Forum logs for 13 Jul 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

artifexd	I know mpex went down due to hard drive issues. Isn't it back up? I haven't seen any mpex trades in a few days.	[00:02]
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benkay	http://www.designboom.com/technology/airtype-keyless-bluetooth-keyboard-07-11-2014/	[00:46]
assbot	AirType keyless bluetooth keyboard fits in the palm of your hand	[00:46]
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mircea_popescu	artifexd not yet	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	changing a bunch of stuff.	[00:58]
artifexd	aok	[00:58]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2agpe1/is_there_a_site_for_betting_on_sports_games_with/ reddit knows	[01:02]
assbot	Is there a site for betting on sports games with BTC? : Bitcoin	[01:02]
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midnightmagic	mikaeldice MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio_	[01:17]
midnightmagic	mikaeldice MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio_	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	;;seen mike_c	[01:17]
gribble	mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 2 hours, 49 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: and a gentleman	[01:17]
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asciilifeform	benkay: terrible idea. just like touch screen keyboards (or that israeli firm that made a 'laser' keyboard drawn on table.)	[01:20]
asciilifeform	why does this crud appear again and again? no one heard of 'gorilla arm syndrome' and the like?	[01:21]
asciilifeform	fingers need mechanical feedback	[01:23]
asciilifeform	(not only for pleasure, but to absorb impact.)	[01:23]
asciilifeform	people seem intent on discovering new classes of 'repetitive' injury.	[01:23]
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benkay	they keypress is required to prevent bruising?	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	benkay paradoxically, yes.	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	try punching as hard as you can in the air, see what happens.	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	same mechanics apply to finger movement too.	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	if there isn't a face there to stop your fist, your arm has to do it. and it's not really equipped or designed for such.	[01:30]
benkay	certainly, but if one's tapping on the table?	[01:32]
mircea_popescu	then there's the table. i thought this was supposed to be mid air tho	[01:32]
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benkay	"virtually any surface, or none at all."	[01:33]
thestringpuller	http://bitcoin.equipment/	[01:35]
thestringpuller	didn't even know .equipment was a valid suffix	[01:36]
benkay	thestringpuller: i want man.systems	[01:37]
mircea_popescu	sissy.systems	[01:37]
benkay	http://dumb.domains/	[01:38]
assbot	DUMB.domains	[01:38]
benkay	wank.holiday	[01:38]
mircea_popescu	actually that site is pretty good thestringpuller	[01:39]
thestringpuller	redditards deliver sometimes I s'pose	[01:40]
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mircea_popescu	this has sa/buttcoins all over it.	[01:41]
mircea_popescu	basically, there are some competent redditards. they're the people who came to reddit to hide among the redditards.	[01:41]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 176 @ 0.00402999 = 0.7093 BTC [+]	[02:09]
mircea_popescu	anyone wanna code me a website ?	[02:10]
kakobrekla	what, you mean like css?	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	nah	[02:21]
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mircea_popescu	im toying with the general idea of distributed effort to destroy social media. this'd be an experiment in that sense.	[02:21]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell hanbot remember the guy that sent a complaint to spanish police (where he was at the time being an romanian temp worker) that mtgox won't send him proof of its id ? he's dead.	[02:49]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[02:49]
benkay	social. yum.	[02:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 116 @ 0.01635687 = 1.8974 BTC [+] {12}	[02:50]
mircea_popescu	benkay all these broken wots everyone's implemented.	[02:52]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=47057 << if anyone's curious how the entire bitcoin-by-country irc nonsense got started.	[02:55]
assbot	Bitcointa.lk: the Bitcointalk community with a proper forum \| Bitcointa.lk	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	tl;dr: shut-in (mizeridearia) got bored one day.	[02:55]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 49 @ 0.0141001 = 0.6909 BTC [-]	[03:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.01679599 = 0.5039 BTC [+] {3}	[03:24]
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mircea_popescu	looking at this data, bitcoin is just about the largest one thing on freenode.	[03:40]
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mike_c	what's bigger?	[03:43]
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mircea_popescu	depends how you count, but not really much.	[03:46]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/medien-mehr-als-ein-dutzend-spione-in-ministerien-13042586.html	[03:47]
assbot	Medien: Mehr als ein Dutzend Spione in Ministerien	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	apparently zee germans found some spies	[03:47]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c the best part is where wikipedia and darkcoin are about the same size.	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	lulzy mcloll.	[03:53]
mike_c	wow	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	a little ahead of... dwarf frothress	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	or w/e the pixel fountain is called.	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	and since we're on the lulz,	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	"Built and operated in the United States, Bittrex is the next generation crypto trading platform created by security professionals. We are crypto-coin enthusiasts bringing more than 50 years of combined security and development experience to the trading community from companies, including Microsoft, Amazon, Qualys, and BlackBerry.	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	Given the recent security breaches and reliability issues experienced by other markets, we felt the community deserved better. If virtual currencies are to truly take off, trustworthy infrastructure is a prerequisite."	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	* Topic for #bittrex is: richie doesn't know how to send emails OR use topics...	[03:59]
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mircea_popescu	!up BayAreaCoins	[04:01]
-assbot-	You voiced BayAreaCoins for 30 minutes.	[04:01]
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BayAreaCoins	Thanks man. How are you doing today?	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	as good as can be expected i guess.	[04:02]
BayAreaCoins	Another day of the life eh ;)	[04:03]
mircea_popescu	so how's the bay area for coins ?	[04:03]
BayAreaCoins	Going pretty good man. I'm kind of in that limbo stage of waiting on nerdos to finish up code... Feel like that has been the story of my life for 4-6 months :)	[04:07]
BayAreaCoins	I think once all of it comes together... well it will come together :P Just kind of selling a gun or two while I wait. I need a new bag because I'm sorta bored with everything atm.. Life :D	[04:08]
BayAreaCoins	How is Romania for coins? Pretty wide usage over there?	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	i'm in... argentina.	[04:09]
mike_c	what are the nerdos working on?	[04:10]
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BayAreaCoins	mike_c A automated drop shipping company and then a alt that I think is semi interesting (Huntercoin)	[04:11]
mike_c	automated drop shipping of what? you got warehouses or connections to suppliers?	[04:11]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu ah very nice. I think if I was going to live in South America I'd be looking at Belize (ambergris caye.) Any reason why you chose Argentina over the other countries?	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	well, it seemed cooler, basically.	[04:12]
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BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu haha hell ya	[04:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.19000949 = 5.7003 BTC [-] {8}	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	!worth 1	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	mol: 1.0 DRK @ 0.01047380 DRK/BTC (source:mintpal\|53s) = 0.010474 BTC / 6.66 USD (source:bitstamp:40s)	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	!mnstats	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	mol: 673 active masternodes (source:elbzone\|8m6s) @ 0.01047380 DRK/BTC (source:mintpal\|1m4s) = 7048.87 BTC / 4490058.05 USD in stake (source:bitstamp\|55s)	[04:16]
BayAreaCoins	mike_c No need for warehouses or partnerships to start out with. Basically what the company is going to do is relist items with a very small price bump and automate everything. We have been testing with 200 items for the past little bit and are seeing a good chunk of volume moving. I guess my main concern is that the shippers do their job because refunds are going to be a total and complete pain in the ass.	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	darkcoin is so shitting lulzy	[04:16]
thestringpuller	;;define equanimity	[04:17]
gribble	Error: "define" is not a valid command.	[04:17]
thestringpuller	;;google equanimity	[04:17]
gribble	Equanimity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Equanimity - Merriam-Webster Online: ; Equanimity \| Define Equanimity at Dictionary.com:	[04:17]
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mircea_popescu	BayAreaCoins is this your first attempt ?	[04:17]
thestringpuller	sounds like bitcoinshop.us ......	[04:17]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu at a automated drop shipping company? Yes it is	[04:17]
thestringpuller	you might as well just buy an amazon gift card off of GYFT	[04:18]
mike_c	good luck, it's a crowded field. got a website up?	[04:18]
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mircea_popescu	BayAreaCoins well then you won't be too surprised we just expect you to fail and learn from the experience ?	[04:19]
BayAreaCoins	mike_c not yet, still working on the code. Drop shipping Amazon from Ebay to start out with. Domain is locked down and I submitted articles of organization last night.	[04:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18510001 = 0.9255 BTC [-]	[04:21]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu I never go into anything expecting to fail, but if I do that is why I have the LLC up :P	[04:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.18251127 = 1.4601 BTC [-] {4}	[04:22]
BayAreaCoins	Can't live life in fear of failure or you'll never take the chance you need to succeed. If I had a nickle for every time I fucked up... I'd have far more nickles than I do now ;)	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	i guess an automated online auction scalper isn't the absolute worst first project someone may try.	[04:22]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu No inventor and no employees that is always a plus. It'll be interesting needless to say. Our ebay lister is stacked with 24,000 items, but getting ebay to up our limits is a bit of a pain in the ass.	[04:23]
BayAreaCoins	What are you guys investing in BTC wise as of late? Losing JD has me a bit lost on the BTC investment side. Although, I'm balls deep in a alt I think has a good chance.	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	http://pastebin.com/mEhgyHdV << i do something like this maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe once a year. this is what i get.	[04:26]
