Forum logs for 25 Jan 2016

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/972 < there we go [00:02]
assbot Add -checklevel and improve -checkblocks by sipa · Pull Request #972 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jwisuq ) [00:02]
mircea_popescu later on those 6 levels became just 4. [00:02]
mircea_popescu then later went from $$$___MAGIC_nUmBeR...you are not expected to understand how this works...ReBmUn_CIGAM___$$$ = 2500 to $$$___MAGIC_nUmBeR...you are not expected to understand how this works...ReBmUn_CIGAM___$$$ = 288 [00:04]
mircea_popescu prolly to celebrate someone's girlfriend's success in dieting. [00:04]
mircea_popescu ("Note that even level 6 does not do signature/script checking." is prolly the best part in all of that junk.) [00:05]
polarbeard lol [00:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68550 @ 0.00056208 = 38.5306 BTC [+] {4} [00:05]
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mircea_popescu "what happens if a miner includes a bogus tx you say ? oh, the other miners would never extend that chain!" "wait, didn't those same other miners extend a chain that failed the rulechange they supposedly voted for ?" "sfyl". [00:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49650 @ 0.0005563 = 27.6203 BTC [-] {3} [00:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15367 @ 0.0005629 = 8.6501 BTC [+] {2} [00:24]
* mod6 reads logs [00:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 198458 @ 0.00056029 = 111.194 BTC [-] {2} [00:28]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform well, if there's no consensus, there's no consensus and there it goes. <+mircea_popescu> poor mod6 gets no week off! << ok so no consensus on the space/tabs issue at this time. [00:30]
mod6 hmm. so then, I believe if i remove the tabs from my S-patch and leave the spaces ~in~, then it'll look more like Mr. P.'s patch he put together. [00:32]
mod6 i can work on that tonight. [00:32]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [00:42]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 397.45, vol: 5829.09891885 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 396.941, vol: 9116.22499 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 396.66, vol: 27096.81758218 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 387.0, vol: 11.6693 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 402.147406, vol: 62621.59270000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 397.03, vol: 577.58243073 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 394.674500011, vol: 54.61105441 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [00:42]
BingoBoingo ;;more [00:42]
gribble 399.991092065 [00:42]
ben_vulpes ty mod6! [00:44]
mod6 no problem at all. [00:46]
mod6 we'll get there, just gotta keep driving towards our goals. [00:47]
mod6 one line at a time. [00:47]
mod6 here's what it looks like with only spaces in there (much more similar to Mr. P.'s (second)): http://dpaste.com/03MMVP8.txt [00:55]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1lIXSv7 ) [00:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.0005631 = 13.2047 BTC [+] [01:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00056247 = 15.1304 BTC [-] [01:23]
thestringpuller !t s.mpoe [01:27]
assbot These beans is shit. [01:27]
thestringpuller !t m s.mpoe [01:27]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0005527 / 0.00055992 / 0.00056692 (5975415 shares, 3,345.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00050896 / 0.00055577 / 0.00060199 (23555869 shares, 13,091.73 BTC), 30D: 0.00047125 / 0.00052438 / 0.00060199 (60407942 shares, 31,677.18 BTC) [01:27]
BingoBoingo !t s.bbet [01:32]
assbot Your actions are useless. [01:32]
BingoBoingo !t m s.bbet [01:32]
assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000121 / 0.000121 / 0.000121 (270 shares, 0.03 BTC), 7D: 0.000121 / 0.00012637 / 0.00013 (670 shares, 0.08 BTC), 30D: 0.0001 / 0.00011988 / 0.00013 (3600 shares, 0.43 BTC) [01:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69058 @ 0.00055631 = 38.4177 BTC [-] {4} [01:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00056309 = 7.1231 BTC [+] {2} [01:46]
deedbot- [Qntra] Corn Belt Pain Continues As Supply Trickles Into Markets - http://qntra.net/2016/01/corn-belt-pain-continues-as-supply-trickles-into-markets/ [01:48]
* BingoBoingo once he completes the re-reading list would like to publish a book, or at least a lecture series title "The Will To Hodl" [01:49]
* BingoBoingo also starting to get that uncomfortable feeling of "Alf was right" https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=145369611511762&w=2 [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67149 @ 0.00056502 = 37.9405 BTC [+] {3} [01:56]
BingoBoingo "more or less right. Release builds for VAX usually don't end much [01:56]
BingoBoingo early before the release. There were already times, where I had to [01:56]
BingoBoingo stop them, in order to ship. Those two to three months time, it's a lot [01:56]
BingoBoingo of babysitting. When I'm lucky, DPB just dies, and I get mail and [01:56]
BingoBoingo restart, if I'm unlucky, it just gets stuck, and I may not recognize it [01:56]
BingoBoingo for a (few) day(s)." [01:56]
BingoBoingo ^ i.e. the testing on exotic hardware appears to be fading [01:56]
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mod6 alright, the DER patch has been sent to the ML: [02:01]
mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000193.html [02:01]
assbot [BTC-dev] Enforcement of 'S' value in DER signatures ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZMq0uH ) [02:01]
mod6 And V mirror has been updated, as well as the graph (http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/vpatch-nodes.html) [02:02]
BingoBoingo mod6: When do you think it would make sense to dam the Mississippi river to generate hydroelectric power for mining? [02:02]
mod6 yesterday [02:02]
BingoBoingo Nah, need more Hodl first [02:02]
BingoBoingo Also friendlier locals to work with [02:03]
mod6 there are dams already, there is one I was just looking at in minneapolis while standing outside in -20 weather. looked reasonable to me! haha. [02:03]
BingoBoingo Those dams are weak though. I'm talking south of the Ohio river confluence [02:03]
mod6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hennepin_Island_Hydroelectric_Plant [02:04]
assbot Hennepin Island Hydroelectric Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZMqhxX ) [02:04]
mod6 ah, yah, im sure bigger and better ones would be a good thing, at some point. [02:04]
mod6 around here, and especially in southern MN & all over Iowa they have HUGE wind turbines in place. [02:05]
BingoBoingo I'm talking make 3 gorges look like Hennepin island [02:05]
mod6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Iowa [02:06]
assbot Wind power in Iowa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZMquRG ) [02:06]
mod6 apparently 5688 MW in '14 [02:06]
* mod6 looks @ 3 gorges [02:06]
BingoBoingo If Bitcoin needs half of ALL the watts it's going to have to happen [02:07]
mod6 oh yeah, looking at that one, is huge. [02:07]
mod6 anyway, yeah, it's been on my mind. [02:09]
BingoBoingo I figure 1993 flood level presents a decent reservoir target [02:10]
mod6 yeah, there will be a time when discussions will start around a project like this. [02:11]
BingoBoingo Prolly around 2035 [02:12]
mats what an ecological disaster [02:12]
BingoBoingo Not a disaster, would actually solve the mine subsidence problem in a lot of areas [02:12]
mats i'm not so sure the wildlife will agree [02:15]
BingoBoingo They'll move as they tend to do. [02:17]
* BingoBoingo imagines ghetto wildlife relocating to Portland where they tend to be welcomed [02:24]
ben_vulpes i am now apparently engaged in an exercise to determine what the oldest version of os x is that can be beaten into supporting software development [02:25]
BingoBoingo Why X? Why not VI, VII, VIII, or IX? [02:29]
BingoBoingo The others would probably get your shop mad hipster cred [02:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00056664 = 19.9457 BTC [+] {2} [02:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82890 @ 0.00056682 = 46.9837 BTC [+] {2} [02:50]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo and his obsession with dead operating systems [02:51]
ben_vulpes in another universe i'd be entirely happy with seven. [02:52]
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pete_dushenski fwiw, alleged isis pgp-gram encrypted : https://archive.is/Ro4XZ and decrypted : https://archive.is/pY9BB [03:15]
assbot CZhwuXZWAAIQskQ.jpg:large (1023x1260 pixels) ... ( http://bit.ly/1UlpL8u ) [03:15]
assbot CZhxu5dWEAcfIzo.jpg:large (1023x1114 pixels) ... ( http://bit.ly/1UlpIJT ) [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89695 @ 0.00056357 = 50.5494 BTC [-] {2} [03:15]
pete_dushenski gnupg v2... tsk tsk. [03:15]
pete_dushenski someone has done their 6 months of log readings [03:16]
pete_dushenski *hasn't ! [03:16]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1384621 << looks like this part of the message is... inside the message. so not pgptron's doing. still, why ? allahusnackbar only knows, but given that they're all probably mega-crypto noobs, it's not inconceivable to imagine this note's use case, even it seems beyond retarded to (i expect) everyone here. [03:19]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 00:09:41; asciilifeform: danielpbarron: and whose pgptron prints 'Decryption....' [03:19]
pete_dushenski and i just searched for the key id listed there, neither 1650H76 nor 1658OH76 yielded any hits. but then again, why should it ? (aside from the comedic value) [03:23]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1384624 << for same reason our terrorism rantings and communiques are in english ? [03:24]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 00:10:21; asciilifeform: danielpbarron: and why would message text be in english [03:24]
danielpbarron my gpg says they aren't even valid key ids [03:25]
pete_dushenski ah well then. maybe it was just another lulzy idea that was in fact a thinly veiled hatchet job. alas. [03:26]
danielpbarron i would think it's easier to make a real key and decrypt an actual message than to fake the whole thing in video editing but then again I have a dedicated gpg machine and not a video editing one. USG probably has the opposite [03:28]
pete_dushenski "first they came for isis for using pgp, but i did nothing. then they... oh wait. they couldn't so anything against isis anyways so what sort of nyooz is this!" [03:28]
pete_dushenski danielpbarron: probably ? most definitely. like 100%. [03:28]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1384677 << i lollered [03:29]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 00:28:44; mircea_popescu: now a dog you can't trust! [03:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36170 @ 0.00055724 = 20.1554 BTC [-] [03:43]
