Forum logs for 26 May 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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| decimation | http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/05/25/u-s-versus-german-infrastructure-spending-and-results/ < "?Quality, Not Just Quantity, of Infrastructure Needs Attention? (Wall Street Journal, May 20, 2015) has some interesting data. The U.S. has spent, adjusted for deprecation, 52 percent of GDP on ?public capital stock? (infrastructure such as roads, bridges, train tracks, etc.) while the Germans have spent just 35 percent of GDP. What | [00:11] |
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| ben_vulpes | not depreciation? | [00:18] |
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| decimation | ben_vulpes: eh? | [00:19] |
| asciilifeform | http://cryptome.org/2015/05/Guccifer-Ariana-Rockeller-Brand.pdf << lulzies. nobody cancelled the original lizards. | [00:19] |
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| decimation | asciilifeform: that presentation is hilarious. 'imma fashionable heiress can i haz ur moneyz' | [00:25] |
| asciilifeform | decimation: my understanding is that the thing was leaked. was prepared by a pr firm | [00:25] |
| asciilifeform | as a prospectus. | [00:25] |
| decimation | is this what passes as 'business' in new york? | [00:26] |
| asciilifeform | damned if i know. especially mystifying is the fact that someone, somewhere - pays for the service described in the document. | [00:27] |
| decimation | for me, if a pr firm submits a proposal in the form of powerpoint - automatic blacklist | [00:29] |
| asciilifeform | for all we know, this was inscribed on panda skin by virgins before being presented. | [00:32] |
| mod6 | i only accept 2d powerpoints | [00:33] |
| decimation | mod6: with or without 'transition animations'? | [00:41] |
| mod6 | with are preferred, ofc. | [00:41] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: "The U.S. has spent, adjusted for deprecationThe U.S. has spent, adjusted for deprecation" | [00:42] |
| ben_vulpes | herp derp | [00:42] |
| decimation | ah yes a common misspelling | [00:46] |
| decimation | although one wonders if he really mean depreciation? does he mean us infrastructure rots faster? | [00:48] |
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| mircea_popescu | Michail1> Heh. He likes to talk, but rarely in channel. His English is getting way better than it was only 6 months ago. << i wonder if anyone ever studied the interplay between so called "immigration" law and "scamming". | [01:08] |
| mircea_popescu | decimation that sounbds a little like trilema if i do say so myself :D | [01:09] |
| decimation | heh maybe greenspun reads you | [01:10] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes> not depreciation? << this is a particularly cogent question. the us fudges EVERYTHING, including the actual expenditure on infrastructure through, counting depreciation, counting future "financial costs" etc etc etc. half the political machine in the us works on pork contracts, which are all "infrastructure". that famous bridge in alaska was not even 1% of 1%. | [01:11] |
| mircea_popescu | a butthole-issued "20 to 25% gdp" is a much more reliable statistic than whatever the miniprop publishes. and it's definitely under germany. one needs but take a walk around detroit and frankfurt to see. | [01:12] |
| decimation | yeah the best comment on greenspun's article: "This is a subject and comparison that has been written about at length. German roads last longer because they are built substantially better than most U.S. roads. The German system of road construction relies on large long-term contracts with national companies that must build and maintain the roadway and are responsible for repairing any design and engineering defects. There is a powerfu | [01:12] |
| decimation | the us political system 'selects for' low-bid crony incompetents while strangling anyone with a clue | [01:13] |
| miaviator | Michail1 midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio | [01:16] |
| miaviator | Michail1 midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio | [01:16] |
| mircea_popescu | !up Michail1 | [01:16] |
| -assbot- | You voiced Michail1 for 30 minutes. | [01:16] |
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| mircea_popescu | decimation it's a mystery tho. france could also have good infrastructure. itdoes not. i doubt it's the "political" anything, they're about as equally retarded. | [01:18] |
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| trinque | at least in the american case I think there's a tacit understanding that at least one color of the two is there to loot the federal government, certainly not to do anything constructive | [01:40] |
| trinque | the fact that the "red states" tend to take more federal money lines up with that | [01:40] |
| trinque | and of course the second of the two colors are also there to loot, but they dress it up as something constructive | [01:41] |
| trinque | any idiot off the street will tell you that this "pork" is how it is, has been, will be | [01:41] |
| trinque | matter-of-fact-ly | [01:41] |
| trinque | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg | [01:44] |
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| ben_vulpes | http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34143564/ | [02:05] |
| ben_vulpes | "so I poisoned the DNS and rejected all outbound connection attempts on port 8333, to force all the wallets to connect to a single local full node, which had connectivity to a single remote node over the Internet. Thus, all the lightweight wallets at the festival had Bitcoin network connectivity, but we only needed to backhaul the Bitcoin network's transaction traffic once." | [02:06] |
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| ben_vulpes | spv's bad, mk? | [02:06] |
| ben_vulpes | moreover, bitcoining on other peoples networks is bad, mk? | [02:06] |
| trinque | ben_vulpes: they're seriously thinking of using that avahi turd in their bitcoind? | [02:09] |
| trinque | or some reimplementation thereof? | [02:10] |
| ben_vulpes | dude bitcoin-development 2015 is turning into bitcointalk.org 2012 | [02:11] |
| trinque | ah no nevermind | [02:13] |
| trinque | zeroconf looks to be "zero confirmation txn" in this usage | [02:13] |
| trinque | it also refers to the 169.254 autoconfig IPs and various other poetteringisms seen in avahi and bonjour | [02:13] |
| ben_vulpes | no no, someone thinks that's a grand idea | [02:18] |
| ben_vulpes | http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34143498/ << because a .conf file's too hard. | [02:19] |
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| trinque | oh good | [02:29] |
| trinque | "web of things" is the new web 2.0 | [02:29] |
| trinque | hordes of mouthbreathing visioneers incoming | [02:29] |
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| ben_vulpes | "The net result was that all Bitcoin nodes (lightweight and heavyweight) on the local Wi-Fi network were unable to connect to any Bitcoin nodes except for the local node, which they discovered via DNS." << and this is an argument for dns in core *how*? | [02:55] |
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| scoopbot_revived | Even educated fleas do it ! http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/26/even-educated-fleas-do-it/ | [04:27] |
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| mircea_popescu |
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| mircea_popescu | great way to keep the idiot sons employed, sure. but ideally you don't wantthem employed in congress, if at all possible. | [06:04] |
| mircea_popescu | avahi wait wut | [06:05] |
| mircea_popescu | in other news, this is why the girl should be taller than you : http://31.media.tumblr.com/20c2f2e3dd873ef89624ae370538a6da/tumblr_mub7xj0noX1sjfxgho1_400.gif | [06:07] |
| mircea_popescu | best explanation ever. | [06:07] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://8ch.net/btc/res/326.html lol | [06:19] |
| chetty | the guy spoke to SATOSHI so I'm pretty sure we should just trust what he says./// rolling eyes | [06:25] |
