Forum logs for 11 Apr 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
thestringpuller ;;ticker [00:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 184.46829, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 5.53171, Last trade: 180.44100, 24 hour volume: 143120.57221572, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 198.68487 [00:00]
thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc [00:00]
gribble 203.75 [00:00]
thestringpuller why...oh [00:00]
thestringpuller OH [00:00]
thestringpuller !ticker m S.MPOE [00:00]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069098 / 0.00070945 / 0.000715 (160086 shares, 113.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069029 / 0.00071514 (2045008 shares, 1,411.66 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068765 / 0.00077505 (9412586 shares, 6,472.64 BTC) [00:00]
thestringpuller ah ha [00:01]
ThickAsThieves The following is the amount of "BTC In" for SatoshiDice.com for the previous four 4-week periods: [00:01]
ThickAsThieves Jan 16th 1992532 [00:01]
ThickAsThieves Feb 13th 1174083 [00:01]
ThickAsThieves Mar 13th 240936 [00:01]
ThickAsThieves Apr 9th 121371 [00:01]
ThickAsThieves see a trend? [00:01]
bitesak no [00:01]
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ThickAsThieves Jan 16th 1992532 [00:02]
ThickAsThieves Feb 13th 1174083 [00:02]
ThickAsThieves Mar 13th 240936 [00:02]
ThickAsThieves Apr 9th 121371 [00:02]
pigeons better than when you were arguing nekkid [00:02]
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deadweasel price goes up, betting goes down. [00:02]
mircea_popescu half quarter half [00:02]
thestringpuller ;;asks 250 [00:02]
gribble There are currently 14360.402 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 3143389.44241 USD in total. | Data vintage: 93.6624 seconds [00:02]
deadweasel SDICE will rise! [00:02]
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thestringpuller ;;bids 130 [00:03]
gribble There are currently 16797.458 bitcoins demanded at or over 130.0 USD, worth 2542314.64368 USD in total. | Data vintage: 103.5214 seconds [00:03]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu ah the BCB chairman arrives [00:04]
ThickAsThieves feel free to verify, i was doing like 5 things at once (as usual) when i did the math [00:04]
bitesak ;;goxlag [00:04]
gribble MtGox lag is 421.129856 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.843939516219 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU). [00:04]
thestringpuller MPOE will rise [00:04]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [00:05]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 190.00000, Best ask: 198.90000, Bid-ask spread: 8.90000, Last trade: 198.90000, 24 hour volume: 144954.06230218, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 198.50794 [00:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.1238 BTC [-] [00:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.25500001 BTC [-] [00:05]
thestringpuller !ticker h klim [00:06]
assbot Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life. [00:06]
thestringpuller !ticker h kim [00:06]
assbot It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money. [00:06]
thestringpuller !ticker h him [00:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 0.75000001 / 1.10759322 / 1.20000000 (59 shares, 65.34800001 BTC), 7D: 0.75000001 / 1.52179593 / 1.93000000 (221 shares, 336.31690011 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.77008474 / 2.08000000 (806 shares, 1426.68829841 BTC) [00:07]
thestringpuller !ticker h vtx [00:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.18000000 / 0.25133697 / 0.30000000 (515 shares, 129.43853857 BTC), 7D: 0.18000000 / 0.30180003 / 0.47000000 (1667 shares, 503.10064405 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.41931029 / 0.79900000 (14627 shares, 6133.25156457 BTC) [00:07]
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mircea_popescu whoa him went to .75 ?! [00:08]
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ThickAsThieves is that the one that buys BFLs? [00:09]
mircea_popescu iirc. [00:09]
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thestringpuller yea i warned them too [00:10]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [00:10]
gribble MtGox lag is 40.02897 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0802176076933 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU). [00:10]
thestringpuller I wrote them an email explaining with the non-linear increase in difficulty and them not having a contingency plan for BFL labs non-delivery, there would be a run on the stock as dividends don't increase over time. [00:10]
thestringpuller Looks like people pulled out and went to ASICMINER : [00:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.003205 BTC [-] [00:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 68 @ 0.003205 = 0.2179 BTC [-] [00:11]
mircea_popescu " ‏@stacyherbert 6m [00:11]
mircea_popescu My friend tried buying 100 bitcoin tonight at $220, then at $200, then at $175. Mt.Gox would ONLY fill it at $140." [00:11]
mircea_popescu so much win [00:11]
Bowjob lol [00:11]
thestringpuller trading with the past? [00:12]
Bowjob ;;goxlag [00:12]
gribble MtGox lag is 94.566716 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.189510640042 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU). [00:12]
Bowjob it got worse [00:12]
Bowjob ;;ticker [00:12]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 195.12195, Best ask: 198.40000, Bid-ask spread: 3.27805, Last trade: 198.40000, 24 hour volume: 146479.39685151, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 198.18480 [00:12]
ThickAsThieves amazing [00:12]
thestringpuller was it the goxlag that caused it? or is shit going to get worse? [00:12]
ThickAsThieves imo another big dip to take profit is totally possible [00:12]
novusordo imo anything is possible [00:13]
ThickAsThieves imo you are correct [00:13]
mircea_popescu totally. [00:13]
kakobrekla over 200 [00:13]
kakobrekla ;;ticker --last [00:13]
gribble 198.97000 [00:13]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [00:13]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 199.98000, Best ask: 203.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.02000, Last trade: 203.00000, 24 hour volume: 146479.39685151, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 198.18480 [00:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.25 = 1 BTC [-] [00:13]
pgp I think another opportunity to sell... [00:14]
pizzaman1337 seriously back to $200 already? wow [00:14]
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Bugpowda yeah for sure [00:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00304 BTC [+] [00:14]
Bugpowda time to dump [00:14]
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ThickAsThieves yep [00:14]
Bugpowda probably will be too slpw [00:14]
Bugpowda too slow [00:14]
Bowjob lets dump fiat [00:14]
Bugpowda due to gox lag [00:15]
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Bugpowda it usually oscillates 2-3 cycles of decreasing amplitude after big moves [00:15]
thestringpuller !ticker m ^OIX [00:16]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.50099848 / 224.19815089 / 226.07089967 (13815 shares, 2,358.38 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [00:16]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.2385 = 2.385 BTC [-] [00:17]
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Bowjob ;;goxlag [00:18]
gribble MtGox lag is 171.222393 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.343127758471 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU). [00:18]
Bowjob even goxlag is lagging [00:18]
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kakobrekla http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png [00:19]
kakobrekla hehe [00:19]
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pizzaman1337 where are our options... [00:20]
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pizzaman1337 mpexbot needs a better data source [00:20]
mircea_popescu i agree. [00:20]
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pgp any link to latest communications from BFL regarding delivery - I'm looking to ammuse myself... [00:21]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165500.msg1796232#msg1796232 [00:21]
mircea_popescu amuse away [00:21]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171036.msg1795415#msg1795415 [00:24]
mircea_popescu also pretty good [00:24]
Namworld man... these are some good wads of cash I made [00:24]
ThickAsThieves mp would it be possible for you to develop relationships directly with your approved exchanged to become a "real" price index? [00:24]
ThickAsThieves get the info directly [00:24]
ThickAsThieves exchanges* [00:25]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: has no approved exchanges [00:25]
mircea_popescu it would be possible yes but not desirable. [00:25]
gesell ;;goxlag [00:25]
gribble MtGox lag is 295.600707 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.592380507118 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU). [00:25]
ThickAsThieves because you dont want the work/responsibility? [00:26]
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mircea_popescu because i don't want to be the judge executioner and everything else. [00:27]
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ThickAsThieves makes sense [00:28]
Chilca_ ;;goxlag [00:28]
gribble MtGox lag is 314.06204 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.629376811746 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU). [00:28]
mircea_popescu don't get me wrong, i too would love to be in a better reality. [00:28]
mircea_popescu but, this is the on;y one we got. [00:28]
ThickAsThieves any candidates you think could fill the role if they tried? [00:29]
ThickAsThieves I nominate Ukto [00:29]
mircea_popescu well how would i know. [00:29]
mircea_popescu easier to tell once the thing's done and working [00:29]
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Ukto I humbly decline. [00:30]
Ukto I do not like playing Judge. [00:30]
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Ukto Executioner sure. :P [00:30]
Ukto But thats a different story. ;) [00:30]
ThickAsThieves booo [00:31]
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* Ukto puts the judge wig on ThickAsThieves and hands him a Scythe [00:32]
jborkl_ btc e 175 [00:32]
ThickAsThieves if i had the ability i would [00:32]
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ThickAsThieves way out of my area [00:32]
ThickAsThieves who runs bitcoinity? [00:33]
thestringpuller comboy [00:33]
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jborkl_ lol, watching trollbox on btce [00:33]
Bugpowda I love that Usagi wants to take over the BAKEWELL security [00:33]
Ukto jborkl_: wait, btce is up? :P [00:33]
kakobrekla uhh? [00:34]
jborkl_ it is for me [00:34]
jborkl_ it only went down for a minute [00:34]
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pgp mp: i love the "the movie-and-a-burger asset" comment... [00:35]
kakobrekla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI4fVgVVpiw [00:36]
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kakobrekla a little late with the vid. [00:36]
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kakobrekla but yea [00:36]
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mircea_popescu pgp no but srsly. da people are done complaining about mpex fee [00:37]
mircea_popescu now it's the 1 btc [00:37]
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Enky ;;goxlag [00:39]
gribble MtGox lag is 107.761137 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.215952111994 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU). [00:39]
Enky ;;ticker [00:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 176.10000, Best ask: 186.90000, Bid-ask spread: 10.80000, Last trade: 186.90000, 24 hour volume: 155464.04726133, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 197.51465 [00:39]
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Bowjob dat spread [00:41]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172596.msg1795924#msg1795924 [00:41]
mircea_popescu looky! wolv solved the ddos problem [00:41]
Bowjob We're taking the night off. We are not accepting new orders tonight (Wednesday Apr 10). Seriously, forget the Bitcoin Charts/Prices. Go for a walk, take a bath, go to the spa. Yes all pending orders will be processed, and Yes we'll be back to normal tomorrow. and no we were NOT hacked. [00:42]
Bowjob According to canadian bitcoins [00:42]
Bowjob xD [00:42]
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mod6 wat [00:43]
mircea_popescu lolwut [00:43]
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ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [00:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 176.00000, Best ask: 179.98000, Bid-ask spread: 3.98000, Last trade: 170.02999, 24 hour volume: 157519.54743859, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 197.21062 [00:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [00:45]
gribble MtGox lag is 111.797675 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.224041288951 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU). [00:45]
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KRS1 LOL@WOLV [00:45]
ThickAsThieves sad that 111s is now respectable [00:45]
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KRS1 yeah...we'll just put UDP traffic from a bunch of hosts into a nice little php/html form and email it back. [00:46]
ThickAsThieves lucif knows whats up https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.msg1791777#msg1791777 [00:46]
KRS1 <[yAK]> i was actually getting 300khash by putting a coat hanger into one of the pci express slots [00:46]
TomServo lolwut [00:47]
KRS1 litecoins are strange [00:47]
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mircea_popescu totally. [00:48]
jborkl_ $160 [00:48]
KRS1 who'd ever think of using a coat hanger..i should stick a fork in one of my bitcoin mining rigs to see if that helps. [00:49]
Bowjob http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/5165756a6bb3f7ea1c00000d-803-601/bitcoin-billionaire-2.png [00:50]
Bowjob Wooh [00:50]
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cole_albon ;;ticker [00:53]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 162.00000, Best ask: 162.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 162.01000, 24 hour volume: 160814.65103316, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 196.46287 [00:53]
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Bowjob ;;goxlag [00:54]
gribble MtGox lag is 82.196653 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.164721172292 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU). [00:54]
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TomServo custom leather products < ahahahah [00:55]
TomServo that's too great [00:55]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [01:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 152.68000, Best ask: 153.98000, Bid-ask spread: 1.30000, Last trade: 152.68000, 24 hour volume: 164938.44701010, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 195.33394 [01:00]
mod6 yeah headed south [01:00]
punkman "@DavidClinchNews: We can laugh at Bitcoin but real guys, in real basements, are losing real fake money right now." [01:01]
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ThickAsThieves lol [01:02]
ThickAsThieves thats pretty funny [01:02]
KRS1 im gonna google suicide over loss of btc and see what floats up [01:02]
KRS1 it appears you guys have blood on your hands already.. [01:03]
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mircea_popescu lol punkman [01:04]
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Bowjob ;;goxlag [01:06]
gribble MtGox lag is 120.367893 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.241215909866 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU). [01:06]
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joecool lol [01:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [01:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+] [01:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12352 @ 0.00068568 = 8.4695 BTC [-] [01:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3748 @ 0.00068433 = 2.5649 BTC [-] [01:07]
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ThickAsThieves the REAL selling session has begin [01:09]
ThickAsThieves bgun* [01:09]
ThickAsThieves ... [01:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.73 = 2.92 BTC [+] [01:10]
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KRS1 wtf@ http://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/04/10/how-the-looming-bitcoin-crash-will-be-exploited-by-globalists-to-outlaw-decentralized-crypto-currencies/ [01:11]
KRS1 "The velocity of bitcoins is a huge red alert" [01:12]
pgp that's what I'm talking about... [01:12]
KRS1 this writing sounds a little f'd up [01:12]
KRS1 doesnt hold water imo [01:12]
Bugpowda time to buy [01:13]
pgp same guy is pestering US government for Area 51 docs [01:13]
Bugpowda 132.1 [01:13]
KRS1 ty bugpowder [01:13]
Bugpowda the oscillation will go up from here [01:13]
pgp i'm telling you, we're back down [01:13]
pgp i don't think it's done yet [01:13]
Bugpowda My asks got filled at 198 [01:13]
Bugpowda my bid at 151 was too high [01:14]
Bugpowda got filled [01:14]
pgp gotta love second chance selling, though... [01:14]
Bugpowda now hoping for 131.1 [01:14]
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Bugpowda It does a damped osciallation EVERY TIME. usually the magnitude is too small to trade due to fees, but this one is SO BIG, the fees dont matter. [01:15]
mircea_popescu KRS1 the nutsos are moving in [01:15]
mircea_popescu Bugpowda classic time arbing [01:15]
Bugpowda filled@ 131.1 [01:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01249 BTC [+] [01:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0125 BTC [+] [01:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.013 BTC [+] [01:16]
pgp bp: I agree with theory, but not that we necessarily go back up after attentuation of occillilations... [01:16]
Enky ;;ticker [01:16]
Scrat fuck is this, I thought we were back at 200? [01:16]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.44000, Best ask: 130.01111, Bid-ask spread: 0.57111, Last trade: 130.01111, 24 hour volume: 173037.17370943, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 192.39910 [01:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [+] [01:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0175 BTC [+] [01:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.017959 = 0.0359 BTC [+] [01:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.73 = 10.95 BTC [+] [01:17]
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ThickAsThieves its gonna go below 120 [01:17]
Bugpowda its possible [01:18]
Bugpowda I have bids down there too [01:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 49 @ 0.017999 = 0.882 BTC [+] [01:18]
Chilca_ ;;goxlag [01:18]
gribble MtGox lag is 189.333507 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.379422228144 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU). [01:18]
Chilca_ ;;ticker [01:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1016 BTC [+] [01:18]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [01:19]
Chilca_ ;;ticker [01:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1017 BTC [+] [01:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1018 BTC [+] [01:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1019 = 0.9171 BTC [+] [01:19]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.21951, Best ask: 129.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.78049, Last trade: 129.00000, 24 hour volume: 173862.61424907, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 192.07380 [01:19]
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thestringpuller ;;bids 100 [01:20]
gribble There are currently 26980.866 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2872092.44501 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.7765 seconds [01:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 4 @ 0.018 = 0.072 BTC [-] [01:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01996 BTC [+] [01:21]
Namworld yeah... the few bitcoins I sold right at the top of the bubble could almost pay for enough bitcoins to settle of my whole BTC-BOND [01:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 20 @ 0.024989 = 0.4998 BTC [+] [01:21]
Namworld but we ain't seen the bottom of this crash [01:21]
thestringpuller lol now I have to hold for my calls at 194 lolol [01:21]
Namworld I executed my calls some time ago... [01:22]
thestringpuller shit could be worse [01:22]
deadweasel so glad i exercised midday. [01:22]
Namworld Everything going superfine here [01:22]
thestringpuller My break even was at 243 24hprc which never came [01:22]
deadweasel balls, like the 212s, whoops! [01:22]
Bugpowda GOD DAMN GOX [01:22]
thestringpuller the price plummeting is going to help mpoe [01:22]
Bugpowda lagggged [01:23]
thestringpuller !ticker m mpoe [01:23]
assbot The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow. [01:23]
deadweasel my faith is in the chinese tonight. [01:23]
thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe [01:23]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068433 / 0.00070689 / 0.000715 (163886 shares, 115.85 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069025 / 0.00071514 (2061108 shares, 1,422.69 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068765 / 0.00077505 (9428686 shares, 6,483.68 BTC) [01:23]
MJR_ hmmmm [01:23]
MJR_ is anyone selling calls? [01:23]
Bugpowda FILLED another 100BTC. [01:23]
Bugpowda 13011. [01:23]
thestringpuller you have 13011 btc? [01:23]
thestringpuller THE FUCK? [01:23]
Bugpowda 130.11 [01:23]
benkay_ ;;ticker [01:23]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 130.00000, Best ask: 130.95306, Bid-ask spread: 0.95306, Last trade: 130.95306, 24 hour volume: 174798.60877076, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 191.69492 [01:23]
deadweasel http://bitcoinity.org/markets lol at oscar the grouch [01:23]
benkay_ ;;goxlag [01:24]
gribble MtGox lag is 219.05474 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.438983246301 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU). [01:24]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [01:24]
Bugpowda Here comes the bounce bitches. [01:24]
Bugpowda picked up 400 down here [01:25]
MJR_ NICE [01:25]
guruvan sweet Bugpowda [01:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [01:26]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [01:26]
gribble MtGox lag is 194.482047 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.389739844658 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU). [01:26]
ThickAsThieves careful [01:26]
ThickAsThieves could still touch 120 [01:26]
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joecool !GOXLAG [01:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [01:28]
KRS1 recovering [01:28]
ThickAsThieves lagging [01:28]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [01:28]
gribble MtGox lag is 174.694313 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.350085447277 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU). [01:28]
joecool wtf gribble [01:28]
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Bugpowda ;;ticker [01:33]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.11000, Best ask: 160.00534, Bid-ask spread: 8.89534, Last trade: 150.00000, 24 hour volume: 178878.97216569, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 190.19810 [01:33]
Bugpowda BOW DOWN BITCHES [01:33]
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Bugpowda fucking love bitcoin [01:33]
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deadweasel haha, awesome Bugpowda [01:33]
thestringpuller ;;seen mircea_popescu [01:33]
gribble mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 minutes and 6 seconds ago: Bugpowda classic time arbing [01:33]
deadweasel if not for you, I would not have made my calls today. thank u. [01:33]
deadweasel or exercised them anyhow [01:33]
MJR_ i do too [01:33]
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MJR_ for trading, volatility is so much fun [01:34]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: hey do you still have that picture showing the tweets correlating to bitcoin price saying "proof bitcoin isn't a ponzi" [01:34]
Bugpowdeer OK now to set the exit points [01:34]
KRS1 volatility is where its at [01:34]
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KRS1 ive been making cash off ltc..up/down daily [01:35]
ThickAsThieves wow [01:36]
ThickAsThieves 175 [01:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.102 = 0.51 BTC [+] [01:36]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [01:36]
gribble MtGox lag is 119.363752 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.239203622545 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU). [01:36]
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Bugpowdeer so for the record, In at 133, 121, out at 198, in at 151, 132, 130, 130, out at?? [01:37]
deadweasel 364 [01:37]
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Bugpowdeer 177.89 partial fill [01:38]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [01:38]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 170.00000, Best ask: 171.25187, Bid-ask spread: 1.25187, Last trade: 175.00000, 24 hour volume: 179884.35082268, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.82739 [01:38]
