: but yes, this "choosing" thing's pretty much the only thing left in the anglotard mind. they'll fuzz you out! [09:38]
diana_coman: I must say that I read lewis' narnia very late, mainly to see what the whole buzz was all about but it seemed a very poor and sorry thing to me so I still don't know what is supposed to be amazing about it [09:39]
rain2: mircea_popescu: did you just call me scipt kiddy [09:39]
mircea_popescu: !!down rain2 [09:40]
mircea_popescu: "From the 1750s, as with other Oxford colleges, standards dropped." << i'd say for the record that's about the right cutoff. by the time victorian period was starting, poor oxford was well threadbare already. [09:51]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the britain-france paralleles are amusing. stage 1 : the french decide to end feudalism in bloodshed the brits copy them same half century later, escept the bloodshed is of maidenheads, in industrialist's beds [09:54]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what do you suppose killed oxford ? [09:55]
mircea_popescu: stage 2 : the french grasp that the end of feudalism is not "progress", but literal "the end", proceed to huge party called napoleon the brits copy them some half century later, except their idea of a party is victorian england [09:55]
mircea_popescu: and so following. [09:55]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform husbands stopped beating their wives. [09:55]
asciilifeform: ( or do i misframe the q, and it simply exhausted its allotted life tank ) [09:55]
mircea_popescu: it wasn't a "moral" or ethical concern that did it, either. it was sheer disinterest. [09:55]
mircea_popescu: well, you never know, world's not exactly a lab. but it seems to me the beating is at the core of it. [09:56]
asciilifeform: i.e. unbeat, they brought up lewises? [09:56]
mircea_popescu: "au devenit foarte, foarte triste" [09:57]
mircea_popescu: they became sad. [09:57]
asciilifeform: how do you say in eng пойти вразнос ? i.e. when engine governor fails and it redlines and burns [09:58]
mircea_popescu: i dunno anything burned. [09:59]
asciilifeform: the wives, in this model [10:00]
mircea_popescu: if you stop taking your hunting dog out to hunts, does it burn ? [10:01]
BingoBoingo: Yes [10:01]
asciilifeform: surely does [10:01]
BingoBoingo: Not burst into flames, but slowly smolders as nervous wreck [10:04]
asciilifeform: btw not only engines. e.g. old atx power brick will also, if run with 0 load [10:04]
asciilifeform: this is pretty common phenomenon in mechanisms. [10:05]
asciilifeform: meanwhile in entomology dept, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/K9jvy/?raw=true [10:06]
asciilifeform: evidently not errybody noticed mircea_popescu's new subjline for #t. [10:08]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in rf amps , also, if antenna mis-impedance'd (and 'run without antenna' is merely special case of same) energy reflected back into amp and it, likewise, smoulders, soon begins to exhale its magic smoke [10:11]
BingoBoingo: lol, the no talking to stangers thing has been a standard for at least a couple years now [10:11]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm willing to talk to 'hey i read ffa and in ch4 you missed this-here obvious optimization, here's proof'. but 'hi i am reddit, hear me roar' can go the fuck perma-away. [10:13]
BingoBoingo: Ah like the Mario 'I R Hakkker fellow' [10:14]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my house dun have an airlock, so sometimes flies go in. they neither know or care that the only thing waiting for flies inside is 5000 volts. [10:17]
asciilifeform: it is simply how flies are, they move ~randomly [10:17]
asciilifeform: notably, larger pests, e.g. racooons, seem to be smarter, they've mostly stopped showing up. [10:22]
asciilifeform: ( hey pests! perhaps some of you can read ? guess wat, 'delish food smell' + 'inexplicably none of my kind in there' means 5000 volts! ) [10:23]
asciilifeform: prolly is all there is to be said on subj. [10:24]
rain2: you've spent a lot of lines insulting me so if I may respond? you seem to have made totally false assumption about me. I just thought it was an interesting topic and that people would be interested here. I stopped talking about it when they said it was uninteresting. No need to paint me like some adversary.. I just wanted to talk to fun people. [10:33]