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BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: I'll have you know that in the cleaning I've done since last message I dusted a perfectly good machine capable of running OS 7, if only I'd plug in in and the caps haven't gone pop since October when I last plugged it in... [03:59]
ben_vulpes but will it compile boost? [04:08]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385035 << this makes no sense. if your gf is a secretary and she moves from paper company (A) to another paper company (B) of the same size and just as far from home and for the same pay (but without that bitch midge from accounts payable), the paper industry will make no more "evil ghg", nor kill more fuzzy penguins or whatever it is you imagine anthropomorphised [04:11]
pete_dushenski disneyesque animalia as. changing gruntwork jobs (which is what power generation is), ceretis paribus, doesn't matter in the slightest to the global ecological footprint. if anything, as bitcoin mining grows into even the double-digits of global power use, it will create a scarcity of electricity for non-mining uses, driving up prices in those other domains, thus decreasing less essential usage, decreasing the n [04:11]
pete_dushenski eed for so much supply, and in fact accelerating bitcoin's achievement of 51% of global supply at a ~lower~ total supply than at present. [04:11]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 05:10:05; mats: what an ecological disaster [04:11]
BingoBoingo Who needs boost when you have the full expressive power of motorola 68k assembly? [04:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170100 @ 0.00055483 = 94.3766 BTC [-] {3} [04:11]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: will, say, 10.4 compile boost ? [04:11]
pete_dushenski on ppc ! [04:11]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: heh okay you got a laugh out of me with that [04:12]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: i determined tonight that 10.6 is entirely unuseable [04:13]
pete_dushenski http://boost.2283326.n4.nabble.com/Cross-compile-Boost-library-Thread-System-for-PowerPC-td4643105.html << anyways, answer to my own question. [04:13]
assbot Boost - Build - Cross compile Boost library (Thread, System) for PowerPC ... ( http://bit.ly/1OIT5nW ) [04:13]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: With same language you can program the two best portable computers ever. The TI-89 and the TI-92 [04:13]
ben_vulpes os 10 is an operating system for today, not forever [04:13]
ben_vulpes !s 100 year editor [04:14]
assbot 0 results for '100 year editor' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=100+year+editor [04:14]
ben_vulpes !s quality without a name [04:14]
assbot 0 results for 'quality without a name' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=quality+without+a+name [04:14]
ben_vulpes that's a classic, i'm a bit surprised. [04:14]
pete_dushenski well, os 11 will be i/os 11 if my convergening line estimator is accurate. so i'll stick with 10 for now :P [04:15]
ben_vulpes is that a head and shoulders or death cross or some other technical trading thing? [04:15]
pete_dushenski it's the dead steve bounce [04:15]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: There won't be an 11 or an XI. The branding isn't as good as X [04:17]
ben_vulpes haw haw haw [04:17]
ben_vulpes x11 is best x [04:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44241 @ 0.00055724 = 24.6529 BTC [+] [04:41]
punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1384760 srsly [04:53]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 01:30:26; *: asciilifeform observes that this thread has already taken up more space than the patch. [04:53]
BingoBoingo Soon on fox news: "The lead developer of Bitcoin arrested for drug charges" >> https://archive.is/y7Wjv#selection-4251.0-4251.75 [05:03]
assbot Michael Toomin explains his meltdown, and the structure of Bitcoin Classic (45 min in!) : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1niRThM ) [05:03]
BingoBoingo lulz from #bitcoin-otc-ratings: Rating removed | phantomcircuit > -10 > jason | criminal, stole from coinbase [05:07]
punkman loltoomim "What languages do you work in, what's your background in CS?" "I use all languages" "You can't use all languages!" "Well I dunno, I haven't used Haskell or OCaml, but everything else I can think of..." [05:17]
fluffypony truly one of the great minds of this generation [05:20]
fluffypony clearly his language preference is BrainFuck [05:21]
punkman he's improving Coffeescript these days [05:21]
deedbot- [Qntra] Mass Ransomware Strike Hits Millions Of Indian Computers - http://qntra.net/2016/01/mass-ransomware-strike-hits-millions-of-indian-computers/ [05:46]
danielpbarron ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://danielpbarron.com/isis_pgp_qntra.asc.txt [06:04]
gribble The operation succeeded. [06:04]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pfhh2H ) [06:04]
BingoBoingo ty danielpbarron [06:05]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: this girl in MO was telling me she works at a place that forces windows use. Someone is hit with ransomware weekly. [06:08]
BingoBoingo Ah, yeah [06:09]
BingoBoingo At least [06:09]
danielpbarron someone recently asked me if i wanted to sell bitcoin to someone hit by one of those things [06:09]
thestringpuller so bitcoin has directly monetized malware [06:10]
danielpbarron i said no [06:10]
BingoBoingo best to avoid that poison pill [06:10]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: You piece is going up as soon as I harmonize some of the vocabulary. [06:10]
danielpbarron yeah please do; i can't believe it's 4 my brain is fried [06:11]
thestringpuller pre-bitcoin you'd invest in setting up botnet and then monetize the botnet. seems now just put that money into ransomware instead of the botnet. [06:11]
danielpbarron i turned down the offer to sell coin, not because of where it would go so much as because I don't know a reliable way to replentish my stock (I haven't used coinbase in a long while) [06:11]
thestringpuller danielpbarron: have you tried anyone in web of trust? [06:12]
danielpbarron i have but not recently on that one either [06:12]
thestringpuller do you use coinbr? [06:12]
danielpbarron yeah [06:12]
thestringpuller if you can get jurov euros he can get you X.EUR if you are coinbr customer. i'd inquiry with him. [06:13]
danielpbarron eeenteresting i might know a euro connect although i doubt it [06:14]
BingoBoingo Maybe just get Jurov a duffel bag full of Euros? Everyone needs a vacation sometime. [06:16]
deedbot- [Qntra] ISIS/Snowden PGP Comedy - http://qntra.net/2016/01/isissnowden-pgp-comedy/ [06:16]
BingoBoingo ^ danielpbarron [06:17]
BingoBoingo The piece's saving grace is that it was short and thorough. [06:17]
danielpbarron that's my style heh [06:18]
punkman ;;nethash [06:18]
gribble 990495801.597 [06:18]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: You know if you could do 10 of these 120 word things a month that would be 1200 s.qntr which are redeemable for... [06:19]
BingoBoingo Bitcoin at a market determined rate [06:20]
thestringpuller !t m s.qntr [06:20]
assbot [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.0003073 / 0.00031877 / 0.00035095 (10852 shares, 3.46 BTC) [06:20]
thestringpuller bids are at 23k satoshi right now [06:20]
thestringpuller ;;calc 0.00023000 * 1200 [06:21]
gribble 0.276 [06:21]
thestringpuller mpex investors seem to love paying qntra contributors, so it's doing something right. [06:22]
BingoBoingo Maybe next year or five years from now we get a revenue in excess of hosting that allows for dividends? Who knows? The future is full of mysteries! [06:25]
thestringpuller well ad's prove to have high CTR, just need a little conversions sprinkled on that and who knows [06:26]
thestringpuller ^- the one that was on qntra sometime last year [06:26]
thestringpuller iirc had higher click-thru than most of web [06:27]
BingoBoingo I dunno how much to bank on that. The web is ever changing [06:31]
thestringpuller digital marekting will likely implode before the next decade. look at the overvaluation of coindesk and coin telegraph where the revenue is entirely that. [06:37]
thestringpuller qntra's future will reveal itself in due time. it's quickly growing, and still young. [06:39]
BingoBoingo Well now Coindesk lives as this undead thing entirely subsumed to Barry Silber and operated by his mouthpiece Ryan 'TwoBitIdiot' Selkis [06:50]
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BingoBoingo Anyways for people who care about the NFL chain (maybe BitBet) A Denver Broncos versus Carolina Panthers superbowl was mined. [06:55]
thestringpuller i haven't seen a broncos superbowl since i was elementary school methinks [06:58]
BingoBoingo Same here. [07:00]
BingoBoingo Looks like Brady fell apart in this likely last Brady/Peyton Manning matchup. Which is surprising because Peyton himself is barely alive for charitable definitions of alive. [07:02]
thestringpuller lol i remember when the falcons played the broncos in the superbowl, and we actually thought we stood a chance. [07:02]
thestringpuller lol manning was drafted when I was in middle school [07:02]
thestringpuller my how time flies. [07:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25113 @ 0.00055591 = 13.9606 BTC [-] [07:05]
thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/5kUV5d3.jpg << dunno if joke or real. "Lets turn bitcoin development over to coinbase!" look at what democracy gets you people. srsly, wtf. [07:07]
thestringpuller already selling out to corporations and they didn't even need lobbyist this time! [07:08]
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BingoBoingo lol, Or Coinbase just signing all those votes [07:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 101500 @ 0.0005558 = 56.4137 BTC [-] {2} [07:11]
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BingoBoingo !up p15 [07:16]
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BingoBoingo In other decentralization news from the mines https://torrentfreak.com/oldest-torrent-is-still-being-shared-after-4419-days-160124/ [07:16]
assbot World's Oldest Torrent Is Still Being Shared After 4,419 Days - TorrentFreak ... ( http://bit.ly/1QnCQgE ) [07:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78230 @ 0.00055668 = 43.5491 BTC [+] [07:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 673 @ 0.00267606 = 1.801 BTC [-] {2} [08:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49175 @ 0.00055376 = 27.2311 BTC [-] {2} [08:36]
