Forum logs for 02 Nov 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
BingoBoingo ty pete_dushenski [00:09]
deedbot- [Qntra] 000webhost Penetrated: 13 Million Plaintext Passwords Compromised - [00:10]
mircea_popescu reading i realise nothing in the past decade makes me as happy as biel's fizzling. [00:11]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: What Would You Do If Your Fiance Gave You a Ring That Wasn't Good Enough? ... ( ) [00:11]
v_diddy << take things, do not wait for them to be given. [00:11]
assbot Logged on 01-11-2015 22:28:58; ascii_field: << lulzy, i'd easily handle this but nobody asked me [00:11]
mircea_popescu stupid bitch won't put out ? thinks the world is the set of seventh heaven ? [00:11]
mircea_popescu fuck her, she gets to be angelina jolie v2.0 [00:11]
phf BingoBoingo: whatever happened to slimgur? [00:12]
BingoBoingo deedbot-: [00:17]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [00:17]
assbot ... ( ) [00:17]
BingoBoingo phf: Domain change, booted from hosting because Lardbarges uploaded CP and reported them to their then host [00:18]
v_diddy lol [00:19]
* v_diddy is now known as ben_vulpes [00:19]
ben_vulpes that's entirely what you get for working with people outside of your wot. [00:19]
ben_vulpes unrelatedly: [00:19]
assbot Online Shared Accounts | Grindwork Corporation ... ( ) [00:19]
mircea_popescu lmao [00:19]
ben_vulpes wronggggg link [00:20]
ben_vulpes [00:20]
assbot Grindwork Thinking Server | Grindwork Corporation ... ( ) [00:20]
phf oh, i was wondering what was up with all those underage pictures popping up. seemed like an personal army attack [00:20]
mircea_popescu imgur obviously doesn't get kicked off because "cp" because "we have no control what the internet does". but slimgur does get booted. [00:20]
ben_vulpes > requires flash [00:20]
mircea_popescu please more net neutrality kthx [00:20]
deedbot- [cascadian hacker] Links 2015-10-31 Sat: self-driving cars, short fiction, Nigerian lolz, ship photos, Volkswagen's embroilment in ship engine number fudging, planes landing on cargo ships, the Palestinian Authority and more! - [00:22]
mircea_popescu this title is big enough! [00:23]
* mircea_popescu goes to read all sopping wet [00:23]
mircea_popescu 404 Not Found [00:23]
mircea_popescu nginx/1.7.6 [00:23]
mircea_popescu now i feel like a girl foreals. [00:23]
punkman perhaps bot should skip the title [00:23]
ben_vulpes tonight we fuzz deedbot-! [00:24]
ben_vulpes lol mp cannae finda de cocka [00:25]
mircea_popescu lol footnote 3 ftw. [00:25]
mircea_popescu i find references to cannae very hurtful and unnecessary for my roman republican heritage. [00:26]
mircea_popescu TOO MANY GOOD PEOPLE DIED THERE [00:26]
mircea_popescu ahaha that pic was in teh logs was it. great pic. [00:27]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: it's cited appropriately even [00:27]
ben_vulpes albeit in a footnote [00:28]
mircea_popescu o hey [00:28]
ben_vulpes wait biel is jolie 2.0? i thought jolie remained relevant far longer for some reason. [00:29]
mircea_popescu she did ? [00:29]
mircea_popescu she's moved into a zsa zsa gabor phase before being 35. clinging to headlines with stuipid shit like "i took the fat out of my tits and replaced it with oil to support BP and Shell!" [00:30]
trinque ben_vulpes | tonight we fuzz deedbot-! << escuse [00:30]
phf he last and only good role was in the hackers, but that carried her pretty far [00:31]
ben_vulpes i don't actually know anything about pop culture, my parents only let me watch Oregon Public Broadcasting. [00:31]
ben_vulpes by the time i might have given a shit, i was already interested in other things. [00:31]
BingoBoingo Oh, Jolie I think finally completely had herself surgically desexed. [00:34]
phf our moscow neighbor was a burned kgb spy, who upon his return from washington in the late 80s brought with him 5 boxes of tapes, recorded from u.s. cable television, commercials and all. i remember watching the whole thing, but i wouldn't be able to recall any specifics. i'm pretty sure it had the entire american ninja there, for example [00:35]
mircea_popescu phf i really can't watch anything with/about computers [00:36]
mircea_popescu i'd rather watch namibian television reports about wall street [00:36]
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phf mircea_popescu: i think there are two movies about computers that are kind of worth watching, because they manage to broadly capture the period, the hackers and war games. [00:38]
mircea_popescu there's also a bunch of chicks that are kinda worth fucking that will be old before i get around to them [00:39]
mircea_popescu i'd rather rewatch lorna than look at "hollywood does floppy disks" [00:39]
mircea_popescu (for the people who weren't hipsters in the 60s, russ meyer is this guy doing footage of chicks with absurdly big natural tits. nothing happens.) [00:40]
phf give me that old time religion [00:40]
mircea_popescu i find the pastoral images soothing [00:41]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes re your interests in low brow apple "status goods" etc, see the excellent tlp [00:43]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Luxury Branding The Future Leaders Of The World ... ( ) [00:43]
ben_vulpes my WHAT?! [00:46]
mircea_popescu hey, you're discussing it! [00:47]
mircea_popescu "What is actually going on is that Apple is attempting to signal to the derps who willingly buy their fashion goods that actual rich people also buy those things." etc [00:48]
mircea_popescu yes actual rich people also want to buy these things. to wear at the hackathon, to play the role of the billionaire who hangs around and chats with the derps, without having to actually spend any time on like... you know, irc. [00:48]
ben_vulpes i'm not interested in it, it's interested in me. [00:48]
mircea_popescu same differential. [00:48]
ben_vulpes ah hm. [00:49]
mircea_popescu anyway im just sayin', he speaks as to the theme, and well. [00:49]
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mircea_popescu "Not even the girls will condescend to it, and if you can't sell fashion goods to the girls, you can't sell the goods." << fun fact, ties are a purchase mostly controlled by women. JUST LIKE HIGH HEELS, [00:50]
mircea_popescu i might be the only male alive dictating high heel usage as to type and so forth. [00:51]
mircea_popescu this patriarchy embedded in society by older womenz. [00:51]
ben_vulpes who uh [00:52]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes but anyway, your intuition is broadly correct, the one thing that can make your shop flourish / ensure its survival is heavy duty investment in IP. the real thing, the sort of IP that can't be intellectually-protected. [00:53]
ben_vulpes doesn't buy their own ties? [00:53]
mircea_popescu nobody buys their own ties. nobody even WEARS ties without permission. "honey does this go ?" [00:53]
ben_vulpes "oui, ça marche" [00:53]
ben_vulpes who are these people [00:54]
ben_vulpes men i mean [00:54]
mircea_popescu give someone a tie see if they wear it. [00:54]
ben_vulpes with suits and ties and didn't do the matching originally and daily selection selection on an ongoing basis? [00:54]
mircea_popescu (hint : if they do they're gay and think you'd make a great gf) [00:54]
ben_vulpes well yes. [00:55]
ben_vulpes but to return to an earlier fork, what intuition are you talking about? something in that post? [00:55]
mircea_popescu wellyesley [00:55]
ben_vulpes oh oh oh [00:55]
ben_vulpes "institutional quality memory" [00:55]
mircea_popescu myeah. [00:55]
ben_vulpes quite. [00:56]
mircea_popescu it is ip, right and proper. [00:56]
BingoBoingo I buy my own ties. It's why half of them are bolo ties. [00:57]
ben_vulpes tis a vaporous and difficult to grasp sort of thing. embedded in the people, codified where possible. [00:57]
mod6 ive never been given a tie. i buy all of mine. [00:57]
ben_vulpes lol that kid in the patek ad with the safety vest [00:57]
ben_vulpes rip out all the branding and there's your class giveaway. [00:58]
ben_vulpes "honey, put a vest on the kid" only ever has 2 answers [00:58]
ben_vulpes "okay dear" and "what did he forget how to swim?" [00:58]
BingoBoingo Phun Phact, Putin is Patek's greatest brand ambassador [00:59]
mircea_popescu another fun fact : i never met anyone who actually wore those things [00:59]
mircea_popescu people who actually like/can afford those things have all sorts of obscure preferences, people who don't buy rollexes on credit. [00:59]
mircea_popescu pp is like a sort of tgi fridays or w/e that thing it's called, a fastrestaurantfood. [01:00]
ben_vulpes Fast Casual [01:00]
mod6 that place punches me in the colon [01:01]
mircea_popescu "That's the history of America: come here for the freedom; stay for the cash; and if things get hairy say only God can judge you." [01:01]
BingoBoingo When I worked at a watch stand I learned all sorts of lower end brand preferences. White trash likes fossil. More monied white trash like Tag Heuer, or Invicta if they got the collecting compulsion [01:01]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: did you actually read the "i spent thousands learning to be a wealth manager" piece? she touches on signaling. [01:02]
mircea_popescu who ? [01:02]
mircea_popescu an random dumb broad, i recall. no i didn't read it. [01:02]
BingoBoingo Black girls like Guess, Black guys like Nike or esoteric bling brands from more obscure shops. People buy Seiko almost exclusively as gifts... [01:03]
ben_vulpes academitard i belive is the local lingo [01:03]
ben_vulpes "you, the viewer, become the Dad, with the aspirational images laid out for you: a beautiful and proper wife with culture and delicacy, taking care of your perfect daughter, while you're in the shower scrubbing the scent of concubinage off you. " wahahaha [01:04]
mircea_popescu if only. [01:05]
mircea_popescu i am of the firm belief that an adult male with wealth and a monofambly is a liability to both the wife and the children. [01:05]
mircea_popescu the mistress is a very important surogate for the functional (ie, 3-4 wives) arrangement. [01:05]
mircea_popescu next thing you know wife gets too confident of her position and the kid's covered in helmets. [01:06]
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ben_vulpes not terrifically uncommon knowledge in "the coven". i think "sex at dawn" is their tract on the topic. [01:07]
mircea_popescu what's the coven ? [01:07]
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ben_vulpes a smallish group of girls around here. not an official name or thing by any stretch of the imagination. [01:08]
mircea_popescu ah [01:08]
ben_vulpes affectionate appellation [01:09]
ben_vulpes heh okay i'll bite is 9 1/2 weeks any good? [01:12]
mircea_popescu nmah it's miserable. [01:12]
mircea_popescu i watched it because of tlp's idiotic fixation on basinger and an insistence on "white heels". a) she wears no heels at all ; b) she is as hot as my doorman. [01:13]
mircea_popescu worst fucking film ever, the only thing it informs us is, just how fucktardedly primitive our parents were, sexually speaking. [01:13]
mircea_popescu "o really pops, she like, kisses your wee wee that once, and the skin was even retracted ? you go tiger!" [01:14]
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mod6 haha [01:17]
BingoBoingo Seriously, at least "Three Headed Shark Attack" has tits [01:17]
ben_vulpes that place punches me in the colon << i lol'd [01:17]
mod6 place makes me seriously ill. [01:20]
mircea_popescu <<< ahahaha epic. [01:21]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Pedophilia Is Normal, Because Otherwise It's Abnormal ... ( ) [01:21]
mircea_popescu so the truth of the matter is that yes, sexual interest in early teen females is normal and common, and perhaps not ~necessarily~ harmful to the females in question [in those conditions where communication is sparse and pop density is under 1 per sq mile - which pointedly DOES NOT mean NYC or akron, ohio!], whereas sexual interest in bosy the same age is NOT common, or normal. but pathological. period. [01:22]