| fluffypony | meh, I spoke to Satoshi too | [06:30] |
| fluffypony | he makes an excellent Salmon California Roll | [06:30] |
| mircea_popescu | fucking cheese. | [06:31] |
| mircea_popescu | who puts cheese in fish i want to know. | [06:32] |
| cazalla | trying to think of a cheese/fish combo but can't think of anything that might taste nice | [06:33] |
| cazalla | some sorta cheese sauce on white fish mebe | [06:33] |
| mircea_popescu | smoked salmon works with a variety of harder cheeses, but i like my sushi rawq | [06:33] |
| cazalla | i do love blue cheese sauce with some chilli on a schnitty | [06:36] |
| cazalla | and i do make the best crumbed schnitty in australia | [06:36] |
| fluffypony | all jokes aside, I must agree | [06:37] |
| fluffypony | I eat sashimi over everything else | [06:37] |
| fluffypony | salmon and eel sashimi preferred | [06:37] |
| mircea_popescu | tuna and salmon | [06:37] |
| mircea_popescu | dunno about teh eel. i like it cooked. | [06:37] |
| chetty | ooo eel, havent has that in sooo long, now I am drooling | [06:38] |
| fluffypony | eel sashimi is cooked | [06:38] |
| fluffypony | otherwise afair it's poisonous | [06:38] |
| cazalla | more fugu! | [06:39] |
| mircea_popescu | i suppose it depends on the eel | [06:47] |
| cazalla | never had it, never even seen it for sale here at the fish markets | [06:54] |
| cazalla | there are some local eels not far from here but all the run off from the gutters run into the lake so i'm not game to eat from it (some old fucks catch their eels there and eat em) | [06:54] |
| mircea_popescu | all fish lives off shit. that's what it is. | [06:56] |
| cazalla | mind you i considered bagging a few ducks from the same lake | [06:58] |
| mircea_popescu | heh | [06:59] |
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| mircea_popescu | and in other news, http://i.imgur.com/x3aDjLs.gifv | [07:18] |
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| cazalla | i like turtles | [07:20] |
| scoopbot_revived | The Producers http://trilema.com/2015/the-producers/ | [07:24] |
| cazalla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VputHxyjL00 | [07:29] |
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| cazalla | i married a woman more frigid than janet, damnit | [09:26] |
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| mircea_popescu | eh you ever heard that "there's no such thing as frigid women, just unskilled men" ? | [09:27] |
| cazalla | exception that proves the rule | [09:28] |
| cazalla | ya heard that one? | [09:28] |
| mircea_popescu | hehe | [09:29] |
| mircea_popescu | so whadda ya do all day ? | [09:30] |
| cazalla | me or her? | [09:30] |
| cazalla | me.. read logs, look for news, look for work, stare out the window and think of what might be if i had not got her pregnant | [09:31] |
| cazalla | her.. cry, whinge, complain because kid pulls her hair, her washing off the clothes horse, food out her hand/mouth | [09:31] |
| cazalla | i mean god forbid, the poor woman is stuck reading books all day long | [09:31] |
| mircea_popescu | you two ever had a chat bout all this ? | [09:31] |
| cazalla | fucked if i am going to sit with the kid 24/7 | [09:31] |
| mircea_popescu | an' i dun mean a screaming match. | [09:31] |
| cazalla | yeah many times but i lock the door and stay in the computer (craft) room | [09:32] |
| cazalla | nah she doesn't scream or fight | [09:32] |
| cazalla | just cries | [09:32] |
| cazalla | maybe she has reason.. been around the world many times, me? never | [09:32] |
| cazalla | so she knows what she is missing | [09:32] |
| cazalla | me? not reary | [09:32] |
| cazalla | yet believe it or not she wants another | [09:33] |
| cazalla | and we tried last month and i thought of her friend the entire time.. half figured to tell her while banging her | [09:33] |
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| cazalla | but last thing i need is more tears | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu | another what ? | [09:34] |
| cazalla | bubs | [09:34] |
| cazalla | 2 of the mums at her mums group are already pregnant so i figure some jealousy or envy | [09:35] |
| cazalla | mind you, all mid 30s dried up vag type women | [09:35] |
| mircea_popescu | when do you want women to have kids, at 16 ? | [09:36] |
| cazalla | mine or anyones | [09:36] |
| cazalla | tbh i don't even know, i got duped by this conservation /pol/ shit just as i thought i was due to drop dead | [09:36] |
| cazalla | conservative even | [09:36] |
| cazalla | best gf i had | [09:37] |
| cazalla | love life wise | [09:37] |
| cazalla | was the one where we argued, things got smashed, cheated on each other | [09:37] |
| cazalla | was utter shit | [09:37] |
| * | mircea_popescu never cared much for that. | [09:37] |
| cazalla | but at least it was a passion love/hate fuck fest | [09:37] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144112 @ 0.00029655 = 42.7364 BTC [+] {2} | [09:37] |
| cazalla | i didn't think i did either but my missus won't as much raise her voice without crying | [09:37] |
| cazalla | it is like dealing with another toddler | [09:38] |
| cazalla | at least my son has an excuse, he's 16 months old, her? what excuse? | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu | what's she do for a living anyway ? | [09:38] |
| cazalla | nothing now | [09:38] |
| cazalla | prior to bubs.. marketing pr office shit | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu | an' before ? | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu | ah. | [09:38] |
| cazalla | what else eh | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu | so teach her something. | [09:38] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19438 @ 0.00029961 = 5.8238 BTC [+] | [09:38] |
| cazalla | what? | [09:38] |
| cazalla | she has her own hobbies | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu | anything you feel like. | [09:38] |
| cazalla | just can't afford the time atm for her stuff | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu | foirget that. just go, "woman, come over i wanna teach you to X" | [09:39] |
| cazalla | yeah she just isn't like that | [09:39] |
| cazalla | like i said.. exception that proves the rule | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu | how you know ? | [09:39] |
| cazalla | ya think they don't exist but they do | [09:39] |
| cazalla | cause i've tried | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu | so she cried ? | [09:39] |
| cazalla | over anything and everything | [09:39] |
| cazalla | cept instead of my abuse | [09:40] |
| cazalla | kid beats on her now | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu | ;/ | [09:40] |
| cazalla | pulls her hair, she cries, he laughs | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu | sounds like a shitty life. | [09:40] |
| cazalla | well i tell her to go out with the other mums | [09:40] |
| cazalla | but she acts as if she has 10 kids, not 1 | [09:40] |
| cazalla | but he is pretty full on | [09:40] |
| cazalla | i can't deal with it without resorting to smashing things | [09:41] |
| cazalla | so she is left to deal with it | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu | sounds like a pretty serious problem brewing. | [09:41] |
| cazalla | so what? ya belt a 16 month old? | [09:41] |
| cazalla | they dont understand at that age | [09:41] |
| cazalla | like i said before he's like a jew | [09:42] |
| cazalla | he hits you and cries out in pain when you respond | [09:42] |
| davout | cazalla: moar money than you? | [09:42] |
| cazalla | davout, yup and by a huge fucking mile | [09:42] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54720 @ 0.00029084 = 15.9148 BTC [-] | [09:42] |
| cazalla | davout, i bitched about this before mind you.. her father provided everything.. and i mean EVERYTHING | [09:42] |
| cazalla | woman doesn't know how to really do anything | [09:43] |
| davout | i was referring to the jewish baby | [09:43] |
| cazalla | oh | [09:43] |
| cazalla | well by default yeah i guess so he wants for nothing | [09:43] |
| cazalla | never enough for toddlers though | [09:43] |
| cazalla | my earliest memory is getting a beating | [09:43] |
| mircea_popescu | i think jdif is toddler default | [09:43] |