assbot	* Now talking on #bittrex * Topic for #bittrex is: richie doesn't know how to s - Pastebin.com	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	BayAreaCoins there's fmpif which is roughly similar.	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/877/difficulty-over-21bn-by-summers-end-2014/ << 21bn huh.	[04:28]
assbot	BitBet - Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014 :: 12.38 B (94%) on Yes, 0.78 B (6%) on No \| closing in 1 month 1 week\| weight: 52`857 (100`000 to 3)	[04:28]
mike_c	;;bc,stats	[04:29]
gribble	Current Blocks: 310477 \| Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 \| Next Difficulty In: 2002 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 0 hours, and 0 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 17408856848.9 \| Estimated Percent Change: 0.41843	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	tempting as hell.	[04:30]
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mike_c	still looking good for Monday? i'm getting an idiff itch.	[04:33]
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mircea_popescu	!up BayAreaCoins	[04:37]
-assbot-	You voiced BayAreaCoins for 30 minutes.	[04:37]
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BayAreaCoins	Thank you kindly	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	mike_c so far. you never know with these things until you get to test them	[04:37]
BayAreaCoins	Mostly in the Altcoin world I'm just trying to keep my holdings of HUC @ 5-10% of the O/S... I feel like ever since DOGE it has just exploded with shit on shit that is topped off with shit.	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	you don't say.	[04:42]
mike_c	"a human mine-able crypto currency" you know some people around here think BTC is human mineable.	[04:42]
BayAreaCoins	I like the mining structure and having potential to "create" jobs. Which I've got my fingers cross will bring more people into the crypto currency scene. It is at least different and the devs are know.	[04:44]
BayAreaCoins	Only thing that is semi tough is the need for HUC to start out mining HUC. Which is a good thing too at the same time.	[04:44]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu do you think we will continue to see this horrible trend of shit on shit?	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	human minable, i don't understand.	[04:45]
BayAreaCoins	www.Huntercoin.info that is the block chain. 90% of the coins are distributed via the "game" inside the wallet. To keep the network secure 5% Sha-256 and 5% Scrypt (dual merge mining.)	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	why would you suspect humans are playing the game inside the wallet ?	[04:46]
BayAreaCoins	I would suspect humans and bots.	[04:47]
BayAreaCoins	I'm more interested in the mining power behind it and the networks on going security. Total supply : * 2734040 HUC Hashrate : * sha256 : 2 818.74TH/s * scrypt : 13.30GH/s	[04:48]
BayAreaCoins	It has a long way to go though and some problems to be address	[04:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1020 @ 0.00245009 = 2.4991 BTC [-]	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	i don't understand how dual sha-scrypt improves security.	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	in pricniple it should lower it to the security of the lowest of the two	[04:50]
BayAreaCoins	I'm not 100% sure, but I'm going to go a head and pass that question along as well because I'd be interest in the response. Shits n giggles ya know	[04:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.181 = 1.991 BTC [-]	[04:52]
BayAreaCoins	I've seen their web base browser play that will allow people to instantly start "mining" though game play. Right now to sync the wallet is... well.. fucking huge to say it nicely. Probably has the largest bloat of any coin their is.	[04:53]
BayAreaCoins	there is* ffs	[04:53]
BayAreaCoins	NMC is a bitch to sync too though	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	!s reddit	[04:53]
assbot	838 results for 'reddit' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=reddit	[04:54]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu you a big reddit fan? :P	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	mnop	[04:55]
BayAreaCoins	mnop?	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	sort of like a mumbled no.	[04:56]
BayAreaCoins	Kinda figured that hahaha :D	[04:57]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu so still not big on the Off Shore Paper Wallet idea either eh?!	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	what idea whas that again ?	[04:57]
BayAreaCoins	Basically exactly what it sounds like. Off shore paper wallets with a network of trusted hedge fund attorneys around the world that are willing to hold paper wallets for clients within countries that have good privacy laws. Therefore giving the world the ability to chose which country they store their coins in safely.	[04:58]
BayAreaCoins	Jumping jurisdictions with coins pretty much	[04:58]
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BayAreaCoins	Maybe there is something already like that that I am unaware of as well though	[05:01]
mircea_popescu	why would anyone bother with this ?	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	http://www.reddit.com/r/depreshibe	[05:07]
assbot	A place for Depressed shibes to chat about things and vent	[05:07]
mircea_popescu	this still exists!	[05:07]
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mircea_popescu	!up BayAreaCoins	[05:08]
-assbot-	You voiced BayAreaCoins for 30 minutes.	[05:08]
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BayAreaCoins	LOL ooo dogecoin bahaha Thank good ole Klye and dooglus for that one :D I gave away so many millions of DOGE in JD chat.	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	for a total of < 1 btc ?	[05:09]
BayAreaCoins	haha probably ish ;)	[05:09]
BayAreaCoins	Got 140BTC out of 100 million of them though about	[05:10]
BayAreaCoins	Not to shaby for a months work	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	"I am a 23 yr M, diagnosed Bi-Polar:NoS with a history of Mixed States. Or, in other words, I faily to cope with my body's confusion on being manic and depressed at the same time, causing an abundance of frustration that turns to almost uncontrollable anger. I currently live with my fiancee, we are to be married this year, at the end of September, I'm on permanent disability for a variety of mental incapacitates."	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	why would a woman fiancee some 23 yo guy like that ?	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	this has got to be the bottom of the bottomless pit of gold digging	[05:10]
BayAreaCoins	Bitches love problems of course	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	like a lead digger	[05:10]
BayAreaCoins	But let me jump back to that off shore paper wallet thing really quick if you don't mind.	[05:11]
BayAreaCoins	I think a number of people in my country (America) are very very interested about how to bank "off shore", but they don't have the proper contacts. I believe if this was set up it would give people the ability to go off shore within a hour of deciding they wanted to (by using btc, also the extra $ flowing in isn't going to kill any of us either)	[05:12]
BayAreaCoins	Do you not see that in Europe as much?	[05:12]
BayAreaCoins	and Argentina	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	you seem to think "people" is a thing. "people" is not a thing, but at least two : the people who don't matter, and the people who, if they feel like it, fly over here, open a bank box and bang a coupla hotties the same night	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	for any value of here	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	now why would a lawyer want to be involved with group A, and why would group B want to share with a lawyer ?	[05:14]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu I've already contacted a few firms and they of course want to be involved for the same reason as any other law firms wants to be involved with anything.. Money. I think that group B would want to privately be involved with group A because it is better than having some FEDs come grab your lap top while you are reading in the Sci-Fi section	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	methinks mebbe re-read what i said ?	[05:16]
BayAreaCoins	ah ok 1 sec	[05:16]
BayAreaCoins	I totally agree about the two people thing. Group a = Myself and group B = potential customers?	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	no.	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	a = poor people ; b = rich people.	[05:18]
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mircea_popescu	you know, dear #bitcoin-assets, my short walk around the other freenode chans has really made me appreciate how much this chan rocks.	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	all.the.tools.omfg.	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	unrelatedly, http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2ahc1u/i_was_given_my_first_1ð_on_dec7th_my_birthday_now/	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	submitted 23 hours ago by Doge_Pro - investor shibe	[05:23]
BayAreaCoins	I would make the argument that there is a C. This would be middle class people who have a bank balance >250,000 (which is what FDIC insurance here in this country) but less than $1,500,000. I think that it would be more pointed towards them because I think people between those #'s are still a bit timid.	[05:24]
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mircea_popescu	BayAreaCoins people who have 1/4mn can afford to fly wherever the fuck they please.	[05:25]
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mircea_popescu	and no, the distinction is lower than that. something like 90% of us people own 1k or less in net assets.	[05:25]
BayAreaCoins	Obviously there is a decent demand for offshore banking, but I don't know a single one that I can set up within 10minutes from the comfort of my house and have it funded as well. Sure you can afford the flight, but you'll get laughed out of the bank.	[05:25]
BayAreaCoins	Wow 90%?	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	yes. americans are really vely poor.	[05:26]
BayAreaCoins	I think a lot of them are happy with being poor... which is disgusting.	[05:26]
BayAreaCoins	However I can assure you there are a number of us who aren't :) Don't get too down on good ole 'Murica ;)	[05:27]
mircea_popescu	https://moolah.io/store/ << look at that, no more store.	[05:27]
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BayAreaCoins	hmmm da fux... they close down shop I guess? I saw their little video leak.. I had a good chuck over that. Jackson is absolutely horrible to work with.... I like Billy a fuck of a lot more.	[05:28]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea who billy is	[05:28]
BayAreaCoins	Billy coded DOGE and Jackson was the marketing fuckhead	[05:28]
BayAreaCoins	I did a lot of talking to billy prior to Doge-dice launch	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	anyway, those of you who aren't aren't well advised to share where you hide your remaining wealth with anyone	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	especially not a govt employee	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	(which is what any lawyer is)	[05:29]
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BayAreaCoins	Well I suppose that is why I stumbled though here again to pick your head a bit. If you knew someone was coming to get you right now and they were going to tear your house down brick by brick searching it... where would you put your coins? (feel free to tell me to fuck off)	[05:33]