mircea_popescu this yields the serious problem that... when does gayness ripen into no longer pathological ? and why ? [01:23]
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mircea_popescu these two groups, the people who want to fuck 14 yo girls, and the people who do not want faggotry to be mental illness, will come to blows. [01:23]
phf re watches, мы время знаем / в деревне без больших сует / желудок - верный наш брегет [01:30]
ben_vulpes forgive my thickness, but their interests are not aligned? [01:31]
phf but of course breguet had to choose the other quote for their ads, this one sends a mixed message [01:31]
* ben_vulpes is still working through the luxury branding article [01:31]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes no, because try as one might, the genders may be interchangeable but the sexes - not. [01:47]
mircea_popescu i'd fucking run it, if i were running breguet. [01:49]
mircea_popescu "this watch or back to the village. choose." [01:49]
asciilifeform << them and only them [01:51]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 03:37:59; phf: mircea_popescu: i think there are two movies about computers that are kind of worth watching, because they manage to broadly capture the period, the hackers and war games. [01:51]
mircea_popescu is broadly intended to mean "in the manner of a slightly-derogatory old style word for female" ? [01:52]
asciilifeform << i must have watched these same tapes. except that they came from some underground (literally) rental thing in '90 or so [01:52]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 03:34:54; phf: our moscow neighbor was a burned kgb spy, who upon his return from washington in the late 80s brought with him 5 boxes of tapes, recorded from u.s. cable television, commercials and all. i remember watching the whole thing, but i wouldn't be able to recall any specifics. i'm pretty sure it had the entire american ninja there, for example [01:52]
* asciilifeform spoke to brother of poettering, drepper, et al, and he replied 'wouldn't it be interesting if someone built a thing where people signed code with pgp and rated one another and...' [01:57]
phf oh yeah american ninja might've been from rental, but then i have no idea what was on those tapes. the only stuff i do remember are commercials for transformers and hot wheels [01:58]
phf breguet, becase you're not a peasant are you? [01:59]
asciilifeform << l0l!! [02:03]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 04:29:40; phf: re watches, мы время знаем / в деревне без больших сует / желудок - верный наш брегет [02:03]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform waitwut ?! [02:04]
asciilifeform which [02:04]
mircea_popescu * asciilifeform spoke to brother [02:04]
asciilifeform aha [02:04]
mircea_popescu o wait. now i understand. [02:04]
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mircea_popescu it segmented wrongly. [02:05]
asciilifeform 'the hookers churchill and stalin...' [02:05]
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mircea_popescu :D [02:06]
BingoBoingo Too old to be news [02:06]
assbot DEA Recruitment Hurts Texas Trucking Co. | The Fix ... ( ) [02:06]
mircea_popescu romanian has an entire chapter dedicated to these. the fundamental attribution error, in romanian, is the confusion between 2nd line attribute and agent-complement [02:06]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: we have the mega-canonical 'казнить нельзя помиловать' [02:07]
mircea_popescu lol [02:08]
asciilifeform << i might have said this before, and ben_vulpes can no doubt explain it better still, but apple makes two entirely separate classes of thing, even if sometimes they are contained in a single box [02:08]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 03:47:46; mircea_popescu: "What is actually going on is that Apple is attempting to signal to the derps who willingly buy their fashion goods that actual rich people also buy those things." etc [02:08]
mircea_popescu waiter, yelling out the order to cook : "la domnu' porc, la doamna vaca si la domnisoara-n fund un castravete." [02:08]
asciilifeform idiot statusatronics, [02:08]
mircea_popescu (to the gent, pork, to the lady, veal, and to the miss in the back, a pickle.) [02:09]
mircea_popescu (to mr pig, to mrs cow and up the girl's butt, a pickle) [02:10]
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mircea_popescu "I'm an economics major who doesn't know what the hell he is going to do for a career after graduating, and frankly doesn't feel qualified to do very much. I went into university thinking that I would try for medical school, but I was one of those kids in high school who got good grades without trying very hard, and my nearly non-existent study habits have left me with a C average, although even that has been slipping [02:19]
mircea_popescu lately. Now that I'm nearing the end of my academic career, I'm starting to freak out about my career potential, and the related anxiety has me neglecting school work even further." [02:19]
mircea_popescu from the anal child files : [02:19]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: "My fiancee is pushing me away and I've lost hope" ... ( ) [02:19]
mircea_popescu this is what you get for stopping bullying. [02:19]
asciilifeform a warm welcome awaits him here in butugychag. [02:19]
mircea_popescu this fuckhead should have been getting atomic whirlies and shitwedgies for 20 hours a day until he killed himself aged 15. [02:19]
asciilifeform if these are subvarieties of thrashing - then yes [02:20]
mircea_popescu sadly they're the pathetic us passive-agressive reinterpretations thereof. [02:22]
* asciilifeform had to go and look both of'em up [02:22]
asciilifeform 'It started with Mortimer J Adler and his 'How to Read a Book'. I bought it about two years ago, and shortly after that time I became fixated on the idea of getting a liberal education and reading the Great Books.' >> blatant ripoff of [02:24]
assbot THINKING ... ( ) [02:24]
mircea_popescu the obnoxious thing is that tlp fucking coddles the fucktard. [02:25]
asciilifeform (this circa 1997. for some reason the copy on his www omits the date) [02:25]
mircea_popescu "go kill yourself. now. this is the best thing any specialist could ever tell you, and the only thing that you really should hear, from anyone. you are an unfortunately failed experiment in biocombinatorics. end it already, it's both uninteresting and wasteful." [02:26]
mircea_popescu this acting like every vessel that didn't happen to get a soul at fill-up is nevertheless full and should be given attention... sigh. [02:26]
mircea_popescu EVEN IF they find some way to "fix it" what they'll have found is a way to make empty bottles fake fullness for longer than anyone'd care to inquire. [02:27]
mircea_popescu there's nothing to fix here. these aren't problems people get. these are problems things trying to masquerade as people get. [02:27]
asciilifeform 'To this day I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night. It reached down and cupped me in Its hands, lifting me up from my hole. As I sank to the ground clawing at the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye. "Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?" it asked. You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinker's Anonymous poster.' [02:30]
mircea_popescu wager of battle. [02:30]
mircea_popescu i wager no fucking higher power would as much as sneeze on this one. [02:30]
BingoBoingo The stories at Thinker's Anonymous have to suck [02:33]
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BingoBoingo [02:33]
assbot A New Detox—for Drunken Bears | The Fix ... ( ) [02:33]
asciilifeform fucking eurorasts [02:35]
asciilifeform first they ban old fashioned bear baiting, before long it'll be mandatory patek philip and butt piracy for everyone [02:35]
BingoBoingo Seriously.Though it would be something to see a bear holding hands in a circle growling out a serenity prayer. [02:37]
BingoBoingo Bears are supposed to be a measure of culture though. If meet a bear and it mauls you your culture sucks. If you meet a bear and it shares your booze, your culture is enlightened. If the bear buggers you stop hanging around furries. [02:42]
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asciilifeform server log spam >>>>> '' [02:45]
BingoBoingo From same place as Ukranian bear story [02:46]
assbot Grizzly Bear Gets All Harsh With Stoner | The Fix ... ( ) [02:46]
BingoBoingo Apparently bear fight like the morbidly obese: "According to court records, Hopkins went to feed the bears, which was part of his job. “He entered the bear pen and began to place food out. Once inside, nothing separated him from the bears. At some point while Hopkins was working, the largest bear, Red, attacked him. The bear knocked Hopkins to the ground, sat on him, and bit his leg, knee and rear-end." [02:47]
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BingoBoingo !up coercively [02:54]
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mircea_popescu !up coercively [02:56]
-assbot- You voiced coercively for another 30 minutes. [02:56]
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coercively fun. [02:56]
mircea_popescu who might you be ? [02:56]
coercively Idk. Random. [02:57]
mircea_popescu mk [02:57]
coercively Somehow wandered here on my very inspirational journey of ircing. [02:57]
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fluffypony it's just ircing on the cake [03:02]
ben_vulpes oof [03:02]
fluffypony that's all I got [03:02]
fluffypony not enough coffee [03:02]
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fluffypony awwww he quit [03:03]
ben_vulpes full stop [03:03]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: are you familiar with grindwork? [03:05]
mircea_popescu badoing kssss [03:09]
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assbot Bizarre - Henny Youngman - YouTube ... ( ) [03:11]
punkman trolol [03:20]
assbot Linus’s Rant Rewritten ... ( ) [03:20]
mircea_popescu The reason I think women are hot today is that they are today, not that they are hot. I watch pornos from the seventies and I think to myself, "well, it would be better than bestiality, I guess." [03:27]
mircea_popescu EXACTLY. [03:27]
mircea_popescu "Disclaimer: I am not a kernel programmer, so I may have am certain I have misinterpreted some of the technical aspects of Linus’s original post." [03:28]
mircea_popescu yet i am a self-deluded imbecile, who imagines she still has something to say in spite of that. [03:28]
mircea_popescu for fucks sake these dumb bitches. [03:28]
mircea_popescu YO STUPID WOMEN : SHUT THE FUCK UP. nobody, really, literally, nobody wants to see or hear you. the kitchen is good enough. [03:29]
mircea_popescu stop giving feminism a bad name. [03:29]
punkman interesting [03:38]
assbot CDE: Lightweight application virtualization for Linux ... ( ) [03:38]
ben_vulpes wheee [03:39]
ben_vulpes punkman: ^^ [03:39]
ben_vulpes running it anywhere? [03:39]
punkman ben_vulpes: not yet but seems like it might come in handy [03:40]
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ben_vulpes > nasty-bash-hack.txt [03:41]
BingoBoingo [03:50]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2015 Report | Qntra ... ( ) [03:50]
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punkman lol [03:52]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [03:52]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 328.5, vol: 14099.29617567 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 311.302, vol: 15677.1435 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 332.55, vol: 27391.45060369 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 339.99, vol: 2.88929293 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 351.279968, vol: 44889.58240000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 317.0, vol: 63.84609024 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 297.177661027, vol: 51.8480377 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [03:53]