| cazalla | this kid? doubt it | [09:43] |
| mircea_popescu | some outgrow it | [09:43] |
| cazalla | i went fucking mental the other week at her | [09:44] |
| cazalla | she tells me.. (on account of her sister/mother) that he won't get into a good school on account he is not christianed | [09:44] |
| mircea_popescu | cause jewish ? | [09:44] |
| cazalla | lol no | [09:44] |
| cazalla | just stupid | [09:45] |
| cazalla | not that i am super smart | [09:45] |
| mircea_popescu | davout did you manage to get that pogo going btw ? | [09:45] |
| cazalla | but i am not christianed either | [09:45] |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla i think it's christened. | [09:45] |
| cazalla | let him go to a montessori school if not privately tutored | [09:45] |
| cazalla | maybe but i am drunk like a fish | [09:46] |
| mircea_popescu | what's wrong with public schools ? | [09:46] |
| cazalla | it can be xistied for all i care | [09:46] |
| cazalla | here? nothing when i was that age | [09:46] |
| cazalla | now? full of riff raff | [09:46] |
| mircea_popescu | so ? | [09:46] |
| cazalla | he'd prob get beat up by the nig nogs | [09:46] |
| mircea_popescu | well... | [09:46] |
| davout | mircea_popescu: well yes, stuck at the part where i need to put an bitcoind arm binary on the thing | [09:46] |
| mircea_popescu | at least he gets used to it. | [09:46] |
| cazalla | where as i fought and won many fights | [09:46] |
| cazalla | yeah but i grew up fighting a grown man (my father) | [09:46] |
| cazalla | so taking on 2-3 kids was nothing | [09:46] |
| davout | an as far as i understand we need to have a static build first, which we don't | [09:46] |
| cazalla | dont really have the heart to give him a flogging like my father did me | [09:47] |
| cazalla | my father would flog me with a jug cord when i was lucky | [09:47] |
| mircea_popescu | davout well... in the absolute purist sense we won't for a while, on account of how thoroughly corrupt the stack is. | [09:47] |
| cazalla | otherwise it was punches, many a time spent on the ground gasping for air because he winded me | [09:47] |
| mircea_popescu | but... there is a cvasi-functional build dpb's been using | [09:47] |
| cazalla | now i figure it was because my father had his own inadequiancies | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla the way i view it, especially seeing how it's other people's work & labour, | [09:48] |
| cazalla | but eventually, i toppled even him | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu | public school's a great boon. let him fail early. | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu | rather than grow up to be 30 and THEN discover he really has no place in the world. | [09:48] |
| cazalla | mircea_popescu, but public school here is not the school of hard knocks i went to, it's the school of sjw now | [09:48] |
| davout | if there's a way to get bitcoind running on the buildroot install i'm interested, my pogo, is waiting, with it's SSD plugged in and all | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu | davout you looked through his notes ? | [09:49] |
| davout | i don't really care that much if it isn't 'pure' | [09:49] |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla whatever it may be. public school, it's what it is, by definition, like a floating piece of wood on water, always level. | [09:49] |
| cazalla | remidns me, i need to get my pogo up and going | [09:49] |
| davout | yeah i did | [09:49] |
| cazalla | level with what | [09:50] |
| mircea_popescu | the public. | [09:50] |
| cazalla | but the public today are weak | [09:50] |
| cazalla | at least, even 30 years ago, you'd cop a beating from someone | [09:50] |
| mircea_popescu | so what, you'll build him a speshul earth ? | [09:50] |
| cazalla | now men of tody are scared to even talk to kids | [09:50] |
| cazalla | nope | [09:50] |
| cazalla | if i have my way i'll take him out bush | [09:50] |
| mircea_popescu | well maybe not at 16 months. | [09:50] |
| cazalla | australia is fucked beyond repair | [09:51] |
| cazalla | only took 30 years | [09:51] |
| cazalla | tbh i blame lack of aunts/uncles/relatives/grandparents for all this shit | [09:51] |
| cazalla | when i grew up, it's all i knew | [09:51] |
| cazalla | my son? 1 cousin, 1 uncle, 1 aunty, grand parents live far away, fucking nothing | [09:52] |
| cazalla | so the mother bares all the burden | [09:52] |
| cazalla | i got tossed all around the place just a few decades ago if not i went my own way | [09:52] |
| cazalla | fucking country of pussies | [09:52] |
| cazalla | someone cussing out muslims makes the mainstream media for hate crimes | [09:53] |
| cazalla | meanwhile fags were bashed on live tv 25 years ago | [09:53] |
| mircea_popescu | heh | [09:53] |
| cazalla | literally | [09:53] |
| cazalla | fuck australia | [09:53] |
| cazalla | hope the indochinese come and rape everyone | [09:53] |
| cazalla | give them a real reason to cry | [09:53] |
| copypaste | cazalla: https://8ch.net/hola.html | [09:54] |
| copypaste | Sorry. Site went down four times before I admitted defeat. | [09:54] |
| copypaste | I offered to pay the Jews off via email, maybe they will accept my offer. | [09:54] |
| cazalla | yeah i know about that shitty plugin | [09:54] |
| mircea_popescu | copypaste you know i've been seeing a lot of wobble | [09:54] |
| cazalla | 8chan is dead already | [09:55] |
| mircea_popescu | o.O | [09:55] |
| cazalla | all it took was some jews with some plugins | [09:55] |
| copypaste | hehe | [09:55] |
| copypaste | it's worse than that | [09:55] |
| copypaste | all imageboards without CAPTCHA are dead | [09:55] |
| copypaste | due to this plugin. just a matter of it getting big enough for a spammer to find it fun to spam. | [09:55] |
| davout | cazalla: you sound bitter, the cool thing about australia though is that you can easily go live in the middle of nowhere and get away form other humans | [09:55] |
| cazalla | but we dont have captcha here | [09:55] |
| cazalla | maybe you add assbot to 8chan eh? | [09:55] |
| mircea_popescu | copypaste o wow, leveraged tor ? | [09:55] |
| cazalla | davout, not bitter, just betrayede | [09:56] |
| copypaste | yes, basically Tor but a much larger network | [09:56] |
| copypaste | 9M exits srong | [09:56] |
| copypaste | 0.2% of IP space. | [09:56] |
| cazalla | davout, and you can't go live in the middle of fucking nowhere, middle of nowhere IS THE FUCKING DESERT | [09:56] |
| mircea_popescu | copypaste bring it back on a pgp backend. | [09:56] |
| cazalla | i can't imagine a better scenario for wot than 8chana | [09:56] |
| mircea_popescu | ^ | [09:56] |
| davout | cazalla: yeah well exactly, you don't get cable tv | [09:56] |
| aabtc | Adlai alaricsp alphonse23_ AmbitionzAzARida Anduck Apocalyptic artifexd asciilifeform assbot Azelphur | [09:57] |
| mircea_popescu | copypaste also, can i has mah banner on your dead page ? :D | [09:57] |
| copypaste | dead page? | [09:58] |
| copypaste | the site's not dead. just requires a CAPTCHA. | [09:58] |
| mircea_popescu | oh oh sorry my bad | [09:58] |
| cazalla | you know if you added a wot requirement to post, people would either capitulate and join or leave | [09:58] |
| mircea_popescu | i misunderstood. | [09:58] |
| cazalla | both scenario is good outcome | [09:58] |
| mircea_popescu | copypaste i thought you were ddosed into the ground. | [09:58] |
| copypaste | nah, it was a layer 7 DoS against post.pp | [09:59] |
| cazalla | fucking winter so cold here | [09:59] |
| cazalla | we have ducted heating but.. gets too hot | [09:59] |
| copypaste | i'll think about it some more in the morning. what would stop bots from generating PGP keys? unless i forced them into being at a certain PGp level of course | [09:59] |
| cazalla | wow | [09:59] |
| cazalla | copypaste l2p | [09:59] |
| mircea_popescu | copypaste for one thing, generating keys is reasonably intensive | [09:59] |
| cazalla | i can go and create 6 million pgp keys | [09:59] |
| cazalla | what standing would that give me here? | [09:59] |
| copypaste | as i said | [10:00] |
| copypaste | unless i force them into being at a certain WoT level | [10:00] |
| cazalla | so whip it | [10:00] |
