Forum logs for 15 Jun 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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decimation | not every call girl can do calculus, she needs to be given a better purpose | [00:15] |
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decimation | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1164012 < those are very fancy hats | [00:21] |
assbot | Logged on 14-06-2015 17:42:25; mircea_popescu: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0d/57/bd/0d57bd3b61e45343644281ed7d1cca3f.jpg << this | [00:21] |
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decimation | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163996 < but what is the altnerative to the state? | [00:28] |
assbot | Logged on 14-06-2015 17:31:18; mircea_popescu: moreover, there are hard to miss parallels between this entire "saving the state" interventionism of the us coallition | [00:28] |
decimation | if there were an obvious alternative it probably would have happened already? | [00:28] |
trinque | a WoT of a hundred million people, maybe | [00:32] |
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decimation | I guess. when your house is on fire are you gonna look through your rolodex? | [00:34] |
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trinque | there are a number of ways to come at that particular problem | [00:35] |
decimation | sure, but in the end they all involve a peice of actual real estate with an actual physical structure | [00:36] |
trinque | couldn't we apply the same argument to plowing the roads, or other similar work? | [00:39] |
trinque | in the absence of a central authority dictating that there shall be a fire dept, I wouldn't expect that the need to put out fires would vanish along with it | [00:39] |
funkenstein_ | where do you live that the state runs the fire dept? | [00:41] |
decimation | not a literal us state here, state = government | [00:41] |
trinque | ^ | [00:41] |
funkenstein_ | well any business has its governing structure | [00:42] |
funkenstein_ | fire departments usually don't need to be able to counterfeit money | [00:43] |
funkenstein_ | non sequitur, sorry | [00:44] |
funkenstein_ | what is the alternative to slavery? | [00:46] |
decimation | but someone has to claim the land, and people need a place to sleep | [00:46] |
funkenstein_ | what do you mean someone has to claim the land? | [00:47] |
decimation | if the land is unclaimed, how do you build a house? | [00:47] |
funkenstein_ | with materials | [00:48] |
trinque | owning something is having control over it | [00:48] |
decimation | heh | [00:48] |
trinque | it's not an abstract granted by an authority | [00:48] |
decimation | trinque: yes, and the implication quickly becomes "I sit in my mud hut with my ak and you sit in yours" | [00:48] |
decimation | if you need an army to do anything that is | [00:49] |
trinque | we should define what we mean by state | [00:49] |
funkenstein_ | indeed | [00:49] |
trinque | probably means something a bit more than "owns this dirt" | [00:49] |
funkenstein_ | there is the question of "who's your roof" | [00:51] |
trinque | this monstrous, bureaucratic "modern state" which infiltrates every aspect of life is to whom I refer | [00:51] |
trinque | decimation: or in other words... if only the fire dept was the most of our worries | [00:52] |
trinque | I'd be happy to see it go if the rest were also in the bathwater | [00:53] |
decimation | trinque: no doubt, I can imagine lots of other structures, but I just don't see how groups of people who need to do business together can get away from some kind of central coordinating mechanism for certain tasks | [00:53] |
trinque | neither can I | [00:53] |
decimation | note that this doesn't imply 'modern state' is the only possibly solution | [00:53] |
trinque | perhaps something eventually emerges which is the aggregate of contracts within the WoT | [00:54] |
decimation | but it seems to me that nearly all qualifying solutions meet some definition of 'state' | [00:54] |
trinque | and in fact, built upon consent, it would have far greater legitimacy | [00:54] |
funkenstein_ | malcolm x says the state becomes necessary when one needs to separate those who have from those who have not | [00:55] |
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trinque | malcolm x was a reactionary with no proposal | [00:56] |
trinque | cept what, islam? | [00:56] |
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funkenstein_ | his proposal was that the bullet was more powerful than the ballot | [00:57] |
trinque | thought of that all by himself, did he? | [00:57] |
funkenstein_ | that wasn't his claim | [00:57] |
trinque | anyhow. it's true that anywhere humans gather and interact structures will emerge | [00:57] |
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funkenstein_ | true indeed. people talk about "the government" as if that meant something specific.. so many out there | [00:58] |
trinque | decimation: one important distinction may be that whereas the modern state seeks to make humans fungible, to normalize them according to some standard | [00:59] |
trinque | the WoT allows for *varying* standards of interaction based on the relationships involved | [01:00] |
decimation | sure, but that's a distinction between 'a state' and 'the modern structure' (as moldbug would put it) | [01:01] |
trinque | I don't disagree | [01:01] |
decimation | I would probably setting for a 'modern state' that did its best to cultivate the quality of its human potential, rather than treating it like an infinite resource | [01:02] |
decimation | s/setting/settle/ | [01:02] |
funkenstein_ | i find it easier to talk about tax regimes | [01:03] |
trinque | if you presuppose my involvement in some agreement between other people, you've presupposed me right out of the conversation in both cases! | [01:05] |
trinque | lol | [01:05] |
trinque | if I haven't signed something, it has been forced upon me | [01:05] |
trinque | to state the obvious | [01:06] |
