Forum logs for 14 Dec 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: kawa << 'now' ? [00:03]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Another "LISP" in jvm turd runtime [00:04]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: well yes, but it's been around for ages. [00:04]
BingoBoingo Only just learned it existed [00:04]
BingoBoingo Has it? [00:04]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: just as 'armed bear lisp' was the original commonlisp-on-jvm [00:04]
BingoBoingo Ah [00:04]
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mircea_popescu wait what did i do. [00:06]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You loved too much? [00:06]
mircea_popescu ^ no citations. << ok that's something else. [00:08]
mircea_popescu no fucking way ?! [00:08]
asciilifeform surely mircea_popescu knew that one [00:08]
asciilifeform try to recall the old life. with physics. [00:08]
mircea_popescu no but srsly, no citations ? [00:09]
asciilifeform aha. [00:09]
mircea_popescu there's no wai. i saw it cited. [00:09]
asciilifeform it - was cited. but it did not cite. [00:09]
mircea_popescu oh oh right. [00:10]
BingoBoingo Pando editor appologizes for good article http://pando.com/2014/12/09/clearing-the-air-around-tor/ [00:15]
assbot Clearing the air around Tor | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1sqWr1R ) [00:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00059364 = 5.788 BTC [-] [00:20]
asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCKg1lURSvg << bitcoin the movie ! [00:23]
assbot Топор (Кацин) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1sqWYRj ) [00:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00123 = 1.23 BTC [-] [00:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1021 @ 0.0012 = 1.2252 BTC [00:28]
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BingoBoingo OMG the laptop stays cool for youtube movies!!! [00:32]
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BingoBoingo Burn the axe, it is the Axe's fault!!! [00:40]
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scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/12/ford-motor-company-bitcoin-a-trend-for-2015/ [00:45]
cazalla it's sunday so whaddya want.. [00:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.137 = 1.507 BTC [+] {2} [00:47]
BingoBoingo Nice. FU APPLE PAY!!! You go second. [00:48]
BingoBoingo I can endorse Топор as the bitcoin movie though [00:48]
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asciilifeform 'Bitcoin, Apple Pay and Google Wallet' << mega-lol [00:53]
BingoBoingo Neither of the latter two can fell a tree or remove a foot. [00:54]
cazalla google wallet is much like google + in that i have never used nor know anyone that has used it [00:57]
undata cazalla: I tried it once for the hell of it; didn't work [00:58]
BingoBoingo I know people who use it, but I don't know people who know they use google wallet. [00:58]
undata I slapped my phone on the card reader twice, nothing, gave up never to try again [00:58]
BingoBoingo This is why if you ever trade BTC for fiat value you never trade it for less than cash in a bag. [00:59]
asciilifeform http://pando.com/2014/12/10/its-time-for-tor-activists-to-stop-acting-like-the-spies-they-claim-to-hate << from earlier link [01:05]
assbot It’s time for Tor activists to stop acting like the spies they claim to hate | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOcMrD ) [01:05]
BingoBoingo lol [01:05]
undata acting like? [01:09]
BingoBoingo undata: Acting lik the adversary in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals [01:10]
assbot Rules for Radicals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOdhlA ) [01:10]
mats i use google wallet occasionally [01:10]
BingoBoingo Aka the definitive Obola book [01:10]
mats there's a nice 5% discount subsidized by google [01:10]
mats after associating with my cc its even better [01:11]
* asciilifeform was greatly disappointed after reading 'radicals', after mr mold's fanciful 'reviews' [01:11]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well, notice where the rules came from, Shitcago. [01:12]
undata BingoBoingo: this is how you get poor people yelling "yes we can!" ? [01:12]
BingoBoingo The "rules" achieved mass publication because they served an interest. [01:13]
BingoBoingo undata: Indeed [01:13]
undata or "yes we cannabis!" haha [01:13]
BingoBoingo The "Rules for Radicals" consists of nothing more or less than how to scare the Dailey family into realizing it isn't all poor people who are a threat, just the black ones. [01:14]
BingoBoingo And both the Daileys and Polaks were sated [01:15]
BingoBoingo "Rules" solved a specifically American problem and birthed a number of other, specifically, American problems [01:17]
BingoBoingo To think. If Poland would have just taken Shitcago by force we could have avoided this Obola thing. [01:19]
decimation re: google wallet << turns out a guy who worked on 'google checkout' went to buy a bank in Kansas: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/12/13/small-bank-in-kansas-is-a-financial-testing-ground/?_r=0 [01:19]
assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1uCeMc1 ) [01:19]
BingoBoingo decimation: Similarly because the people who made the Dwolla Gox-USD portal live in Iowa, Dwolla now lives off of Iowa state payments. [01:20]
undata BingoBoingo: this "creating an external enemy" tactic is a classic move. [01:20]
BingoBoingo undata: The thing is enemies differ. Flu virus is a different enemy than Saddam is a different enemy than a mugger. In the cases of the latter two either could be turned friend. If either was turned friend that value of each differs on orders of magnitude. [01:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19602 @ 0.00056698 = 11.1139 BTC [-] {2} [01:22]
decimation well, the nyt story and his website mention nothing about bitcoin, so he's just an anklebiter [01:22]
decimation re: ford motor company << http://www.computerworld.com/article/2859373/ford-dumps-microsoft-for-qnx-unleashes-new-functions-in-sync-v3.html Ford dumped microshit for QNX, a proper RTOS, and apparently the 'infotainment' system works much better now [01:23]
assbot Ford dumps Microsoft for QNX, unleashes new functions in Sync v3 | Computerworld ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOeIk8 ) [01:23]
undata BingoBoingo: what is the strategy behind creating a "jews" and then turning them into your friend? [01:24]
undata or have I missed the point? [01:24]
asciilifeform 'open-source QNX platform' << lol. nope. [01:25]
cazalla dwolla is a name that seemed to jump the shark for web 2.0 names [01:25]
asciilifeform basic 'homework' fail. [01:25]
BingoBoingo undata: There can be plenty ask Lockheed Martin and how much they've made this decade. [01:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14390 @ 0.00058213 = 8.3769 BTC [+] {2} [01:25]
undata BingoBoingo: ah I see what you're saying now [01:25]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah, 'journalism' [01:25]
asciilifeform 'dwolla' and its 'african' consonant cluster seems tailor-made to conjure up images of nigerian spam. [01:25]
undata a "managed" enemy [01:25]
BingoBoingo undata: Or managed ally. Anything to open the faucet. [01:26]
BingoBoingo The story of rules is finding common enemies or allies and then applying leverage by derping loudly in numbers until people neglect history. [01:27]
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BingoBoingo !up badon [01:31]
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BingoBoingo badon: How does collecting the shinies go? [01:31]
badon hi BingoBoingo [01:32]
badon BingoBoingo: It's getting pretty exciting from my point of view. [01:32]
badon BingoBoingo: I think the way it's going to go this time around is exactly the same as every other time. First, the precious metals will move (they're dirt cheap now), then the coins. [01:32]
badon I'm considering buying silver bullion for the first time since 2008. [01:32]
BingoBoingo I got fucked in rhodium 2007-2010 [01:33]
badon Yeah, I avoided rhodium, it was far too expensive. [01:33]
BingoBoingo I have the most sparkling asshole to this day. [01:33]
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badon I wrote articles recommending palladium and ruthenium. Both performed very well. [01:34]
badon Right now, I would consider buying palladium again, but silver is much more liquid and reliable as an investment. [01:34]
undata I also bought silver in 08 [01:34]
BingoBoingo I always recomend plutonium [01:34]
badon undata: You did well. [01:35]
BingoBoingo I also got fucked in 2013 trading BTC for Silver. [01:35]
badon oops [01:35]
badon Hard assets have all been hurting since 2011. [01:35]
badon Inflation has been too low. [01:35]
badon I need to write another article. [01:35]
BingoBoingo It's amazing though how much people complain about tungsten filled bars and yet the value of tungsten endures. [01:35]
badon Dang, not enough time for everything. [01:35]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [01:35]
badon This is important though, because I've got predictive powah. [01:36]
badon I've never "invested" in gold bullion. I've bought rare gold coins, and I've flipped gold, but I've never held raw bullion as an investment. [01:36]
badon Although gold is very liquid, for the amounts of money I typically deal with, I prefer food and cash instead. [01:37]
BingoBoingo That confuses me. SO you've bought a bunch of sausage, but never tasted the delicious pork in itself? [01:37]
badon For more money, then I start looking toward the rare coins. [01:37]
badon I just always skip gold. [01:37]
badon No, I eat the food. [01:37]
badon I don't sell it. [01:37]
decimation how do you distinguish 'cash' and 'gold' [01:38]
badon I just hoard it when it's cheap, and stop buying when it's expensive or there's a shortage. [01:38]
badon decimation: cash is always fiat, usually USD or EUR. [01:38]
badon I suppose bitcoin would qualify now too, but Idon't have any. [01:38]
badon Actually, I probably do have some bitcoin laying around here somewhere... [01:39]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/balajis follows the villian simon from 27bslash6.com [01:39]
assbot Balaji S. Srinivasan (@balajis) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOgpxP ) [01:39]