| copypaste | but at that point it's no longer an anonymous BBS. | [10:00] |
| cazalla | whip it good | [10:00] |
| davout | copypaste: also feed them to phuctor | [10:00] |
| mircea_popescu | copypaste in truth all imagebnoards were always pseudonymous | [10:00] |
| mircea_popescu | you can't have absolute anonimitycan you. | [10:00] |
| copypaste | true. well, 8chan lets you post over Tor. | [10:00] |
| copypaste | if you fill out a captcha and stand on one leg while sticking your tongue out | [10:00] |
| copypaste | :) | [10:00] |
| copypaste | fullchan4jtta4sx.onion | [10:01] |
| mircea_popescu | copypaste this is how pgp evens the odds : a new sig costs about 10x more cycles to make | [10:01] |
| mircea_popescu | than the spam costs you | [10:01] |
| copypaste | well, that's only for a secure public key. | [10:01] |
| copypaste | i could make a PGP key with just any data. | [10:01] |
| mircea_popescu | ips were cheap before, and you still could handle it. now that they became much cheaper they also became a problem | [10:01] |
| copypaste | it doesn't need to be secure if i just want to spam | [10:01] |
| copypaste | that's true | [10:01] |
| mircea_popescu | and you can replace captcha with pgp challenge | [10:03] |
| cazalla | more more more | [10:03] |
| mircea_popescu | always on for 1st use, or if spammy. | [10:03] |
| mircea_popescu | like this : | [10:03] |
| mircea_popescu | !rate herp 1 derp | [10:03] |
| assbot | herp is not registered in WoT. | [10:03] |
| mircea_popescu | meh | [10:03] |
| mircea_popescu | !rate cazalla 1 derp | [10:03] |
| assbot | Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/9ce79021008ac55f | [10:03] |
| cazalla | i don't really care | [10:03] |
| mircea_popescu | you put that on the page, they verify they can use pgp, that's it. | [10:03] |
| cazalla | was drunk before, will be a drunk after | [10:03] |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla i was getting an otp to show hw dood. | [10:04] |
| cazalla | nah you were being passive aggressive | [10:04] |
| cazalla | lol | [10:04] |
| mircea_popescu | lol. im rarely agressive and never passive. | [10:04] |
| cazalla | on the defensive? | [10:04] |
| cazalla | i'll sell you my missus for 1 btc | [10:05] |
| cazalla | what says you | [10:05] |
| cazalla | copypaste, taker? | [10:05] |
| cazalla | fuck i'll give her away for free | [10:05] |
| cazalla | not even shitting you | [10:05] |
| mircea_popescu | there's ~3bn women i don't know out there, and at most 20mn btc | [10:05] |
| mircea_popescu | you do the math. | [10:05] |
| cazalla | don't even need to | [10:05] |
| cazalla | a satoshi? | [10:06] |
| cazalla | i shouldn't even be in this fucking situation | [10:06] |
| mircea_popescu | well so get out then. | [10:06] |
| * | wao has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | [10:06] |
| cazalla | bit difficult when a kid is involved | [10:06] |
| cazalla | maybe bitcoin will allow me to have another missus elsewhere | [10:07] |
| mircea_popescu | or maybe jesus will. | [10:07] |
| cazalla | but i'll never leave/ditch her on account of her mothering my son | [10:07] |
| cazalla | she's a good mum mind you | [10:07] |
| mircea_popescu | so then. | [10:07] |
| cazalla | just a shitty missus/lay/fuck/cook/cleaner/talker | [10:07] |
| cazalla | imagine a woman that can't even cook | [10:07] |
| cazalla | she tried to cook me a meal last week when i did a one day first aid course | [10:08] |
| mircea_popescu | neway copypaste dun despair man. as seinfeld rabi says, "often, in life, there are problems - and just as often, there are solutions" | [10:08] |
| cazalla | wasn't even ready by 10pm | [10:08] |
| cazalla | told her to fuck it and put it in the bin | [10:08] |
| cazalla | how hard is it to cook lamb shanks | [10:08] |
| mircea_popescu | so teach her how to cook. | [10:08] |
| * | assbot gives voice to Adlai | [10:08] |
| cazalla | in a slow cooker | [10:08] |
| cazalla | why should i teach her? her father/mother should've | [10:08] |
| cazalla | she's mid 30s | [10:08] |
| mircea_popescu | i'll tell you : she prolly set it too low because she was trying too hard not to fuck up. | [10:08] |
| cazalla | not for me to teach her anything at that age | [10:08] |
| cazalla | yeah i know exactly what you mean | [10:09] |
| mircea_popescu | dude forget shoulds. she's your wife, no shoulds. | [10:09] |
| cazalla | fucks up because of fear of fucking up | [10:09] |
| cazalla | she really needs a beating | [10:09] |
| cazalla | just to have a good cry if anything | [10:09] |
| mircea_popescu | not so far. | [10:09] |
| Adlai | think of it (teaching her to cook) as an investment in your children's mother/teacher | [10:09] |
| cazalla | fwiw i dont think anyone needs to be taught to cook | [10:09] |
| cazalla | should come from within | [10:10] |
| cazalla | i never read much as half a cook book | [10:10] |
| mircea_popescu | you don't beat women for existing eh. beating is corrective or perhaps aesthetic, not fucking psychological release. | [10:10] |
| cazalla | but i can cook | [10:10] |
| mircea_popescu | well aintcha a little bush hero :D | [10:10] |
| cazalla | Adlai, i cook the kid's meals, not her | [10:10] |
| mircea_popescu | erryone that knows to cook does, and erryone who doesn't doesn't. either teach her or else suffar. | [10:10] |
| Adlai | exactly why you should teach her, so you don't have to do it all yourself | [10:10] |
| cazalla | mircea_popescu, yeah well i stomped grapes, she didn't, there ya go | [10:10] |
| cazalla | Adlai, i love cooking | [10:10] |
| cazalla | cooking is like breathing | [10:11] |
| Adlai | except my kitchen doesn't turn into a garbage dump from people just standing there breathing | [10:11] |
| mircea_popescu | Adlai they've got one hell of a thing going, woman fucks up because she's too petrified of doing a bad job an' disappointing him, and he won't teach her because he's petrified of not being able to, and disappointing her. | [10:11] |
| mircea_popescu | you two need to get over each other. | [10:11] |
| cazalla | mircea_popescu, no-one taught me | [10:11] |
| mircea_popescu | so ? | [10:12] |
| cazalla | yet i can cook for a king or pleb | [10:12] |
| mircea_popescu | what, the world is equal to your own personal experience ? | [10:12] |
| cazalla | well now, we've all gotta eat | [10:12] |
| cazalla | and by eat | [10:12] |
| mircea_popescu | i bet no one breastfed you, either. | [10:12] |
| cazalla | i mean eat | [10:12] |
| Adlai | "it takes a tough man to cook a tender chicken" or teach a good lesson | [10:12] |
| cazalla | mircea_popescu, 2 years | [10:12] |
| cazalla | so clearly i hate on the bitch for only managing 12 months | [10:12] |
| mircea_popescu | eh don't sell yourself short, you prolly made that tit. | [10:13] |
| cazalla | and she only did it because i forced it | [10:13] |
| cazalla | or, just like the rest of the mothers in her "mums group" she would've gone to formula | [10:13] |
| mircea_popescu | "The terms are simple: you get the first $1,000 every new Luminati customer that you referred, spends with us." | [10:13] |
| cazalla | may as well toss the kid in the bin at that point like a fucked up meal | [10:13] |
| cazalla | who ever heard of this bullshit that breastfeeding is something most women can't do | [10:14] |
| cazalla | yet down under.. standard | [10:14] |
| mircea_popescu | notwithstanding the inconvenience this is causing our friend, interesting service. | [10:14] |
| mircea_popescu | in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/ac2966bbf55bb0146933fc09d63e3e92/tumblr_myszimu3Y61s7i603o1_400.gif | [10:15] |
| mircea_popescu | fucking performance. | [10:15] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67980 @ 0.00029027 = 19.7326 BTC [-] {3} | [10:16] |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla listen, in any case : you gotta do things together. that's the long and the short of it. now, if she sucks then what you do will be training, but there's no out of this. | [10:18] |
| cazalla | i forget if i read this on trilema | [10:18] |
| cazalla | or some other site | [10:18] |
| cazalla | the things that attract you to someone in the beginning are things you end up hating about that preson | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu | if this is the case you got a problem. | [10:19] |