funkenstein_ | to quote noone you are likely to consider sane, you signed up when you chose to be born | [01:06] |
trinque | the social contract is religious bullshit | [01:07] |
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funkenstein_ | I'm not sure what the social contract is. As you point out, I didn't sign it | [01:09] |
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trinque | or "you are not your own but were bought at a price" | [01:10] |
trinque | corinthian's something something | [01:10] |
trinque | or any other such brainwashing which precludes my own decisionmaking | [01:10] |
decimation | trinque: but in that case Paul is referring to those who believe in Jesus | [01:10] |
trinque | sure and my parents had me baptised | [01:10] |
trinque | so I'm his bondslave for life according to this or that interpretation of folk legends | [01:11] |
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decimation | if your point is that your salvation is involuntary, I don't think that is correct, but Christians do disagree on this point | [01:12] |
trinque | point is people with mouths can declare anything at all | [01:13] |
trinque | that doesn't mean that I acknowledge it | [01:13] |
decimation | indeed. yet, you were born, fed, taught, and you will die. | [01:14] |
trinque | when someone says "there is a social contract" that's just a backdoor way of saying "you shall accept the implications of there being a social contract" | [01:14] |
trinque | I might revise that further to "I shall force you to behave as though there were such a thing as a social contract." | [01:15] |
trinque | though the "I" in the sentence may not be the speaker | [01:15] |
funkenstein_ | so what behavior are we talking about here? | [01:16] |
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decimation | trinque: note that many people would replace orthodox Christianity with some kind of warmed-over socialism, that doesn't make their socialism Christianity (as loudly as they might protest otherwise) | [01:18] |
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trinque | decimation: I grant that | [01:21] |
trinque | wouldn't it be nice for a man to call a command a command, so you know what freedom you actually have | [01:23] |
trinque | if any. | [01:23] |
trinque | the destruction of the language in order to convince slaves they are not slaves costs far too much | [01:24] |
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trinque | decimation: I've heard it called "stealing your stolen from" around here, and it's exactly on the mark | [01:26] |
trinque | so then going back to the "state", if the "state" is this, then a "state" is *not* the aggregate of agreements made by free men | [01:27] |
trinque | might be nice to give that one it's own word | [01:27] |
funkenstein_ | in practical use, the state is whatever the guy with the gun tells you it is | [01:28] |
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trinque | funkenstein_: things are what they are, though we may be forced to call them otherwise | [01:32] |
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funkenstein_ | yhwh wasn't interested in this new testament stuff | [01:36] |
funkenstein_ | trinque, indeed. sounds like a small statement but you have just affirmed something big methinks | [01:37] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51981 @ 0.00040768 = 21.1916 BTC [+] | [01:41] |
funkenstein_ | while we're here, http://www.theonion.com/video/onn-exclusive-one-on-one-interview-with-god-37236 | [01:43] |
assbot | ONN Exclusive: One-On-One Interview With God - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ie5mul ) | [01:43] |
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punkman | tea and crumpets | [03:49] |
punkman | I do have a piece left, maybe for lunch | [03:53] |
punkman | don't fry it though, better toasted/grilled | [03:54] |
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punkman | punkman's salad suggestion: purslane, rocket, cherry tomatos and grilled haloumi | [03:58] |
punkman | can't go wrong with steak | [04:02] |
punkman | then you gotta buy some seeds | [04:03] |
punkman | well anything will do, it's salad | [04:09] |
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punkman | any snail farmers down under? | [04:12] |
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punkman | not too often, I got a box of them fattening up though | [04:13] |
punkman | fry them with garlic and rosemary | [04:13] |
punkman | white flour | [04:15] |
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punkman | !up Vexual | [04:17] |
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punkman | no the box gets pretty gross | [04:17] |
punkman | gotta give them a scrub, and check for casualties | [04:28] |
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punkman | in other news https://musalbas.com/2015/06/14/e-detective-security-advisory.html | [04:31] |
assbot | Security advisory - E-Detective Lawful Interception System ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSIWTY ) | [04:31] |
punkman | "The .tar file must be encrypted with the static key /tmp/.charlie. Yes, that's the actual key - the software passes the wrong argument to OpenSSL. -K is used to pass the keyfile instead of -kfile, meaning that the key is the path of the keyfile rather than the contents" | [04:31] |
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punkman | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHbGtiVUEAAwfM9.jpg | [04:37] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSJl8S ) | [04:37] |
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thestringpuller | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/39xdf3/bitstamp_withdrawal_17_days_and_counting_no/ << burnside resurfaces | [15:28] |
mircea_popescu | i take it the unsolicited redrawing of mpex on toilet paper by kindergartners did not end up selling for the "very modest" five digit figure he had in... for lack of a better term, mind ? | [15:32] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2015/05/17/sailor-death-bahrain-balcony-farragut/27483591/ | [15:46] |
