Forum logs for 14 Dec 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: kawa << 'now' ? | [00:03] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Another "LISP" in jvm turd runtime | [00:04] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: well yes, but it's been around for ages. | [00:04] |
BingoBoingo | Only just learned it existed | [00:04] |
BingoBoingo | Has it? | [00:04] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: just as 'armed bear lisp' was the original commonlisp-on-jvm | [00:04] |
BingoBoingo | Ah | [00:04] |
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mircea_popescu | wait what did i do. | [00:06] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: You loved too much? | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | [00:08] | |
mircea_popescu | no fucking way ?! | [00:08] |
asciilifeform | surely mircea_popescu knew that one | [00:08] |
asciilifeform | try to recall the old life. with physics. | [00:08] |
mircea_popescu | no but srsly, no citations ? | [00:09] |
asciilifeform | aha. | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | there's no wai. i saw it cited. | [00:09] |
asciilifeform | it - was cited. but it did not cite. | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | oh oh right. | [00:10] |
BingoBoingo | Pando editor appologizes for good article http://pando.com/2014/12/09/clearing-the-air-around-tor/ | [00:15] |
assbot | Clearing the air around Tor | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1sqWr1R ) | [00:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00059364 = 5.788 BTC [-] | [00:20] |
asciilifeform | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCKg1lURSvg << bitcoin the movie ! | [00:23] |
assbot | Топор (Кацин) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1sqWYRj ) | [00:23] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00123 = 1.23 BTC [-] | [00:27] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1021 @ 0.0012 = 1.2252 BTC | [00:28] |
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BingoBoingo | OMG the laptop stays cool for youtube movies!!! | [00:32] |
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BingoBoingo | Burn the axe, it is the Axe's fault!!! | [00:40] |
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scoopbot | New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/12/ford-motor-company-bitcoin-a-trend-for-2015/ | [00:45] |
cazalla | it's sunday so whaddya want.. | [00:45] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.137 = 1.507 BTC [+] {2} | [00:47] |
BingoBoingo | Nice. FU APPLE PAY!!! You go second. | [00:48] |
BingoBoingo | I can endorse Топор as the bitcoin movie though | [00:48] |
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asciilifeform | 'Bitcoin, Apple Pay and Google Wallet' << mega-lol | [00:53] |
BingoBoingo | Neither of the latter two can fell a tree or remove a foot. | [00:54] |
cazalla | google wallet is much like google + in that i have never used nor know anyone that has used it | [00:57] |
undata | cazalla: I tried it once for the hell of it; didn't work | [00:58] |
BingoBoingo | I know people who use it, but I don't know people who know they use google wallet. | [00:58] |
undata | I slapped my phone on the card reader twice, nothing, gave up never to try again | [00:58] |
BingoBoingo | This is why if you ever trade BTC for fiat value you never trade it for less than cash in a bag. | [00:59] |
asciilifeform | http://pando.com/2014/12/10/its-time-for-tor-activists-to-stop-acting-like-the-spies-they-claim-to-hate << from earlier link | [01:05] |
assbot | It’s time for Tor activists to stop acting like the spies they claim to hate | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOcMrD ) | [01:05] |
BingoBoingo | lol | [01:05] |
undata | acting like? | [01:09] |
BingoBoingo | undata: Acting lik the adversary in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals | [01:10] |
assbot | Rules for Radicals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOdhlA ) | [01:10] |
mats | i use google wallet occasionally | [01:10] |
BingoBoingo | Aka the definitive Obola book | [01:10] |
mats | there's a nice 5% discount subsidized by google | [01:10] |
mats | after associating with my cc its even better | [01:11] |
* | asciilifeform was greatly disappointed after reading 'radicals', after mr mold's fanciful 'reviews' | [01:11] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Well, notice where the rules came from, Shitcago. | [01:12] |
undata | BingoBoingo: this is how you get poor people yelling "yes we can!" ? | [01:12] |
BingoBoingo | The "rules" achieved mass publication because they served an interest. | [01:13] |
BingoBoingo | undata: Indeed | [01:13] |
undata | or "yes we cannabis!" haha | [01:13] |
BingoBoingo | The "Rules for Radicals" consists of nothing more or less than how to scare the Dailey family into realizing it isn't all poor people who are a threat, just the black ones. | [01:14] |
BingoBoingo | And both the Daileys and Polaks were sated | [01:15] |
BingoBoingo | "Rules" solved a specifically American problem and birthed a number of other, specifically, American problems | [01:17] |
BingoBoingo | To think. If Poland would have just taken Shitcago by force we could have avoided this Obola thing. | [01:19] |
decimation | re: google wallet << turns out a guy who worked on 'google checkout' went to buy a bank in Kansas: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/12/13/small-bank-in-kansas-is-a-financial-testing-ground/?_r=0 | [01:19] |
assbot | Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1uCeMc1 ) | [01:19] |
BingoBoingo | decimation: Similarly because the people who made the Dwolla Gox-USD portal live in Iowa, Dwolla now lives off of Iowa state payments. | [01:20] |