thestringpuller going back down [01:38]
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punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172009.msg1790293#msg1790293 "people are paying homage to Satoshi by sending him bitcoins.  Bitcoin is now a religion." [01:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.122 BTC [-] [01:42]
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mod6 has anyone used bitfinex? [01:44]
thestringpuller why isn't the bot quoting? [01:45]
thestringpuller ;;goxlag [01:45]
gribble MtGox lag is 162.992865 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.326635876501 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU). [01:45]
joecool gribble is trolling [01:45]
mod6 thestringpuller: you mean mpex? [01:45]
thestringpuller yessir [01:45]
mod6 i have no idea [01:45]
thestringpuller mod6: is the bot qoting with stat? [01:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] [01:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 14 @ 0.122 = 1.708 BTC [-] [01:46]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [01:46]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 160.01000, Best ask: 165.00000, Bid-ask spread: 4.99000, Last trade: 160.01000, 24 hour volume: 181176.23438337, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.55892 [01:46]
thestringpuller this is absurd [01:46]
mod6 i can issue commands to the exachange, buy|sell|stat but the bot has vaporized since the selling began [01:46]
mod6 this happened last time there was a large sell off too :/ [01:46]
thestringpuller this is awesome [01:46]
thestringpuller I may have lost money on calls (or not the month still has 19 days left) [01:46]
KRS1 can i use a bot to trade on public exchanges [01:47]
thestringpuller but man this is BEAUTIFUL [01:47]
KRS1 cant stand using the web interfaces [01:47]
mod6 KRS1: me either. so i wrote unix tools for mpex. much happier :) [01:48]
KRS1 i bet [01:48]
mod6 well, at first I used to do all the orders by hand [01:48]
KRS1 its been a while since i played with a perl bot [01:49]
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KRS1 mod6 that must have felt like another life to you haha [01:49]
mod6 heheh. [01:49]
KRS1 i'd love to learn how to trade on the mpex and what not..still learning but still have an investment in btc [01:49]
thestringpuller the volatility is at an all time high!!!! [01:49]
thestringpuller Jesus fucking christ [01:50]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C215T] 1 @ 0.2173294 BTC [+] [01:50]
mod6 it had certainly been a while since i'd made any perl tools. but i'm glad that i made some now. [01:50]
KRS1 need to figure out how to buy/sell quickly during times like this [01:50]
thestringpuller the bot is quoting? [01:50]
KRS1 i love perl [01:50]
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KRS1 i think its because i learned pascal back in 90 [01:50]
thestringpuller how the fuck did that order go through? [01:50]
mod6 well, if you have an mpex account, you can certainly use these: https://github.com/modsix/bitotter_perl [01:51]
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KRS1 ah there we go [01:51]
mod6 i <3 perl too, python can suck my ass [01:51]
KRS1 haha yeah [01:51]
KRS1 im with you bro [01:51]
mod6 :] [01:51]
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KRS1 and thank you very much for writing that [01:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] [01:51]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [01:52]
mod6 no worries. hope it'll help someone out if uses it. let me know if you need help or whatever. [01:52]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 150.50000, Best ask: 157.49999, Bid-ask spread: 6.99999, Last trade: 157.50000, 24 hour volume: 181970.84476366, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.03489 [01:52]
mod6 we're in #BitOTTer also [01:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [01:52]
KRS1 k thx [01:53]
troic_ ;;bids 0 [01:53]
gribble There are currently 42473977 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9588602.81013 USD in total. | Data vintage: 65.6944 seconds [01:53]
thestringpuller the bulls are waking up [01:54]
mod6 i was asking about bitfinex just cause this guy in -otc mentioned it to me since i called Gox a jackwagon [01:56]
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mod6 i went to the website, but it seems that it's all sort of behind the scenes and what not [01:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [-] [01:56]
mod6 i guess they have leverage there ... hmm. scary. [01:58]
mod6 sounds like another icbit [01:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [-] [01:58]
thestringpuller icbit is down right? [01:58]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [01:59]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.00000, Best ask: 143.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 142.00000, 24 hour volume: 181056.34284909, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 187.38060 [01:59]
mod6 thestringpuller: no clue, i've never used it. [01:59]
benkay_ is *everyone* ddossed right now? [01:59]
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thestringpuller yessir [02:00]
mod6 seems to be a lot of attacks being reported [02:00]
Scrat benkay_: yep seems like someone used "*" in their botnet console [02:00]
thestringpuller XD [02:00]
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benkay_ i want a botnet [02:00]
mod6 mircea_popescu: what happened to the mpoe bot? [02:00]
mod6 just unplugged until a bottom is reached? [02:01]
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unbalanced_ It relies on bitcoincharts for 24hr vwap [02:01]
ThickAsThieves $avg [02:01]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [02:01]
ThickAsThieves ;;bc,24hprc [02:02]
gribble Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later. [02:02]
unbalanced_ No feed, no vwap, no bot quotes [02:02]
mod6 ok. [02:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+] [02:02]
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benkay_ ;;goxlag [02:03]
gribble MtGox lag is 39.813814 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0797864374783 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU). [02:03]
benkay_ as depressing as it is [02:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.26 = 0.52 BTC [+] [02:03]
benkay_ that's a reassuring number. [02:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2785 BTC [+] [02:04]
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kakobrekla :) [02:05]
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mod6 ok well no wonder it goes down every time [02:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.275 = 0.55 BTC [-] [02:08]
mod6 everytime that gox shits its pants, so does bitcoincharts [02:08]
benkay_ astonishing that nobody caches this data [02:08]
thestringpuller it's astonishing that the price is still volatile after the sell off hours ago [02:09]
ThickAsThieves many didnt have a chance to sell off earlier [02:09]
thestringpuller a traditional market would have shut off completely [02:09]
thestringpuller VWAP is still in the 180's [02:09]
ThickAsThieves i know wall st does that, but do currency exchanges do that? [02:09]
benkay_ what's the rationale behind that? [02:10]
benkay_ holding trading, that is [02:10]
benkay_ move beyond market participants panic state? [02:10]
MJR_ benkay [02:11]
bVector thestringpuller: icbit has been up throughout the day, no downtime noted [02:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+] [02:11]
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thestringpuller !ticker h KCIM [02:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK:KCIM] 1D: 0.99520001 / 1.03657501 / 1.15000000 (16 shares, 16.58520009 BTC), 7D: 0.99520001 / 1.12171273 / 1.20900000 (55 shares, 61.69420011 BTC), 30D: 0.99500000 / 1.13147209 / 1.39999000 (205 shares, 231.95177822 BTC) [02:12]
burnside gonna be traveling for the next week or so. any inquiries PM me on the forums or send a support request via btct.co. [02:12]
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mircea_popescu mod6 if bitcoincharts is retarded bot can't quote. [02:15]
mircea_popescu i've not unplugged anything. [02:16]
mod6 gotcha. [02:16]
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naemsi What are people using as gox alternatives? [02:17]
benkay_ there's campbx [02:18]
benkay_ i'm trying them out [02:18]
naemsi thx [02:19]
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gesell ;;ticker [02:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.26402, Best ask: 152.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.73598, Last trade: 152.00000, 24 hour volume: 182131.60623678, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 186.21706 [02:22]
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ThickAsThieves so many of these gox trades are silly little bot amount [02:24]
ThickAsThieves s [02:24]
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naemsi benkay_: wow, that's weak. It allowed me to create a non-alphanumeric username but won't allow me to log in with it. :/ [02:25]
MJR_ bitfloor [02:25]
naemsi MJR_: thanks [02:26]
mircea_popescu lol securitah [02:26]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.275 = 0.825 BTC [-] [02:28]
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mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238577/Maria-Santos-Gorrostieta-executed-surviving-assassination-attempts.html [02:35]
mircea_popescu so they finally got her. [02:35]
ThickAsThieves wow. [02:38]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that's the kind of thing I mean by "X can also have problems." [02:42]
orkaa huh [02:43]
mircea_popescu ya, shooting rural women mayors, very impressive. [02:43]
orkaa she had some drama in her life [02:43]
orkaa but sad story anyway [02:43]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C167T] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+] [02:44]
ThickAsThieves $avg [02:44]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 189.06 [02:44]
mod6 thank dog, the mpoe bot is back [02:45]
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MJR_ i finally got socket.io to work with java [02:45]
MJR_ i am the happiest guy in the world [02:45]
MJR_ unfortunately, i can't get it to work over ssl [02:45]
mircea_popescu o hey, bitcoincharts livesd [02:45]
gesell ;;goxlag [02:46]
gribble MtGox lag is 2.21016 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00442913589382 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU). [02:46]
pizzaman1337 oh hey, mpexbot lives too [02:46]
mircea_popescu they're related [02:47]
pizzaman1337 ;;bc,24hprc [02:47]
gribble 189.06 [02:47]
pizzaman1337 yeah, but sometimes bitcoincharts is "kinda" up and mpexbot doesn't place orders [02:47]
mircea_popescu well it has to get an answer when it asks sorta thing [02:48]
pizzaman1337 how often does it retry if it fails to get a response? [02:48]
gesell ;;goxlag [02:49]
gribble MtGox lag is 20.926272 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0419360147858 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU). [02:49]
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gesell sorry, mpexbot is what controls gribble? is gribble getting its numbers from bitcoincharts? [02:50]
mircea_popescu well often-ish, but trying to also not kill the service [02:50]
mircea_popescu balancing act. [02:50]
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mircea_popescu gesell the 24hprc is from bitcoincharts yesd [02:50]
gesell aaah yeah [02:50]
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pizzaman1337 look like they're only returning EUR and USD for currencies now, maybe that'll ease their load: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ [02:52]
pigeons ;;ticker --currency cad [02:52]
gribble BTCCAD ticker | Best bid: 158.41987, Best ask: 165.39963, Bid-ask spread: 6.97976, Last trade: 163.21575, 24 hour volume: 701.68925062, 24 hour low: 106.20810, 24 hour high: 270.77398, 24 hour vwap: 198.09981 [02:52]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [02:52]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 155.10300, Best ask: 155.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.89699, Last trade: 156.00000, 24 hour volume: 188103.95597068, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 185.00224 [02:52]
mircea_popescu , 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, [02:54]
mircea_popescu epic. [02:54]
bowjob so people who bought calls got burned this time [02:55]
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mircea_popescu it'd depend what calls they bought. [02:56]
mircea_popescu month started around 90. [02:56]
bowjob mhm [02:57]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172471.0 this is fulla win. usagi is taking over something or the other. [02:57]
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MJR_ it is so funny how expectations change the story [03:02]
MJR_ sad really [03:02]
MJR_ when we were at 80 [03:02]
MJR_ i think 2 weeks ago? [03:02]
MJR_ people would have been thrilled to hear we would be at 160 [03:02]
MJR_ but once you've hit 265 for no reason at all...now 160 isn't good? [03:02]
mod6 haha. true MJR_ [03:03]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [03:03]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 9136646.06287 based on data since last change | 9622630.79435 based on data for last three days [03:03]
ThickAsThieves ! [03:03]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [03:03]
gribble 68882.525336 [03:03]
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benkay_ people call me [03:07]
benkay_ say "omg crash" [03:07]
benkay_ i blink and say "srsly? you care about one day's movement?" [03:07]
benkay_ call me if we're ever down week over week; whichever cryptocurrency is popular at the time might actually have hit a steady-state value at that point [03:08]
pizzaman1337 looks like we have some healthy support at 160, http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png [03:08]
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mircea_popescu benkay_ for every person that matters there's 1k+ people with a btc or less. [03:10]
mircea_popescu for every person with 1 btc or less there's 1k+ people with a bunch of social media accounts. [03:11]
mircea_popescu the resulting noise from all this amplification... [03:11]
KRS1 that graph looks like the price will drop [03:11]
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benkay_ isn't that the future of the currency distribution anyways? lots of people holding tiny amounts? [03:11]
benkay_ mircea_popescu? [03:11]
KRS1 will the network keep up? [03:11]
MJR_ well the cream rises to the top [03:12]
mircea_popescu probably. [03:12]
Scrat we are the 1% [03:12]
Scrat occupy -assets [03:12]
KRS1 im always worried about the network unable to facilitate transactions [03:12]
benkay_ .001 hopefully [03:12]
mircea_popescu but the thing is, to 99.99% of people "involved, their involvement is just saying the name [03:12]
mircea_popescu bitcoin [03:12]
mircea_popescu for 99% of people involved, their involvement is less than a decent meal. [03:12]
bowjob ;;ticker [03:12]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 167.00000, Best ask: 167.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 167.00000, 24 hour volume: 190512.24561499, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 184.31487 [03:12]
MJR_ they need to say the name 3 times in a dark room into a mirror [03:12]
mircea_popescu this somehow is disproportionate to the attention, almost as if the less skin in the game, the more theorizing etc. [03:13]
KRS1 i've tried that..bitcoins from heaven does not come [03:13]
MJR_ http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c2u1x/operation_foolscoin/ [03:13]
KRS1 i cant even begin to count all the coins i sold for dimes [03:13]
KRS1 i would have been able to retire [03:13]
ThickAsThieves that support at 160 is probly price manip [03:13]
ThickAsThieves 1 big wal [03:14]
ThickAsThieves l [03:14]
MJR_ maybe [03:14]
MJR_ i think they accomplished their goal already [03:14]
MJR_ they got coins cheap [03:14]
MJR_ by the way, did anyone see CNBC "MARKET WATCH: Bitcoin Bubble Burst?" [03:15]
MJR_ like its a fed announcement, lol [03:15]
mircea_popescu lol [03:15]
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benkay_ mircea_popescu, even my hairdresser understands that a deflationary currency is worth more tomorrow [03:15]
mircea_popescu that's pretty huge for btc really. [03:15]
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MJR_ yeah [03:16]
mircea_popescu i mean... people see it "bust" and still worth more than the dollar. [03:16]
MJR_ i mean, i think the fact that we bounce back after a 3x (by price) bigger drop than the 2011 crash [03:16]
MJR_ speaks to the fact that this is here [03:16]
MJR_ and its not going anywhere [03:16]
gesell every time i refresh http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png i get a different image and sccale [03:16]
MJR_ peace out all [03:18]
MJR_ vires in numeris [03:18]
MJR_ lol [03:18]
gesell ciao MJR_ [03:19]
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mod6 they talk about it here on CNBC @ ~4:00 => http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?play=1&video=3000160452 [03:20]
mod6 ugh [03:20]
mod6 Maria: "... But Bill, where's the money!" [03:21]
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mod6 well, i guess ~4:30 mins in [03:22]
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mod6 Santelli interviewed the BTC ATM guy a week or so ago. That was kinda neat. [03:23]
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deadweasel they really wana squash gold. [03:26]
gesell ;;goxlag [03:27]
gribble MtGox lag is 0.545224 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00109262279137 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU). [03:27]
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KRS1 . [11:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1048 @ 0.00069712 = 0.7306 BTC [-] [11:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.77 = 2.31 BTC [-] [11:41]
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bgupta so curious.. what kind of crack pipe are the gox ks smoking if they think that it's a sign of success that their shitty trading system caused a flashcrash? [11:46]
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mircea_popescu bgupta they have been pulling that deluded crap pretty much as their signature since 2011. [11:53]
bgupta they were honest.. but I was like "you are celebrating this".. mmm guess they made a ton of commissions so they were in the mood to celebrate? [11:55]
punkman do they still take Magic cards? [11:55]
punkman I should sent them a few boxes via freight [11:55]
bgupta As far as I know that guy is doing something else now. (Sold the exchange) [11:56]
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mircea_popescu bgupta honesty apparently means different things to different people. [11:59]
bgupta they basically said "yay the market crashed because our systems couldn't keep up with demand! we rock!!" [12:01]
bitesak ;;ticker [12:02]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 163.00001, Best ask: 163.38999, Bid-ask spread: 0.38998, Last trade: 163.00000, 24 hour volume: 244646.64497220, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 177.15869 [12:02]
Scrat bgupta: pathetic [12:03]
bgupta Scrat: Don't know if you read it: https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130411.html [12:10]
Scrat bgupta: i did, i replied to the forum post [12:11]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/ [12:12]
mircea_popescu my latest evil. [12:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8015 @ 0.00070632 = 5.6612 BTC [+] [12:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00149 BTC [-] [12:17]
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ZedsterX your page not available here MP [12:17]
Scrat gox is down [12:17]
Scrat ;;goxlag [12:18]
ZedsterX you getting DDoSed or overload? :) [12:18]
kakobrekla gox said they were going down [12:18]
kakobrekla to add more server [12:18]
kakobrekla cause success [12:18]
gribble Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later. [12:18]
mircea_popescu ZedsterX gah looking into this [12:19]
Scrat kakobrekla: he said in the next 12 to 24 hours [12:19]
ZedsterX no problem after yesterdays crash i can't afford to read your articles :) [12:19]
kakobrekla maybe they were including goxlag or smth into dat [12:19]
Scrat right now it's 4 hours after the press release [12:19]
Scrat lol [12:19]
bgupta mtgox website down? [12:20]
bgupta nvm [12:21]
dub maintenance [12:21]
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bgupta ok they should do this more often.. I'd be able to get more work done ;) [12:22]
dub https://www.facebook.com/MtGox?ref=stream [12:22]
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bgupta Gox has crashed.. gonna sell all my btc for $1 each on otc.. brb... [12:23]
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mircea_popescu mkay this is a significant increase in ddos. [12:25]
ZedsterX up now MP [12:25]
mircea_popescu i doubt they've crashed. i think they got a taste of 200mbps [12:25]
mircea_popescu okay, everyone get your trades through if you were contemplating anything [12:27]
mircea_popescu this promises to be a bumpy weekend. [12:27]
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Scrat my anus is ready [12:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5698 @ 0.00070858 = 4.0375 BTC [+] [12:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1652 @ 0.00069712 = 1.1516 BTC [-] [12:29]
ZedsterX Scrat: TMI [12:31]
Namworld mircea, I got my trades throught at 230-250 already [12:31]
Namworld I'm all good [12:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-] [12:32]
Namworld I took a screenshot of clarkmoody at the peak [12:32]
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Namworld http://i.imgur.com/1uwrLCA.png [12:32]
Namworld The price rise is almost vertical over a few weeks and totally dwarfs 2011's bubble [12:33]
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mircea_popescu lol nice screencap [12:34]
kakobrekla so in 2015 to excpect about 200 to 2000 bubble? [12:35]
Namworld I was looking at price and the 2011 looked like such a small bump... I thought, I've got to take some money there [12:35]
Namworld I withdrew funds available on the various exchanges, sent to gox and sold [12:35]
Namworld Soon after the crash occured. [12:36]
Namworld I was just in time. [12:36]
Namworld Too bad the free BTC was only a fraction of my portfolio [12:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29999998 BTC [+] [12:38]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P128T] 1 @ 0.06702997 BTC [12:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3059 @ 0.00071544 = 2.1885 BTC [+] [12:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4346 @ 0.00071567 = 3.1103 BTC [+] [12:47]
mircea_popescu well that's always the case neh ? [12:49]
Scrat [12:31] @MagicalTux: why exactly would a ddos affect the matching and execution engine? [12:49]
Scrat [12:31] <@MagicalTux> bit14: overloading system cpu [12:49]
Scrat [12:31] <@MagicalTux> ddos are not all about cpu [12:49]
Scrat [12:32] @MagicalTux: wouldn't the front end and execution engine be on different machines? [12:49]
Scrat [12:32] <@MagicalTux> bit14: not yet [12:49]
mircea_popescu heh. [12:49]
gesell ;;ticker [12:50]
dub neamwhile in switzerland https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vsXs3GUrw64#! [12:51]
Diablo-D3 ;;ticker [12:51]
Diablo-D3 or not [12:51]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [12:52]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 146.76500, Best ask: 148.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.23500, Last trade: 143.00000, 24 hour volume: 247104.13417462, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 175.50181 [12:52]
gesell Do you suppose what MagicalTux is talking about are all the massive 0.01 orders? [12:52]
gesell as i was saying yesterday, if each execution of an order requires gox to recaculate a bunch of things such as your current fee bracket, in addition to properly matching, then mangification at the cpu level is possible. and another argument for throttling oders per second per user until gox finds solutions [12:54]
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mircea_popescu in the paralel if relative distant universe where tux knows what he's talking about [12:54]
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mircea_popescu he could in principle be talking about that or anything else. [12:54]
taub gesell: that is their faulty engine design, and i predicted this like two weeks ago [12:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-] [12:55]
taub they dont know jack about anything, im tired of the ameteurish nature of all of this :( [12:55]
taub please jew bankers rescue us [12:55]
mircea_popescu lol taub [12:55]
gesell taub: dont worry, max keiser will save us [12:55]
mircea_popescu this is where i replug http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/ [12:56]
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gesell im sure he's going to say something big any time now ;) [12:56]
Scrat at least jew bankers know to isolate their website from their trading system [12:56]
taub exactly [12:56]
mircea_popescu well... mpex is the only one doing that, and i ain't jewish [12:57]
mircea_popescu also i explained what it is and why it should be done, but tards like tux think tjhey know shit [12:57]