BingoBoingo: !!down rain2 [10:36]
BingoBoingo: !!gettrust rain2 [10:38]
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 1 by 1 connections. [10:38]
BingoBoingo: !!gettrust deedbot rain2 [10:39]
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 2 by 2 connections. [10:39]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what i dun get , is what all of these folx are hoping to find here. outside of the flies model, i got nuffin. [11:10]
BingoBoingo: Everyone wants to hang out with the cool kids? [11:13]
asciilifeform: 'eat stone soup, contributing the stone' or how did mircea_popescu formulate it. [11:13]
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-18#1826621 [11:16]
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 21:03 asciilifeform: i.e. 'hi i am goat and i expect this to work just like all goat pens i've sat in' [11:16]
asciilifeform: aha [11:17]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/new-paraguay-president-stands-up-to-usg-and-zionists-moves-embassy-out-of-jerusalem/ << Qntra - New Paraguay President Stands Up To USG And Zionists, Moves Embassy Out Of Jerusalem [14:02]
jurov: !!v C39DA8F54D517A1B79CB3E824F6DEF1AA151159867CDA38136D1BC5EA37F29E8 [14:19]
deedbot: jurov paid BingoBoingo invoice 1 [14:19]
mod6: Thanks jurov! [14:23]
BingoBoingo: tyvm [14:27]
jurov: yw [14:27]
asciilifeform: mod6: i tested you rk drive blockwise: it has no physical defects [19:34]
asciilifeform: mod6: i enabled root login on the thing with temporary pw, lessee if it comes up [19:35]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at your earliest chance plz pull mod6's stick from dulap, re-emplace into his unit, and power up [19:35]
asciilifeform: in other noose, not only reading but writing the c101pa's boot rom worx. however, a build of rk3399 demo uboot does ~not~ bring up anyffing that produces debug uart output. [19:36]
asciilifeform: the reason for this, i do not know, could be the gcc6 idjicy (my uboot , once i nixed the check for gcc6, builds without eggogs, but who's to say re output), or could be wrong magic turd, or who the fuck knows [19:37]
asciilifeform: uboot on c101pa promises to be a long and painful dig. [19:37]
asciilifeform: writing the rom per se takes ~15min, with the snake. [19:38]
asciilifeform: one possible path could be to start with google's crapola 'depthcharge' booter src, but it won't build (tried) with standard tooling, and currently i haven't a box where to put their horror show [19:41]
asciilifeform: asked in the derp chan, https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip/2018-09-07#23015323 , just on the off chance, but i expect 0 answer beyond the usual amstan type , i.e. 'fuck off and eat vendor liquishit' [19:46]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty [19:54]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-07#1848517 << "da people" have "rights" and whatnot is it. [20:22]
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 14:08 asciilifeform: evidently not errybody noticed mircea_popescu's new subjline for #t. [20:22]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-07#1848532 << jesus seriously !? [20:24]
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 14:39 deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 2 by 2 connections. [20:24]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-07#1848533 << you rated him! [20:25]
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 15:10 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what i dun get , is what all of these folx are hoping to find here. outside of the flies model, i got nuffin. [20:25]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-07#1848552 << prolly, until you get a countour map at least. [20:26]
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 23:41 asciilifeform: one possible path could be to start with google's crapola 'depthcharge' booter src, but it won't build (tried) with standard tooling, and currently i haven't a box where to put their horror show [20:26]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: contour ? [20:29]
mircea_popescu: whether some magic bitpile goes in somewhere, for instance. [20:30]
mircea_popescu: get an idea of whereabouts they've been clever. [20:30]