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jurov danielpbarron(and other folks in my WoT): we're using transferwise, works quick and swell so far. For N euro that arrives to my account you get N/1.02 x.eur, discount possible if you can commit to schedule. [08:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115505 @ 0.00055668 = 64.2993 BTC [+] [08:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00055714 = 23.7899 BTC [+] {3} [09:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64574 @ 0.00055331 = 35.7294 BTC [-] {2} [09:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27550 @ 0.00055283 = 15.2305 BTC [-] [09:33]
p15 Peter_Geschel phf pizzaman1337 pi| polarbeard PsychoticBoy punkman [09:38]
mircea_popescu !up pi| [09:38]
-assbot- You voiced pi| for 30 minutes. [09:38]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385000 << not a bad idea. [09:40]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 04:47:39; *: BingoBoingo once he completes the re-reading list would like to publish a book, or at least a lecture series title "The Will To Hodl" [09:40]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385027 << cool, 5GW over their lifetime will be just enough to cover the energy cost of hauling in replacements. [09:42]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 05:04:25; mod6: apparently 5688 MW in '14 [09:42]
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punkman http://www.activistpost.com/2016/01/flint-residents-told-that-their-children-could-be-taken-away-if-they-dont-pay-for-citys-poison-water.html [10:24]
assbot Flint Residents Told That Their Children Could Be Taken Away If They Don’t Pay For City's Poison Water ... ( http://bit.ly/1nJqdTN ) [10:24]
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mircea_popescu hopefuly taken away to a new prison built in a neighbouring town ? [10:27]
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deedbot- [Trilema] Here's where you forget about "wind power" as an alternative source of power. - http://trilema.com/2016/heres-where-you-forget-about-wind-power-as-an-alternative-source-of-power/ [10:40]
punkman https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/691592396526718976 [10:43]
asciilifeform http://www.anagram.com/jcrap << l0ltr0nic [10:52]
assbot The Journal of Craptology Home Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1nJzHOP ) [10:52]
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punkman https://medium.com/@DonRumsfeld/at-83-i-decided-to-develop-an-app-dadd4e53d342 ahaha [10:55]
assbot At 83 I decided to develop an app — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1nJApf3 ) [10:55]
asciilifeform punkman: lulzy. i played what appears to be this game as a boy. [10:56]
asciilifeform (and i find it very strange that an adult would play a solitaire, it seems like a serious symptom of 'has no theorems to prove') [10:57]
punkman popular with office drones [10:59]
asciilifeform also from the link it looks as if he 'produced' it rather than actually wrote anything [11:00]
asciilifeform mega-unsurprise. [11:00]
punkman I also don't get why i's on medium [11:00]
asciilifeform as far as i can tell, it is exactly 'tumblr' but hasn't yet been cemented in reputation for hosting rabid pheminists etc [11:01]
asciilifeform and therefore fashionable. [11:01]
punkman why is the journal of craptology full of song videos? [11:01]
asciilifeform ask it. [11:02]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385180 << i find it interesting that this (entirely plausible, i am directly familiar with an almost identical case involving sewers) incident is only reported in a rag which also covers 'chemtrails' [11:03]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 13:22:22; punkman: http://www.activistpost.com/2016/01/flint-residents-told-that-their-children-could-be-taken-away-if-they-dont-pay-for-citys-poison-water.html [11:03]
punkman the gifts of ASN1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1300237 [11:12]
assbot Bug 1300237 – CVE-2016-2053 kernel: Kernel panic and system lockup by triggering BUG_ON() in public_key_verify_signature() ... ( http://bit.ly/1nJFPGR ) [11:12]
fluffypony https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZjTF6SUYAAHGs2.png [11:12]
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asciilifeform punkman: ahahaha use moar usg standardz! [11:13]
mircea_popescu mega-unsurprise. << this "everyone can do it - you could be next - make 10 gazillion renting out the space inside your nose" narrative must be driven!!1 [11:19]
mircea_popescu I also don't get why i's on medium << because that's what altman's qntra is called. [11:20]
asciilifeform in what sense is it a qntra ? [11:20]
asciilifeform is nyt a qntra? volkischer beobachter ? [11:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform just like the nigger-death of a naive white libtard is only covered by rags that also cover all sorts of other race insanities. [11:21]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform in the sense everyone's mp. aspirational sense. [11:21]
mircea_popescu http://www.math.pacificu.edu/~emmons/JofUR/ << heh. [11:23]
jurov http://www.explo.yt/alf_us.jpg << asciilifeform [11:32]
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mircea_popescu lol [11:32]
asciilifeform l0lz [11:33]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385046 << what's the difference between that universe and this ? (entirely innocent quesiton, i never used os-apple) [11:34]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 05:49:50; ben_vulpes: in another universe i'd be entirely happy with seven. [11:34]
asciilifeform 7 was a product of the actual apple co. (vs rebranded 'next') [11:34]
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asciilifeform i.e. not a unix [11:34]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385056 << i beg your pardon, "H" ? [11:35]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 06:20:57; pete_dushenski: and i just searched for the key id listed there, neither 1650H76 nor 1658OH76 yielded any hits. but then again, why should it ? (aside from the comedic value) [11:35]
asciilifeform H. [11:35]
mircea_popescu what h. [11:35]
asciilifeform on the same planet where gpg prints 'Decrypting......' [11:35]
mircea_popescu is this some new utf ? [11:36]
asciilifeform nope. [11:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform watch that some towelhead with a quart of brie between his legs stole some code and did the usual "i am 15 yo coder and i can replace strings" thing to it. [11:36]
asciilifeform and H ? [11:36]
mircea_popescu in principle you can fuck up base64. [11:37]
mircea_popescu satoshi did... [11:37]
mircea_popescu make it base-snackbar, why not. [11:37]
asciilifeform https://archive.is/cL3TM << moar via qntra piece [11:37]
assbot Edward Snowden on Twitter: "Journos: The #ISIS video's "encrypted email" is confirmed fake. If any official responds as if it's real, push back. https://t.co/fKHAAk1SAa" ... ( http://bit.ly/1OJDfJO ) [11:37]
mircea_popescu "is confirmed". who confirmed ? [11:37]
mircea_popescu this is like "i am officially the king of caspiar" [11:38]
punkman someone on twitter extracted some valid partial gpg packet that said DBC2E82BB763CF80 [11:39]
asciilifeform all this aside, the thing is entirely indistinguishable from the most idiotic imaginable fake. [11:39]
mircea_popescu this much is true. [11:39]
asciilifeform wake me up when they have captured nato soldiers write the pubkey out in the sand with the blood of own severed hands. [11:40]
asciilifeform on camera. [11:40]
mircea_popescu yeah, that's totally what i did o.O [11:40]
asciilifeform and then same, layed out using heads. [11:40]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu had the tits thing. similar ! [11:41]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385071 << this is nonsense wut. [11:41]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 07:08:57; pete_dushenski: disneyesque animalia as. changing gruntwork jobs (which is what power generation is), ceretis paribus, doesn't matter in the slightest to the global ecological footprint. if anything, as bitcoin mining grows into even the double-digits of global power use, it will create a scarcity of electricity for non-mining uses, driving up prices in those other domains, thus decreasing less essen [11:41]
mircea_popescu first off birds don't just move. they're more adverse to living the swamp they for no good reason call home than alf is. and for the other, demand doesn't create scarcity, that whole branch's not even wrong. [11:42]
mircea_popescu assbot: Michael Toomin explains his meltdown, and the structure of Bitcoin Classic (45 min in!) << dude, i don't care if he gives away clinton's hairy snatch and the secret of immortality 45 minutes in. who the fuck has the time for this sorta thing. [11:44]
mircea_popescu anyway. let us remind at this juncture that various blathering imbeciles, such as that dude from coinbase, or that dude from the nsa, or that other dude from the nsa, or that other derp "supported" this raging lunacy. [11:45]
mircea_popescu ask them next you see them at one of their inept "conferences", sprouting with unwarranted cockyness whatev er bullshit, what happened of their support for this ? [11:46]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo ". The petrified paper pushers, afraid that actual strong cryptography might catch on among the cattle caste, has sent their favorite stooge to discredit the event." << have sent [11:51]
mircea_popescu also spurious paragraph break after 1st note [11:51]
mircea_popescu aaand in other news, http://56.media.tumblr.com/93f0434c32aede5c04a5fa5560aca73e/tumblr_nha9j7eqJU1s233qio1_1280.jpg [11:56]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1nJUJgf ) [11:56]
punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZghdXeUUAAISoQ.jpg:large [12:00]
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mircea_popescu http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/telecom/internet/fear-and-loathing-in-the-bitcoin-world << bitcoin's formal governing body is amused at the wanna-be's posturing. [12:04]
assbot Bitcoin Needs (Gasp!) Formal Governance - IEEE Spectrum ... ( http://bit.ly/1nJXez4 ) [12:04]
mircea_popescu what is ieee again ? [12:04]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: american standards org. [12:07]
mod6 mircea_popescu: hey thanks for working up the math on the wind power. yeah, looks like that was pretty moronic. [12:07]
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mod6 especially if you can get 4x as much from hydroelectric [12:08]
mod6 i think one thing thats interesting about alternatives to dams or nuclear is that its less of a central target for sabotage or attack. [12:09]
mod6 i dunno. [12:11]
mod6 hmmm. [12:14]
mod6 more study required. [12:15]
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thestringpuller ;;later tell mod6 http://trilema.com/2014/advanced-wot-course-how-the-wot-is-attacked-and-how-it-defends-itself/ [12:22]
gribble The operation succeeded. [12:22]
