Forum logs for 16 May 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

jurov	reptilia unceasingly delivers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204142.msg2152938#msg2152938	[00:01]
jurov	he has very interesting taxes strategy	[00:01]
jurov	and seems he wants to go to san jose.. watch out	[00:02]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.01749 = 0.07 BTC [+]	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	apparently his "entry point" has moved down to 3	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	pretty cool.	[00:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00067116 = 7.9197 BTC [+]	[00:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.78 = 8.9 BTC [-]	[00:06]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0175 = 0.035 BTC [+]	[00:09]
inhies	does whomever runs havelock hang out in here?	[00:10]
dub	topace does indeed	[00:10]
jurov	inhies: see http://bitcoin-assets.com/	[00:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 107 @ 0.01865 = 1.9956 BTC [+]	[00:11]
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inhies	i see no topace present :(	[00:11]
inhies	thanks jurov i always forget that damn link	[00:11]
*	inhies notes to check the topic from now on	[00:11]
jurov	cnat raed?	[00:11]
jurov	;)	[00:11]
jurov	topace is there	[00:11]
inhies	jurov: no i mean, here	[00:12]
inhies	theres no user topace present	[00:12]
jurov	ah ok, sorry	[00:12]
jurov	;;seen topace	[00:13]
gribble	topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 23 hours, 18 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: and thats without any sort of announcement going out to current havelock customers :p	[00:13]
jurov	;;seen topace_	[00:13]
gribble	topace_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 15 hours, 56 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: !ticker h asicm	[00:13]
ThickAsThieves	I can get a message to him	[00:13]
ThickAsThieves	if you need me to	[00:13]
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inhies	ThickAsThieves: its nothing important, thank you though	[00:13]
ThickAsThieves	word	[00:14]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.78845 = 3.5769 BTC [+]	[00:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.017512 = 0.1751 BTC [+]	[00:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.0175 = 0.21 BTC [-]	[00:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3766 @ 0.00067116 = 2.5276 BTC [+]	[00:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3535 @ 0.00066905 = 2.3651 BTC [-]	[00:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7549 @ 0.0006688 = 5.0488 BTC [-]	[00:22]
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dub	http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/14/twitter-hate-map-shows-where-racist-homophobic-and-offensive-tweets-originate/	[00:23]
dub	lewl	[00:23]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.017512 = 0.07 BTC [+]	[00:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.750047 = 8.7502 BTC [-]	[00:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 108 @ 0.01845999 = 1.9937 BTC [-]	[00:28]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.750047 = 8.7502 BTC [-]	[00:29]
Willdude123	My laptop with my private keys on is overheating. I think I might just leave it unattended in the sauna.	[00:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.78 BTC [+]	[00:31]
deadweasel	http://www.ulalaunch.com/site/pages/Webcast.shtml 4 minutes and counting til lift off	[00:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 56 @ 0.01809999 = 1.0136 BTC [-]	[00:35]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.765 = 10.59 BTC [-]	[00:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10301 = 0.206 BTC [-]	[00:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.78 BTC [+]	[00:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01749 = 0.2624 BTC [-]	[00:38]
deadweasel	you missed it	[00:39]
deadweasel	:)	[00:39]
deadweasel	looks like a giant flaming dildo	[00:39]
deadweasel	well endowed space junk	[00:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.017512 = 0.0876 BTC [+]	[00:41]
deadweasel	1,300 MPH	[00:43]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10301 = 0.206 BTC [-]	[00:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01749 = 0.035 BTC [-]	[00:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.017512 = 0.0876 BTC [+]	[00:51]
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Scrat	why would anyone give a shit about ULA	[00:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.750001 BTC [-]	[00:53]
kakobrekla	study hard kids.	[00:53]
kakobrekla	stay out of trouble.	[00:53]
Scrat	same old gubbermint contractors leeching your money producing no new technology	[00:54]
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deadweasel	yes, but it might explode on launch.	[00:54]
Scrat	oh, right	[00:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.017512 = 0.4903 BTC [+]	[00:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4495 BTC [-]	[00:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.0501 BTC [-]	[01:00]
ThickAsThieves	i keep getting people pming me to buy my XRP	[01:00]
ThickAsThieves	this latest guy, i said 500XRP for 1BTC	[01:00]
ThickAsThieves	he laughed and offered way less	[01:00]
ThickAsThieves	some bullshit metacoin	[01:00]
Willdude123	what is a PT?	[01:01]
Scrat	personal trainer	[01:01]
Scrat	TAT I sold my free XRP for 0.43 / 40k ;/	[01:01]
Scrat	sucks	[01:02]
ThickAsThieves	i told him that was my price for someone with ziggap.com in his forum signature	[01:02]
Willdude123	I mean a pass throught.	[01:02]
Willdude123	*through	[01:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-]	[01:02]
Scrat	didn't think that a premined coin like that would reach such insane levels	[01:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.0181 = 0.1267 BTC [+]	[01:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 166 @ 0.0181 = 3.0046 BTC [+]	[01:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0181 = 0.0905 BTC [+]	[01:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.05 = 4.1 BTC [-]	[01:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.017512 = 0.07 BTC [+]	[01:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0179 = 0.1074 BTC [-]	[01:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.018 = 0.18 BTC [+]	[01:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0179 = 0.0716 BTC [-]	[01:06]
kakobrekla	hehe	[01:06]
kakobrekla	should go like triple in value	[01:06]
kakobrekla	now that google plunked down 200k	[01:06]
kakobrekla	for ripple	[01:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.779999 BTC [+]	[01:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01749 = 0.1049 BTC [-]	[01:07]
kakobrekla	maybe you could pay google 300k to invest 200k with you	[01:07]
kakobrekla	just for hype and bubble ride	[01:07]
kakobrekla	could be worth it	[01:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.017512 = 0.0876 BTC [+]	[01:08]
kakobrekla	well you are not really paying someone more than bribing	[01:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0179 = 0.1074 BTC [-]	[01:09]
Scrat	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206017.0	[01:09]
Scrat	lol	[01:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.32 BTC [-]	[01:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.018 = 0.18 BTC [+]	[01:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [-]	[01:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.01749 = 0.4722 BTC [-]	[01:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 63 @ 0.018 = 1.134 BTC [+]	[01:14]
*	topace (~jamesgran@unaffiliated/topace) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01805 = 1.805 BTC [+]	[01:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 229 @ 0.01805 = 4.1335 BTC [+]	[01:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.01805 = 4.5125 BTC [+]	[01:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.01805 = 0.3791 BTC [+]	[01:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.017512 BTC [+]	[01:18]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01805 = 0.9025 BTC [+]	[01:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.017512 BTC [+]	[01:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01805 = 3.61 BTC [+]	[01:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01805 = 0.9025 BTC [+]	[01:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01805 = 0.0542 BTC [+]	[01:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01805 = 3.61 BTC [+]	[01:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01805 = 3.61 BTC [+]	[01:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01749 = 0.035 BTC [-]	[01:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2 = 4 BTC [-]	[01:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.017512 = 0.718 BTC [+]	[01:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4 = 2.8 BTC [-]	[01:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.01805 = 0.361 BTC [+]	[01:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 27 @ 0.01805 = 0.4874 BTC [+]	[01:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.01805 = 0.3791 BTC [+]	[01:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01805 = 0.9025 BTC [+]	[01:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01809 = 0.0362 BTC [+]	[01:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 210 @ 0.01809 = 3.7989 BTC [+]	[01:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.01809 = 0.1447 BTC [+]	[01:30]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.017512 BTC [+]	[01:31]
*	Smoovious (~imp586@75-12-89-18.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.01751 = 0.2101 BTC [-]	[01:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01809 BTC [+]	[01:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.01809 = 0.199 BTC [+]	[01:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0179 = 1.79 BTC [-]	[01:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0179 = 0.0358 BTC [-]	[01:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01751 = 0.2276 BTC [-]	[01:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4601 @ 0.0006688 = 3.0771 BTC [-]	[01:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00066706 = 6.137 BTC [-]	[01:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99 @ 0.00066662 = 0.066 BTC [-]	[01:36]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [+]	[01:39]
*	truff1es (~truffles@a91-156-186-193.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 20 @ 0.0165 = 0.33 BTC [-]	[01:42]
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ThickAsThieves	;;later tell Uglux Just checking in :)	[01:46]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[01:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4291 = 4.291 BTC [-]	[01:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [-]	[01:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.0179 = 0.2327 BTC [-]	[01:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 95 @ 0.0179 = 1.7005 BTC [-]	[01:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.017739 = 0.3548 BTC [+]	[01:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 142 @ 0.01824 = 2.5901 BTC [+]	[01:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01824 = 0.0365 BTC [+]	[01:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.017739 = 0.0355 BTC [+]	[01:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.017739 = 0.7096 BTC [+]	[01:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.017739 = 0.1419 BTC [+]	[01:57]
topace	!ticker h asicm	[01:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:ASICM] 1D: 0.01580000 / 0.01757355 / 0.01999999 (12339 shares, 216.84003098 BTC), 7D: 0.01352000 / 0.01560645 / 0.02820000 (59425 shares, 927.41305034 BTC), 30D: 0.01290000 / 0.01541886 / 0.02820000 (65062 shares, 1003.18196534 BTC)	[01:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 55 @ 0.017739 = 0.9756 BTC [+]	[01:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.017739 = 0.0887 BTC [+]	[01:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.017739 = 0.2129 BTC [+]	[02:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 356 @ 0.01824 = 6.4934 BTC [+]	[02:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00067125 = 4.8666 BTC [+]	[02:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00067123 = 3.1548 BTC [-]	[02:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.750001 BTC [+]	[02:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.018245 BTC [+]	[02:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.018245 = 0.0365 BTC [+]	[02:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 142 @ 0.01824 = 2.5901 BTC [-]	[02:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [-]	[02:06]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.017745 = 0.1775 BTC [+]	[02:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.018245 = 0.1825 BTC [+]	[02:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.018245 = 0.1825 BTC [+]	[02:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00066662 = 5.3996 BTC [-]	[02:10]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.3201 BTC [+]	[02:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.017739 = 0.2483 BTC [-]	[02:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.017745 = 0.4791 BTC [+]	[02:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 73 @ 0.018245 = 1.3319 BTC [+]	[02:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.00357 = 0.1071 BTC [-]	[02:14]
*	topace has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)	[02:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.018245 = 0.2372 BTC [+]	[02:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01824 = 0.0365 BTC [-]	[02:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 487 @ 0.018 = 8.766 BTC [-]	[02:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.018245 = 0.0547 BTC [+]	[02:15]