BayAreaCoins	it being your coin wallet	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	i'd just shoot them.	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	https://darkcointalk.org/threads/report-of-c-cex-situation-with-drk-because-of-feb-23-accident.1677/ << here's a little bit of lulzy	[05:33]
assbot	Report of C-CEX situation with DRK because of feb, 23 accident. \| DarkcoinTalk	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	"After "darkman" that find my mistake and get used of it made return of some DRK, exchange had about 250K DRK in wallet with discrepancy of about 50K DRK. Then I reversed DRK/BTC transactions made with him. After that I made another big mistake: I did not disabled withdrawals for users with negative balances."	[05:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 921 @ 0.00251488 = 2.3162 BTC [-] {6}	[05:34]
BayAreaCoins	Right of course. I sell fire arms for bitcoin too on BTCtalk, but I only ship to America atm which probably isn't much help for you :)	[05:34]
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BayAreaCoins	So you would rely 100% on your ability to shoot. I would think if I was put in that situation I would want to have a place to drop them off in case I got hit during the fire fight... that way I could leave the coins to my family or what not (like setting up a Trust)	[05:36]
BayAreaCoins	(? not a . on that first line)	[05:36]
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mircea_popescu	why would i shoot them personally ?!	[05:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 224 @ 0.00248999 = 0.5578 BTC [-]	[05:37]
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BayAreaCoins	Well unless you are fucking bullet proof you might have to blast their ass if they come in your house! :P Never mind, but good points. Thanks man	[05:38]
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mircea_popescu	you're acting as if security is some sort of novel thing. it's not. security is actually older than computers,	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	and than steam engine.	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	"[14-06-23 14:07:53] C-CEX: There is no Your, or my coins. I explained situation. That happens. I did not take any customer's coin."	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	pretty fucking epic.	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	!up BayAreaCoins	[05:43]
-assbot-	You voiced BayAreaCoins for 30 minutes.	[05:43]
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mircea_popescu	get in that wot already wouldja.	[05:43]
BayAreaCoins	haha that's the last time you'll have to do that man :) Thanks :P you got a bitcoin address for donations :P	[05:44]
mircea_popescu	o.o	[05:47]
BayAreaCoins	a bitcent per up! ;) haha :D	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	i guess i'll be rich.	[05:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 295 @ 0.00265863 = 0.7843 BTC [+] {6}	[05:48]
BayAreaCoins	hahaha slowly but surely! :D	[05:49]
BayAreaCoins	I had a venture last year that made like $200,000 a nickle at a time rofl	[05:50]
BayAreaCoins	Metric fuck ton of nickles	[05:50]
mircea_popescu	you don't rly know who i am do you ?	[05:51]
BayAreaCoins	I do	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	speaking of bitcents, kinda amazing no further camwhores came forward.	[05:52]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[05:52]
BayAreaCoins	haha is that a reference to the nickle thing too ;)	[05:53]
BayAreaCoins	Which camwhores do you speak of or all of them in general accepting BTC for donations?	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	!s tits	[05:53]
assbot	463 results for 'tits' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tits	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	click all the img links	[05:54]
BayAreaCoins	Haha nice :D Good ole webcams :)	[05:55]
BayAreaCoins	I was involved with them since 2010... my profile structure is actually one of the most copied there is on MyFreeCams now	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	really ?	[05:56]
BayAreaCoins	Young n dumb.. young n dumb	[05:56]
BayAreaCoins	Yes	[05:56]
mircea_popescu	so then help spread the news ? im giving away .1 per head.	[05:56]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << details.	[05:56]
assbot	I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[05:56]
BayAreaCoins	haha It would be my pleasure to help :)	[05:57]
BayAreaCoins	I'll tell a few	[05:57]
mircea_popescu	do a girl a favour today! i hear money's tough.	[05:57]
BayAreaCoins	It's hard out there ;) hahaha (song)	[05:57]
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BayAreaCoins	http://profiles.myfreecams.com/RavinTavin	[05:58]
assbot	RavinTavin's Homepage on MyFreeCams.com	[05:58]
BayAreaCoins	I believe she takes BTC and there are a few others too	[05:58]
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BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu what did you do prior to CryptoCurrencies? I assume you were successful prior?	[06:05]
BayAreaCoins	Feel free to tell me to get fucked, I was just wondering	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	prior to that i ran romania's most read blog, a local digg like service (reddit wasn't really all that big yet).	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	before that i was retired.	[06:06]
BayAreaCoins	What was your main bag that got you to that point of first retirement? I'm not trying to Q and A your ass of course	[06:08]
benkay	I like the mining structure and having potential to "create" jobs // oh god what is going on here	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	benkay don't ask.	[06:09]
BayAreaCoins	lol don't ask	[06:09]
BayAreaCoins	Who wants to make $10 a hour anyways...rolls eyes ungratefully :D	[06:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00240128 = 2.4013 BTC [-]	[06:15]
benkay	haha that's the last time you'll have to do that man :) Thanks :P you got a bitcoin address for donations :P // 'course, you'll have to get rated, too.	[06:15]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: link to the dead man (if there is a link) ?	[06:15]
asciilifeform	and i leave for a day, and slavecoin (!) walks in ?	[06:15]
mircea_popescu	who, this ?	[06:15]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-07-2014#753289	[06:16]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform guy's nick was paraipan. he had cancer. no link afaik.	[06:17]
asciilifeform	aha	[06:17]
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mircea_popescu	because you're a simpleminded paranoid!	[06:17]
asciilifeform	'human-minable cryptocurrency'	[06:17]
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*	asciilifeform guilty as charged	[06:17]
*	asciilifeform saw film, 'snowpiercer' - an otherwise ridiculous cheap sf flick with some good meat re: hierarchy and the nature of 'derp'	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	so, half liter screwdriver, made out of right-now pressed oj and 12 yo cognac ? well, about $4 for the oranges, about $3 for the b randy.	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	that	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	s pesos, of course. 50 cents.	[06:19]
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asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: Off shore paper wallets with a network of trusted hedge fund attorneys around the world that are willing to hold paper wallets for clients within countries that have good privacy laws << lol, seriously think that law is a thing?	[06:24]
nam-shub_	probably the worst time to ask, but what's a two bedroom apartment cost there mp?	[06:24]
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asciilifeform	!up BayAreaCoins	[06:36]
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BayAreaCoins	Thank you kindly, I'm getting it worked out. Want a bitcent ;) lol	[06:37]
BayAreaCoins	and lol @ slavecoin too, I really hope it doesn't turn into that.	[06:37]
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asciilifeform	!s slavecoin	[06:37]
assbot	18 results for 'slavecoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=slavecoin	[06:37]
BayAreaCoins	I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin :) I'm still waiting for Klu Klux Koin because I know it will get in a lot of peoples feelings :D	[06:39]
benkay	I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin // how would it not?	[06:39]
BayAreaCoins	Sadly you are going to have child labor in everything... all the way from making shoes to now mining. I don't think it can be avoided, but I think the game is swinging more toward bots... which obviously doesn't matter bot or not if it is a 5 year old running it.	[06:40]
BayAreaCoins	Not that I've seen any confirmed cases of that, but it is a thought.	[06:41]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: consider answering question from earlier	[06:42]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: why do you believe that law will protect your customers	[06:42]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: or that it ever makes logical sense to trust another person with your private key	[06:43]
BayAreaCoins	I believe a lack of laws will protect potential customers.	[06:43]
benkay	5 yo's running bots?	[06:44]
benkay	i'm just having the tiniest bit of trouble stitching this into something coherent.	[06:44]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: let's draw a picture. scenario 'a' - current state of the art. u.s. inquisition drags a fellow away, sits him down on a sharp stake and pulls on his legs until he coughs up his private key.	[06:44]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: scenario 'b' - your service exists. u.s. inquisition drags a fellow away, sits him down on a sharp stake and pulls on his legs until he makes the magic phone call to $country where his coins are 'trustily' stored.	[06:45]
BayAreaCoins	Well first off it will be a bucket of water and a pillow case :)	[06:46]
asciilifeform	in scenario 'b', there is a 'private key' just as in 'a'	[06:46]
asciilifeform	and it goes to the same place.	[06:46]
asciilifeform	except that the fellow in 'b' is poorer even before the inquisitor shows up.	[06:46]
BayAreaCoins	I believe it would need to be set up to were the client can instantly send the coins from anywhere in the world, but actually has to pick them up in person or have someone who is part of the "trust" pick them up. (in case the primary account holder dies ect.)	[06:47]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: fine. they take his family and sharpen N stakes, one for each hostage. and send him to pick up.	[06:48]
BayAreaCoins	Right	[06:48]
BayAreaCoins	That has to be the clients choice, but either way the coins are safe at the end of the day.	[06:48]
BayAreaCoins	Family or no family	[06:48]
dub	well, no family	[06:48]
dub	or client	[06:48]
BayAreaCoins	Way she goes	[06:49]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: do you imagine that the greatest threat to an american btc user's stash is burglars, fire, flood?	[06:50]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: if this were so, he could simply keep his coldwallet in a bank deposit box (or some number of them, via shamir's algorithm)	[06:50]
BayAreaCoins	I have to be frank with you... this is more for people who are looking to get hit by some government entity such as PDR. I do keep my paper wallets in banks between California and Arkansas. However, I'm lucky enough to not have to have that worry/fear of my government because I don't involve myself with a number of business that one can choose to be involved in around BTC	[06:52]
BayAreaCoins	Divorces, blah blah blah you know the shit that happens in life	[06:52]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: what you don't appear to understand is that this is a 'military' puzzle, not a 'legal' puzzle.	[06:53]
asciilifeform	enemy is under no obligation to follow whatever rules of engagement	[06:53]