asciilifeform: it isn't so much a 'clever' but that there's a whole pile of iron drivers [20:31]
mircea_popescu: or that, i guess. [20:31]
asciilifeform: some of which aint in the demo rk3399 [20:31]
asciilifeform: all i really need from the bootrom is to do what uboot on pogo did, i.e. see the disks ( internal ssd, usb, sd ) , read some classic partitions ( e.g. ext3 ), load kernels ( in human, not google, format ) and present pogo-style uboot cmdline for these. [20:33]
asciilifeform: initially i assumed that stock rk3399 uboot will do ~something~ detectable, even tho it lacks support for the lcd or the oddball kbd chip, given as i have uart [20:34]
asciilifeform: but nodice, nuffin on uart [20:34]
mircea_popescu: well, so see what googleturd does differently. [20:35]
mircea_popescu: but yes this promises to be a slog. [20:35]
mircea_popescu: maybe not even bother building it, just scan through [20:36]
asciilifeform: it's a 8MB turd [20:36]
mircea_popescu: so grep through it for half an hour, what's it cost. [20:36]
asciilifeform: been digging through it all summer, on an' off [20:37]
asciilifeform: it's a ~completely diff codebase from stock uboot [20:37]
asciilifeform: interestingly, the dram init turd differs from the stock rk3399. and doesn't seem to be published in their repo. i'd like to try ripping theirs, but so far not even able to determine where it ends and their booter begins [20:38]
asciilifeform: ( i.e. where to cut ) [20:38]
asciilifeform: the biggest headache is to get to where ~something~ gets shat forth from the rk uart. [20:41]
asciilifeform: after that, 'only stamp collecting' [20:42]
mircea_popescu: hm [20:44]
asciilifeform: then can debug. until then - blind [20:47]
asciilifeform: ( or to use trad terminology, 'bricked'. tho i have 'unbricker' nao, possibly the only one outside of the inca palace for this iron ) [20:48]
asciilifeform: ( unbricker worx 100% btw, when flash back vendor shitware, it runs as before ) [20:50]
mircea_popescu: not bad. [20:52]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : Margot Asquith (very much a stupid cunt, of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810279 pile of garbage) once met hane jarlow, who promptly mispronounced her name. to which the "wit" cleanly retorted : "no, no, the t is silent, like in harlow". [21:38]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 18:05 mircea_popescu: aand in other items of entomological interest, the wikipedia take on politicized pseudo-literary criticism is something else. aphra behn is lionized, because they're ever-so-desperate to discover, invent or if need be entirely hallucinate "remarkable" cuntbearers of the shakespeare period that some random jailbird is A HEROINE OF FEMINISM!!! [21:38]
mod6: !!sent-invoices [22:08]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/NYTUT/?raw=true [22:08]
mod6: !!ledger [22:08]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/RFJa0/?raw=true [22:08]
mircea_popescu: aand in other news, fatty galore meet egon wheels. [22:47]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what are these ? [22:56]
asciilifeform: either of them [22:56]
mircea_popescu: funny names! [23:37]
asciilifeform: !!rated rain2 [23:53]
deedbot: asciilifeform rated rain2 1 at 2018/08/10 16:08:51 << small scheme interpreters [23:53]
asciilifeform: !!unrate rain2 [23:53]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bgh9W/?raw=true [23:53]
asciilifeform: !!v B0916DF72D0D8B55B04D25FE18D18DA4722DA8BEC54900153989D64ADAF181F4 [23:53]
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated rain2. [23:53]
asciilifeform: !!rate cnomad -1 ran off with mp's bitcent. [23:54]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ir29d/?raw=true [23:54]
asciilifeform: !!v 94005A51C972A4B69CE9AEF8AF0B3F5BEB36900CF29652483D353203684A9ADB [23:54]
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of cnomad from 1 to -1 << ran off with mp's bitcent. [23:54]
asciilifeform: !!unrate b41e209ccc264812 [23:55]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hz7eu/?raw=true [23:55]
asciilifeform: !!v F39A43AFF1A7387C523D765988F0CD19E01850895DB8E2681E7804809FD3B087 [23:55]
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated b41e209ccc264812. [23:55]
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