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*	parseval (~parseval@ool-457cead8.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.0181 = 0.2172 BTC [-]	[02:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [-]	[02:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01776 = 0.0355 BTC [+]	[02:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.018 = 0.234 BTC [-]	[02:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 53 @ 0.0179 = 0.9487 BTC [-]	[02:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 134 @ 0.0178 = 2.3852 BTC [-]	[02:23]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01776 = 0.0888 BTC [+]	[02:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0182425 = 0.0912 BTC [+]	[02:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01824 = 0.0365 BTC [-]	[02:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 195 @ 0.01824 = 3.5568 BTC [-]	[02:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0177 = 0.354 BTC [-]	[02:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 60 @ 0.01789 = 1.0734 BTC [-]	[02:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0178 = 0.178 BTC [-]	[02:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 480 @ 0.01780001 = 8.544 BTC [+]	[02:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.0181 = 0.5068 BTC [+]	[02:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0181 BTC [+]	[02:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 158 @ 0.0179 = 2.8282 BTC [-]	[02:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01783629 BTC [-]	[02:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.01780001 = 0.356 BTC [-]	[02:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 16 @ 0.0178 = 0.2848 BTC [-]	[02:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.01751 = 0.2101 BTC [-]	[02:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0178 = 0.0712 BTC [-]	[02:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0175 = 0.105 BTC [-]	[02:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0175 = 0.07 BTC [-]	[02:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2591001 BTC [-]	[02:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.787499 BTC [+]	[02:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.259 = 0.518 BTC [-]	[02:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 170 @ 0.0179 = 3.043 BTC [+]	[02:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.2502 = 1.7514 BTC [-]	[02:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.017769 = 0.0711 BTC [+]	[02:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01795 = 1.795 BTC [+]	[02:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01771 = 0.1063 BTC [-]	[02:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0177 BTC [-]	[02:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 499 @ 0.0176 = 8.7824 BTC [-]	[02:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0176 BTC [-]	[02:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01751 BTC [-]	[02:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01722958 BTC [-]	[02:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.017 = 0.17 BTC [-]	[02:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0169 BTC [-]	[02:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.01686 = 0.5058 BTC [-]	[02:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.01752 = 0.4555 BTC [-]	[02:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 75 @ 0.01768 = 1.326 BTC [+]	[02:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [-]	[02:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [-]	[02:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0177 = 0.1416 BTC [+]	[02:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0175 = 0.175 BTC [-]	[02:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [-]	[02:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 183 @ 0.0176 = 3.2208 BTC [-]	[02:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.787499 BTC [+]	[02:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.017485 = 0.0699 BTC [-]	[02:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0177 = 0.4425 BTC [+]	[02:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7875 BTC [+]	[02:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7875 BTC [+]	[02:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.0177 = 0.1239 BTC [+]	[02:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.017769 = 0.231 BTC [+]	[02:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7875 = 3.575 BTC [+]	[02:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.01776 = 0.2486 BTC [-]	[03:03]
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tbux	hi. Having a big problem with the site, I won a bet and elected the winnings to be paid back to the originating address, however it never happened. Can someone who works fo rthe site PM me please.	[03:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.000666 = 0.0027 BTC [+]	[03:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01776 = 0.0355 BTC [-]	[03:05]
kakobrekla	sure tbux	[03:06]
tbux	thanks	[03:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.78 BTC [-]	[03:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01769337 = 1.7693 BTC [-]	[03:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.01776 = 0.0533 BTC [-]	[03:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 210 @ 0.0177 = 3.717 BTC [+]	[03:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01824 BTC [+]	[03:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01824 BTC [+]	[03:12]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4 = 2.8 BTC [-]	[03:15]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.017765 = 0.0533 BTC [+]	[03:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000666 = 0.002 BTC [+]	[03:16]
inhies	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4 = 2.8 BTC [-]	[03:17]
inhies	wtf	[03:17]
inhies	ah	[03:18]
inhies	option	[03:18]
kakobrekla	hm	[03:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.017765 = 0.0711 BTC [+]	[03:19]
kakobrekla	that should be more clear	[03:19]
kakobrekla	iirc the assbot knows its an option, is just not tellin.	[03:19]
inhies	what an ass..bot..	[03:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.017769 = 0.3731 BTC [+]	[03:21]
ThickAsThieves	assbot doesnt evenreport mpex option excercises	[03:21]
ThickAsThieves	would be cool	[03:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.017769 = 0.1066 BTC [+]	[03:23]
deadweasel	^	[03:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.201 BTC [-]	[03:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4201 = 1.6804 BTC [-]	[03:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.42 = 7.98 BTC [-]	[03:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.017769 = 0.231 BTC [+]	[03:26]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]	[03:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0178 = 0.089 BTC [-]	[03:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0177 = 0.0531 BTC [-]	[03:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [-]	[03:28]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]	[03:30]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.017769 = 0.1066 BTC [+]	[03:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-]	[03:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0177001 = 0.0885 BTC [+]	[03:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 294 @ 0.0177 = 5.2038 BTC [-]	[03:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.017769 = 0.2665 BTC [+]	[03:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0177 = 0.0885 BTC [-]	[03:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.200001 BTC [+]	[03:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0176 = 0.88 BTC [-]	[03:38]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 54 @ 0.0177 = 0.9558 BTC [+]	[03:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01756 = 0.0351 BTC [-]	[03:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.01756 = 0.3688 BTC [-]	[03:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 27 @ 0.01756 = 0.4741 BTC [-]	[03:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0171 = 0.1368 BTC [-]	[03:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 299 @ 0.0175 = 5.2325 BTC [+]	[03:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0176 = 0.88 BTC [+]	[03:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 151 @ 0.01824 = 2.7542 BTC [+]	[03:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.017769 = 0.1066 BTC [+]	[03:42]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.017769 = 0.1422 BTC [+]	[03:45]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.017769 = 0.0355 BTC [+]	[03:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.017769 = 0.0355 BTC [+]	[03:50]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.01809999 = 0.5068 BTC [-]	[03:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 26 @ 0.01809999 = 0.4706 BTC [-]	[03:54]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 195 @ 0.01809999 = 3.5295 BTC [-]	[03:57]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0176 = 0.088 BTC [-]	[03:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0181 = 0.0362 BTC [+]	[03:59]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.017769 = 0.4087 BTC [+]	[04:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.78 BTC [+]	[04:07]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.753001 BTC [-]	[04:09]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.017769 = 0.1599 BTC [+]	[04:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.753 BTC [-]	[04:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [-]	[04:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.741 BTC [-]	[04:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7401 BTC [-]	[04:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.74 BTC [-]	[04:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.017411 = 0.0696 BTC [-]	[04:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.74 = 19.14 BTC [-]	[04:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 54 @ 0.0179 = 0.9666 BTC [-]	[04:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.017 = 0.187 BTC [-]	[04:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.78 = 5.34 BTC [+]	[04:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.017 = 0.51 BTC [-]	[04:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.017 = 0.85 BTC [-]	[04:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.017769 = 1.0661 BTC [+]	[04:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.779999 BTC [-]	[04:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01809999 = 0.181 BTC [+]	[04:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 42 @ 0.0179 = 0.7518 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0179 = 0.2685 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.78 BTC [+]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.78 BTC [+]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.779999 = 24.92 BTC [-]	[04:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00357 BTC [-]	[04:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 68 @ 0.017769 = 1.2083 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.017769 = 0.1955 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.017769 BTC [+]	[04:20]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000666 = 0.0013 BTC [+]	[04:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010098 BTC [+]	[04:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.0177 = 0.6372 BTC [-]	[04:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [-]	[04:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01750001 BTC [-]	[04:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 65 @ 0.01750001 = 1.1375 BTC [-]	[04:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0177 = 0.3717 BTC [-]	[04:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.77 = 7.08 BTC [-]	[04:32]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.765 = 8.825 BTC [-]	[04:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 133 @ 0.017685 = 2.3521 BTC [-]	[04:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 111 @ 0.017685 = 1.963 BTC [-]	[04:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.755 BTC [-]	[04:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0182 = 0.1092 BTC [+]	[04:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 27 @ 1.75 = 47.25 BTC [-]	[04:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000651 BTC [-]	[04:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [-]	[04:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0182 = 0.091 BTC [+]	[04:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 63 @ 0.017685 = 1.1142 BTC [-]	[04:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0177 BTC [+]	[04:44]
benkay	oh man that girl	[04:45]
benkay	"the obvious approach would be to increase the available drama and distributed lulz"	[04:45]
ThickAsThieves	you know what bugs the shit out of me	[04:47]
benkay	do tell	[04:47]
ThickAsThieves	when i place an ask on BTCTC at the same price as someone else	[04:47]
ThickAsThieves	and they lower theirs	[04:47]
ThickAsThieves	idiots	[04:47]
benkay	well you are trading mining shares	[04:48]
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benkay	you made that bed bud. time to sleep in it. with the morons.	[04:49]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[04:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76 BTC [+]	[04:50]
ThickAsThieves	that guy just paid a .01 idiot tax	[04:50]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.981 = 9.905 BTC [-]	[04:51]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.01819 = 0.0728 BTC [-]	[04:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 366 @ 0.01819 = 6.6575 BTC [-]	[04:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01819 = 0.2729 BTC [-]	[04:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76 BTC [+]	[04:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01819 = 0.4548 BTC [-]	[04:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 101 @ 0.01819 = 1.8372 BTC [-]	[04:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.01819 = 0.6185 BTC [-]	[04:54]
benkay	who knows man who knows	[04:54]
benkay	the flipside of that is that you asked too much	[04:54]
ThickAsThieves	nah it's been happening all day	[04:55]
ThickAsThieves	like i'm in a bitcoin twilight zone	[04:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.0177 = 0.7257 BTC [+]	[04:56]
benkay	market seems to think your asks are high	[04:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 156 @ 0.0182 = 2.8392 BTC [+]	[04:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01819 = 0.4548 BTC [-]	[04:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.01819 = 0.7276 BTC [-]	[04:56]
ThickAsThieves	you are misunderstanding	[04:56]
benkay	and it can remain irrational for longer than you can remain solvent, to quote an old fart	[04:56]
ThickAsThieves	when you place an ask at the same price on BTCTC	[04:56]
ThickAsThieves	it respects the older ask first	[04:56]
ThickAsThieves	when someone buys it	[04:56]
ThickAsThieves	so when I place at same price	[04:56]
ThickAsThieves	and they lower theirs in response	[04:56]
ThickAsThieves	they are an idiot	[04:57]
benkay	beautiful	[04:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 12 @ 0.00357 = 0.0428 BTC [-]	[04:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.018 = 0.09 BTC [-]	[04:57]
benkay	how are you planning to take all of their money to teach them a lesson?	[04:57]
ThickAsThieves	buy low, sell high	[04:57]
benkay	boooring	[04:57]
ThickAsThieves	its not a big deal to me	[04:58]
ThickAsThieves	financially	[04:58]
ThickAsThieves	its the pet peeve aspect	[04:58]
ThickAsThieves	of watching someone punch themselves in the face	[04:58]
Chaaang-Noi	[ASICM] 156 @ 0.0182 = 2.8392 BTC [+] wow is that a high?	[04:58]
ThickAsThieves	.0199 earlier :)	[04:58]
Chaaang-Noi	damn	[04:58]
Chaaang-Noi	i think i will sell some more at 2 btc each, but i think we will hit 2.5	[05:00]
Chaaang-Noi	and maybe more at this rate	[05:00]
ThickAsThieves	my feeling from sales this week	[05:00]
ThickAsThieves	is that 2.5 can't happen without another div like this	[05:01]
Chaaang-Noi	usb sticks are going to be crazy profitable	[05:01]
Chaaang-Noi	sell for $220 cost $8	[05:01]
ThickAsThieves	i anticipate friedcat's next post	[05:01]
ThickAsThieves	thats for sure	[05:01]
benkay	totally not a scam, right?	[05:01]
benkay	totally not a scam.	[05:01]
Chaaang-Noi	asic miner?	[05:01]
Chaaang-Noi	they have 20% of the network for sure	[05:01]
Chaaang-Noi	they are selling real asic mining hard ware for sure	[05:02]
Chaaang-Noi	will they reach 1,000 th this year? not sure	[05:02]
benkay	"real"	[05:02]
benkay	as in turns electricity into hashes	[05:02]
benkay	is it even remotely economical?	[05:02]
Chaaang-Noi	yes they do sell hardware that does that, they also mine themselves	[05:02]
Chaaang-Noi	asics are the best things out there	[05:02]
Chaaang-Noi	benkay how long have you been around btc land?	[05:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1800 @ 0.01765 = 31.77 BTC [-]	[05:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.0177 = 0.1947 BTC [+]	[05:03]
benkay	like maybe a week	[05:03]
jborkl	percent of the network and hw sales is all that matters	[05:03]
benkay	i have 2 bitcoins	[05:03]
jborkl	no th	[05:03]
jborkl	not	[05:03]
benkay	why won't you let me trade on mpex?	[05:03]
Chaaang-Noi	okay, how did you find this chan?	[05:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0177 BTC [+]	[05:03]
Chaaang-Noi	why would you want to trade on mpex?	[05:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.981 = 3.962 BTC [-]	[05:04]
benkay	to short the coins, duh	[05:04]
ThickAsThieves	benkay is trolling	[05:04]
Chaaang-Noi	i see	[05:04]
benkay	hey man	[05:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [-]	[05:04]
*	ThickAsThieves spanks benkay	[05:04]
benkay	the question that i'm asking is whether the investment in the chips pays off. ever.	[05:05]
Chaaang-Noi	most of thje time the truly ignorant cant find this chan	[05:05]
benkay	i know!	[05:05]
benkay	how the fuck did i make it in here	[05:05]
ThickAsThieves	benkay your question is odd	[05:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 52 @ 0.00357 = 0.1856 BTC [-]	[05:05]