assbot | Sailor dies in Bahrain after fall from balcony ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz6N0t ) | [15:46] |
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mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-i/#comment-114533 << people still working on the ~fallout~ :D from that article. | [15:56] |
assbot | The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume I on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz7Op3 ) | [15:56] |
mircea_popescu | seriously, as far as the "public opinion" is concenred, "there exists a weapon that has never been used on account of it being too effectual". something that happened with nothing never, the celts used iron weapons and the europeans used machine guns and everything in between that actually worked and was actually useful was actually used. and not a little used. USED. ubiquitously used, the franks re-engineered their en | [15:58] |
mircea_popescu | tire societal relations to make room for the horse on the battlefield. | [15:58] |
mircea_popescu | and yet... | [15:58] |
mircea_popescu | ugh... wrong fucking link. i meant http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/#comment-114526 | [16:03] |
assbot | On how the factored 4096 RSA keys story was handled, and what it means to you. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz8yuy ) | [16:03] |
Naphex | !up dooglus | [16:04] |
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mircea_popescu | and in Naphex news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrmr7k6kpn1qd2dcwo1_r1_500.gif | [16:05] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz8J99 ) | [16:05] |
Naphex | :)) | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [16:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76129 @ 0.00041556 = 31.6362 BTC [-] {4} | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164079 << it certainly is more mind altering than a long term alcohol habit. | [16:09] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 00:25:07; jurov: "Also, programmers can also attest to the fact that long-term coding is very much a tantric, mind-altering endeavor." | [16:09] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164089 << because you're not on the stuff the guy's smoking | [16:10] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 00:32:11; jurov: dunno why I find it so funny | [16:10] |
ben_vulpes | mebbe in that it'll drive you insane.. | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164101 << lul WHAT THE SHIT | [16:10] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 01:03:44; asciilifeform: 'Shortly thereafter, officers who had been working undercover to catch citizens attempting to self-serve, swarmed in to arrest the mostly nude man – but not before Mapes took down 3 of the 6 officers by himself.' | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | how is "working undercover" what you do when you sit around in a gas station "trying to catch people who self serve" ? this isn't even lance corporal, whaty officer. | [16:11] |
BingoBoingo | https://falkvinge.net/2015/06/15/launching-new-reporting-service-682-writers-editors-managers-wanted-for-part-time-yes-youll-get-paid-and-paid-well-launch-now-operational-in-q3/ << lol qntra ripoff | [16:11] |
assbot | Launching New Reporting Service – 682 Writers, Editors, Managers Wanted For Part-Time. Yes, You’ll Get Paid, And Paid Well. Launch Now, Operational In Q3. - Falkvinge on Infopolicy ... ( http://bit.ly/1cWAUfC ) | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo for as long as fiat financing lasts, everyone gets to pretend they're the most serene republic. | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes exactly what i meant. | [16:11] |
BingoBoingo | "publishes all news as shareable images, thereby bypassing a large number of restrictions and limitations, not needing clickbait, and being immune to adblock – but also paying people well, using bitcoin" << And completely ignoring the MP doesn't read text as images | [16:12] |
mircea_popescu | lol immune to adblock. | [16:13] |
mircea_popescu | "we've seen teh weird web technologies deployed on 8chan last month and we figure it's actual magic" | [16:13] |
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mircea_popescu | anyway, someone should tell falkvinge to gtfo in here and stop being retarded. | [16:15] |
mircea_popescu | he's not THIS stupid, no need to fake it. | [16:16] |
BingoBoingo | Dude prolly figures since oldmedia pays him more attention than it does mp, that he can just mash two mp ideas together and herptiy derp and whistle while he twerks | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164125 << sounds just like pretty much every smart woman ever. what exactly is "failed " ? | [16:17] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 02:47:59; decimation: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-557568/I-love-girl--Im-control-boasts-fallen-child-genius.html < smart folks are maybe also not always wise? | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo maybe. there should be a new word, "low functioning intelligence". the exact counterparty to high functioning autism | [16:18] |
mircea_popescu | when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. | [16:18] |
BingoBoingo | Sounds like an actual problem. I'd consider tossing him an invite, but he's a complete stranger. All I know him as is the pirate trying to make a qntra... but special needs. | [16:20] |
mircea_popescu | he had some rather on point comments re bitcoin's end game in 2012 | [16:20] |
mircea_popescu | i think i even commented on his site at some point | [16:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69850 @ 0.0004107 = 28.6874 BTC [-] | [16:20] |
BingoBoingo | I have vaguely familair with the name being said places, but the context is unknown to me. | [16:22] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164136 << the question is misstated in that it assumes an alternative is needed. "what is the alternative to bell bottoms???". | [16:25] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 03:24:29; decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163996 < but what is the altnerative to the state? | [16:25] |