mircea_popescu ie, better than me. [12:57]
gesell mircea_popescu: thanks for the post. finally someone giving numbers [12:57]
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gesell yeah, gox should switch to the PGP protocol for all orders :) [12:58]
ezdiy actually there are sound proposal for true p2p exchanges [12:58]
ezdiy problem is getting fiat in and out [12:58]
taub yep [12:59]
ezdiy you basically need some kind of "jew bankers", and assuming the escrow fraud to manipulate the market [12:59]
ezdiy its 20% tax on fiat in/out [12:59]
ezdiy but might be worth to some people [12:59]
taub maybe ripple can help in this? getting money into the exchanges [12:59]
mircea_popescu gesell no, just to separate trading engine. [12:59]
punkman why 20%? [12:59]
mircea_popescu there's things they can do and things they can't do [12:59]
ezdiy punkman: ripple. [12:59]
ezdiy simply, people being anonymous means that 20% of them will turn out to be scumbags [13:00]
ezdiy and you have to subsidize that [13:00]
mircea_popescu lol where you got your number from ? [13:00]
ezdiy mircea_popescu: chargeback rates [13:00]
ezdiy on creditcards [13:00]
mircea_popescu where exactly are chargeback rates 20% ? [13:01]
ezdiy everywhere [13:01]
ezdiy thanks to carders [13:01]
punkman you can't have 20% chargeback rate, they shut you down [13:01]
mircea_popescu ... [13:01]
ezdiy you oughta know [13:01]
ezdiy youre romanian :) [13:01]
mircea_popescu very smart. [13:01]
ezdiy mircea_popescu: well, assuming there is ripple for pp/cc [13:01]
ezdiy we shall assume same chargeback rates [13:02]
ezdiy ie immense amount of abuse from hacked accounts [13:02]
pizzaman1337 you don't have to get fiat in between p2p exchanges - you could settle in btc [13:02]
ezdiy pizzaman1337: we're talking btc/fiat exchanges [13:02]
mircea_popescu there is no system in this world with 20% chargeback rates. either you have a working system and chargebacks are a fraction of a percent [13:02]
pizzaman1337 yeah [13:02]
ezdiy of course btc/ltc/whatever exchanges can be pure p2p [13:02]
mircea_popescu or you're fucked, in which they're closer to 100% [13:02]
ezdiy mircea_popescu: in average, its supposedly about 20% (cant find the source atm, but i assume you'll get similiar number if you google hard) [13:04]
mircea_popescu don't assume. [13:04]
punkman you know what's a fun read, those 500 page Visa PDFs explaining all you ever wanted to know about credit cards [13:11]
mircea_popescu lol [13:11]
punkman wait, I mean no fun at all [13:11]
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mircea_popescu "all you never cared to know about idiotic topic #345789348975 and therefore you didn't ever ask" [13:11]
mircea_popescu should be a book line. [13:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.29999998 = 0.6 BTC [+] [13:12]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1226 BTC [+] [13:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 60 @ 0.1226 = 7.356 BTC [+] [13:13]
punkman did I say 500 pages? I meant 1250, http://usa.visa.com/download/merchants/visa-international-operating-regulations-main.pdf [13:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.1227 = 1.227 BTC [+] [13:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 27 @ 0.1229 = 3.3183 BTC [+] [13:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 26 @ 0.124 = 3.224 BTC [+] [13:13]
punkman http://usa.visa.com/download/merchants/visa_risk_management_guide_ecommerce.pdf [13:13]
ezdiy hehe [13:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 13 @ 0.12966 = 1.6856 BTC [+] [13:14]
ezdiy and then you have guys like ccbill [13:14]
Scrat which is mostly bullshit [13:14]
punkman perhaps you mean 20% attempted frauds [13:14]
punkman which they don't let through [13:14]
Scrat I had to do the PCI compliance thing once, had to tick gems such as "- you regularly run antivirus scans on your servers" [13:15]
ezdiy punkman: we're talking ultimate costs [13:15]
ezdiy punkman: sure the chargeback dont get through, the fraud rate is like 0.1-3% tops [13:15]
ezdiy but actual costs are *much* higher [13:15]
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ezdiy Scrat: lol :) [13:16]
punkman yes the merchant gets a fine for each chargeback [13:16]
MJR_ hi there [13:16]
Namworld the merchant shouldn't get the fine... [13:16]
mircea_popescu yes thery should. [13:16]
mircea_popescu if i ran visa everyone to ever lose a card would be fined $500 [13:17]
ezdiy they're to motivate to filter out fraudulent customers [13:17]
Namworld the merchant should get a huge fine IF it is found they frauded someone. [13:17]
Namworld Oh, from Visa's point of view, sure, they should [13:17]
ezdiy ie you'll not survive the outrageous fees (supposedly up to $250) if you cant filter abuse [13:17]
mircea_popescu "Police in New Jersey are on the hunt for the criminal behind the theft of $100,000 of hamburger patties" [13:17]
Namworld It's the easiest way to tax merchants on handling complaints. [13:17]
mircea_popescu this to go with the nutella earlier [13:17]
Namworld damn... nutella/burger patties sandwiches? [13:18]
Namworld Someone planning a neat diet [13:18]
punkman or maybe the merchant should fine Visa for letting their cards get stolen [13:18]
MJR_ hi mircea_popescu [13:18]
makomk malaimo maradona markedathome metabyte mETa midnightmagic MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MJR_ mjr___ mod6 mpexbot [13:19]
mircea_popescu hi MJR_ [13:19]
MJR_ nice article [13:19]
ezdiy punkman: thats what 3d-secure is for [13:19]
ezdiy never pay with 3d secure :) [13:19]
ezdiy (its the small print that fraudulent costs are passed on you, since uh, its 3d and secure, thus cant be stolen) [13:20]
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MJR_ ;;seen smickles [13:21]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 18 hours, 38 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm [13:21]
MJR_ where has smickles been? [13:21]
MJR_ smickles: hi [13:21]
error4733 !ticker m s.dice [13:21]
gesell ;;ticker [13:21]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00300501 / 0.003289 (23267 shares, 69.92 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00285732 / 0.00333333 (218637 shares, 624.72 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00350541 / 0.00599987 (1764568 shares, 6,185.54 BTC) [13:21]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.50125, Best ask: 141.57000, Bid-ask spread: 1.06875, Last trade: 141.57000, 24 hour volume: 247211.87558680, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 174.53931 [13:21]
mircea_popescu MJR_ iirc he has a child due [13:21]
MJR_ ah, congrats to him, i hope [13:21]
error4733 Hahaha : 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000 Welcome in BTCLAND [13:21]
mircea_popescu i hope that smarted. [13:22]
mircea_popescu i like that word, it clearly shows what's needed for making people smarter. [13:22]
MJR_ To give you an idea of how impressive things were here are some numbers that we would love to share with you guys: - The number of trades executed tripled in the last 24hrs. - The number of new account opened went from 60k for March alone to 75k new account created for the first few days of April! We now have roughly 20,000 new accounts created each day. [13:22]
MJR_ nice spin? [13:22]
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MJR_ yes, gox, you were very "impressive" yesterday [13:23]
error4733 Mt gox ? [13:23]
MJR_ yes [13:23]
MJR_ this is their "PR" from yesterday [13:23]
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MJR_ again, victim of our own success [13:23]
MJR_ cuz obvs they are teh best...l33t [13:23]
error4733 cmon :D stop kidding me before my coffee [13:23]
MJR_ not shitting you [13:23]
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error4733 75K for april ? :D [13:23]
MJR_ https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130411.html [13:23]
MJR_ there is article [13:23]
MJR_ fucking hilarious [13:24]
ezdiy i think mtgox pr money is well spent [13:24]
ezdiy kudoz to their copywriter [13:24]
error4733 almost the same in 2012 ? [13:24]
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MJR_ the egos on these guys... [13:24]
MJR_ we were directly responsible for a panic that resulted in a drop of over 50%...we are just that good [13:24]
ZedsterX MtGox.com ?@MtGox 49m [13:24]
ZedsterX Maintenance Over however we are now under a DDoS attack. [13:24]
ZedsterX sorry if thats a repost [13:25]
MJR_ (they actually claim that they caused the panic sale due to how much volume increased) [13:25]
error4733 yep MJT i can't open the link [13:25]
MJR_ LOL, keep reloading it eventually will get there [13:25]
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ezdiy ZedsterX: translation: maintainance takes much longer than expected, but lets play we're the victim here. [13:25]
ZedsterX lol [13:26]
MJR_ http://pastebin.com/H4wLsYTi i pastebined it for you guys [13:26]
MJR_ mircea_popescu: it is hilarious [13:26]
ezdiy for two hours in the next 12 to 24hrs [13:26]
ezdiy see that right there [13:26]
ezdiy that pr guy could be a politician [13:27]
ezdiy or a lawyer [13:27]
MJR_ hahaha [13:27]
error4733 thanks MJR [13:27]
MJR_ yes, most of you now think of getting screwed as getting "goxxed" but i can make this look good [13:27]
mircea_popescu idjits [13:27]
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mircea_popescu MJR_ thanks. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/its-been-an-epic-few-days-what-happened/#comment-92701 [13:29]
mircea_popescu i've added it for the ages. [13:29]
ZedsterX it is kinda funny that on gox's twitter they say don't panic network maintance then 8 minutes later we are under ddos [13:29]
mircea_popescu ZedsterX it's not lieing if you say stuff that's not true [13:30]
mircea_popescu it's just pr. right ? [13:30]
ZedsterX bad pr is good pr [13:30]
ZedsterX ask bFL :) [13:30]
ZedsterX they must happy with the spot moved a bit [13:31]
ZedsterX light* [13:31]
ezdiy mircea_popescu: i think the phrase is "wording" [13:31]
ezdiy gox is just wording us [13:31]
ZedsterX word [13:32]
ZedsterX hehe [13:32]
mircea_popescu lol [13:33]
ezdiy maybe bitcoin will transition from cult of getrichquick to cult of personality [13:33]
ezdiy kinda like max kaiser being the jesus preaching light of tomorrow, and mircea_popescu the evil guy [13:33]
mircea_popescu o gawd. [13:33]
mircea_popescu do you know how many jesuses we've had to date ? [13:33]
ZedsterX MP isn't god? [13:34]
ZedsterX now i'm really confused [13:34]
mircea_popescu i used to be but i was just not very good at it. [13:34]
ezdiy ZedsterX: bad guy [13:35]
ezdiy preaching bad things for bitcoin [13:35]
ezdiy but a lot of followers apparently [13:35]
ezdiy max kaiser the polar opossite [13:35]
ZedsterX well couldn't have done any worse the current person on that throne [13:36]
mircea_popescu yeah, keiser is the polar opposite, inasmuch as clues go. [13:36]
ezdiy the resemblance of bitcoin to religious cults is certainly here [13:36]
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bitesak ;;ticker [13:40]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [13:41]
ezdiy gribble, dont beat the dead horse [13:41]
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KRS1 mornin gribble [13:48]
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deadweasel price what, around 140? [13:52]
deadweasel morning all ;) [13:52]
mircea_popescu deadweasel http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/ [13:52]
mircea_popescu my friendly evil psa service. [13:53]
deadweasel ah thx [13:53]
error4733 118$ [13:54]
error4733 118€*... my bad, yes it's 140 [13:55]
KRS1 lol great article [13:55]
KRS1 i bet many a rectum are sore this morning [13:56]
mircea_popescu good. [13:56]
mircea_popescu that's the true sign of a good fucking. [13:57]
KRS1 the kind that stinks afterwards [13:57]
deadweasel great post. have your readers increased in the last few months? any data on that? [13:57]
kakobrekla 12:58.00 ( coinmaster ) [Stamp] BTC 75.000 USD (-63.990 USD) [13:58]
kakobrekla now [13:58]
mircea_popescu deadweasel i don't really keep very close track [13:58]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla buy! [13:58]
kakobrekla too late this time [13:59]
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ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [14:04]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [14:05]
kakobrekla fud ? http://pastebin.com/j9VZxYA9 [14:06]
KRS1 uhh.. [14:08]
Scrat looking at the emails, probably [14:09]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ohohohoh [14:09]
gesell total fud [14:09]
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kakobrekla like 140 aint cheap enough [14:10]
gesell anyone done whale watching on the orderbooks recently? [14:12]
ThickAsThieves i can tell ya change password is broken in gox right now [14:13]
error4733 emails list from 2011 hack !? #itspossiblyascam [14:13]
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taub i think its kinda funny how butthurt lew rockwell is about bitcoin [14:15]
taub or that he doesnt take it seriously [14:16]
taub well time will come :( [14:16]
mircea_popescu if anyone want to contribute to the 1btc fund 1KSHjG4etUA1gBdpKRecoRbmxv4N2TLyFM [14:17]
mircea_popescu ima send them the brain wallet and publish the results. [14:17]
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mircea_popescu um wtf [14:19]
mircea_popescu is brainwallet broken ?! [14:19]
ThickAsThieves that addy doesnt work [14:19]
KRS1 mircea popescu did call it spot on..for a while now. sure goes along with what i've mostly noticed in life: too much of a good thing is usually not a "good thing". [14:19]
mircea_popescu wtf, [14:20]
error4733 can u double check the address ? [14:20]
mircea_popescu i just generated it in brain wallet. [14:20]
mircea_popescu is the site broken ? [14:20]
gesell mtgox might just be ddos'ing themselves so that all that new fiat coming into the exchange via wire for new users that wont want to spend it on btc anymore can be put in a low interest bank account by gox to make them rich [14:20]
mircea_popescu http://brainwallet.org/ [14:20]
gesell ;) [14:20]
error4733 brainwallet doesnt work with Porn relative password MP [14:21]
mircea_popescu ok i can't get a usable address with brainwallet.org. all the addies it outputs are broken [14:21]
mircea_popescu anyone know an alternative ? [14:21]
ThickAsThieves https://www.bitaddress.org/bitaddress.org-v2.4-SHA1-1d5951f6a04dd5a287ac925da4e626870ee58d60.html [14:22]
ThickAsThieves or, just the domain [14:22]
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ThickAsThieves hmm did i just give some indentifer up? [14:23]
error4733 no [14:23]
ThickAsThieves what is this? 1d5951f6a04dd5a287ac925da4e626870ee58d60 [14:24]
error4733 its the SH1 [14:24]
mircea_popescu 13M1JEPDnSGLKMXXzGDSSQUuzqQwvsrVYS [14:24]
mircea_popescu fuck this doesn't workl either [14:24]
error4733 when you DL the wep page to make paper wallet offline [14:24]
ThickAsThieves probly just uses brainwallet.org [14:24]
mircea_popescu 12bASRScqN1StAzbWxqSUtqKWKZK9nfHgY [14:24]
mircea_popescu not a single address i generate works. what the fuck is this ?! [14:24]
mircea_popescu did someone change the algo ? [14:24]
ThickAsThieves maybe thats the anonymous joke [14:24]
error4733 you need to make the sum, to see if its the right [14:24]
error4733 hahaha [14:24]
ThickAsThieves they hacked brain wallet [14:24]
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mircea_popescu for fucks sake ?! [14:25]
error4733 work for me [14:26]
error4733 1HiZZ1YbP6tBgEXvo1RMs3jWfbBswq7Yeg [14:26]
mircea_popescu i wonder if my js is broken [14:27]
ThickAsThieves plz confirm working address we arepooling in [14:27]
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mircea_popescu error4733 pm me the sikrit for that one [14:27]
mircea_popescu ill email it [14:27]
pgp morning - more volatility overnight i see... [14:28]
error4733 mine was un test !! dont send any money [14:28]
pgp mp: nice PSA [14:28]
mircea_popescu error4733 but srsly make me one. [14:28]
mircea_popescu pgp i like you spell volatility right. it's so rare [14:28]
pgp if only people would listen [14:28]
pgp lol [14:29]
mircea_popescu the beauty of bitcoin : nobody has to listen. [14:29]
mircea_popescu as long as they can afford to pay all fines bitcoin may throw at them for it. [14:29]
KRS1 lol [14:30]
mircea_popescu 1Pbfdh8ECrhEtVx3m1oeFAfUFG7NoQUKqr << address. [14:30]
mircea_popescu i sent a btc. [14:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 681 @ 0.00070306 = 0.4788 BTC [-] [14:32]
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MJR_ yep [14:32]
MJR_ that is how i see it [14:32]
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MJR_ there is nothing anyone "should" do, they do whatever they want...the market sorts it out, but there are smarter and dumber things to do [14:33]
MJR_ if you look at it from the "i kan haz monies" perspective [14:33]
error4733 NO WAIT [14:34]
error4733 http://pastebin.com/Kd093NQi [14:35]
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ThickAsThieves heheh i'm confused, is money still needed for anonymous wallet? [14:36]
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pigeons i guess not for an empty wallet [14:37]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves never was needed. just, if anyone wanted to add [14:37]
mircea_popescu i already sent a btc. [14:37]
ThickAsThieves ah [14:37]
ThickAsThieves looks like its already out [14:37]
mircea_popescu what is ? [14:38]
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ThickAsThieves that pastebin isnt? [14:39]
mircea_popescu i have no idea. [14:39]
ThickAsThieves none of those passes work [14:40]
ThickAsThieves or do they need to be decrypted? [14:40]
gesell how to whale watch the asks on the orderbook: [14:40]
gesell curl -s https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/depth/full | python -c 'import sys,json;data=json.loads(sys.stdin.read()); print data["data"]["bids"]' | awk -v RS='{' '{print}' | tr -d '[]{}' | egrep "price_int': u'[1-9][0-9][0-9]{6}'," | egrep "amount': [1-9][0-9]{3}." | awk '{print $2 $5 $6 $9 $10}' | sed "s/u'/ /g" | sed "s/[',]//g" | sort -n | cut -b 2-11 -b 18- && date +%s [14:41]
pgp anybody know how the ticker on #bitcoin-market works? seems like the most reliable ticker out there, no? [14:43]
sturles Right.. You know it would be simpler to just use python for all of this? Or awk? At least give both sed commands to the first instance, instead of forking twice just for that! [14:44]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+] [14:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+] [14:46]
mircea_popescu those are actually good points. [14:46]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+] [14:48]
Scrat pgp: it pulls data from bitcoincharts [14:48]
gesell sturles: feel free to change it. i just got lazy and actually executing python from the command line was total hell to figure out. (cant really do a "if-else" on it) [14:49]
Scrat the joy of significant whitespace languages [14:50]
pgp so bitcoincharts api was unaffected yesterday? really? [14:50]
pgp seems like many others realy in bitcoincharts were hosed yesterday... [14:51]
Scrat well why not, it's static data and you can cache it effectively [14:51]
bitesak ;;ticker [14:51]
Scrat it went down a few times [14:51]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 162.13873, Best ask: 163.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.86127, Last trade: 162.13873, 24 hour volume: 247191.76866132, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 172.81754 [14:51]
gesell Scrat:could always revert to perl but then i'd probably start puking involuntarily [14:52]
pgp anyone know of a historical repository for this data that doesn't require me to grab individual exchange json's from bitcoincharts for tiny intervals that won't return most of the time anyway? [14:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+] [14:53]
mircea_popescu pgp it was down for half the day [14:54]
pgp right, that's what I thought, but #bitcoin-market seemed to be chugging along... [14:54]
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pgp eskimobob - orderbook is only avail through api... go to clarkmoody.com to see it [15:01]
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TradeFortress coinbr withdraws comes directly from mpex? [15:04]
TradeFortress EskimoBob, you can also trade $0.001 USD via API but not via site :P [15:05]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1019 BTC [-] [15:09]
ThickAsThieves ;;market --sell 3000 [15:10]
gribble A market order to sell 3000 bitcoins right now would net 437428.6661 USD and would take the last price down to 140.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 145.8096 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 74.3326 seconds [15:10]
ThickAsThieves ;;market --buy 3000 [15:11]
gribble A market order to buy 3000 bitcoins right now would take 508573.6610 USD and would take the last price up to 174.9900 USD, resulting in an average price of 169.5246 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 108.0862 seconds [15:11]
unbalanced MP, other assembled Brainiacs... Is the only alternative to Mt. Gox to switching to other traditional (centralized) exchanges, one of which will swell to 80% eventually? Or is decentralized exchange somehow possible? [15:14]
mircea_popescu unbalanced localbitcoins for instance. [15:14]
pizzaman1337 yeah, what's the volume on localbitcoins anyway? [15:14]
unbalanced Yeah, OTC, localbitcoins... [15:14]
mircea_popescu also otc is a good choice. [15:14]
mircea_popescu i don't honestly think we need much more or anything other than this. [15:14]
mircea_popescu person to person bitcoin. [15:15]
unbalanced ...says the guy who expects users to grok commandline gpg [15:15]
unbalanced That's fine for a subset of users. [15:15]
mircea_popescu i don't expect users to grok commandline gpg. [15:15]
mircea_popescu i expect people who don't to have somebody who does do their investi9ng for them. [15:15]
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mircea_popescu something along the lines of, "if you're too drunk to stand no way you're driving" [15:16]
mircea_popescu even if driving is kinda cool and everything. [15:16]
unbalanced agreed [15:16]
mircea_popescu and even if you drive seated not standing [15:16]
mircea_popescu and even if everything else. [15:16]
unbalanced Putting bitcoin stocks/bonds/options aside for a sec, if I just think of buying and selling bitcoins P2P... How do we put a web interface on distributed trust? [15:17]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php [15:17]
mircea_popescu like that ? [15:17]
TradeFortress lol [15:17]
unbalanced That is an excellent start... but only a start. I guess that's the logical one to build on though. [15:19]
unbalanced e.g. have the bids and the asks up like a "normal" exchange but when you transact, you're not trading on an exchange, you're dealing direct with the counterparty after vetting their WOT rating, etc. [15:20]
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TradeFortress unbalanced, wont work because some payment methods have higher premiums [15:21]
TradeFortress could do one for each payment method through [15:21]
unbalanced (and the dudes selling code or the gambling links are tucked aside into other tabs) [15:21]
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unbalanced Who runs bitcoin-otc? [15:22]
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TradeFortress nanotube [15:22]
unbalanced I see the orderbook is JSON, that's good [15:23]
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unbalanced What do you guys think of Ripple? Does it accomplish this? [15:26]
gesell HOLY SHIT [15:26]
gesell wtf is this order on the ask book: u'stamp': u'1360289097384960', u'amount_int': u'100000000', u'price': 13370133701337, u'price_int': u'1337013370133700096', u'amount': 1 [15:26]
Scrat its a leet order [15:27]
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gesell this is some strange shit. orderboook flipping out sometimes [15:28]
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gesell i guess its normal actually [15:29]
gesell a user could say they want to sell for 133713371337.00 USD [15:29]
unbalanced Gox would probably fill it under conditions like yesterday [15:30]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.29999998 = 0.6 BTC [+] [15:31]
jurov iirc bitcoin.de works that way [15:31]
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deadweasel unbalanced: go build a tabbed version. tabs for payment method, tabs for gambling, dev for hire, etc... [15:34]
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pizzaman1337 15.6k bets unaccounted for with S.DICE? uh oh... [15:36]
mjr_ huh? [15:36]
pizzaman1337 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1799509#msg1799509 [15:36]
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TradeFortress Yeah. [15:39]
unbalanced Are they being DDOS'd? [15:39]
pizzaman1337 I don't think that's possible, the severs that handle the transactions aren't public-facing, right? [15:40]
Diablo-D3 lol [15:41]
Diablo-D3 sdice probably ran out of money [15:41]
Diablo-D3 time to sell your stock [15:41]
unbalanced "Fire! Run for the exits..." [15:41]
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mircea_popescu looking at that list pizzaman1337 it seems they mostly have profits ? [15:44]
mircea_popescu i see 10k, 13k 16k etc [15:45]
mjr_ yep [15:45]
pizzaman1337 yeah, it seems pretty clear that the problem is not that they ran out of money [15:45]