dub	theres the small issue of there being no market at all for such a service	[06:53]
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dub	anyone who is willing to die and sacrifice family to protect coin will be doing so without help	[06:54]
asciilifeform	dub: this is rather like saying there is no market for a perpetuum mobile. of course there is. but, go build it.	[06:54]
asciilifeform	and by pitching a service explicitly to 'appeal to next DPR', you become... DPR. in the sense that once his stake is vacated, you will sit down on it.	[06:55]
dub	if you actually had a use for this level of protection you could trviially roll your own, would not trust anyone else to do so anyway, and be one of 7 people alive	[06:55]
BayAreaCoins	dub That was a extreme event that was brought up by asciilifeform. I would venture to say that there is a market for people who are looking for privacy and the ability to store value where they want in the world.	[06:55]
asciilifeform	privacy and the ability to store value where they want << the existing blockchain provides this.	[06:56]
BayAreaCoins	Correct but the majority of people in the world have 0 fucking clue wtf the blockchain is and if they do they are scared of losing their shit. Look at coinbase building their "safe" wtf is the point of that! ;)	[06:56]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: describe a scenario where a user of your service will come out unscathed, where a user of plain bitcoin would perish.	[06:57]
BayAreaCoins	asciilifeform lets say you are in SF and you're reading a book in the Sci-Fi section... lol haha :P no but really.	[06:57]
BayAreaCoins	Not just that of course either.	[06:58]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: see the point about the stake.	[06:58]
mircea_popescu	nam-shub_ to buy you mean ?	[06:58]
nam-shub_	say what?	[06:58]
asciilifeform	BayAreaCoins: the only way you could conceivably 'save' a 'DPR' is to put - distance, army, navy, missile battery - between his arse and the nice folks in washington	[06:58]
mircea_popescu	I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin << srsly, "hopefully" is all you got ?	[06:59]
mircea_popescu	nam-shub_ what an appt costs to buy or to rent	[06:59]
mike_c	speaking of sitting on stakes, how you enjoying your stake BayAreaCoins? :)	[06:59]
nam-shub_	oh yeah, to buy	[06:59]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu it is decentralized. Dunno what else I could have in regards to combating that.	[06:59]
mircea_popescu	nam-shub_ 50 to 100k usd, in ba. quite overpriced yet, they're sitll hoping.	[07:00]
BayAreaCoins	mike_c Medium rare and yummy as always :P	[07:00]
mircea_popescu	!up GNULinuxGuy	[07:01]
-assbot-	You voiced GNULinuxGuy for 30 minutes.	[07:01]
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mircea_popescu	;;gettrust GNULinuxGuy	[07:01]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user GNULinuxGuy: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=GNULinuxGuy \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=GNULinuxGuy \| Rated since: never	[07:01]
mircea_popescu	;;rate GNULinuxGuy 1 New blood	[07:01]
gribble	Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.	[07:01]
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BayAreaCoins	mike_c Which stake are you talking about though, I generally have a number of them poking me :P	[07:02]
mike_c	i meant the bitcoin-assets stake currently being applied.	[07:02]
mike_c	it can be helpful, but it is sharp.	[07:03]
mircea_popescu	"However, I'm lucky enough to not have to have that worry/fear of my government because I don't involve myself with a number of business that one can choose to be involved in around BTC"	[07:04]
mircea_popescu	this is the lulziest shit i read all day,.	[07:04]
asciilifeform	reminds of old saying: 'eat right. exercise. die very surprised.'	[07:04]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu I mean I ship my guns using FFL's and require permits to transfer snails across state lines :)	[07:04]
BayAreaCoins	mike_c I grew up on Battle.net (Blizzard Entertainment games) and I've always hung around successful people... so I don't mind getting my balls busted. It is good for me	[07:05]
dub	lol	[07:05]
BayAreaCoins	is what it is. I know where not to get clients for the offshore idea :P learned something haha	[07:05]
mircea_popescu	i miss herbi	[07:05]
mircea_popescu	BayAreaCoins let's take this one meta further.	[07:06]
BayAreaCoins	prepares balls	[07:06]
mircea_popescu	the process whereby you come up with "ideas" and then look for applications is fundamentally broken	[07:06]
asciilifeform	;;seen herbijudlestoids	[07:06]
gribble	herbijudlestoids was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 6 days, 10 hours, 56 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <3	[07:06]
mircea_popescu	not distinguishable from the process where dork figures out how his dream gf should look and then proceeds to try and find her.	[07:06]
mircea_popescu	the world works exactly backwards.	[07:06]
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dub	he's invented mybitcoin	[07:06]
mircea_popescu	BayAreaCoins if you take the time to read this chan, which you should in any case, you'll discover all the respected/successful projects have the same thing in common, as all the mocked/despised "entrepreneurs" in their own characterisation have something else in common.	[07:07]
mircea_popescu	the former all started as in "you guise desperately need and ask for this, here it is"	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	the latter all started as in "here's my bright idea i came up with"	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	the most recent examples of this are of course mthreat's search and ninjashogun's whatever the fuck that was,	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	but plenty more in the same vein.	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	dub: if you actually had a use for this level of protection you could trviially roll your own, would not trust anyone else to do so anyway, and be one of 7 people alive << your summary is approved. when do you quit your dayjob to do ba logs summary full time ?	[07:09]
asciilifeform	'everyone' has a use for atomic dirigible. except for the folks who can afford it.	[07:10]
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dub	i dont have a day job	[07:18]
mircea_popescu	buncha fucking bums in this chan	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	nobody can keep a job.	[07:20]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=421615.msg7809092#msg7809092 << darkcoin dramz	[07:23]
mircea_popescu	!up stormlight	[07:23]
-assbot-	You voiced stormlight for 30 minutes.	[07:23]
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asciilifeform	dead link?	[07:23]
mircea_popescu	apparently they got a hard fork.	[07:23]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7809092#msg7809092 < that work ?	[07:24]
assbot	[ANN][DRK] DarkCoin \| First Anonymous Coin \| First X11 \| First DGW \| Fork for Masternode Payments!	[07:24]
asciilifeform	aye	[07:24]
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mircea_popescu	"Is there any other coin that has so many talented individual developers backing up the network?	[07:28]
mircea_popescu	Is there any website even remotely close to chaeplin's detailed network analysis, even for Bitcoin?	[07:28]
mircea_popescu	Is there any community out there, that despite the price crashes and road-bumps, stick together in such a strong manner, getting stronger by the day?"	[07:28]
mircea_popescu	in case you didn't know this... apparently darkcoin is a big deal. o.O	[07:28]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.cityam.com/1403524841/darkcoin-fails-rise-after-latest-hardfork-failure << this REALLY sounds a lot like solidcoin.	[07:31]
assbot	Darkcoin fails to rise after latest hardfork failure \| City A.M.	[07:31]
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benkay	hardfork failure?	[07:33]
benkay	a new language for your new coin	[07:33]
benkay	had a great interaction with a human today at a bbq: "what do you think of all of the other coins?" "you mean the forks of the bitcoin reference implementation with various knobs diddled?" "are they--" "yes."	[07:34]
danielpbarron	!up BayAreaCoins	[07:34]
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BayAreaCoins	Ah damn, thank you sir.	[07:35]
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BayAreaCoins	k <3 :D	[07:35]
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mircea_popescu	;;calc 3600 * 24 / 512 * 25	[07:36]
gribble	4218.75	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	so let me get this straight, this coin produces about 3/4 of the bitcoins of a day, and they're supposedly worth 1 bitcent each ?	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	the magix.	[07:36]
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BayAreaCoins	danielpbarron 0fc3075cbfb1e8cb9f1f8b114086291a79ca543a8dd2485ca11afc3ad0d395aa	[07:40]
mircea_popescu	ok, x11 is fucking dumb, for the record. jesus it's scary what happens when engineers just start doing shit without any supervision.	[07:40]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron is this the first successful charge-for-up case ?	[07:41]
mike_c	just for the record, sometimes the supervison sucks.	[07:41]
mircea_popescu	mike_c agreed.	[07:41]
mircea_popescu	i am not proposing to excuse the idiocy of the phb.	[07:41]
BayAreaCoins	lol happy to be the first :P... it's what I do ;)	[07:42]
BayAreaCoins	sarcasm	[07:42]
mircea_popescu	only took like 3 months or so i reckon	[07:43]
danielpbarron	sweet! thanks, BayAreaCoins	[07:44]
BayAreaCoins	Not a problem man! Thank you	[07:46]
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BayAreaCoins	What do you guys what to see next for bitcoin that doesn't exist right now or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm?	[07:47]
decimation	Mr. Coins if you are convinced there is a "middle class" of bitcoin users in the us, why not start an exchange for them?	[07:47]
mircea_popescu	decimation he's new, give him a break.	[07:48]
mircea_popescu	BayAreaCoins you're new, so nobody really knows what you';d be good at.	[07:48]
mircea_popescu	that's kinda why you're stuck reading the logs for a while.	[07:48]
benkay	or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm? // this sounds like the guy who asks "so do all of your friends use linux, then?" when told one occasionally counsels friends on not being retarded with crypto	[07:48]
mircea_popescu	benkay i bet you 64.58.198.181 answers on all teh windows ports.	[07:50]
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benkay	webchat forwards user IP?	[07:51]
mircea_popescu	this is the internet. it does whatever you want it to.	[07:52]
benkay	BayAreaCoins: you're going to have a hard time figuring out what'd benefit the ecosystem when you don't even have big boy pants on.	[07:52]
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BayAreaCoins	No breaks please. Bust my balls with full force. It is all good. mircea_popescu. Decimation I think there are a number of places that middle class americans already exchange BTC. I'm also not 100% convinced that is why I'm interested in what you guys have to say.	[07:53]
benkay	mircea_popescu: of course it can. does, though.	[07:53]
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BayAreaCoins	benkay excuse me for getting stoned. Gotta give me a min.. I go to bed and wake up everyday with my big boy spider man underware	[07:53]
BayAreaCoins	benkay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDITyYfua8	[07:54]
assbot	Bernie Mac I Ain't Scared of You Mofos - YouTube	[07:54]
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mircea_popescu	BayAreaCoins start with something easy, like getting in the wot.	[07:54]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu ya I'll get on that this week. I have a Thompson 1927-A1 coming in next week I can probably get listed and sold ASAP.	[07:55]