mircea_popescu | needn't have "an alternative to monarchy" in terms monarchy'd comprehend. ditto re state. | [16:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88930 @ 0.00042374 = 37.6832 BTC [+] {2} | [16:26] |
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mircea_popescu | the proposition that "religion === morality" or "state===society" or "monarchy===worldview" etc is so much smarmy pretense. | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | if the state went away tomorrow nobody'd even notice. | [16:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3970 @ 0.00042581 = 1.6905 BTC [+] | [16:27] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164143 << the state is neither. | [16:29] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 03:32:36; decimation: sure, but in the end they all involve a peice of actual real estate with an actual physical structure | [16:29] |
BingoBoingo | !Up HeySteve | [16:29] |
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scoopbot_revived | France Demands Google Extend "Right to be Forgotten" to Global Domains http://qntra.net/2015/06/france-demands-google-extend-right-to-be-forgotten-to-global-domains/ | [16:29] |
mircea_popescu | it pretends, and apparently convincingly, to be either or both, but it is neither. for that matter, koreans believe "the party" is equal to "the atmosphere". what of it. | [16:29] |
HeySteve | hey, thanks BingoBoingo | [16:29] |
mircea_popescu | how goes. | [16:29] |
HeySteve | well thanks, how are you? | [16:30] |
mircea_popescu | not bad. | [16:30] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164147 << you will know the leper by his sores. "the state" is any arrangement which pretends that the use of violence is under "its" monopoly. | [16:30] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 03:37:49; decimation: not a literal us state here, state = government | [16:30] |
mircea_popescu | this has exactly zero to do with governance in the general case. | [16:31] |
HeySteve | today's luls courtesy of America: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-15/lying-white-african-american-naacp-president-resigns-shocked-focus-her-race | [16:31] |
assbot | Lying White 'African American' NAACP President Resigns Shocked By Focus On Her Race | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1Igdfzu ) | [16:31] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164153 << im not even sure. | [16:31] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 03:42:37; decimation: but someone has to claim the land, and people need a place to sleep | [16:31] |
BingoBoingo | !up ag3nt_zer0 | [16:32] |
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ag3nt_zer0 | thanks! | [16:32] |
mircea_popescu | iroquis worked fine without anyone "claiming the land". fine enough for the us to try and copy off them everything they didn't understand from french anyway | [16:32] |
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danielpbarron | BingoBoingo, "Google has made undeniably made an effort" remove the first 'made' ? | [16:32] |
danielpbarron | also, "whether its has" should be 'it' ? | [16:33] |
ag3nt_zer0 | question: does it matter what email provider I use for GPG setup? I tried to set it up with Tutanota but cannot set it up with thunderbird and enigmail which i suspected but wasn't sure until I tried... I shudder to maintain any connection to google or yahoo, but does it matter with GPG? | [16:34] |
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mircea_popescu | if you run gpg correctrly, whic his to say locally, use plaintext email | [16:35] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164175 << he is wrong. the state becomes necessary when people who aren't willing to kill if it comes to it wish to pretend they're still people. | [16:41] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 03:51:29; funkenstein_: malcolm x says the state becomes necessary when one needs to separate those who have from those who have not | [16:41] |
HeySteve | sounds like the justification for a communist state | [16:42] |
mircea_popescu | it does ? | [16:43] |
ag3nt_zer0 | ok ty mircea_popescu I am pretty confused... I have been following contravex guide - so is that preparing me to run locally? Or is utilizing enigmail through thunderbird attached to a gmail account no longer local? And is it just more secure to use plaintext over html? So much to learn... | [16:43] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, malcom x correctly identified "the state is this thing which fucks us over", but he thought it's about money (ie, what he didn't have) rather than about cocksize (ie, what the people actually employing it didn't have). | [16:43] |
mircea_popescu | whenever you see a cripple walking on a crutch, it's a good idea to think the crutch as compensation for HIS shortcoming, not yours. | [16:44] |
mircea_popescu | this, of course, is still uncharted territory in the mental map of the fifth millenium. | [16:44] |
BingoBoingo | ag3nt_zer0: Just encrypt and then paste into a mail client | [16:44] |
mircea_popescu | ag3nt_zer0 the fewer things involved, the less available to break. and yes, what he said. | [16:45] |
ag3nt_zer0 | ok thanks guys | [16:45] |
mircea_popescu | we routinely pass messages here as dpaste for instance | [16:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31275 @ 0.00042581 = 13.3172 BTC [+] | [16:45] |
BingoBoingo | ag3nt_zer0: But mail client beats webmail, because webmail fuck up line endings and spacing | [16:45] |
BingoBoingo | ag3nt_zer0: Claws is a good email client, but do your email writing and reading outside of it and encrypt/decrypt outside of it | [16:46] |
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BingoBoingo | Don't want plaintext leaking into your drafts folder... | [16:46] |