undata | BingoBoingo: this "creating an external enemy" tactic is a classic move. | [01:20] |
BingoBoingo | undata: The thing is enemies differ. Flu virus is a different enemy than Saddam is a different enemy than a mugger. In the cases of the latter two either could be turned friend. If either was turned friend that value of each differs on orders of magnitude. | [01:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19602 @ 0.00056698 = 11.1139 BTC [-] {2} | [01:22] |
decimation | well, the nyt story and his website mention nothing about bitcoin, so he's just an anklebiter | [01:22] |
decimation | re: ford motor company << http://www.computerworld.com/article/2859373/ford-dumps-microsoft-for-qnx-unleashes-new-functions-in-sync-v3.html Ford dumped microshit for QNX, a proper RTOS, and apparently the 'infotainment' system works much better now | [01:23] |
assbot | Ford dumps Microsoft for QNX, unleashes new functions in Sync v3 | Computerworld ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOeIk8 ) | [01:23] |
undata | BingoBoingo: what is the strategy behind creating a "jews" and then turning them into your friend? | [01:24] |
undata | or have I missed the point? | [01:24] |
asciilifeform | 'open-source QNX platform' << lol. nope. | [01:25] |
cazalla | dwolla is a name that seemed to jump the shark for web 2.0 names | [01:25] |
asciilifeform | basic 'homework' fail. | [01:25] |
BingoBoingo | undata: There can be plenty ask Lockheed Martin and how much they've made this decade. | [01:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14390 @ 0.00058213 = 8.3769 BTC [+] {2} | [01:25] |
undata | BingoBoingo: ah I see what you're saying now | [01:25] |
decimation | asciilifeform: yeah, 'journalism' | [01:25] |
asciilifeform | 'dwolla' and its 'african' consonant cluster seems tailor-made to conjure up images of nigerian spam. | [01:25] |
undata | a "managed" enemy | [01:25] |
BingoBoingo | undata: Or managed ally. Anything to open the faucet. | [01:26] |
BingoBoingo | The story of rules is finding common enemies or allies and then applying leverage by derping loudly in numbers until people neglect history. | [01:27] |
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BingoBoingo | !up badon | [01:31] |
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BingoBoingo | badon: How does collecting the shinies go? | [01:31] |
badon | hi BingoBoingo | [01:32] |
badon | BingoBoingo: It's getting pretty exciting from my point of view. | [01:32] |
badon | BingoBoingo: I think the way it's going to go this time around is exactly the same as every other time. First, the precious metals will move (they're dirt cheap now), then the coins. | [01:32] |
badon | I'm considering buying silver bullion for the first time since 2008. | [01:32] |
BingoBoingo | I got fucked in rhodium 2007-2010 | [01:33] |
badon | Yeah, I avoided rhodium, it was far too expensive. | [01:33] |
BingoBoingo | I have the most sparkling asshole to this day. | [01:33] |
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badon | I wrote articles recommending palladium and ruthenium. Both performed very well. | [01:34] |
badon | Right now, I would consider buying palladium again, but silver is much more liquid and reliable as an investment. | [01:34] |
undata | I also bought silver in 08 | [01:34] |
BingoBoingo | I always recomend plutonium | [01:34] |
badon | undata: You did well. | [01:35] |
BingoBoingo | I also got fucked in 2013 trading BTC for Silver. | [01:35] |
badon | oops | [01:35] |
badon | Hard assets have all been hurting since 2011. | [01:35] |
badon | Inflation has been too low. | [01:35] |
badon | I need to write another article. | [01:35] |
BingoBoingo | It's amazing though how much people complain about tungsten filled bars and yet the value of tungsten endures. | [01:35] |
badon | Dang, not enough time for everything. | [01:35] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [01:35] |
badon | This is important though, because I've got predictive powah. | [01:36] |
badon | I've never "invested" in gold bullion. I've bought rare gold coins, and I've flipped gold, but I've never held raw bullion as an investment. | [01:36] |
badon | Although gold is very liquid, for the amounts of money I typically deal with, I prefer food and cash instead. | [01:37] |
BingoBoingo | That confuses me. SO you've bought a bunch of sausage, but never tasted the delicious pork in itself? | [01:37] |
badon | For more money, then I start looking toward the rare coins. | [01:37] |
badon | I just always skip gold. | [01:37] |
badon | No, I eat the food. | [01:37] |
badon | I don't sell it. | [01:37] |
decimation | how do you distinguish 'cash' and 'gold' | [01:38] |
badon | I just hoard it when it's cheap, and stop buying when it's expensive or there's a shortage. | [01:38] |
badon | decimation: cash is always fiat, usually USD or EUR. | [01:38] |
badon | I suppose bitcoin would qualify now too, but Idon't have any. | [01:38] |
badon | Actually, I probably do have some bitcoin laying around here somewhere... | [01:39] |
BingoBoingo | https://twitter.com/balajis follows the villian simon from 27bslash6.com | [01:39] |
assbot | Balaji S. Srinivasan (@balajis) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOgpxP ) | [01:39] |
mats | much love from america in 12/13/14 | [01:39] |
decimation | an auspicious date indeed | [01:39] |
mats | i nearly missed it | [01:40] |
cazalla | [01:41] | |
BingoBoingo | cazalla: I did, but I'm not sure what that means in new pokemon. I know it exists. Not to what extent. | [01:42] |
mats | http://aljazeera.com/story/20141213232733114428 | [01:42] |
assbot | Page not found - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/1uCjabd ) | [01:42] |