BingoBoingo ;;more [03:53]
gribble 336.932289429 [03:53]
mircea_popescu lol @eth's strange week... [03:54]
mircea_popescu from 1.x to 4 then to 3 then rebound then... then what ? [03:54]
mircea_popescu but hey, hope springs eternally. [03:54]
mircea_popescu on 4 oct, last time it was 3, the "mkt cap" was 50mn. now 80mn. because sure, 60% inflation month to month, this works now. [03:55]
mircea_popescu supposedly there exist suckers buying into this. like supposedly there existed suckers buying into the original "sale". right-o. [03:56]
BingoBoingo Oh shit [03:57]
* ben_vulpes gaily refuses to give a shit about ethereum [03:59]
ben_vulpes i met vitalik when he was just writing and like a 19 year old college student [03:59]
ben_vulpes very pimply, upon recollection. [04:04]
BingoBoingo Very swift was Buterin's fall from writing like a 19 year old to writing like a 29 year old desperate to keep the VC cock interested in his fading twink looks so he could keep up the gay for pay [04:15]
ben_vulpes goodness bb [04:19]
BingoBoingo I'm sober and its Sunday, grumpy is my primary feel and venom my primary language atm [04:26]
BingoBoingo !s See the advantages: you can reprogram the faux vroom speaker for horse whinny. [04:28]
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BingoBoingo But for srs, isn't that the Startup incubators eating college kids racket in a nutshell. 19 year old buterin taking it in the ass for money. Aged as though he's thirty he can't the the VC money, he gets the crack rock every fifth blowie in an alley money. [04:32]
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shinohai <<< my new favorit BingoBoingo quote. [06:09]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 07:15:28; BingoBoingo: Very swift was Buterin's fall from writing like a 19 year old to writing like a 29 year old desperate to keep the VC cock interested in his fading twink looks so he could keep up the gay for pay [06:09]
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davout bonjour #b-a [06:47]
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btcdrak can you smell the desperation now? [08:06]
assbot On block sizes — Medium ... ( ) [08:06]
davout btcdrak: the "chinese translation here" is pretty lulzy too [08:21]
btcdrak "In talking with miners and companies, one thing I’m hearing repeatedly is “we will wait for the second conference in December. If there’s no progress by then, we’ll switch to BIP 101”. [08:22]
btcdrak that is a complete lie. [08:22]
btcdrak What he means is a few companies that dont even run their own full nodes but have millions in VC capital have said they support BIP101 [08:22]
btcdrak Mike is an outright liar. [08:23]
btcdrak in fact, most of what he's written in that article is an outright lie [08:24]
davout and obviously, most of these stances are taken by the marketing derps, while the actual people who actually hold their business together are too busy not caring and working on actual problems anyway [08:24]
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davout "Bitcoin XT: a project run by two men who already shipped a compromise solution that reflects the demands of miners, users and companies." <<< it strikes me as weird then that "users", "miners", and "companies" aren't running it, why could it be? [08:28]
davout micro-conspiruhcee [08:28]
btcdrak the whole thing is so crass [08:40]
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shinohai <<< This sounds like sour grapes xD [08:59]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 11:06:23; btcdrak: can you smell the desperation now? [08:59]
shinohai Not like anyone is twisting anyone's arm and forcing them to run core, or anything else for that matter. [09:02]
btcdrak mircea_popescu: BashCo is a r/bitcoin moderator [09:02]
shinohai BashCo is also involved in changetip or somesuch iirc [09:02]
shinohai !gettrust BashCo [09:02]
assbot BashCo is not registered in WoT. [09:02]
shinohai Hardly surprising. [09:02]
shinohai <<< Impossible, how can you carve such a mass from a single block of wood? [09:10]
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mircea_popescu btcdrak BashCo hi theee [09:49]
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assbot Ransomware decryptor | Kaspersky Lab ... ( ) [10:22]
mircea_popescu nowai ?> [10:23]
punkman "The ransomware authors are arrested and all existing keys have been added to our database." [10:23]
shinohai r/dogecoin lulz "yay we matter! skids want to get paid in our scamcoinz!" [10:23]
assbot Anime streaming website got hacked, hackers want dogecoin for database information. : dogecoin ... ( ) [10:23]
mircea_popescu impressive. [10:24]
shinohai oct. 28 0.o [10:27]
punkman "Yay! Yay everyone! I got a new arm! #Cyborg step one: complete." [10:28]
mircea_popescu but can jack off with it ? [10:28]
punkman a lot of people are wondering [10:29]
mircea_popescu "The Heart Attack Grill in Las Vegas, Nev., has come under scrutiny since one of its patrons suffered an actual heart attack while eating a Triple Bypass Burger there earlier this week." [10:30]
mircea_popescu "There is no information there. It is there in order for you to talk about it-- so you have something to talk to others about, through a screen darkly or face to face, because if it weren't for these meaningless media stories which includes all partisan politics people would have nothing to say to each other, and society's collapse into hikikomori narcissism would be total. Which is why it is correct to say that pop [10:32]
mircea_popescu culture isn't a symptom of our dying society, it is its heroic measures." [10:32]
mircea_popescu word. "why can't i quit pop culture ?" "because to you it's a solution, not a problem." [10:32]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo pretty much it yeah. [10:54]
mircea_popescu hola davout [10:54]
davout ave [10:55]
mircea_popescu Mike is an outright liar. << this is neither surprising nor remarkable by this point. [10:55]
mircea_popescu eagerly awayting the amir taaki - mike what's his name NEWTHEREUM!!11 next spring. [10:55]
davout that he still *is*, is. [10:55]
mircea_popescu "Bitcoin XT: a project run by two men << who are the men ?! [10:56]
mircea_popescu davout what exactly are they gonna do, go take up gardening ? [10:56]
mircea_popescu fade into an alt scam, a la keiser ? [10:57]
mircea_popescu punkman so far bitcoin is batting 0 / 2 for "criminal anonimity" is it. [10:58]
davout anything! [10:59]
davout just not the same retarded stuff, "but nao with chinese translashun!1" [11:00]
punkman mircea_popescu: it's not so bad for the competent, is it? [11:00]
mircea_popescu so far there's been "o noes drug market!11" [11:00]
mircea_popescu got closed down [11:00]
mircea_popescu "we encrypt your hdd, pay btc". [11:00]
mircea_popescu got closed down [11:00]
mircea_popescu all the pants wetting about "Assasination markets" and whatnot is probably misplaced. [11:01]
mircea_popescu i assassinated buterin, lolski, derpersson, whoever. no need for a "market". [11:01]
mircea_popescu meanwhile dumbass white kids in montana can't get laid with or without assistance, what markets. [11:01]
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mircea_popescu seems the entire "bitcoin is for crymynalzzzz" is more of the same "i wish i was cool, maybe if i put this hat on ?" [11:02]
* shinohai would not be surprised to hear of XThereum soon [11:05]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 13:55:14; mircea_popescu: eagerly awayting the amir taaki - mike what's his name NEWTHEREUM!!11 next spring. [11:05]
mircea_popescu Neo BTC [11:05]
mircea_popescu it's like the matrix, see. take the red pill of escaping censorship into the loving embrace of the nsa ofshots! [11:06]
punkman mircea_popescu: also "I wish I was rich, maybe if I had an offshore trust" [11:06]
mircea_popescu you wanna be rich, get a better dad. [11:06]
mircea_popescu no better dad, BE the better dad. [11:07]
mircea_popescu "If you want to watch these invisible unconscious defenses play out right in front of you, in real time, in a real way, watch an adult American try to learn a second language. [11:11]
mircea_popescu Short of cauterizing your own genitals, nothing seems like it would change who you are like speaking in an-other's language. Blech, I'd rather wear someone else's underwear, no thanks, I'll take the 12 credits but no way am I retaining anything." [11:11]
mircea_popescu ahaha is it ? [11:11]
asciilifeform << oh for fuxsake, did you READ the analysis ? [11:18]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 13:22:47; punkman: "The ransomware authors are arrested and all existing keys have been added to our database." [11:18]
asciilifeform these were TARDS [11:18]
asciilifeform as in, folks who write virii in 'dotnet' [11:18]
mircea_popescu ofcoursetheywere. [11:19]
mircea_popescu this is the overarching point. idiot : "bitcoin empowers idiots just like me". no, it doesn't. [11:20]
mircea_popescu it actually disempowers idiots just like you. [11:20]
mircea_popescu "so then what hope for anarcho-syndicalism is there ???" you mean that enchanted land where you don't have to work because you're somehow rich and yet idiots being rich does not degrade richdom ? plus you have "all the choices" but never have to take one to get there ? "yes!!!!" [11:21]
asciilifeform << their paper re: 'coinvault' (one of the two trojans in question.) good for some lulz for mats, diametric, and anybody else who goes in for this [11:21]
mircea_popescu can't help you. [11:21]
assbot A Nightmare on Malware Street - CoinVault - Securelist ... ( ) [11:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform kinda too lazy to read, but what did they do, caught some derp's gf's mother's (she was underage) cc on coinbase or what. [11:23]
shinohai LOLZ [11:23]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: describes only the exe [11:23]
mircea_popescu my laziness is well placed. [11:23]
asciilifeform but given what it describes, the idiot prolly confessed on some phorum [11:24]
asciilifeform (everything build with vs, plenty of identifying strings littered therein, as is the custom, uses hardcoded dns turds, etc.) [11:25]
asciilifeform *built [11:25]
asciilifeform the one thing i don't get is why the fuck these people never set up a btc node on the victim's box [11:25]
mircea_popescu i suppose "an actual cryptovault you will never, ever crack" goes into the pile of things the republic is going to strike back with if rattled enough. [11:26]
asciilifeform for 'i've been paid' sensor AND pubkey download [11:26]
mircea_popescu not like you can't make one of these as an actual autonomous system sitting in hdd cpu [11:26]
* asciilifeform just described the recipe for it above. [11:26]
mircea_popescu right [11:26]
mircea_popescu could be a spv wallet even. it just checks for a speciffic address being paid, derived from the key. [11:27]
asciilifeform aha. [11:27]
asciilifeform trivial. [11:27]
mircea_popescu i suppose it goes on the to-do list once someone myseriously disappears. [11:28]
* asciilifeform searches in vain for the logz where he described ~how~ malware artists typically get caught [11:28]
asciilifeform (short version: it is almost inevitably by being 'part of th3 l337 sc3n3!!! k00l d00dz!!1111' or any variant thereof) [11:29]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and you prolly meant 'derives the decryption key from the payment tx' [11:41]
asciilifeform because that is how this is done. [11:41]
mircea_popescu well... rsa is malleable, right ? :D [11:41]
asciilifeform (not from the luser's tx, but from a second one, where the robot on the artist's end moves the coin) [11:42]
mircea_popescu mmm not really want any moving parts do you. [11:43]