| cazalla | yeah i know this | [10:19] |
| cazalla | i know i ahve a problem | [10:19] |
| cazalla | sorta what i am whining about eh | [10:19] |
| cazalla | no kid? i'd be gone already | [10:19] |
| cazalla | kid? | [10:19] |
| cazalla | bit of a degenerate to abandon him | [10:19] |
| cazalla | if i drop dead at 50 and he takes the lot so be it | [10:20] |
| mircea_popescu | so you got yourself a conflict. better stuff of life. | [10:20] |
| cazalla | won't leave him without a father though | [10:20] |
| mircea_popescu | it is, notably, not the woman's fault that you got yourself a conflict. | [10:20] |
| cazalla | nope, not her fault at all | [10:20] |
| cazalla | my own fault | [10:20] |
| cazalla | 100% | [10:20] |
| cazalla | which is why i stay and suffer | [10:20] |
| mircea_popescu | and in the latest eulora news : today's bug is, "mp just got a large mining find, so large in fact that it didn't fit in his mining claim, so it got truncated." | [10:21] |
| cazalla | would be easy to leave if i ascribed 100% of the blame to her | [10:21] |
| mircea_popescu | who fucking knew, before today, this is a problem o.O | [10:21] |
| cazalla | she's mine, he's mine | [10:21] |
| cazalla | and that is that and if it kills me so be it, he'll have a father to do things with and so it goes | [10:21] |
| cazalla | rahter off myself than leave him alone with her | [10:22] |
| mircea_popescu | i somehow dun think it'll kill ya | [10:22] |
| cazalla | well it all adds up eh | [10:22] |
| cazalla | already aged 10 years in the past 16 months | [10:22] |
| cazalla | stopped drinking for 2-3 year before he sprung up | [10:22] |
| cazalla | no-one puts the drink to my mouth mind you | [10:23] |
| mircea_popescu | right. | [10:23] |
| cazalla | i mean tbh sometimes i regret even waking up | [10:23] |
| cazalla | it'd be nice to just lay down, sleep and that's that | [10:23] |
| mircea_popescu | heh | [10:23] |
| cazalla | no better way to go | [10:24] |
| cazalla | and i've seen worse | [10:24] |
| cazalla | trains | [10:24] |
| cazalla | car | [10:24] |
| cazalla | necked | [10:24] |
| mircea_popescu | http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb8zahcz491rsv2j1o1_1280.png << i wonder why these never caught on. | [10:24] |
| cazalla | bed is bliss in comparison | [10:24] |
| mircea_popescu | diamond ring for wedding, whore necklace for divorce | [10:24] |
| cazalla | anyway just as my wife is, youare the exception to the rule so futile to compare | [10:25] |
| cazalla | would ya believe though it was nothing less than a mexican negro half caste which convinced me about this woman | [10:25] |
| cazalla | all because she played zelda | [10:26] |
| cazalla | fuck me and my youth | [10:26] |
| mircea_popescu | lol wut ? | [10:26] |
| cazalla | "gamer girlfriend" | [10:26] |
| cazalla | FUCK YOU PIPEDREAM! | [10:26] |
| mircea_popescu | what a criterion lol. | [10:26] |
| cazalla | should've gone to the locale catholic or even mormon church to find a woman | [10:26] |
| cazalla | haah i know right | [10:26] |
| cazalla | western man | [10:27] |
| cazalla | chasing a waifu gamer girl | [10:27] |
| cazalla | what a fucking con that was | [10:27] |
| cazalla | they play fucking iphone games | [10:27] |
| cazalla | and she does to this day | [10:27] |
| mircea_popescu | here's one for you : the only she-assassin i ever met actually proposed to me. | [10:27] |
| cazalla | playing some bastardised plants vs zombies shit | [10:27] |
| mircea_popescu | she sounded a lot like you, amusingly. about as drunk. | [10:27] |
| cazalla | an ex gf wanted to get amrried and have kids | [10:27] |
| cazalla | was emailing me blocks of land many years ago | [10:28] |
| cazalla | fucked her off | [10:28] |
| mircea_popescu | an' why ? | [10:28] |
| cazalla | because no woman i met was really like that | [10:28] |
| cazalla | most australian women are like men | [10:28] |
| cazalla | want to fuck and part ways | [10:28] |
| mircea_popescu | aha | [10:28] |
| cazalla | seriously surprised i even spawned a kid | [10:29] |
| cazalla | if it wasnt for the fact he looks like a carbon copy | [10:29] |
| cazalla | i'd go innawoods | [10:29] |
| cazalla | if it wasnt for him | [10:30] |
| cazalla | live on crown land | [10:30] |
| cazalla | little hut | [10:30] |
| cazalla | chop some wood | [10:30] |
| cazalla | more lumber mi lord | [10:30] |
| mircea_popescu | no interwebs ? | [10:30] |
| cazalla | be happy to ditch it at this point tbh | [10:30] |
| cazalla | maybe login, download logs/emails and that be that | [10:31] |
| cazalla | no www shit is worth a shit at this point or has been for years, gaming is dead for at least a decade | [10:31] |
| cazalla | it is all fucked | [10:31] |
| cazalla | all fucked | [10:31] |
| cazalla | fucked | [10:31] |
| mircea_popescu | from experience, this retirement thing lasts about a year | [10:31] |
| mircea_popescu | three if you're very stubborn | [10:31] |
| cazalla | then let me die within 3 years | [10:31] |
| cazalla | all i want is a bit more land | [10:31] |
| cazalla | small orchard, more gardens, live stock | [10:32] |
| cazalla | compy 386 to grab some files for some reading | [10:32] |
| cazalla | i specifically remember this point in high school thinking about the future | [10:32] |
| cazalla | nothing has fkn changed | [10:33] |
| cazalla | maybe a bit of lipstick on the pig that is hte internet | [10:33] |
| cazalla | but really nothing has changed | [10:33] |
| cazalla | fuck this gay earth | [10:33] |
| mircea_popescu | well... better video. | [10:33] |
| cazalla | not even | [10:34] |
| * | yhwh_ (~yhwh@unaffiliated/yhwh/x-6819798) has joined #bitcoin-assets | [10:34] |
| cazalla | shitty 320*200 jpg got me more exicted than the 4k porn of today | [10:34] |
| cazalla | better people too | [10:35] |
| cazalla | "better class of people" | [10:35] |
| mircea_popescu | meh. 20 years ago chicks kinda sucked at sex. | [10:38] |
| cazalla | zzzzzzzzzz | [10:41] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57317 @ 0.00029724 = 17.0369 BTC [+] {2} | [10:46] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.0002863 = 9.0757 BTC [-] {2} | [10:53] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/stats < did the loader script die or something / | [10:53] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53886 @ 0.00028618 = 15.4211 BTC [-] | [10:56] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: nope. last night when got home, turned on experiment where it snarfs from pre-filtered (i.e. having rsa moduli) keys | [11:01] |
| asciilifeform | still not caught up yet though | [11:02] |
| asciilifeform | possibly tonight will write a civilized loader which forgoes the idiocy of setting up http connection for each key submitted and pumps straight into the db | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu | ah cool. | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu | what's whis by now, phuctor three major and twelve minor revisiona later | [11:04] |
| asciilifeform | 1 major | [11:04] |
| asciilifeform | lost-count-how-many minor | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu | let's argue about classification! | [11:04] |
| asciilifeform | l0l | [11:04] |
| asciilifeform | btw that cazalla thread would make for great reading alongside of the 'why not have children' thread from during c3 | [11:05] |
| mircea_popescu | it's not for everyone. | [11:06] |
| mircea_popescu | actually... there's that chinese dizident | [11:06] |
| asciilifeform | which thing is for everyone? only death, afaik, is definitely 'for everyone.' | [11:06] |
| mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2012/cine-se-casatoreste/ | [11:06] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform not even death. definitely not for woody allen & co. | [11:07] |
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| mod6 | i should have waited on my key-retest. lol, got 119764 infront of it in the queue now. | [11:08] |
| mircea_popescu | mod6 i think they're behind not in front | [11:09] |
| mod6 | ah, well, at first there was only 2 in Moduli Remaining, but that number has been climbing. | [11:11] |