mats much love from america in 12/13/14 [01:39]
decimation an auspicious date indeed [01:39]
mats i nearly missed it [01:40]
cazalla badon: How does collecting the shinies go? <<< thought BingoBoingo made a pokemon reference for a moment [01:41]
BingoBoingo cazalla: I did, but I'm not sure what that means in new pokemon. I know it exists. Not to what extent. [01:42]
mats http://aljazeera.com/story/20141213232733114428 [01:42]
assbot Page not found - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/1uCjabd ) [01:42]
mats http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2014/12/japan-votes-with-abe-set-super-majority-20141213232733114428.html [01:42]
assbot Japan votes with Abe set for 'super majority' - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English [01:42]
mats http://cybersecurity.upv.es/attacks/offset2lib/offset2lib.html [01:45]
assbot Offset2lib: bypassing full ASLR on 64bit Linux ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOh4iM ) [01:45]
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decimation so the S&P500 fell ~4% this week because oil is getting cheaper, even for companies that would obviously benefit [01:51]
asciilifeform aslr bypass << snore. if this matters, one has more serious problem. [01:54]
decimation asciilifeform: I think the impulse for 'defense in depth' is a good one, the problem is that it simply isn't possible on the von neumann machine [01:55]
mats harvard arch isn't invulnerable, you know [01:55]
asciilifeform mats, decimation: i don't like referring to the 'von neumann machine' for this reason [01:56]
asciilifeform it is not anything like a complete identification of the retardation of the past 25 years of computer. [01:56]
decimation yeah, I understand, the terminology is ambiguous [01:57]
decimation mats, the issue is explained in ascii's "bedrock" essay [01:58]
asciilifeform actually, my most complete attempt at explanation was here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284 [01:58]
assbot Loper OS » Seven Laws of Sane Personal Computing ... ( http://bit.ly/1uCmhzM ) [01:59]
asciilifeform the basic idea being that a computer's owner should be able -and expected- to understand every aspect of every part in the machine (whether physical or logical) - and that everything about the design should be thought of with the purpose, above all others, of making this possible. [02:00]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The sad think is plenty of people fit that mold... for the NES! [02:03]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this is called 'degenerate case' [02:04]
asciilifeform see the lisp brick article, etc. [02:04]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Of course. NES is a brick, but people still program for it because it offers the thigns you value. [02:05]
asciilifeform anyone ever fit a keyboard to nes/snes ? [02:05]
cazalla mouse for mario paint, that count? [02:07]
decimation I think the japanese versions of the nes had keyboards if I recall [02:07]
cazalla not ps/2 so prob not eh [02:08]
asciilifeform of whatever variety. [02:08]
asciilifeform and what of persistent storage ? [02:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00059364 = 4.9272 BTC [+] [02:10]
decimation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_BASIC [02:10]
assbot Family BASIC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1uColYH ) [02:10]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Ah, it fails on those rules. It wins though on being known and documented. [02:10]
asciilifeform so does brick. [02:10]
decimation it would be mildly amusing to play with the nes BASIC cartridge [02:10]
asciilifeform the machine of roughly the same period as nes but with 'adult' i/o was 'commodore 64.' [02:11]
asciilifeform i had one. [02:11]
asciilifeform came with a book that described approximately everything there was to know about it. [02:11]
decimation I missed out on that generation, my first computer was an x86 a few years later [02:11]
asciilifeform it was what my family could afford when we came to usa. [02:12]
decimation apparently commodore used to make its own chips, in its own fab facility [02:12]
asciilifeform heavily used and many years old already when we bought it. [02:12]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform> the machine of roughly the same period as nes but with 'adult' i/o was 'commodore 64.' << Immature criticism, but not everyone likes semen [02:13]
BingoBoingo heavily used and many years old already when we bought it. << Same for me and the wagon full of Macs [02:13]
asciilifeform l0l [02:13]
BingoBoingo Commodore was doomed by its name [02:14]
asciilifeform iirc tramiel named it after a car that existed in his times [02:14]
asciilifeform rather than the nautical title directly [02:14]
asciilifeform !s tramiel [02:14]
assbot 7 results for 'tramiel' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tramiel [02:14]
BingoBoingo Sure, but is there a more ill thought out field than car naming is USia? [02:14]
asciilifeform ^ colourful character [02:14]