BingoBoingo | danielpbarron: Both fixed | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164195 << no, obama's daughters have signed up to suck my cock when they were born. i signed nothing. | [16:48] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 04:02:58; funkenstein_: to quote noone you are likely to consider sane, you signed up when you chose to be born | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | see how nicely this works ? | [16:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50750 @ 0.00042601 = 21.62 BTC [+] {2} | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | also the jews signed to like gas when they were born. | [16:48] |
ag3nt_zer0 | ok, thanks for the help guys, and please forgive the derpage, but I suppose this means do not use something like the enigmail add-on? | [16:48] |
ag3nt_zer0 | I will check out claws too thanks BingoBoingo | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | ag3nt_zer0 you'd be the first one here to use it. | [16:48] |
asciilifeform | what's with the folks who 'need' the automated email-pgp things? are they still using 2-button mice ? | [16:49] |
ag3nt_zer0 | hehe | [16:49] |
trinque | what's a mouse | [16:49] |
asciilifeform | trinque: that thing you sometimes use to move crud between x11 terms | [16:49] |
trinque | haha, oh right | [16:50] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform i doubt most people realise security is not an app | [16:50] |
BingoBoingo | Also one of the greatest weapons of the shitgnomes is burying people in bad choices | [16:50] |
mircea_popescu | hey, it worked for wallmart... | [16:50] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: not quite. all the 'bad choices' are really many faces of one god, upon the most casual examination | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | that sounds pretty jewish | [16:51] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Of course, but what is one to do when they first encounter berries in the wilderness? | [16:51] |
ag3nt_zer0 | So I got a raspberry pi and am hoping that noodling around with this device will correct some of these fundamental misunderstanding I have... | [16:51] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: look for the dead animals ? | [16:52] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Russian are prettty well culturally jewish. | [16:52] |
trinque | ag3nt_zer0: what is it that you want to learn? | [16:52] |
mircea_popescu | esp in odessa | [16:52] |
asciilifeform | aga | [16:52] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: It's nature the dead animals don't last long before other animals see the phree protein | [16:52] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164500 << not quite. in unstable 'racial yugoslavias' like usa, 'state' is the apex predator. if it goes to sleep for just one day - the place burns | [16:53] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 19:22:29; mircea_popescu: if the state went away tomorrow nobody'd even notice. | [16:53] |
decimation | how would the iroquis mint chips? how would they arrange for more than 5000 humans per sq mile? | [16:53] |
asciilifeform | 50 | [16:53] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164216 << the difference between jewish religion and communism is slight. the pretense christianity is anything but an (intellectually lesser) jewish sect is ridoinculous. and so here we go. | [16:54] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 04:14:07; decimation: trinque: note that many people would replace orthodox Christianity with some kind of warmed-over socialism, that doesn't make their socialism Christianity (as loudly as they might protest otherwise) | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | decimation are you putting formal constraints on human happiness noiw ? | [16:54] |
ag3nt_zer0 | Trinque, well some basic programming would be a good place to start I think... a more fundamental understanding of the history of the cypherpunk movement, encrytion fundamentals, etc, anything that will allow me to be something more than a slave | [16:54] |
decimation | all human happiness is relative | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | "how would they solve the prob lem solved by chips" ios one question. | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | "How would they make X" is another. | [16:55] |
asciilifeform | ag3nt_zer0: how did you come to the notion that a closed turd of a platform such as 'raspberry' is a good starting point for learning programming ? | [16:55] |
ag3nt_zer0 | Asciilifeform: magickally I think | [16:56] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [16:56] |
mircea_popescu | !gettrust ag3nt_zer0 | [16:56] |
assbot | ag3nt_zer0 is not registered in WoT. | [16:56] |
mircea_popescu | i guess you can't do that till you sort gpg huh | [16:57] |
ag3nt_zer0 | no working on it haha yeah | [16:57] |
BingoBoingo | ag3nt_zer0: TI-89 is probably a better platform for play computing | [16:57] |
asciilifeform | ag3nt_zer0: may i suggest a change in magicks ? have a stern talk with your amulet supplier. | [16:57] |
trinque | !b 1 | [16:57] |
assbot | Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/33KY7Y9.txt ) | [16:57] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: the -89 in production for the past 7 or so years is a steaming pile of shit | [16:57] |
ag3nt_zer0 | asciilifeform: yes working out the LSD kinks | [16:57] |
asciilifeform | imagine, a calculator with a boot time! | [16:58] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Hence Ebay | [16:58] |
BingoBoingo | Why would anyone buy a "new" "calculator" | [16:58] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: same reason why a winblows box. 'it's what they had in the shop' | [16:58] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164495 << no one actually asks 'what is the alternative to state.' what they are really asking is 'what, in your cosmography, is to be the means whereby i get fed, roofed, and far away from bloodthirsty cannibals like before ?' and if the answer is 'you don't, fuck you, biodiesel' don't expect a 'thank you' from the interlocutor | [17:00] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 19:21:18; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164136 << the question is misstated in that it assumes an alternative is needed. "what is the alternative to bell bottoms???". | [17:00] |