asciilifeform the decryption key cannot be in the luser's house. [11:43]
asciilifeform because that is retarded. [11:43]
mircea_popescu right. [11:43]
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mircea_popescu binaryatrocity you're leaking ip. [11:43]
asciilifeform nor ought there be a 'c&c' box in the usual sense of one that is ever connected to by the trojan. [11:43]
mircea_popescu right. [11:44]
asciilifeform whole thing is a trivial example of 'can operate entirely as a small patch on a bitcoind' [11:44]
mircea_popescu no, not really. [11:44]
mircea_popescu whole thing is a trivial example of WHY usg doth not want a sane bitcoind, ie, a 700kb one./ [11:44]
mircea_popescu a statically linkable one. etc. [11:44]
asciilifeform too late, l0l [11:45]
mircea_popescu it specializes in being too late. [11:45]
asciilifeform the only reason this is not already sop is that loading a 40GB blockchain is rather conspicuous, even on a lamer's box [11:46]
mircea_popescu you don't need the chain. [11:47]
asciilifeform (and doing anything short of this opens you up to trickery) [11:47]
davout ..." [11:47]
davout whoops [11:47]
asciilifeform you need the chain for the same reason the rest of us need the chain [11:47]
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mircea_popescu whyssat ? [11:47]
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asciilifeform to avoid being relocated to a parallel universe ? [11:48]
mircea_popescu no. but ima take this to encrypted. [11:48]
punkman why does parallel universe matter? local app must find the key in blockchain, verification is when the key works [11:49]
* asciilifeform bbl, off to fill the party's daily uranium quota for the nth five-year plan [11:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform [11:51]
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mircea_popescu inexplicably, tlp doesn't think Kristen Wiig is funny [11:53]
mircea_popescu /ironic [11:53]
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mircea_popescu << pretty great explanation on how psychological defenses work. [12:00]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Thank God The 'Heart Attack Grill' Is A Great Name; Also, How To Learn French ... ( ) [12:00]
mircea_popescu "Take a look at Brandon. When media wants to depict a sex addict they depict the wealthy, the good looking, the powerful, the well hung. There are plenty of slimy basement dwelling janitor sex addicts out there, but they are represented as sex offenders. There are also plenty of gay sex addicts out there, but they are represented as gay. Both of you are dismissed, the world has no time for your nonsense. The sex a [12:08]
mircea_popescu ddicts we see in movies and on the news are: rock stars, politicians, sports guys, CEOs. If you think about the demo primed to receive this depiction of lothario as sex addict-- women over 35, i.e. the demo for Shame-- sex addiction needs to be seen as terrible because it is terrible for them. It may also be terrible for the sex addict, but fuck you, we have a society to run." [12:08]
mircea_popescu or, "how the women nobody can be bothered to fuck anymore are getting into everyone's business any chance they get". [12:08]
mircea_popescu "i know nothing about how kernels work but i'm 36 and i don't think the nielsen box in my house does enough to mess up society - here's some rephrasing i've done in my mysteriously abundant spare time" [12:09]
mircea_popescu " Sex addiction rarely breaks laws so it can't be punished, and there's no God so the immorality of it is debatable, i.e. inconsequential. It must be a disease, that way other people don't want to catch it. All psychiatric treatment of constructed syndromes isn't about cure but about regression to the mean, where mean= cubicle drone. " not even, just... please believe that monogynous fambly is the only fambly and it [12:12]
mircea_popescu really makes more sense for you to buy her a diamond than for her to turn tricks and bring you the money. [12:12]
davout imma read the article, this way i'll get to skip one third of the log :D [12:12]
mircea_popescu lol [12:13]
mircea_popescu i think it might be about three or four different oens tho [12:13]
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mircea_popescu << ayup, definitely. old farts trying to maintain relevancy by controlling the fucking activities of adolescents ? check. [12:24]
mircea_popescu "That's the trick of Shame. "He's an attractive, wealthy, guy with a big penis (did you see it, ladies?) but he's not using it properly..." Brandon's sex addiction makes him very un-desirable, no one watches Shame and says, "wow, I want to be Brandon" and no woman says, "wow, I want to be with Brandon." The opposite is true for Tucker Max, who is popular with women, especially the very women that he "degrades." Now [12:24]
mircea_popescu what does the system do? [12:24]
mircea_popescu There's only one thing it can do: say that these women don't know better, that they're broken women from broken homes... that they're not real women." [12:24]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Shame Is The Desired Outcome ... ( ) [12:24]
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mircea_popescu but anyway, back to the basex. [12:31]
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shinohai Just what the doctor ordered. [12:35]
thestringpuller ^- makes me think of dr. dre [12:35]
shinohai Dr. Dre would be in agreement with me on booty I am almost certain. [12:35]
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mircea_popescu mk, have the full set [12:37]
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mircea_popescu (psa : if you're female, in your 20s and ~couldn't~ replace either girl at my option, you fail at life. practice more, this is important. reading jezbel is not.) [12:37]
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thestringpuller hearn's newest article is so desperate, I can taste the fear. [12:56]
asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu [13:02]
gribble The operation succeeded. [13:02]
mircea_popescu how's the pluranium mines [13:03]
davout the smell from afar is going to be more than enough for me [13:03]
* asciilifeform continues on the way. [13:03]
mircea_popescu mayhap you're right. [13:04]
thestringpuller /wind 10 [13:08]
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thestringpuller >:( [13:08]
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mircea_popescu !up keyless [13:46]
-assbot- You voiced keyless for 30 minutes. [13:46]
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mircea_popescu !up iinaj [13:46]
-assbot- You voiced iinaj for 30 minutes. [13:46]
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keyless just listening today (mike_c at work). Don't have my key accessible. [13:47]
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mircea_popescu cool [13:48]
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keyless for all the climate deniers in the room. [14:06]
mircea_popescu wait, we deny there's a climate ? [14:09]
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mircea_popescu "This is how I know that anyone who says, "If only I could live in Mad Men time where you could pinch a girl's ass and not get in trouble for it" is going to be way disappointed if a TARDIS shows up, because they wouldn't pinch them back then, either, not because they are afraid of trouble but because they are afraid of girls. Exhibit A: you know what a TARDIS is." [14:14]
mircea_popescu motherfucker i only know what it is because i looked it up because you're fucking obsessed with it. [14:14]
mircea_popescu hot damn. [14:14]
* ascii_field was never able to fully hold in laughter when hearing of 'tardis' [14:14]
mircea_popescu never read blogs, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience! [14:15]
ascii_field (turned out, it was a time machine from an ancient british tv series where a multiverse-travelling demigod picks up british chix and fights alien vermin etc) [14:15]
mircea_popescu ftr : i've been here over a year and i've not pinched a single butt (the plain variety - on the street, uknown - let's not get into perversion) because a) they're short and b) they're petrified. [14:16]
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ascii_field holy fuck [14:17]
mircea_popescu ascii_field wasn't it in that time traveling british thing with the guy with wild hair and the two kids ? [14:17]
ascii_field gcc 5.2 won't build gpg 1.4. [14:17]
mircea_popescu well yes [14:17]
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ascii_field and not only, [14:19]
ascii_field but also [14:19]
assbot [linux] older LTS kernels are not compatible to gcc 5.1 · Issue #12 · manjaro/packages-core · GitHub ... ( ) [14:19]
ascii_field and fuck knows what and where else. [14:19]
mircea_popescu yea [14:21]
mircea_popescu 5 branch was... revolutionary. [14:21]
ascii_field since when was this even considered acceptable by anybody with two braincells - for version n of a compiler to refuse to build something which n-epsilon did happily build ??! [14:21]
mircea_popescu what, you think systemd happened in a vacuum ? [14:21]
ascii_field it happened on that other planet where folks derp about 'desktop linux' and configure their boxes with mice etc [14:22]
mircea_popescu the strange idea being that they want to "fix" the kernel [14:23]
mircea_popescu !s Philip Müller [14:23]
assbot 0 results for 'Philip M�ller' : [14:23]
mircea_popescu surprising. [14:23]
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ascii_field wai wat [14:25]
ascii_field who [14:25]
mircea_popescu [14:25]
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ascii_field btw, [14:25]
ascii_field [14:25]
ascii_field ^ it [14:25]
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ascii_field gotta love it, 'update needed!!11111' [14:25]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: i don't know this face [14:25]
mircea_popescu what shall i answer to the who ? [14:26]
ascii_field müller [14:27]
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mircea_popescu right but i mean you don't know the face you don't know the name, i guess "nobody" ? [14:28]
mircea_popescu some overenthusiastic derp, next in line to be hearn/poettering/blabla ? [14:28]
ascii_field evidently. [14:29]
ascii_field funny how the mug shot looks quite like poettering's [14:29]
ascii_field must be a 'secret handshake' of a kind. [14:29]
mircea_popescu what, being german ? the new black ? [14:31]
mircea_popescu 9 in 10 immigrant moslems agree. [14:31]
ascii_field l0lz [14:31]
mircea_popescu they got a whole system down there i hear, hussies babymomma while derps fuck up linux and wash dishes in the buff. [14:32]
mircea_popescu "the nordic system" [14:32]
ascii_field how do we say 'la illah ila allah muhammad rasul allah' in de ? [14:32]
ascii_field the no-dick system [14:33]
mircea_popescu hahahaa apt! [14:33]
mircea_popescu up there they got dat nodick system yo! [14:34]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu et al: << example of ransomware written by folks who aren't retarded [15:02]
assbot The Shade Encryptor: a Double Threat - Securelist ... ( ) [15:02]
ascii_field (or, at least, palpably ~less~ retarded than earlier example) [15:03]
thestringpuller ascii_field: My Russian piano teacher enjoys your writing. [15:04]
ascii_field l0lwut [15:04]
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thestringpuller i printed off your best bash's and showed them to him, and he was quite amused [15:04]
thestringpuller and he asked, "Is he Russian?" [15:04]
ascii_field which would these be [15:05]
thestringpuller << that was one of them [15:07]
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thestringpuller i also asked him what a kolhoz, and he looked at me funny and said, "Those haven't existed in a long time. Although we are probably in one right now." [15:09]
ascii_field !b 1 [15:10]