ThickAsThieves	i dont understand	[05:05]
Chaaang-Noi	benkay they have paid out like 4005 of money invested, if you mean should you buy from them at 50 btc each? dont know	[05:05]
Chaaang-Noi	the usb sticks, you might make some money in 2 years....	[05:05]
benkay	that's what i'm talking about, c-n	[05:06]
ThickAsThieves	oh	[05:06]
jborkl	is making pennies economical?	[05:06]
benkay	hardware sales themselves as scam	[05:06]
Chaaang-Noi	400%	[05:06]
ThickAsThieves	this is whats going on with the hardware	[05:06]
jborkl	fuck no	[05:06]
ThickAsThieves	i can explain it two ways	[05:06]
Chaaang-Noi	benkey sorry but im going to ignore you, i think you are trolling	[05:06]
benkay	nono my trolls are obvious	[05:06]
ThickAsThieves	1. AM sells hardware at whatever price the market will bear. Stop trying to rationalize it further.	[05:06]
benkay	i have yet to see a tvom approach to mining hardware roi analysis	[05:06]
benkay	duh, they'd be horrible at their core business otherwise	[05:07]
ThickAsThieves	2. AM is pricing hardware at the exact price to where it becomes questionable as to whether a buyer should buy it, thus AM is posing less of a risk to it's own mining op	[05:07]
benkay	it's a great biz-move	[05:08]
ThickAsThieves	but admittedly,	[05:08]
ThickAsThieves	like you said	[05:08]
ThickAsThieves	moron miners	[05:08]
ThickAsThieves	paying moron prices	[05:08]
benkay	for asicminer shares :D:D:D:D	[05:08]
ThickAsThieves	thats remains to be seen	[05:09]
Namworld	TAT, short version: "Most are ignorant of difficulty increase. Most see current generation. Most buy based on current generation."	[05:09]
ThickAsThieves	while they are certainly a risk at these prices	[05:09]
ThickAsThieves	Friedcat has demonstrated	[05:09]
ThickAsThieves	and he will continue to do so	[05:09]
ThickAsThieves	as long as he cares too	[05:09]
ThickAsThieves	or the world will let him	[05:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01839999 = 0.0368 BTC [+]	[05:10]
benkay	it's an interesting distraction for the rest of the world, i'm sure	[05:10]
ThickAsThieves	if SDICE had a shade of AM's business sense, they'd be banking just as much	[05:10]
benkay	what should SD do differently?	[05:11]
ThickAsThieves	try	[05:11]
ThickAsThieves	simple as that	[05:11]
benkay	i was rooting for that german to take over the bitcoin gem	[05:11]
benkay	just a little a/b would go a long way in the buttcorn gambling space imho	[05:11]
ThickAsThieves	sdice left millions on the table	[05:12]
ThickAsThieves	sure he banked for himself	[05:12]
benkay	how so?	[05:12]
ThickAsThieves	seriously?	[05:12]
benkay	before my time	[05:12]
ThickAsThieves	well	[05:12]
benkay	also i r idiots, come on	[05:12]
ThickAsThieves	it was a massively popular bitcoin business	[05:13]
ThickAsThieves	and place to gamble	[05:13]
ThickAsThieves	they have a Games button on blockchain.info	[05:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 333 @ 0.00358 = 1.1921 BTC [+]	[05:13]
ThickAsThieves	they have(had) tons of fans	[05:13]
ThickAsThieves	but they just let it all be	[05:13]
ThickAsThieves	no growth	[05:13]
ThickAsThieves	no marketing worth mentioning	[05:14]
ThickAsThieves	no new features	[05:14]
ThickAsThieves	no new games	[05:14]
benkay	yup	[05:14]
ThickAsThieves	no new partnerships	[05:14]
ThickAsThieves	nothing	[05:14]
benkay	just waiting for the next competitor to come along and break their knees	[05:14]
ThickAsThieves	its insulting to investors	[05:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0177 = 0.2655 BTC [+]	[05:14]
ThickAsThieves	and why i sold 130,000 shares	[05:14]
benkay	it's kind of what you get for investing in accidental successes.	[05:14]
benkay	such are rarely piloted by humans capable of building companies that continue to grow	[05:15]
benkay	and i get the sense SD was built by someone who wanted to build a buttcorn generating machine	[05:15]
benkay	and didn't actually care about, you know, building, establishing and growing a real company.	[05:15]
benkay	but i r idiots as we all know	[05:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 110 @ 0.018 = 1.98 BTC [-]	[05:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 390 @ 0.01795 = 7.0005 BTC [-]	[05:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0178 = 0.356 BTC [-]	[05:16]
ThickAsThieves	well as you can see, i agree	[05:16]
ThickAsThieves	he and mp banked on the ipo	[05:16]
ThickAsThieves	banked on the 3 tranches	[05:16]
ThickAsThieves	and peaced out	[05:16]
benkay	a well executed hustle	[05:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.0178 = 0.534 BTC [-]	[05:17]
Chaaang-Noi	http://powersports.honda.com/assets/flash/model/gallery/CBR250R_2013_01.jpg i bought the white one yesterday :)	[05:17]
ThickAsThieves	i like the orange better	[05:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0177 = 0.1062 BTC [+]	[05:17]
ThickAsThieves	but i also like my life too much to ride one of those	[05:17]
Chaaang-Noi	they only had the white one in the store, it was that or wait	[05:17]
Chaaang-Noi	also honestly iv never seen the orange on for sale in thailand and dont think they do	[05:18]
Chaaang-Noi	wife says i cant drive the racing bike drunk :(	[05:18]
ThickAsThieves	you bette rnot	[05:18]
benkay	an hero	[05:18]
Namworld	I'd have wanted the black. I love black stuff	[05:18]
*	ThickAsThieves points to Nam's favorite black dildo	[05:18]
Namworld	>.>	[05:19]
Chaaang-Noi	wife wanted the red one, son wanted black, but i really did not care and they had a white one	[05:19]
Chaaang-Noi	had to wait at least a month for the others	[05:19]
benkay	3rd world problems?	[05:20]
Chaaang-Noi	:)	[05:21]
Chaaang-Noi	thailand (unless you are a farmer) is not 3rd world	[05:22]
benkay	your stores are out of motorcycles	[05:22]
benkay	i beg to disagree	[05:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00066912 = 6.3566 BTC [+]	[05:22]
Chaaang-Noi	just that style	[05:22]
benkay	hey you guise	[05:23]
benkay	i got moar things	[05:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 66 @ 0.01829999 = 1.2078 BTC [+]	[05:23]
Chaaang-Noi	they are honestly reasonable prices, that bike was only 4,000$	[05:23]
benkay	let's talk about how much i spent on them	[05:23]
Chaaang-Noi	the ducati i wanted was $30,000	[05:23]
benkay	those are nice bikes	[05:23]
jborkl	still only half a week of your AM div	[05:23]
Bugpowda	Back from the startup mixer	[05:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010098 BTC [+]	[05:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 43 @ 0.01829999 = 0.7869 BTC [+]	[05:24]
Chaaang-Noi	im only going to be here likle 2 months so seemed silly to buy one, esp since it would take a month to get it here	[05:24]
Bugpowda	Met with a coinlab rep	[05:24]
Chaaang-Noi	how did that go?	[05:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.003179 = 0.0095 BTC [+]	[05:24]
Bugpowda	The main coinlab team pulled out	[05:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.74 BTC [-]	[05:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.73 BTC [-]	[05:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00331 = 0.0099 BTC [+]	[05:24]
Bugpowda	but one girl showed up to rep them	[05:24]
Bugpowda	check it	[05:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.72 BTC [-]	[05:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 39 @ 0.00332 = 0.1295 BTC [+]	[05:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.71 = 3.42 BTC [-]	[05:24]
benkay	piiiics	[05:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 69 @ 0.003395 = 0.2343 BTC [+]	[05:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.7 = 10.2 BTC [-]	[05:25]
jborkl	i already had my motorcycle .2 wrecks and 3 friends in wrecks . no more	[05:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 71 @ 0.0034 = 0.2414 BTC [+]	[05:25]
ThickAsThieves	cool	[05:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 44 @ 0.00344 = 0.1514 BTC [+]	[05:25]
Bugpowda	https://twitter.com/AndrewHires/status/334830572771885056/photo/1	[05:25]
Bugpowda	She pitched me on their strategy	[05:25]
Namworld	I wish I could go back in time. Put everything in AM.	[05:25]
ThickAsThieves	Bug, you look very happy with yourself	[05:25]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[05:25]
Bugpowda	They are super focused	[05:26]
Bugpowda	on three projects	[05:26]
Bugpowda	the HPC	[05:26]
Namworld	I'd have gotten like 40k USD for last weeks' dividend...	[05:26]
Bugpowda	The exchange	[05:26]
Chaaang-Noi	i need to get a pr girl like that...	[05:26]
Bugpowda	and I forget the 3rd one	[05:26]
Chaaang-Noi	namworld should not have sold all at .4 :(	[05:26]
ThickAsThieves	so do you think they'll actually end up doing something worth doing?	[05:26]
Bugpowda	I gave her a hard time about the 'exchange'....	[05:26]
Namworld	Yeah, well what I sold wasn't that much...	[05:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.755 BTC [+]	[05:27]
Bugpowda	Then she said their real target is high net worth individuals	[05:27]
Bugpowda	moving that money around	[05:27]
ThickAsThieves	cool	[05:27]
Chaaang-Noi	that is more or less on their website	[05:27]
ThickAsThieves	that helps everyone	[05:27]
ThickAsThieves	getting big money in	[05:27]
Bugpowda	So I told her that I wanted to pull out 5000 BTC into cash, how can I do that with them	[05:27]
Bugpowda	I am worried about MtGox blah blah blah	[05:28]
benkay	good man	[05:28]
Chaaang-Noi	bug dsont use them, they will make you pay takes and what not	[05:28]
Chaaang-Noi	taxes *	[05:28]
Bugpowda	Chaaang-Noi: gotta pay taxes anyway	[05:28]
Bugpowda	She said there is one person that handles all the High Net clients personallly, holds their hand thru the process.	[05:28]
Chaaang-Noi	yes and no, i have just been selling my coins at $3.20 each... ($1 silver eagle coins)	[05:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01829999 BTC [+]	[05:29]
Chaaang-Noi	love how silver coins have a fiat face value of $1 :)	[05:29]
Bugpowda	Then I pressed on it... I AM actually interested	[05:29]
benkay	mhm	[05:29]
benkay	keep talking like this i like it	[05:29]
Bugpowda	She says they aren't going to move any money until they settle the lawsuit	[05:29]
benkay	:sad trombone:	[05:29]
Chaaang-Noi	bug, that could take ages :(	[05:30]
Bugpowda	Everything is actually on hold till they settle	[05:30]
Bugpowda	Nah	[05:30]
Bugpowda	I think the will settle it quick	[05:30]
Bugpowda	just as I suspected	[05:30]
ThickAsThieves	could be longer with this DHS shit now no?	[05:30]
Bugpowda	It's their alternative to a down round of funding	[05:30]
Chaaang-Noi	quick and gox dont really go together	[05:30]
Bugpowda	ThickAsThieves: Hmm.... maybe	[05:30]
benkay	i have a hunch that the DHS is a function of good lawyering on some SV companies' behalf	[05:30]
Bugpowda	Chaaang-Noi: It all depends on the cost	[05:30]
Bugpowda	benkay: totally	[05:30]
Chaaang-Noi	gox is too stupid to do what is best for it and its customers	[05:31]
Bugpowda	there are a TON of hush mode startups in bitcoin right now	[05:31]
benkay	people who claim the us isn't like other relationship-based countries just don't get it	[05:31]
Chaaang-Noi	im pretty sure gox will fuck this up some how	[05:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01829999 = 1.83 BTC [+]	[05:31]
ThickAsThieves	I had a VC contact me today	[05:31]
Chaaang-Noi	why?	[05:31]
ThickAsThieves	a manager at Zynga	[05:31]
ThickAsThieves	wanted me to hook him up with Friedcat	[05:32]
benkay	wait are they a manager at a shit facebook company or a venture capitalist?	[05:32]
ThickAsThieves	both	[05:32]
jborkl	zynga is a mile from me	[05:32]
ThickAsThieves	i dont know if he was representing Zynga though	[05:32]
Chaaang-Noi	oh yeah, people have been contacting me as well to get to friedcat,	[05:32]
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Chaaang-Noi	people have been trying to make deals off the table with me for friedcat, i just lol at them	[05:32]
ThickAsThieves	yeah	[05:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010098 BTC [+]	[05:33]
ThickAsThieves	he told me i would be (lemme look it up)	[05:33]
Chaaang-Noi	im like lol talk to him directly but he will jsut ignore you	[05:33]
ThickAsThieves	thats what i said	[05:33]
ThickAsThieves	and he said	[05:33]
ThickAsThieves	"thank you for getting back to me so fast. i'm looking for someone to broker an introduction and start us off on the right foot, that i could then generously thank in return."	[05:33]
ThickAsThieves	it was this guy	[05:34]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewartz	[05:34]
ThickAsThieves	he's probly reading us now	[05:34]
ThickAsThieves	and all mad at me	[05:34]
Chaaang-Noi	yeah these guys are willing to pay just to get friedcat to respond	[05:34]
Chaaang-Noi	one russian guy was the craziest, he thought he could buy at like 10% of going market rate	[05:34]
ThickAsThieves	it was interesting and unexpected nonetheless	[05:35]
Chaaang-Noi	who here has paypal? is it easy to set up? do i need my bank info?	[05:35]
ThickAsThieves	set mine up ages ago	[05:36]
ThickAsThieves	dunno	[05:36]
Chaaang-Noi	it seems to be an option for selling btc	[05:38]
Chaaang-Noi	ironiccly i started using btc cuz i hated paypal and banks, now i use them more than evar :(	[05:38]
ThickAsThieves	but cant tx be reversed?	[05:39]
Chaaang-Noi	http://www.apmex.com/Product/72462/2013_Silver_Eagle_500_Coin_Monster_Box_SF_Mint_Sealed.aspx anyone want to sell me one of these? 130 btc for $500!	[05:39]
Bugpowda	tx can be reversed for 1-3 months	[05:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0177 BTC [+]	[05:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.0177 = 0.2478 BTC [+]	[05:41]
Chaaang-Noi	i was going to use someone i trusted	[05:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0177 BTC [+]	[05:42]
Chaaang-Noi	and in small amounts, and just for some stuff to buy off of ebay	[05:42]
Bugpowda	Only $4.49 per coin over spot!	[05:42]
Bugpowda	jesus	[05:42]
Bugpowda	what a fucking ripoff	[05:42]
Namworld	Paypal's a bitch, but that bitch can go anywhere. And claw back visciously your money when you ask her.	[05:42]
Chaaang-Noi	bug, it was $8	[05:42]
Bugpowda	$14000	[05:43]
Chaaang-Noi	and also bug, you can sell them back for over spot	[05:43]
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Chaaang-Noi	silver bars are cool, but its not legal tendar :(	[05:43]
Bugpowda	people are so desperate for silver coins that they will pay 20% over price?	[05:43]
Bugpowda	so stupid	[05:43]
Bugpowda	they only market is the deranged	[05:44]
Chaaang-Noi	bug they sell rounds for $1 over spot	[05:44]
Bugpowda	metals are collapsing	[05:44]
Chaaang-Noi	ill link you hold on	[05:44]
Bugpowda	I don't need a link	[05:44]
Bugpowda	I'm not buying	[05:44]
Chaaang-Noi	okay	[05:44]
Chaaang-Noi	yeah metals are going down, but i want to buy as they go down, i think long term silver is solid	[05:44]
Chaaang-Noi	im getting into silver cuz 100% in crypto is not really smart since i have to support a family	[05:45]
kakobrekla	and whores	[05:45]
Chaaang-Noi	only their coke habbits	[05:45]
Chaaang-Noi	im getting to damn old, have a bit of a hang over from last night and i did not drink that much :/	[05:46]
Chaaang-Noi	to be 18 again...	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	silver is abundant. people have been trying to sell it as worthwhile and "an investment" or "money" since the great debates in the us in the 1800s	[05:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01726 BTC [-]	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	but on the face of it silver is a sort of tin.	[05:46]
Chaaang-Noi	people ahve been trying to sell silver as money since 60000 years ago....	[05:46]
Chaaang-Noi	fuck 6000	[05:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.0177 = 3.54 BTC [-]	[05:47]
Chaaang-Noi	silver and gold is the oldest form of money we still use	[05:47]
Chaaang-Noi	i hold silver in the usa and gold here in thailand as a shtf backup and not a large percent of my assets just 5 to 10%	[05:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0179 = 1.79 BTC [+]	[05:48]