mod6 oh boy [12:26]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: re: toomim meltdown << it was hilarious to listen to, cuz he is just like "I'ma stoned. Hue hue hue. I developed consider.it and we gonna use it to fix bitcoin governance problems, cuz like democracy is the shit. And it like works." [12:33]
thestringpuller This is why you shouldn't give penniless hippies any nice things ever, cause they will break those nice things. [12:34]
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gribble 1001325385.12 [12:56]
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asciilifeform 'This one, however, is different from the rest. The person throwing dirt over the coffin last week was not an outsider, as has most often been the case. It was not some mainstream economist who just “doesn’t get it.” It was not a misinformed journalist fishing for clicks. It was Mike Hearn, a former Google developer, the guy who wrote the first java implementation of Bitcoin. He’s a regular presence at conferences and [13:12]
asciilifeform a tireless educator of Bitcoin novices. And his most passionate vituperations were aimed at the people he is now leaving behind. Bitcoin failed, he wrote, “because the community has failed.”' [13:12]
asciilifeform this is just precious. [13:12]
mircea_popescu mod6> more study required. << yeah, up until a spinning blade worth 50 tons comes off the fucking 200 foot tall mount. [13:17]
mircea_popescu that'll be some pretty epic action movie. [13:17]
mircea_popescu "MegaDreidel on the Highway - 7" [13:18]
asciilifeform iirc the trend is towards large farms of small propellers [13:18]
mircea_popescu hearn is more of an outsider than most outsiders. [13:19]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i gave a rather low-end typical. [13:19]
mircea_popescu ge sold 100's of k's of that one. [13:20]
mircea_popescu anyway, the simple proof that wind is purely for show - so that soviet citizen sees it and is impressed with the usg, just like the red army red square parades of otherwise useless missiles - rather than for energy is that the one place where you should have them (tierra del fuego) doesn't have them. [13:21]
mircea_popescu by the time you've run out of everything ELSE that has better wind and are putting them in MN the world is half-full of wind turbines. [13:21]
asciilifeform there is another interpretation that does not actually contradict this one [13:21]
asciilifeform which is that photovoltaic and wind are preparations for what orlov called 'boutique economy' [13:22]
mircea_popescu meanwhile, the representational needs of the usg are exactly highest in MN as opposed to say alaska. because THAT is the true fronteer atm, separating the bundys from the bahamases. [13:22]
asciilifeform where there is no grid [13:22]
mircea_popescu ie, survivalist enough to pull a bundy, populated enough to really hurt if it does. [13:22]
asciilifeform but titled nobility have something like a 20th century existence [13:22]
mircea_popescu this is rank nonsense. [13:22]
mircea_popescu electricity DOES NOT work without the grid. [13:22]
mircea_popescu this neatly mirrors our previous discussion, where you were holding that "all civilisation depends on mass market". that much is false. [13:23]
asciilifeform entirely without - does not. [13:23]
mircea_popescu however, smaller parts of it - such as electricity, DO in fact depend on grid. [13:23]
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mircea_popescu sorta like "carnot engine does not work without atmosphere". in fact that's exactly it. [13:23]
asciilifeform but the preparations are for a 'grid lite', a la pyongyang [13:23]
asciilifeform where there is grid, for 2-3 hrs/day [13:24]
asciilifeform for folks to watch propaganda channel during. [13:24]
mircea_popescu without a diffuse network to lose into, electricity is a hair raising proposition [13:24]
mircea_popescu seems improbable, but what am i gonna say. [13:24]
mircea_popescu no political system survives that sort of "4 hours a day" bs. [13:24]
asciilifeform why not ? [13:25]
asciilifeform plenty of turd world pissholes 'function' on 0 hrs. [13:25]
mircea_popescu because my slaves obey me 24/7, and that leaves 20hours/day unoccupied for the cattle. [13:25]
asciilifeform and pyongyang is still there [13:25]
mircea_popescu they'll migrate to the system of full occupancy. [13:25]
mircea_popescu pyongyang is still there at incredible sino-usg expenditure. [13:26]
mircea_popescu who's gonna do that for the us, martians ? [13:26]
mircea_popescu nobody cares enough. [13:26]
mircea_popescu you'll notice that "third world pissholes" don't function in the sense of "person mp doesn't like vacations there". [13:27]
asciilifeform at any rate, my observation was re: what usg ~thinks~ it is doing when supporting crackpot energy wunderwaffen [13:29]
asciilifeform rather than the likely result [13:29]
asciilifeform the economics of wunderwaffen are a fascinating mixture of crackpottery, legit invention, and lunatic desperation [13:29]
asciilifeform i've been reading a ru treatise on mines (the kind that undermined castle walls, and the kind that explode, rather than the kind where dwarves toil) [13:30]
asciilifeform and there was an interesting bit about how germany switched to producing the obsolete and suicidally unstable trinitrophenol in 1944 [13:30]
asciilifeform instead of civilized brissant explosives (e.g., trinitrotoluene, hexagen, etc) [13:31]
asciilifeform historians like to expound on the 'sexy' wunderwaffen, rather than this. [13:31]
asciilifeform but wunderwaffen-warfare is ~largely~ this kind of thing. [13:32]
asciilifeform and we are likely to see recognizable riffs on this theme as usg rockets along its path to the bunker of '45. [13:32]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> that'll be some pretty epic action movie. << haha, yah. oh well. [13:33]
asciilifeform desperation, cheap hacks, disaster, rinse & repeat [13:33]
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mod6 MN has 3 nuclear powerplants apparently. [13:58]
mod6 Must have figured it was a cheaper alternative. *shrug* They might have some others that run on coal or oil even? Not sure. [13:59]
mod6 4 Coal, 3 Hydroelectric, 1 Natgas, 3 Nuclear and 2 windfarm [14:03]
mod6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Power_stations_in_Minnesota [14:03]
assbot Category:Power stations in Minnesota - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZNCVMY ) [14:03]
mod6 i can see the natgas one from my office. [14:08]
thestringpuller i love natgas [14:13]
thestringpuller powered by farts [14:13]
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jurov hydropower means large lagoons that tend to acumulate toxic deposits that noone wants to touch. coal and nuclear mean radioactive toxic waste, too. while defunct windmill means piece of perfectly usable structural alloy. [14:45]
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kakobrekla the mud that the hydro dams collect is not toxic but much needed nutrients for plants down the stream [14:48]
jurov .. in the rare cases there is no industry upstream [14:48]
kakobrekla well they would still get that in either case [14:51]
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jurov since the 1950s the hydropower potential of Vah river in Slovakia was almost completely developed and exactly this happened, lakes brim-full of stuff noone knows how to dispose [14:51]
jurov while contributing measly 1% to nation's electrcity supply [14:52]
jurov (and another 3% thanks to Danube) [14:52]
kakobrekla newer dams are actually built in a way that flushes that sediments periodically, they fucked it up on the Nile tho. [14:52]
punkman http://dpaste.com/19JPBPT slightly relevant [14:53]
assbot dpaste: 19JPBPT ... ( http://bit.ly/1OK8btr ) [14:53]
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jurov we are 53% nuclear, and another 2 blocks are in development, it should result in cheapest electricity around [14:56]
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PeterL http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385014 << hydro power is proportional to water drop, you can't really get much power out of a flat river like missississippi [14:56]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 05:00:08; BingoBoingo: mod6: When do you think it would make sense to dam the Mississippi river to generate hydroelectric power for mining? [14:56]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform> but wunderwaffen-warfare is ~largely~ this kind of thing. << quite very much so. and tlp's "frantic activity as a cover for impotence" explains a lot of it. [15:25]
asciilifeform see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-03-2015#1040314 [15:26]
assbot Logged on 04-03-2015 02:43:04; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cutting out completely looks rather like this: http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/jp_tankhunters/fig1_japanese_lunge_mine_antitank.jpg [15:26]
mircea_popescu anyway. picric acid at least is more stable than guncotton, the golden standard of "oops, we fired our cannon there goes the ship" application [15:27]
asciilifeform jp lost more than one ship to own 'shimoza' (trinitrophenol) shell magazines [15:28]
asciilifeform and ru navy had only picrin (on account of tnp having killed their top armaments designer, when he experimented personally) and to this is often attributed the loss in 1907 [15:29]
mircea_popescu jurov this slander re hydro is not unlike saying sex leads to saggy boobs. [15:29]
jurov ? [15:30]
PeterL http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/jp_tankhunters/fig1_japanese_lunge_mine_antitank.jpg << is that a shaped charge spear? [15:30]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1U7fiNx ) [15:30]
mircea_popescu since the 1950s the hydropower potential of Vah river in Slovakia was almost completely developed and exactly this happened, lakes brim-full of stuff noone knows how to dispose << this may be, but on the other hand romania exists as an industrial power rather than an argentinian farm shithole strictly because of massive hydro power developments post ww2 [15:30]
asciilifeform PeterL: yes. also known as the 'lunge mine'. it had no delay fuse at all! [15:30]
mircea_popescu sex leads to saggy boobs : saggy boobs are seen in all females after 20-30 years of fucking, if not earlier. [15:31]
asciilifeform there is an interesting clip somewhere on the net of the vietnamese army, some time in the era of ho chi minh, marching around proudly with these (presumably captured from jp forces in ww2) [15:31]
asciilifeform the message, presumably, being 'we will die gloriously' [15:31]
PeterL I guess the question is, does it work? [15:32]
mircea_popescu not by itself, no. [15:32]
asciilifeform PeterL: dunno, never tried personally [15:32]
asciilifeform if you can get close enough to the tank - any tank, even modern one - it will work great... [15:32]
PeterL and user is not harmed by device? [15:32]
asciilifeform the pegs are standoffs - shaped charge requires them [15:32]