mats | http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2014/12/japan-votes-with-abe-set-super-majority-20141213232733114428.html | [01:42] |
assbot | Japan votes with Abe set for 'super majority' - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English | [01:42] |
mats | http://cybersecurity.upv.es/attacks/offset2lib/offset2lib.html | [01:45] |
assbot | Offset2lib: bypassing full ASLR on 64bit Linux ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOh4iM ) | [01:45] |
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decimation | so the S&P500 fell ~4% this week because oil is getting cheaper, even for companies that would obviously benefit | [01:51] |
asciilifeform | aslr bypass << snore. if this matters, one has more serious problem. | [01:54] |
decimation | asciilifeform: I think the impulse for 'defense in depth' is a good one, the problem is that it simply isn't possible on the von neumann machine | [01:55] |
mats | harvard arch isn't invulnerable, you know | [01:55] |
asciilifeform | mats, decimation: i don't like referring to the 'von neumann machine' for this reason | [01:56] |
asciilifeform | it is not anything like a complete identification of the retardation of the past 25 years of computer. | [01:56] |
decimation | yeah, I understand, the terminology is ambiguous | [01:57] |
decimation | mats, the issue is explained in ascii's "bedrock" essay | [01:58] |
asciilifeform | actually, my most complete attempt at explanation was here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284 | [01:58] |
assbot | Loper OS » Seven Laws of Sane Personal Computing ... ( http://bit.ly/1uCmhzM ) | [01:59] |
asciilifeform | the basic idea being that a computer's owner should be able -and expected- to understand every aspect of every part in the machine (whether physical or logical) - and that everything about the design should be thought of with the purpose, above all others, of making this possible. | [02:00] |
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BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: The sad think is plenty of people fit that mold... for the NES! | [02:03] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: this is called 'degenerate case' | [02:04] |
asciilifeform | see the lisp brick article, etc. | [02:04] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Of course. NES is a brick, but people still program for it because it offers the thigns you value. | [02:05] |
asciilifeform | anyone ever fit a keyboard to nes/snes ? | [02:05] |
cazalla | mouse for mario paint, that count? | [02:07] |
decimation | I think the japanese versions of the nes had keyboards if I recall | [02:07] |
cazalla | not ps/2 so prob not eh | [02:08] |
asciilifeform | of whatever variety. | [02:08] |
asciilifeform | and what of persistent storage ? | [02:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00059364 = 4.9272 BTC [+] | [02:10] |
decimation | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_BASIC | [02:10] |
assbot | Family BASIC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1uColYH ) | [02:10] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Ah, it fails on those rules. It wins though on being known and documented. | [02:10] |
asciilifeform | so does brick. | [02:10] |
decimation | it would be mildly amusing to play with the nes BASIC cartridge | [02:10] |
asciilifeform | the machine of roughly the same period as nes but with 'adult' i/o was 'commodore 64.' | [02:11] |
asciilifeform | i had one. | [02:11] |
asciilifeform | came with a book that described approximately everything there was to know about it. | [02:11] |
decimation | I missed out on that generation, my first computer was an x86 a few years later | [02:11] |
asciilifeform | it was what my family could afford when we came to usa. | [02:12] |
decimation | apparently commodore used to make its own chips, in its own fab facility | [02:12] |
asciilifeform | heavily used and many years old already when we bought it. | [02:12] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform> the machine of roughly the same period as nes but with 'adult' i/o was 'commodore 64.' << Immature criticism, but not everyone likes semen | [02:13] |
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asciilifeform | l0l | [02:13] |
BingoBoingo | Commodore was doomed by its name | [02:14] |
asciilifeform | iirc tramiel named it after a car that existed in his times | [02:14] |
asciilifeform | rather than the nautical title directly | [02:14] |
asciilifeform | !s tramiel | [02:14] |
assbot | 7 results for 'tramiel' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tramiel | [02:14] |
BingoBoingo | Sure, but is there a more ill thought out field than car naming is USia? | [02:14] |
asciilifeform | ^ colourful character | [02:14] |
decimation | yeah tramiel was commodore, when he left the thing tanked. it's a shame, they had a real shot at being an 'alternative' to intel | [02:15] |
asciilifeform | intel and microshit together were the inheritors of the ancient evil ibm monopoly. | [02:16] |
asciilifeform | i.e. the full force of usg. | [02:16] |
decimation | ibm being too stupid to keeps its monopoly | [02:16] |
BingoBoingo | https://twitter.com/oakmarie/status/543996472279457792 | [02:16] |
assbot | Uplifted by massive numbers who marched peacefully today in /hashtag/Oakland?src=hash, then disheartened again when it turns to smashy. /hashtag/MessageDiluted?src=hash | [02:16] |
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mircea_popescu | it occurs to me, the entire "we would have fired some guy that doesn't even actually work for us because he wouldn't clog up the pull tree with documentation-gender-improvements" is quite positive proof nobody has any actual work to do. | [02:22] |