asciilifeform	a long shot, but does anyone here know what floating point representation btc-e uses?	[05:48]
Chaaang-Noi	i think every person should ahve some physical silver and gold just incase	[05:48]
ThickAsThieves	in case we need to melt it down for a spear and arrows?	[05:49]
Chaaang-Noi	dont know, sorry $litecoin might have a better shot of knowing	[05:49]
ThickAsThieves	pew pew	[05:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010098 BTC [+]	[05:49]
Chaaang-Noi	#litecoin	[05:49]
Chaaang-Noi	if you are trapped in a nationstate that prints their money to worthlessness you will need silver and gold	[05:49]
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Chaaang-Noi	it happens...	[05:50]
Chaaang-Noi	its something you hope you never have to use, but if you do need it, you will be glad as fuck you have it	[05:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]	[05:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76 BTC [+]	[05:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01764 BTC [+]	[05:51]
Chaaang-Noi	you guys going to celibrate pizza day? may 22nd?	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	silver never was money.	[05:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2511 = 1.2555 BTC [+]	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	gold is money. silver is this thing that poor people keep tryiong to pass as money	[05:52]
Chaaang-Noi	i have a roman coin that sure looks like money	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	ya well, romans ran scams too.	[05:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4 = 2.8 BTC [-]	[05:52]
Chaaang-Noi	gold is money silver is a scam is like saying btc is money and ltc is a scam :)	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	look. there's more than 100x as much silver available as gold. for every 6 dollars or so that silver goes up in price the production capacity doubles	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	it's just not scarce. what else is there ?	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	it goes from 5 to 50 and back and again with the folly of the crowds, over the decades and centuries.	[05:53]
Chaaang-Noi	not above ground, its about equal, and under ground its about 1/16 ratio	[05:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7 = 3.4 BTC [+]	[05:53]
Chaaang-Noi	where did you get this 100x?	[05:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 49 @ 0.01764 = 0.8644 BTC [+]	[05:54]
Chaaang-Noi	i bought most my silver at $7 and yeah i think its high	[05:54]
Chaaang-Noi	i sold much of it at $35 years ago and bought btc	[05:54]
Chaaang-Noi	just buying some back in, more than i ever had really	[05:54]
ThickAsThieves	buying metals never made sense to me	[05:55]
Chaaang-Noi	silver is not perfect but its smart to have 5 to 10 % of wealth in gold silver	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	listen. in 2011 alone, mexico alone produced ~4500 tonnes of the stuff.	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	the world like 20k tonnes. in one year.	[05:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.45 = 5.8 BTC [-]	[05:55]
ThickAsThieves	other than when we hit recession and a bajillion We Buy Gold stores popped up	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	this is like... all the gold that exists.	[05:55]
ThickAsThieves	and i wished i had ridden that wave	[05:55]
asciilifeform	Chaaang-Noi: the real question of our time is: how much lead one should hold.	[05:55]
Chaaang-Noi	we use silver in industry, we just store gold...	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	industry my foot.	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	what, jewelry for poor but ambitious indian girls ?	[05:56]
Chaaang-Noi	holding lead would work as well, however you get into storage issues	[05:56]
mircea_popescu	that's not industry.	[05:56]
ThickAsThieves	werewolves man	[05:56]
ThickAsThieves	dont you watch True Blood?	[05:56]
Chaaang-Noi	lol	[05:56]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves what amuses me the most is this "silver is valuable cause it can work as currency" nonsense.	[05:56]
mircea_popescu	tell you wahjt, if i'm the boss of a tribe and i need a curtrency ima make teeth the currenyc.	[05:56]
Chaaang-Noi	you guys, i think you are pretty ignorant about this and are not trolling, but if you are trolling you are doing a fine job :)	[05:56]
mircea_popescu	you don't get proper ones till about 12 or so, and the owner always objects to having teeth pulled.	[05:56]
mircea_popescu	so there you go, teeth are the coin. problem solved.	[05:57]
mircea_popescu	has this increased the value of teeth any ?	[05:57]
ThickAsThieves	on that sense i dont think gold is a currency either	[05:57]
mircea_popescu	well, much like adult teeth, gold is finite.	[05:57]
Chaaang-Noi	things are worth what people pay for them...	[05:57]
mircea_popescu	silver is pretty much like seasalt, can make as much of the stuff as you can possibly ever want.	[05:57]
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mircea_popescu	Chaaang-Noi no, not at all.	[05:58]
asciilifeform	by this logic, teeth are nothing compared to fresh, still-beating hearts.	[05:58]
Chaaang-Noi	gold bugs cant un derstand crypto, but honestly i thought crypto people would understand gold...	[05:58]
ThickAsThieves	but there are limited siamese twins too	[05:58]
ThickAsThieves	no one cares much	[05:58]
asciilifeform	meatcoin.	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	for that matter, 19th century england was trying to create demand for silver by making 50lb silverware sets a sort of middle class standard	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	that went nowehre, so...	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform hearts don't keep fresh.	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	teeth do.	[05:58]
asciilifeform	why not thighbones, then	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	would work yes	[05:59]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	you don't have to kill someone to take his teeth tho	[05:59]
asciilifeform	skulls, etc	[05:59]
ThickAsThieves	our quest for a better currency	[05:59]
Chaaang-Noi	i find your guys reaction to gold and silver as a store of value very funny :)	[05:59]
ThickAsThieves	it never ends	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	and they're smaller, easier to carry and 32 of them	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	i tell you. teeth.	[05:59]
Chaaang-Noi	cbtc, oh yeah thats money, gold? lol!	[05:59]
ThickAsThieves	how about moon rocks?	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	the theory is that "civilisation collapsed" and so now silver rounds are finally good for something	[06:00]
mircea_popescu	(presumably other than being stolen from you)	[06:00]
ThickAsThieves	the theory of apocalyptic collapse is absurd imo	[06:00]
asciilifeform	hearts should please the demurrage weirdos	[06:00]
asciilifeform	use it or lose it	[06:00]
ThickAsThieves	if shit hits the fan	[06:00]
ThickAsThieves	no one wants your fucking gold	[06:01]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves for some reason that concept is hard to grasp.	[06:01]
mircea_popescu	that reason may be historical recourse.	[06:01]
ThickAsThieves	they want food, weapons and women	[06:01]
ThickAsThieves	havent you seen Waterworld? geeez...	[06:02]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[06:02]
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ThickAsThieves	how about this	[06:02]
ThickAsThieves	if you wanna cover your ass	[06:02]
ThickAsThieves	buy a golden gun	[06:03]
mircea_popescu	lol	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	then your covered either way	[06:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0182 = 0.182 BTC [+]	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	with silver bullets	[06:03]
benkay	'cept the dang thing's useless	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	just in case werewolves are the cause	[06:03]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves http://www.google.com/search?q=golden+desert+eagle	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	perfect!	[06:03]
benkay	plating	[06:03]
benkay	boring	[06:03]
mircea_popescu	never underestimate the power of bling	[06:03]
mircea_popescu	gold plated steel firing silver bullets.	[06:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.0182 = 0.3276 BTC [+]	[06:04]
ThickAsThieves	instant payment system	[06:04]
mircea_popescu	i suppose i gotta go snort powdered bohemia crystal nao	[06:04]
benkay	?	[06:04]
benkay	what brand of recreationals would that be?	[06:05]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01764 = 0.0353 BTC [+]	[06:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01764 = 0.1058 BTC [+]	[06:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 49 @ 0.01726 = 0.8457 BTC [-]	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	benkay superluxurious stuff : overpriced and no effect whatsoever.	[06:06]
asciilifeform	http://liveghana.tv/trending/man-with-the-golden-gun-gold-plated-ak-47-confiscated-during-arrest-of-mexican-cartel-leader-and-hes-got-gold-bullets-too.html	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	it's what the wiggaz use.	[06:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0172 BTC [-]	[06:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.0172 = 0.2236 BTC [-]	[06:06]
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benkay	some day i'll have use for bling	[06:07]
benkay	i try to get by on delivering value right now	[06:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 112 @ 0.018 = 2.016 BTC [-]	[06:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.0179 = 1.253 BTC [-]	[06:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 238 @ 0.01770011 = 4.2126 BTC [-]	[06:08]
ThickAsThieves	you deliver papa johns?	[06:08]
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benkay	that's not value	[06:08]
benkay	that's diabetes	[06:08]
asciilifeform	ok as far as I can tell both mtgox and btce are salami slicing in the 5th decimal point and down.	[06:08]
asciilifeform	is this news? and does anyone give a shit?	[06:08]
benkay	salami slicing?	[06:09]
ThickAsThieves	that means they keep it?	[06:09]
asciilifeform	yes	[06:09]
ThickAsThieves	nice	[06:09]
asciilifeform	randomly, too	[06:09]
benkay	nice	[06:09]
benkay	yo dude i herd u can't in2 floating point	[06:09]
benkay	let me tell u bout these newfangled integers	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	for fucks sake	[06:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.72 BTC [+]	[06:10]
mircea_popescu	they're on floats aren't they ?	[06:10]
benkay	it's big boy math mp	[06:10]
benkay	Computer Science	[06:10]
asciilifeform	nominally, yes	[06:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.710001 BTC [-]	[06:10]
kakobrekla	asciilifeform bitstamp does that from 2nd decimal point	[06:11]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: non-deterministically?	[06:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.71 BTC [-]	[06:11]
asciilifeform	I wasn't talking about straight-out truncation or rounding	[06:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01768 = 0.1061 BTC [+]	[06:11]
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kakobrekla	dunno what you have in mind but min fee there is 0.01 usd even if btc value for which the fee is for is less than that	[06:12]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7 = 3.4 BTC [-]	[06:12]
benkay	where would the fun in deterministic satoshi handling be?	[06:12]
benkay	heaven forfend any of us actually try to balance our books ever	[06:13]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: I do know this. what I was talking about is the stated multiplications being very slightly off, in their favor.	[06:13]
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kakobrekla	ah	[06:13]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [-]	[06:14]
kakobrekla	the infrasturcutre is laughable	[06:14]
kakobrekla	this is old story now	[06:14]
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benkay	will we need to wait for a whole new generation?	[06:14]
benkay	or has first-to-market advantage ruined this space?	[06:15]
asciilifeform	if this is a bug, it is a very clever bug.	[06:15]
Chaaaang-Noi	* Chaaang-Noi has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (odd)	[06:15]
benkay	er	[06:15]
benkay	same question.	[06:15]
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kakobrekla	asciilifeform "never assume malice when incompetence will do" is what they say about bitbet... i think it applies here better	[06:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01768 = 0.0884 BTC [+]	[06:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 112 @ 0.0182 = 2.0384 BTC [+]	[06:16]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: I've been trying to reproduce the exact incompetence, for my simulated trader, with no success so far. tried every FP representation I could think of.	[06:16]
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kakobrekla	lol	[06:17]
kakobrekla	you fail at failing	[06:17]
Chaaaang-Noi	:)	[06:17]
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mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/teeth/	[06:18]
mircea_popescu	there you go all, you're famous again	[06:19]
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kakobrekla	hey my whores comment is missing	[06:19]
kakobrekla	wtf	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	i got you on ignore that's why :D	[06:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 297 @ 0.01834 = 5.447 BTC [+]	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	unrelated : "Please read the attached business proposal and get back to me at your earliest convenience with your thoughts and reaction. Email me on: farouk.kazeem@syriaweb.net"	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	originally i thought it must be some bitcoin dood.	[06:20]
benkay	but instead...	[06:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9301 BTC [-]	[06:23]
kakobrekla	its regular money dood.	[06:23]
mircea_popescu	he probably wants silver.	[06:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 105 @ 0.01833 = 1.9247 BTC [-]	[06:24]
benkay	ah he wants to be put in touch with the supernodes then	[06:24]
mircea_popescu	totally.	[06:24]
Chaaaang-Noi	Silver: 0.000007%, or 7 parts per million (%)	[06:24]
Chaaaang-Noi	Gold: < 0.000005%, or <5 parts per million (%)	[06:24]
mircea_popescu	anyway, tomorrow i'm inspecting a new girl so i need my sleep. take it easy all.	[06:24]
Chaaaang-Noi	seems they are mining silver and gold at an 8 to one ratio as well	[06:24]
Chaaaang-Noi	im sure you pulled that 100x number out of your ass	[06:25]
benkay	you care too much, c-n	[06:25]
Chaaaang-Noi	lol, have a good night	[06:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.670001 BTC [-]	[06:25]
mircea_popescu	Chaaaang-Noi :	[06:26]
mircea_popescu	CPM Group (2011). The CPM Silver Yearbook 2011 : total silver production in world history, 750mn ounces.	[06:26]
mircea_popescu	total gold production, 171,300 tonnes (gmfs)	[06:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 125 @ 0.0178 = 2.225 BTC [-]	[06:27]
mircea_popescu	(about 8 times as much)	[06:27]
ThickAsThieves	[23:18] http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/teeth/ <<< glad you got my "instant payment system" line in there, i think it went over everyone's head... or just wasnt funny	[06:28]
Chaaaang-Noi	8 is not really close to 100 :/	[06:28]
mircea_popescu	Chaaaang-Noi except the silver production is for 2010	[06:28]
mircea_popescu	and the gold production is since 5000 bc.	[06:28]
Chaaaang-Noi	yeah they were mining tons and tons of shit 5000 years ago!	[06:28]
mircea_popescu	yes, actually.	[06:29]
Chaaaang-Noi	the current mining rate is about 8 to 1	[06:29]
mircea_popescu	anyway, take care all!	[06:29]