mircea_popescu | tough. | [17:00] |
mircea_popescu | might as well ask "what in your cosmography, maps the thing that ensures my eternal life past the pearly gates" | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu | i am not responsible for the subjective delusion of inquirers. | [17:01] |
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asciilifeform | nah they're just interested in earthly life past next tuesday | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu | nope | [17:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00042603 = 22.963 BTC [+] | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu | they just discuss it in those tersm, inappropriately. | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu | but otherwise, they are discussing salvation in the reliugious sense | [17:01] |
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asciilifeform | imho this deserves a little elaboration, if there is 'space in this margin' | [17:02] |
asciilifeform | most folks i encounter in usa are elementarily concerned with cannibals | [17:02] |
asciilifeform | very practical problem | [17:02] |
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mircea_popescu | yeah. what you don't know is that the concept of "cannibals" is alike the concept that "niggers are by nature made to be slaves" | [17:02] |
asciilifeform | nothing theological about it | [17:02] |
mircea_popescu | came from the same place, too. | [17:02] |
mircea_popescu | hahaha | [17:02] |
mircea_popescu | guess the place it came from | [17:03] |
mircea_popescu | starts with m and ends in y | [17:03] |
asciilifeform | actually it comes from observable ground. i can walk for an hour right now and end in a place from which would have even chances of coming back. | [17:03] |
mircea_popescu | not so observable. antrhopologically speaking, the behaviour in question is beyond rare. | [17:04] |
asciilifeform | about as rare as pedestrians run over by bus | [17:04] |
decimation | ascii could also ride a nearby train in a certain direction and be the only member of his race aboard | [17:04] |
asciilifeform | most pedestrians, at most times, are able to stay out of under the bus. | [17:04] |
trinque | east coast cities really do suck | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | in the european cultural discourse it ended up as a bit of editorializing by people without a daily mail, looking to illustrate the idiocy they read in some book. | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform no. about as rare as women giving birth to buses. | [17:04] |
asciilifeform | decimation: for this, i don't need the train. live there. | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform there is no dispute that the state creates that place it supposedly defends you from. | [17:05] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: of course. | [17:05] |
mircea_popescu | christianity ended up creating on earht the hell it was going to save people from | [17:05] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: none of what i describe here existed in 1950. | [17:05] |
mircea_popescu | communism ditto. | [17:05] |
mircea_popescu | it's just a thing | [17:05] |
asciilifeform | but it ~is~ here now. | [17:06] |
decimation | except those 'christians' were departing from orthodox doctrine | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | sucks. | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | decimation oh, comrade stalin betrayed the sacred ideals ? | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | tell me more.tiff | [17:06] |
decimation | more like, they became closet atheists and decided to use the church as a propaganda organ | [17:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10807 @ 0.00042554 = 4.5988 BTC [-] | [17:07] |
mircea_popescu | but the church is funfamentally good amirite? just it was misimplemented in practice. | [17:07] |
mircea_popescu | hitler for pope! | [17:07] |
decimation | people are fundamentally evil and so are their institutions | [17:08] |
mircea_popescu | some institutions are necessarily going to fuck up because they proceed from broken presumptions. | [17:08] |
mircea_popescu | christianity is one of them. | [17:09] |
decimation | if you read the old testament, most of the people who became prophets were hit upside the head by God and told what to do, they weren't bureaucrats receiving their sinecures | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | (and yes as alf points out, the "broken presumptions" are always faces of the same demon. "people are equal", his proper name) | [17:09] |
trinque | "There is an ultimate power you can know and derive knowledge from directly, and his son absolved you of every mistake you could ever make." << fucking mind virus | [17:09] |
trinque | the one short-circuits learning and the other justifies it | [17:10] |
mircea_popescu | trinque interesting, we have different criteria ? | [17:10] |
asciilifeform | trinque: this particular virus only works on those who are immunocompromised to begin with | [17:10] |
asciilifeform | like the oddball flora which infest aids patient | [17:10] |
trinque | mircea_popescu: maybe, how so? | [17:11] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform amusingly, in aids patients virulence does not follow the usual curves. | [17:11] |
trinque | asciilifeform: yeah, got me young, still didn't take | [17:11] |
mircea_popescu | which is to say : interacting microorganisms sorta repress each other, all the time. but in imunocompromised patient, DIFFERENT set has the upper hand | [17:11] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: aha, because now it is a contest of who can eat the meat faster, rather than who can evade immune mechanism | [17:12] |