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ascii_field << while this is a typical tard: [15:15]
assbot TeslaCrypt 2.0 disguised as CryptoWall - Securelist ... ( ) [15:15]
ascii_field 'The AES-256-CBC algorithm is used to encrypt files; all files are encrypted with the same key... In spite of the scary stories about RSA-2048 shown to victims, this encryption algorithm is not used by the malware in any form... The AES-256-CBC algorithm is used to encrypt files; all files are encrypted with the same key.' [15:16]
ascii_field oops [15:16]
ascii_field last quote was, rather, [15:16]
ascii_field 'C&C servers are located on the Tor network; the malware communicates with the C&Cs via public tor2web services.' [15:16]
ascii_field and even 'Versions 0.2.5 – 0.3.x saved the decryption key (with other data) in their own service file, key.dat. The area containing the key was zeroed out in the file only after completing encryption, making it possible to save the key by interrupting the encryptor’s operation (e.g., by turning off the computer). After this, the key could be extracted from key.dat and used to decrypt all files.' [15:17]
ascii_field in other nyooz, [15:22]
ascii_field [15:22]
assbot Xen Patches VM Escape Vulnerability | Threatpost | The first stop for security news ... ( ) [15:22]
ascii_field what, the... 5th? FULL motherfucking vm escape this year ?? [15:23]
ascii_field and these are just the burned ones. [15:24]
deedbot- [Trilema] How is it the end ? - [15:24]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: 'Worse, cynicism and aspirational branding aren't two opposite ends of a pole, they form a cycle: the chasm between your cynical view of real life and the perfect definition of the aspirational images in ads makes you even more cynical towards real life; which drives you further into the safety of branding. Which is why you drink.' << y'know, i'd appreciate tlp moar if he were not talking, in every odd [15:27]
ascii_field paragraph, to some demented mutants who i neither ever were nor ever met nor ever expect to meet [15:27]
mircea_popescu right. [15:27]
ascii_field i will admit, i would never even have known wtf is a 'patek philip' if not for tlp... [15:27]
mircea_popescu im trying, but he's not easily digestible. [15:28]
mircea_popescu one major problem is that he has some major fuctardry embedded. another one is that he insists in using shitty references. [15:28]
mircea_popescu yet another is the discoursive style - it's as if he never actually went to school. [15:28]
mircea_popescu which i guess he didn't, us college. [15:28]
ascii_field he assumes that (what he passes off as - i cannot compare it with any objective reality that i can access) usa 'pop culture' is a thing [15:28]
ascii_field a thing in the objective sense [15:29]
mircea_popescu myeah. disentangling this dead dependency is, i will want to point out, just as much a cognitive nightmare as fixing shit to compile with inane gcc or w/e [15:29]
* ascii_field can see it [15:30]
mircea_popescu btw : my first impulse when you made that quote was omfg i left it out of my last article, it should be in there! mad chase ensues to find it in source material, by the time i have contextualizatio0n ready i know where it should be in my article [15:30]
mircea_popescu lo and behold it is! [15:30]
mircea_popescu self-suckerpunch [15:30]
ascii_field l0lz [15:30]
mircea_popescu it's not even a problem of references per se, is the fucking issue. "don draper", big fucking deal. [15:31]
mircea_popescu but when i use throwaways i use them on the basis of something, whereas with him that something's not actually fully formed behind the throwaways [15:31]
mircea_popescu the reason you can't translate trilema from romanian to english IS NOT that you can't move the references. but he doesn't offer much in the way of this benefit. [15:32]
ascii_field reading tlp 'the aspirational images in ads makes you even more xxxxxxxx' feels quite like martian telling me 'your tentacles ache every day, which drives you to drink' [15:32]
ascii_field i don't have tentacles. really. [15:32]
mircea_popescu makes shit like "Short of cauterizing your own genitals, nothing seems like it would change who you are like speaking in an-other's language. Blech, I'd rather wear someone else's underwear, no thanks, I'll take the 12 credits but no way am I retaining anything. "Well, science says you lose the ability to learn languages as you get older." Oh, did NPR just interview TED? Dummies in other countries and dummies in t [15:32]
mircea_popescu he CIA learn as adults, are they all using different science? An American describes another American who is fluent in French as "oh my God, he's so smart, he speaks French and everything" but this statement is easily unmasked as a defense by getting him to describe a Frenchman who speaks English: "well, they all speak English over there." The bilingualism is robbed of the "intelligence" signification because it's see [15:32]
mircea_popescu n as customary.... who they are. America is a branded-identity nation, which means hearing yourself speak in not-your accent, with not-your vocabulary sounds very not-you, which is why when an American tries to speak French he feels self-conscious, but the Frenchman hearing it feels you aren't even trying. He'd be wrong, you are trying: trying not to become French." [15:32]
mircea_popescu even more fucking insulting [15:32]
mircea_popescu TU QUOQUE, MOTHERFUCKER! [15:33]
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-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [15:33]
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ascii_field actually, here he describes something vaguely real: [15:33]
* ascii_field sees no end of civilians derping at him re 'languages omfg111!!111' [15:34]
mircea_popescu of course it's real [15:34]
mircea_popescu the problem is he isn't fucking applying it to himself! [15:34]
ascii_field 'holy fuck, you speak language!' [15:34]
phf "he knows english better then any american i know" well, that says something about ~americans you know~ [15:39]
mircea_popescu word. [15:42]
ascii_field [15:53]
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mircea_popescu where's the butt! [15:54]
ascii_field a chick's, i'm told [15:54]
ascii_field and is that piss on the front ? [15:54]
ascii_field (typical failure mode of a chinese office chair - converts to stake.) [15:54]
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ascii_field << not this one, but apparently ~another~ similar breakage [15:56]
assbot Woman badly injured by exploding computer chair, News, News, AsiaOne Business News ... ( ) [15:56]
fluffypony [16:00]
assbot Office Hijinks Award Ribbon: Outstanding by PositiveCynic on Etsy ... ( ) [16:00]
fluffypony that is awesome [16:00]
phf fuck this i'm moving tostanding desk [16:00]
kakobrekla or get a decent chair? [16:01]
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ascii_field kakobrekla: 'decent' is what? an old cable spool ? [16:04]
mircea_popescu lubed. [16:05]
ascii_field unrelatedly, [16:06]
ascii_field does anyone else find that will NOT download in any ver of firefox ? [16:06]
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ascii_field 'network error' [16:06]
mircea_popescu tbh i have no idea how these accidents are supposed to occur - every air cusjopm i ever saw had this 2mm steel plate protecting the butthole. [16:06]
mircea_popescu supposedly the failing chamber pierced that ? with what. [16:06]
ascii_field the piston. [16:06]
mircea_popescu not enough pressure, plox to math it [16:06]
ascii_field (plastic piston-head) [16:06]
ascii_field did math it. it is vaguely possible ~if and only if~ the user drops into the chair [16:07]
ascii_field from a metre or so up [16:07]
mircea_popescu wellookthen [16:07]
mircea_popescu ascii_field downloaded/saved. ff 20.0 [16:07]
ascii_field hm. [16:08]
mircea_popescu maybe if the piston was tungsten tipped or some nutty shit. [16:08]
ascii_field steel pistonrod, plastic head. [16:08]
ascii_field no buttplate. [16:08]
mircea_popescu i just looked, it's there. [16:09]
ascii_field hm. [16:09]
kakobrekla omg chair progress [16:09]
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thestringpuller ;;google robot rock [16:37]
gribble Daft Punk - Robot Rock - YouTube: ; Daft Punk - Robot Rock (Official audio) - YouTube: ; Robot Rock (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [16:37]
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kakobrekla kanzure kdomanski Keefe keyless knotwork_ Kushed [16:44]
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ben_vulpes entrance fee to casita vulpes has evolved into "hot meal, diapers, and a bottle of moet" [16:55]
mircea_popescu lmao [16:55]
mircea_popescu why moet ? [16:55]
ben_vulpes and yeah moet schmoet, but i want to *see* my friends [16:56]
mircea_popescu in other news, "There are, in fact, fairy tales about women with agency, and your article would have been even stronger if you knew them (but it's understandable that you don't). "The Girl Without Hands" for one, and a fairy tale retelling of the Psyche and Eros legend, "East of the Sun and West of the Moon". (The retelling is better than the Greek legend, where Psyche is deus ex machina'd at the end. She does at least [16:56]
mircea_popescu make choices and take risks along the way, though.) There are also loads of Native American fairy tales with women who have agency." [16:56]
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mircea_popescu god damned it... "this is better than the greek myth because i like it more" [16:56]
mircea_popescu you fail at comprehending wtf anything is, anon derpy female comentator on tlp site. [16:56]
ben_vulpes i am also going to have to redo al of my keybindings for single handed use [16:57]
ben_vulpes all* [16:57]
mircea_popescu and psyche is supposed to be a fucking object. that is THE POINT of that particular story (fuck you myth legend bs words you don't even comprehend. story is good enough for pedestrians). [16:57]
mircea_popescu and yes it's a pity idiots don't know greek. how about penelope, not enough agency ? [16:57]
mircea_popescu how about fucking athena, to this day the avatar of agency - stupid bitch came out of her father's head pointy end first [16:58]
mircea_popescu like to this day comes out of my fucking head. [16:58]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes not that i imagine i can keep up with the vulpes, but - i ok'd remodelling of a bathroom. in wax. [16:59]
ben_vulpes wax?! [16:59]
mircea_popescu yes. [16:59]
ben_vulpes plz fosr to splain, boss [16:59]
mircea_popescu for the wall to be covered in wax drip so you can attach candles to it so they drip in the bath! [16:59]
mircea_popescu and stubs on the faucets and whatnot. [16:59]
ben_vulpes aha [17:00]
ben_vulpes notbad dot urmom [17:00]
mircea_popescu mymom was never this cool. [17:00]
ben_vulpes << epic [17:01]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 18:09:14; thestringpuller: i also asked him what a kolhoz, and he looked at me funny and said, "Those haven't existed in a long time. Although we are probably in one right now." [17:01]
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ben_vulpes << congirmed. [17:08]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 19:05:41; ascii_field: does anyone else find that will NOT download in any ver of firefox ? [17:08]
ben_vulpes 39.0.3 [17:09]
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ben_vulpes in other news, america has retardified even midwives [17:10]
ben_vulpes "is my child at risk? [17:11]
ben_vulpes "i uh well YES" [17:11]
ben_vulpes "how?" [17:11]
ben_vulpes "the doula will tell you more" /scoot [17:11]
ben_vulpes women's spaces. [17:11]
ben_vulpes lovely feels, no rigor or discipline. [17:12]
mircea_popescu at risk of what ? [17:12]
ben_vulpes well nothing specific you see just uh statistics that she couldnt understand much less explain. [17:13]