mircea_popescu | i mean... it's there, plain as day. "we don't do anything useful anyway". | [02:22] |
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BingoBoingo | !up Vexual | [02:24] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Sure | [02:24] |
BingoBoingo | It is the epitome of it. | [02:24] |
mircea_popescu | pretty much. | [02:24] |
BingoBoingo | Engrave this in stone: @oakmarie | [02:25] |
BingoBoingo | Follow Follow | [02:25] |
BingoBoingo | [02:25] | |
BingoBoingo | @BBoingo @cfarivar A cow matters too! | [02:25] |
BingoBoingo | A cow matters too... | [02:25] |
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BingoBoingo | Not that cheese isn't great or that sour milk products don't matter. That a cow matters in a revolution. | [02:27] |
Vexual | I've always thought those nintendo famicons were designed to mould future alcoholic salarymen | [02:27] |
Vexual | put a keyboard anywhere near the thing you'll need a drink | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu | lol srsly all this thrid wave us socialist press attempts to reduce the discussion to their categories. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | seriously, guardian accused pando of "cyberbullying" ? | [02:31] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: You mean third world. | [02:31] |
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BingoBoingo | There is no wave. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | no such thing exists. tor is and was a usg hole long before pando sort-of read it in trilema. etc. | [02:31] |
BingoBoingo | !up olo_ | [02:31] |
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BingoBoingo | No wave at all, just ripples. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | whatever they are. | [02:31] |
BingoBoingo | Just noise on the surface of the water. Snowden was a wave. | [02:32] |
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mircea_popescu | i mean, guardian was lulzy enough with its pretense to relevancy. but pando for crissakes ? | [02:32] |
BingoBoingo | He wided some villages, eroded some sand. | [02:32] |
mircea_popescu | what's next, someone's tuna can ? | [02:32] |
BingoBoingo | Just the continuing shrinking drama, is ripples | [02:32] |
BingoBoingo | Not even countable in their insignificance | [02:32] |
mircea_popescu | it is very altcoin-scammy in its development i gotta grant you that. | [02:32] |
mircea_popescu | from the new york times to the guardian to basically facebook pages. | [02:33] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: The pando editor is joining the derps because he author was called out for being right in every way. | [02:33] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla: dwolla is a name that seemed to jump the shark for web 2.0 names <<< just about when "cutesy" died. | [02:33] |
BingoBoingo | If it isn't altcoin drama I dunno what is. | [02:34] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo im not even discussing the content, which is banal. | [02:34] |
mircea_popescu | im more interested in the form, they're still usign the same hearts-pattern crinkly paper ? | [02:34] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: I was still stuck on the form as well, and yes. It is arts and crafts time | [02:35] |
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BingoBoingo | Oh, what a time for freenode to netsplit. | [02:35] |
BingoBoingo | What a fucking time for a netsplit. | [02:35] |
Vexual | lol, everyone picked up their clams? the price is up | [02:35] |
mircea_popescu | badon: Inflation has been too low. < o.O | [02:36] |
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decimation | freenode fails ascii's law #5 for reliability | [02:41] |
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mircea_popescu | im not sure you can expect of networks what you can expect of computers. | [02:43] |
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decimation | this is true, but it could reveal what exactly is going on | [02:43] |
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Vexual | needs moar raspiis | [02:44] |
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decimation | asciilifeform: thinking about your law #4, the reason why "CISC vs RISC" ended up with RISC winning is because the CISC 'language' was retarded | [02:47] |
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cazalla | we're back | [02:52] |
Vexual | did you see the green flash? | [02:53] |
Vexual | white light, whatever it is | [02:54] |
cazalla | nope, tabbed | [02:54] |
Vexual | anyone on the western longs got a clear view of the sky tonight? | [02:54] |
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Vexual | supposed to be some asteroid dust entering | [02:55] |
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decimation | cazalla: I just looked outside here, it's a clear sky but I didn't see any meteors yet | [03:01] |
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cazalla | same here, sunny, hot as fuck | [03:02] |
Vexual | lol | [03:02] |
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mircea_popescu | !up huseby | [03:07] |
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* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [09:40] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com | [09:40] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014 | [09:40] |