| mod6 | no worries. | [11:11] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: that article is a tough cookie for my puny brain | [11:12] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: consider brief spoiler ? | [11:12] |
| mircea_popescu | it's insanely hard to translate, because as written it's nearly pure poetry. | [11:12] |
| mircea_popescu | but i shall endeavour. | [11:12] |
| asciilifeform | i get this. | [11:12] |
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| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-05-2015#1145303 << mircea_popescu went to school with built-in graveyard ? | [11:23] |
| assbot | Logged on 26-05-2015 12:44:10; mircea_popescu: public school's a great boon. let him fail early. | [11:23] |
| mircea_popescu | howssat ? | [11:25] |
| asciilifeform | in context of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-05-2015#1145304 | [11:25] |
| assbot | Logged on 26-05-2015 12:44:32; mircea_popescu: rather than grow up to be 30 and THEN discover he really has no place in the world. | [11:25] |
| asciilifeform | the basic observation is sound, in that we have a 'mouse experiment' situation where men (specifically) are built considerably in excess of how many 'places' are to be had for them | [11:26] |
| mircea_popescu | myeah. | [11:28] |
| asciilifeform | but outside of quasi-mythical sparta, the winnowing in the past was worked by 'four horsemen' rather than specially-designed school | [11:28] |
| mircea_popescu | nobody died when/where i went to schoo, contrary to whining to the contrary. | [11:32] |
| mircea_popescu | idem in the army (not that i went, but i can count as well as anyone) | [11:32] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: so what cut down the superfluous males ? | [11:35] |
| asciilifeform | (implication was - that they died. unless i misread) | [11:35] |
| mircea_popescu | no, implication was that they came to terms with their life. | [11:36] |
| mircea_popescu | why perpetuate the delusion, at great cost and for no benefit ? | [11:36] |
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| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/he-who-gets-married/ | [12:03] |
| davout | danielpbarron asciilifeform re mircea_popescu's comments earlier regarding bitcoind's pogo, is there any way that i can get it running on the buildroot install before we actually manage to pull-off a static build? | [12:03] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54225 @ 0.00029239 = 15.8548 BTC [+] | [12:05] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: they came to terms with their life. << did i forget to take my morning lsd today, or what? who and where ever 'came to terms with their life' ? | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu | is that a quote ? | [12:09] |
| asciilifeform | which | [12:10] |
| asciilifeform | 1st sentence - no | [12:10] |
| asciilifeform | just statement of utter bewilderment | [12:10] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43874 @ 0.0002983 = 13.0876 BTC [+] | [12:11] |
| mircea_popescu | Dear Judge Forrest, | [12:12] |
| mircea_popescu | I am writing you this letter in anticipation of my upcoming sentencing. This is a challenging letter to write because, as one who faces punishment, I have a strong incentive to say anything I think might result in leniency. But I have endeavored to be honest and forthright throughout this process, and so I will be in this letter as well. | [12:12] |
| mircea_popescu | example. | [12:13] |
| asciilifeform | what next, link to confessions from the trials of '37 ? | [12:13] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41050 @ 0.00029239 = 12.0026 BTC [-] | [12:13] |
| mircea_popescu | "If I had realized the impact my creation of Silk Road would ultimately have on the people I care about most, I never would have created Silk Road." | [12:13] |
| mircea_popescu | hey. | [12:13] |
| mircea_popescu | i never bought into the trotskist explainatorism. | [12:14] |
| mircea_popescu | to me, it stands, as what they said. | [12:14] |
| asciilifeform | the gods could write a riotously funny book of what folks said while sitting on stakes, boiling in oil, etc | [12:14] |
| mircea_popescu | tough. | [12:14] |
| mircea_popescu | weird notion, that somehow "justice" creates a responsibility vacuum. | [12:15] |
| asciilifeform | interestingly, it is a well-documented fact that when ivan iv sat his courtiers down on stakes, a very common (if not most common) last few hours was shouting 'god save the king' | [12:15] |
| mircea_popescu | meanwhile, there's this woman, who was arrested in '52 alongisde her two year old daughter. | [12:15] |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla doesn't think much of his wife, but this woman raised a child while hiding in the mountains | [12:16] |
| mircea_popescu | with her own gun. two winters up there, with her guy. who, also arrested. | [12:16] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: and rogozov performed a self-appendectomy in the antarctic. | [12:16] |
| asciilifeform | what of it. | [12:16] |
| mircea_popescu | everything of it. what of the rest ? | [12:16] |
| asciilifeform | what's of it is that you can't be on the edge of every single human performance envelope | [12:17] |
| asciilifeform | three or four - granted. | [12:17] |
| asciilifeform | all of them? lsd. | [12:17] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.0002983 = 8.1287 BTC [+] | [12:17] |
| mircea_popescu | this one, and another of your choice. | [12:18] |
| mircea_popescu | this one alone will do. | [12:18] |
| asciilifeform | this one alone sums up to afghanistan. | [12:18] |
| mircea_popescu | three or four or fifty nine others - unlikely. | [12:18] |
| asciilifeform | i do not look up to afghanistan as peak of human culture. but that's just imho. | [12:18] |
| mircea_popescu | culture, no. but culture is not the goal. | [12:18] |
| mircea_popescu | culture is merely the byproduct. | [12:19] |
| asciilifeform | let me guess of what | [12:19] |
| scoopbot_revived | He who gets married.... http://trilema.com/2015/he-who-gets-married/ | [12:19] |
| asciilifeform | of surviving ? | [12:20] |
| asciilifeform | e. coli has us beat hands down, at that | [12:20] |
| mircea_popescu | depends what you mean by surviving. | [12:20] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.0002983 = 7.4277 BTC [+] | [12:24] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: how did the mountain episode end ? | [12:25] |
| mircea_popescu | she died. | [12:25] |
| mircea_popescu | http://www.eroinenucsoara.ro/maria-plop-ro.php | [12:25] |
| asciilifeform | everybody dies | [12:26] |
| mircea_popescu | she died in prison a year or so later. | [12:27] |
| mircea_popescu | and i will point out that this is not performance. | [12:27] |
| asciilifeform | according to the link, did surrender eventually | [12:27] |
| mircea_popescu | everything else, including dance, is performance. this is merely being. | [12:28] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform sure, no find me the "Dear judge fuckwit" bit. | [12:28] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: do you know the story of schrodinger's public pant-shitting ? | [12:28] |
| asciilifeform | where he wrote a similar letter to hitler | [12:29] |
| asciilifeform | which - didn't work | [12:29] |
| mircea_popescu | myeah | [12:29] |
| mircea_popescu | note that im not proposing he's any worse a physicist for it. | [12:29] |
| asciilifeform | one would imagine folks would've learned by now | [12:29] |
| asciilifeform | not to do this | [12:29] |
| mircea_popescu | i wouldn't let him marry my daughter on the account. | [12:29] |
| asciilifeform | iirc he never lacked a harem | [12:30] |
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| mircea_popescu | that was einstein | [12:31] |
| mircea_popescu | this guy merely had a a live-in gf. | [12:31] |
| asciilifeform | schrodinger was, iirc, fired from oxford for 'bigamy' | [12:32] |
| mircea_popescu | more or less. but seriously, who doesn't. | [12:32] |
| asciilifeform | l0l | [12:33] |
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| mircea_popescu | amusingly, the schrodinger letter to the adolf hitler university senate is not to be found in english | [12:44] |