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mircea_popescu your kid is at risk of nothing speciffic ? [17:13]
mircea_popescu what is this, oregon ? [17:13]
ben_vulpes america. [17:13]
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ben_vulpes hopitalcorp tmrceteras [17:14]
mircea_popescu i'm sure it'll be fine. [17:14]
mircea_popescu << check out the awesome protective power of being the richest corporation in all of the us fictive economy. [17:15]
assbot Disney Jasmine Porn - Disney cartoon porn ... ( ) [17:15]
ben_vulpes of course it will. she was just flailing in the presence of apparently the first rigid cock she'd seen in a decade. [17:15]
mircea_popescu i gotta host with whoever's hosting these dudes. [17:15]
mircea_popescu leaseweb netherlands ? srsly ? [17:16]
ben_vulpes in other nyooz, i learned that the confederated tribes of the grande rhonde very intentionally do not meet curation standards or participate in the repatriation scemes. [17:16]
ben_vulpes /they/ regularly circulate ancestors about the tribe. [17:18]
mircea_popescu i have no idea what any of that is ? [17:19]
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ascii_field << oh FORSUXXAKE [17:20]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 20:08:09; ben_vulpes: << congirmed. [17:20]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: "curation standards" would be "lock all of your holy relics up in slidy climate controlled shelving units and never let anyone touch them" [17:21]
mircea_popescu who is suxxake [17:22]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: "repatriation schemes" would be "kiss the ring and the usg will pressure holders of your holy artifacts to return them" [17:22]
mircea_popescu uh. [17:23]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: confederated tribes of grande rhonde is a convenient political box for a myriad of small tribes along the length of the willamette and parts of the columbia. [17:23]
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mircea_popescu well... good for them then [17:34]
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mircea_popescu "Deconstuctionists like to ask easy questions like, "why is a story for 15 year old girls so popular among middle aged women?" They asked this about Twilight, too, but it's not at all surprising that these books are popular among middle aged women who still secretly believe women are second behind men. Not in terms of theoretical potential, perhaps, but they've grown up in a world with enough experiences that they ca [17:37]
mircea_popescu n't shake it. It's still a man's world. [17:37]
mircea_popescu The real question is why it's popular among 15 year old girls? 15 year old girls should, in theory, have grown up without 1970s sexism. Schools are hypervigilant about fostering girls development, and there are enough female everythings that it's not remarkable that there are female anythings." [17:37]
mircea_popescu heh, fucktarded douchery. soviet romania had female everythings, and they all beelined to home where they cooked for the family anyway. [17:37]
mircea_popescu what, ustards are amazed that they applied the principles of 1950s soviet feminism, got the results of 1970s soviet society and WHOA WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED ?!?!?! [17:38]
mircea_popescu im sure it was going to have been different that time. [17:38]
mircea_popescu [17:39]
mircea_popescu now go out and make sure there's enough men, forget climate fucking change. [17:39]
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ascii_field << very favoured by malware artists for some reason [17:40]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 20:16:13; mircea_popescu: leaseweb netherlands ? srsly ? [17:40]
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thestringpuller only retarded teeny bopper girls and 40 year old housewives actually take Hunger Games/Twilight seriously... [17:50]
trinque "only" is perhaps not the best term to use to describe the majority [17:54]
ben_vulpes ascii_field: [17:57]
assbot Grindwork Thinking Server | Grindwork Corporation ... ( ) [17:57]
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ascii_field wtf am i looking at, ben_vulpes [18:02]
ben_vulpes I DON'T KNOW EITHER [18:02]
ascii_field l0l expertsystems are back!!11111 [18:02]
ascii_field or so claims the site. [18:03]
ben_vulpes but it looks like some sort of prolog/cl-y saas thinger? [18:03]
ben_vulpes well what is an expert system but a tidy formalization of bizlawgic? [18:03]
ascii_field wtf with the stripped parens [18:03]
ben_vulpes mhm [18:03]
mircea_popescu [18:03]
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ascii_field 'let's introduce inconsistency!!! customer will LOVE it' [18:03]
ascii_field the moar arbitrary the better! [18:04]
ben_vulpes oh come now, didn't macsyma do the same thing? [18:04]
ben_vulpes maxima, perhaps. [18:05]
ben_vulpes o hey same diff [18:05]
ascii_field maxima has a matlabesque infix syntax iirc [18:05]
ben_vulpes DERP OF COURSE those names. [18:05]
thestringpuller trinque: quite depressing how the majority has the same mindset as the teeny boppers. [18:06]
thestringpuller interestingly, the goths burned down a hot topic to get rid of the teeny boppers in south park, but 3 more popped up. [18:07]
mircea_popescu << remarkably, chick is still there a few years later doing the exact same thing. [18:09]
assbot Jamie Lynne Grumet (@MsJamieLynne) | Twitter ... ( ) [18:09]
mircea_popescu if only men had the unyielding dedication of cockroaches. [18:09]
ascii_field doesn't load in any version of 'chrome' or 'chromium' also. [18:09]
assbot ... ( ) [18:09]
ascii_field wtf ?? [18:09]
assbot 404 Not Found ... ( ) [18:10]
ascii_field .tar.gz that is [18:10]
mircea_popescu your lowbrowsers are too new. [18:11]
ascii_field on ALL graphical www browsers i tested [18:11]
mircea_popescu it probably conflicts with unicode magic packets. [18:11]
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thestringpuller Samuel: "mommy why can't humans work together like ants?" - good question. << the actual fuck? [18:14]
thestringpuller aside from humans not being eusocial.... [18:15]
mircea_popescu so she's raising a future cuckold, good for her. [18:15]
mircea_popescu hopefully she leaves him money, it's a lot better when the cuck also "owns" the place [18:16]
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lobbes ascii_field: I can confirm the same behavior on my graphical winblowz browsers (Firefox, Chrome). On Firefox, I get additional message of 'MrTAHIXE.sig.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.' [18:17]
mircea_popescu this is pretty weird, in fairness. [18:18]
lobbes can download just fine using 'wget' via my debian server. very odd [18:18]
kakobrekla lol. try ie? [18:18]
thestringpuller !b 1 [18:18]
ascii_field ;;later tell mod6 feature request for your 'v' - degrade gracefully if the graphing lib thing is absent plz [18:18]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:18]
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ascii_field lobbes: wget works fine [18:19]
lobbes kakobrekla: funny enough, IE can download it [18:19]
kakobrekla ms ftw!! [18:19]
lobbes lol [18:19]
ascii_field lobbes: didja diff it with the wget'ed copy ? [18:19]
ascii_field and actually gpg --verify ... ? [18:19]
lobbes haven't tried verifying anything yet [18:19]
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mircea_popescu "Also, who gives a shit about what you buy? Everyone buys all the same things all the time; that's why those items are always stocked. You're not special. Nobody cares." [18:22]
BingoBoingo << A lot of 'Muricans develop an aversion to a certain kind of comedian who does the exagerated voice thing. Prolly blame Pualy Shore et al. [18:22]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 14:52:37; mircea_popescu: inexplicably, tlp doesn't think Kristen Wiig is funny [18:22]
ben_vulpes and you do? [18:22]
ben_vulpes the "and i'm with my me" bit was kinda chortleworthy but it was written by snl staff. [18:23]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo she was brought to me as an offering, she is now a stock character for 1970s/1980s born too ugly to be a slut too lazy to cheerlead i know i wanna-be a writer i-m-going-to-new-york to be discovered if it worked for horseface whatshername why not me!" [18:24]
BingoBoingo A lot of those. [18:25]
mircea_popescu yeah but we'll just call all of them kristen wiig [18:25]
mircea_popescu just like we call "academic" "cultured" "feminists" luce. [18:25]
mircea_popescu i should probably write this bestiary sometime. [18:26]
ben_vulpes << dafuq does DoE have to do with revenue, hm? [18:30]
assbot Logged on 09-05-2014 20:30:36; bitcoinpete: hashfast vp of engineering: Amy most recently came from Engine Yard, where in less than two years she went from Senior Developer to Director of Engineering. She oversaw the development of the flagship product, EY Cloud, growing revenue by over 60% in one year. [18:30]
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ben_vulpes any time I see these "oversaw/responsible for revenue of blablablah" all sorts of alarms go off. [18:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00054144 = 10.0979 BTC [+] [18:38]
lobbes !up ascii_field [18:40]
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ben_vulpes << root of trinary use in your vm, ascii_field? [18:40]
assbot Logged on 27-09-2014 03:04:39; asciilifeform: i've argued in the past that you have to ditch... binary. if you want to be rid of the 'floating point' abomination. [18:40]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker [18:40]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 362.01, Best ask: 362.49, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 362.0, 24 hour volume: 54872.8243685, 24 hour low: 324.6, 24 hour high: 361.89, 24 hour vwap: None [18:41]
lobbes ascii_field: I *was* able to verify mpi-genesis.tar.gz.sig (downloaded from IE); yet to diff with wget version [18:41]
* ben_vulpes would love to see them both verify and anything show up in the diff [18:41]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [18:46]
ben_vulpes << mircea_popescu, sauce? [18:46]
assbot Logged on 21-06-2013 22:58:29; mircea_popescu: "The relationship between the fandom and the actual profession is always, absolutely always and without exception one of extraction. Specifically, resources are sucked out of the fandom for the benefit of the profession." [18:46]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 363.0, vol: 39772.82719078 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 328.0, vol: 24781.05918 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 363.9, vol: 61930.32937046 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 406.03, vol: 10.57156055 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 367.964352, vol: 62242.05660000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 349.50003, vol: 221.85927038 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 334.742776, vol: 206.30220259 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) [18:46]
BingoBoingo ;;more [18:46]
gribble average: 360.298770867 [18:46]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes: [18:46]
ben_vulpes dang, thestringpuller. [18:47]
ben_vulpes and an excellent re-read in the context of the catcode link [18:50]
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mircea_popescu !up tcrypt [19:02]
-assbot- You voiced tcrypt for 30 minutes. [19:02]
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lobbes ascii_field: I can now confirm that both verify, and the checksums match. odd indeed [19:02]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes sling dope one [19:02]
mircea_popescu [19:03]
assbot "You're the guy who wasn't good enough to sling dope." on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [19:03]
mircea_popescu oh tsp beat me to it! [19:06]
mircea_popescu i think it might be his favourite trilema piece [19:06]