decimation yeah tramiel was commodore, when he left the thing tanked. it's a shame, they had a real shot at being an 'alternative' to intel [02:15]
asciilifeform intel and microshit together were the inheritors of the ancient evil ibm monopoly. [02:16]
asciilifeform i.e. the full force of usg. [02:16]
decimation ibm being too stupid to keeps its monopoly [02:16]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/oakmarie/status/543996472279457792 [02:16]
assbot Uplifted by massive numbers who marched peacefully today in /hashtag/Oakland?src=hash, then disheartened again when it turns to smashy. /hashtag/MessageDiluted?src=hash [02:16]
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mircea_popescu it occurs to me, the entire "we would have fired some guy that doesn't even actually work for us because he wouldn't clog up the pull tree with documentation-gender-improvements" is quite positive proof nobody has any actual work to do. [02:22]
mircea_popescu i mean... it's there, plain as day. "we don't do anything useful anyway". [02:22]
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BingoBoingo !up Vexual [02:24]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Sure [02:24]
BingoBoingo It is the epitome of it. [02:24]
mircea_popescu pretty much. [02:24]
BingoBoingo Engrave this in stone: @oakmarie [02:25]
BingoBoingo Follow Follow [02:25]
BingoBoingo [02:25]
BingoBoingo @BBoingo @cfarivar A cow matters too! [02:25]
BingoBoingo A cow matters too... [02:25]
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BingoBoingo Not that cheese isn't great or that sour milk products don't matter. That a cow matters in a revolution. [02:27]
Vexual I've always thought those nintendo famicons were designed to mould future alcoholic salarymen [02:27]
Vexual put a keyboard anywhere near the thing you'll need a drink [02:28]
mircea_popescu lol srsly all this thrid wave us socialist press attempts to reduce the discussion to their categories. [02:31]
mircea_popescu seriously, guardian accused pando of "cyberbullying" ? [02:31]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You mean third world. [02:31]
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BingoBoingo There is no wave. [02:31]
mircea_popescu no such thing exists. tor is and was a usg hole long before pando sort-of read it in trilema. etc. [02:31]
BingoBoingo !up olo_ [02:31]
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BingoBoingo No wave at all, just ripples. [02:31]
mircea_popescu whatever they are. [02:31]
BingoBoingo Just noise on the surface of the water. Snowden was a wave. [02:32]
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mircea_popescu i mean, guardian was lulzy enough with its pretense to relevancy. but pando for crissakes ? [02:32]
BingoBoingo He wided some villages, eroded some sand. [02:32]
mircea_popescu what's next, someone's tuna can ? [02:32]
BingoBoingo Just the continuing shrinking drama, is ripples [02:32]
BingoBoingo Not even countable in their insignificance [02:32]
mircea_popescu it is very altcoin-scammy in its development i gotta grant you that. [02:32]
mircea_popescu from the new york times to the guardian to basically facebook pages. [02:33]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The pando editor is joining the derps because he author was called out for being right in every way. [02:33]
mircea_popescu cazalla: dwolla is a name that seemed to jump the shark for web 2.0 names <<< just about when "cutesy" died. [02:33]
BingoBoingo If it isn't altcoin drama I dunno what is. [02:34]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo im not even discussing the content, which is banal. [02:34]
mircea_popescu im more interested in the form, they're still usign the same hearts-pattern crinkly paper ? [02:34]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I was still stuck on the form as well, and yes. It is arts and crafts time [02:35]
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BingoBoingo Oh, what a time for freenode to netsplit. [02:35]
BingoBoingo What a fucking time for a netsplit. [02:35]
Vexual lol, everyone picked up their clams? the price is up [02:35]
mircea_popescu badon: Inflation has been too low. < o.O [02:36]
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decimation freenode fails ascii's law #5 for reliability [02:41]
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mircea_popescu im not sure you can expect of networks what you can expect of computers. [02:43]
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decimation this is true, but it could reveal what exactly is going on [02:43]
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Vexual needs moar raspiis [02:44]
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decimation asciilifeform: thinking about your law #4, the reason why "CISC vs RISC" ended up with RISC winning is because the CISC 'language' was retarded [02:47]
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cazalla we're back [02:52]
Vexual did you see the green flash? [02:53]
Vexual white light, whatever it is [02:54]
cazalla nope, tabbed [02:54]
Vexual anyone on the western longs got a clear view of the sky tonight? [02:54]