mjr_ time to sell everyone, who cares the price [15:45]
mjr_ sell sell sell [15:45]
mircea_popescu 1dice97EC 17041.91 1dice8EMZ 18319.23 etc [15:45]
mjr_ shhh, no facts right now...i want to pick up sdice at .001 ;) [15:46]
mircea_popescu or are those cumulative all time ? [15:46]
Bugpowder mircea_popescu: So are you going to tweak the mpoebot so it doesn't sell calls for over 1BTC? [15:48]
mircea_popescu prolly just take out those lines next month. [15:48]
mircea_popescu if it wants to charge over 1 btc per who am i to argue. [15:48]
ThickAsThieves $avg [15:49]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 170.11 [15:49]
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Bugpowder maybe I will undercut the bot and sell for 1.05 [15:49]
mircea_popescu sounds like a plan. [15:49]
mjr_ hahaha [15:50]
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deadweasel i must say, it was very nice to have the passthroughs operating normally yesterday. [15:54]
deadweasel i don't know how they did.... jurov, where did you get your vwap yesterday? [15:54]
ThickAsThieves mpex i assume [15:55]
deadweasel i thought bought was not serving an $avg [15:56]
deadweasel at least after noon EST [15:56]
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bitesak it was sometimes [15:57]
bitesak but you had to get in relatively early [15:57]
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kakobrekla http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c4lqr/iama_algorithmic_and_high_frequency_trading/ [15:58]
kakobrekla could be bull [15:59]
kakobrekla bull as in bullshit not bull [15:59]
Bugpowder To my best knowledge, every firm with an algorithmic/HFT division has presence in multiple Bitcoin exchanges. [15:59]
Bugpowder that part is buttshit [15:59]
Bugpowder every firm with HFT doesn't give a shit about bitcoin [15:59]
kakobrekla i havent even read it through [16:00]
Bugpowder I read enough [16:00]
kakobrekla :> [16:00]
jurov deadweasel, coinbr caches its wvap for some period if bitcoincharts returns an error [16:00]
Bugpowder probably interned somewhere [16:00]
Bugpowder wants to stir some shit [16:00]
deadweasel i see. well, cheers to caching! [16:00]
kakobrekla well the part that bother me most is 1h lag and hft [16:01]
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kakobrekla more like sft [16:01]
deadweasel ^ yeah, i don't see how anything in btc could be considered HFT... [16:01]
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gesell current version of whale_watchers script: [16:02]
deadweasel the infrastructure to do so successfully doesn't seem to exist yet... [16:02]
gesell $ whale_watchers.sh bids [16:02]
gesell goxlag 4.207002 seconds [16:02]
gesell 1365641026 price:110.20001 amount:1179.6732 [16:02]
gesell 1365679001 price:132.77758 amount:2011.6502 [16:02]
gesell 1365684834 price:130 amount:1172.13926341 [16:02]
gesell 1365684902 price:120 amount:1866.58691101 [16:02]
gesell 1365684937 price:100 amount:1129.38763907 [16:02]
gesell 1365685100 price:110 amount:1595.50795395 [16:02]
gesell 1365685337 edge:144.4/146.5 [16:02]
gesell oh damnit sorry [16:02]
gesell forgot we dont have
in these parts 		[16:02]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7541 = 1.5082 BTC [-] [16:03]
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mircea_popescu every firm with HFT doesn't give a shit about bitcoin <<< ya well, kids and clues seldom meet. [16:05]
mircea_popescu According to a Businessweek source, Foursquare netted just $2 million in revenue in 2012 [16:07]
mircea_popescu lmao. [16:07]
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mircea_popescu satoshi dice made what, 70k btc. [16:07]
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pizzaman1337 was that it? gosh [16:09]
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lippoper ;;ticker [16:09]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.81830, Best ask: 146.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.18170, Last trade: 146.00000, 24 hour volume: 247441.18891750, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 259.98000, 24 hour vwap: 169.88239 [16:09]
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lippoper ;;seen krs1 [16:10]
gribble krs1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 39 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: lol [16:10]
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unbalanced jurov: ah, bitcoin.de is exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of, thanks! [16:10]
lippoper ;;seen krs-1 [16:11]
gribble krs-1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 3 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: this would be a scotch day [16:11]
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unbalanced I saw that a year or so ago and forgot. [16:11]
unbalanced Well, it's close. Still acts as a trustee... hrm. [16:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29999998 BTC [+] [16:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+] [16:15]
joecool !GOXLAG [16:15]
lippoper ;;goxlag [16:16]
gribble MtGox lag is 49.296595 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0987898244278 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU). [16:16]
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unbalanced jurov: the bitcoinforums.com SMF Trader System stuff, feedback, etc... is P2P exchange the idea of that too? [16:18]
unbalanced er, bitcoinforum.com [16:18]
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unbalanced You may want to snag the plural of that domain and redirect it to the singular. Assuming it's your site... I can't keep track of all you guys. [16:19]
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joecool hm [16:20]
joecool !ping [16:20]
joecool ;;ping [16:20]
gribble pong [16:21]
joecool k [16:21]
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jurov unbalanced idk, ask them directly [16:23]
jurov cya later [16:23]
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ThickAsThieves does $avg show the confident vwap that mpex options works from? [16:24]
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lippoper $avg [16:25]
mpexbot lippoper: 167.53 [16:25]
taub just hit 111 on btce [16:25]
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lippoper ;;ticker [16:25]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.00000, Best ask: 126.90000, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 129.00000, 24 hour volume: 257385.98098882, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 259.00000, 24 hour vwap: 167.96454 [16:25]
ThickAsThieves mircea_popescu does $avg show the confident vwap that mpex options works from? [16:26]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,24hprc [16:26]
gribble 167.53 [16:26]
mircea_popescu $avg [16:26]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: 167.53 [16:26]
mircea_popescu seems so yes [16:26]
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lippoper it's at 130 on gox [16:27]
lippoper err 120 [16:27]
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KRS-1 ;;goxlag [16:28]
gribble MtGox lag is 142.335422 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.285238592021 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU). [16:28]
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KRS-1 the f- [16:30]
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assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+] [16:32]
ThickAsThieves 100 on btc, 140 on bitfloor [16:33]
error4733 on the way to 65$ [16:34]
error4733 end of march price [16:34]
error4733 just a nice april fool for 10 days [16:34]
ThickAsThieves i'm skeptical [16:35]
error4733 ;;goxlax didnt help [16:36]
gribble Error: "goxlax" is not a valid command. [16:36]
error4733 ;;goxlag [16:36]
gribble MtGox lag is 268.171906 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.537413497022 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU). [16:36]
wao ;;goxlag [16:36]
gribble MtGox lag is 282.241931 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.565609669586 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU). [16:36]
mircea_popescu 65 may be a little understated [16:37]
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ThickAsThieves you mean you think itll go lower? [16:38]
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Bugpowder WAT? [16:38]
Bugpowder is that bad print on the volume? [16:38]
Bugpowder or real [16:38]
Bugpowder 57,000 BTC sell? [16:38]
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KRS-1 oh jeez [16:39]
error4733 where :'( [16:40]
taub mtgox [16:40]
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taub I dont know why it didnt take down price further [16:40]
Bugpowder look at the 1 minute [16:40]
Bugpowder slow 20k dump [16:40]
Bugpowder then a 20k buy [16:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.29999998 = 1.2 BTC [+] [16:41]
KRS-1 wow [16:41]
Bugpowder nobody actually saw these trades? [16:41]
KRS-1 did it bottom yet [16:41]
taub how can i see these [16:41]
Scrat wall 120 done [16:41]
taub when websocket is down [16:41]
taub :| [16:41]
taub all this incompetence leaves so much room for conspiracies lol [16:41]
taub +theories [16:41]
gesell whales are gone almost [16:42]
gesell no support [16:42]
taub what feed do you watch Bugpowder [16:42]
taub clarkmoody working smoothly for you? [16:42]
gesell Bugpowder: where did you see this? [16:43]
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error4733 http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/widget/chart/ [16:44]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P122T] 1000 @ 0.07047095 = 70.471 BTC [16:44]
taub @MagicalTux> [22:43:25] pu everything into ram and everything will be ok <- new db serv has 128GB ram [16:44]
taub overkill [16:44]
KRS-1 wheres the bottom [16:44]
taub write shit software, buy more hardware [16:44]
taub but at least they are doing SOMETHING [16:45]
TomServo yup [16:45]
TomServo @MagicalTux | Ad0: sweating right now [16:45]
Scrat entire db fits in 1 GB [16:45]
Scrat buy 128 GB, that oughta solve it [16:45]
Scrat derp derp herp [16:45]
taub very nice error4733 [16:45]
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Bugpowder its on clark moody [16:46]
Bugpowder no feeds are working well for me again [16:46]
leotreasure #bitcoin-RT [16:47]
Bugpowder Got filled at 121 [16:47]
Bugpowder (buy) [16:47]
ThickAsThieves me too [16:47]
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Bugpowder hedging with puts [16:47]
ThickAsThieves next floor is at 110 [16:47]
ThickAsThieves then 101 [16:47]
damientrog what puts are you buying? [16:48]
ThickAsThieves could be a very volatile day [16:48]
ThickAsThieves $avg [16:48]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 165.16 [16:48]
Bugpowder cheap ones [16:48]
taub 112, 10% spread [16:50]
taub state [16:50]
KRS-1 what effect does this have on btc-e when i try to buy btc there..seems like price is behind about 10 mins..but lower in price than the charts report [16:50]
gesell two 2k whales holding at 110&100, two others at 140&180 [16:50]
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ThickAsThieves $avg [16:51]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 165.16 [16:51]
KRS-1 is it going up yet [16:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1275 @ 0.0029486 = 3.7595 BTC [+] [16:53]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P134T] 30 @ 0.25 = 7.5 BTC [+] [16:54]
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ThickAsThieves no [16:56]
ThickAsThieves 112 [16:56]
KRS-1 time to make some money girls [16:57]
ThickAsThieves wheres the bot? [16:57]
Scrat cant see that 110 floor lasting for long [16:57]
KRS-1 so like..i can buy at $108 on btc-e [16:57]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.13545, Best ask: 118.80000, Bid-ask spread: 4.66455, Last trade: 118.80000, 24 hour volume: 264889.76286140, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 258.50000, 24 hour vwap: 164.91260 [16:57]
KRS-1 scrat: meaning up or down from there? [16:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00322 = 0.322 BTC [-] [16:57]
Bugpowder home back bot [16:57]
Bugpowder come back [16:57]
Scrat KRS-1: south [16:58]
ThickAsThieves cmon bot [16:58]
mjr_ ;;goxlag [16:59]
gribble MtGox lag is 486.069431 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.974077697419 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU). [16:59]
Bugpowder bot always goes down when you need it [16:59]
ThickAsThieves yep [16:59]
ThickAsThieves 118 [16:59]
Scrat yeah that 128 GB sure helped, lol [16:59]
Bugpowder lucky I got some [16:59]
lippoper how low will it og? [16:59]
lippoper how low will it go? [16:59]
ThickAsThieves gox's claims are all bullshit [16:59]
Bugpowder probably the bottom [16:59]
Bugpowder :) [16:59]
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ThickAsThieves i really hope someone starts aggresively buying [17:00]
ThickAsThieves asks are so thin [17:00]
KRS-1 people are greedy..they just waiting. [17:01]
Bugpowder I am trying to get filled [17:01]
KRS-1 lets hope for $65 [17:01]
Bugpowder I got bids all the way down [17:01]
taub i dont think we're gonna get below 50 [17:02]
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taub but 100-70 seems likely [17:02]
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ThickAsThieves 111.50 [17:02]
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ThickAsThieves gox website hanging [17:03]
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taub 1:1 extention of the first downmove lands it at $29 [17:03]
taub oh boy [17:03]
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ThickAsThieves i dont know what that means [17:03]
wao ;;goxlag [17:04]
gribble MtGox lag is 506.639759 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.01530040441 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU). [17:04]
Guest54898 fear the reaper... [17:05]
ThickAsThieves bitocin charts is working [17:05]
ThickAsThieves bot is not [17:05]
ThickAsThieves soooooo? [17:05]
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lippoper ;;ticker [17:06]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.80000, Best ask: 122.98700, Bid-ask spread: 4.18700, Last trade: 122.98700, 24 hour volume: 267142.03759412, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 258.50000, 24 hour vwap: 164.36507 [17:06]
KRS-1 keeps going up eh [17:06]
deadweasel $avg [17:06]
mpexbot deadweasel: 165.16 [17:06]
taub are you expecting a rapid change? [17:07]
ThickAsThieves oh geez, check this out [17:07]
taub you keep doing that [17:07]
ThickAsThieves on gox [17:07]
ThickAsThieves "Market cooldown, order placing suspended until 2013-04-12 11:00:00 UTC" [17:07]
ThickAsThieves wtf is that shit [17:07]
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ThickAsThieves where were they yesterday [17:07]
ThickAsThieves lol [17:08]
KRS-1 more sells after that im sure [17:08]
mircea_popescu ahahaha whaT! [17:08]
ThickAsThieves i'm not joking [17:08]
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deadweasel WOW [17:09]
taub well [17:09]
taub at least [17:09]
deadweasel wow [17:09]
taub mtgox is killing itself [17:09]
taub better than any ddos [17:09]
pizzaman1337 self dos [17:09]
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Scrat ahahahahah [17:09]
mircea_popescu heh. [17:09]
ThickAsThieves what. the. fuck. [17:09]
taub you gox'd it [17:09]
gesell this is exxcellent [17:09]
Scrat shadenfreude [17:09]
gesell taub: lul [17:09]
Bugpowder what did i misssss? [17:09]
mircea_popescu so i am guessing next is the announcement of "mpoe-pr was right all along, we were running fractional reserve, [17:09]
gesell gox taking a break? [17:10]
mircea_popescu all your coins are lost, sorry, we're gone" [17:10]
ThickAsThieves [10:07] on gox [17:10]
ThickAsThieves [10:07] "Market cooldown, order placing suspended until 2013-04-12 11:00:00 UTC" [17:10]
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gesell oh you guys are just joking [17:10]
gesell damn [17:10]
Bugpowder what? [17:10]
ThickAsThieves not joking gesell [17:10]
ThickAsThieves want a screenshot? [17:10]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves put it on dtng [17:10]
Bugpowder fucking circuitbreakers [17:11]
taub wouldnt be surprised mp... they have been spewing some incompetent shit in their announcments [17:11]
Bugpowder FUCK [17:11]
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mircea_popescu Bugpowder not a circuit breaker. [17:11]
mircea_popescu they weren't "circuit breaking" yest's runup either. [17:11]
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Bugpowder there it is [17:12]
Bugpowder just tried to place on [17:12]
Bugpowder one [17:12]
Bugpowder market cooldown [17:12]
Bugpowder Market cooldown, order placing suspended until 2013-04-12 02:00:00 UTC [17:12]
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Bugpowder that is fucked [17:13]
mircea_popescu is it 2 utc or 11 utc ? [17:13]
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ThickAsThieves gox disappears and price goes up [17:19]
ThickAsThieves not bad [17:19]
taub it was rising on mtgox too before they shut down [17:19]
jcpham i trust weexchange.co but you'll have to make the market [17:19]
ThickAsThieves bot still down [17:19]
leotreasure ;;goxlag [17:19]
jcpham not even sure if public [17:19]
jcpham verification you upload the docs yourself [17:19]
gribble MtGox lag is 1.735291 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00347750373471 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU). [17:19]
taub how is it lagging without trades? [17:20]
lippoper heard they were taking it offline for server upgrades [17:20]
deadweasel weex was $400 to buy yesterday! [17:20]
deadweasel $140 to sell [17:20]
deadweasel :) [17:20]
leotreasure so is mtgox offline atm? [17:20]
ThickAsThieves trading is off [17:20]
taub they are bullshitting you, how is there lag [17:20]
mircea_popescu wb all [17:20]
taub lag counter is directly derived from orders... [17:21]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [17:21]
gribble MtGox lag is 1.222528 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00244993242389 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU). [17:21]
taub maybe people canceling orders [17:21]
mircea_popescu lol [17:21]
ThickAsThieves yeah [17:21]
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ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats [17:22]
gribble Current Blocks: 230820 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1019 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 54 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9084557.01163 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.39642 [17:22]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [17:22]
gribble 68695.4140799 [17:22]
ThickAsThieves mp, why no bot? [17:23]
mircea_popescu cuz no data ? [17:23]
ThickAsThieves thought it was from bitcoincharts [17:23]
ThickAsThieves its up [17:23]
mircea_popescu yeah. [17:23]
ThickAsThieves been up [17:23]
mircea_popescu well what can i tell you. bot has to get it. [17:23]
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Bugpowder all the bids are going to be vaporized when we come up [17:24]
Bugpowder This could be fun [17:24]
Bugpowder cancelled all buys down to 52 [17:24]
Bugpowder hopefully the 52 and below will get filled [17:25]
ThickAsThieves right, why would anyone leave current bids up [17:25]
mircea_popescu mtgox has no business being involved in bitcoin [17:25]
mircea_popescu this much is clear. [17:25]
Bugpowder well [17:25]
Bugpowder I'm leaving some up for the possible crash and rebound bounce [17:25]
ThickAsThieves so now is the outside market gonna use gox orderbook for reference? hehe, ... [17:26]
Bugpowder lol [17:26]
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gesell MagicalTux: "So, today I would like to inform everyone that DDoS that began earlier in the day was quickly mitigated by our new hardware upgrades. These included adding another Linux server with 128GB of memory! to our already existing Pentium Pro servers. However, despite these improvements once again our own suscess caused a massive sell off as tons of new users added to MTGox decided to crash the market by not buying any bitcoin" [17:27]
gesell "Due to this continued success we will be suspending the exchange for a few hours so that everyone has time to open a bottle of chapagne" [17:28]
ThickAsThieves lol [17:28]
TomServo brilliant. [17:28]
ThickAsThieves wheres that from? [17:28]
gesell me. [17:28]
gesell just tired of this [17:29]
ThickAsThieves goodun [17:29]
mircea_popescu what are you serious ? [17:29]
ThickAsThieves i guess this is good for the market [17:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+] [17:29]
ThickAsThieves maybe if they live without gox for a day [17:29]
ThickAsThieves we can reroute the bloodflow [17:29]
mircea_popescu this is a good point. [17:29]
taub However, despite these improvements once again our own suscess caused a massive sell off as tons of new users added to MTGox decided to crash the market by not buying any bitcoin" [17:29]
mircea_popescu hopefully they reopen and nobody goes back. [17:29]
taub did he really write that? [17:29]
taub what a nitwit [17:29]
taub i cant believe it [17:30]
mircea_popescu taub nah it's a spoof [17:30]
ThickAsThieves its jokes taub [17:30]
taub good grief [17:30]
taub thanks [17:30]
ThickAsThieves but still [17:30]
ThickAsThieves dont be surprised [17:30]
Scrat taub: u dun goofed [17:30]
mircea_popescu the funny part is where everybody readily mistakes it for the original. [17:30]
taub could've been him lol [17:30]
ThickAsThieves if their next statement mirrors that [17:30]
Namworld he did halt trading on MtGox tho [17:31]
taub yea [17:31]
Bugpowder is the order book updating to show cancellations? [17:32]
ThickAsThieves no [17:32]
ThickAsThieves sadly [17:32]
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ThickAsThieves at least not the one on clarkmoody [17:32]
deadweasel I've been pointing to the bitcon-otc order book to everyone freaking on bitcointalk.org.. [17:32]
deadweasel hopefully they see that they can still trade. [17:33]
mircea_popescu hopefully. [17:33]
mircea_popescu if mtgox never comes back it will be too soon. [17:33]
gesell sorry [17:33]
gesell He did not write that [17:33]
gesell I wrote it [17:33]
ThickAsThieves too believable! [17:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00069713 = 5.5073 BTC [-] [17:33]
gesell put it on redit (as a lie) [17:33]
gesell my possition is still all held in BTC, still. But I dont care, this has to change [17:34]
Bugpowder Guys its cool [17:35]
Bugpowder (2013/4/11) Market Cooldown: Orders will not be accepted for the moment as we need to upgrade our database to accommodate the trading volume. However, you may still cancel your pending and open orders. Trading will resume at 11.00 am JST. [17:35]
Bugpowder just a planned outage [17:35]
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Bugpowder order book is updating [17:35]
Bugpowder watch the bids melt [17:36]
Bugpowder ;;bids 0 [17:36]
ThickAsThieves where> [17:36]
Bugpowder bitcoinity [17:36]
gribble There are currently 92569212 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 7168972.79161 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0081 seconds [17:36]
gesell wow, people on reddit are pretty gulable [17:36]
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ThickAsThieves bitcoinity shows an orderbook? [17:37]
ThickAsThieves i'm missing out [17:37]
ThickAsThieves i thought it only shows last trades [17:37]
Namworld lol... orderbook melts... [17:37]
Namworld huge crash impending.... [17:37]
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Bugpowder oh boy oh boy [17:37]
Namworld so much for trying to stop the crash... [17:37]
Bugpowder i'm gonna get filled [17:38]
Bugpowder at 51 [17:38]
Bugpowder I can feel it [17:38]
ThickAsThieves how do i see orderbook on bitcoinity? [17:38]
Namworld yeah. Neat getting filled [17:38]
Bugpowder hmm [17:39]
Bugpowder should have kept the 72 [17:39]
lippoper ;;asks 72 [17:39]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 72.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.1812 seconds [17:39]
Bugpowder Dip might be very fast [17:39]
lippoper aren't you being optimistic? [17:39]
Bugpowder price is holding up on other ex [17:39]
KRS-1 think this will be permanent or is this our new reality never to see > $100 again [17:39]
ThickAsThieves ;;eightball will we see 100 again [17:40]
gribble It is so. [17:40]
ThickAsThieves there ya go [17:40]
lippoper ;;eightball will we see 200 again? [17:40]
gribble No chance. [17:40]
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KRS-1 lol [17:40]
ThickAsThieves lol [17:40]
Scrat gribble :( [17:40]
soypirate so much for gribble's magic eightball [17:40]
lippoper lol [17:41]
KRS-1 f'n eightball [17:41]
lippoper ;;eightball will the market stabilize around $150? [17:41]
gribble Come again? [17:41]
ThickAsThieves face or chest? [17:41]
lippoper Come again? [17:41]
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error4733 ;;eightball Pirate40 refund every1 [17:42]
gribble NO! [17:42]
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ThickAsThieves ;;eightball Will options bot resume before Gox does? [17:42]
gribble NO. [17:42]
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pizzaman1337 aw [17:42]
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lippoper hahaha [17:42]
ThickAsThieves knew it [17:42]
Namworld ;;eightball Will we see 1 cent per BTC this month? [17:43]
gribble Maybe... [17:43]