mircea_popescu | it's not just "more" or "random". it's actually different sets. | [17:12] |
asciilifeform | sorta like the dynamics of ecosystem of criminals after, rather than before, demise of mega-state | [17:12] |
asciilifeform | (to bring it back to usaschwitz thread) | [17:12] |
mircea_popescu | well, partly that, partly "there's no longer the state here to clean out x y z and make it livable for K M N so Q W R win out" | [17:12] |
decimation | so, for good reasons many choose the state they know | [17:13] |
decimation | instead of the bandits they don't | [17:13] |
mircea_popescu | works fine for as long as they're happy with it | [17:14] |
mircea_popescu | the junkie with fifty pounds of pure heroin stashed away isn't going out in the streets either. | [17:15] |
asciilifeform | to paraphrase mr rumsfeld, 'you get raped by the state you have, not the state you wish you had' | [17:15] |
trinque | I don't remember choosing a state | [17:16] |
asciilifeform | aha | [17:16] |
decimation | or 'post-monarchial non-state' as the case may be | [17:16] |
asciilifeform | but the question is normally a kind of hypothetical, 'would you like usg or the orcs with pitchforks' | [17:16] |
asciilifeform | usually folks answer 'usg says 'your money or your life', orcs say 'your life'; hence usg' | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | as such it is misstated, in the manner owners of slavegirls misstate the world to the slavegirls. | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | "would you like the beatings here or to be run over by a bus ???" | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | welllll.... | [17:17] |
trinque | biggest contribution to choosing a state most people can make is saying "nope, not this one" | [17:17] |
decimation | asciilifeform: what's the alternative? gentle bandits? usg with 'reform'? | [17:17] |
asciilifeform | trinque: even this is beyond the abilities of most | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | stepping out of the idiotology. | [17:17] |
trinque | eh they can in aggregate, just don't know it | [17:17] |
asciilifeform | decimation: last i checked, there is not a button on my desk that cancels usg | [17:18] |
trinque | or forget time to time | [17:18] |
asciilifeform | trinque: 'can in aggregate' like the chinese can jump and create earthquake, yes | [17:18] |
asciilifeform | which is to say not. | [17:18] |
asciilifeform | [17:19] | |
mircea_popescu | i run into this question a lot. "just stop" "how ?" "by not doing it" "but i don't know how!!1" | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu | usually it's resolved with "if you ever do this again im going to beat you with a wet dulap" | [17:20] |
asciilifeform | i notice a tendency among #b-a folks to dwell on 'convince folks to leave gravity well.' well, guess what, i was convinced 15+ yrs ago, before ever met you lot. and fat lot of good it did | [17:20] |
asciilifeform | one needs the means as well as the will. | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | when there's a means there's a will or how was it | [17:20] |
trinque | "where there's a will there's a way" ? | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu | i think "when there's a butthole there's a plug" | [17:21] |
trinque | lol | [17:21] |
asciilifeform | tell that to the fellow writhing in the leather straps on electric chair | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu | i'm just the man to do that, too. so yeah, i will. | [17:21] |
trinque | "You can do it!" "Manifest your destiny, brother!" | [17:22] |
trinque | bbbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzpppppttttssss! | [17:22] |
trinque | "Hm... alright bring in the next one!" | [17:22] |
mircea_popescu | mno, more like, "well... you are aware the alternative would have been being eaten by cannibals right ???" | [17:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30563 @ 0.00042554 = 13.0058 BTC [-] | [17:23] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164230 << yep | [17:24] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 04:33:18; funkenstein_: trinque, indeed. sounds like a small statement but you have just affirmed something big methinks | [17:24] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164299 <<< ahahah what the fuck | [17:25] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 09:17:46; scoopbot_revived: CoinJar COO Ryan Zhou Caught Impersonating Dice Site's Developer http://qntra.net/2015/06/coinjar-coo-ryan-zhou-caught-impersonating-dice-sites-developer/ | [17:25] |
mircea_popescu | so basically... a lot of "different people" who are actually all the same guy compose a community which spent years accusing me of being hanbot ? | [17:25] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164306 << at this rate you'll end up with a mistress. | [17:28] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 09:39:44; cazalla: i had another sober weekend so half way there to a sober month of June | [17:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61837 @ 0.00041476 = 25.6475 BTC [-] | [17:29] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164356 << kind of ? heh. | [17:32] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 15:13:45; pete_dushenski: ""It's kind of scary that somebody could know that much about us," said a former senior U.S. diplomat, pointing out the ability to use such data to impersonate an American official online, obtain passwords and plunder bank accounts." | [17:32] |