asciilifeform user - dies. [15:32]
asciilifeform i thought this was pretty clear. [15:33]
mircea_popescu not modern ones, at least not the ones with the active armor additions. [15:33]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: sufficiently large shaped charge blows a hole through whatever. [15:33]
mircea_popescu not so. [15:33]
PeterL I dunno, I'm not that familliar with shaped charges [15:33]
jurov yes it helped romania. how does it invalidate the argument? [15:33]
mircea_popescu through whatever passive. [15:33]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: in any case that's what the ~second~ hit is for [15:33]
mircea_popescu jurov the saggy tits thing invalidates the 'argument' such as it is. [15:33]
mircea_popescu the bit of history just mopped off whatever surviving bits left around [15:33]
jurov romania has pointy tits. and? [15:34]
mircea_popescu uh. are you being purposefully thick ? [15:34]
mircea_popescu the hydro plant has exactly nothing to do with pollutants upstream. [15:34]
jurov i think you are [15:34]
jurov on one hand, you say hydro was developed because of industry [15:35]
mircea_popescu so on one hand your argument is logically unsound, and on the other hand the benefit of hydro is certain. [15:35]
jurov on other hand you handwave the pollution away [15:35]
mircea_popescu equating pollution and industry is not unlike equating homosexuality and poor hygiene. [15:35]
jurov yeees? where clean industry exists? [15:36]
jurov in your head. [15:36]
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mircea_popescu how do you define "clean" ? if you meaqn absolutely clean, not only does not such industry exist, but in point of fact no such hygiene exists either. [15:37]
jurov that was not my point. i wanted to say, there are cubic kilometers of liabilities likely to happen [15:38]
mircea_popescu well, look at it the other way : maybe it finally provides the much needed impetuus to force the polluters upstream to clean up their act. [15:39]
jurov maybe. [15:39]
mircea_popescu if there's nothing but textile mill on the veh, textile mill gets to poison the river. [15:39]
mircea_popescu if there's both mill and hydro plant, well... finally ecoregulations can be forced on the mill. and if it doesn't like it... fuck you, move to germany. [15:40]
mircea_popescu we'll live off of selling electricity to you there. [15:40]
asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2016/heres-where-you-forget-about-wind-power-as-an-alternative-source-of-power/#comment-116338 [15:42]
assbot Here's where you forget about "wind power" as an alternative source of power. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1VlkqOC ) [15:42]
mircea_popescu anyway, re nuclear. while it is dirty in a certain way, it has an advantage nothing else does : it would work just as well with the sun turned off. this is a big deal, fundamentally. whether it means anything in practice or not... well... [15:44]
mircea_popescu (before you say "so do fossils" - think again. where do you get the oxygen ?) [15:44]
mircea_popescu contrary to aqll the brouhaha at the time, about how "mankind has found the way to end itself" bla bla, nothing could be further from the truth. nuclear power provides humanity a hard guarantee against large scale catastrophe that no other life has, nor could have without thios particular tech. [15:46]
mircea_popescu it quite literally represents security from thermodynamics, in a way very similar to how the bombs were marketed at the time to represent "Security from the enemies". [15:46]
mircea_popescu (and yes this has been tested in practice, it's not at all theoretical. nuclear subs are more important for THIS reason than whatever justified their existence at the time.) [15:48]
jurov 99% of nuclear is unusable without ample access to cooling water [15:48]
mircea_popescu sure. doesn't do much for this discussion. [15:49]
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mircea_popescu if the sun does turn off, you'll have more ice than you'll know what to do with. [15:50]
mod6 <+PeterL> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385014 << hydro power is proportional to water drop, you can't really get much power out of a flat river like missississippi << very true. the one we were discussing yesterday is at St. Anthonys Falls. Which apparently helped the city long ago get its start. Its not very big, and since they put in the dam, apparenlty this has eroded the origin [15:52]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 05:00:08; BingoBoingo: mod6: When do you think it would make sense to dam the Mississippi river to generate hydroelectric power for mining? [15:52]
mod6 al falls away and now is back further? [15:52]
mod6 Need to look this up quick. [15:52]
mircea_popescu also - the way nuclear is dirty is very peculiar. pollution in the sense of poison - kills everyone. pollution in the sense of nuclear leakeage - does not. it just shortens lifespan and increases the angle of attack at DNA research. [15:53]
jurov don't forget geothermal, better accessible and will keep working for millions of years [15:53]
mircea_popescu it does not present an actual species threat for any species. [15:53]
mircea_popescu and yeah, geothermal. in fact that'll be the competition in case of new ice age. nuclear vs geothermal. [15:54]
mircea_popescu would make a pretty splendid sf novel too. [15:54]
mircea_popescu (all this talk re new ice age is quite on point, incidentally. the crazed us cultists of pseudoscience are loudly proclaiming a narrative bluntly contradictory to the data. altogether more likely we're headed for cool.) [15:55]
mod6 maybe im not quite right about the erosion, anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Anthony_Falls [15:56]
assbot Saint Anthony Falls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1VlnlHe ) [15:56]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform re the picric acid... going anhydrous phenol + fuming sulphuric acid to get hydroxyphenylsulfonic acid and then fuming nitric acid on top of that... should be a fun little experiment :D [16:04]
asciilifeform allahsnackbar.jpg [16:06]
mircea_popescu just keep it cool, bruh. [16:07]
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thestringpuller ben_vulpes: I'm applying for a job in Portland, Oregon. [16:41]
thestringpuller We'll see how this goes! [16:41]
punkman https://z.cash/ ZookoCoin [16:45]
assbot Zcash - All coins are created equal. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZO2BJm ) [16:45]
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asciilifeform zerocoin again ? [16:46]
asciilifeform https://z.cash/team.html << usg rogue's gallery [16:46]
assbot Zcash - Our Team ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZO2QUR ) [16:46]
asciilifeform incl. our old 'friends', roger ver, and pantera co [16:47]
thestringpuller oh roger verified, is dat nigga even in WoT? [16:48]
asciilifeform https://github.com/scipr-lab/libsnark << the crypto lib the thing rides on, in case anybody gives half a shit [16:49]
assbot scipr-lab/libsnark - C++ - GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1nuy1ch ) [16:49]
asciilifeform (i can't bring myself to) [16:49]
asciilifeform holy fuck the academitardism. [16:50]
asciilifeform i am dealing with something quite similar on the other side of my desk, but folks ~pay~ on that side [16:50]
punkman https://github.com/Electric-Coin-Company/zcash/tree/zc.v0.11.2.latest/depends/packages [16:50]
assbot zcash/depends/packages at zc.v0.11.2.latest · Electric-Coin-Company/zcash · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1nuyb38 ) [16:50]
asciilifeform for fucks sake. [16:51]
asciilifeform why does it need ~both~ qt and x11 ? [16:52]
punkman why not [16:52]
punkman does PRB need dbus btw? [16:54]
asciilifeform no idea [16:54]
asciilifeform wouldn't surprise me if it did [16:54]
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BingoBoingo also spurious paragraph break after 1st note << both fixed [17:11]
BingoBoingo ... << dude, i don't care if he gives away clinton's hairy snatch and the secret of immortality 45 minutes in. who the fuck has the time for this sorta thing. << Reddit commnets were lulzy. Didn't sonsider anyone would try listening or operate a browser capable of listening. [17:14]
BingoBoingo hydropower means large lagoons that tend to acumulate toxic deposits that noone wants to touch. coal and nuclear mean radioactive toxic waste, too. while defunct windmill means piece of perfectly usable structural alloy. << How is this different from the Mississippi river at present? [17:18]
jurov i am no mississippi expert [17:18]
BingoBoingo peterL, Just gotta raise the river then [17:19]
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BingoBoingo jurov: Every city's sewer and all the various indistry along it constantly pump weird shit into it. [17:23]
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jurov BingoBoingo: it's different when it's continuously mixed and when it's allowed to settle down and concentrate [17:33]
BingoBoingo Well it already settles down and concentrates in the Gulf of Mexico. This would just move where it happens. [17:34]
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jurov In the Gulf of Mexico there's little change it will spill and kill everything downstream [17:38]
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BingoBoingo Sure, in the gulf of Mexico it just makes big dead zones. Moving the mess upstream preserves tropical beaches while flooding ghetto [17:43]
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BingoBoingo In other lulz https://archive.is/LY9is and https://archive.is/W9HlJ << Delicious tears [17:45]
assbot "Give Coinbase Full Control Over Bitcoin Development" has consensus! : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/20po8dA ) [17:46]
assbot Bitcoin Classic is being attacked, have you noticed? : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/20po918 ) [17:46]
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thestringpuller thos were pretty lulzy [17:50]
BingoBoingo https://sli.mg/a/uG7lU9 [17:54]
assbot Fatty thinks flying is a right, doesn't understand why its being "discriminated" against ... ( http://bit.ly/20poKA5 ) [17:54]
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mircea_popescu heh look at all the kids that don't know better / derps nobody heard about coralled by pantera and advised by gavin & schmuckteam. [17:56]
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mircea_popescu does PRB need dbus btw? << it should, really. [17:56]
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mircea_popescu peterL, Just gotta raise the river then << ideally, put it on a jack. "maybe i'll come down, maybe i won't. don't mess up my beer, man!" [17:57]
thestringpuller wasn't pantera a 90's metal band? [17:58]