KRS-1 ;;eightball does Lippoper have any chance of getting laid? [17:43]
gribble You're kidding, right? [17:43]
Namworld ;;eightball Will we see 1 USD per BTC this month then? [17:43]
gribble It is possible. [17:43]
ThickAsThieves ;;eightball will my C200s have any value this month? [17:43]
gribble No chance. [17:43]
Namworld ;;eightball Does the bubble pops? [17:43]
gribble One would be wise to think so. [17:43]
ThickAsThieves hehe [17:43]
Namworld I love eightball [17:44]
lippoper ;;eightball and anyone, should I buy in at $100/btc ? [17:44]
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ThickAsThieves ;;eightball is mircea and mpoe-pr the same person [17:44]
gribble I doubt it very much. [17:44]
Namworld eightball is very accurate overall [17:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;eighbtall are you sure? [17:44]
gribble Error: "eighbtall" is not a valid command. [17:44]
lippoper ;;eightball Should I buy in at $100/btc ? [17:44]
Namworld 90% accuracy. So much for generic statements [17:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;eightball Are you sure? [17:44]
gribble No. [17:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;eightball will you be my trading consultant? [17:45]
gribble In your dreams. [17:45]
lippoper ;;eightball Are you sure, I shouldn't buy in at $100/btc ? [17:45]
gribble No. [17:45]
ThickAsThieves hehe [17:45]
error4733 ;;eightball will satoshi nakatomo come back one day ? [17:45]
gribble You know the answer better than I. [17:45]
lippoper ;;eightball so I should buy in at $100 per btc, right? [17:45]
gribble The answer is certainly yes. [17:45]
ThickAsThieves too many answers [17:45]
error4733 ;;eightball can i trust you ? [17:46]
gribble You know the answer better than I. [17:46]
kakobrekla ok fellas cut the crap now [17:46]
gesell "eightball: satoshi will arrive in a cloud of glory and be welcome by all with eculiptus leaves IF mtgox lag is <120.000 ELSE he will come with vengeance and scorn and smite all those that placed their faith in the magic of the tux" [17:47]
error4733 ;;eightball satoshi will arrive in a cloud of glory and be welcome by all with eculiptus leaves IF mtgox lag is <120.000 ELSE he will come with vengeance and scorn and smite all those that placed their faith in the magic of the tux [17:48]
gribble Of course. [17:48]
gesell ;;eightball WILL satoshi will arrive in a cloud of glory and be welcome by all with eculiptus leaves IF mtgox lag is <120.000 ELSE he will come with vengeance and scorn and smite all those that placed their faith in the magic of the tux? [17:50]
gribble Obviously. [17:50]
gesell cool [17:50]
gesell ;;goxlag [17:50]
gribble MtGox lag is 5.763025 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.011549037574 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU). [17:50]
lippoper how many hours until Gox is back online? [17:50]
kakobrekla gox lagging while doing nothing, cute [17:50]
Bugpowdurr all those cancellations need to update the other ordrs [17:51]
Bugpowdurr for funded status [17:51]
Bugpowdurr most likely [17:51]
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kakobrekla bids have not changed drastically [17:51]
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mircea_popescu lmao the bot really likes the volatility. [17:52]
ThickAsThieves $avg [17:52]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 160.59 [17:52]
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punkman http://images.plus613.net/images/2/e/f/7/www_plus613_net_polarTube.jpg [17:52]
KRS-1 what do the order books look like [17:52]
punkman ^^ [17:53]
Bugpowdurr your bot is retarrrrrded [17:53]
joecool lippoper: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440&iso=20130412T02&year=2013&month=4&day=12&hour=2&min=0&sec=0&msg=MtGox%20Starts%20Trading&csz=1 [17:53]
ThickAsThieves ... [17:53]
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lippoper These stupid bots, keep buying for decimal points higher, then the price increases super slowly, and others sell much lower, then bot panic sells and the other bots make this shit worse, it's like microphone feedback when you have more than one mic in the room. [17:54]
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deadweasel btc-e is selling just above 100 [17:56]
ThickAsThieves so [17:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.49 BTC [+] [17:56]
ThickAsThieves all of the sudden [17:56]
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ThickAsThieves the bot thinks 68 is the best breakeven? [17:56]
ThickAsThieves for puts [17:56]
mircea_popescu $depth p500t [17:56]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: O.USD.P500T Bids: ['1000 @ 2.11888746'] [17:56]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 19.24887621'] [17:56]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1 / 20.2488 [17:57]
gribble 0.049385642606 [17:57]
mircea_popescu 49 even [17:57]
ThickAsThieves not what i meant [17:57]
ThickAsThieves lowest risk break even [17:57]
mircea_popescu $avg [17:57]
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mpexbot mircea_popescu: 160.46 [17:57]
mircea_popescu $depth p161t [17:57]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: O.USD.P161T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.13213399'] [17:57]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 1.79400702'] [17:57]
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mircea_popescu ;;calc 161 / 2.794 [17:58]
gribble 57.6234788833 [17:58]
mircea_popescu 57 [17:58]
ThickAsThieves P116 [17:58]
lippoper 84 currently [17:58]
ThickAsThieves anywho [17:58]
ThickAsThieves thats quite a change [17:58]
mircea_popescu it obviously didn't like the drop [17:59]
ThickAsThieves doesnt seem to be so averse to spikes? [17:59]
taub 76 [17:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 340 @ 0.0032 = 1.088 BTC [+] [18:00]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [18:01]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.00000, Best ask: 123.40098, Bid-ask spread: 3.40098, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 262114.69964268, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 255.00000, 24 hour vwap: 162.35695 [18:01]
mircea_popescu lalaal [18:02]
lippoper $70 [18:02]
taub looks like btc from gox just hit btce [18:02]
lippoper $65 [18:03]
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KRS-1 rubbing my eyes [18:04]
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KRS-1 when to buy..when to buy... [18:04]
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lippoper It would pretty much be impossible to come back from this [18:04]
lippoper All of the idiots thinking Anonymous hacked Mt.Gox is causing everyone to sell everything. [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7551 BTC [-] [18:05]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.755 BTC [-] [18:05]
mircea_popescu mtgox must go. [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7541 BTC [-] [18:05]
taub yep [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75402 BTC [-] [18:05]
lippoper Sell now before they get your account info and make off with your money, they are saying. [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75401 BTC [-] [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.753 = 4.518 BTC [-] [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75202 = 1.504 BTC [-] [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75201 BTC [-] [18:05]
KRS-1 what do the order books look like [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.751 = 1.502 BTC [-] [18:05]
lippoper and the sheeple are selling [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7501 BTC [-] [18:05]
KRS-1 it was the sheeple that put the price where it was [18:06]
deadweasel let them sell [18:06]
ThickAsThieves btc-e at 85 [18:06]
pigeons ;;ticker --currency CAD [18:06]
gribble BTCCAD ticker | Best bid: 118.89825, Best ask: 125.32470, Bid-ask spread: 6.42645, Last trade: 114.00000, 24 hour volume: 903.89633115, 24 hour low: 106.20810, 24 hour high: 254.66214, 24 hour vwap: 167.03981 [18:06]
pigeons oh nevermind thats gox [18:06]
pigeons doing pretty well at virtex [18:06]
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ColdHardMetal chicken little has entered the building. [18:08]
KRS-1 going back up on btc-e [18:08]
Doffx ;;ticker --last [18:09]
gribble 120.00000 [18:09]
lippoper that's because btc-e implemented a verification process in order to stop the Goxers from panic selling all of their BTC on there. [18:09]
topace|2 so wait, mtgox halted trading to "let things cool off" ? [18:09]
ThickAsThieves tahts their new line yeah [18:09]
mjr_ halted trading? [18:09]
ThickAsThieves "Trading is halted until 2013-04-12 02:00am UTC to allow the market to cooldown following the drop in price. Read more details on the support." [18:10]
ThickAsThieves https://support.mtgox.com/entries/21519569-Market-Cooldown-for-12-hours [18:10]
topace|2 thats rediculous [18:10]
Doffx Wow, thats so bad. [18:10]
topace|2 "we have lots of money held in bitcoins, so we dont want the price to go down anymore, so we're halting trading" [18:10]
ThickAsThieves i doubt thats it [18:10]
taub the worst is that they think it helps [18:10]
ThickAsThieves they dont care about price value [18:11]
taub if they think price is irrational they should buy up themselves [18:11]
taub isntead of holding trading [18:11]
Doffx Yeah, why would they need to [18:11]
Doffx The users bring the money and btc [18:11]
lippoper well, bigger price value == more money in exchange fees, same percentage, bigger cuts. [18:11]
Doffx They shouldnt have to carry much on hand [18:11]
mircea_popescu topace|2 fractional reserve ftw. [18:11]
pigeons of course it has nothing to do with price, all to do with lack of techrastructure [18:11]
topace|2 pigeons: of course [18:12]
topace|2 heh [18:12]
punkman someone should halt MagicalTux from talking [18:13]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173433.0 [18:13]
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mircea_popescu ;;title [18:13]
gribble (title ) -- Returns the HTML of a URL. [18:13]
ThickAsThieves i think the problem is they simply made too much money to give a shit about anything [18:13]
mircea_popescu ;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173433.0 [18:13]
taub hilarious how people go DONT SELL Y OU ARE KILLING IT on the btce chat [18:13]
gribble PSA: Bitcoin's survival and long term prospects depend on MtGox getting killed. [18:14]
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taub if we all close our eyes maybe it wont happen! [18:14]
Scrat btc-e is great entertainment right now [18:14]
Scrat btc-e chat* [18:14]
mircea_popescu that;s right gribble boy. [18:14]
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error4733 59€ on BTC 24 [18:15]
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damientrog it's crashing spectacularly on BTC-24 [18:15]
taub "pice of shit scamsite" [18:15]
taub hahah [18:15]
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pigeons there hasn't been a buying opportunity like this in several days!! [18:16]
mircea_popescu lol [18:16]
mircea_popescu ever since last week!1 [18:16]
pigeons where's max? [18:17]
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mircea_popescu pigeons keiser ? he's crying like a leetal bitch. [18:17]
ChaangNoi ? [18:17]
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gesell no worries, max keiser is going to save us [18:18]
ChaangNoi gox shut down for 36 hours? [18:18]
ChaangNoi at least that will stop the weekend dip, lol [18:18]
DeaDTerra 10 Hours [18:18]
taub people will just rush to other exchanges... [18:18]
taub you can still withdraw [18:18]
DeaDTerra Bitstamp is currently trading at 79$ [18:18]
gesell ChaangNoi: where are you seing this 36 h? [18:18]
ChaangNoi 79$ ! [18:18]
taub this is like open outcry ;) [18:18]
jborkl_ Trading is halted until 2013-04-12 02:00am UTC to allow the market to cooldown following the drop in price. Read more details on the support. Additionally trading fees will not be charged within 48 hours of trading resuming (until 2013-04-14 02:00am UTC). [18:19]
ChaangNoi i might have failed at maths [18:19]
mircea_popescu you can still withdraw <<< you can still withdraw YET [18:19]
mircea_popescu once they run out of reserves what happens ? [18:19]
error4733 LTC 1.5$ hahaha [18:19]
taub why you think they run fractional reserve tho? [18:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12586 @ 0.00070215 = 8.8373 BTC [+] [18:20]
mircea_popescu because they ran in the red for very very long. [18:20]
ChaangNoi $79.. that is some panic selling i guess [18:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4019 @ 0.00070306 = 2.8256 BTC [+] [18:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7187 @ 0.00071567 = 5.1435 BTC [+] [18:20]
punkman there was $70 on bitstamp for a moment yesterday [18:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00071589 = 6.1567 BTC [+] [18:21]
mircea_popescu time for a rehash of http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/ [18:21]
mircea_popescu i guess. [18:21]
DeaDTerra and Bitstamps down... [18:21]
DeaDTerra chaotic... [18:22]
jborkl_ btc e 68 [18:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 40 @ 0.27621517 = 11.0486 BTC [-] [18:22]
taub dont think i can recommend bitfloor yet [18:22]
taub i love their fee structure, but they are too instable and small time [18:22]
gesell think about this for one second: even if there were enough people wanting to buy at this low price, they wont even be able to because of the time it takes to wire money in to another exchange. However, those wanting to sell can get their BTC more easily to another exchange. So for the next 24h, it will be a sellers market on [18:24]
mircea_popescu gesell pretty much [18:24]
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Doffx You know mircea_popescu, I think the loss people may or may not get tells the lesson much better than calling people newbs. [18:24]
error4733 bid @ 43.09127 [18:25]
error4733 ask @ 53.00000 [18:25]
mircea_popescu Doffx i think so too. [18:25]
error4733 € on BTC 24 WTFFFFFF [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C116T] 20 @ 0.18251672 = 3.6503 BTC [+] [18:25]
damientrog damn I wish funds left on btc-24 to buy [18:25]
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KRS-1 tjos os ficled i[ [18:25]
KRS-1 !! [18:25]
joecool Doffx: where's the fun in that though? [18:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [+] [18:26]
mjr_ so mt gox has suspended trading? [18:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+] [18:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [+] [18:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.3 = 4.5 BTC [+] [18:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [+] [18:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.31 = 4.96 BTC [+] [18:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.31 = 6.2 BTC [+] [18:26]
Doffx I dont know, I dont find fun in telling people I told you so either. [18:26]
error4733 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKzymtAVBqg [18:26]
KRS-1 mjr: yep [18:26]
mircea_popescu Doffx somebody has to. [18:26]
KRS-1 til tom [18:26]
ChaangNoi man... this is insane [18:26]
Doffx No, nobody has to. [18:26]
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gesell suprisingnly the volume on bitcoin-24 still seems level [18:27]
mircea_popescu Doffx if everybody shuns this responsibility we just get us-style systemic failurer. [18:27]
mircea_popescu "nobody has to tell americans they're lazy stupid and fat" [18:27]
Doffx Educating people, and building each other nets better results, but we never do that. [18:27]
mircea_popescu just let them fritter away into nothingness and then starve. sure. [18:27]
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bgupta mircea_popescu: So you've called folks out for having price too high and not selling. Is there a plan for the inverse? "Guys bitcoin should not be selling below $2, please stop selling." ;) [18:27]
mircea_popescu Doffx THIS is education. education begins and ends with telling stupid people they are stupid [18:27]
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mircea_popescu and forcing them to interiorise this, AGAINST their will. [18:27]
mircea_popescu that's education. [18:27]
gesell this is healthy [18:28]
ThickAsThieves 59 at btc-e [18:28]
Doffx Sigh.. you assume they are stupid, and not just caught up in some weird BTC euphoria, emotion trumps rational thought. [18:28]
gesell but i have to take a break [18:28]
gesell ciao [18:28]
mircea_popescu Doffx that is stupid. [18:28]
mircea_popescu the very definition of stupid. [18:28]
ThickAsThieves euphoria is the stupod [18:28]
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ThickAsThieves shouldve been a warning sign [18:28]
mircea_popescu bgupta heh. it will find its level. [18:29]
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ThickAsThieves 80 at bitfloor [18:30]
gtlz lol [18:30]
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lippoper 55 [18:31]
lippoper on btc-e [18:31]
joecool ;;goxlag [18:31]
gribble MtGox lag is 8.984516 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0180048694683 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU). [18:31]
joecool it lags while doing nothing [18:31]
evoorhees hey guys, ready for another crazy day on the markets? lol [18:31]
error4733 haha sure [18:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27000101 BTC [-] [18:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.270001 = 0.54 BTC [-] [18:32]
error4733 good for S.dice ! [18:32]
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Doffx They stopped the market! [18:32]
Doffx Now that is "Stupid" [18:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-] [18:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26013001 BTC [-] [18:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.26013 = 0.5203 BTC [-] [18:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26011 BTC [-] [18:33]
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pigeons evoorhees: i was reading about a backlog of satoshi dice payouts, what's that all about? [18:34]
error4733 *opening curtain, looking at sky first time since 10 days [18:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26013001 BTC [+] [18:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.26011 = 0.5202 BTC [-] [18:35]
ChaangNoi btc-e changed from user name to e-mail... i used some random e-mail and i dont know what it is, cant log in... fail... [18:35]
lippoper that's what happens lol [18:35]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26013001 BTC [+] [18:36]
lippoper GEM from BTC-E chat: "schicksal: MtGox has been suspended by the local japanese authorities for the past 24 hours for inquiry into money laundering via BTC" [18:37]
evoorhees pigeons - the site is hung up for an hour or so, that might be what you're refering to [18:37]
evoorhees we're resetting here shortly [18:37]
evoorhees (all bets will process as normal) [18:37]
pigeons thanks [18:37]
ChaangNoi lippoper dont quote the troll box here, lol [18:39]
error4733 omg from btc e trollbox ? quick, SELL [18:39]
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lippoper ChaangNoi, I forgot to put my ROFL after the quote [18:39]
ChaangNoi :) [18:40]
lippoper but seriously FoxNews planned this? How do they have a story already out? http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/04/11/bitcoin-electronic-cash-beloved-by-hackers/ [18:40]
lippoper "Just days ago the total value of bitcoins in circulation hit $2 billion, up from a tiny fraction of that last year. But late Wednesday, Bitcoin crashed, shedding more than 60 percent of its value in the space of a few hours before recouping some of its losses. Critics say the roller coaster currency movements are just another sign that Bitcoin is a bubble waiting to burst." [18:40]
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mircea_popescu takes five minutes to type something into the box. [18:41]
lippoper "On Tuesday, the price of a single bitcoin had topped $200. On Wednesday, it hit $266 before a flash crash dragged it back down to just over $100. By Thursday, bitcoins were trading for around $150." [18:41]
lippoper I guess so [18:41]
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lippoper "Some may wonder whether Caldwell's coins will one day be among the few physical reminders of an expensive fad that evaporated into the ether -- perhaps the result of a breakdown in its electronic architecture, or maybe after a crackdown by government regulators." [18:43]
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lippoper so from 260 -> 150 -> 50 [18:44]
lippoper in the last 2 days [18:44]
kakobrekla you can skip the 150 [18:44]
ThickAsThieves usagi poking the dragon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112876.msg1804012#msg1804012 [18:46]
ChaangNoi tiberslav! [18:46]
Namworld What an EPIC bubble [18:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7443 BTC [-] [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7442 BTC [-] [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7441 BTC [-] [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.744 BTC [-] [18:47]
taub when is 2am utc? [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7431 BTC [-] [18:47]
taub 12 hours? [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.74 = 2.96 BTC [-] [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.74 = 8.88 BTC [-] [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7351 BTC [-] [18:47]
mircea_popescu like 10 [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.735 = 3.675 BTC [-] [18:47]
taub kk [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7301 BTC [-] [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.73 = 2.92 BTC [-] [18:47]
taub right when i sleep crap [18:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.729 = 3.645 BTC [-] [18:47]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.729 BTC [-] [18:47]
ThickAsThieves [11:47] <+amphipod> Apr11 15:46:30 ripple 0.0001 @ 149.99482125 USD [18:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.728 = 3.64 BTC [-] [18:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.727 = 3.635 BTC [-] [18:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7261 = 4.3566 BTC [-] [18:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72602 BTC [-] [18:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.725 = 4.35 BTC [-] [18:48]
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assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00104 BTC [-] [18:49]
deadweasel $avg [18:49]
mpexbot deadweasel: 156.12 [18:50]
ColdHardMetal the worst thing is going to be reading all the "I told you so" posts all over the internet. [18:50]
bitesak ;;ticker [18:50]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.00000, Best ask: 123.40098, Bid-ask spread: 3.40098, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 258375.90467927, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 246.94000, 24 hour vwap: 161.16211 [18:50]
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mircea_popescu ColdHardMetal i got mine done early :p [18:51]
ChaangNoi at least a got a good box of cigars out of this bubble:) [18:51]
ThickAsThieves lol [18:51]
ColdHardMetal mp: lol [18:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 14 @ 0.001033 = 0.0145 BTC [-] [18:51]
ThickAsThieves gox closing for 1 day is like a master stroke [18:51]
ThickAsThieves cash is stuck just long enough [18:52]
ThickAsThieves btc is freely movable [18:52]
ColdHardMetal already sold those coins Chaang, so we're both in good shape :) [18:52]
ThickAsThieves all that can happen is sell [18:52]
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pgp2 holy fuck - afk for 2 hours and this is what happens... [18:52]
Scrat pgp2: lol [18:53]
ThickAsThieves bitfloor not trading [18:54]
mircea_popescu bitcoin-central still is (euro) [18:54]
mircea_popescu pgp2 must stay glued to monityor nao [18:54]
ThickAsThieves good thing i have btc that just got there.... [18:54]
ChaangNoi CHM i hoe you sold at $250 [18:55]
bgupta So curious.. all the sites that are helping to facilitate RL commerce using btx, seem to rely on exchange values to help set spot exchange rates.. How will these sites operate.. e.g - bitpay [18:56]
mircea_popescu bgupta don't ask ;/ [18:56]
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mircea_popescu when i say mtgox is bitcoin's #1 enemy, i mean it. [18:56]
mircea_popescu they've single handedly fucked up everything. [18:56]
ColdHardMetal Chaang: nah, nothing quite that high, but still well in the money. [18:56]
ChaangNoi funny how btc-e a russian mob site is the large btc usd exchange in operation in the whole world... right now... [18:56]
mircea_popescu again. [18:56]
taub ;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173201.0 [18:57]
taub :c [18:57]
gribble mtgox under Distributed Denial of Competence attack [18:57]
gtlz lol ^ [18:57]
mircea_popescu lol [18:58]
unbalanced Virtex dropped to 65 and now up to 100 again [18:58]
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pgp2 ;; goxlag [18:58]
gribble MtGox lag is 10.913419 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0218703694833 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU). [18:58]
pgp2 irc from a cell phone... not so great... [18:59]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P140T] 3 @ 0.08275503 = 0.2483 BTC [+] [19:00]
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ThickAsThieves a drop from 265 to 105 is no sweat, but you go from 150 to 120 and its time to halt trading [19:00]