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mircea_popescu "Here are the seven most important sciences according to the NYT:; ; 1. Sociology; 2. Political science; 4. Climate science; 5. Science fiction; 7. NPR; ; 8. Law" [19:17]
btcdrak read the last paragraph of mike's reply a year ago [19:17]
assbot mike_hearn comments on Linus regrets how insults damaged the Linux community and we can do better ... ( ) [19:18]
ben_vulpes wahaha mircea_popescu sauce for the nyt bit? [19:19]
mircea_popescu [19:19]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: 5 Signs Your Child Is a Psychopath, According To The NYT ... ( ) [19:19]
mircea_popescu btcdrak you don't understand etc [19:20]
btcdrak "I think it's clear now that actually getting Bitcoin to the fabled seven transactions per second will be a lot of hard work, unless someone comes up with a new SatoshiDice like business model that results in huge demand for transactions. If things continue on their present path, scalability is really the least of our concerns - increasing usage is." [19:20]
btcdrak -mike hearn [19:20]
mircea_popescu my sarcasm! [19:22]
ben_vulpes bitcoin is useless for most people, nyooz at !1eleven!!teen [19:25]
mircea_popescu "In America, everything is a commodity, everything has a price. So when post-gold standard capitalism gets access to everything except the secret desires of women, it will necessarily create a mechanism to get them, too, i.e. some media to take the bullet as pervert so women can be free to talk in exchange for men quietly listening in. It took a decade but the system worked: Howard Stern was the inevitable synthesis of [19:27]
mircea_popescu feminism and Reaganomics, which is a sentence you will never read anywhere else." [19:27]
mircea_popescu holy shit. [19:27]
mircea_popescu that is the best stern blurb i ever heard. [19:27]
mircea_popescu <<< where we find where alf got the idea for the vertical monitor [19:31]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Amy Schumer Offers You A Look Into Your Soul ... ( ) [19:31]
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asciilifeform !up ascii_field [19:50]
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ascii_field << from xerox dorado..? [19:51]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 22:31:14; mircea_popescu: <<< where we find where alf got the idea for the vertical monitor [19:51]
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thestringpuller TLP is awesome, but does anyone else find the google ads a bit obnoxious? [19:58]
mircea_popescu !up RBLP [19:59]
-assbot- You voiced RBLP for 30 minutes. [19:59]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller you've not nullrouted google ads ? [19:59]
thestringpuller not at work [20:00]
thestringpuller at home, not even hulu can show me ads [20:01]
thestringpuller courtesy of girlfriend [20:01]
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ascii_field thestringpuller: almost unreadable on pocket toys, tabletz, etc [20:04]
ascii_field on account of the pestilential ads [20:04]
ascii_field have to go find a real computer, yes [20:04]
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jurov which mpi.tar.gz misdownloads? the one on ml? [20:07]
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jurov downloaded with firefox and verified okay [20:10]
assbot [BTC-dev] MPI Genesis. (Possibly Off-Topic!) ... ( ) [20:10]
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mircea_popescu << tlp goes to great lengths to justify to himself the fact that even though he'd love to, he doesn't get to fuck two women while they're sucking each other off. [20:16]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Amy Schumer Offers You A Look Into Your Soul ... ( ) [20:16]
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mircea_popescu this apparently HAS GOT TO be a lot more complexicated than "well... he never said "take your clothes off and mount her" to any woman" [20:17]
hanbot deedbot- [20:23]
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phf asciilifeform: did you see my message about leftover i18n stuff in mpi? [21:00]
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asciilifeform phf: yes! [21:16]
asciilifeform indeed it is there [21:16]
asciilifeform and there is a buncha rubbish/deadcode that needs to go, as well [21:16]
asciilifeform perhaps more interesting is my discovery that... the thing breaks 'v' [21:17]
asciilifeform (at least ~my~ 'v') [21:17]
asciilifeform !rated phf [21:17]
assbot You rated user phf on 01-Aug-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: ru lisper. [21:17]
shinohai ;;later tell mod6 Arch 64 is a go [21:18]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:18]
asciilifeform !rate phf 2 ru lisper; sometimes tests my code, even [21:18]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: [21:18]
asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.phf.2:d4a65b74f416edc4a69b3b1a3dcf57c1952b685ac3c2fb37aa438b8d96e53ea8 [21:19]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for phf from 1 to 2 with note: ru lisper; sometimes tests my code, even [21:19]
asciilifeform ;;later tell jurov << the issue is specifically with the items ~as found on my www hoster~ [21:20]
assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 23:09:39; jurov: downloaded with firefox and verified okay [21:20]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:20]
phf oh, ty [21:25]
phf yeah, the i18n stuff was preventing me from building it, but otherwise it works (with some extra modifications to get it running under clang/macsosx, but those are inconsequential) [21:26]
asciilifeform i'd like to get it to a point where it builds without any blood sacrifices on all vaguely-posixy machines [21:30]
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ag3nt_zer0 anyone around? [21:45]
ag3nt_zer0 oh ok... couldnt see the nickname list for a sec [21:46]
ag3nt_zer0 how's it goin out there? [21:46]
mircea_popescu yea ? [21:57]
mod6 asciilifeform: mod6 feature request for your 'v' - degrade gracefully if the graphing lib thing is absent plz << sure, will look into it. thx! [21:59]
mod6 Arch 64 is a go << cool! thanks for testing. [22:00]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform what do you mean it breaks v! [22:10]
shinohai 6.02214179 × 10^23 in teh Vatican: [22:10]
assbot A mole in the Vatican? 2 accused of leaking documents | ... ( ) [22:10]
mircea_popescu << dear lord the degeneracy [22:13]
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mircea_popescu another decade or so the us congress will look just like nero's senate. [22:14]
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mod6 ok i've resolved that issue asciilifeform, I'll test on it for a few days and probably post a new version this coming weekend. [22:24]
mod6 just so we're clear, this change makes it so "use Graph::Easy" is not required unless the 'g|graph' flag is passed. [22:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.00055662 = 8.7111 BTC [+] {4} [22:28]
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mircea_popescu from the tinfoil hat chronicles : [22:44]
mircea_popescu "Tom Morello was born on May 30, 1964, in Harlem, New York to Ngethe Njoroge and Mary Morello. Njoroge was Kikuyu Kenyan and a Mau Mau guerrilla. Jomo Kenyatta, the revolutionary leader of the Mau Mau, was his uncle. Njoroge served as liberated Kenya’s first ambassador to the U.N. In August 1963, Njoroge and Mary met at a pro democracy protest in Nairobi, Kenya. In November 1963 after discovering her pregnancy, Mary [22:44]
mircea_popescu returned to the United States with Njoroge in toll, and married in New York City. [22:44]
mircea_popescu Undoubtedly, Mary Morello similarly to Ann Dunham worked for either the U.S. State Department under Dean Rusk through the USAID student operations ran by Helms to infiltrate leftist Black African Liberation Movements to disrupt, recruit and inform. Ann Dunham was three months pregnant when she married Barack Obama Sr. on February 2, 1961. While Obama Jr. was being conceived in 1960, Mary Morello was circulating in Nair [22:44]
mircea_popescu obi, Kenya. Mary Morello had travelled to Kenya as well as Germany, Spain, Japan under a clandestine veil as an English language teacher between 1957 and 1963. [22:44]
mircea_popescu After graduating from Libertyville High School, Tom Morello was the first student in Libertyville’s history to be admitted to Harvard University. Yet when he graduated with a degree in political science, Tom Morello asserts that he was “unemployable.” He then turned up in Hollywood as an exotic male stripper. [22:44]
mircea_popescu Ordinarily that’s the way the story is suppose to end, two small town boys from Middle America makes good. It was just faith that two young white independent American females just happened to be in the right place and right time [one in the middle of the East Africa] by chance meet two centrally placed Black African Liberation figures key to the interests of British and U.S. Foreign Policy. [22:44]
mircea_popescu One entangles the nephew of one of the most important and powerful Black Nationalist political figures of the 20th Century, Jomo Kenyatta, and the other entangles a key tribal rival to Kenyatta in love child triangles just at the moment of the critical end to a long bloody struggle for Kenyan independence from white colonial rule." [22:44]
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mircea_popescu in other news : no fucking wonder they're so inept. THIS is what they do. roughly the equivalent of a stargazing army staff. [22:53]
assbot ... ( ) [22:53]
mircea_popescu <<< the scars resultant. [22:53]
assbot Logged on 21-08-2015 23:21:00; mircea_popescu: "Welcome, kiddo, to how the real world works. You go ahead and place your crazy protest bids way off in the bottom of the sociological order book and scream that someday, SOMEDAY, the market will come down to meet you, and you will be vindicated. [22:53]
mircea_popescu political science is almost like finance now. great victory for the scientific! [22:54]
BingoBoingo [22:55]
assbot 000webhost Penetrated: 13 Million Plaintext Passwords Compromised | Qntra ... ( ) [22:55]
BingoBoingo Random companies now feel like they gotta apologize in qntra comments nao [22:57]
* mircea_popescu polishes the hammer [23:00]
* mircea_popescu proceeds to re-read the "sociological order book" thing. yup, makes perfect sense. cryptography, who needs it when they've got "best business practices" and pr and whatnot. mainstream media! valuable knowledge and know-how! etc! [23:03]
BingoBoingo Derps gotta herp while the Hurping is hot [23:04]
mircea_popescu in other old news, [23:10]
assbot Former congressional aide accused of drugging and sexually assaulting women - The Washington Post ... ( ) [23:10]
mircea_popescu twist : he's black. [23:10]
mircea_popescu (d, obv.) [23:11]
asciilifeform << something in the mpi pile of shit breaks the regex [23:13]
assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 01:10:03; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you mean it breaks v! [23:13]
mircea_popescu ugh [23:14]
asciilifeform i suspect a stray 8th bit somewhere [23:14]
asciilifeform << do they have own jail ? [23:15]
assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 01:10:03; shinohai: 6.02214179 × 10^23 in teh Vatican: [23:15]
asciilifeform or subcontract to italy [23:15]
asciilifeform from fishwrap linked earlier, [23:15]
assbot One-time NSA division chief to plead guilty in young son’s death, court files show - The Washington Post ... ( ) [23:15]
asciilifeform ^ anyone recall this? [23:15]
asciilifeform (it came up before, long ago) [23:16]
asciilifeform << from same. also mega-l0l [23:17]
assbot Severance guilty in three high-profile killings in Alexandria - The Washington Post ... ( ) [23:17]