BingoBoingo Well, if the dam is tall enough the Mississippi will fill up a good basin. Just gotta make 1993 flood the low water mark [17:58]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: pantera 'capital' too. [17:58]
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mircea_popescu ok the 2nd BingoBoingo link was kinda lulzy. [17:59]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-12-2014#942641 [18:00]
assbot Logged on 02-12-2014 20:47:02; BingoBoingo: Indictment: http://qntra.net/2014/12/changetip-raises-3-5-million-lead-by-pantera-capital/ [18:00]
pete_dushenski etc. [18:00]
mircea_popescu in other news that are nevertheless more relevant to bitcoin than reddit will ever be, http://40.media.tumblr.com/21e7e3dfeb3aabebd8139cbb1937a3f8/tumblr_ni8bn65F111s5t2ojo1_500.jpg [18:00]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: He's trying to make joke about the band Pantera. RIP Dimebag [18:00]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20pph4T ) [18:00]
* pete_dushenski used to listen to pantera, the band, a bit. [18:01]
* asciilifeform just watched the master toggle on a 25 y.o. under-monitor surge protector thingie ~explode~ in a shower of sparks [18:02]
BingoBoingo cool [18:03]
BingoBoingo Happens from time to time [18:03]
asciilifeform not so cool, apparently these are no longer made [18:03]
BingoBoingo Surge protecting part is a wear item [18:03]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: nobody ever gives a fuck about the oxide varistor, it does exactly nothing [18:03]
asciilifeform it's the switches that make that thing spiffy [18:04]
asciilifeform (it was the horizontal kind with individual togglers for each mains plug) [18:04]
BingoBoingo Oh [18:04]
jurov http://www.ethereumpyramid.com/ forget systemd. prb must support this! [18:04]
assbot Ethereum Pyramid Contract ... ( http://bit.ly/20ppCVi ) [18:05]
asciilifeform re: earlier thread, now that zooko is coopted, and previously chaum, and who else, [18:05]
asciilifeform how many cryptographers even left ? [18:05]
asciilifeform bernstein ? [18:05]
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asciilifeform (who exactly ~was~ zooko? known for anything other than 'triangle' aphorism ?) [18:05]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: random question: what is your favorite video game? [18:08]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: 'video' ? [18:08]
thestringpuller yes as in thing you put in computer with flashing lights and stuff that you play for fun [18:09]
asciilifeform ah so computer [18:09]
BingoBoingo !b 4 [18:09]
assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/311FY0C.txt ) [18:09]
asciilifeform ('video' where i live traditionally refers to game consoles that plug into tv) [18:09]
thestringpuller those too [18:09]
asciilifeform those i never had [18:09]
thestringpuller aha. I imagine you would be good at Real Time Strategy games. [18:10]
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asciilifeform eh rts is a mouse-clicking contest [18:10]
thestringpuller Although I don't know anyone that can compete with the Koreans in Starcraft [18:10]
asciilifeform i much liked, e.g., civ1 [18:10]
thestringpuller i can see you liking sid meiers' stuff [18:10]
polarbeard starcraft is more like real time chess, I'd say [18:11]
polarbeard and *also* a clicking contest [18:11]
* asciilifeform pictures realtime chess [18:11]
thestringpuller clicking contest only happens in micro. [18:11]
asciilifeform see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-08-2015#1230700 [18:12]
assbot Logged on 08-08-2015 06:50:36; asciilifeform: reminds me of how, allegedly, a 'go' board and its stones made their way to leonhard euler. and he concluded that the game was played by tossing'em into the cavity at the bottom between the legs [18:12]
thestringpuller you have to keep the economy healthier than your enemies so you can outproduce them. [18:12]
polarbeard which is 60% of winning on starcraft [18:12]
polarbeard battling correctly is even more important than correct resource management [18:12]
polarbeard it allows you to have any chance against a zerg rush [18:13]
thestringpuller Can be. but if you win battle an opponent is still out producing, you can sway battle. [18:13]
polarbeard that's why, I say battling correctly is more important but not much more [18:13]
thestringpuller Best counter to zerg rush walling off [18:13]
thestringpuller the resources zerg has to put into a rush usually puts them at a defecit in mid game [18:13]
polarbeard best counter to zerg rush is correct drone battling [18:14]
thestringpuller only sometimes. cauze I can get a zealot to pop out within 1 minute of game [18:14]
polarbeard but zealot rush sucks against other race's rush [18:14]
thestringpuller you don't rush with zealots you stand guard. protoss is extremely good at defense. [18:15]
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polarbeard marines will shot him dead from the distance [18:15]
polarbeard yes, but zealots are not ready when zerglings are [18:15]
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thestringpuller 1 zealot can take out about 4 zerglings [18:16]
thestringpuller 2 can take out about 9 [18:16]
polarbeard after the zerglings killed all the protos drones [18:16]
thestringpuller it's good form to put 1 cannon behind mineral field for rush [18:16]
thestringpuller which doesn't cap your resources in building zealots [18:16]
polarbeard you can't go for zealots and cannons and resist a zerg rush [18:16]
BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/OC3VflB.jpg [18:17]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PgDGfX ) [18:17]
polarbeard if the map allows it, you may go for cannons and almost surely kill the rush, otherwise you better move those zealots damn well, as you move the drones out of the way [18:17]
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thestringpuller polarbeard: I probably need to watch more replays. [18:21]
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thestringpuller I'm still new to SC2. I'm a WC3 player mostly. Was okay at SC but not any good by any means. [18:22]
polarbeard my very best friend is a top player, we played together since the beginning, but he became incredibly good and I stopped playing :) [18:22]
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polarbeard I actually was referring to SC and SC brood wars [18:23]
polarbeard I have no idea of the SC2 mechanics [18:23]
polarbeard it probably got shittier/more complex/less fun/more spectacular [18:23]
polarbeard idk [18:23]
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BingoBoingo BURNSIDE https://archive.is/Jt2kk [18:26]
assbot Coinbase denies users access to their account records, prevents users from doing their taxes. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1PgENMJ ) [18:26]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385534 << 10 seconds and 5 seconds / move variants got quite popular. [18:28]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 21:09:29; *: asciilifeform pictures realtime chess [18:28]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385558 << fuck you, go lose weight before you do anything else. [18:30]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 21:14:47; BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/OC3VflB.jpg [18:30]
mircea_popescu us "universities" should absoluely put bmi on the list of quals. [18:31]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Standard in chess now is usually 5 or 10 seconds every move before time start coming off the main game clock. [18:31]
mircea_popescu they're shit by now anyway, least they could do is "sorry hon, you're 20 lbs over maximum, can't have college degree" [18:32]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo back when i still had a faint interest it was iirc 60 mins for 60 moves. [18:32]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah, now with the digital clocks they just do a time delay. [18:33]
thestringpuller https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/42n7r0/how_to_sybil_attack_bitcoinclassicconsiderit_with/ << LOL. The Toomim's are getting hit with Sybil attacks now. [18:34]
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mircea_popescu either that or redditards learned a new word from yest's ba log. [18:37]
ben_vulpes thestringpuller: with whom? [18:37]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes: simple.com [18:39]
thestringpuller i'm going to go work for the banks! [18:39]
ben_vulpes good people over ther. [18:39]
ben_vulpes any idea what department? [18:39]
thestringpuller I'm applying to engineering. They just have general listings. So we'll see how it goes. [18:42]
ben_vulpes gl [18:42]
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ben_vulpes i'll buy you a beer and a blunt after your interview [18:42]
thestringpuller If I get to the interview process. I have no connections inside the company so i'm just a rando applying to the company. [18:43]
PeterL peterL, Just gotta raise the river then << this works in narrow canyons, not so much on plains. You gonna build a 100 mile wide dam? [18:43]
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thestringpuller ben_vulpes: but yea if I do get that far I'll take you up on that. [18:43]
danielpbarron https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZlj99KUsAAKyaO.jpg:large << 'ass'ets from a twatter follower of mine [18:46]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PgHoqb ) [18:46]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385577 << iirc they used to have this at mit [18:51]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 21:29:48; mircea_popescu: they're shit by now anyway, least they could do is "sorry hon, you're 20 lbs over maximum, can't have college degree" [18:51]
asciilifeform but at any rate hardly anybody gets fat in uni [18:51]
asciilifeform (this would require food) [18:51]
pete_dushenski danielpbarron: notbad [18:51]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: everyone gets fat at uni ? "freshman 15" [18:54]
asciilifeform wut [18:54]
thestringpuller that's not real. [18:54]
pete_dushenski too busy to eat well and exercise because of studying [18:54]
pete_dushenski it's very real [18:55]
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thestringpuller usually it's the girls who get fat when they stop caring. [18:55]
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thestringpuller had an ex who gained like 40 pounds during her duration in school [18:55]
thestringpuller cuz too lazy to go to gym [18:55]
BingoBoingo peterL, Just gotta raise the river then << this works in narrow canyons, not so much on plains. You gonna build a 100 mile wide dam? << What else. Lots of ghetto to cover [18:55]
PeterL from BingoBoingo link to fat rant: "the look of horror that a thin, cis woman flashed me when she realized that she'd be sitting next to me" << What, a gay chick is going to be excited to cuddle up with fatty chunks for a couple hours? (and wtf is this text in image crap, can't even copy/paste!) [18:59]