mircea_popescu	that's not the important part there.	[07:55]
BayAreaCoins	mircea_popescu Ok, I'll read into it and get it taken care of.	[07:57]
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decimation	re: net worth of 'merican adult: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/americans-have-relatively-poor-net-wealth-cm257517	[07:59]
assbot	Americans Have Relatively Poor Net Wealth - NASDAQ.com	[07:59]
decimation	only 28% of us adults have over $100k	[07:59]
mircea_popescu	decimation that thing uses bad real estate data.	[08:00]
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benkay	underwarez	[08:00]
mircea_popescu	!up Graet	[08:00]
-assbot-	You voiced Graet for 30 minutes.	[08:00]
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kyuupichan	lol	[08:01]
BayAreaCoins	;) :D lol	[08:01]
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cazalla	:In Australia, over 65% of all adults have a net worth exceeding $100,000"	[08:02]
cazalla	we also have inflated property prices out the ass	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	cazalla exactly.	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	http://econintersect.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/z-temp3.png	[08:02]
decimation	well, in May 2014 the median existing home price was $213,400 in the us http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/HOSMEDUSM052N	[08:02]
assbot	Median Sales Price of Existing Homes - FRED - St. Louis Fed	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	this thing claims aussies are 50% richer than austrians	[08:02]
kyuupichan	Just finished paying for my whole Maldives trip with BTC. Sorry to keep the downward price pressure on.	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	this is ludicrous.	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	kyuupichan enjoy.	[08:03]
decimation	anyone who has ever been near the DACH zone knows that germans are rich as fuck	[08:03]
mircea_popescu	decimation roughly in the sense darkcoin is worth 4 dollars per.	[08:03]
mircea_popescu	"provided noone sells"	[08:03]
decimation	right, so the median adult can barely afford half a median house	[08:03]
decimation	the median us adult is therefore a debt slave	[08:03]
mircea_popescu	if you adjust those numbers for real-real estate prices, you get about 90% ish of us peeps under 1k (which is also your error, or at least mine)	[08:04]
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mircea_popescu	also ludicrous : india 4k, china 20k ? heh. the chinese aren't 5x ahead of the indians just because the chinese govt inflated a real estate bubble which delhi doesn't quite match	[08:05]
decimation	so, you are saying that the nasdaq data is inflated because of "paper house value"	[08:05]
mircea_popescu	ok, look at sweeden : by that judgement, 231k mean 40k median, it is the MOST inequal country in all of europe.	[08:06]
mircea_popescu	SWEDEN.	[08:06]
mircea_popescu	thing's fucking borked.	[08:06]
decimation	doesn't sweden have a government minimum income	[08:07]
kyuupichan	Another blockchain spammer: https://blockchain.info/address/1AH3gdneXaV1qEEB1XJQjS7qbzktf1APx7	[08:09]
assbot	Bitcoin Address 1AH3gdneXaV1qEEB1XJQjS7qbzktf1APx7	[08:09]
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mircea_popescu	there will be an infinity of these	[08:10]
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decimation	http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-card-data/average-credit-card-debt-household/ << apparently nearly 50% of us households carry a credit card balance monthly	[08:12]
assbot	American Household Credit Card Debt Statistics: 2014	[08:12]
decimation	so they cleary have less than $0 net worth	[08:13]
mircea_popescu	How to create a masternode? - Get a machine with a static ip	[08:13]
mircea_popescu	this is the anon coin.	[08:14]
mircea_popescu	it relies on... machines with static ips.	[08:14]
mircea_popescu	decimation right.	[08:14]
decimation	I suspect the "wealthy" half has most of their assets locked away in retirement plans, and most of those plans don't allow you to "invest" as you choose	[08:15]
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benkay	decimation: truth.	[08:18]
mircea_popescu	decimation 50% are in cc hell. of the remainder, 30% are in middle class hell (they have some money, locked away in iras, college funds, ss payments etc - all of which is as good as gone but nobody's telling them).	[08:18]
decimation	lol https://blog.personalcapital.com/financial-planning-2/average-401k-balance-age/ "Supposedly two-thirds of working households age 55-64 with at least one earner have retirement savings less than one times their annual income. Given the median household income is roughly $52,000, that?s not a good sign."	[08:18]
mircea_popescu	of the remainder 20%, about 10% are homeless, in prison or in mental institutions	[08:18]
assbot	The Average 401k Balance By Age	[08:18]
mircea_popescu	that leaves 10%, of which about half are expats.	[08:18]
decimation	or easily could be ex-pats, if the mood struck	[08:19]
mircea_popescu	the mood strikes.	[08:19]
benkay	<- pending exile	[08:20]
mircea_popescu	jesus this darkcoin thing is more stupid than i had originally thought.	[08:20]
benkay	!s from: benkay darkcoin	[08:21]
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mircea_popescu	ha.	[08:22]
benkay	yeah i now recall thinking to myself "myup. stop wasting time, kid."	[08:22]
decimation	when you boil that down, the american "middle class" is really at most maybe 10% of the population, so maybe ~20 million adults	[08:24]
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mircea_popescu	i was like "why do i never receive altcoin summaries&updates ???" "because they are all exceedingly stupid" "no wai." "eta 2 hours"	[08:24]
mircea_popescu	2 hours later i am... where's that cat gif	[08:24]
mircea_popescu	http://www.artic.edu/~lfreit/catsoftheinternet/images/scared%20kitten.jpg	[08:25]
decimation	re: german spies << either the germans are really good or the CIA sucks at spying, apparently	[08:28]
mircea_popescu	the russians halped.	[08:28]
mircea_popescu	germany is maybe in the top 10. russia is of course in the top 5, way up there with romania and israel.	[08:29]
mircea_popescu	the us is not in any top.	[08:29]
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mircea_popescu	!up basquiat_	[08:30]
-assbot-	You voiced basquiat_ for 30 minutes.	[08:30]
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basquiat_	anyone use havelock?	[08:30]
decimation	what does the fact that the US auctioned off the DPR horde of btc rather than put it in the fed reveal about usg?	[08:30]
benkay	https://unsee.cc/napube/	[08:30]
assbot	Unsee — Free online private photo sharing	[08:30]
mircea_popescu	decimation how do you know it didn't ?	[08:30]
mircea_popescu	!s havelock	[08:30]
mircea_popescu	basquiat_ ^	[08:30]
assbot	65766 results for 'havelock' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=havelock	[08:30]
mircea_popescu	aw shit bad link. one sec	[08:31]
decimation	are you saying the auction never took place?	[08:31]
mircea_popescu	!s havelock -from:assbot	[08:31]
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mircea_popescu	decimation nah.	[08:32]
decimation	I guess they have only claimed to have sold 30k of the 144k	[08:32]
benkay	well i've worked through these provisioners from top to bottom, and now it's time to test them all against some freshness	[08:33]
benkay	vagrant destroy && vagrant up	[08:34]
benkay	./provision 127.0.0.1 2222	[08:34]
benkay	"okay girls, let's go!"	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2014#717140 you know ?	[08:35]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[08:35]
decimation	eh, that supposes that the usg is secretly competent, which you just implied was not the case above	[08:38]
mircea_popescu	i really don't see a conflict.	[08:38]
mircea_popescu	how's it work ?	[08:38]
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decimation	some part of the usg has to be able to operate in secrecy effectively to perform this laudering plan right?	[08:40]
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mircea_popescu	you mean the plan i just discussed in a public chan ?	[08:40]
mircea_popescu	yeah, i see that.	[08:40]
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[]bot	Bet created: "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/	[08:46]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19971884 = 1.1983 BTC [+] {2}	[08:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19999326 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2}	[08:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [+]	[09:56]
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punkman	!up BayAreaCoins	[10:41]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell mike_c hey, https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ << after 1 year, everyone's on -	[11:46]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[11:46]
assbot	Game 17 - Death 5000 Life 5000 Year 2 - War of Life	[11:46]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 63 @ 0.00911084 = 0.574 BTC [-] {2}	[12:11]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 42(Y):58(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.24105324 BTC. Current weight: 93,892.	[12:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 500 @ 0.03079906 = 15.3995 BTC [-]	[12:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 500 @ 0.012 = 6 BTC [-] {3}	[12:18]
dub	who won game 16?	[12:20]
mircea_popescu	well there's no "win" per se.	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/16/activity/	[12:24]
assbot	War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	some people made a profit, some made a loss	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	death mostly made a loss.	[12:24]
dub	fwiw having a link ot the previous game might be nice	[12:24]
dub	death beat life though right?	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	the link is there	[12:25]
dub	i cant see it	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	Death 5094 Life 4906	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	so yeah, by like 2%	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	https://btc.waroflife.com/ << see where it says "game 16 - finished" ?	[12:26]
assbot	War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!	[12:26]
dub	try putting it on the gow page where one would go looking for it	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	on the where ?	[12:27]
mircea_popescu	it's like a large centrral panel with the current game and two smaller to the left, prev and next game	[12:27]
dub	yeah I see it on the front page but nobody would land there surely?	[12:28]
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dub	anyway, to sound like a sore loser, its a stupid game	[12:29]
mircea_popescu	lol you lost ?!	[12:30]
dub	yes	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	how the hell can you lose	[12:30]
dub	by backing the winning team. clearly	[12:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 29 @ 0.03079906 = 0.8932 BTC [-]	[12:31]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha	[12:31]
mircea_popescu	this sounds just like a buttcoin game.	[12:31]
mircea_popescu	now i know it's gonna be successful.	[12:31]
mircea_popescu	it all hinged on having something like bitbet's "omgwtfbbq i bet on winning side and lost!"	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	lol so i peeled .33 off this satoshi dice clone thing	[12:33]
punkman	dub, it's not about backing the winning team, you just have to buy cheaper than all the other mooks	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	^	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	this is the ultimate "bitcoin investor" cocaine tbh	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	mike is wise.	[12:37]
dub	i realise that	[12:37]