| mircea_popescu | freedom of derp. | [12:44] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5000 @ 0.0002225 = 1.1125 BTC [-] | [12:54] |
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| ben_vulpes | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/jeremy-warner/11616509/Jeremy-Warner-How-Iraq-has-left-us-with-the-biggest-financial-bubble-in-history.html | [14:19] |
| ben_vulpes | "It is also true that contrary to much prediction at the time, it has not proved particularly inflationary." | [14:20] |
| ben_vulpes | "One thing it has done, however, is put a renewed rocket under asset prices. From fine art and metropolitan property prices, to bond markets and equities, seemingly everything has gone through the roof." | [14:20] |
| ben_vulpes | how | [14:20] |
| ben_vulpes | do people | [14:20] |
| ben_vulpes | reconcile | [14:20] |
| ben_vulpes | this shit | [14:20] |
| ben_vulpes | "it's not inflationary except in how it is" | [14:20] |
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| scoopbot_revived | just another day in sunny cascadia http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/05/26_just-another-day-in-sunny-cascadia.html | [14:29] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30629 @ 0.00029973 = 9.1804 BTC [+] {2} | [14:48] |
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| ascii_field | ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Miscellany:Confession_to_the_F%C3%BChrer << schrödinger's shameful letter. english. | [14:49] |
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| ascii_field | ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.vivid.ro/vivid65/pages65/feature65.htm << not entirely unknown in english world | [15:05] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [15:05] |
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| BingoBoingo | http://fusion.net/story/139703/self-parking-car-accident-no-pedestrian-detection/ | [15:12] |
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| trinque | ben_vulpes: I think obedience runs (and mustn't it run) far deeper than reason | [15:16] |
| trinque | inflation is the govt figure published for inflation | [15:17] |
| trinque | that's what it *is* | [15:17] |
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| mircea_popescu | ascii_field o joy! | [15:23] |
| mircea_popescu | nice find | [15:23] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes way of lyf. | [15:24] |
| mircea_popescu | ascii_field .ro is romania >D | [15:24] |
| asciilifeform | !up ascii_field | [15:26] |
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| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: well yes but it sprechens inglisch | [15:27] |
| mircea_popescu | yeh | [15:28] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17042 @ 0.00029942 = 5.1027 BTC [-] | [15:42] |
| trinque | hm #bitcoin-assets (or really freenode) just told me I'm not an op of #b-a | [15:44] |
| trinque | don't believe I performed any operations which would require that... | [15:45] |
| ascii_field | 'futarchy' ?! | [15:48] |
| ascii_field | http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/05/futarchy-considered-retarded.html << obligatory mr mold ! | [15:48] |
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| scoopbot_revived | Former Vault of Satoshi Customers in a Lurch http://qntra.net/2015/05/former-vault-of-satoshi-customers-in-a-lurch/ | [16:16] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.0002999 = 2.7891 BTC [+] | [16:58] |
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| trinque | jurov: whoever wrote that sounds like a drooling moron | [17:11] |
| trinque | "prediction markets" ... "not a real-money market" ... *predictions down to the cent on price/node count* | [17:12] |
| trinque | cent/single-digit | [17:12] |
| trinque | oh lol, they actually gave decimals for the number of nodes too | [17:12] |
| ascii_field | ;;later tell mircea_popescu the binary symmetries thing trivially follows from the mirrored 32-bit words. work it out on paper. | [17:13] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:13] |
| ascii_field | glad somebody other than me noticed. now if only somebody other than me were willing to write the obvious proggy | [17:14] |
| BingoBoingo | http://i.imgur.com/TFvb1OK.png?1 | [17:14] |
| ascii_field | BingoBoingo: wat | [17:15] |
| BingoBoingo | Apparently more things are genetic. Today amputations, during the French revolution twas decapitations. | [17:16] |
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| ben_vulpes | > obvious proggy | [17:18] |
| ben_vulpes | hyu | [17:18] |
| ascii_field | ben_vulpes: have a cup'o'coffee (or standard dose of whatever your favourite performance-enhancing dope) and you'll see it. | [17:19] |
| ascii_field | hint: multiplication is commutative. | [17:20] |
| ben_vulpes | i have to say that i'm having trouble holding the whole keysmashing party in my head | [17:21] |
| ascii_field | incidentally, the thing mircea_popescu suggested doing in his article, http://trilema.com/2015/the-universal-rsa-keys - won't work | [17:21] |
| ascii_field | or at least, will fail often (when both factors of a modulus appear an even number of times) | [17:22] |
| Apocalyptic | ascii_field, another trivial thing that follows from the mirroring: every N has 641 and 6700417 as prime factors | [17:22] |
| ascii_field | but the 'magical' moduli still break into integers small enough to factor trivially on pc | [17:22] |
| Apocalyptic | why is left as an exercice for the reader | [17:22] |
| ascii_field | Apocalyptic: i assume you've already worked out the whole thing | [17:23] |
| ascii_field | and perhaps mircea_popescu also did, but hasn't seen it fit to confess | [17:23] |
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| Apocalyptic | I guess it depends on what "whole thing" you have in mind | [17:25] |
| ascii_field | Apocalyptic: proggy which breaks all of the magic moduli on ordinary pc in a few sec. | [17:25] |
| ascii_field | into demonstrably prime pieces | [17:25] |
| Apocalyptic | i'm just getting started, do you have built such a thing ? | [17:27] |
| ascii_field | Apocalyptic: no. but i suspect that one of you already did. | [17:28] |
| mircea_popescu | ascii_field i dun follow ? | [17:29] |
| jurov | chan demands ELI5! | [17:32] |
| ascii_field | you fellas don't like puzzles do ya | [17:33] |
| mircea_popescu | lmao @ fakeissueweretooretardedtounderstand.com | [17:34] |
| mircea_popescu | where do these dudes come from srsly. | [17:34] |
| mircea_popescu | jurov in any case, the dumbass "prediction market" thing has a core of rabid fandom, sort-of like whatever subcultural obscura | [17:35] |
| ascii_field | actually, folks who specialize in stuffing ballot boxes (or the higher-tech usian variant of this, mass-programming meat-puppets for correct-voting) just -love- 'futarchy' | [17:37] |
| mircea_popescu | as to the symmetries : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/rsa-mystery-one.png for instance doesn't seem like it's 100% bit shifted | [17:38] |
| mircea_popescu | there are some spots where it breaks down | [17:38] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: where ? | [17:38] |
| mircea_popescu | 2nd line 4th bit | [17:38] |
| mircea_popescu | 59/56 | [17:39] |
| ascii_field | 84 0c 3e 59 84 0c 3e 59 | [17:39] |
| mircea_popescu | 0th error! | [17:40] |
| mircea_popescu | 5th bit in your universe | [17:40] |
| ascii_field | 5th bit from bottom of modulus ? | [17:40] |
| mircea_popescu | hm wtf. | [17:41] |
| mircea_popescu | well, that 2nd line is all messed up. so first 3 identical, plus 1 on the prev line at end. ok. | [17:43] |
| ascii_field | ignore the colours | [17:43] |
| ascii_field | the colourizer is dumb as brick | [17:43] |
| mircea_popescu | then bits 4-7 different. then bits 8-11 identical | [17:43] |
| mircea_popescu | but then... mess. | [17:43] |
| mircea_popescu | i dunno, i just cursorily looked at it and didn't expect on the strength of what i saw to actually have DIVISORS that are 32bitshift-and-add | [17:43] |
| ascii_field | appears to follow same pattern as all of them - take each 64 bits, copy bottom 32 over top 32 | [17:44] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73889 @ 0.00029347 = 21.6842 BTC [-] {2} | [17:44] |