-assbot- | Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. | [09:40] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;bc,stats | [09:41] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 334276 | Current Difficulty: 4.000747027127126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 334655 | Next Difficulty In: 379 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 18 hours, 34 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [09:41] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [09:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12340 @ 0.00058415 = 7.2084 BTC [-] | [09:46] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2324 @ 0.00122899 = 2.8562 BTC [+] {3} | [10:01] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1667 @ 0.0012 = 2.0004 BTC | [10:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00061574 = 8.4664 BTC [+] | [10:05] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10428 @ 0.00061836 = 6.4483 BTC [+] {2} | [10:21] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00062184 = 21.7644 BTC [+] {5} | [10:25] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00062799 = 26.3756 BTC [+] {2} | [10:55] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2375 @ 0.0012 = 2.85 BTC | [11:05] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4166 @ 0.0012 = 4.9992 BTC | [11:23] |
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mircea_popescu | !up snowfall | [11:41] |
-assbot- | You voiced snowfall for 30 minutes. | [11:41] |
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snowfall | thanks. | [11:41] |
mircea_popescu | sure. who're you ? | [11:42] |
snowfall | I'm an investor who has been following your blog | [11:43] |
snowfall | Decided to come in for a bit | [11:43] |
mircea_popescu | cheers. | [11:43] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1000 @ 0.0012 = 1.2 BTC | [11:44] |
mircea_popescu | ;;bc,stats | [11:44] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 334290 | Current Difficulty: 4.000747027127126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 334655 | Next Difficulty In: 365 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 15 hours, 28 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 39485520463.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.30463 | [11:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39038 @ 0.00058047 = 22.6604 BTC [-] {2} | [11:45] |
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scoopbot | New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/time-to-recouperate-this-chauvinism-thing/ | [11:54] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00056085 = 5.1598 BTC [-] | [12:06] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43219 @ 0.00058067 = 25.096 BTC [+] {2} | [12:11] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2628 @ 0.0012 = 3.1536 BTC | [12:39] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00062906 = 3.8687 BTC [+] | [12:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00062045 = 6.2045 BTC [-] | [13:41] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24919 @ 0.00060614 = 15.1044 BTC [-] {2} | [14:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0006145 = 4.7009 BTC [+] | [14:12] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.12401162 = 1.2401 BTC [-] | [14:13] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.12401162 = 1.4881 BTC [-] | [14:15] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00061943 = 4.7696 BTC [+] {2} | [14:38] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.12401162 = 2.4802 BTC [-] | [14:40] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.12500001 = 3.75 BTC [+] | [14:50] |
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mats | hmm, i just noticed i have a what.cd invite | [14:53] |
mats | anyone want it? | [14:53] |
ben_vulpes | sure | [14:54] |
ben_vulpes | it's nigh impossible to get any seeed on the public w4r3znet these days | [14:55] |
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mats | pm email | [14:56] |
ben_vulpes | ;;ident | [14:58] |
gribble | Nick 'ben_vulpes', with hostmask 'ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'ben_vulpes', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None | [14:58] |
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asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: w4r3z << http://rutracker.org is pretty good | [15:05] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/12Olrta ) | [15:05] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 874 @ 0.0012 = 1.0488 BTC | [15:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00062045 = 9.8031 BTC [+] | [15:25] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2731 @ 0.00060203 = 1.6441 BTC [-] {3} | [15:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46213 @ 0.00058081 = 26.841 BTC [-] {2} | [15:29] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00057668 = 6.8625 BTC [-] | [15:47] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 3966 @ 0.0012 = 4.7592 BTC {2} | [15:52] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1211 @ 0.0012 = 1.4532 BTC {2} | [16:02] |
thestringpuller | cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2p9ctz/ford_motor_company_bitcoin_a_trend_for_2015/cmuj9va "I came here for the bunny" | [16:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11046 @ 0.00057527 = 6.3544 BTC [-] | [16:07] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 850 @ 0.0012 = 1.02 BTC | [16:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80872 @ 0.00056382 = 45.5973 BTC [-] {4} | [16:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3688 @ 0.00062045 = 2.2882 BTC [+] | [16:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8373 @ 0.00063002 = 5.2752 BTC [+] {2} | [16:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62053 @ 0.00063236 = 39.2398 BTC [+] {6} | [16:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13779 @ 0.00063598 = 8.7632 BTC [+] | [16:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16278 @ 0.00063598 = 10.3525 BTC [+] | [16:46] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00063598 = 21.6869 BTC [+] | [17:11] |