BingoBoingo PeterL: It is a defect of their culture [18:59]
PeterL plus, this writing style really grates on me. I feel like I would hate her even if she was not fat. [19:00]
thestringpuller it's not fat it's curvy [19:00]
PeterL there is curvy, and fat. curvy is nice, fat is disgusting. [19:01]
thestringpuller i kno right. lets clean da folds! [19:03]
thestringpuller curvy girls have nice asses tho. the ones that look like they wanna bust out of a pair of yoga pants. [19:04]
mod6 ;;halfreward [19:04]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Sun Jul 17 06:02:17 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 24 weeks, 5 days, 8 hours, and 0 seconds. [19:04]
mod6 ;;tslb [19:05]
gribble Time since last block: 12 minutes and 36 seconds [19:05]
BingoBoingo curvy girls have nice asses tho. the ones that look like they wanna bust out of a pair of yoga pants. << Those asses come from squats, not Beetus [19:09]
pete_dushenski https://bitbet.us/bet/1228/bitcoin-network-hits-1-exahash/ << dear bitbet mods, please to close and resolve as yes. [19:17]
assbot BitBet - Bitcoin Network Hits 1 Exahash :: 105.65 B (96%) on Yes, 3.93 B (4%) on No | closing in 8 months 2 weeks | weight: 82`743 (100`000 to 20`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1n8UoUs ) [19:17]
pete_dushenski looks like xt bet is now most highrollerest. [19:17]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385149 << speaking of bitbet, go denver. [19:19]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 09:53:38; BingoBoingo: Anyways for people who care about the NFL chain (maybe BitBet) A Denver Broncos versus Carolina Panthers superbowl was mined. [19:19]
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PeterL https://bitbet.us/bet/1244/donald-trump-to-win-south-carolina-republican-primary/ << newest bitbet - is there something particularly interesting about SC instead of NH or Iowa? [19:22]
assbot BitBet - Donald Trump to win South Carolina Republican Primary :: 0.39 B (78%) on Yes, 0.11 B (22%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 3 days | weight: 96`236 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Un5Xlb ) [19:22]
copypaste i bet on the more general "Trump wins the nomination" [19:22]
copypaste on yes. [19:22]
* danielpbarron is the dummy who started the rand paul bet [19:23]
PeterL you bet yes on Rand? [19:23]
BingoBoingo OMG look at pete_dushenski BitBet lawyering [19:24]
danielpbarron yeah, and to my dismay he's not even in the debates anymore [19:24]
BingoBoingo PeterL: SC is the first contest in an area that's actually populated to the point it has black people. [19:24]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: :D [19:24]
PeterL he is still the most reasonable of the candidates, unfortunately American's don't care about that [19:24]
copypaste indeed [19:24]
trinque president Camacho Trump incoming [19:24]
danielpbarron i don't actually care if he wins beyond me wanting to win the bet; i personally wouldn't vote for him [19:25]
copypaste Rand wouldn't be a bad president, but Trump has more of the showmanship [19:25]
copypaste Shopwmanship wins in American politics [19:25]
danielpbarron last guy i would've voted for was his dad, Ron Paul [19:25]
BingoBoingo copypaste: Notice though that Trump's showmanship was engrained in the public through NBC, a well known alias for Cliter's recto-vaginal fistula [19:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 151590 @ 0.00055882 = 84.7115 BTC [-] {6} [19:27]
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mod6 ;;tslb [19:36]
gribble Time since last block: 21 minutes and 22 seconds [19:36]
PeterL my prediction for republicans: Trump will win several early states, but as various candidates drop out trump will stay at that 25-30% and one of the other candidates will beat him in the later states [19:39]
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thestringpuller !up bagels7 [19:48]
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bagels7 We had a chicken that toughed out every night in the tree including -30'C storms, the rest slept in the coop [19:49]
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BingoBoingo "A central figure in the Trump-acceptance movement is former presidential nominee and Senate majority leader Bob Dole, the erstwhile Republican establishment standard-bearer who is now just another elderly person in Kansas." << Also former Viagra spokesman [19:51]
BingoBoingo https://archive.is/Ruukz [19:52]
assbot The GOP establishment is pretending to warm to Donald Trump. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NwdhFu ) [19:52]
mod6 Another round of live-fire tests after building deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-99997K.sh [ with a change to line 61 to: './v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch' as to include the mod6_der_high_low_s.vpatch and alf's latest two ] -- the full orchastra builds and works as expected: http://dpaste.com/1S8GVD9.txt [19:52]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nwdh8z ) [19:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78650 @ 0.00054958 = 43.2245 BTC [-] {4} [20:01]
pete_dushenski mod6: wd! [20:01]
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BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/PaHLgO0.png [20:10]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NwfQaF ) [20:10]
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punkman http://kottke.org/16/01/a-small-2009-car-demolishes-a-1959-chevy-in-a-crash-test [20:14]
assbot A small 2009 car demolishes a 1959 Chevy in a crash test ... ( http://bit.ly/1JzmW3s ) [20:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36670 @ 0.00054851 = 20.1139 BTC [-] {2} [20:16]
mircea_popescu PeterL what the dude making the bet cared about ? i imagine he's from sc or whatever. [20:16]
mircea_popescu Rand wouldn't be a bad president, but Trump has more of the showmanship << maybe they name the USS Flagship "Hairpiece" after him. [20:17]
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mircea_popescu yeah, the ram/hdd division is REALLY important. so let's make more flash-based "hdds". [20:19]
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punkman spinning rust sucks [20:21]
asciilifeform ^ [20:21]
punkman and the ram/hdd division is most likely going away [20:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49183 @ 0.00056397 = 27.7377 BTC [+] {2} [20:23]
mircea_popescu 240 * 14383 * 1.25 = 4314900 [20:25]
mircea_popescu oops. [20:25]
punkman "And with persistent transactional memory, there’s an issue that will surely make you smile with recognition: in-place of managing the relationship between volatile memory and disk, we now have to manage the relationship between the volatile CPU cache and memory! It’s all the same considerations (forcing, stealing etc.) but in a new context and with a few new twists." [20:28]
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mircea_popescu "we" don't have to do any such thing. that's why the fucking cpu is there. [20:30]
asciilifeform ^ [20:30]
mircea_popescu and unlike the "we" things "we" do, cpus actuallywork. [20:30]
asciilifeform go manually manage your alu. [20:30]
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mircea_popescu in other boobs, http://49.media.tumblr.com/45fd78e818532b73c136f71a0b5cc38c/tumblr_ncq7bguzWe1rwaupfo2_r1_500.gif [20:35]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jzq6nI ) [20:35]
punkman (excerpt from http://blog.acolyer.org/2016/01/21/blurred-persistence/ ) [20:35]
assbot Blurred Persistence: Efficient Transactions in Persistent Memory | the morning paper ... ( http://bit.ly/1JzqbaZ ) [20:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38000 @ 0.00056737 = 21.5601 BTC [+] [20:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76000 @ 0.00056737 = 43.1201 BTC [+] {2} [20:40]
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BingoBoingo https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/Classic:0.12.99/ << 4 https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/Bitcoin%20XT:0.11.0E/ << 3 [20:42]
assbot Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jzr4At ) [20:42]
assbot Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jzr4QN ) [20:42]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [20:50]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 391.34, vol: 8006.14854718 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 394.7, vol: 6568.51873 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 391.22, vol: 22563.50309897 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 370.0, vol: 2.0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 396.81009, vol: 48039.73050000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 394.01, vol: 463.24396726 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 401.93825, vol: 51.2738617 | Volume-weighted last average: 394.652722705 [20:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.00056878 = 18.7413 BTC [+] {3} [21:04]
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jurov https://github.com/Azelphur/pyMPEx/issues/9 dunno what asshole undertook to "enhance" gnupg output in such way [21:36]
assbot Exception when using with gnupg-2.0.28 · Issue #9 · Azelphur/pyMPEx · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Py3FBN ) [21:36]
deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Zcash will crash just like Gavincoin, Garzikcoin, XT, SegWit, and Classic. Now you know. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/25/zcash-will-crash-just-like-gavincoin-garzikcoin-xt-segwit-and-classic-now-you-know/ [21:36]
jurov https://www.gnupg.org/download/release_notes.html incidentally, no longer updated [21:38]
assbot GnuPG - Release Notes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Py3V3x ) [21:38]
jurov i should have masked >=gnupg:2 and never looked back [21:39]
jurov dunno what i was thinking [21:41]
pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IRB0sxw-YU << for the condo/apt livers [21:43]
assbot Everyone's Upstairs Neighbors - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1QoEDSB ) [21:43]
* pete_dushenski to dinner. ciao ! [21:44]
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BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZmxxPDWIAAS9OD.jpg [21:45]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Py5iiX ) [21:45]
BingoBoingo In other bugs https://github.com/Automattic/wp-calypso/issues/2720 [21:47]
assbot Font: The letter f goes missing or rearranges itself in a word · Issue #2720 · Automattic/wp-calypso · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Py5z5b ) [21:47]
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TomServo Ahoy asseteers [21:52]
jurov hi tom [21:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10274 @ 0.000568 = 5.8356 BTC [-] [21:54]