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Vexual supposed to be some asteroid dust entering [02:55]
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decimation cazalla: I just looked outside here, it's a clear sky but I didn't see any meteors yet [03:01]
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cazalla same here, sunny, hot as fuck [03:02]
Vexual lol [03:02]
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mircea_popescu !up huseby [03:07]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [09:40]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [09:40]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014 [09:40]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [09:40]
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mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [09:41]
gribble Current Blocks: 334276 | Current Difficulty: 4.000747027127126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 334655 | Next Difficulty In: 379 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 18 hours, 34 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [09:41]
mircea_popescu o.O [09:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12340 @ 0.00058415 = 7.2084 BTC [-] [09:46]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2324 @ 0.00122899 = 2.8562 BTC [+] {3} [10:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1667 @ 0.0012 = 2.0004 BTC [10:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00061574 = 8.4664 BTC [+] [10:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10428 @ 0.00061836 = 6.4483 BTC [+] {2} [10:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00062184 = 21.7644 BTC [+] {5} [10:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00062799 = 26.3756 BTC [+] {2} [10:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2375 @ 0.0012 = 2.85 BTC [11:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4166 @ 0.0012 = 4.9992 BTC [11:23]
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mircea_popescu !up snowfall [11:41]
-assbot- You voiced snowfall for 30 minutes. [11:41]
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snowfall thanks. [11:41]
mircea_popescu sure. who're you ? [11:42]
snowfall I'm an investor who has been following your blog [11:43]
snowfall Decided to come in for a bit [11:43]
mircea_popescu cheers. [11:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1000 @ 0.0012 = 1.2 BTC [11:44]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [11:44]
gribble Current Blocks: 334290 | Current Difficulty: 4.000747027127126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 334655 | Next Difficulty In: 365 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 15 hours, 28 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 39485520463.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.30463 [11:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39038 @ 0.00058047 = 22.6604 BTC [-] {2} [11:45]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/time-to-recouperate-this-chauvinism-thing/ [11:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00056085 = 5.1598 BTC [-] [12:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43219 @ 0.00058067 = 25.096 BTC [+] {2} [12:11]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2628 @ 0.0012 = 3.1536 BTC [12:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00062906 = 3.8687 BTC [+] [12:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00062045 = 6.2045 BTC [-] [13:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24919 @ 0.00060614 = 15.1044 BTC [-] {2} [14:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0006145 = 4.7009 BTC [+] [14:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.12401162 = 1.2401 BTC [-] [14:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.12401162 = 1.4881 BTC [-] [14:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00061943 = 4.7696 BTC [+] {2} [14:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.12401162 = 2.4802 BTC [-] [14:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.12500001 = 3.75 BTC [+] [14:50]
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mats hmm, i just noticed i have a what.cd invite [14:53]
mats anyone want it? [14:53]
ben_vulpes sure [14:54]
ben_vulpes it's nigh impossible to get any seeed on the public w4r3znet these days [14:55]
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mats pm email [14:56]
ben_vulpes ;;ident [14:58]
gribble Nick 'ben_vulpes', with hostmask 'ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'ben_vulpes', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None [14:58]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: w4r3z << http://rutracker.org is pretty good [15:05]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/12Olrta ) [15:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 874 @ 0.0012 = 1.0488 BTC [15:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00062045 = 9.8031 BTC [+] [15:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2731 @ 0.00060203 = 1.6441 BTC [-] {3} [15:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46213 @ 0.00058081 = 26.841 BTC [-] {2} [15:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00057668 = 6.8625 BTC [-] [15:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 3966 @ 0.0012 = 4.7592 BTC {2} [15:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1211 @ 0.0012 = 1.4532 BTC {2} [16:02]
