Comments on: Outrageous MP's guide to not being a poorfag

By: The Coolest Guide to Coolness, Riches, Ginger and Spice in Ossasepia

The Coolest Guide to Coolness, Riches, Ginger and Spice in Ossasepia — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:22:11 +0000

[...] two blogs who occasionally talk to one another as it were: one says he’s cheep (and Pete), the other outrageous (and Mircea), both of them basically solve all your problems on the matter and send you home to do [...]

By: Pete Dushenski

Pete Dushenski — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 20:03:04 +0000

@MP : With the benefit of hindsight as well as this discussion, "Cheep Pete's Guide To Being Liked By Cheep Pete" would've perhaps made for a better title.

By: Stanislav Datskovskiy

Stanislav Datskovskiy — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 19:58:34 +0000

> if the comings and goings of life are indeed such an unbearably grevious imposition upon you, the correct solution is suicide .... ... they want to not be stuck to a cart while the hussies go a'hussin' in the meadow nearby. This last point is uncharacteristic considering his stance in the clubsluts&sorority girls #trilema discussion...

When I say 'work', this has a very specific meaning - the idiot crud that pays the bills.

And the 'hussies' I'd rather be chasing are named Cramer and Shoup. This probably makes me a monstrous thing from beneath the ocean.

By: Mircea Popescu

Mircea Popescu — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 18:11:57 +0000

Take the simple case of "stay in school". So this is sound advice. But ... why ? Kid wants to know, he doesn't so he asks. Why ?

What do you tell him ? If you tell him "because that makes all the junior high sluts want you in their wazoo", you are committing utter fraud - they don't, at that age. If however you tell him "because that WILL make all the club sluts & sorority girls want you in their ass when you grow up" you are comitting pious fraud, and arguably a much worse offense - the kid can't verify your lie until it is sadly too late.

All the while, the truth of the matter is that there's very little why. "You'll maybe be less dumb, perhaps" is the most objective anything you can say.

Which is why it is so important for this question to be answered subjectively : "Because if you do not, ~I~, your father, will piss on your skull after having separated it from your body."

A less gruesome equivalent may equally well work, but the central point remains : "because if you don't I won't like you".

Never mind the money.

By: Pete Dushenski

Pete Dushenski — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 18:05:54 +0000

What you call "pious fraud," I'd call "actionable steps," but perhaps I'm too indoctrinated in the USian tradition of "self-help" books and the religious traditions of "don't touch that bacon!" to see through to the other side. From this vantage point, the possibility space of stupid actions is indomitably large and that of sane actions considerably more constrained.

Providing a prescription for right action is nothing new, but it is undoubtedly effective at preventing the repetitions of history's errors, perhaps even because of the sugar-coating. Maybe it should be otherwise, but I don't think we live in that world.