| ascii_field | ad nauseum | [17:44] |
| mircea_popescu | the divisors ? yes. problem is, if you look at the moduli they don't actually follow that pattern exactly throughout | [17:44] |
| mircea_popescu | moreover, if they did, the result would have to be a divisor that's more like 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 etc. | [17:45] |
| mircea_popescu | not a 64 bit number | [17:45] |
| mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo "unclaimed funds would be reduced by 25% per month until there was no balance." << somebody skipped stochastics 101 i take it. | [17:46] |
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| mircea_popescu | ascii_field but be this as it may, the "won't work" part is much more interesting. wjhy wouldn't the pre-salted keys not work ? | [17:47] |
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| ascii_field | won't work ? | [17:47] |
| mircea_popescu | [17:47] | |
| ascii_field | because gcd(prod, x) ends up equal to x | [17:48] |
| mircea_popescu | right... | [17:48] |
| mircea_popescu | if it does, you know all those factors are in keys. if it ends up equal to y, y < x... you've excluded some. | [17:49] |
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| mircea_popescu | which will now be popped in future keys. | [17:49] |
| mircea_popescu | it's just intended as a catchall. | [17:49] |
| mircea_popescu | an' in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/eb2292f8fb4f8799ea98c7055d9fa249/tumblr_mz0eopKK8p1smxk21o1_400.gif | [17:52] |
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| mircea_popescu | !up ascii_field | [17:56] |
| -assbot- | You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. | [17:56] |
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| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/07TZSNW | [17:56] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: replace the test in your copy of 'litmus' with this. | [17:57] |
| ascii_field | or not | [17:57] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/1TNXJDZ << whole thing | [17:57] |
| ascii_field | probably should have done this from the start | [17:58] |
| mircea_popescu | i suppose this would be equivalent, if in fact the moduli were uniformly mangled by the shifting. | [17:59] |
| mircea_popescu | it seems to me still this isn't thecase. | [17:59] |
| BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: seems so | [17:59] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: ./litmus_new.py litmus_mod_only litmus_mods_mirrored | [18:00] |
| ascii_field | 98/98 come out. | [18:00] |
| mircea_popescu | o.O | [18:00] |
| ascii_field | which is to say, it so happens that all the mods which had bottom 64 bits be a mirror pair (as per my original mods-only litmus) had full shebang. | [18:00] |
| ascii_field | try it yourself. (addressed to everyone) | [18:01] |
| mircea_popescu | heh. that's some very reliable accident. | [18:02] |
| ascii_field | now, exercise for reader | [18:02] |
| ascii_field | we now know merely that each key has one or more mirrored modulus | [18:02] |
| ascii_field | but nothing in particular about ones which were -not-. | [18:02] |
| ascii_field | at any rate, we now have a rigorous definition of the type of integer we are concerned with: | [18:04] |
| ascii_field | mirrored(n) | [18:04] |
| ascii_field | though, for rigour's sake, i will add that n is a multiple-of-64 bits-long, and is nonzero | [18:05] |
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| mircea_popescu | ascii_field and you don't see a case where such a modulo would not be detected owing to the happenstance that it shares no factors with other keys ? | [18:14] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38000 @ 0.000296 = 11.248 BTC [+] {3} | [18:16] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: remember how i did litmus | [18:17] |
| ascii_field | it has nothing to do with phuctor proper | [18:17] |
| ascii_field | ran on the entire key db | [18:17] |
| ascii_field | now there could easily be -other- classes of strange | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu | that's a point. | [18:17] |
| ascii_field | but as for mirrored moduli, we have'em all | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu | well, sure, there could be all sorts of classes, but there's no call to poke at crabs with a window wiper. | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu | i guess that puts it to rest | [18:18] |
| ascii_field | now write down n as a diophantine equation | [18:18] |
| mircea_popescu | anyway : mirrored moduli will necessarily have a factor of the form 0x00000001000000000000000100000000000000010000000000000001000000000000000100000000000000010000000000000001000000000000000100000000 | [18:19] |
| mircea_popescu | however long the key is. | [18:19] |
| ascii_field | aha | [18:19] |
| mircea_popescu | which would seem like "a long prime" | [18:19] |
| ascii_field | there we go | [18:19] |
| ascii_field | and once you've divided by the 'long' turd, what you're left with is small change | [18:20] |
| ascii_field | factor just as well on '486'. | [18:20] |
| mircea_popescu | yup | [18:21] |
| ascii_field | bbbbuttt c0sm1c r4yz !!11! | [18:21] |
| mircea_popescu | "Of course, we can't understand prediction markets until we understand markets. A market in any two fungible goods, A and B, is any device for discovering the A/B ratio P which equalizes D, the number of people who want to trade P units of A for one unit of B, with S, the number of people who want to trade one unit of B for P units of A." | [18:23] |
| mircea_popescu | and there he goes, right off into retarded. | [18:23] |
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| mircea_popescu | first off, a market is not a "device". a market is a PLACE. second off, markets exist in unfungible goods - fungibility is not involved. third off, markets exist ONLY with currency, which IS NOT a good. on it goes. | [18:27] |
| mircea_popescu | the sun's the marketplace for some nucleons trading out energy. | [18:28] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51650 @ 0.00028859 = 14.9057 BTC [-] {3} | [18:30] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.0002999 = 9.7468 BTC [+] | [18:38] |
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| danielpbarron | !up hegemoOn | [18:46] |
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| hegemoOn | wanted to share this article http://parasec.net/transmission/order-book-visualisation/ | [18:46] |
| hegemoOn | a "nanex" like study about 4 months trade on bitstamp | [18:47] |
| hegemoOn | :) | [18:47] |
| hegemoOn | and bitcoin electronic trading | [18:47] |
| hegemoOn | thanks danielpbarron for the +v | [18:47] |
| mircea_popescu | you wrote it ? | [18:48] |
| hegemoOn | no | [18:49] |
| hegemoOn | https://twitter.com/nanexllc/status/603303370129047552 | [18:49] |
| hegemoOn | this is the source | [18:49] |
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| mircea_popescu | aha ok | [18:53] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89650 @ 0.00028627 = 25.6641 BTC [-] {2} | [18:54] |
| Apocalyptic | [18:56] | |
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| cazalla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-05-2015#1145602 <<< meh i was rolling down drunk, but being a dad is great fun, just stressful at times | [18:56] |
| assbot | Logged on 26-05-2015 14:01:21; asciilifeform: btw that cazalla thread would make for great reading alongside of the 'why not have children' thread from during c3 | [18:56] |
| hegemoOn | good night :) | [18:57] |
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| mircea_popescu | Apocalyptic because if you take 84357349875 and make it 883377448877 then it necessarily will be divisible by 837487 | [19:01] |
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| mircea_popescu | !up duduqa | [19:02] |
| -assbot- | You voiced duduqa for 30 minutes. | [19:02] |
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| mircea_popescu | Apocalyptic 80307040807* | [19:04] |
| mircea_popescu | and with that i must bid you a very good night. | [19:06] |
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