thestringpuller cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2p9ctz/ford_motor_company_bitcoin_a_trend_for_2015/cmuj9va "I came here for the bunny" [16:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11046 @ 0.00057527 = 6.3544 BTC [-] [16:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 850 @ 0.0012 = 1.02 BTC [16:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80872 @ 0.00056382 = 45.5973 BTC [-] {4} [16:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16278 @ 0.00063598 = 10.3525 BTC [+] [16:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00063598 = 21.6869 BTC [+] [17:11]
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kakobrekla what.cd < you dont know what impossible means until you try to seed there [17:20]
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kakobrekla >This [invite] tree has 1,062 entries, 254 branches, and a depth of 7. It has 769 Users (72%), 221 Members (21%), 62 Power Users (6%), 9 Elites (1%) and 1 Elite TM (0%). 595 users are disabled (56%), and 102 users have donated (10%). [17:25]
kakobrekla now, rather than inviting, i just dl stuff for others instead. [17:25]
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mircea_popescu srsly, that bad ? [17:31]
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kakobrekla aha [17:31]
fluffypony well that was fun [17:31]
fluffypony ~10 hours of DDoS from here [17:32]
kakobrekla Seeders: 14,936,238 [17:32]
kakobrekla Leechers: 193,624 [17:32]
kakobrekla now compete with gbps seedboxes [17:32]
mircea_popescu o.O [17:33]
mats tis a special place [17:33]
mircea_popescu so basically it is now impossible to use torrents because too many people seed ? [17:33]
fluffypony yeah [17:33]
kakobrekla on some private trackers, prolly what is not the only one, but i dunno for sure. [17:33]
mircea_popescu nuts. wd riaa/mpaa, lol. [17:34]
mats you're incentivized to find new stuff or seed the newest stuff [17:34]
mircea_popescu "incentivized". in point of fact they can dld it off you and seed themselves. [17:34]
mats i ran a script to grab 0sec releases to keep my ratio up [17:34]
mircea_popescu you're incentivized to have fast fat pipe is all. [17:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1666 @ 0.0012 = 1.9992 BTC [17:35]
kakobrekla nah [17:35]
kakobrekla for example, at one time i had over 1k torrents seeding on a 5mbit upload line, unused. [17:35]
kakobrekla the. line. was. idling. [17:35]
mircea_popescu nuts. [17:37]
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kakobrekla upon reading pms on the tracker, seems someone filled a request for me a month ago. [17:45]
kakobrekla one i made 6 years ago and put 1gig of bounty on it. [17:45]
kakobrekla nfi what it is, must be good. [17:45]
mircea_popescu kik [17:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.13899999 = 1.39 BTC [+] {2} [17:48]
kakobrekla normally when you place a gig or so, people will go to store, buy the cd, rip it to your specification, fill the request and get the bounty [17:48]
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mircea_popescu !up kakobrekla [18:15]
-assbot- You voiced kakobrekla without time-limit. [18:15]
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kakobrekla seems linuxporgrammer got ddosed [18:18]
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kakobrekla yeap [18:19]
mircea_popescu lol [18:19]
mircea_popescu b-a, not a channel to be treated lightly. [18:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1324 @ 0.0012 = 1.5888 BTC {2} [18:24]
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cazalla thestringpuller, lol [18:40]
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mircea_popescu so if it's wish season : i would like a giant man-eating dragonfly to ride on. [19:29]
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ben_vulpes https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B411-LBIAAA7g7O.jpg:large [20:06]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zmazhS ) [20:06]
mircea_popescu yeah, minus the part where "the collective" is made out of stupid lazy people. [20:07]
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cazalla some aussie guy goes around doing citizens arrest on uber drivers [20:29]
cazalla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvaY4Sm2KFQ [20:30]
assbot Vigilante citizen arrests Uber driver [20:30]
mircea_popescu lol [20:31]
mircea_popescu is it illegal ? [20:31]
thestringpuller Uber is technically illegal in the US, but that isn't stopping them for some reason. [20:33]
cazalla i'm not sure, but even if it is illegal, why waste your time chasing uber drivers and arresting them [20:33]
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mircea_popescu really short cock ? [20:34]
thestringpuller Same thing happened to Square in Virginia with the whole Money Transmitter License. [20:34]
thestringpuller is this why governments sue successful companies to get their cut? [20:35]