BingoBoingo https://storify.com/weev/duck-enlightenment-s-final-tweet-spree [21:56]
assbot Jokeocracy's Twitter Martyrdom (with images, tweets) · weev · Storify ... ( http://bit.ly/1Py73wy ) [21:56]
BingoBoingo Hi TomServo [21:56]
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TomServo My new node has been wedged at 252450 past several days (built using wiki instructions). Is this a curiosity at all? Or should I just retry? I certainly could've screwed something up. [21:58]
danielpbarron heh, i saw that spree; he got suspended for it? [21:58]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Purged. Credible reports suggest Twitter is going to do a bigger purge soon, so some loveable jokesters are working to get preeptively purged on their own terms. [21:59]
BingoBoingo Because mircea_popescu is a trendsetter [21:59]
BingoBoingo In other refugee news apparently TaT has a blog now http://www.bitcoinerrorlog.com/2016/01/25/the-bitcoin-blacklist-max-keiser-simon-dixon/ [22:00]
assbot The Bitcoin Blacklist: Max Keiser & Simon Dixon – Bitcoin Error Log ... ( http://bit.ly/1QoFOBo ) [22:00]
TomServo In other other news, new wartard is a fun read: http://wartard.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-geopolitics-of-2016-oil-war-chaos_18.html [22:02]
assbot War Tard: The Geopolitics of 2016: Oil, War, Chaos and Pathological Altruism. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QoG1EF ) [22:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12143 @ 0.000568 = 6.8972 BTC [-] [22:11]
jurov BingoBoingo: how do youknow it's TaT [22:14]
BingoBoingo jurov: Not with cryptological certainty, but he gradually transitioned from using #bitcoin-assets as he social media identity to this bitcoinerrorlog thing. It's likely him. [22:15]
BingoBoingo *his [22:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00056889 = 5.7742 BTC [+] {2} [22:18]
BingoBoingo https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-core-dev/2016-01-20/?msg=58304091&page=2 [22:23]
assbot IRC Logs for #bitcoin-core-dev | BotBot.me [o__o] ... ( http://bit.ly/1PybpUp ) [22:23]
mircea_popescu TomServo prolly the bdb locks issue. [22:27]
mircea_popescu look in the ml for the patch for that. [22:27]
mircea_popescu that we shall have a world war seems a foregone conclusion by now. [22:29]
mircea_popescu That's why every time Obama deploys one of his cloned spokeswomen wearing the "problem glasses" to a White House press briefing << seriously. it's like gaddafi without taste. [22:30]
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BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [22:33]
gribble Current Blocks: 395057 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 78 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 11 hours, 20 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [22:33]
mircea_popescu "it's worth remembering Japan had been under a US oil embargo for years before they 'suddenly' attacked Pearl Harbor in '41. " << decent tidbits in there, under all the cheap "rapport" and assorted throwaway cancerous jokes. [22:33]
mircea_popescu "The Zionists are so used to running American foreign policy for their own benefit and having the US Army take care of their enemies for them (Hussein, Gaddafi, Assad etc) that it was hilarious to watch Netanyahu throw a shit fit in the US Congress " << so far, the only army to ever win an engagement in the middle east is the israeli. twice. [22:36]
mircea_popescu i dun get this fucktarded "we are importants" thing the ustards do around that topic, but anyways. [22:36]
BingoBoingo Two Ocean borders and "docile" neighbors will do that to a people [22:37]
BingoBoingo Now if Aztlan joined the Central powers in the Great War [22:38]
mircea_popescu heh, mexico's been steadily making gains past the colorado for decades. [22:38]
mod6 TomServo: Hi, if you followed the instructions via the wiki, this means you should have built via rotor & V. [22:38]
mod6 1: Have you tried restarting bitcoind to see if that helps get you past this block? [22:39]
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mod6 2: Can you `cat rotor/TEST2/bitcoin/src/db.cpp` and post it to dpaste or somewhere else I might be able to look at it? [22:40]
ben_vulpes > 252450 << lo it doth haunt [22:40]
deedbot- [Qntra] Activists Targeted In Years Long Spear Phishing Campaign - http://qntra.net/2016/01/activists-targeted-in-years-long-spear-phishing-campaign/ [22:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.000568 = 5.1972 BTC [-] [22:48]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "writing in much the same way many other religious persons in the American continent have done before and after them." << would be so much better with briefly discussed examples. [22:52]
mircea_popescu the parallels between say that ridiculous smith character and these derps are striking. [22:53]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Thank you. The best solution to addressing these omissions is likely going to be a follow up. [22:53]
mircea_popescu apparently every american is equally and insescapably stupid. their education, and their intelligence, may color the way they express their stupidity. but you can't take the village out of the girl even if you take the girl out of the village, and you can't take stupid out of americans. [22:54]
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mircea_popescu "oh hurr durr here is how hegel can be applied to maintain what we wish to see!!1" [22:54]
BingoBoingo Well gotta consider who the first crackers on the continent were, bunch of English pricks with various "road to paradise" dreams. [22:55]
BingoBoingo Anyways the Jonathan Edwards guy is prolly a better model for this than the Smith Moromon guy, but gotta chew through more re-reading list first. [22:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40450 @ 0.000568 = 22.9756 BTC [-] [22:57]
asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2016/01/activists-targeted-in-years-long-spear-phishing-campaign/#comment-43123 [23:03]
assbot Activists Targeted In Years Long Spear Phishing Campaign | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/20pKnA5 ) [23:03]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2016/01/activists-targeted-in-years-long-spear-phishing-campaign/#comment-43124 [23:04]
assbot Activists Targeted In Years Long Spear Phishing Campaign | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/20pKxHC ) [23:04]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2016#1385711 << TomServo: how did you press? post your complete set of sha512s [23:05]
assbot Logged on 26-01-2016 00:56:01; TomServo: My new node has been wedged at 252450 past several days (built using wiki instructions). Is this a curiosity at all? Or should I just retry? I certainly could've screwed something up. [23:05]
asciilifeform if you're seeing bdb issues, it is a dead certainty that you did not press a modern tree [23:06]
asciilifeform (either this, or 'cosmic rays') [23:06]
BingoBoingo What about basement rays from radon and granite countertops? [23:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32230 @ 0.00056743 = 18.2883 BTC [-] {3} [23:10]
jurov or pebkac fields [23:11]
ben_vulpes dems da woist [23:14]
BingoBoingo Thinking more on the subject Mississippi river dam would likely have to wait for the last of the uranium to be mined out of Iowa [23:14]
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deedbot- [Qntra] Obamacare Firm Loses Personal Information - http://qntra.net/2016/01/obamacare-firm-loses-personal-information/ [23:16]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://imgur.com/a/MkYNE << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385503 [23:19]
assbot Bzzzt-popp. - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/20pLHmK ) [23:19]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2016 21:00:21; *: asciilifeform just watched the master toggle on a 25 y.o. under-monitor surge protector thingie ~explode~ in a shower of sparks [23:19]
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BingoBoingo Fuck, they really don't/can't make those anymore [23:20]
asciilifeform ^ interestingly, these have tiny incandescent lamps in'em [23:20]
asciilifeform which ~still light~ [23:20]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this one is ancient, possibly older than i am [23:20]
asciilifeform and survived many thousands of toggles [23:20]
asciilifeform it is not visible in the photo, which is a shame, because it was the only reason i even tried to take the photo - the piston in the switch is pockmarked from many, many microwelds [23:21]
BingoBoingo I have a few like that. One 3 outlet square iron box that is likely a transformer but can not confirm because no good descriptive queries return other than ads for not it. Also lacked time to open. [23:21]
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BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2016/01/nacdl-amicus-silk-road-warrant-unconstitutional-according-to-4th-amendment/#comment-43125 [23:27]
assbot NACDL Amicus: Silk Road Warrant Unconstitutional According To 4th Amendment | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/20pMaFx ) [23:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27155 @ 0.00055588 = 15.0949 BTC [-] {3} [23:46]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/7dbae0b73651e39f33ceb6b6dc58d45b/tumblr_mz6ok8aOve1tnxrxto1_1280.jpg "oh this new maid is so much better than the old one!" [23:51]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20pNJ68 ) [23:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform has ONE playing card, and it's a 4 of clobber. [23:54]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it happens to be the cleanest [23:54]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: https://blog.bitpay.com/bitcore-for-microsoft-azure/ << more stuff to add to aws banhammer [23:56]
TomServo mod6: 1) Yes (incidentally, what is the recommended graceful shutdown method?) 2) http://dpaste.com/3ARSCHB [23:56]
assbot dpaste: 3ARSCHB ... ( http://bit.ly/20pO5d8 ) [23:57]
TomServo asciilifeform: Is this correct? http://dpaste.com/2C6N3TZ [23:57]
assbot dpaste: 2C6N3TZ ... ( http://bit.ly/20pO5K8 ) [23:57]
mircea_popescu TomServo still kill -9 [23:57]
asciilifeform TomServo: this is not every useful. it does not tell us what you pressed [23:57]
mod6 TomServo: you have an old db.cpp file somehow. [23:57]
asciilifeform it was never kill -9 ! [23:57]
asciilifeform plain kill and some patience. [23:57]
asciilifeform -9 risks wedging your db. [23:58]
mod6 TomServo: ./bitcoind stop [23:58]
TomServo I think the patience part was my problem. [23:58]
TomServo asciilifeform: what can I provide that is useful? [23:59]
asciilifeform the checksums of the actual source files you end up with. [23:59]
asciilifeform post just the db one [23:59]
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