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punkman	;;later tell mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame	[12:42]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[12:42]
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thestringpuller	;;gettrust assbot hanbot	[19:30]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user hanbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 11 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=hanbot \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=hanbot \| Rated since: Wed Dec 11 14:42:14 2013	[19:30]
thestringpuller	lol	[19:30]
artifexd	she asked	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	ahh look at the short logs.	[19:31]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell punkman: mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame << actually, it'd be prolly good to have a YOU: summary on either side of GoW as long as the person is actually logged in. in case they bought multiple bids etc.	[19:32]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	dub hm, what do you hate about it ? that there's not really any "you lose 100%" ?	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation << but you know seattle/the us is not really the center of mining.	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	cazalla: not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P << lol what, she got a nice big black fellow all lined up ?	[19:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02987824 = 2.9878 BTC [-]	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	"The Itanium approach...was supposed to be so terrific—until it turned out that the wished-for compilers were basically impossible to write."	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	ah, if only they had heard of urbit.	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	they could have just made jets.	[19:38]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the famous 'itanic' used an approach called 'vliw' - 'very long instruction word' - where the compiler was expected to fill up the pipeline manually, avoiding 'hazards' (instructions fighting over a resource, e.g. register or memory)	[19:39]
mircea_popescu	right.	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	logically, the compiler is in the best position to do this, because it can directly poll the bus.	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	(how do you like my new 64 Gb Snark ?)	[19:40]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: it can - and was - be made to work, just that it was never clear to anyone wtf the point is.	[19:41]
asciilifeform	sorta like howard hughes and his 'spruce goose'	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	well, it was different... not to mention "new and exciting"	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	the 90s way to say "revolutionary and innovative"	[19:41]
*	asciilifeform failed to get excited	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	well honestly, the wood airplane may well ahve becvome a big deal.	[19:42]
*	asciilifeform suspects that itanic was a 'lock-in play' - intel hoped that no one else could write a decent compiler for the chip. but what ended up happening was - for ages, gcc was the only working itanic toolchain...	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	i think you're right	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	they woefully misjudged their market position, too.	[19:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 100 @ 0.0121 = 1.21 BTC [-]	[19:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02987824 = 2.9878 BTC [-]	[19:44]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: what intel overestimated was the ability of microshit to shoehorn their turd into exotic cpu. turned out to be nil. (nt on alpha - never entirely worked. etc)	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	that too. but even should ms have had it ready on t+1minute, and if it worked splendidly (lolk, but bear with me)	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	the net result would have been foss+amd buldgeoning them into a fine paste.	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	so it's one of those things old geezers tell you about, as their life turning point, over a game of checkers in central park. no, it wasn't : even if the thing they woe about would have worked their way	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	there were upstream considerations preventing it from working anyway	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	classical example, "if only the nightcop hadn't turned around just then".	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	ya, right.	[19:47]
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mircea_popescu	!up basquiat_	[19:47]
-assbot-	You voiced basquiat_ for 30 minutes.	[19:47]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 74 @ 0.0116404 = 0.8614 BTC [-] {2}	[19:52]
assbot	nam-shub +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0	[19:53]
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mircea_popescu	!up nam-shub	[19:54]
-assbot-	You voiced nam-shub for 30 minutes.	[19:54]
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mircea_popescu	trust vectored fighters are fucking cool.	[19:54]
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benkay	does anyone have a copy of john brooks Business Adventures?	[19:56]
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benkay	someone's digitized it and trying to make a dime off the old man's corpse: www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/07/bill-gates-favorite-business-book.html	[19:57]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the real marvel is that itanics are still being produced.	[20:01]
asciilifeform	(or at least they were, last year...)	[20:02]
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mircea_popescu	didn't they name one after a senator or something ?	[20:02]
asciilifeform	http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/itanium/itanium-kittson-update.html	[20:03]
assbot	Intel Itanium Processors Update	[20:03]
asciilifeform	afaik, a city	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	hm	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	what am i confusing it with	[20:03]
asciilifeform	every single building at u.s. national institute of health?	[20:03]
asciilifeform	(named after senator who disbursed some payola)	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	no dude	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	;;google poulson itanium	[20:04]
gribble	Itanium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Intel finally releases 9500-series Itanium, announces plans to merge ...: ; Intel's Eight-Core, Heavily-Updated Poulson Itanium Breaks Cover ...: (1 more message)	[20:04]
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mircea_popescu	;;bc,stats	[20:13]
gribble	Current Blocks: 310581 \| Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 \| Next Difficulty In: 1898 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 15 hours, 40 minutes, and 48 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 18900118669.5 \| Estimated Percent Change: 9.02038	[20:13]
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punkman	was just looking at this, f.mpif pc4 stands to make almost 10% (if favored side wins on pending bets): http://i.imgur.com/g5MPhbF.png	[20:22]
mircea_popescu	wow srsly ?	[20:24]
punkman	!up hanbot	[20:24]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/	[20:26]
assbot	F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	so far it's red all around tho	[20:26]
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mircea_popescu	there's gotta be a red card	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	if not they're not even trying.	[20:32]
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thestringpuller	i need to stop binge watching netflix	[20:36]
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mircea_popescu	this has got to be the most idiotic publisher strat i ever encountered. so about a month ago, i shot an email to a medium sized network, for an ad spot. i got a reply from an acct manager, which was a little late and very half assed. i just dropped the thing. he sent me a couple "follow-up" emails later that week, which resulted in them being blacklisted.	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	during the intervening month, they sent no less than 15 emails to my spam filter.	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	holy shit man, why not just be on the ball and cut the deal when you have the chance ? why half ass that and then spend a month trying ? what sort of idiot came up with this strat i wish to know.	[20:40]
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mircea_popescu	lol wut?	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	oh.	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	jesus that must suck.	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	"why find a few good friends in this world, just pretend everything in it is an earthworm	[20:43]
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mircea_popescu	BRINGERS OF DARKNESS are revitalizing audiences with their raw energy live show and undeniable chemistry of brotherhood. They transcend a world that is locked in genre and commercialism; though they know they can't do it alone, they are the seeds of a revolution. The band has pitched their newest CD to Sony executives[, played in front of the likes of Henry Rallins, and the lead singer has sang onstage with Freddie Mir	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	cury - we have the goods and we WILL deliver.	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	Members: Tim "Kinnie" kingsworth - guitarist born to rock, tim has written many of bringers of darkness's best songs including "my love for you is swimming through the rapids like a broken arow" (Tim only plays Bingleworth guitars. Onstage, he plays a Bingleworth J-9000 7-string with a neo-chromium humbuckers. For recording, he uses a K-9001 with two single-coli pickups. He exclusively uses Krankle amplifiers and Czech	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	-Tec guitar tubes)	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	this should be an ipo.	[20:55]
punkman	mircea_popescu: turns out I fucked up some math there, expected gain on pending bets is around 40%	[21:00]
mircea_popescu	wait what ?	[21:00]
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punkman	yep, http://i.imgur.com/B4bugC5.png	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	can you do some more math erroring, get it to 160% ?	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	that "pending gain" is a best case sort of number no ?	[21:05]
punkman	if favored side wins, yeah	[21:05]
punkman	if I pick the favored side by total btc in the pot, then pending gain goes to -1.43 BTC	[21:07]
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punkman	(todo: make stats exportable)	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	so basically it could either lose or win, maybe a lot, probably a little.	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	hanbot good point re the bombs yeah	[21:11]
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mircea_popescu	!up indiancandy1	[21:13]
-assbot-	You voiced indiancandy1 for 30 minutes.	[21:13]
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mircea_popescu	o hey the crowds are getting rowdy	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/07/11/drought-shaming-pitting-neighbors-against-neighbors-on-social-media/	[21:14]
assbot	Drought Shaming Pitting Neighbors Against Neighbors On Social Media « CBS Sacramento	[21:14]
punkman	mircea_popescu: yea we'll see how that goes, though hanbot's allocation of BTC is slightly better than global bitbet allocation so far.	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	drought shaming lol	[21:14]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ^	[21:15]