mircea_popescu | get used to it, flondors. | [17:32] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164358 << more importantly, turns out that when you work for the usg, you sign your own prison sentence / death warrant. | [17:33] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 15:14:35; pete_dushenski: turns out that when you spill the beans to a piece of paper in a drawer, someone can go in and read that piece of paper ! | [17:33] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164376 << isn't megan fox that porn cyborg woman ? | [17:36] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 15:26:58; pete_dushenski: "Management “wanted a creative building MMO [massively multiplayer online-game] with a promise of zero penises seen,” tweeted Megan Fox, a developer who worked on the project," | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164399 << "one who gets paid." | [17:37] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 15:45:54; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164361 << depends on what one means by 'agent.' afaik, mere stoolies don't fill out forms. | [17:37] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00041109 = 10.6883 BTC [-] | [18:01] |
BingoBoingo | herpity derp derp http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34206292/ | [18:09] |
assbot | Bitcoin / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/1IgtE7f ) | [18:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00041109 = 10.4828 BTC [-] | [18:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42165 @ 0.00041109 = 17.3336 BTC [-] | [18:24] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164712 << know that almost all folks paid by usg fill out no forms like these. | [18:25] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 20:34:00; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164399 << "one who gets paid." | [18:25] |
asciilifeform | speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other | [18:26] |
asciilifeform | (e.g., old residences, employers, blood relatives, marriages, etc) | [18:26] |
trinque | ~or~ why doesn't the NSA file my taxes? | [18:26] |
asciilifeform | what remains after these are subtracted is some very wooden 'list the terrorist orgs you have been a member in, and why' verbiage | [18:27] |
asciilifeform | (literally! read the thing) | [18:27] |
trinque | and why lol | [18:27] |
asciilifeform | (btw the answer, at least partially, for 'why they don't consult the files' is that what the inquisitors are mainly interested in is ~liars~ rather than the facts) | [18:27] |
asciilifeform | ditto the tax collectors | [18:28] |
asciilifeform | (if 'nsa filed your tax,' who would ever pay fines ?) | [18:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125462 @ 0.00042366 = 53.1532 BTC [+] {2} | [18:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 148032 @ 0.00042603 = 63.0661 BTC [+] | [19:10] |
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mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo of course, the truly ridiculous thing in that inept flailing of two different groups of idiots with 100 BTC in the middle is the proposition that btc-e stealing user funds is "what any legitimate busines would have done". | [19:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80550 @ 0.00042664 = 34.3659 BTC [+] {2} | [19:31] |
mircea_popescu | must be in backwards world, this magical place where "official replies" go to reddit and tardstalk. | [19:31] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108000 @ 0.00041164 = 44.4571 BTC [-] | [19:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61450 @ 0.00042828 = 26.3178 BTC [+] {3} | [19:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35700 @ 0.00042458 = 15.1575 BTC [-] | [20:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61600 @ 0.00042458 = 26.1541 BTC [-] | [20:30] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67764 @ 0.00042771 = 28.9833 BTC [+] | [20:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00042884 = 1.5867 BTC [+] | [21:23] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53606 @ 0.00042852 = 22.9712 BTC [-] {2} | [21:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00042954 = 9.9653 BTC [+] {2} | [21:51] |
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danielpbarron | !up sundance | [22:29] |
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mircea_popescu | ehehe | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | nice netmask. | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | and in highschool news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb73p2TaLz1rq6vz1o1_500.gif | [22:38] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGiCe2 ) | [22:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24472 @ 0.00042458 = 10.3903 BTC [-] | [22:40] |
decimation | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164722 < it's a good question. in fact, a careful reading of the form is interesting not for the stupid questions it asks but the large gaps it doesn't ask about | [22:42] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other | [22:42] |
decimation | it seems that most of the 'security apparatus' of usg is geared toward catching dumb or incompetent spies | [22:43] |
decimation | apparently like it is also geared to catch dumb terrorists | [22:43] |
decimation | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2014#811885 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2014#811886 | [22:44] |
assbot | Logged on 27-08-2014 04:09:34; asciilifeform: if you (org.) want to keep secrets, the menu is roughly: a) employ incorruptible fanatics b) keep all henchmen incommunicado, in 'шарашка' prisons c) there is no 'c.' tertium non datur. | [22:44] |
assbot | Logged on 27-08-2014 04:10:26; asciilifeform: notably absent from menu is 'retain army of thugs who know that spheres are interestingly secret' | [22:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00042346 = 10.2054 BTC [-] {3} | [22:48] |
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danielpbarron | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164552 << i rarely if ever use a mouse. I'm a big fan of the rubber nub in the center of the keyboard, even if it is the reason my 'b' key fell off and later stopped working | [23:52] |
assbot | Logged on 15-06-2015 19:45:47; trinque: what's a mouse | [23:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00043095 = 17.669 BTC [+] {3} | [23:57] |
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