error4733 75K news users in 10 days, if you compare to 100K for ALL 2012, some ppl on MTgox shit some brick atm [19:00]
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jborkl_ btce down now [19:00]
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Scrat lol, everything is down [19:01]
jcpham we gave up on the exchanges [19:01]
mjr_ yeah [19:01]
jcpham otc price is 120 [19:01]
pgp2 what a joke [19:01]
mjr_ that seems to be the real price [19:01]
jcpham if anyone is interested [19:01]
mjr_ around 120 i think [19:01]
jcpham we seem to have agrred on that [19:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [+] [19:01]
mircea_popescu jcpham way to go. [19:02]
jcpham i've been saying for a long time -otc shouldn't exactly base their trades off the ticker [19:02]
jcpham seems like a good excuse now [19:02]
joecool we don't [19:02]
jcpham these exchanges are fucked [19:02]
mircea_popescu anyway, deposits flushed. [19:02]
ColdHardMetal I keep seeing exchanges scroll by on -market I've never even heard of before. [19:02]
pgp2 maybe we should meetup in regional public places and start some open outcry pit trading.. [19:02]
ColdHardMetal any fiat'll do apparently. [19:02]
jcpham the price is what sellers say it is [19:03]
error4733 BTC E up, F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5 [19:03]
jcpham if the counterparty agrees to it, that's the price [19:03]
taub i think this will be a long hurtful downtrend [19:03]
joecool gribble *can* base off gox, but majority of trades I do get agreed upon on trade-by-trade [19:03]
taub not a quick v dip [19:03]
taub the 2011 crash took almost two years to recover [19:03]
joecool taub: things were a lot different in 2011 [19:04]
mjr_ YES open outcry FTW [19:04]
mjr_ eh, i think we will see gox finally go down [19:04]
mjr_ and people get some good exchanges [19:04]
mjr_ that actually are professional [19:04]
joecool k [19:04]
taub lets hope so [19:04]
taub i want a 0% exchange that isn't exploitable >:D [19:05]
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joecool in the meanwhile MT is sweating and eating pizza while people panic [19:05]
joecool :D [19:05]
mjr_ i cannot believe that fucking they said "we are a victim of our own success, look at our impressive numbers" [19:05]
taub yes [19:05]
taub they have to put some japanese people into pr [19:05]
joecool mircea_popescu: maybe you should do a post about his diet, https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/322317865443274752/photo/1 [19:05]
pgp2 douche bags [19:06]
Namworld the MtGox orderbook is MELTING [19:06]
taub and be a bit humbler... how about a "we are very sorry" [19:06]
Namworld it's just funny [19:06]
mjr_ they are halted [19:06]
mjr_ what would their order book be good for? [19:06]
pgp2 bitfloor back up? [19:06]
mjr_ we are sorry for doing serious damage to an amazing community due to our incompetence [19:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00069713 = 1.7428 BTC [-] [19:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00069712 = 1.3942 BTC [-] [19:06]
mjr_ that would be a nice start [19:06]
Namworld they're mostly damaging the speculators tho... [19:06]
mjr_ true [19:06]
Namworld And I say good riddance [19:07]
Scrat https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/303178594283298817/photo/1 [19:07]
Scrat is he boasting? [19:07]
ChaangNoi coinlab will replace gox sorta? [19:07]
mircea_popescu joecool obviously makes a body smart. [19:07]
mjr_ i agree...to some extent, but press is not gonna be good [19:07]
mircea_popescu we are sorry for doing serious damage to an amazing community due to our incompetence <<< that. [19:08]
Scrat Namworld: is there an up to date gox orderbook? [19:08]
mjr_ bitfinex is still up trading around 120 as well [19:08]
mircea_popescu you gave us 1mn a month+ for the past coupla months, we fucked it all up. [19:08]
Namworld yes, clarkmoody and bitcoincharts [19:08]
Namworld they update [19:08]
taub lmao bitfinex still trading? [19:08]
pgp2 82 on bitfloor [19:08]
Namworld it's only placing new orders that's suspended [19:08]
taub because mtgox is still quoting 120 [19:08]
mjr_ 99 on bitfloor i see [19:09]
mircea_popescu taub taht'll be the amusement of the weekend, stuff like bitfinex [19:09]
Namworld FFFUUUUCCCCKKK [19:10]
Namworld My PUTS [19:10]
Namworld they sold! [19:10]
mjr_ Trade with confidence on the world's largest Bitcoin exchange! [19:10]
mjr_ ^^Really? [19:10]
pigeons bitfinex is not routing orders to gox, only internally, bid 110 ask 148 [19:10]
Scrat russia saves the day [19:11]
mjr_ love the russians today [19:11]
mjr_ have to appreciate mpex and people who use it [19:12]
mjr_ no dumping of stocks [19:12]
mjr_ prices steady [19:12]
pgp2 and bitfinex will liquidate margin positions based on those spreads - lol [19:12]
Namworld fuck [19:12]
mjr_ yeah people losing their shirts today [19:12]
Namworld fuckfuckfuck [19:12]
Namworld I want my puts back lol [19:12]
mjr_ though i see it as 130/130 [19:13]
mjr_ on BFX [19:13]
mjr_ buy buy buy on bitfloor lol [19:13]
pigeons mjr_: wait for the actual bids and asks to load, don't just look at the suggestion [19:14]
mjr_ i am looking directly at the order book [19:14]
pigeons bid 106 ask 148 [19:14]
mjr_ 122/122 [19:14]
splnkr btce back to 100 [19:14]
ColdHardMetal I doubt anyone was really set up for it, but some pretty sick arb spots today. [19:14]
mjr_ or you can look directly at the trades [19:14]
mjr_ public trades history- last: 122.1 [19:15]
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splnkr ColdHardMetal: are you including MtGox's frozen book? [19:15]
splnkr i don't see a lot of arb if not…and if so it's illusory [19:15]
pigeons mjr_: my bad, i was reading them reverse order [19:15]
mircea_popescu Namworld it srsly doesn't look like it;'s going to go down too badly. [19:15]
mircea_popescu were your puts high ? [19:15]
ColdHardMetal spinkr: nope. [19:15]
splnkr oh i see what you mean, at certain points in the day…looks like there are some actors maybe doing it then [19:16]
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Namworld 134 [19:18]
Namworld well they sold for 0.25, decent [19:18]
Namworld But not if I can't get more and it keeps crashing... [19:18]
Namworld the MtGox mess might hurt BTC badly [19:18]
ColdHardMetal could be even better when taking synthetic rates into consideration. you'd need a lot of data at hand to make that work though. [19:18]
Namworld I think I could have gotten more for them tho... [19:19]
Namworld Either way I sold BTC at 250, sold some puts. So much BTC profit [19:19]
Namworld I can buyback BTC-BOND in full pretty much [19:19]
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mjr_ lol, its becoming a meme "victim of their own success" [19:19]
mjr_ ... [19:19]
Namworld Without selling anything from my portfolio [19:19]
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mircea_popescu do you know who else was a victim of his own success ? [19:20]
mircea_popescu hitler. [19:20]
mircea_popescu hitler was a victim of his own success. [19:20]
mircea_popescu also saddam hussein was a victim of his own success [19:20]
mircea_popescu and that osama guy. [19:20]
mjr_ do they not realize how easy it would have been to limit trades to 1 btc units? poof there goes prob OVER 90% of your volume, maybe you could handle that [19:20]
mjr_ that is why most exchanges don't really allow odd lots for everyone [19:21]
pigeons thats what virwox did until the recent value increase, now they allow .1 increments [19:21]
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mjr_ well...it is super obvious [19:21]
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mjr_ i don't think they will get the chance to remedy their stupidity [19:21]
kakobrekla :) [19:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 13510 @ 0.0027 = 36.477 BTC [-] [19:23]
Namworld I think earnings... people had lots of calls before the crash I think [19:24]
deadweasel if they weren't exercised [19:25]
deadweasel 227 was last vwap... so any that don't break even there would be profit for mpe [19:25]
deadweasel x [19:25]
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error4733 Sick, 6.5K sold just before MtGox close "hey dude, we gonna switch off for 12h, sold buddy !" [19:30]
error4733 http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/btceUSD#rg2zig30-minztgSza1gEMAzm1g10za2gEMAzm2g21zv [19:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 425 @ 0.0029486 = 1.2532 BTC [+] [19:30]
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mircea_popescu error4733 nasty. [19:31]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173512.0 lol [19:32]
Namworld With my gains, I think I should repay my debt [19:32]
Namworld and put some aside for longterm... [19:33]
Namworld I got plenty left to trade too [19:33]
Namworld I think some BTC-BOND holders might be sad tho... they liked my bond... [19:33]
pgp mt gox is really not going to trade for the next 9.5 hours... am I reading that right? [19:34]
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thepuller ;;ticker [19:34]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.00000, Best ask: 123.40098, Bid-ask spread: 3.40098, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 253681.25852100, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 236.61711, 24 hour vwap: 159.80297 [19:34]
error4733 pgp, yes [19:34]
TomServo pgp: that's the word on the street [19:34]
mircea_popescu pgp yes [19:34]
thepuller ;;asks 170 [19:34]
gribble There are currently 6396.6254 bitcoins offered at or under 170.0 USD, worth 963814.770931 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds [19:35]
splnkr does any other exchange do that? [19:35]
mircea_popescu no. [19:35]
thepuller ;;bids 100 [19:35]
gribble There are currently 9319.4263 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 999793.039756 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.8258 seconds [19:35]
pgp beyond the pale... [19:35]
thepuller ;;bids 0 [19:35]
gribble There are currently 92501115 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6073925.62664 USD in total. | Data vintage: 38.0100 seconds [19:35]
Namworld the bids orderbook is melting while people are waiting to be able to sell... [19:35]
Namworld This is going to get ugly... [19:35]
thepuller ;;goxlag [19:35]
gribble MtGox lag is 6.568517 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0131632345232 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU). [19:35]
bgupta bids orderbook? [19:36]
Namworld Major lag when gox comes back [19:36]
bgupta otc? [19:36]
thepuller Gox is down? [19:36]
bgupta oh [19:36]
Namworld no, the bids orderbook on Gox [19:36]
pgp is gox processing BTC withdrawls? [19:36]
mircea_popescu while supplies last. [19:36]
splnkr yeah…moved my funds off yesterday when they got all dicey with the order lag. can't be having that [19:37]
thepuller !ticker m ^oix [19:37]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.90251552 / 218.88143499 / 226.22012381 (14550 shares, 2,478.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [19:37]
splnkr i'm on the hook for about $10 if they evaporate [19:37]
splnkr =D [19:37]
thepuller Lol [19:37]
thepuller Me too [19:37]
bgupta down to "cool the market" funny they didn't do that on the way up. :) Also they claim they will be upgrading to a larger server. (A larger server!! Wow!! Perhaps we can get them a mainframe, because distributed computing hasn't been invented yet.) [19:37]
splnkr "servers" [19:37]
splnkr lol [19:37]
thepuller Hahahanaha [19:38]
thepuller Looks like mi [19:38]
error4733 POPCORN time ! [19:38]
splnkr coming soon, MtSplnkr from my home server [19:38]
TomServo bgupta: dude, it's probably like a whole 4U server too [19:38]
thepuller mircea_popescu is gox finally getting their shit together? [19:38]
pgp commodore 64 to and apple IIe [19:38]
thepuller ;;bc,24hprc [19:38]
gribble 152.87 [19:38]
mircea_popescu thepuller nope [19:38]
thepuller Waah the bitcoin world is ending [19:38]
thepuller Lol [19:38]
bgupta the said they were upgrading to a 128GB RAM machine.. that's a 2U server [19:39]
mircea_popescu mtgox;d better be ending,. [19:39]
Scrat Apr11 16:38:39 mtgox 4.0000 @ 123.40098 USD [19:39]
Scrat what [19:39]
splnkr a lot has changed since "July 2011" [19:39]
bgupta Might even be able to get a 1U server with 128GB [19:39]
TomServo you can, I was kidding [19:39]
mircea_popescu splnkr yea, for some values of a lot that are nothing at all. [19:39]
Scrat there was a gox trade just now [19:39]
Scrat unless amphipod is trolling [19:39]
Namworld ok, who wants to buy some puts and at what price? [19:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.54 = 3.08 BTC [+] [19:40]
ThickAsThieves scrat that trade shows on mtgox.com too [19:41]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves so then not quite as down as all that ? [19:42]
splnkr lol "we're going offline for 12 hours, wait i mean 1.2 hours" [19:42]
TomServo those decimals can be sneaky [19:42]
ThickAsThieves it was the only trade [19:43]
ThickAsThieves maybe they rebooted and one snuck in [19:43]
mjr_ i wonder whats going on at that office right now [19:43]
TomServo mjr_: https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/322317865443274752/photo/1 [19:44]
Scrat mjr_: pride [19:44]
error4733 MtGox is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get [19:44]
mjr_ hahahaha [19:44]
mircea_popescu ya, except they're monty pythion chocolates [19:44]
mircea_popescu fried bug praline [19:45]
splnkr in other news, MtGox USD Coupon codes are no longer a thing [19:45]
splnkr "deprecated" today! [19:45]
mjr_ that was announced a while ago, right? [19:45]
splnkr yep [19:45]
ThickAsThieves at least we know there's a good chance he'll die painfully from a hear attack [19:45]
mjr_ that smacks of fractional reserve [19:45]
ThickAsThieves heart* [19:45]
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mircea_popescu mjr_ it does./ [19:45]
mjr_ ugh...i almost wouldn't mind the illiquidity if they would just go away [19:46]
splnkr what would the ideal exchange situation be like? right now it's like we have regional and fragmented and scattered ones [19:47]
splnkr we can see the weaknesses of centralization at this point i'd say.... [19:47]
splnkr but there needs to be some critical mass for there to be volume [19:47]
splnkr since lag is such an issue, regional exchanges make some sense [19:48]
ThickAsThieves maybe ripple isnt so crazy [19:49]
error4733 this [19:50]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+] [19:51]
splnkr well ripple is cool for what it is, but it isn't "digital cash" in the same way bitcoin is either [19:52]
mjr_ hmmm...irrational exuberance, and then irrational panic [19:52]
error4733 no yet, but the all idea behind is nice [19:52]
mjr_ from what i can see...not one thing has materially changed about bitcoin in the last few days... [19:52]
pigeons hahaha like that ever matters [19:53]
mjr_ not even a hack this time... [19:53]
splnkr if's for the bills and janes of the world that all owe each other small sums…in other words personas they used to design the service that don't really exist =P [19:53]
splnkr s/if's/it's [19:53]
mjr_ though think of it..."we crashed the market back in 2011, and we did it again in 2013, care to trade?" [19:53]
splnkr but yeah the Ripple apporach maybe could work to make better exchange algorithms [19:55]
Scrat the old ripple concept [19:55]
Scrat not ripple.com [19:55]
Scrat centrally issued currency no thanks [19:55]
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jcpham mircea_popescu i have just now stumbled on your twitter [19:57]
jcpham i am laughing loudly [19:57]
mircea_popescu hehe [19:57]
ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/11/4209650/why-would-anyone-want-to-kill-shane-todd [19:57]
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bgupta So how much fiat would it take for a professional organization (think corp/gov) to develop an inexpensive mining ASIC, mass produce it, and run enough to get 51%? (Guessing the biggest issue would be time.) And what real defense does our network have against such an attack? [20:01]
bgupta guessing the design and prototype could certainly be developed for < $500,000. [20:03]
ThickAsThieves a few problems [20:03]
ThickAsThieves which arm of gov would do that? [20:03]
ThickAsThieves and how do they get approval for that kind of spending? [20:03]
ThickAsThieves then [20:03]
ThickAsThieves if they do [20:03]
ThickAsThieves to what end? [20:03]
Doffx Lol, they need approval? [20:03]
Scrat discretionary funding [20:04]
ThickAsThieves the bitcoin idea doesnt die [20:04]
ThickAsThieves if you kill one chain [20:04]
jborkl_ it would take 10 years just to get the idea signed off on [20:04]
mircea_popescu bgupta it'd be about 100mn [20:04]
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ThickAsThieves even then [20:04]
jborkl_ then 10 x over budget and it doesnt work [20:04]
ThickAsThieves they just split it [20:04]
ThickAsThieves people ignire the gov one [20:04]
Doffx I would think they could do very quickly, I think they would rather just use it as a tool to outlaw crytpo coins period though [20:04]
thestring !ticker m s.mpoe [20:04]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068433 / 0.00070408 / 0.000716 (215655 shares, 151.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00068976 / 0.000716 (1916705 shares, 1,322.07 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068799 / 0.00077505 (9619968 shares, 6,618.52 BTC) [20:04]
ThickAsThieves its a losing battle before it starts [20:05]
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bgupta Guessing they'd have to push through NSA, or some other black box budget [20:05]
ThickAsThieves litecoiners would be thrilled [20:05]
ThickAsThieves hehe [20:05]
Doffx I think there is a long battle ahead, I dont know who the victor will be but the fight is just beggining. [20:05]
bgupta ThickAsThieves: Litecoin has same vuln. [20:06]
ThickAsThieves right [20:06]
ThickAsThieves but [20:06]
ThickAsThieves they just keep building miners? [20:06]
mircea_popescu Doffx has it. [20:06]
ThickAsThieves probly better ways to kill bitcoin [20:06]
ThickAsThieves regulate web traffic maybe [20:07]
ThickAsThieves need a license for botlike behavior [20:07]
Doffx Make people feel stupid for making a bad choice, that burn is enough to kill BTC. [20:07]
ThickAsThieves or such [20:07]
bgupta listen it will be a lot easier to get 100mn budget than to pass a law outtlawing bitcoin.. The problem with outlawing bitcoin, is that it gives bitcoin some credability and noteriety, and wouldn't kill it.. [20:07]
benkay don't confuse your emotions with economics doffx [20:07]
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Doffx What am I being emotional about? [20:08]
ThickAsThieves who said to outlaw it? [20:08]
ThickAsThieves maybe i have them on ignore already [20:08]
joecool oh yeah that same burn killed gambling too [20:08]
joecool lol [20:08]
bgupta Doffx said it ThickAsThieves [20:08]
ThickAsThieves what about what i said about web traffic [20:09]
bgupta Doffx: Make people feel stupid for making a bad choice, that burn is enough to kill BTC. [20:09]
benkay feeling stupid about making a bad choice won't kill btc. [20:09]
Doffx Now BTC is gambling? I thought BTC and gambling were different. [20:09]
ThickAsThieves comcast sent me a warning when i started mining, [20:09]
ThickAsThieves Warning your compuer mayb be infected and is showing bit-like behavior [20:09]
ThickAsThieves it said [20:09]
ThickAsThieves bot-like* [20:09]
Doffx I was saying that the government could help do that bgupta [20:09]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.725 BTC [-] [20:10]
ThickAsThieves that means mining is detectable [20:10]
ThickAsThieves and this preventable [20:10]
ThickAsThieves this* [20:10]
ThickAsThieves thus* [20:10]
joecool ThickAsThieves: you should send them a warning back about tampering with http connections [20:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32874999 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32875 = 3.2875 BTC [+] [20:11]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32899999 BTC [+] [20:11]
TomServo ThickAsThieves: there are a number of ways to avoid that [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.329 = 1.316 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.33 = 2.64 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.341 = 6.82 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 31 @ 0.3415 = 10.5865 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.342 = 0.684 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.348 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.34999999 = 8.75 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.35 = 3.5 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 52 @ 0.35 = 18.2 BTC [+] [20:11]
ThickAsThieves nice [20:11]
joecool ie. use a VPN [20:11]
Doffx I was more trying to point out alternatives to just forking the chain with a 51% attack. [20:12]
ThickAsThieves forking doesnt kill it anyway [20:12]
ThickAsThieves just strikes confidence [20:12]
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pandnh4 hi, does anyone have a good reading on current btc price as mtgox is not trading? [20:13]
pandnh4 clarkmoody? [20:13]
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Doffx 90-120 [20:13]
imsaguy .. [20:13]
imsaguy people [20:13]
kakobrekla 80-110 [20:13]
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imsaguy there is no 'current price' [20:13]
imsaguy the 'current price' is whatever price you're willing to buy or selli tat [20:13]
imsaguy selling at* [20:13]
kakobrekla last price then [20:13]
Doffx oh 80 now [20:14]
pandnh4 ok, can you recommend a reasonable price? [20:14]
imsaguy last price? wtf knows [20:14]
imsaguy deals always going on [20:14]
bgupta ok the govt doesn't have to kill it kill it.. just needs to prevent it from becoming a threat [20:14]
Doffx Im looking at 5 different exchanges [20:14]
Doffx gl finding a good price haha [20:14]
bgupta allthough mtgox perhaps will do that for them [20:14]
imsaguy http://i0.sinaimg.cn/gm/2013/0407/U8781P115DT20130407163218.jpg [20:15]
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imsaguy oh [20:16]
imsaguy and for more reading [20:16]
imsaguy this is why we can't carry water on to planes: http://www.techspot.com/news/52211-hacker-demonstrates-how-to-hijack-an-airplane-using-an-android-app.html [20:16]
imsaguy water = dangerous [20:16]
imsaguy phones that hack planes = not dangerous [20:16]
pandnh4 bugpowder can you pm me? [20:16]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.35 = 6.3 BTC [+] [20:20]
Doffx Great, now you wont be able to bring your phone on the plane either. [20:20]
thestring ;;seen EskimoBob [20:20]
gribble EskimoBob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 23 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: look like this party i over [20:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.31 = 4.65 BTC [+] [20:21]
splnkr i like this on the Mt Gox FB page 7 hours ago "Maintenance Over however we are now under a DDoS attack." [20:21]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+] [20:22]
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ThickAsThieves gox queue at 13000 [20:24]
ThickAsThieves buy buy buy! [20:24]
ThickAsThieves :/ [20:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00328798 = 0.3288 BTC [+] [20:24]
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mod6 gox trading haulted until 2AM UTC? [20:28]
mod6 https://support.mtgox.com/entries/21519569-Market-Cooldown-for-12-hours [20:29]
pigeons where have you been? [20:29]
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mod6 *halted [20:30]
mod6 pigeons: afk [20:30]
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mod6 people blowing me up all fuckin night and day [20:30]
mod6 had enough [20:31]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2 BTC [-] [20:32]
mircea_popescu "Looks like MtGox not only froze trading but also bitcoin withdrawals, I've withdrawn 4 hours ago prior to trade being stopped and even though it shows the withdraw in my account, there is no record of it in the blockchain whatsoever." [20:33]
mircea_popescu this a fact ? [20:33]
ThickAsThieves no [20:33]
ThickAsThieves i withdrew fine [20:33]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173433.msg1806337#msg1806337 [20:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [-] [20:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [-] [20:37]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.3989 = 0.7978 BTC [+] [20:38]
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ThickAsThieves Lucif is calling $50 low [20:44]
ThickAsThieves he's cashed out though [20:44]
Lyspooner i came here to watch mircea_popescu get mad at mt gox [20:45]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner lol you're late. [20:45]
topace Lyspooner: thats why we're all here [20:45]
mod6 heheh. im late too the party too. so don't feel bad. :] [20:45]
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Lyspooner i'm having a very difficult time buying more coins at 250 [20:46]
Lyspooner what gives? [20:46]
mod6 haha [20:46]
mircea_popescu lol [20:46]
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jcpham still holding around 100 otc [20:46]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/ [20:47]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173512.msg1805951 also this is pretty lol [20:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34999999 BTC [-] [20:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.35 = 10.5 BTC [+] [20:48]