asciilifeform	?	[21:15]
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mircea_popescu	a slighly scarce resource, and there are the informants,	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	there are the brown brigades,	[21:16]
asciilifeform	more interesting (linked from above) - http://now100fm.cbslocal.com/2014/07/09/weird-news-wednesday-waitresses-wear-guns-in-restaurant << notice the stock pic - who the hell has a soviet 'TT' ?!	[21:16]
assbot	Weird News Wednesday: Waitresses Wear Guns In Restaurant « NOW 100.5 FM	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	there's the whole story. "could not happen here"	[21:16]
asciilifeform	(bottom right hand corner of pic)	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	no, that's a cult gun	[21:17]
indiancandy1	i wonder what assange thinks of btc	[21:17]
mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 he loves it.	[21:17]
asciilifeform	http://demotivators.to/media/posters/1990/622228_luchshe-starenkij-tt-chem-dzyudo-i-karate.jpg << 'Лучше старенький ТТ чем дзюдо и карате' ~= 'better have an old TT, than judo and karate'	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	i dunno, they're god-awful	[21:19]
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asciilifeform	better than the 1890s seven-shooter that preceded it, by most accounts	[21:19]
indiancandy1	some seriose protests going on in london	[21:19]
indiancandy1	really bizzar	[21:19]
indiancandy1	free palestine mallarky	[21:20]
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mircea_popescu	!up stormlight	[21:21]
-assbot-	You voiced stormlight for 30 minutes.	[21:21]
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indiancandy1	go argentina	[21:21]
indiancandy1	mircea u having a wc party round urs	[21:21]
punkman	wonder if this is all the BTC wikileaks has now: https://blockchain.info/address/1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v	[21:22]
assbot	Bitcoin Address 1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v	[21:22]
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asciilifeform	punkman: just one mystery remains - why do they need coin.	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 the whole street's a party	[21:24]
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punkman	asciilifeform: seems like most of that was spent in December 2013	[21:27]
asciilifeform	punkman: but on what	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	new year's party ?	[21:28]
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indiancandy1	im so jelous	[21:30]
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indiancandy1	why didnt u buy me a ticket	[21:30]
indiancandy1	to come over	[21:30]
asciilifeform	indiancandy1: afaik mircea_popescu expects guests to buy own ticket	[21:31]
indiancandy1	his the billionair	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 because you didn't do whatever video.	[21:32]
asciilifeform	indiancandy1: (when friends visit you, do you pay their fare?)	[21:32]
indiancandy1	what is 700 usd to him	[21:32]
indiancandy1	im poor	[21:32]
indiancandy1	i have 2 flash my gash 4 cash	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	o.o	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	camho rap, who knew this was a thing	[21:32]
indiancandy1	0.0	[21:32]
indiancandy1	o.0	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 wait, are you a poor indian ?!	[21:33]
mthreat	define poor	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	mthreat "i have 2 flash my gash 4 cash" ?	[21:34]
indiancandy1	yap	[21:34]
indiancandy1	great definition	[21:34]
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indiancandy1	im a poor half indian/greek	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	now b-a really has everything.	[21:35]
indiancandy1	b a british airways?	[21:35]
indiancandy1	LOL	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	nah this chan. bitcoin-assets	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	or, alternatively, buenos aires. which is why i moved here, to troll b-a	[21:36]
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mircea_popescu	ambiguitytroling	[21:36]
indiancandy1	maybe coz the electricy is cheap there	[21:36]
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indiancandy1	and the chicks got fat ass	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	the ass is nice, that's true.	[21:36]
indiancandy1	ya	[21:37]
kyuupichan	mircea_popescu: In east Washington state they have insanely cheap electricity; there is a lot of mining going on there	[21:37]
indiancandy1	it is	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	kyuupichan no argument. but still.	[21:37]
indiancandy1	ass ass ass ass	[21:37]
indiancandy1	boobs?	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ <<< wtf happened here ?	[21:39]
assbot	Game 17 - Death 5082 Life 4918 Year 68 - War of Life	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	did i just win like .87 btc ?	[21:39]
indiancandy1	omg	[21:40]
indiancandy1	its my birthday	[21:40]
indiancandy1	:P	[21:40]
indiancandy1	gift me	[21:40]
indiancandy1	some	[21:40]
indiancandy1	has anyone got	[21:41]
indiancandy1	snapchat	[21:41]
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mircea_popescu	mnop	[21:43]
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indiancandy1	have you got a smart phone mircea	[21:44]
indiancandy1	or you got a stone age	[21:44]
indiancandy1	1	[21:44]
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mircea_popescu	nope	[21:44]
asciilifeform	!up indiancandy1	[21:44]
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indiancandy1	why not	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	i don't like them	[21:44]
indiancandy1	so how do u call ur mom	[21:44]
indiancandy1	n family back home	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	people use them to what, pretend like they're outside while pretending like they're on the computer ?	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	i'd rather do both of these well than mix them together into an unworkable porridge of shit.	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 i have a normal phone	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	AND a secretary.	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	well, more than one actually as it turns out	[21:45]
indiancandy1	does she give you bjs under the table	[21:45]
indiancandy1	or he*	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	notrly	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	that's a different skillset.	[21:46]
indiancandy1	i just thought u know bill clinton did it so	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	that was an aide.	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	no skillset.	[21:47]
asciilifeform	aide << 'secretute'	[21:48]
indiancandy1	secretute lmao	[21:48]
asciilifeform	секретутка.	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform amusingly enough, tuta pl tute is how you say stupid woman in romanian	[21:48]
indiancandy1	ascii are you romani aswell	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	well... one of the many ways	[21:48]
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asciilifeform	indiancandy1: nope	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	yes he is, he just doesn't want to admit to the romanian yoke :D	[21:48]
asciilifeform	indiancandy1: you ought to know they ditched cyrillic there in... 1870s?	[21:49]
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indiancandy1	can i ask something does the crystall ball thing actually work	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	;;8ball	[21:49]
gribble	No.	[21:49]
indiancandy1	atleast the goverment gave the gypsies all there gold back aye	[21:50]
*	asciilifeform saw the world's officially largest crystal ball a few days ago	[21:50]
asciilifeform	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_ball#mediaviewer/File:Quartz_crystal.jpg	[21:50]
assbot	Crystal ball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[21:50]
indiancandy1	os your in dc	[21:51]
indiancandy1	so*	[21:51]
indiancandy1	i kind of look like a romani gypsy	[21:51]
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asciilifeform	indiancandy1: 10km or so	[21:51]
indiancandy1	mp do u think i do	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	kinda	[21:52]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell mike_c http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aklhk/i_just_found_this_crazy_game_of_life_battle_with/ o look, making friends	[21:53]
assbot	I just found this crazy game of life battle with Bitcoin : Bitcoin	[21:53]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[21:53]
indiancandy1	people sometimes think i am	[21:53]
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indiancandy1	is romania in the mediternian sorry my geography is terible	[21:54]
asciilifeform	indiancandy1: maps.google.com	[21:54]
indiancandy1	or macedonia	[21:54]
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indiancandy1	help !! my webcam is pixelated	[21:55]
indiancandy1	on mfc do i fix this	[21:55]
punkman	you need to get a flux capacitor	[21:56]
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indiancandy1	any idea where i get this	[21:59]
indiancandy1	;;flux capacitor	[21:59]
gribble	Error: "flux" is not a valid command.	[21:59]
indiancandy1	;/	[21:59]
indiancandy1	;;fluxcapacitor	[21:59]
gribble	Error: "fluxcapacitor" is not a valid command.	[21:59]
asciilifeform	unrelated: anybody here own a 'Yeeloong' ?	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 black sea ctually, but quite close anyway	[22:01]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform is that the all-free-except-bios thing ?	[22:02]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: afaik it's the all-free-everything one	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	i thought the bios was still proprietary, lulziuly undermining the whole thing	[22:02]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/PMON_2000	[22:03]
assbot	PMON 2000 - LinuxMIPS	[22:03]
asciilifeform	that box doesn't even need much in the way of a bios. just a little bootloader stub.	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	wow score ?	[22:04]
indiancandy1	mircea when u goin home	[22:04]
indiancandy1	il meet u	[22:04]
indiancandy1	cheap flights i can afford romai	[22:04]
asciilifeform	the 'loongson' machine are virtually unobtainable in usa.	[22:04]
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mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 might be a decade.	[22:05]
indiancandy1	why	[22:05]
indiancandy1	where is ur mom	[22:05]
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mircea_popescu	romania	[22:05]
asciilifeform	'pmon' includes built-in gdb stub, apparently. neato.	[22:06]
indiancandy1	dont you go visit them	[22:06]
indiancandy1	how can you not see your mom for 10years	[22:06]
*	asciilifeform might have to break down & pay an importer	[22:06]
indiancandy1	btw did argentina win the wc then	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	they're playing it now	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform interesting.	[22:07]
*	asciilifeform wonders where stallman got his	[22:07]
indiancandy1	did you get exhiled from romania	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	nope	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	i was gone for about a decade before.	[22:09]
kakobrekla	asciilifeform perhaps online loongson	[22:09]
kakobrekla	eh	[22:09]
kakobrekla	http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/"Show%20models%201"	[22:09]
assbot	Show model Lemote Yeeloong 8101B 10" mini-laptop Pure White-- High-end GNU Linux mini laptop - Tekmote Electronics	[22:09]