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cazalla ISIS hostage situation in Sydney today lol [20:43]
cazalla http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-clear-martin-place-after-gunman-holds-hostages-at-lindt-chocolat-cafe-20141214-127824.html [20:43]
assbot Police clear Martin Place after gunman holds hostages at Lindt Chocolat Cafe ... ( http://bit.ly/1zmdZRT ) [20:43]
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undata cazalla: is that an instagram filter on one of the pictures? [20:45]
cazalla well, assuming it's the isis flag, sorta similar https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B42kjXgCIAA6sUS.png:large [20:45]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zme8Vt ) [20:45]
thestringpuller http://www.wired.com/2014/12/t-coin/ << these articles are getting old [20:45]
cazalla undata, prob, it's popular here [20:47]
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ben_vulpes "get out in front of this" << what, get in front of the train? [20:55]
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cazalla lol they've closed the airspace over Sydney over a couple dudes in a cafe [21:12]
undata cazalla: that's how you can tell they're tough on terrorism [21:16]
undata that PM you guys have seems like the Bush from Down Under [21:16]
cazalla new PM same as old PM, all useless and illegitimate [21:17]
cazalla speaking of our PM, whoever is in the chocolate shop says they have devices planted around the city, demanding to speak to PM on live radio ha [21:22]
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BingoBoingo !up blue [21:48]
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BlueMeanie4 seasons greetings freinds [21:49]
BlueMeanie4 whats the word? [21:49]
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BingoBoingo I imagine there are a lot of words [21:52]
BlueMeanie4 what are the good ones [21:53]
BingoBoingo Puppies? [21:53]
BingoBoingo The Detroit lions tailgate, where butthole was on the menu? http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Qw_Ja3me--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/qinv93edltweelefqvyq.jpg [21:54]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1wR8gWp ) [21:54]
BlueMeanie4 im hoping this isnt the chitlins pic [21:54]
BlueMeanie4 anyway, huge frauds afoot [21:55]
BlueMeanie4 anyone in Germany? [21:55]
BingoBoingo We have enough frational germans here to assemble a whole german [21:55]
BlueMeanie4 lots of really interesting info coming out re. Tor [21:56]
BingoBoingo Yeah [21:56]
BlueMeanie4 and all the agencies surrounding this project [21:56]
BlueMeanie4 most of them are in Berlin [21:56]
BingoBoingo Well, the city has a history of that. [22:01]
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mircea_popescu speaking of our PM, whoever is in the chocolate shop says they have devices planted around the city, demanding to speak to PM on live radio ha << pretty cool. [22:40]
mircea_popescu nothing quite like a humiliated pm live by someone holding a gun. [22:40]
mircea_popescu !up hktud0 [22:41]
-assbot- You voiced hktud0 for 30 minutes. [22:41]
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cazalla mircea_popescu, he won't do it, they don't negotiate with terrorists or smething [22:44]
mircea_popescu yaya. [22:45]
mircea_popescu then they covertly pay whenever got by the balls. [22:45]
cazalla hopefully shit at the chocolate shop escalates, it's disappointing so far [22:46]
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mircea_popescu one day landwhale was off buying chocolate tubs, [22:51]
mircea_popescu then allovasudden she's held at gunpoint! [22:51]
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BingoBoingo http://christinetsai.co/post/105046916171/8-tricks-to-appear-like-an-important-vc [23:23]
assbot christine's brain • 8 Tricks to Appear Like An Important VC ... ( http://bit.ly/1BFFB4Y ) [23:23]
mircea_popescu except christine tsai is not an important vc. [23:24]
mircea_popescu she was if i recall some gofer/"product manager" for google is all. [23:25]
BingoBoingo Of course, but... When random derps on the tumblrs can spot this sort of shit. [23:25]
cazalla 7. Hold meetings at a non-mainstream coffee shop. <<< good advice [23:26]
BingoBoingo Derp X, Here's how to pretend to be the Y set of Derps. [23:26]
thestringpuller d00d [23:26]
thestringpuller read #1 and already feel like this is 8 things to not do [23:26]
thestringpuller "A surefire way to look well-connected and important is to reference reputable investors or founders by first name." that seems slightly disrespectful [23:27]
mircea_popescu someone does that about say me, everyone instantly knows he never had the good luck to be in the same room with me. [23:27]
thestringpuller Be late to meetings?!?!?!?!? [23:27]
thestringpuller what? [23:27]
mircea_popescu obviously, i'm not alone. but no, to the parallel universe puppies everyone's like... you know, them. [23:27]
BingoBoingo Well, parallel universe [23:28]
thestringpuller so apparently she manages this: http://500.co/ [23:29]
thestringpuller "Meet our badass, global family of startup founders, mentors, and investors" [23:29]
