thelastpsychiatrist.com - Acadia Gives Up On ADP-104 -- Maybe It Shouldn't Have. Adnotated.

Thursday, 18 July, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

The headline says almost everything: Acadia shares plunge more than 50% on study data for schizophrenia drug. Turns out the drug didn't work at either of the two doses tested.

They should have called me first: their study was flawed.

High plasma levels of NDMC (ranging from 1200-4230ng/ml), approaching those of clozapine itself, have been observed in humans given clozapine. Moreover, several investigators have shown that the degree to which clozapine is converted to NDMC predicts clinical outcome on multiple measures of cognition, negative and positive symptoms, as well as quality of life. It is noteworthy that the ratio of NDMC to clozapine, rather than absolute levels of either clozapine or NDMC, was found to be the best predictor of a positive clinical outcome. This observation suggests that certain pharmacological properties of clozapine may actually counteract beneficial pharmacology of NDMC.

That's the premise. But the premise is wrong, the blood levels and the ratio of NDMC to clozapine are coincidences, they have nothing whatsoever to do with clinical outcome.

The authors try also to make a case that D4 blockade may be involved, or at least cause an "atypical" profile (e.g. low EPs, etc), but Thorazine and Haldol are potent D4 blockers, so there.

I am also aware of the considerable ink and paper spent describing the contributions of serotonergic pathways, but it is categorically true that there does not exist a drug that is a pure 5HT antagonist -- take your pick of subtype -- that works as an antipsychotic.

It is so far without exception that every efficacious antipsychotic has power of significant D2 blockade. Or, said another way, there does not exist any antipsychotic that lacks significant power for D2 blockade. Whatever the contribution of other receptors, it is overwhelmed by the presence, or absence of D2 blockade.i

Going from there, the single most important question that can be asked of any antipsychotic is: at what dose does this drug cause significant D2 blockade? Whatever the answer is, it is again certain that at a dose less than that, it will fail to provide any efficacy.

The article shows nearly equal D2 antagonist activity for clozapine and for NDMC, and one can conclude dosing will be similar, e.g. 300-500mg/d.

Unfortuantely, NDMC is also a partial agonist at low doses; so the dose needed for D2 blockade will be higher.

Acadia, the drug company, tested NDMC at 100mg/d and 200mg/d. It failed. This is a lot like saying one tested clozapine at 100mg, found significant side effects but no reliable efficacy, and canned it.

Acadia should try again. I am sure they worry that the side effects will get worse, but they won't.ii

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  1. The one contribution of bio-psychiatry to the field was the observation that schizophrenia mostly (or, if you believe in schizophrenia classification -- the major types by incidence) show remarkably high neurotransmission of dopamine. Disrupting the dopamine function does then result in a-state-that-isn't-typical-schizophrenia-anymore, it is true, but this is a little bit like saying "disrupting the normal sexuality of school-age children results in something that isn't typical school-age sexuality anymore". []
  2. The problem with all neuroleptic drugs (a heading which includes all major tranquilizers) is that you eat most of the downside -- in both side effects and organic damage -- starting at very low doses ; while any sort of benefit (either imagined or otherwise) only appears at significantly higher doses, typically once the liver's capacity for disposing of the poisons in question is finally overwhelmed. It's a lot like being a public slut : by the time you're naked on your knees, nobody at the party's gonna think much worse of you if you actually swallow a few loads, and certainly nobody's gonna think any better of you if you don't. So... exactly as he says : once you've taken a few miligrams, might as well hake the whole half gram, for all the good that'll do you.

    A lot of other psychoactives work exactly the same way, incidentally. By the time you've taken a few miligrams of cocaine (ie, the first few doses), might as well also take it by the gram (ie, the last few doses). Yes, it's true that it causes organic damage, but by the time you've given yourself a cocaine habit most of the damage's been done already anyway. []

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