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kakobrekla | what.cd < you dont know what impossible means until you try to seed there | [17:20] |
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kakobrekla | >This [invite] tree has 1,062 entries, 254 branches, and a depth of 7. It has 769 Users (72%), 221 Members (21%), 62 Power Users (6%), 9 Elites (1%) and 1 Elite TM (0%). 595 users are disabled (56%), and 102 users have donated (10%). | [17:25] |
kakobrekla | now, rather than inviting, i just dl stuff for others instead. | [17:25] |
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mircea_popescu | srsly, that bad ? | [17:31] |
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kakobrekla | aha | [17:31] |
fluffypony | well that was fun | [17:31] |
fluffypony | ~10 hours of DDoS from here | [17:32] |
kakobrekla | Seeders: 14,936,238 | [17:32] |
kakobrekla | Leechers: 193,624 | [17:32] |
kakobrekla | now compete with gbps seedboxes | [17:32] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [17:33] |
mats | tis a special place | [17:33] |
mircea_popescu | so basically it is now impossible to use torrents because too many people seed ? | [17:33] |
fluffypony | yeah | [17:33] |
kakobrekla | on some private trackers, prolly what is not the only one, but i dunno for sure. | [17:33] |
mircea_popescu | nuts. wd riaa/mpaa, lol. | [17:34] |
mats | you're incentivized to find new stuff or seed the newest stuff | [17:34] |
mircea_popescu | "incentivized". in point of fact they can dld it off you and seed themselves. | [17:34] |
mats | i ran a script to grab 0sec releases to keep my ratio up | [17:34] |
mircea_popescu | you're incentivized to have fast fat pipe is all. | [17:35] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1666 @ 0.0012 = 1.9992 BTC | [17:35] |
kakobrekla | nah | [17:35] |
kakobrekla | for example, at one time i had over 1k torrents seeding on a 5mbit upload line, unused. | [17:35] |
kakobrekla | the. line. was. idling. | [17:35] |
mircea_popescu | nuts. | [17:37] |
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kakobrekla | upon reading pms on the tracker, seems someone filled a request for me a month ago. | [17:45] |
kakobrekla | one i made 6 years ago and put 1gig of bounty on it. | [17:45] |
kakobrekla | nfi what it is, must be good. | [17:45] |
mircea_popescu | kik | [17:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.13899999 = 1.39 BTC [+] {2} | [17:48] |
kakobrekla | normally when you place a gig or so, people will go to store, buy the cd, rip it to your specification, fill the request and get the bounty | [17:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00063598 = 20.7647 BTC [+] | [18:08] |
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kakobrekla | !up huseby | [18:14] |
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kakobrekla | !up huseby | [18:15] |
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mircea_popescu | !up kakobrekla | [18:15] |
-assbot- | You voiced kakobrekla without time-limit. | [18:15] |
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kakobrekla | seems linuxporgrammer got ddosed | [18:18] |
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kakobrekla | yeap | [18:19] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [18:19] |
mircea_popescu | b-a, not a channel to be treated lightly. | [18:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1324 @ 0.0012 = 1.5888 BTC {2} | [18:24] |
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cazalla | thestringpuller, lol | [18:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00062577 = 18.0222 BTC [-] | [18:44] |
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mircea_popescu | so if it's wish season : i would like a giant man-eating dragonfly to ride on. | [19:29] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00062727 = 8.0604 BTC [+] | [19:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00062727 = 4.7045 BTC [+] | [20:00] |
ben_vulpes | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B411-LBIAAA7g7O.jpg:large | [20:06] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1zmazhS ) | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, minus the part where "the collective" is made out of stupid lazy people. | [20:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13017 @ 0.00061505 = 8.0061 BTC [-] {2} | [20:16] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 999 @ 0.0012 = 1.1988 BTC | [20:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39549 @ 0.00060924 = 24.0948 BTC [-] {2} | [20:28] |
cazalla | some aussie guy goes around doing citizens arrest on uber drivers | [20:29] |
cazalla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvaY4Sm2KFQ | [20:30] |
assbot | Vigilante citizen arrests Uber driver | [20:30] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | is it illegal ? | [20:31] |
thestringpuller | Uber is technically illegal in the US, but that isn't stopping them for some reason. | [20:33] |
cazalla | i'm not sure, but even if it is illegal, why waste your time chasing uber drivers and arresting them | [20:33] |
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mircea_popescu | really short cock ? | [20:34] |
thestringpuller | Same thing happened to Square in Virginia with the whole Money Transmitter License. | [20:34] |
thestringpuller | is this why governments sue successful companies to get their cut? | [20:35] |
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cazalla | ISIS hostage situation in Sydney today lol | [20:43] |
cazalla | http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-clear-martin-place-after-gunman-holds-hostages-at-lindt-chocolat-cafe-20141214-127824.html | [20:43] |