asciilifeform 'An eccentric history buff was found guilty Monday of killing three prominent Alexandria residents over the course of a decade..... Prosecutors said he was motivated by bitterness over a child custody battle that he lost and a general hatred of Alexandria’s elite..' [23:18]
asciilifeform mug shot suggests that they caught... rasputin ? [23:18]
mircea_popescu lmao [23:19]
asciilifeform earlier, 'The case against Charles Severance, who turned 55 last month in the Fairfax County jail, is a circumstantial one, predicated largely on Severance’s voluminous writings and ballistics evidence that isn’t as conclusive as prosecutors might like.' [23:19]
mircea_popescu awww, nsa division head fell into the "find me five lines and i'll hang him" trap ? [23:20]
asciilifeform how else. [23:20]
mircea_popescu listen up, remaining ones... you won't know which of you isn't on my books already. but you know YOU aren't, and now you know it'll mean your ass. [23:20]
mircea_popescu get with the program, there's no prizes for being the last traitor of a dying state. [23:20]
asciilifeform somewhere a kryuchkov is nervously fondling his luger [23:21]
asciilifeform 'Their most convincing piece of evidence might be Severance’s writings, seized from his car and through various electronic means.' [23:23]
mircea_popescu im sure they're very convincing. [23:24]
asciilifeform (elsewhere) 'Severance was arrested in March 2014 over the murders after he sought asylum at the Russian Embassy in D.C. He was reportedly 'sent away' from the embassy and told he was an 'unwanted guest'.' [23:26]
mircea_popescu almost qntrable. [23:26]
asciilifeform the 'damning writings' themselves are - unsurprisingly - not public anywhere, afaik. [23:28]
mircea_popescu but they are convincing! [23:29]
asciilifeform 'a prosecutor told a jury Wednesday. The killings, carried out over roughly a decade, were nothing short of “political assassinations.” “Introduce murder into a safe and secure neighborhood,” Alexandria Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney David Lord quoted from Severance’s writings.' [23:29]
asciilifeform 'A former Virginia political candidate was convicted on Monday of three murders over an 11-year span that fed fears of a serial killer in the U.S. capital area.' [23:30]
asciilifeform candidate, lol [23:31]
asciilifeform '...ran for mayor and Congress. He sometimes wore a tricorn hat, was known for ranting in public and once threw a punch at the organizer of a mayoral debate.' [23:31]
asciilifeform (paging emperor norton!) [23:31]
BingoBoingo almost qntrable. << Someone give it the right treatment it could be. [23:33]
mod6 asciilifeform: looks like my version handled it ok? [23:34]
assbot ... ( ) [23:34]
mircea_popescu wird. [23:34]
asciilifeform 'Lord [prosecutor] also said he believed that Severance did not leave forensic evidence at the scene of any of the killings because he wore gloves. He pointed out that ballistics experts said it was exceedingly rare for a killing to be carried out with the type of .22-caliber ammunition used in each case and added that Severance displayed guilty behavior by fleeing to the Russian Embassy in the District after police initially [23:34]
asciilifeform contacted him about Lodato's killing.' [23:34]
asciilifeform mod6: odd! [23:35]
asciilifeform and wtf, the usg Official Truth is that MOST small arms homicides in usa have .22 hole. [23:35]
asciilifeform last i saw. [23:36]
asciilifeform jury was either a) not told this b) knew but was Officially ordered to disregard ? [23:36]
BingoBoingo and wtf, the usg Official Truth is that MOST small arms homicides in usa have .22 hole. << Pehaps he had the fancy copper plate stuff. [23:36]
mod6 oh, i did notice that your vpatch does have dates in it though. you probably just had an older version of vdiff? [23:36]
asciilifeform mod6: hm it appears so. [23:37]
mod6 mine still didn't seem to care, but maybe try yours without ts's? [23:37]
asciilifeform mod6: the price i pay for having half-finished crud lying around [23:37]
mircea_popescu i still dunno why it would have died [23:37]
mod6 i hear ya :] [23:37]
mircea_popescu and perhaps it should be fuzzed [23:37]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my original 'v' relied on python's 're' (regexp) widget, and will prolly fall down if looked at with evil eye [23:38]
mircea_popescu a [23:38]
mircea_popescu a ok this isn't his [23:38]
asciilifeform 'In another passage he writes, “I’ve been nudging and trolling for over a decade and nobody has noticed. Violence wins. Assassinate because it is in the best interest of the child.”' [23:41]
asciilifeform 'Defense lawyers for Charles Severance, 54, of Ashburn, had asked the judge to bar prosecutors from using the writing as evidence out of concern that his inflammatory message would unfairly rile up a jury against him.' [23:41]
asciilifeform ( ) [23:42]
ben_vulpes regex is black fucking magic [23:45]
asciilifeform << see also [23:46]
assbot Re: Can I use Lisp? - Naggum cll archive ... ( ) [23:46]
asciilifeform << same re: perl. [23:47]
assbot Re: Is there a useful distinction between "programming" and "scripting" languages? - Naggum cll archive ... ( ) [23:47]
asciilifeform naggum, of course, did not touch upon the real root of the disease [23:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00055009 = 13.4222 BTC [-] {2} [23:48]
asciilifeform which is that the shrinkage of design space led us into a place where often one MUST use a regexp or a similarly braindamaged thing [23:48]
asciilifeform because the alternative is 1line.txt logs2.txt logs3.txt logs4.txt [23:48]
mircea_popescu in seeminglyt unrelated news, [23:49]
mircea_popescu "Before, the experience of addiction was entirely subjective, is it messing up your life? Now, it's been objectified, the subject's relationship with the drug is is no longer relevant, it is the fact of the drug that is relevant. The obvious example of this sleight of hand is that there's alcohol use and alcohol abuse, but there's no such category as cocaine use, even though the vast majority of its ingestion has nothi [23:49]
mircea_popescu ng to do with addiction. The reinforcement is from the outside to comply with this idiocy: say you party down one weekend, then a random drug test at work, oops! So two things can happen, Guess What Happens Next: you could tell the truth that the coke was on her ass and how could you not? doesn't make you a bad person; or pretend/admit you're an addict and agree to go to rehab. So it's unanimous? You keep your job [23:49]
mircea_popescu at McDonalds and the system gets another data point confirming it is right. I hope the parallel between this and anything written by Solzhenitsyn is immediately obvious, if not, read anything by Solzhenitsyn. The Matrix doesn't need you, but it will offer you a free pass if you help get the other batteries in line." [23:49]
asciilifeform pushing around huge fucking tanks of unstructured text sludge that has to be picked apart by machine every single fucking time you want to do anything - leads to regexp. [23:49]
ben_vulpes punkman: [23:49]
assbot CDE/ at master · pgbovine/CDE · GitHub ... ( ) [23:50]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform and ironically the tanks of sludge got to be in the first place because "people want to read the code". [23:50]
asciilifeform aha. [23:50]
asciilifeform but also because 'why not have diff output a sexpr?' 'ewwwww parens omfg!1111111' [23:50]
mircea_popescu romney should have run on a platform of "there may be only one compiler and one namespace per generation and whoever breaks it we'll sell to ethiopian slavers" [23:51]
mircea_popescu forget "fiscal conservative" bs. information conservative. [23:51]
asciilifeform if it's one where diff and every single fucking thing under the sun doesn't operate on sexprs or something isomorphic - we get exactly to the same place we are now. [23:51]
mircea_popescu no, because no "autoconf" nor "make" bs [23:51]
asciilifeform we are dealing with a very basic mathematical issue [23:52]
mircea_popescu and it wouldn't be sexprs it'd be asts [23:52]
asciilifeform no different from the african huts that won't stand up [23:52]
asciilifeform sexpr is merely one way to represent an unambiguously-parseable ast [23:52]
mircea_popescu aha. [23:52]
asciilifeform which is why i said 'or isomorphic' [23:52]
mircea_popescu but focusing on the format is pointless. [23:52]
mircea_popescu right [23:52]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i am in the habit of sending various relatives snippets to paste into sbcl and limited instructions on what to do [23:53]
ben_vulpes (re parens) [23:53]
asciilifeform and...? [23:53]
ben_vulpes works! [23:53]
mircea_popescu we now know enough - through our own work of digging and torture-extracted confessions, no less - to estimate that a large if not the largest pillar of the insanity was rms&co misguided quest to protect "but people want to read the code". [23:53]
ben_vulpes these are molecular researchy folks and the like [23:54]
mircea_popescu io hope you're sending them as docx [23:54]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: how's that [23:54]
asciilifeform ? [23:54]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform recall the "can't expose ast" drama ? [23:54]
asciilifeform aha [23:54]
ben_vulpes i don't, praytell? [23:55]
asciilifeform the thing he did is called (at least by ilkka kokkarinen, who introduced me to the concept), [23:55]
asciilifeform 'unprincipled exception' [23:55]
asciilifeform 'yes, everyone can read the code!' 'but now we gotta make it so that we aren't working for microshit for free because no one can actually make'em obey gpl' [23:55]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes recent rms/everyone else fallout over whether llvm is good or not and gcc should or shouyld not expose the ast [23:55]
mircea_popescu quite. [23:56]
asciilifeform so we got obfuscatory obscurantist skulduggery. [23:56]
mircea_popescu they were wrong btw. should have worked for ms for free. [23:56]
ben_vulpes "In all likelihood, there was no [23:56]
ben_vulpes change at all to the labor-intensiveness, but the labor was more "fun" for a [23:56]
ben_vulpes certain class of people." [23:56]
mircea_popescu just like bitcoin works for obama for frere [23:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42340 @ 0.00054942 = 23.2624 BTC [-] {2} [23:56]
ben_vulpes ahahahaha [23:56]
ben_vulpes or stan works for tmsr~ for free [23:56]
mircea_popescu as in "i'll slit your throat and rape your sluts" free [23:56]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is how we got apple. [23:56]
asciilifeform (the current, post-nextstep apple) [23:56]
mircea_popescu i disagree. [23:57]
mircea_popescu we would have gotten apple no matter what, even withoujt computing. apple is what happens when an ambitious young man gets lucky with the media buys early and then sticks to it. [23:57]
asciilifeform everything in an apple product that actually fuking WORKS, silently, tirelessly, without fail, without generating 'work' for armies of vermin - was written by folks who never dreamed that it would end up in a commercial unix [23:57]
mircea_popescu (it's a testament to the idiocy of america : you can FORCE them into liking anything.) [23:58]
asciilifeform (because they were dim, yes) [23:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that's how we got the earlier apple. [23:58]
asciilifeform i'm speaking of the present-day one, which destroyed every other commercial unix house [23:58]
asciilifeform at least partly because it never had to pay for what became the os. [23:59]
mircea_popescu the "commercial unix houses" were the happy marriage of imbeciles to eighteen-abortions whores. [23:59]
asciilifeform sun was a legit thing for a spell [23:59]
mircea_popescu fucking medieval shogun'd have murdered them. [23:59]
asciilifeform (through 1995 or so) [23:59]
asciilifeform even hp [23:59]
mircea_popescu hp SELECTED fiorina. [23:59]
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