Chaaaang-Noi	you are very wrong on this issue, but good night	[06:29]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[18:58]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading, I heard.	[18:58]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue May 14 16:38:49 2013	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01724 = 0.2586 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01723801 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 33 @ 0.01722 = 0.5683 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 27 @ 0.0171 = 0.4617 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01686 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 300 @ 0.01667 = 5.001 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.016596 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01650011 = 1.65 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 72 @ 0.0165001 = 1.188 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01701 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.017 = 0.17 BTC [-]	[18:58]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[18:58]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 114.55000, Best ask: 114.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 114.90000, 24 hour volume: 43640.34106331, 24 hour low: 111.05001, 24 hour high: 116.47659, 24 hour vwap: 114.23695	[18:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.01696 = 0.5597 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [+]	[18:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01693 = 0.8465 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01692 BTC [-]	[18:58]
KRS-1	there are better places to live than serbia	[18:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.01692 = 0.2707 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01691 = 0.4228 BTC [-]	[18:59]
mircea_popescu	actually belgrade wasn't bad at all.	[18:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0169 = 0.1014 BTC [-]	[19:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.0169 = 0.3042 BTC [-]	[19:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01682 BTC [-]	[19:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0168 = 0.168 BTC [-]	[19:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0168 BTC [-]	[19:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0165 = 0.4125 BTC [-]	[19:04]
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jurov	poland? srsly?	[19:09]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4201 BTC [+]	[19:11]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76 BTC [-]	[19:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4200008 = 2.1 BTC [-]	[19:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.2 = 2 BTC [+]	[19:16]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]	[19:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0178 = 0.356 BTC [+]	[19:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0178 = 0.0534 BTC [+]	[19:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.0171 = 0.5643 BTC [+]	[19:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.478 BTC [-]	[19:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.479 = 0.958 BTC [+]	[19:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01756863 BTC [-]	[19:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0178 = 0.0356 BTC [+]	[19:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.01799 = 0.5397 BTC [+]	[19:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.0179 = 0.6265 BTC [-]	[19:24]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0179 = 0.0537 BTC [-]	[19:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [-]	[19:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0179 = 0.0537 BTC [-]	[19:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0179 = 0.2685 BTC [-]	[19:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0179 = 0.0895 BTC [-]	[19:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.01656 = 0.0662 BTC [-]	[19:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0169 = 0.2535 BTC [+]	[19:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01756863 BTC [-]	[19:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0175 BTC [-]	[19:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7401 BTC [-]	[19:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.76 = 7.04 BTC [+]	[19:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01756863 BTC [+]	[19:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01785 = 0.0536 BTC [+]	[19:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.776999 = 26.655 BTC [+]	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	"I check MPex for my information because ya'll have a fee to get in.	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	People who have that much BTC know what they're doing because they've been	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	there from the beginning. So I figure those trades are the smartest ones	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	to follow. Essentially...thanks for providing a more efficient source of	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	info thats not distorted by the millions of fuckwads posting about	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	whatever coin of the week they've created or people with scammer tags	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	accusing other people, etc. Its like a fucking kindergarten classroom in	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	here sometimes"	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	i get lovemail.	[19:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7768 BTC [-]	[19:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.479 = 1.437 BTC [+]	[19:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7769 BTC [+]	[19:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [+]	[19:39]
ThickAsThieves	truffles likes to focus on the important stuff	[19:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0171 = 0.0684 BTC [+]	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	I unlocked the thread to tell you that I am fine, and this is happening in accordance with orders (as understood by me).	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	I am currently detained in a psychiatric institution in Helsinki, because I need rest. My physical well-being is taken care of.	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	whoa.	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	jurov you seen that ?	[19:40]
ThickAsThieves	mp, did you see the sdice news?	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves yes.	[19:41]
ThickAsThieves	k	[19:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 96 @ 0.0171 = 1.6416 BTC [+]	[19:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066968 = 2.8937 BTC [+]	[19:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9614 @ 0.00067001 = 6.4415 BTC [+]	[19:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 90 @ 0.01782 = 1.6038 BTC [-]	[19:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01782 = 0.0535 BTC [-]	[19:45]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 4 @ 0.0007 = 0.0028 BTC [-]	[19:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00069 BTC [-]	[19:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.017 = 0.51 BTC [-]	[19:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 750 @ 0.00068 = 0.51 BTC [-]	[19:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.00067 = 0.067 BTC [-]	[19:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 73 @ 0.00066 = 0.0482 BTC [-]	[19:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 4 @ 0.00066 = 0.0026 BTC [-]	[19:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 225 @ 0.00065 = 0.1463 BTC [-]	[19:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 102 @ 0.0171 = 1.7442 BTC [+]	[19:49]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0171 BTC [+]	[20:00]
deadweasel	who is?	[20:04]
deadweasel	who's in the looney bin?	[20:04]
deadweasel	ahahhaha, finally.	[20:04]
deadweasel	culture and conditioning make people fucking insane	[20:05]
deadweasel	and then they impound themselves to escape the reality of their mistakes.	[20:05]
deadweasel	it's very interesting. i love it.	[20:06]
deadweasel	i hope he learns to calm down.	[20:07]
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mircea_popescu	deadweasel tbh, that's troll signature.	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	the account is closed. the person behind it gets the laurels.	[20:08]
jborkl	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.5220 < this is why I stopped reading BTC talk	[20:09]
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jborkl	the last two,	[20:10]
jborkl	bundling AM chips in cell phones so Africans can mine on the go	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	lolok	[20:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.769 BTC [-]	[20:12]
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keyboardwarrior	Hi guys	[20:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [+]	[20:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [+]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7768 BTC [+]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7769 BTC [+]	[20:13]
keyboardwarrior	is it normal the bitfinex prices stay static for like , say , 30 minutes	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	keyboardwarrior bitfinex is a scam.	[20:13]
ThickAsThieves	lolumia	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	anything is normal as long as you lose your btc.	[20:14]
keyboardwarrior	aw snap	[20:14]
keyboardwarrior	just open a position	[20:14]
keyboardwarrior	could you tell me why is it scam	[20:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0025 = 2.5 BTC [+]	[20:14]
keyboardwarrior	at least my loss is only 0.15 USD at the moment	[20:14]
keyboardwarrior	any plataform i could start on with say , 5 usd	[20:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.017 = 0.34 BTC [-]	[20:17]
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ThickAsThieves	to each is own i barely even have a cellphone	[20:17]
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ThickAsThieves	nexus s that i never charge	[20:18]
ThickAsThieves	wife has a note 2 which is pretty dope	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	kybwarrior basically they stole the bitcoinica codebase	[20:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 264 @ 0.0171 = 4.5144 BTC [+]	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	which was written in ruby and which was buggy as hell	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	and they're running it from their garage.	[20:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 44 @ 0.017195 = 0.7566 BTC [+]	[20:19]
kybwarrior	and it seems something is broken	[20:20]
kybwarrior	prices wont move	[20:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.017195 BTC [+]	[20:20]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140484.0	[20:20]
mircea_popescu	read that anyway.	[20:20]
Namworld	S.DICE price holding well considering the events	[20:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 66 @ 0.017195 = 1.1349 BTC [+]	[20:22]
kybwarrior	if i only had one BTC	[20:22]
kybwarrior	to use the coinbr gate to MPEX	[20:23]
Namworld	coinbr requires a whole BTC?	[20:24]
mircea_popescu	iirc it was a %	[20:25]
mircea_popescu	Namworld im not sure what the events are.	[20:25]
mircea_popescu	i mean... website ? who cares ?	[20:25]
Namworld	Yeah. It's still going to hurt SDice's business tho	[20:25]
kybwarrior	oh its free	[20:26]
kybwarrior	last time i checked it wasnt	[20:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01776999 = 0.1777 BTC [+]	[20:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01777 = 0.0533 BTC [+]	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	Namworld maybe.	[20:27]
kybwarrior	oh it moved	[20:27]
kybwarrior	against me	[20:27]
kybwarrior	i dont get why	[20:28]
kybwarrior	as on clarkmoody price is rising	[20:28]
ThickAsThieves	scamz	[20:28]
Namworld	Well I'd need to know how many US SD players use proxy/Tor to play and how many just plainly access.	[20:28]
Namworld	But yeah	[20:28]
Namworld	Could scare new customers if they see some warning upon arriving on the website.	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	Namworld by the same reasoning silkroad is dead.	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	as it doesnm't have a website.	[20:29]
Namworld	Old players would probably just keep betting	[20:29]
Namworld	SR doesn't have a warning message. It's just hidden well.	[20:30]
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mircea_popescu	i'm just saying, websites.	[20:31]
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Namworld	Yeah, yeah	[20:33]
Namworld	According to the 1.9% house edge, it went up 3.5 x 200 BTC increments	[20:34]
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Namworld	dooglus' pic here http://i.imgur.com/RvpHgmA.png	[20:34]
Namworld	So 700 BTC expected profit	[20:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7768 BTC [-]	[20:36]
Namworld	;;calc 700/0.019	[20:36]
gribble	36842.1052632	[20:36]
Namworld	~36842 BTC in bets expected	[20:36]
Namworld	to have occured then	[20:36]
Namworld	Arf, I need to suggest dooglus to add betting volume since the beggining of the month	[20:37]
benkay	sdice ain't dead	[20:37]
benkay	it's got this great market dominance	[20:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00293 BTC [+]	[20:37]
benkay	it seems to not be receiving a lot of love from its nominal maintainer though	[20:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.002939 = 0.0294 BTC [+]	[20:38]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfUYuIVbFg0	[20:38]
Namworld	;;calc 36842/1200	[20:38]
gribble	30.7016666667	[20:38]
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benkay	dem blooz.	[20:38]
Namworld	Well Coinroll has about 1/30th of SatoshiDice's betting volume for the same period.	[20:39]
Namworld	I guess that's decent	[20:39]
benkay	bitzino has lots of love for itself	[20:40]
Namworld	I hear so. Different game tho	[20:41]
Namworld	Coinroll is pretty much like SD	[20:41]
jborkl	Wtf, over 10,000 unconfirmed	[20:42]
Namworld	Didn't expect such market share	[20:42]
benkay	is the play model really relevant to whether a given casino has their shit together?	[20:42]
Namworld	For something that litterally just started	[20:42]
jborkl	mircea-popescu	[20:42]
jborkl	mircea_popescu	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	yes ?	[20:42]
jborkl	you see the unconfired transactions	[20:43]
jborkl	new record	[20:43]
jborkl	DDOS of the network with .00000025	[20:44]
Namworld	0.00000025 * 200000 = 0.05 BTC cost to attack...	[20:46]
Namworld	With 200 000 transactions with such dust	[20:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [+]	[20:46]
Namworld	At regular fee of 0.0005	[20:46]
Namworld	Would cost 100 BTC to create 200 000 transactions	[20:47]
jborkl	well, there are over 11,000 pernding	[20:47]
jborkl	pending	[20:47]
Namworld	Yeah	[20:47]
Namworld	Could be more	[20:47]
jborkl	probably is	[20:47]
Namworld	What's the current blocksize limit?	[20:48]
jborkl	1mb I think - not 100 sure	[20:48]
jborkl	most are at 512 , pretty sure	[20:48]
Namworld	This is retarted...	[20:49]
Namworld	So many transactions	[20:49]
Namworld	Miners should just ignore 0 fees transactions	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	jborkl yeah	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	1mb is the absolute limit	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	blocks are about 410 k avg	[20:50]
Namworld	The spam stopped	[20:51]
jborkl	I think it just crashed everything imo	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	jborkl the interesting thing is	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	i can get my payments through no problem, in spite of 10k pending	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	i think either the miners are prioritizing or there's something else afoot	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	(node connectivity issue ? i dunno ianae)	[20:52]