assbot | Police clear Martin Place after gunman holds hostages at Lindt Chocolat Cafe ... ( http://bit.ly/1zmdZRT ) | [20:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00055902 = 5.8138 BTC [-] {4} | [20:45] |
undata | cazalla: is that an instagram filter on one of the pictures? | [20:45] |
cazalla | well, assuming it's the isis flag, sorta similar https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B42kjXgCIAA6sUS.png:large | [20:45] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1zme8Vt ) | [20:45] |
thestringpuller | http://www.wired.com/2014/12/t-coin/ << these articles are getting old | [20:45] |
cazalla | undata, prob, it's popular here | [20:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34370 @ 0.00056739 = 19.5012 BTC [+] | [20:53] |
ben_vulpes | "get out in front of this" << what, get in front of the train? | [20:55] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23434 @ 0.00056739 = 13.2962 BTC [+] | [21:11] |
cazalla | lol they've closed the airspace over Sydney over a couple dudes in a cafe | [21:12] |
undata | cazalla: that's how you can tell they're tough on terrorism | [21:16] |
undata | that PM you guys have seems like the Bush from Down Under | [21:16] |
cazalla | new PM same as old PM, all useless and illegitimate | [21:17] |
cazalla | speaking of our PM, whoever is in the chocolate shop says they have devices planted around the city, demanding to speak to PM on live radio ha | [21:22] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00057526 = 11.5627 BTC [+] | [21:30] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16491 @ 0.00058644 = 9.671 BTC [+] | [21:34] |
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BingoBoingo | !up blue | [21:48] |
BingoBoingo | !up BlueMeanie4 | [21:49] |
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BlueMeanie4 | seasons greetings freinds | [21:49] |
BlueMeanie4 | whats the word? | [21:49] |
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BingoBoingo | I imagine there are a lot of words | [21:52] |
BlueMeanie4 | what are the good ones | [21:53] |
BingoBoingo | Puppies? | [21:53] |
BingoBoingo | The Detroit lions tailgate, where butthole was on the menu? http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Qw_Ja3me--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/qinv93edltweelefqvyq.jpg | [21:54] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1wR8gWp ) | [21:54] |
BlueMeanie4 | im hoping this isnt the chitlins pic | [21:54] |
BlueMeanie4 | anyway, huge frauds afoot | [21:55] |
BlueMeanie4 | anyone in Germany? | [21:55] |
BingoBoingo | We have enough frational germans here to assemble a whole german | [21:55] |
BlueMeanie4 | lots of really interesting info coming out re. Tor | [21:56] |
BingoBoingo | Yeah | [21:56] |
BlueMeanie4 | and all the agencies surrounding this project | [21:56] |
BlueMeanie4 | most of them are in Berlin | [21:56] |
BingoBoingo | Well, the city has a history of that. | [22:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6857 @ 0.00057174 = 3.9204 BTC [-] {2} | [22:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42952 @ 0.00055827 = 23.9788 BTC [-] | [22:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40600 @ 0.00057504 = 23.3466 BTC [+] {2} | [22:28] |
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[]bot | Bet placed: 200.00017 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 46(Y):54(N) by weight. Total bet: 4039.30800444 BTC. Current weight: 18,465. | [22:37] |
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mircea_popescu | nothing quite like a humiliated pm live by someone holding a gun. | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | !up hktud0 | [22:41] |
-assbot- | You voiced hktud0 for 30 minutes. | [22:41] |
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cazalla | mircea_popescu, he won't do it, they don't negotiate with terrorists or smething | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | yaya. | [22:45] |
mircea_popescu | then they covertly pay whenever got by the balls. | [22:45] |
cazalla | hopefully shit at the chocolate shop escalates, it's disappointing so far | [22:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5009 @ 0.00059107 = 2.9607 BTC [+] | [22:51] |
mircea_popescu | one day landwhale was off buying chocolate tubs, | [22:51] |
mircea_popescu | then allovasudden she's held at gunpoint! | [22:51] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16841 @ 0.0006135 = 10.332 BTC [+] | [23:17] |
BingoBoingo | http://christinetsai.co/post/105046916171/8-tricks-to-appear-like-an-important-vc | [23:23] |
assbot | christine's brain • 8 Tricks to Appear Like An Important VC ... ( http://bit.ly/1BFFB4Y ) | [23:23] |
mircea_popescu | except christine tsai is not an important vc. | [23:24] |
mircea_popescu | she was if i recall some gofer/"product manager" for google is all. | [23:25] |
BingoBoingo | Of course, but... When random derps on the tumblrs can spot this sort of shit. | [23:25] |
cazalla | 7. Hold meetings at a non-mainstream coffee shop. <<< good advice | [23:26] |
BingoBoingo | Derp X, Here's how to pretend to be the Y set of Derps. | [23:26] |
thestringpuller | d00d | [23:26] |
thestringpuller | read #1 and already feel like this is 8 things to not do | [23:26] |
thestringpuller | "A surefire way to look well-connected and important is to reference reputable investors or founders by first name." that seems slightly disrespectful | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | someone does that about say me, everyone instantly knows he never had the good luck to be in the same room with me. | [23:27] |
thestringpuller | Be late to meetings?!?!?!?!? | [23:27] |
thestringpuller | what? | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | obviously, i'm not alone. but no, to the parallel universe puppies everyone's like... you know, them. | [23:27] |
