Forum logs for 03 Nov 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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jurov tried to research venetfx's FSA registration #194835 [00:34]
jurov it belongs to some completely different entity with defunct website, dates of registration 2001 and 2003 [00:34]
jurov 17 Feb 2004 Final Dissolution Notice.. so venetfx's FSA number is completely fake, too [00:36]
mircea_popescu seems that way [00:36]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [09:36]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com [09:36]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Oct 16 15:58:37 2012 [09:36]
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EskimoBob LOL @ "Facts don't match my ideology so FACTS MUST BE WRONG!!!" <-- /. comment [11:49]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/towards-a-unified-exchange-protocol/ << RFC. [12:34]
PsychoticBoy ;;seen DeadTerra [12:34]
gribble DeadTerra was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: but I agree there are to much drama and BS [12:34]
PsychoticBoy thought so [12:34]
mircea_popescu heh [12:34]
PsychoticBoy should have kicked some guys in the nuts when I had the chance in London [12:35]
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dub thats where netardio was building the future of bitcoin right? [12:43]
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mircea_popescu yes. [12:45]
mircea_popescu and telling people about how mpex is a scam. [12:45]
Chaang-Noi interscamdo... [12:45]
Chaang-Noi or is it interscamgo ? [12:45]
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Chaang-Noi with nefario it is really hard to dell the differance between criminal and just being so fucking retarded... [12:46]
Chaang-Noi it is hard for me to think he acidently so much [12:46]
mircea_popescu indeed. [12:46]
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Chaang-Noi same with intersango and their bitcoinica stuff [12:47]
dub luckily unlike criminally insane, criminally retarded is not a valid defense afaik [12:47]
Chaang-Noi yeah we should just go with criminally retarded until we get more evidance [12:48]
PsychoticBoy Indeed [12:49]
mircea_popescu dub sure it is [12:50]
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dub orly? [13:05]
dub you have negligence and nuisance as offenses [13:05]
dub which can be applied to 'act of stupidity causes loss' [13:06]
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mircea_popescu ya but mental retardation is like a positive defense [13:38]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: youawake? [15:00]
mircea_popescu yea [15:00]
thestringpuller who was saying mpex was a scam? [15:00]
thestringpuller oh nefario [15:03]
thestringpuller sorry, my logs are screwed up [15:03]
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mircea_popescu :p [15:07]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: your existence is making me money [15:12]
mircea_popescu haha cool [15:13]
thestringpuller not a lot of money [15:14]
thestringpuller but it's still moolah [15:14]
FabianB_ mircea_popescu: why are you standardising now that you start using json with one returning json and all other non-json? [15:18]
mircea_popescu FabianB_ come again ? [15:19]
FabianB_ 11:34 < mircea_popescu> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/towards-a-unified-exchange-protocol/ << RFC. [15:20]
mircea_popescu well yes, since it was being discussed on the forum i wrote up a proposal [15:20]
FabianB_ STATJSON returns data as json [15:20]
mircea_popescu otherwise this exists as internal stuff for about a year now [15:20]
FabianB_ yeah, am fine with this being mpex protocol [15:21]
FabianB_ just doesn't seem polished enough to qualify as standard yet [15:21]
mircea_popescu well no, it's a proposal [15:21]
mircea_popescu people should comment [15:21]
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FabianB_ data as json in both directions would seem more consistent [15:23]
FabianB_ even if with so few commands and payload it's easy to parse |foo|bar|baz [15:24]
mircea_popescu many of those commands are being issued by hand [15:24]
mircea_popescu json would seem like undue burden [15:24]
thestringpuller xml is an undue burden [15:26]
thestringpuller that the corporate world put on us [15:26]
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FabianB_ well, yeah, by hand it's nicer than json [15:41]
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mircea_popescu FabianB_ moreover, the spec is not restrictive. some exchange might decide to implement STATXML too [15:48]
mircea_popescu that's not forbidden. but it would be weird to require exchanges to accept both json and xml imput [15:49]
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thestringpuller xml should be forbidden in general [15:53]
FabianB_ yeah, who wants xml ;) [15:54]
thestringpuller corporations lol [15:54]
FabianB_ wondering if there are papers on designing protocols for both computers/humans [15:56]
mircea_popescu anyway, in general it's a minimum standards approach [15:56]
FabianB_ earlier protocols like smtp were(are) very easy to use for humans too [15:56]
mircea_popescu "have to have at least this much" [15:56]
FabianB_ generally a nice aproach mircea_popescu [15:57]
mircea_popescu yeah. anyway the only one with a prayer given that there's no standards body and compliance is voluntary [15:57]
mircea_popescu (maybe community-driven) [15:57]
FabianB_ standards bodies are usually too slow [15:58]
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mircea_popescu true [16:01]
mircea_popescu but the big problem is usually the lobby stuff [16:02]
mircea_popescu there rg you got fans https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121027.msg1314499#msg1314499 [16:02]
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kakobrekla zomg teh interface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2devvvyrg&feature=youtu.be [17:24]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: [19:44]
thestringpuller the man who created mpex [19:44]
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jurov so, did kakobrekla at least to try to shed some light on the accusations somehow? [20:49]
jurov or just having lulz with his boss? [20:49]
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mircea_popescu not afaik. [20:53]
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thestrin1puller calls are getting sold? [21:06]
jurov what do you mean? [21:11]
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Diablo-D3 http://codinginmysleep.com/bitcoinstore-com-launch-cheaper-in-bitcoin/ [21:54]
Diablo-D3 ohrly [21:55]
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smickles_ < jurov> so, did kakobrekla at least to try to shed some light on the accusations somehow? <<< whatnow? [22:24]
jurov i'm just interested [22:36]
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smickles_ jurov: what accusations? [22:50]
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jurov smickles_: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114821.msg1313361#msg1313361 [22:51]
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jurov and I put myself the FSA Registration# from bit4x site into FSA form and it was assigned to some other company that went defunct in 2004 [22:53]
smickles huh [22:55]
jurov [00:14:01] i showed that posts to my superior, teh boss, he was rolling of the floor. [22:55]
jurov that was the reply [22:55]
smickles rolling of the floor? [22:55]
jurov dunno, maybe they rolled 'em together with carpet and hauled away, ya know [22:55]
smickles heh [22:56]
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mircea_popescu this has all the makings of adventure [23:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9020 @ 0.00048886 = 4.4095 BTC [-] [23:03]
jurov i wasn't going to invest there anyway [23:04]
jurov since he wasn't able to clearly explain me here how can one trade currencies with pure BTC balance and without need for any hedging, maybe you remember [23:04]
mircea_popescu myeah [23:04]
jurov but i did not suspect such wholesale scam, then [23:04]
mircea_popescu myeah. kakobrekla you'll have to make an answer to that thing, it's ruining you. [23:05]
mircea_popescu ;;rate patrickharnett -10 Scammer of the Peter Lambert school. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915 [23:08]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user patrickharnett has been recorded. [23:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4380 @ 0.00048886 = 2.1412 BTC [-] [23:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12935 @ 0.00048764 = 6.3076 BTC [-] [23:28]
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smickles fwiw, :o [23:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15965 @ 0.00048764 = 7.7852 BTC [-] [23:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7435 @ 0.00048759 = 3.6252 BTC [-] [23:53]
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