jborkl	it is interesting, depends on who is relaying and where the transactions are getting stuck at	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	in fact i've looked, and i've not had a payment waited in >3 months	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	everything next block	[20:53]
jborkl	It would almost be wise, for MPEX members that need to pay each other to use PUSH more often. Or new people need to sign up to PUSH with a high degree of speed and anonymity	[20:54]
Namworld	miners prioritize transactions with fees over feeless transactions	[20:54]
Namworld	If you're not a cheapskate and pay the damn 5 cent fee...	[20:55]
Namworld	You're ok	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	jborkl what, and ruin ripple ?!	[20:55]
jcpham	so whats happening tot he blockchain	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	with google, horowitz-andersen & co ?	[20:55]
jborkl	LOL, yeah ripple is trying to be WOT	[20:56]
jborkl	with a bunch of retards giving micro loans to each other	[20:56]
kakobrekla	i have been doing larger txes for a while now, no fee and nothing waits. and not that i dont want to pay fee, its just default client doesnt say it needs it.	[20:56]
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kakobrekla	its about bitcoin days destroyed i think	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	that counts too	[20:57]
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mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/450/bitfurys-asic-will-work-with-power-1/	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	2:3 by now	[20:57]
Namworld	yeah, size counts too	[20:57]
jborkl	LOL, blockchains windows xp pro crashed	[20:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01784999 = 1.785 BTC [+]	[20:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7769 BTC [+]	[20:59]
Namworld	blockchain.info: hosted on this HP laptop right here with blazing fast 128 kbit/s DSL	[21:00]
ThickAsThieves	methinks theyre trolling	[21:00]
Namworld	Who's bitfury...	[21:00]
mircea_popescu	Namworld was some guy with a large fpga rig last year	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	last i heard of them	[21:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 9 @ 0.002939 = 0.0265 BTC [+]	[21:01]
ThickAsThieves	the world leader in pretending to be the world leader in ascis	[21:01]
ThickAsThieves	havent you heard?	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[21:01]
Namworld	...	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves what fascinates me is this : guy comes out of blue skies plunks down 100 btc on yes.	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	ok, tghat i can see. maybe he's trolling. m,aybe he's insane. maybe he has the chips. he'd know which, it's hios business	[21:01]
ThickAsThieves	i know, you are very excited about this	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	so 50 btc are bet against. that i can also understand	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	nobody went broke betting against asic delivery yet.	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	BUT!!!! there's like 25 btc aka 5k usd riding on the yes from third parties.	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	this i don't get. i tried.	[21:02]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	i mean wtf, they can't have insider information	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	there's 5k dollah wagered on what, the website ?	[21:02]
ThickAsThieves	the only proven way to be safe with asic biz is to wait til delivery	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	what judgement went into that i wish to know	[21:02]
ThickAsThieves	otherwise you are just gambling	[21:02]
ThickAsThieves	many more losers than winners	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	basically excluding the owner, that bet breaks 2:1 against	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck what odds are these.	[21:03]
Namworld	Is that a pun on bitfinex's statement?	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	Namworld that ?	[21:04]
Namworld	"nobody went broke betting against asic delivery yet."	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	um	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	not afaik.	[21:04]
Namworld	Bitfinex has right under the logo this funny statement	[21:04]
Namworld	"Nobody went broke taking profits"	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	what srlky ? heh.	[21:04]
jcpham	just wait until ripples are a buck each	[21:04]
ThickAsThieves	thats not a logo	[21:04]
ThickAsThieves	its a big font	[21:04]
Namworld	It's a bad logo...	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	listen. "Nobody went broke taking profits" is like saying "the rain in spain stays mostly on the plain"	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	no dinky obscure fringe scam invented this.	[21:05]
Namworld	It's funny cause it's false	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[21:05]
ThickAsThieves	mpex needs a logo	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	http://www.stockhouse.com/bullboards/messagedetail.aspx?s=SGF&t=list&m=9285714&l=0&pd=1&r=0	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	there, 2005	[21:05]
deadweasel	technically if all you do is take profits, it would be impossible to go broke. in a general way.	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel inflation.	[21:06]
deadweasel	but i agree with you in spirit	[21:06]
deadweasel	oh ya	[21:06]
deadweasel	inflation	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	;)	[21:06]
deadweasel	shit	[21:06]
deadweasel	well, still wouldn't be broke, but worthless, yes.	[21:06]
ThickAsThieves	:/	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	not to go into the complex points of taxation.	[21:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00297 BTC [+]	[21:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 14 @ 0.002978 = 0.0417 BTC [+]	[21:07]
ThickAsThieves	i love how people feel the need to wait for 6 confs when making deals with me	[21:08]
ThickAsThieves	am i that scary	[21:08]
ThickAsThieves	i wouldnt know how to doublespend on 0 confs	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	just new and into high risk prop trades.	[21:08]
ThickAsThieves	wtf	[21:10]
ThickAsThieves	someone is trying to double spend on me	[21:10]
ThickAsThieves	great	[21:10]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 57 @ 0.017273 = 0.9846 BTC [+]	[21:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.776 BTC [-]	[21:12]
deadweasel	ya taxes, dammit.	[21:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76119 BTC [-]	[21:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76 BTC [-]	[21:13]
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Scrat	TAT: nop, b.i is buggy atm	[21:13]
Scrat	shows every TX as a double spend	[21:13]
ThickAsThieves	oh	[21:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.017273 = 0.0345 BTC [+]	[21:14]
ThickAsThieves	Scrat yyouz just tryin git me	[21:14]
Scrat	git er	[21:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [+]	[21:15]
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ThickAsThieves	hey putting asics in phones was my idea https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg2171426#msg2171426	[21:16]
ThickAsThieves	wtf	[21:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 120 @ 0.00285 = 0.342 BTC [-]	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01874999 = 1.875 BTC [+]	[21:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.23 BTC [-]	[21:18]
Namworld	When's the IPO, Scrat? =P	[21:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.76 = 3.52 BTC [-]	[21:19]
Namworld	By the way... if anyone wants to sell S.DICE shares but finds there's a lack of volume to sell them, PM me.	[21:19]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01874999 = 0.1125 BTC [+]	[21:20]
Namworld	I might buy 10-30k	[21:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.769 BTC [+]	[21:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.769 BTC [+]	[21:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.775 = 3.55 BTC [+]	[21:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.775 = 8.875 BTC [+]	[21:22]
toffoo	what is the all-time low on s.dice?	[21:23]
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Namworld	~0.0008 I think	[21:23]
Namworld	1/4th of IPO	[21:24]
toffoo	wow .. did it hit that in this recent dump or was that from earlier?	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	toffoo there was a dump back in january i think ?	[21:24]
Namworld	Much earlier	[21:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.017273 = 0.4491 BTC [+]	[21:24]
toffoo	ok gotcha, thanks	[21:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.017275 = 1.0365 BTC [+]	[21:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.017278 = 1.3822 BTC [+]	[21:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [+]	[21:25]
ThickAsThieves	http://gawker.com/google-wallet-will-soon-allow-you-to-send-money-as-a-g-507104861	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	depr	[21:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 66 @ 0.01728 = 1.1405 BTC [+]	[21:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.48 = 3.84 BTC [+]	[21:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.017 = 0.034 BTC [-]	[21:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [+]	[21:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.0006685 = 1.8718 BTC [-]	[21:30]
Scrat	Namworld: soon(tm)	[21:31]
Uglux	like wave(tm)	[21:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.017278 = 0.5875 BTC [-]	[21:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.775 = 8.875 BTC [+]	[21:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0172 = 0.0688 BTC [-]	[21:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0035 BTC [-]	[21:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.016801 = 0.1176 BTC [-]	[21:35]
leotreasure	i lost message from scrollback	[21:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.016801 BTC [-]	[21:38]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.773999 BTC [-]	[21:40]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.774 BTC [+]	[21:43]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.773999 BTC [-]	[21:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.774 = 7.096 BTC [+]	[21:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.774 = 5.322 BTC [+]	[21:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [+]	[21:53]
davout	greetings	[21:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.0172 = 0.2408 BTC [+]	[21:54]
deadweasel	howdy o/	[21:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.01728 = 0.1555 BTC [+]	[21:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.01728 = 0.5357 BTC [+]	[21:54]
ThickAsThieves	havent we had enough excitement?	[21:55]
ThickAsThieves	it's like every week we have fireworks	[21:56]
davout	bitcoin is backed by drama	[21:56]
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ThickAsThieves	gox seizure, sdice drama	[21:57]
ThickAsThieves	AM mega div	[21:57]
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davout	so much drama over nothing with satoshidice	[21:57]
ThickAsThieves	chaang nois new bicycle	[21:57]
ThickAsThieves	so exciting	[21:57]
davout	some big shareholder should just clone the SD website and make it available in the US	[21:58]
davout	problem solved. boom.	[21:58]
ThickAsThieves	then that person has same liability obv	[21:58]
ThickAsThieves	boom	[21:58]
davout	pay for a domain name in btc, host on heroku, anonymous website, boom.	[21:59]
ThickAsThieves	i'll probably end up eating my words, but at the moment i have no problem saying that i think sdice is dead in the water	[21:59]
ThickAsThieves	ship has sailed	[21:59]
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davout	what makes you think that it won't make it even more attractive ?	[22:04]
davout	to US customers	[22:04]
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davout	it's like... forbidden	[22:04]
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ThickAsThieves	simple	[22:06]
ThickAsThieves	it's been faltering for months	[22:06]
ThickAsThieves	and has received no visible or "tangible" attention	[22:06]
ThickAsThieves	no new features	[22:06]
ThickAsThieves	no new anything	[22:06]
ThickAsThieves	site mostly performed shitty anyway	[22:06]
ThickAsThieves	so any amount of obfuscating it's accessibility	[22:06]
ThickAsThieves	is just another nail in the coffin	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	this isn't tv tho.	[22:07]
ThickAsThieves	clarify	[22:07]
ThickAsThieves	you mean the vidible part?	[22:07]
ThickAsThieves	s	[22:07]
jcpham	people can watch waht they want	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	there's this very american worshipping of a very particular thing	[22:07]
davout	hipsters care about features, investors car about dividends	[22:08]
ThickAsThieves	people dont seek out tv shows because they are harder to watch	[22:08]
davout	:-)	[22:08]
jcpham	streisand	[22:08]
ThickAsThieves	i care about noth	[22:08]
ThickAsThieves	bnoth	[22:08]
ThickAsThieves	both!	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:08]
*	ThickAsThieves is a hipster investor. Deal with it.	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	but srsly, most things worth it in this life aren't what's being hyped	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	most hyped things aren't worth the time of day	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	most "famous" people are poor.	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	most rich people you've never heard of	[22:09]
ThickAsThieves	but your are transferring the argument	[22:09]
davout	you can't deal-with-it me	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	most popular jobs are dead. most lucrative jobs are "boring"	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	etc	[22:09]
davout	i had the sunglasses on my forum avatar first	[22:09]
ThickAsThieves	my point isnt that hype is a fundamental	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	it isn't.	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	also, the "consumer" market is unfundamental.	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	and so on	[22:09]
ThickAsThieves	it's that marketing, communication, and development are important	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	not as commonly understood.	[22:09]
davout	i think sd markets itself for free on the frontpage of blockchain.info	[22:10]
ThickAsThieves	big deal	[22:10]
ThickAsThieves	it's nice n all	[22:10]
ThickAsThieves	and certainly a win	[22:10]
jcpham	what davout said	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	and im not transferring the argument, i'm just not particularly interested in arguiubng about s.dice per se, i think the general point is more interesting	[22:10]
ThickAsThieves	but you can't just stop	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	yes you can. this website fetish...	[22:10]
ThickAsThieves	my issue is not just with sdice	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	websites are for blogs.	[22:10]
jcpham	well i think s.dice is dead and SD will be fine	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	there's no good reason random, service x should be a website.	[22:11]
davout	ThickAsThieves: like I said, someone who has a stake in this will put up a US accessible clone of the SD website	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	davout i'd take that as a good proxy for how valuable a website is for sdice	[22:11]
ThickAsThieves	you might not WANT marketing to matter or have a suitable rationale for it within yourself	[22:11]
ThickAsThieves	but it proves itself when used	[22:11]
ThickAsThieves	davout	[22:11]
ThickAsThieves	my issue is much more than the website to US problem	[22:12]