kakobrekla	300eur	[22:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 175 @ 0.0168 = 2.94 BTC [+]	[22:09]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: that's the original. there's a nicer one, that has metallic chassis	[22:09]
kakobrekla	should have dropped by NL while in RO	[22:09]
kakobrekla	aha	[22:10]
indiancandy1	did you not see your mom since you was 25 :(	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	i only left romania recently.	[22:10]
kakobrekla	you mean this ascii: http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/CFL-008	[22:10]
assbot	Loongson 3A Notebook - Tekmote Electronics	[22:10]
asciilifeform	aha there it is.	[22:11]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: have one ?	[22:11]
kakobrekla	nope	[22:11]
kakobrekla	hm, looks like fagbook	[22:11]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: ever see a metallic chassis laptop that didn't ?	[22:12]
kakobrekla	dunno	[22:12]
kakobrekla	this	[22:12]
kakobrekla	http://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/tx_nbc2/CF-19_01.jpg	[22:12]
asciilifeform	laptop market, afaik, still reduced to a choice between 'fagbook' and 'turdbook'	[22:12]
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kakobrekla	as long as i can hammer nails with it.	[22:13]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: that's the u.s. mil spec machine. it's mostly plastic.	[22:13]
kakobrekla	really?	[22:13]
asciilifeform	and ludicrously heavy	[22:13]
kakobrekla	lol	[22:13]
asciilifeform	you can get them by the crate, surplus. nobody wants.	[22:13]
asciilifeform	at any rate, 'loongson' isn't interesting because of the mechanicals.	[22:14]
kakobrekla	this too? http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Dell-e6420-XFR_g2_edited-1.jpg	[22:14]
kakobrekla	i see some bolts	[22:14]
indiancandy1	hmmm	[22:14]
kakobrekla	from the topside	[22:14]
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kakobrekla	should be alu no?	[22:14]
asciilifeform	can't say i ever used one of these	[22:14]
asciilifeform	!up indiancandy1	[22:14]
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indiancandy1	thanks ascii	[22:15]
kakobrekla	anyway, you CAN indeed make it alu and not look like fagbook	[22:15]
kakobrekla	may look like toaster instead	[22:15]
kakobrekla	but point achieved.	[22:15]
*	asciilifeform wants a 'sovbook'	[22:15]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[22:18]
indiancandy1	so i showed my producer a video of me dancing at work yesterday and she said that there is spirits in the vide	[22:18]
indiancandy1	video	[22:18]
indiancandy1	freaked me right out	[22:18]
fluffypony	come on, Germany!	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	60% possession.	[22:19]
fluffypony	well there we go	[22:20]
fluffypony	some movement	[22:20]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: you back in Argentina? what's the buzz on the street like?	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony yeah. pretty loud.	[22:22]
fluffypony	I can imagine	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	you can distinctly hear the game out the window, to the degree of fouls, saves, etc.	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	whole street is packed. (well the fact that i live within a block of the equivalent of say the washington monument doesn't help)	[22:23]
fluffypony	crazy	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	they shot some pretty respectable cherry bombs in the few hours runup	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	(during which the street was packed with people waiting for the game to start)	[22:24]
indiancandy1	sounds wonderful	[22:24]
indiancandy1	u should join the festivities	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	i'd rather listen to blur in concert.	[22:25]
indiancandy1	heroin addicts	[22:26]
indiancandy1	lavely	[22:26]
indiancandy1	but so yea can you see this video	[22:26]
indiancandy1	and watch at 36 seconds a light shoots across the room	[22:26]
indiancandy1	my producer is telling me its a spirit orb	[22:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 202 @ 0.0132 = 2.6664 BTC [-] {3}	[22:27]
indiancandy1	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd8Wm7AOI3U	[22:27]
assbot	YouTube	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	o wow.	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	score eh ?	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	wait.	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	these people blew their fucking top off because a german got a yellow card ?	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	im fucking scared now.	[22:30]
fluffypony	lol	[22:30]
fluffypony	tense moment	[22:30]
indiancandy1	did u see the orb	[22:32]
fluffypony	indiancandy1: watching the soccer, so no	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony so fiverr has this glitch, whereby sometimes it gets paid for an order (via coinbase) but then... just ignores it. you ever had something like that happen ?	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	this is like the 3rd time.	[22:33]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: no not yet - I pay it and its reflected immediately every time I use it	[22:33]
fluffypony	same with Bitpay on Namecheap	[22:33]
fluffypony	I wonder if it's not trying to update via some ajax call and you've disabled js so it doesn't update?	[22:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 42 @ 0.02890175 = 1.2139 BTC [-]	[22:34]
mircea_popescu	possible i guess	[22:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 67 @ 0.01607462 = 1.077 BTC [+] {4}	[22:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8671 BTC [-]	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	kinda what i wanted to check, where to start the debug	[22:35]
fluffypony	if you refresh the page does it show up as paid?	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	(actually, more like i won't bother, it's not worth the occasional 5 bux to me.	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	if however it was a systemic problem, then yes)	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	mnop	[22:35]
fluffypony	waq	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	;;ud waq	[22:36]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=WAQ \| acronym for What A Queer. usually used in texts or photo comments. David sure does like to kneel in weird positions... WAQ!!! by squash89 April 25, 2011. 19 6.	[22:36]
fluffypony	hah hah	[22:37]
fluffypony	it's the fluffypony method of spelling wack	[22:37]
fluffypony	;;ud wack	[22:37]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wack \| Example 1: Tracy: I'm all that and a bag of chips!..and then some! Rob: Shut yo wack ass up!.. and gets off my Grill. Example 2: Tracy: What did u do last night?	[22:37]
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mircea_popescu	fluffypony apparently the problem only appears when using multipayment tx.	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	you ever did that ? owe for say a dozen jobs, pay out in 1 tx ?	[22:39]
fluffypony	no I haven't - only ever done 1 at a time	[22:39]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[22:39]
mircea_popescu	well, if anyone cares, it is the case coinbase may have a hole in how it handles multipayment txn then.	[22:39]
fluffypony	omfg so close	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	specifically, n-1 pages update and ty for the payment. but the nth... nope	[22:40]
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fluffypony	the Germans are all over the Argentinian goal	[22:44]
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mircea_popescu	yeah doesn't look so good for em	[22:46]
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cazalla	mircea_popescu: there's no black people in australia, also little crime	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	"Jeff Garzik @jgarzik · 5h Free business idea: Water heaters that mine #bitcoin. Decentralize mining and usefully shed excess heat, rather than waste it."	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	lol someone's reading b-a logs from last year ?	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	cazalla a ok then :p	[22:53]
kakobrekla	wait until they figure out you can do it on fpga.	[22:54]
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mircea_popescu	fluffypony this thing's going to penalty.	[22:55]
kakobrekla	anyway it doesnt work. they dont roi even if you run them 24/7 and heaters you dont.	[22:56]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: yeah I think so too	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla it'll work when the tech is stable.	[22:57]
kakobrekla	stable over 10 years ?	[22:58]
kakobrekla	right.	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	it'll happen, in spite of all the derpage re qc.	[22:58]
kakobrekla	in year 25 000 000	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	;;tslb	[22:58]
gribble	Time since last block: 2 minutes and 54 seconds	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla coupla decades.	[22:58]
fluffypony	wow bets365 add on Sky Sport gives you live betting odds (well 30 seconds old)	[22:58]
fluffypony	*ad	[22:58]
kakobrekla	the biggest problem with that idea is that we prolly wont be computing on silicone then	[22:59]
kakobrekla	you can hardly heat up anything with wetware for example	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	i think we will, yes. silicone will get pushed to the end by say 2040, where you CAN get faster processors but it's not economically worth it.	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	and then, 20-50-100 years spent trying to make wetware work.	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	there won't be any qc computing. ever.	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	and so in 2050ish, it'll make prefect sense to put in a water heater cum btc miner.	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	principaly because that'll be strictly the only type of water heater available	[23:01]
punkman	qc would make for a good longbet	[23:01]
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mircea_popescu	punkman my qc longbet is btc itself.	[23:01]
cazalla	mircea_popescu: i couldn't think of a witty retort at 6am so the autistic one will have to do :P	[23:01]
kakobrekla	ok so there might be a small window of stability which would allow for that idea to work, i give you that.	[23:02]
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mircea_popescu	yup	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	all heating is temporary anyway.	[23:02]
kakobrekla	id still bet this wont happen on a mass scale.	[23:03]
kakobrekla	window too small.	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla what do you think you'll heat yourself with in 2050 ? dead jews ?	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	very small rocks ?	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	memories of the great patriotic war ?	[23:04]
kakobrekla	prolly depends on the btc price.	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	humanity has no future outside of electricity anyway.	[23:04]
kakobrekla	ideally id have something like personal Toshiba 4S	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	small nuclear reactors aren't really worth it.	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	just build 100ish gw and be done with it	[23:09]
kakobrekla	but then the neighbors notice.	[23:11]
mircea_popescu	what neighbours	[23:11]
kakobrekla	:)	[23:11]
fluffypony	another yellow card, wtf	[23:24]
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mircea_popescu	yellow card all the people!	[23:30]
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mircea_popescu	did germany score ?	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	hm. no. street ppl just got pissed off.	[23:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 40 @ 0.01385 = 0.554 BTC [+]	[23:40]
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