BingoBoingo | Well, parallel universe | [23:28] |
thestringpuller | so apparently she manages this: http://500.co/ | [23:29] |
thestringpuller | "Meet our badass, global family of startup founders, mentors, and investors" | [23:29] |
thestringpuller | So YCombinator clone? | [23:29] |
mircea_popescu | not even. it's basically a derpy website | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | 500pixels clone | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | which in turn is a deviantart clone, 10 years late. | [23:31] |
thestringpuller | I'm looking at their alumni...and it's like... | [23:31] |
thestringpuller | http://famebit.com/ << marketing for derps | [23:32] |
mircea_popescu | "meet a collection of idiots from the intrernet who will think they're on a first name basis with you in spite of not actually having a bank account, and will be late to meetings at places where they can't afford to eat". | [23:32] |
mircea_popescu | sounds like a killer value prop. | [23:32] |
BingoBoingo | thestringpuller: Something has to be important or a school to have Alumni. 1950's Nasa has Alumni, random college has alumni, random wankfest does not. | [23:32] |
cazalla | http://www.2gb.com/listen-live if ya wanna listen to drama in .au go down, apparently this radio dude has spoken to hostage holders but won't put em on the air yet | [23:32] |
thestringpuller | Featured Wannabe Startups that were gestated in 500's accelarator is just a bit too long | [23:33] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo words exist for inept marketeers to try and sell them right ? | [23:33] |
thestringpuller | shippo has an okay value proposition but not really useful in its current incarnation | [23:34] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Of course and once things that the words apply to lose any scarcity who cares about that word, next! | [23:34] |
* | BingoBoingo remembers finding out that the Alumni association considered anyone who attended for four semesters and Alumni without any regard as to... graduation | [23:35] |
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thestringpuller | BingoBoingo: that reminds me of huxely. Take all meaning out of a word as described in his book _Words and Their Meanings_ | [23:36] |
BingoBoingo | thestringpuller: Well, the fucking french with Derrida encouraged it in the name of socialism and now social media marketers do it pretending to do capitalism. | [23:37] |
thestringpuller | "A great deal of attention has been paid . . . to the technical languages in which men of science do their specialized thinking . But the colloquial usages of everyday speech, the literary and philosophical dialects in which men do their thinking about the problems of morals, politics, religion and psychology . these have been strangely neglected. We talk about "mere matters of words" in a tone which implies that we regard word | [23:38] |
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thestringpuller | BingoBoingo: social media marketing has pretty much killed any respect one would get as a copywriter | [23:39] |
mircea_popescu | quite. | [23:40] |
thestringpuller | it's perverted the profession as a whole. | [23:40] |
mircea_popescu | before that, amateur/gonzo porn killed any respectone would have gotten as a porn star. | [23:40] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: have you seen Boogie Nights? | [23:40] |
mircea_popescu | and even before that, "elected" derps killed any respect one could have had for leadership | [23:40] |
mircea_popescu | i did but i didn't care so much for it. kinda plastic-y imo. | [23:41] |
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thestringpuller | Ah. I thought it was interesting they pointed out how amateur porn destroyed the artistic nature of "old school" porn. | [23:41] |
mircea_popescu | except their crew and screenwriters suck so bad, the old school as depicted by them is a scary abomination | [23:42] |
thestringpuller | True. | [23:42] |
thestringpuller | You can romantacize anything. | [23:42] |
mircea_popescu | otherwise, the old school from deepthroat to brazzers is this kinda fun thing. | [23:42] |
BingoBoingo | The Brazzers people have integrity to the craft. | [23:43] |
mircea_popescu | yes, but also don't have the sort of power that had traci lords fuck dogs. | [23:44] |
BingoBoingo | No they don't | [23:44] |
mircea_popescu | pornography without political clout is like power tools without electricity. | [23:44] |
thestringpuller | As mircea_popescu points out in his article on YCombinator (Facebook lining up a billion idiots of investors), I wonder if the the world Mike Judge envisioned in Idiocracy is possible. | [23:44] |
mircea_popescu | i certainly met plnety of buttheads... | [23:45] |
thestringpuller | Where people begin to belive the derps are professionals because no one knows any better. | [23:45] |
BingoBoingo | thestringpuller: It's largely here for a good portion of the population. The people who won't water the flowers or the garden without "Miracle Grow" and such. | [23:45] |
BingoBoingo | Sure, fertilizer has nutrients that help plants grow, but so do last year's dead plants. | [23:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00059966 = 5.367 BTC [-] | [23:46] |
thestringpuller | So eventually plants start dying because we water them with gatorade because "they have electrolytes". | [23:46] |
BingoBoingo | It would be interesting if a large portion of humanity couldn't make it to the year 300 because even the corn became diabetic. | [23:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40293 @ 0.00059536 = 23.9888 BTC [-] {2} | [23:56] |
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