davout	howso	[22:12]
davout	so what is it ?	[22:12]
ThickAsThieves	it's lack of development	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	this attitude is what leads to creeping featuritis and general cruft.	[22:12]
davout	mircea_popescu: word	[22:12]
ThickAsThieves	so nothing should ever be developed past it's initial state?	[22:13]
ThickAsThieves	its*	[22:13]
benkay	has anyone bothered to plot relative market share of the btc gambling space?	[22:13]
jcpham	would you like for satoshidice to add more features and a whole frontend/backend server architecture?	[22:13]
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benkay	we could actually talk about execution instead of features then	[22:13]
jcpham	allow players to create "accounts"?	[22:13]
davout	ThickAsThieves: does it need to ?	[22:13]
jcpham	not happenin	[22:13]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves past uits mature state.	[22:13]
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mircea_popescu	for example : i am now eating a praline	[22:13]
ThickAsThieves	nothing needs to do anything	[22:13]
ThickAsThieves	but we invest to make money right?	[22:13]
mircea_popescu	this particular piece of confectionery has been unchanged since three centuries ago	[22:13]
mircea_popescu	i am persuaded louis ate the exact same thing.	[22:14]
ThickAsThieves	and investors expect a business to maintain and moreover gain revenue right?	[22:14]
mircea_popescu	yes, pralines are dead to the us market, in the sense that the uninformed poor there don't get any.	[22:14]
ThickAsThieves	why use analogies when we already have a working example	[22:14]
ThickAsThieves	i know	[22:15]
mircea_popescu	in my mind investors are making a revenue from their holding	[22:15]
davout	truffles: that's called having fun :-)	[22:15]
ThickAsThieves	i simply expect action	[22:15]
ThickAsThieves	what's next	[22:15]
ThickAsThieves	etc	[22:15]
mircea_popescu	yeah but i don't think that's particularly relevant.	[22:15]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	so you wish to be entertained by your portofolio	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	i do not.	[22:16]
ThickAsThieves	no	[22:16]
davout	ThickAsThieves: buddhism teaches us that "not doing" is already "doing" if you see what I mean	[22:16]
ThickAsThieves	i wish for it to grow	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves this growth thing... it often is illusory.	[22:16]
ThickAsThieves	sure	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	i mean... enron grew.	[22:16]
benkay	whatever	[22:16]
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benkay	growth can happen	[22:17]
ThickAsThieves	buddhism is like nihilism	[22:17]
davout	mircea_popescu: these suction pumps do not work	[22:17]
benkay	sometimes it's illusory	[22:17]
jcpham	the U.S. has grown	[22:17]
ThickAsThieves	zero impact	[22:17]
davout	ThickAsThieves: yes and no	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	jcpham yeah, i love the sprawl too.	[22:17]
ThickAsThieves	I enjoy life because of all the things I can DO	[22:17]
ThickAsThieves	not all the things I can watch be as they are	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	anyway. point being : the hammer has not grown. it is what it is.	[22:17]
ThickAsThieves	i want to tinker, explore, develop, evolve	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	toilet paper is basically... toilet paper.	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	that's what it is.	[22:18]
davout	ThickAsThieves: watching things as they are is already doing something, which can bring great enjoyment	[22:18]
ThickAsThieves	which extends to me wanting this for all things	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves that's fine but not all things are that.	[22:18]
davout	ThickAsThieves: it's not mutually exclusive	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	s.dice is a mature company dominating its niche	[22:18]
ThickAsThieves	but profit is	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	it will behave accordingly. you want excitement, chase the vircurex ipos or w/e	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	different models.	[22:18]
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ThickAsThieves	i want evolution	[22:18]
ThickAsThieves	not excitement	[22:19]
ThickAsThieves	progression	[22:19]
davout	let's talk about evolution then	[22:19]
davout	what is this NAT.ROUTERS thing?	[22:19]
ThickAsThieves	a joke	[22:19]
ThickAsThieves	like sdice	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	lol. dude srlsy.	[22:19]
ThickAsThieves	i just find it insulting	[22:19]
davout	ThickAsThieves: what is it that pokes your ego ? :p	[22:20]
ThickAsThieves	i tried to explain this	[22:20]
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ThickAsThieves	sdice was a spark	[22:20]
ThickAsThieves	but never a fire	[22:21]
ThickAsThieves	it still can be i guess	[22:21]
ThickAsThieves	but no signs of warmth	[22:21]
davout	yeah, who knows	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	i fail to follow this logic.	[22:22]
ThickAsThieves	i want to put my money to work	[22:22]
davout	ThickAsThieves: you expect change when some other folks don't see the need for it	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	sdice always was and still is the majority of rthe blockchain	[22:22]
ThickAsThieves	not bury it in the dirt	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	if this is a spark but not a fire then what can io tell you	[22:22]
ThickAsThieves	erik has expressed he has stuff brewing repeatedly	[22:22]
ThickAsThieves	yet soup is not served	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves it's barely a one year old company.	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	most companies fail to file at all after their first year	[22:23]
ThickAsThieves	it take 1 year to communicate plans with investors?	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	of the 5%ish that do, 90+% file a loss.	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	plans are no investors' busines.	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	you want to be involved in business planning, start one.	[22:24]
benkay	i like that attitude, that plans are not investors business.	[22:24]
ThickAsThieves	so would you argue that with all that is known to the public,	[22:24]
ThickAsThieves	sdice is a better investment than most?	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	you're buying into someone else's specifically so as not to have to deal with that.	[22:24]
benkay	it's not a terribly common perspective...	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves as far as i can see, other than mpoe (which may well be oversold), sdice is the only investment available atm.	[22:24]
ThickAsThieves	plans are not investors business	[22:24]
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mircea_popescu	bitbet is small. asicminer doesn't practically exist. it's take it or leave it.	[22:25]
ThickAsThieves	please	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	hey.	[22:25]
ThickAsThieves	you keep painting AM as a blip	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	it is.	[22:25]
inhies	lols	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	no contract, no business. sorry but it's what it is.	[22:25]
inhies	if its not on mpex it isnt real	[22:25]
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mircea_popescu	you don't have to agree, but you won't change this whether you agree or you don't.	[22:25]
ThickAsThieves	what good has sdice's contract done anyone?	[22:26]
ThickAsThieves	other than the seed investors	[22:26]
benkay	appearance of legitimacy	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	it can be read by anyone.	[22:26]
benkay	to the extent that exists in this space.	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	it clearly delineates what anyone can reasonably expect. etc.	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	the stuff contracts normally do.	[22:26]
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ThickAsThieves	but it doesnt protect investors from a number of things that could easily circumvent the contract into worthlessness	[22:27]
benkay	such as?	[22:27]
ThickAsThieves	erik = the whale	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	no contract protects the investors or any parties against the very contract being breached.	[22:27]
ThickAsThieves	mp deciding to interpret any line creatively	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	contracts (like any other thing in the world) work by working not by being broken	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	a boat doesn't take you across the sea by being sunk	[22:27]
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ThickAsThieves	so you want to say contracts are the real deal, but dont actually protect you	[22:28]
benkay	here comes the gpg	[22:28]
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ThickAsThieves	so whats the difference	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves basically where you're coming from is this : "i'm here in the land of the thieves, better pack as much and run while i still have my legs"	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	this may be informed by experience, heck, it may even be the correct stance in btc.	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	nevertheless, i won't have any of it, it's not what i'm building nor what i stand for.	[22:29]
ThickAsThieves	no	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	the only way this divide will be healed is through time. so i'm not in any rush for anything to happen.	[22:29]
ThickAsThieves	it is you that is making the assumption that AM is the thief	[22:29]
ThickAsThieves	in waiting	[22:29]
ThickAsThieves	no I	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	not quite.	[22:29]
ThickAsThieves	as I see it, both sdice and AM could fuck me over any number of ways	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	yes. this is the thing : at this point anything "could" happen	[22:30]
ThickAsThieves	yet Friedcat has demonstrated enormous achievements	[22:30]
ThickAsThieves	and erik has demonstrated a joker avatar	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	ten years down the road things will have played out as i said they will, and they could no longer play any number of ways.	[22:30]
ThickAsThieves	investing in people is safer to me	[22:31]
ThickAsThieves	than investing in an mpex contracyt	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	so that's fine.	[22:31]
ThickAsThieves	if erik were demonstrating intitiative	[22:31]
ThickAsThieves	or any sort of business prowess	[22:31]
ThickAsThieves	i might think differently	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	the great advantage of btc is that it'sd a perfectly even ideal field on which everyone's understanding can be tested	[22:32]
mod6	...	[22:32]
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ThickAsThieves	and while i dont think of everyone as thieves in waiting	[22:32]
ThickAsThieves	i do think my positions need to be temporal	[22:32]
ThickAsThieves	and agile	[22:32]
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ThickAsThieves	due to the pitfalls that litter btc business	[22:33]
ThickAsThieves	I'm not saying I wanna make babies with Friedcat	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	so basically not X but X.	[22:33]
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ThickAsThieves	I'm saying the actual environment changes	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	right, let's not get anchored in the words.	[22:34]
ThickAsThieves	so some jumping around is profitable	[22:34]
mircea_popescu	the idea is that you perceive this medium as dangerous and i aim to make it safe.	[22:34]
davout	"benkay: here comes the gpg" << LOL	[22:34]
mircea_popescu	the idea is for btc to be a safer place than anywhere else, not some mythical land you raid now and again	[22:34]
ThickAsThieves	and sdice investors are safely losing money each week	[22:34]
mircea_popescu	how exactly are they losing money ?	[22:34]
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ThickAsThieves	depends on how much you value divs vs share value vs future potential	[22:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.774999 BTC [+]	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	depends if you're a daytrader marking to market on a daily basis.	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	as far as i know there's a total of three people actually qualified to be doing this.	[22:36]
ThickAsThieves	whom?	[22:36]
mircea_popescu	ya well.	[22:36]
davout	mircea_popescu: how's the hiring ladybytes on your traders team coming along?	[22:37]
ThickAsThieves	maybe I am projecting unnecessary expectations on sdice	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	lol she's skulking	[22:37]
ThickAsThieves	so be it	[22:38]
mod6	ThickAsThieves: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gpg-contracts/	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves look, everyone does his own thinking, has his own expectations...	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	the market is a voting machine doubling as a weighing machine	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	except we don't yet have the long term for the later, so.	[22:38]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.01851995 = 0.7408 BTC [+]	[22:39]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[22:39]
ThickAsThieves	no meat enters this sanctum	[22:39]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[22:39]
benkay	skulking or sulking?	[22:39]
ThickAsThieves	same thing?	[22:40]
benkay	nope.	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	not same thing.	[22:40]
benkay	nope nope nope.	[22:40]
benkay	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14	[22:41]
ThickAsThieves	ah	[22:41]
ThickAsThieves	didnt realize the word meant that	[22:41]
ThickAsThieves	pretty cool actually	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	til eh.	[22:42]
ThickAsThieves	i need to decompress now	[22:42]
ThickAsThieves	you guys...	[22:42]
benkay	wat	[22:43]
ThickAsThieves	it's like drinking with philosophers	[22:43]
ThickAsThieves	a total chore	[22:43]
benkay	consider this perspective	[22:44]
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benkay	all business have always been valued in ever-decreasingly valuable fiat currency	[22:44]
benkay	you for like a few hundred years or something	[22:44]
dub	;;stats	[22:44]
gribble	I have 19 registered users with 24 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.	[22:44]
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gribble	Current Blocks: 236495 \| Current Difficulty: 1.1187257461360792E7 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 237887 \| Next Difficulty In: 1392 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 17 hours, 37 minutes, and 20 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 12063933.6679 \| Estimated Percent Change: 7.83638	[22:44]
mircea_popescu	lmao the things he complains about	[22:44]
mircea_popescu	at least you don't have 45k in college debt for the priviledge ThickAsThieves	[22:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.0006685 = 6.9524 BTC [-]	[22:45]
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ThickAsThieves	truffles, you'd be surprised	[22:45]
benkay	westerners always want their capital to increase	[22:45]
benkay	it's a lie	[22:45]
davout	is it just me or is forbes the landfill of internet journalism ? http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/05/16/it-could-be-the-bureaucrats-that-kill-bitcoin/	[22:45]
benkay	they really just want their capital to not decrease	[22:45]
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ThickAsThieves	i am trying to make money	[22:46]
ThickAsThieves	like most of us i assume	[22:46]