thestringpuller So YCombinator clone? [23:29]
mircea_popescu not even. it's basically a derpy website [23:31]
mircea_popescu 500pixels clone [23:31]
mircea_popescu which in turn is a deviantart clone, 10 years late. [23:31]
thestringpuller I'm looking at their alumni...and it's like... [23:31]
thestringpuller http://famebit.com/ << marketing for derps [23:32]
mircea_popescu "meet a collection of idiots from the intrernet who will think they're on a first name basis with you in spite of not actually having a bank account, and will be late to meetings at places where they can't afford to eat". [23:32]
mircea_popescu sounds like a killer value prop. [23:32]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Something has to be important or a school to have Alumni. 1950's Nasa has Alumni, random college has alumni, random wankfest does not. [23:32]
cazalla http://www.2gb.com/listen-live if ya wanna listen to drama in .au go down, apparently this radio dude has spoken to hostage holders but won't put em on the air yet [23:32]
thestringpuller Featured Wannabe Startups that were gestated in 500's accelarator is just a bit too long [23:33]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo words exist for inept marketeers to try and sell them right ? [23:33]
thestringpuller shippo has an okay value proposition but not really useful in its current incarnation [23:34]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Of course and once things that the words apply to lose any scarcity who cares about that word, next! [23:34]
* BingoBoingo remembers finding out that the Alumni association considered anyone who attended for four semesters and Alumni without any regard as to... graduation [23:35]
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thestringpuller BingoBoingo: that reminds me of huxely. Take all meaning out of a word as described in his book _Words and Their Meanings_ [23:36]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Well, the fucking french with Derrida encouraged it in the name of socialism and now social media marketers do it pretending to do capitalism. [23:37]
thestringpuller "A great deal of attention has been paid . . . to the technical languages in which men of science do their specialized thinking . But the colloquial usages of everyday speech, the literary and philosophical dialects in which men do their thinking about the problems of morals, politics, religion and psychology . these have been strangely neglected. We talk about "mere matters of words" in a tone which implies that we regard word [23:38]
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thestringpuller BingoBoingo: social media marketing has pretty much killed any respect one would get as a copywriter [23:39]
mircea_popescu quite. [23:40]
thestringpuller it's perverted the profession as a whole. [23:40]
mircea_popescu before that, amateur/gonzo porn killed any respectone would have gotten as a porn star. [23:40]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: have you seen Boogie Nights? [23:40]
mircea_popescu and even before that, "elected" derps killed any respect one could have had for leadership [23:40]
mircea_popescu i did but i didn't care so much for it. kinda plastic-y imo. [23:41]
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thestringpuller Ah. I thought it was interesting they pointed out how amateur porn destroyed the artistic nature of "old school" porn. [23:41]
mircea_popescu except their crew and screenwriters suck so bad, the old school as depicted by them is a scary abomination [23:42]
thestringpuller True. [23:42]
thestringpuller You can romantacize anything. [23:42]
mircea_popescu otherwise, the old school from deepthroat to brazzers is this kinda fun thing. [23:42]
BingoBoingo The Brazzers people have integrity to the craft. [23:43]
mircea_popescu yes, but also don't have the sort of power that had traci lords fuck dogs. [23:44]
BingoBoingo No they don't [23:44]
mircea_popescu pornography without political clout is like power tools without electricity. [23:44]
thestringpuller As mircea_popescu points out in his article on YCombinator (Facebook lining up a billion idiots of investors), I wonder if the the world Mike Judge envisioned in Idiocracy is possible. [23:44]
mircea_popescu i certainly met plnety of buttheads... [23:45]
thestringpuller Where people begin to belive the derps are professionals because no one knows any better. [23:45]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: It's largely here for a good portion of the population. The people who won't water the flowers or the garden without "Miracle Grow" and such. [23:45]
BingoBoingo Sure, fertilizer has nutrients that help plants grow, but so do last year's dead plants. [23:46]
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thestringpuller So eventually plants start dying because we water them with gatorade because "they have electrolytes". [23:46]
BingoBoingo It would be interesting if a large portion of humanity couldn't make it to the year 300 because even the corn became diabetic. [23:47]
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