mircea_popescu funny how the btc that was exchange-crazed flows back to investments. [20:48]
jborkl_ nice blog post mp [20:48]
mircea_popescu hopefully kicks some sense into ppls. [20:49]
KRS-1 this rabbit hole goes deep [20:50]
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mircea_popescu o look! mtgox is doing 70% of all bitcoin trades! [20:50]
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ThickAsThieves nope 80% [20:51]
mircea_popescu darn you didn't look quick enough and missed it. [20:51]
Lyspooner Bruce Wagner doesn't belong in that list [20:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.54 = 3.08 BTC [+] [20:52]
mircea_popescu not a victim or not of success ? [20:52]
Lyspooner i don't think he was conceited or deceitful (in bitcoinland) [20:52]
mircea_popescu you know about his entire prior conviction thing right ? [20:52]
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Lyspooner yes [20:52]
mircea_popescu seems eerly similar to my taste. judge decided he didn't do anything [20:53]
ThickAsThieves so when does Mark Karpeles get on the list? [20:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.725 = 7.25 BTC [-] [20:53]
mircea_popescu he believes he's a victim of own success. [20:53]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00305 BTC [+] [20:59]
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evoorhees tiberiusiv I agree [21:02]
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ThickAsThieves Erik are you all settled in now? [21:03]
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evoorhees as settled as one can be with this crazy market :) [21:03]
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ThickAsThieves yeah intense [21:04]
punkman so exante.eu is not retarded then? [21:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-] [21:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [+] [21:08]
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Lyspooner mircea_popescu, what index do your options settle to again? linky [21:11]
mircea_popescu $avg [21:11]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: 148.34 [21:11]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.705 BTC [-] [21:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.701 = 7.01 BTC [-] [21:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 0.7 = 11.9 BTC [-] [21:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.698 = 5.584 BTC [-] [21:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.697 = 8.364 BTC [-] [21:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.696 = 9.048 BTC [-] [21:14]
Lyspooner calling it "massive irrational speculation" is very easy to do in hindsight [21:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.695 = 1.39 BTC [-] [21:14]
ThickAsThieves indeed [21:14]
ThickAsThieves easy to do in foresight too [21:14]
Lyspooner good job then [21:15]
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ThickAsThieves i think a lot of us just didnt realize it would happen on that exact day [21:15]
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Lyspooner there were several people who called it a bubble at 70, say. Are those people wrong? Why should we only remember the people who got it right, like tiberiusiv? [21:16]
mircea_popescu lol wut ? [21:16]
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bVector mircea_popescu: this asshat at icbit is a market manipulator just like you said [21:20]
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mircea_popescu o ? [21:20]
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bVector he's manually clearing his futures to artificially bring the price down to what he thinks is fair price [21:21]
mircea_popescu heh [21:21]
bVector I had buy orders in and he cleared it at lowest price of the trading range [21:21]
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bVector two times in 6 minutes [21:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6903 BTC [-] [21:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-] [21:22]
pigeons i bought shares in mpoe and was able to sell for a lot more than i bought them for at ipo [21:23]
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pigeons i bought some more a few weeks ago and sold them all as well [21:23]
pigeons so thats not very accurate [21:23]
pigeons no thanks ;) [21:23]
pigeons that's not his bot, that's me [21:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.75 = 7.5 BTC [+] [21:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 115 @ 0.0033 = 0.3795 BTC [+] [21:24]
pigeons yes [21:24]
pigeons i mean i'm the one undercutting your asks [21:24]
bVector then sell for a bid [21:24]
pigeons i'm pretty sure i am [21:24]
mircea_popescu "@BryanMicon 9m If anyone wants to sell bitcoins I have a bunch of ppl calling me that want to buy" [21:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 175 @ 0.00328797 = 0.5754 BTC [-] [21:26]
mircea_popescu micon is starting his own exchange. [21:26]
ThickAsThieves could be buyiung actually [21:28]
joecool who knows? lots of idiots on gox with wallets they couldn't transfer out [21:28]
Namworld I couldn't get money to btc-e... [21:29]
Namworld oh [21:29]
Namworld that works [21:29]
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joecool i thought btce was down for abit [21:32]
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pigeons everyday but today [21:32]
joecool lol [21:32]
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mircea_popescu lol [21:33]
mircea_popescu they kept getting ddos'd fora while there [21:33]
ThickAsThieves they had some sensitive anti-ddos settings that were locking out their own customers for a while [21:34]
ThickAsThieves that got sorted a couple weeks ago [21:34]
ThickAsThieves i had to use tor a few times to access the site [21:34]
ThickAsThieves now the tor IPs are banned [21:35]
Uglux what the fuck [21:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.302 = 4.53 BTC [-] [21:36]
ThickAsThieves just wake up? [21:36]
lippoper lol [21:36]
Uglux what happened to price lol [21:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.3010101 = 4.2141 BTC [-] [21:38]
pigeons price got goxxed [21:38]
Uglux looks like 2011 just with some more zeros [21:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.3001 = 4.8016 BTC [-] [21:40]
mircea_popescu in 2011 it was hacked too [21:40]
lippoper the dream is over [21:40]
lippoper bitcoins are dead :-( [21:40]
lippoper What the hell is this? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c2u1x/operation_foolscoin/ OPERATION APRIL FOOLSCOIN Targets: MtGox, BTCE, Bitcoin24, Bitstamp Mission statement: The recent sell-off was only partially successful for several reasons: Fresh blood looking to buy Overly bullish market Only one exchange targeted April 1st occurs at the end of a bank holiday, fiat will be running low on the exchanges and it is the perfect time [21:40]
pigeons nonsense [21:41]
pgp fuck 62 in bitstamp [21:42]
lippoper 84 at btc-e [21:42]
lippoper 120 at Gox LOL [21:43]
pgp send money to slovenia- quick! [21:43]
lippoper *trLOL [21:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [-] [21:44]
mircea_popescu lippoper lol [21:44]
orkaa i'm already selling my bitstamp dollars to friends [21:44]
orkaa hehe [21:44]
jborkl_ 54 on bitstamp [21:44]
jborkl_ 110 on VTX [21:45]
pgp hard to know how to play this when gox opens... [21:45]
jborkl_ I have some cash on Gox, I am going to put a big at 15 when it opens [21:47]
jborkl_ bid [21:47]
mircea_popescu lol think it'll touch 15 ? [21:47]
jborkl_ panic dipshits with market orders [21:47]
jborkl_ maybe [21:48]
deyyo $50.05 83.04553425 $4,156.43 [21:48]
deyyo sellers on stamp [21:48]
pgp you know - I wouldn't be surprised to see it go down to 25-30 and maybe stay there for a little while. Bubble have a funny way of popping... [21:48]
Uglux wow cheep coins [21:48]
pgp pendulum swings all the way to the other side... [21:49]
KRS-1 u mean the price finding the real avg [21:49]
KRS-1 mkt. price circa Feb 2013? [21:49]
lippoper the real avg is $35 isn't it? [21:49]
pgp we have a few months of fast money noobs to reset... [21:50]
ThickAsThieves 35-50 [21:50]
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pgp < 50 seems enevitable to me... [21:50]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [21:50]
gribble 67544.3670323 [21:50]
mircea_popescu it's not under 50 atm anywhere tho [21:50]
pgp looking at my crystal ball [21:51]
kakobrekla its at 50 [21:51]
ThickAsThieves still possible taht those 15000 in gox q wanna sell not buy [21:51]
mircea_popescu that's true. [21:51]
mircea_popescu course it's also possible gox comes up with sorry hax [21:51]
mircea_popescu and fades away [21:52]
jborkl_ I wonder if it will stil be 100 bitcoins for a avalon, lol [21:52]
mircea_popescu in which case btc ---> 1 [21:52]
mircea_popescu jborkl_ lol [21:52]
ThickAsThieves gox just has to last long enough to get my cash out 1k at a time [21:52]
ThickAsThieves :/ [21:52]
mircea_popescu i guess nzhang guy has the chance of his life to show midnightmagic how ethical he is. [21:52]
pigeons structuring! [21:52]
pgp you know, I've alway been suspicious of withdrawl limits - any chance that gox might be having a liquidity crisis or sorts? [21:52]
mircea_popescu "we will sell these miners below cost nao" [21:53]
jborkl_ We have a announcment- we are pricing avalon in $ now [21:53]
mircea_popescu pgp it's been suspected. [21:53]
mircea_popescu without the smoking gun of them actually not payingh out anymore hard to prove. [21:53]
mircea_popescu and they've had periods in the past when thery've held people's 10's of k's for weeks/months just cause [21:53]
joecool well it was already easy to fake the order book [21:53]
mircea_popescu so it'll be tough toi know they've run off even 3 months after the fact. [21:53]
joecool just place lots of orders with an empty wallet [21:54]
mircea_popescu joecool afaik those don't shopw [21:54]
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jborkl_ no, they do not show up [21:54]
ThickAsThieves you'd need at least .01 btc [21:54]
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lippoper ThickAsThieves: now that Mt.Cocks doesn't support Mt.Cocks cash coupons, people are selling out and/or withdrawing their funds from there. If they missed the chance, they are trying to get verified in order to be able to withdraw [21:55]
lippoper in USD [21:55]
Uglux https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173641.0 there you go^^ [21:55]
lippoper those thousands of new accounts could be people trying to get their USD out [21:55]
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pgp definately further downside... [21:56]
lippoper Uglux, it only makes sense that they're planning on freezing all the accounts [21:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4427 @ 0.00071432 = 3.1623 BTC [+] [21:56]
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lippoper including but not limited to all the currencies and coins in your wallet [21:57]
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mircea_popescu definately further downside... <<< i dunno about this mommentum mindset. [21:58]
mircea_popescu at 240 people were "definitely more upside" now "definitely more downside" [21:59]
mircea_popescu there's nothing definite here. [21:59]
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Rlx Hello [21:59]
jborkl_ bitstamp 70 [21:59]
mircea_popescu hi [21:59]
Uglux mircea_popescu, will you tolerate a AM PT? [21:59]
jborkl_ VTX 114 [21:59]
Rlx I have a question about bitbet [21:59]
mircea_popescu Uglux what's that ? [21:59]
mircea_popescu Rlx shoot [21:59]
Rlx I'm not absolutely sure if i bet on something, where can i check that out? [22:00]
Uglux i mean ann ASICMINER passthrough on mpex [22:00]
mircea_popescu Rlx your receiving address should be on the bet [22:01]
mircea_popescu you can also search for it on the site [22:01]
mircea_popescu Uglux passthrough no. if they sign a contract they can be listed like anyone else. [22:01]
Rlx Oh ok, thank you [22:01]
mircea_popescu obviously would recognise pt held shares. [22:01]
mircea_popescu afaik everyone running pts already has accounts on mpex anyway so wouldn't be a big deal. [22:02]
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guruvan [08:13:39] mtgox must go. <<< can't tell ya how many times I've heard this today....online and at home [22:04]
mircea_popescu ya well... it's da truth [22:04]
bVector haha got a reporter talking to me about icbit [22:04]
bVector torn between discrediting bitcoin by trashing this exchange or ... [22:04]
guruvan I agree - I haven't actually used them for months now [22:04]
mircea_popescu i don't think you're discrediting bitcoin by speaking the truth. [22:05]
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mircea_popescu at any juncture and in any context. [22:05]
bVector agreed [22:05]
mircea_popescu just make sure tis the truth. [22:05]
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Namworld process the deposit/withdrawal queue please Mircea =P [22:06]
guruvan this channel is so much more calm about the drop today...lol - #bitcoin-otc is so full of stressball cases [22:06]
Namworld good riddance... [22:07]
Namworld although it's somewhat sad for them, really... [22:07]
Namworld People who lost money... [22:08]
Lyspooner is there a channel where mention of exchange rates to other currencies gets one banned [22:08]
guruvan weak hands [22:08]
Namworld life savings... divorces and suicides will probably occur... [22:08]
guruvan Namworld: you're running one of the Dice PTs on BTC-TC? but not the one on LTC-Global, correct? [22:08]
Namworld Correct [22:08]
guruvan don't invest more than you can lose peoples [22:08]
mod6 ^^^ [22:08]
Doffx Why would they stress out? [22:08]
Doffx This happens a lot in BTC [22:09]
Namworld Seriously... why do people who never touched/looked at BTC suddenly flock into it AFTER it raised a few hundred percents in value over a few weeks? [22:09]
guruvan $200/coin loss [22:09]
guruvan haha [22:09]
Doffx Guess we have all been through it a few times [22:09]
mod6 yeah [22:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.75 = 6.75 BTC [+] [22:09]
jborkl_ micrea_popescu , deposit flush [22:09]
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guruvan I let a client buy into the rally.......I really shoulda hedged her purchase....live & learn [22:09]
Namworld Thanks mircea [22:10]
guruvan but we damn sure won't let clients sell into a bottom feeding frenzy [22:10]
mircea_popescu Namworld no, we're in a cool-off period right now [22:10]
kakobrekla cool off meaning taking bids out? [22:11]
mircea_popescu mostly doing our hair. [22:11]
Namworld No, it's a joke... [22:11]
Namworld from MtGox freezing trades to "cool off" [22:11]
kakobrekla CPU got too hot [22:11]
kakobrekla from all the lag reuquests [22:11]
Namworld We're not crashing, we're "cooling off" [22:11]
mod6 bitcoin time-out [22:12]
mod6 lol [22:12]
guruvan lol kakobrekla [22:12]
mircea_popescu Namworld i just meant re mpex processing withdrawals. [22:12]
Namworld oh [22:12]
mod6 !ticker m O.USD.P500T [22:12]
assbot The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow. [22:12]
Namworld eheh,thought it was about the price crash and people losing money =P [22:13]
mod6 damnit assbot [22:13]
mircea_popescu masybe that one never traded so not on the list mod6 [22:13]
Namworld and that you were quoting gox [22:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 21551 @ 0.00328797 = 70.859 BTC [-] [22:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00328798 = 4.6032 BTC [+] [22:13]
guruvan lol assbot [22:13]
mod6 oh maybe [22:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00328799 = 6.576 BTC [+] [22:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1771 @ 0.003289 = 5.8248 BTC [+] [22:13]
guruvan daquq kinda answer was that [22:13]
deadweasel alright, sdice rally [22:13]
guruvan woohoo [22:13]
kakobrekla guruvan you been gone for a long time eh [22:13]
deadweasel let's all go bet what we have left on sdice, then erik can be stuck with our worthless btc... ;) [22:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3700 @ 0.00333328 = 12.3331 BTC [+] [22:14]
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mircea_popescu ya i wonder if high volatility correlates with high sdice betting [22:14]
InstantBTC is that why sdice going up? [22:14]
Doffx Why, tiberiusiv? [22:14]
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Doffx I am honestly curious. [22:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [+] [22:15]
ThickAsThieves because USD value goes down, BTC per bet goes up [22:15]
mod6 O.USD.P500T => S => Price: 2474007981 Volume: 1000 O.O [22:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00333328 = 6.6666 BTC [+] [22:15]
Doffx oh [22:15]
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mircea_popescu $depth p500t [22:15]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: O.USD.P500T Bids: ['1000 @ 2.39515694'] [22:15]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 24.74007981'] [22:15]
mircea_popescu sweet lol [22:15]
Doffx So you are speculating that more people will be thus more profits for april? [22:15]
Doffx err bet* [22:15]
ThickAsThieves not more people [22:16]
ThickAsThieves larger bets [22:16]
ThickAsThieves in BTC [22:16]
Doffx Ahh ok [22:16]
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guruvan kakobrekla: gone from IRC - not from bitcoin.....my house has crappy satellite internet, so IRC has been out of the question for a few months [22:18]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.35 = 7 BTC [-] [22:19]
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ThickAsThieves hehe Lucif got a chart pic of the moments after 265 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.msg1807696#msg1807696 [22:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3989 @ 0.00070902 = 2.8283 BTC [-] [22:23]
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jborkl_ and bitstamp is down.. [22:25]
pgp bitfloor sub 60 [22:25]
pgp just getting uglier and uglier [22:25]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+] [22:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [+] [22:28]
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Scrat ;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173641.0 [22:28]
gribble Mt.GOX Can't withdraw USD [22:28]
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punkman anyone have some bitstampUSD to sell? [22:28]
Scrat can anyone confirm? [22:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.34 = 7.48 BTC [+] [22:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4570 @ 0.00333328 = 15.2331 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6351 @ 0.00333333 = 21.17 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.76099 = 1.522 BTC [+] [22:30]
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bgupta Namworld: I'd guess because they hadn't heard of it before. [22:31]
pgp bitfloor 53 [22:31]
splnkr Scrat: i was able to withdraw to Dwolla just now from MtGox [22:32]
splnkr they have changed their withdrawal process though and didn't explain it well [22:32]
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splnkr now to withdraw, first you have to "add a withdraw method" and then wait a while (like overnight) for it to become an option [22:33]
splnkr i think people are mistaking the inability to withdraw without going through this process for the inability to withdraw altogether [22:33]
Scrat it might be country specific [22:33]
splnkr i'm talking about USD [22:33]
splnkr well yeah [22:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.300001 = 1.8 BTC [-] [22:34]
splnkr dwolla is only available in us [22:34]
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splnkr but bank transfer still appears to be an option as well [22:34]
splnkr but again you have to "add a withdraw method" with the bank in advance [22:34]
lippoper SPLNKR: and have to be verified right? [22:35]
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bitesak ;;ticker [22:35]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.95000, Best ask: 124.90000, Bid-ask spread: 5.95000, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 211992.07740389, 24 hour low: 106.10000, 24 hour high: 203.00000, 24 hour vwap: 158.25213 [22:35]
splnkr not sure, most likely [22:35]
lippoper Are you verified with Mt.Gox? [22:36]
lippoper splnkr: are you verified? [22:36]
splnkr why [22:36]
lippoper (3:32:21 PM) splnkr: Scrat: i was able to withdraw to Dwolla just now from MtGox [22:37]
lippoper did I misread that? [22:37]
splnkr no. [22:37]
lippoper so you're not verified? [22:37]
splnkr what is your question about mtgox [22:37]
lippoper Do you have to be verified to withdraw using Dwolla today? [22:38]
bit_nutz_ gribble, where are those prices you just quoted? i'm seeing sub 60 bitstamp, bitfloor, bit24... [22:38]
jborkl_ they have to have dwolla funds available. they easily could be out and they have to add more [22:39]
lippoper bit_nutz_: the ticker is frozen on Gox and gribble is using their frozen data. [22:39]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P089T] 2 @ 0.78 = 1.56 BTC [+] [22:39]
bit_nutz_ thank you lippoper [22:39]
bitesak The price is sub 60? [22:39]
jborkl_ dwolla is only instant if you have funds on dwolla itself [22:39]
lippoper jborkl_: b.s. it's much more likely that splnkr is trolling [22:40]
jborkl_ oh ok,nm [22:40]
lippoper he was talking about withdrawing money OUT [22:40]
lippoper and can't even say yes/no if he's verified [22:40]
jborkl_ yeah, they have to add money to mutum sigglim [22:40]
jborkl_ or whatever the name is [22:40]
bit_nutz_ bitesak: i just saw a 53 print [22:41]
Bugpowder_ 90% sure this guy is just confused [22:41]
lippoper all assets on mt.gox are frozen, not even btc transfers are actually being done. [22:41]
bit_nutz_ epic crash [22:41]
mircea_popescu lippoper how do you know that ? [22:41]
mircea_popescu i've heard reports both ways [22:41]
pgp anbody know anything about these exante guys out of malta? [22:42]
mircea_popescu pgp keiser's scamthing. [22:42]
Lyspooner mircea_popescu: keiser is connected with exante? [22:42]
pgp really [22:42]
splnkr lippoper: i'm not confused. i explained the situation 10 mins ago you didn't read everything i wrote [22:42]
mircea_popescu welllll.... he's pushing them [22:42]
pgp he must have privately sold them their stash of coins, then... [22:43]
jborkl_ I just sent a small amount of btc to gox, see what happens [22:43]
mircea_popescu @maxkeiser 10 Apr [22:43]
mircea_popescu I'll be speaking at Exante.eu hedge fund conference in Portugal on May 24th. Whatever the price of BTC before this event: double it. [22:43]
lippoper @mircea: I think the reports saying they were able to get money/btc out are all fake, trying to prevent the bottom hitting. [22:43]
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mircea_popescu lippoper ThickAsThieves was saying earlier. i don't imagine he's faking it [22:44]
bitesak bit_nutz_ epic indeed ! [22:44]
lippoper but he did it right before they actually froze everything [22:44]
mircea_popescu moreover they may have cut it off after he got it out [22:44]
mircea_popescu maxkeiser 10 Apr [22:44]
mircea_popescu I'm working with Exante.eu to broker deals getting London hedge funds into BTC. We've got more than $1 bn. lined up.#KeepMiningWeveGotOrders [22:44]
jborkl_ after 12 hours and I get 1 confirm- I will report back [22:44]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner as you can see... retard. [22:44]
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mircea_popescu who in london even heard of him ? [22:44]
bowjob ;;ticker [22:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.95000, Best ask: 124.90000, Bid-ask spread: 5.95000, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 208554.52358335, 24 hour low: 110.20003, 24 hour high: 203.00000, 24 hour vwap: 158.68466 [22:44]
mircea_popescu in a professional capacity i mean. [22:44]
bowjob huh.. [22:44]
bowjob ;;goxlag [22:44]
gribble MtGox lag is 9.530755 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0190995263083 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU). [22:44]
ThickAsThieves everything works in Gox except making orders [22:44]
Scrat ticker is wrong [22:45]
bowjob i thought he hit 55 dollatrs [22:45]
ThickAsThieves cancelling is tricky [22:45]
bowjob FUck [22:45]
bowjob I missed it! [22:45]
bowjob ME [22:45]
ThickAsThieves you have to click cancel on ONE order and just leave the window alone for a few mins [22:45]
ThickAsThieves then later reload [22:45]
ThickAsThieves and your order will be gone [22:45]
ThickAsThieves then do the next one [22:46]
lippoper last I checked it, you can only place orders at market price [22:46]
mircea_popescu a few minutesd ? [22:46]
mircea_popescu lippoper that sounds like a recipe for disaster. [22:46]
lippoper yeah [22:46]
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lippoper it seems like it'll be DDoS on resume [22:46]
lippoper just from sheer [22:46]
lippoper volume of people withdrawing [22:47]
lippoper could cause true bottom to hit :-( [22:47]
lippoper i'm afraid, very afraid of 10pm ET tonight [22:47]
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Bugpowder I am going to buy like crazy [22:47]
Scrat i am going to fap like crazy [22:47]
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lippoper I am going to cry some more [22:47]
Bugpowder never waste a good crisis [22:48]
jborkl_ bugpowder will be bust in the trollbox [22:48]
jborkl_ busy [22:48]
lippoper but, all my money just became worthless [22:48]
Bugpowder really though? [22:48]