benkay	yeah	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	davout just like any other venue.	[22:46]
benkay	without delivering value tho	[22:46]
ThickAsThieves	i deliver value	[22:46]
benkay	just by moving assets around, getting into and out of positions etc	[22:46]
ThickAsThieves	i provide a number of services	[22:46]
benkay	not to s.dice :)	[22:46]
ThickAsThieves	not to sdice	[22:46]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[22:46]
benkay	if you don't deliver value to a company, don't expect them to deliver returns to your pocket	[22:47]
benkay	maybe your stake won't disappear in inflation	[22:47]
benkay	but don't expect to make out like a gangster	[22:47]
benkay	that happens by luck.	[22:47]
ThickAsThieves	your argument seems to result in	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	well, this is the classical smaller rocks argument	[22:47]
ThickAsThieves	dont invest in companies	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	if he	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	's moving stuff back and forth he's providing liquidity which is still a service.	[22:47]
benkay	sure	[22:48]
benkay	there's some value	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	right.	[22:48]
benkay	not dismissing the role of traders and liquidity providers entirely	[22:48]
ThickAsThieves	i also help large shareholders unload their positions, small shareholders buy small stakes	[22:48]
benkay	i'm not saying don't invest	[22:48]
benkay	that's how you prevent the capital you've acquired from disappearing in inflation	[22:48]
davout	mircea_popescu: moving stuff around provides liquidity to someone but eats liquidity somewhere else, ends up neutral	[22:48]
ThickAsThieves	so i save time for some as well	[22:48]
benkay	but that shit won't make you rich.	[22:48]
davout	hmm, i guess taking liquidity is also providing liquidity at the same time	[22:49]
davout	nvm	[22:49]
ThickAsThieves	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg2172182#msg2172182 << mp theyre about to steal your heated asic floor tiles idea too!	[22:49]
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ThickAsThieves	i also provide information	[22:50]
benkay	monetize that, man	[22:50]
ThickAsThieves	and soon I will be sponsoring other people's efforts as well	[22:50]
ThickAsThieves	that are providing services	[22:50]
ThickAsThieves	impact is important to me	[22:51]
benkay	that sounds like value	[22:51]
benkay	unlike buying into ipos	[22:51]
benkay	now if you take those things to ipo, you too can make out like a bandit	[22:51]
ThickAsThieves	and you'd be surprised the money that can be made moving stones around	[22:51]
ThickAsThieves	also likely surprised at the impact good marketing can have on exposing your services	[22:52]
ThickAsThieves	but i digress	[22:52]
ThickAsThieves	i guess	[22:52]
benkay	oh no i agree w/r/t marketing	[22:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0184 = 0.092 BTC [-]	[22:53]
benkay	and i'm not surprised that it's possible to make money shuffling things around	[22:53]
benkay	see it erryday	[22:53]
ThickAsThieves	most here seem to think marketing is purely about spin	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	the funny thing is on one hand i told everyhone when they were here to be defensive players	[22:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.774999 = 3.55 BTC [+]	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	and now you're getting all excited cause erik is playing a lot of defense	[22:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.774999 = 14.2 BTC [+]	[22:53]
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ThickAsThieves	not true mp	[22:53]
ThickAsThieves	my complaints pre-date this US website stuff	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	several times over	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	ok but consider : bfl did a lot of marketing	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	mtgox did a lot of marketing	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	well	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	starting to see a lot of pattern ?	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	you have to deliver as well	[22:54]
benkay	they have also made out with shittons of money	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	indeed	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	but	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	heck, coin* did a lot of marketing	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	benkay seriously ? what ?	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	bfl did not provide value	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	nor did they deliver	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	anything under 1bn is a joke, i hope we're clear.	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	now imagine	[22:55]
benkay	bfl and gox are rolling in it!	[22:55]
benkay	oh fine	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	if bfl had good marketing	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	and delivered	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	AM would be dead already	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	for the sort of position, for the sort of circumstance, 1 bn is a joke.	[22:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.774999 = 7.1 BTC [+]	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	or at least half-dead	[22:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [+]	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	benkay consider : myspace sold itself for a bn. back a decade ago, before the qe. groupon's COMPETITOR is valued north of 3bn, after shedding a lot of valuation.	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	what are these things ? what do they do ?	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	nothing compared.	[22:56]
benkay	let me clarify: for scammers who advertise well, they made out like bandits.	[22:56]
ThickAsThieves	i always called groupon as useless	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[22:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.775 = 3.55 BTC [+]	[22:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0184 BTC [-]	[22:57]
ThickAsThieves	they provided a service, to early investors	[22:57]
ThickAsThieves	thats about it	[22:57]
ThickAsThieves	otherwise they gutted small business	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	was sad really.	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	same exact business model as the airbnb thing	[22:57]
benkay	wat	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	gutting lease people.	[22:58]
benkay	lease people?	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	it's getting disgusting to watch, all these "businesses" into mass-gutting	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	benkay yes. it is against your lease pretty much everywhere to sublet	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	especially to transients	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	it is against city ordinances too , in most metro areas.	[22:58]
ThickAsThieves	my mom sent me this email today: "Subj: Klout.com - I just saw a thing on Nightline about it. Kinda like Linkedin I think....only they rate you with a number...not for me...lol....but I am curious what you think about it...?"	[22:59]
ThickAsThieves	makes me mad	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	klout is kinda funny, keeps sucking my cock. "o, you've been retweeted 67 times this week. average uis 6"	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	bla bla bla. clikc more please.	[22:59]
ThickAsThieves	like wtf is nightline now, product placement?	[23:00]
benkay	yeah but screw those ordinances, mp	[23:00]
benkay	they were all put in place to drive the boarding houses out of business	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	right-o.	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	so basically the model is, fuck your relationship with your landlord and the city hall	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	so -2-3k	[23:00]
benkay	my lease allows for subletting	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	and out of it we extract 50 bux and you can have 20	[23:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 343 @ 0.000699 = 0.2398 BTC [+]	[23:01]
benkay	and the city halls rules benefit hotel owners at my expense	[23:01]
benkay	classic cartel shit	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	not really.	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	i wouldn't want to live next to some random penny-ante inkeeper in his mind.	[23:01]
benkay	with modern reputation tracking tools he'd be out of business rather quickly i imagine	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	freedom is great for rural areas. to live in a city you must necessarily be very, very submissive.	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	the only way people can pack that tight : everyone washes, everyone moves slowly etc	[23:02]
benkay	only true recently, though. see paris, london, rome?	[23:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00075 BTC [+]	[23:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 500 @ 0.000799 = 0.3995 BTC [+]	[23:03]
benkay	washing is overrated; an artifact of the "smell good" industry.	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	lolk	[23:03]
benkay	that said, demand it of all partners.	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	even earlier. pick a time and place, they had some sort of town screwdown.	[23:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 500 @ 0.000848 = 0.424 BTC [+]	[23:04]
benkay	screwdown?	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	heck, you weren't even allowed in medieval german towns unless you were a burgher	[23:04]
davout	what is this washing thing everyone keeps talking about	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	actually something like that i'd like to see. costs you 100k a year to live in London. tyou don'ty like it, move to wolverhampton	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	and if you want to be a great burgher, 1.5mn	[23:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01849999 = 0.2775 BTC [+]	[23:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 145 @ 0.0185 = 2.6825 BTC [+]	[23:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.0006685 = 5.6154 BTC [-]	[23:05]
benkay	i did enjoy new york, but i couldn't swing the burgher's fee.	[23:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9301 BTC [+]	[23:06]
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mircea_popescu	awell.	[23:08]
benkay	powerful motivator, those sparkly lights.	[23:11]
benkay	subject of, i recommend the new Gatsby flick.	[23:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4444 = 2.222 BTC [+]	[23:12]
davout	would you donate if vim displayed a bitcoin address on its splash screen ? (got a reply from bram molenaar after emailing him about it)	[23:12]
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benkay	hahaha	[23:14]
mircea_popescu	maybe.	[23:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.000856 = 0.0086 BTC [+]	[23:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0172 BTC [-]	[23:15]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.000857 = 0.0857 BTC [+]	[23:17]
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WILLdude	Hello	[23:20]
benkay	'lo sir	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	u no come to disturb.	[23:21]
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davout	ok, i'll push it, i'll promise a 5 BTC donation, can I tell him I have already some folks who committed to donating ?	[23:23]
Bunnyh	it might take a while until i get to see that address in debian stable. even a 0.01 BTC donation should be huge then	[23:25]
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benkay	why not, davout?	[23:26]
davout	who knows, it could be in ubuntu pretty fast	[23:26]
benkay	just tell him you have 5btc line up	[23:26]
benkay	lined*	[23:27]
benkay	heck	[23:27]
davout	benkay: these are mine :-)	[23:27]
benkay	offer it as abounty	[23:27]
benkay	yeah i ain't gonna	[23:27]
benkay	honestly i'd rather donate to tim pope	[23:27]
davout	benkay: that's fine :) just looking to promise him some sexier amount with the help of some other bitcoin-tards	[23:28]
benkay	but that's neither here nor there. the point is to put a bitcoin tip address on all of the splash screens amirite?	[23:28]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00066858 = 12.3019 BTC [+]	[23:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00067001 = 3.5511 BTC [+]	[23:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066974 = 2.8939 BTC [-]	[23:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18479 @ 0.00067001 = 12.3811 BTC [+]	[23:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 55 @ 0.0185 = 1.0175 BTC [+]	[23:34]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 153 @ 0.0175 = 2.6775 BTC [-]	[23:35]
davout	benkay: the point is to help molenaar to help the kids from uganda and at the same time spread the bitcoin love to all the geeks that use vim	[23:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0185 BTC [+]	[23:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01711 = 0.2224 BTC [-]	[23:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0027 = 0.27 BTC [-]	[23:42]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.017199 = 0.086 BTC [+]	[23:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.017199 = 0.172 BTC [+]	[23:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0172 = 0.0688 BTC [+]	[23:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.000701 = 0.007 BTC [-]	[23:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0007 = 0.07 BTC [-]	[23:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00069 BTC [-]	[23:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00066 = 0.0013 BTC [-]	[23:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 170 @ 0.000641 = 0.109 BTC [-]	[23:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 50 @ 0.00064 = 0.032 BTC [-]	[23:49]
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ThickAsThieves	hey mp, I got a reply from CampBX	[23:51]
ThickAsThieves	about the MSB#	[23:51]
ThickAsThieves	"We have received this question a lot, and the direct answer is that our application is under review by FinCEN. However to be honest compliance is far more complicated so boiling it down to FinCEN check box is overly simplistic."	[23:51]
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davout	also they'd need to register in all 50 states, which is horribly expensive	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	mkay so what's the #	[23:55]
ThickAsThieves	do you get a nuber for applying?	[23:55]
ThickAsThieves	number*	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	well of course	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	how do they know they're under review ?	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	got a brick through the window scribbled in lipstick with "your application is under review, don;'t call us we'll call you" ?	[23:56]
ThickAsThieves	that's what i assumed	[23:56]
ThickAsThieves	bricks are no good here?	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	yeah it's how it normally works.	[23:57]
jurov	means fincen received the application and preemptively lost/misfiled it	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	lol. anyway.	[23:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4449 = 1.3347 BTC [+]	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	anyway, funny. "are you a doctor ? " "yes i am" "where's your diploma ?" "Well i'm in school and really being a doctor is more of a philosophical point	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	boiling it down to the diploma checkbox is terribly simplistic"	[23:58]

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