lippoper not ALL, but all the investment money and then some I had [22:48]
lippoper like it's half now [22:48]
Bugpowder Well 1, you should have cashed out all the way up [22:49]
Bowjob_ ;;ticker [22:49]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.95000, Best ask: 124.90000, Bid-ask spread: 5.95000, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 207674.53841988, 24 hour low: 110.20003, 24 hour high: 203.00000, 24 hour vwap: 158.78790 [22:49]
Bugpowder 2) this is going to be an awesome buying opp [22:49]
lippoper at $55 [22:49]
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bit_nutz apologies for the rudimentary question: Is gribble a bot or something? [22:49]
pgp @ $32 [22:49]
Bugpowder What about bitcoin has fundamentally changed between 2 days ago and today [22:49]
Bugpowder nothing [22:50]
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lippoper no gribble is cool [22:50]
lippoper except, it's apparent market value [22:50]
bit_nutz why is he/it quoting bad info? [22:50]
lippoper he's quoting Mt.Gox info only [22:50]
lippoper Mt.Gox is frozen, so it's not bad, it's just not what all of the other exchanges are trading at. [22:51]
ThickAsThieves okay [22:51]
ThickAsThieves keep some things in mind [22:51]
Scrat ;;echo I'm not a bot [22:51]
gribble I'm not a bot [22:51]
Bowjob_ ;;ticker [22:51]
guruvan lol [22:51]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.95000, Best ask: 124.90000, Bid-ask spread: 5.95000, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 207018.49103167, 24 hour low: 110.20003, 24 hour high: 203.00000, 24 hour vwap: 158.87151 [22:51]
ThickAsThieves 1. there is a new market price [22:51]
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Bowjob_ Hey how come mt gox is 120 bucks [22:51]
Bowjob_ but.. the rest is like 60 [22:51]
Bowjob_ ? [22:51]
guruvan not trading [22:51]
ThickAsThieves buyers will be very hesitant to pay more than they need to [22:51]
Scrat Bowjob_: dude get with the times... gox froze all trads 6 hours ago [22:51]
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Bowjob_ i just slept lol [22:52]
Bowjob_ i mean woke up [22:52]
ThickAsThieves 2. Gox orderbooks will be EMPTY [22:52]
Bowjob_ is it moving to coinlab [22:52]
ThickAsThieves this means the price is free to run [22:52]
Bowjob_ ah [22:52]
ThickAsThieves in any and all directions [22:52]
ThickAsThieves mostly gox is cash right now [22:52]
pgp it will be mayhem [22:52]
Scrat Bowjob_: hopefully it is moving to a darker place [22:52]
ThickAsThieves so it could run up, but if it does, it will fall right back down [22:52]
Scrat like I don't know. a coffin? [22:52]
bit_nutz ah, thanks. no offense intended! just asking why :) [22:52]
mod6 the 200DMA @ bitcoin charts shows like 63: http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg90zig6-hourztgSzbgBza1gTMAzm1g50za2gTMAzm2g200zi1gMACDzi2gWilliamRzi3gCVolatilityzv [22:53]
mod6 so that's not far off [22:53]
mod6 Bowjob_: ^^ [22:53]
Bowjob_ I want to see single digits again [22:53]
pgp i have to try not drink too much before mt gox opens... 10 PM EST, right... [22:53]
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Bowjob_ I'll buy the shit out of them [22:53]
pgp gonna be crazy [22:53]
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guruvan mod6: yep - that's what I've been looking at the last 24hrs [22:54]
lippoper ThickAsThieves, anyone in the know here will be buying up btc in Mt.Gox for cheap, $10-$50 range... [22:54]
lippoper Anyone panicking about the bubble burst (most people) will try to cash out as soon as possible for as cheap as possible. [22:54]
lippoper Your cheap investment into btc, will be just that, and it might even go lower. [22:54]
alex12 Hello, where abouts could i look to pickup some FPGA units? [22:54]
mircea_popescu alex12 never seen anyone trying to sell. [22:54]
Scrat lippoper I think it's safe to say that everyone here is in it for the long haul [22:54]
pgp yes [22:55]
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alex12 lippoper: then how does one obtain them? [22:55]
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Bowjob_ unfortunately i dont have fiat [22:55]
ThickAsThieves if btc falls under 50, it could be really bad [22:55]
pgp seems to me that the denizens of #bitcoin-assets *are* the grownups of hitcoin world... [22:55]
ThickAsThieves thats like hitting reset on this entire run up [22:56]
ThickAsThieves i hope so [22:56]
lippoper alex12: was talking about when Gox resumes tonight. [22:56]
lippoper Scrat: Yes, but how long til we see that $100 figure again? [22:56]
InstantBTC bitstamp is down [22:56]
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ThickAsThieves we'll see 100 tonight probably, and then 50 again [22:56]
lippoper you're right [22:57]
ThickAsThieves its gonna be wild [22:57]
ThickAsThieves or not! [22:57]
ThickAsThieves :) [22:57]
lippoper it will open at 120, so first come first serve [22:57]
alex12 lippoper: ah ... [22:57]
ThickAsThieves it will not open at 120 [22:57]
alex12 lippoper: sorry, my message was ment for mircea_popescu [22:57]
lippoper only time before the asks outweight the bids and the price drops like a stone. [22:57]
ThickAsThieves it will open empty [22:57]
ThickAsThieves maybe just asks [22:57]
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bit_nutz such big price discrepancies across exchanges...why aren't these getting arb'd away? [22:58]
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lippoper first thing I'll do when it resumes is sell at $100 and put in a buy order for $25.00 [22:58]
lippoper that sounds right [22:58]
Scrat few people were setup to arb that sort of volume [22:58]
lippoper it'll probably get filled within the hour [22:58]
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lippoper thouhts? [22:59]
lippoper thoughts? [22:59]
Scrat ;;btceusd [22:59]
gribble {"ticker":{"high":199.53999,"low":52.999,"avg":126.269495,"vol":7769078.44047,"vol_cur":64617.31679,"last":70,"buy":70.001,"sell":70,"server_time":1365710367}} [22:59]
Scrat is vol total? [22:59]
Bowjob_ probably not, i mean i think theres lots of idiots [22:59]
Scrat btce did today almost 10% of their total volume [22:59]
Bowjob_ but.. come on man i have faith in my fellow man [22:59]
Bowjob_ Its 94 at virtex [23:00]
Scrat 1%, bah [23:00]
Scrat nevermind me [23:00]
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Scrat eyes tired [23:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1461 @ 0.00070902 = 1.0359 BTC [-] [23:02]
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Bugpowder ThickAsThieves: If it falls under 50 it could be really good. [23:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.65 = 3.3 BTC [+] [23:06]
Bowjob_ http://bitbet.us/bet/403/bitcoin-at-420-on-or-before-4-20/ [23:07]
Bowjob_ FREE BTC for you guys [23:07]
ThickAsThieves Bug, I agree [23:07]
ThickAsThieves only because [23:07]
pgp just noticed that BFL's preorder prices for "net gen" products jumped from $20 GH/s to $50 GH/s... Dunno when that happened, but economic of mining are changing fast... [23:07]
ThickAsThieves i dont care about price now [23:07]
ThickAsThieves i'm cashed out [23:07]
ThickAsThieves waiting for lowest price [23:07]
ThickAsThieves all mt btc is what i have in stocks [23:08]
lippoper lucky [23:08]
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ThickAsThieves honestly, my buying will be pretty timid [23:09]
Bowjob_ on ht ebright side. the next bullrun will be [23:09]
ThickAsThieves i cashed out at a healthy profit [23:09]
Bowjob_ quad digits [23:09]
ThickAsThieves i'm not gonna go pay some midmarket price [23:09]
ThickAsThieves and compromise that [23:09]
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Bowjob_ I'm still wondering if we;re emperor with no clothes [23:10]
pgp just sit on your hands folks... [23:10]
pgp be patient [23:10]
Bowjob_ I mean, I've won the game, money in, profit out [23:10]
pgp can't be [23:11]
pgp quoting from gox? [23:11]
Bugpowder it doesn't have funds [23:11]
Scrat yeah it's gox last [23:11]
Bowjob_ bug, did u get some puts [23:11]
Bugpowder I did [23:11]
Bugpowder but the trade was revoked [23:12]
taub tiberiusiv> btce did 50% of mtgox volume today [23:12]
taub and no lag! [23:12]
ThickAsThieves O.o [23:12]
Scrat russian tech [23:12]
Bugpowder your buy and the bot's cancelling hit in the same second. the bot was a few miliseconds earlier. the trade engine correctly identified the trade as going to book. the server you were talking to however did not. [14:09] it's ungodly that it has needed almost two hours to come to sense, there's been a host of syncing issues under today;s load. [23:12]
ThickAsThieves ? [23:13]
ThickAsThieves ? [23:13]
ThickAsThieves Did you get a receipt? [23:13]
taub i think mp covering his ass [23:13]
taub :p [23:13]
Bugpowder I did [23:13]
ThickAsThieves sooooo [23:13]
ThickAsThieves thats proof of purchase right? [23:13]
Bugpowder have reciepts for the options on my inventory for the last hour and a half [23:13]
Bugpowder then they disappeared [23:14]
ThickAsThieves ?! [23:14]
ThickAsThieves wait [23:14]
ThickAsThieves receipts can be revoked? [23:14]
ThickAsThieves i thought they were signed text info [23:14]
Bugpowder So be aware, a receipt is not always reliable. [23:14]
ThickAsThieves ... [23:14]
Bugpowder there could be syncronization issues in times of heavy load [23:14]
ThickAsThieves but thats not your problem [23:15]
ThickAsThieves server should not issue receipt [23:15]
ThickAsThieves until order is confirmed [23:15]
ThickAsThieves makes no sense [23:15]
taub $avg [23:15]
mpexbot taub: 142.71 [23:16]
taub uh oh [23:16]
Bowjob_ Bakewell might pay his dues now [23:16]
Bowjob_ lol [23:16]
Bowjob_ just say "I got hackeD" [23:16]
Bowjob_ heres ur coins [23:16]
ThickAsThieves this is also conveniently when price was dropping this morning, bot was off, yet bitcoincharts was working fine, then bot comes back at 1000000% higher prices [23:16]
ThickAsThieves thats a pretty fancy bot... [23:17]
taub well that is his business [23:17]
taub but [23:17]
taub undoing orders is not ok [23:17]
Bugpowder what can yah do? I've made plenty of coins off the bot. Maybe its true. The bot did go down shortly after I bot 1000 puts. [23:17]
pgp orders get busted irl all the time [23:17]
jcpham http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/as-big-investors-emerge-bitcoin-gets-ready-for-its-close-up/ [23:17]
ThickAsThieves your buys are what triggered me to shop though [23:18]
ThickAsThieves i loaded prices after [23:18]
ThickAsThieves and when i hit buy i was too late [23:18]
Bugpowder Whether that happened before or after the actual bot cancellation, I have no way of knowing [23:18]
ThickAsThieves i still dont see how that matters if you got a receipt [23:18]
jcpham the winklevii own 1% of bitcoin [23:18]
jcpham according to ny times [23:18]
Bugpowder Was the bot going offline a response to the purchase coming across the ticker here? Or was it just a coincidence? [23:19]
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MJR_ damn winklevii [23:19]
pgp guys - equity, option and futures exchanges bust trades for all sorts of reasons everyday all day long... [23:19]
MJR_ always showing up late to the party [23:19]
ThickAsThieves well if I play the role of Occam in a Tinfoil Hat, [23:19]
ThickAsThieves easy answer is mp shut off bot manually to protect puts [23:20]
ThickAsThieves adjusted pricing to be to his benefit [23:20]
ThickAsThieves then resumed [23:20]
mircea_popescu yes yes, it can happen that a trade's screwy. [23:20]
mircea_popescu it hasn't been happening since the january upgrade at all, but then again [23:20]
mircea_popescu Apr 11 12:27:12 okay, everyone get your trades through if you were contemplating anything [23:21]
mircea_popescu Apr 11 12:27:16 this promises to be a bumpy weekend. [23:21]
pgp we deal with occasional race condition-type issues from time to time - happens [23:21]
ThickAsThieves but surely your system is gated to only give receipts as proof of confirmed purchase, no? [23:22]
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ThickAsThieves i assume thats why they exist [23:22]
pgp unless, of course, you prefer a single threaded, single server solution for your exchange... [23:22]
pgp like gox [23:22]
ThickAsThieves if not, i dont understand what receipts are for [23:23]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves ideally. [23:23]
mircea_popescu it;'s like the papers you get from the courthouse. [23:23]
mircea_popescu somwetimes they will have your name wrong [23:24]
Scrat pgp: which should still be enough, considering modern cpus can do billions of calculations per second [23:24]
mircea_popescu sometimes the police batters down your door and you were the wrong guy. [23:24]
Bowjob_ The Black wednesday [23:24]
mircea_popescu material errors happen. my job of course is to keep it to a minimum. [23:24]
Scrat even if you add many orders of magnitude of abstraction [23:24]
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Bowjob_ http://www.businessinsider.com/the-winklevoss-twins-bitcoins-2013-4 [23:24]
pgp yes, but no redundancy and failover... [23:24]
ThickAsThieves mp, i dont disagree that things happen, [23:25]
ThickAsThieves but in your examples [23:25]
pgp can't run an exchange that way - you can't have single points of failure... [23:25]
ThickAsThieves the offender loses too [23:25]
Scrat pgp: a true multimaster system requires two phased commits [23:25]
Bugpowder It's a shame that the bot does not have a timestamped receipt to compare against mine. [23:25]
Scrat master/slave can still be done with single threaded setup [23:25]
ThickAsThieves wouldnt matter of being the same second causes glitches [23:25]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well the bot got in first. [23:26]
ThickAsThieves so receipts are issued before orders are completed? [23:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.34495 = 1.7248 BTC [-] [23:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.34498 = 6.8996 BTC [+] [23:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34499989 BTC [+] [23:27]
mircea_popescu receipt of trade just says trade was received. [23:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.345 = 3.45 BTC [+] [23:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.35 = 10.5 BTC [+] [23:27]
mircea_popescu this is factual, it was. [23:27]
pgp scrat: yes in principal [23:27]
mircea_popescu the STAT results will query a db, which will be in a state. [23:27]
Doffx I find it somewhat ironic that they store their bitcoin backups at banks [23:27]
mircea_popescu it is possible (if unlikely) these days for that state to be messy [23:27]
pgp but not all systems have fully integrated STP [23:27]
jborkl_ mp, sorry to do this again, deposit [23:27]
ThickAsThieves but mp, [23:27]
ThickAsThieves why not gate the receipt to happen AFTER [23:27]
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mircea_popescu mpex is stateless. there [23:28]
ThickAsThieves its not like we need our recipts 1 second sooner [23:28]
mircea_popescu 's no way to know what happened to the guy's trade when you issue the receipt. [23:28]
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mircea_popescu receipt just says "we received your order". this isn't really the problem. [23:28]
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ThickAsThieves so its not a receipt [23:28]
mircea_popescu the problem is the webserver he was directed to for the stat was inconsistent weith the trade engine master [23:28]
ThickAsThieves its a purchase order [23:28]
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mircea_popescu and this inconsistency lasted too long [23:28]
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mircea_popescu the reason it lasted too long is that the server itself was being isolated from syncing through being ddosed to as much as it could take [23:29]
mircea_popescu by the load balancing solution [23:29]
ThickAsThieves i assume he was at least refunded [23:29]
Bugpowder THe initial purchase was refunded [23:30]
Bugpowder and an order appeared [23:30]
ThickAsThieves what does that mean, an order appeared [23:30]
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ThickAsThieves mp, do you have a log of when the bot vwap lowered from 227.18 yesterday? [23:31]
Bugpowder O.USD.P122T : B 1`000 @ 0.07047095BTC (order #8912799) [23:31]
Bugpowder That appeared [23:31]
Bugpowder However my original order number was lower [23:32]
Bugpowder You see, following my 122 order, I placed this order, which did not get filled [23:33]
Bugpowder O.USD.P125T : B 1`000 @ 0.08050000BTC (order #8901197) [23:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2159 @ 0.00296405 = 6.3994 BTC [-] [23:34]
ThickAsThieves or did it? [23:34]
ThickAsThieves hehe [23:34]
Bugpowder No bot was down by then [23:34]
jurov ThickAsThieves, so you were affected too? [23:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.3151 = 2.8359 BTC [-] [23:35]
ThickAsThieves by what [23:35]
ThickAsThieves jurov you know about my issue already [23:35]
ThickAsThieves i did try to buy puts at the same time as Bug, but I was too late [23:35]
ThickAsThieves i have no issue with that [23:35]
jurov yes. but am tired and the scrollback looks hairy [23:35]
ThickAsThieves other than it being suspicious [23:35]
ThickAsThieves that the bot disappeared for so lonbg [23:36]
ThickAsThieves and came back with outrageously high prices [23:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 218 @ 0.0033 = 0.7194 BTC [+] [23:36]
jurov so these trades got rofled back? [23:36]
Bugpowder Yes looks like it now [23:36]
Bugpowder I didn't notice this order number discrepancy before [23:37]
Bugpowder when I discussed it privately [23:37]
jurov hmm, coinbr did complain about more inconsistencies than necessary, but looked quite benign [23:37]
Bugpowder After the trade rollback, a NEW order appeared with a # that was higher than an order I placed AFTER my fill at 122 [23:38]
jurov O.o [23:38]
MJR_ nice, looks like s.dice is rallying [23:39]
ThickAsThieves now i have to go back and audit all my fucking excercises [23:39]
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jurov anyway, will do thorough check later. but it would help me if anyone who did anything in coinbr during that time [23:40]
jurov checked their history [23:40]
mircea_popescu can't hurt anything. [23:40]
ThickAsThieves can't help either most likely [23:41]
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ThickAsThieves you aren't exactly known for being pliable [23:41]
jurov it will help me not to have a mess in books eventually [23:41]
jurov ThickAsThieves, what? [23:41]
ThickAsThieves not you jurov [23:41]
ThickAsThieves i just mean that we make plenty of reasonable requests and suggestions that end up being painted as absurd of they conflict with mp's original decision [23:42]
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ThickAsThieves like not issuing receipts until orders are completed [23:42]
guruvan ++ ThickAsThieves ;) not pliable....but consistent. [23:42]
ThickAsThieves indeed [23:42]
ThickAsThieves thats why i know auditing would be pointless [23:43]
mircea_popescu ha! [23:43]
jurov not going into that discussion now... see ya later [23:43]
guruvan seems everyone's trade engines were hosed yesterday..I know I should audit my trades [23:43]
mircea_popescu i'd really love to come up with a better system [23:44]
mircea_popescu for one thing the 100msecond lag is getting on my motherfucking nerves. [23:44]
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mircea_popescu i get that it's way lower than mtgox ever manages, but still. ridoinculous. [23:45]
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ThickAsThieves i have real trouble understanding why a receipt cant be the last thing that happens in the chain [23:45]
mircea_popescu cause mpex doesn't keep session. [23:45]
bVector mircea_popescu: you're closer than I am, how much would it take to get you to kick icbit admin in the nuts? [23:45]
mircea_popescu a lot lol. im not in that biz [23:46]
bVector everyone has their price right? ;) [23:46]
* guruvan would do it cheap [23:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 42 @ 0.2 = 8.4 BTC [+] [23:47]
guruvan I am so glad I closed out my positions there last week [23:47]
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jcpham i signed up for coinsetter and sent a witty message [23:47]
jcpham ceo responded [23:48]
jcpham he says they are legit [23:48]
pigeons what's coinsetter? [23:48]
jcpham his name is jaron iirc [23:48]
guruvan I've had a chat with him in email - everyone sez that [23:48]
guruvan ya that's it [23:48]
pigeons oh well if the ceo says he's legit, its gotta be true [23:48]
jcpham it's th new bitcoinica pigeons [23:48]
jcpham rite [23:48]
guruvan coinsetter = leveraged trading of some sort [23:48]
jcpham if you think things are wild now...just wait [23:49]
pigeons chinese relic hunters be ready [23:49]
guruvan he said he's on the forums & recognized my name - but I didn't recognize his [23:49]
guruvan and he didn't specifiy a nick [23:49]
pigeons he meant something awful [23:49]
jcpham hurrr [23:49]
guruvan their site was broke when I went there at first...tweeted about that, and he responded to the tweet & sent mail [23:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000688 = 0.0688 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000688 = 0.0688 BTC [+] [23:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [+] [23:50]
jcpham ic [23:50]
mircea_popescu that's nice. [23:50]
jcpham mircea_popescu's twitter is off the charts lulzbot [23:50]
jcpham *lulzboat [23:50]
mircea_popescu lol [23:50]
jcpham gonna have to follow him for sure [23:50]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3031 BTC [-] [23:51]
MJR_ yeah [23:51]
MJR_ love the tweets [23:51]
MJR_ i've had lunch with jaron [23:51]
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guruvan ya orly [23:51]
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MJR_ yep [23:51]
MJR_ he's in nyc [23:51]
guruvan what's he like? [23:51]
jcpham does he wear baseball caps? [23:51]
MJR_ erik kinda introduced us [23:51]
MJR_ he does not [23:51]
MJR_ wear baseball caps [23:51]
MJR_ from what i saw [23:51]
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MJR_ but i haven't watched him at all times [23:51]
MJR_ anyway, nice guy [23:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.303 BTC [-] [23:52]
MJR_ cool people behind his project [23:52]
MJR_ haven't seen much of his product [23:52]
MJR_ but he is working on it as far as i know [23:52]
guruvan meet any of the team? [23:52]
MJR_ yeahg [23:52]
MJR_ CTO [23:52]
MJR_ nice guy [23:52]
MJR_ we had lunch a few times [23:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.30199999 = 6.644 BTC [-] [23:53]
jcpham i wonder if we can get these guys to do shoeonhead.jpg [23:53]
guruvan I'm curious about his & the cto's backgrounds [23:53]
jcpham to prove something... [23:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 270 @ 0.000689 = 0.186 BTC [+] [23:54]
guruvan he seemed to think I'd be more interested in the site's security, rather than the principal's backgrounds [23:55]
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MJR_ eh [23:55]
MJR_ what's tux's background? [23:56]
guruvan what's the CTOs name MJR_? [23:56]
MJR_ marshall [23:56]
jcpham yeah btcst.com was hella secure html5 wonder [23:56]
jcpham ... [23:56]
guruvan good question. [23:56]
dub MJR_: table/card games, painting little plastic soldiers [23:56]
jcpham glbse was pretty secure but slows as balls [23:56]
MJR_ he actually introduced me to a nice lawyer [23:56]
MJR_ who was very helpful [23:56]
guruvan exactly jcpham [23:56]
jcpham making a secure site isn't that hard [23:57]
MJR_ they very much have a startup mentality [23:57]
MJR_ which is cool in some ways [23:57]
jcpham i've seen it and bought into it [23:57]
jcpham and then poof [23:57]
guruvan that's good in a lot of ways [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4730 @ 0.00071589 = 3.3862 BTC [+] [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3888 @ 0.00071642 = 2.7854 BTC [+] [23:57]
MJR_ well...depends [23:57]
MJR_ i personally, and this is just my opinion, hate the term "burn rate" [23:57]
MJR_ i plan on making money from day 1 [23:57]
guruvan lol [23:57]
guruvan VC [23:57]
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MJR_ BUT, there are some times when you need to do that [23:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.0034 = 0.17 BTC [+] [23:58]
guruvan I've done a buncha dotcom stuff and we always talked about that [23:58]
MJR_ i just think that the silicon valley mindset of "let them explore and figure it out" is not a great strategy for most scenarios [23:58]
MJR_ in some ways, VC's do a disservice by telling people that they are great, when they haven't done anything yet [23:58]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+] [23:59]
MJR_ BUT...i'm not saying that applies to coinsetter [23:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.12002 = 1.0802 BTC [-] [23:59]
guruvan no - it's not, but it's great for the "thow a buncha shit on the wall and see what sticks" venture capitalist mentality [23:59]
MJR_ just making a point about startup mentality [23:59]
MJR_ i also don't like that mentality, i like good solid plans that make sense [23:59]
guruvan no but wee'll see plenty silicon valley startups that it does apply to in the bitcoin biz [23:59]
MJR_ entrepreneurship should be bringing together the pieces to create something more valuable than the sum of its parts [23:59]
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