Comments on: Introducing [P]ermanence http://trilema.com/2016/introducing-permanence/ Moving targets for a fast crowd. Wed, 13 May 2026 22:23:27 +0000 http://polimedia.us hourly 1 By: A Review of the Bitcoin Category on trilema.com « Ossa Sepia http://trilema.com/2016/introducing-permanence/#comment-148177 A Review of the Bitcoin Category on trilema.com « Ossa Sepia Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:42:32 +0000 http://trilema.com/?p=66127#comment-148177 [...] description of Permanence as "the world's first AAI" (autonomous artificial intelligence) to be worked towards. [...] [...] description of Permanence as "the world's first AAI" (autonomous artificial intelligence) to be worked towards. [...]

]]> By: Mircea Popescu http://trilema.com/2016/introducing-permanence/#comment-123502 Mircea Popescu Wed, 08 Nov 2017 20:26:56 +0000 http://trilema.com/?p=66127#comment-123502 Here, I helped : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734358 Once you get the 11999 bitcoinz together early next year drop us a line we can go <a href=http://trilema.com/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/ >yacht partying</a> or something. Here, I helped : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734358

Once you get the 11999 bitcoinz together early next year drop us a line we can go yacht partying or something.

]]> By: Michaelwal http://trilema.com/2016/introducing-permanence/#comment-123499 Michaelwal Wed, 08 Nov 2017 17:06:06 +0000 http://trilema.com/?p=66127#comment-123499 How did I earn 11000 bitcoins in 55 days: http://11000bitcoin.xyz/wppage/how-to-earn-11000-bitcoins-in-55-days/ How did I earn 11000 bitcoins in 55 days: http://11000bitcoin.xyz/wppage/how-to-earn-11000-bitcoins-in-55-days/

]]> By: Mircea Popescu http://trilema.com/2016/introducing-permanence/#comment-117191 Mircea Popescu Tue, 03 May 2016 13:50:49 +0000 http://trilema.com/?p=66127#comment-117191 There's more approaches to the subversion problem. For one thing : the system could be incomprehensible. Consider the [<a href=http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-09#1427851 >very little discussed</a>] situation of faux "artificial intelligence" as produced by the Bayesian hyerophants. For the other thing : the system could be self-healing. Consider the very simple case of CRC encoded messages resisting subversion by the transmission medium. I'm sure there's more things. The automobile will forever run into trees ; the question is to make every occurence unsurprising. You can register either way, really. There's more approaches to the subversion problem. For one thing : the system could be incomprehensible. Consider the [very little discussed] situation of faux "artificial intelligence" as produced by the Bayesian hyerophants. For the other thing : the system could be self-healing. Consider the very simple case of CRC encoded messages resisting subversion by the transmission medium. I'm sure there's more things.

The automobile will forever run into trees ; the question is to make every occurence unsurprising.

You can register either way, really.

]]> By: spyked http://trilema.com/2016/introducing-permanence/#comment-117190 spyked Tue, 03 May 2016 13:02:10 +0000 http://trilema.com/?p=66127#comment-117190 <blockquote>You're making concept salad. For your own personal enlightment, lemme direct you to the standard Romanian History Manual, 9th grade, with Michael on the cover. The Romanian Principalities acquiring autonomy is therein pointedly not equivalent to their acquiring independence. And there's also churchly autocephaly and a host of other situations. They all mean meanings and are distinguishable and distinct, this naive autonomous = independent = sovereign = sugar, spice and everything nice doth not hold. More generally : slaves are routinely autonomous, at least mine are. Autonomy denotes an ability to act independently, that, the ability, no more.</blockquote> Point taken. The issues raised are worth contemplating though. One of them is the slave switching allegiance (see Russo-Turkish War/Romanian War of Independence, very probably related to infiltration problem discussed above; I've avoided discussing the more precise meaning of "subverted" in terms of computing, but in the end it's unavoidable; I guess the system needs to be fully deterministic and controllable-by-owner, from a control theoretical point of view). Or just susceptibility to simpler scenarios such as "bribe guard dog with food". The other is, if we use biological organisms as models, (in addition to parasites et al.) the possibility of cancers or autoimmune disease occuring in the system; I guess the latter would actually be a feature (kill self if stopped functioning properly), but the former probably not. This isn't so much the case of the system turning „signularity” (which I agree is unicornism) as it is of "automobile running into tree due to stack overflow bug in brake firmware" or something similar. But alas, this is an issue with most software (and some hardware). <blockquote>That's more a lordship thing. Do not waste time, under any excuse, such as for instance that you're 13 and intercourse is painful still, or that you're saving up to "offer the best" or whatever else. Fugit irreparabile.</blockquote> Alright. Will do once I get a cloak. Is the tradition still to do registration in-channel, or is it ok to chat privately with deedbot?

You're making concept salad. For your own personal enlightment, lemme direct you to the standard Romanian History Manual, 9th grade, with Michael on the cover. The Romanian Principalities acquiring autonomy is therein pointedly not equivalent to their acquiring independence. And there's also churchly autocephaly and a host of other situations. They all mean meanings and are distinguishable and distinct, this naive autonomous = independent = sovereign = sugar, spice and everything nice doth not hold.

More generally : slaves are routinely autonomous, at least mine are. Autonomy denotes an ability to act independently, that, the ability, no more.

Point taken.

The issues raised are worth contemplating though. One of them is the slave switching allegiance (see Russo-Turkish War/Romanian War of Independence, very probably related to infiltration problem discussed above; I've avoided discussing the more precise meaning of "subverted" in terms of computing, but in the end it's unavoidable; I guess the system needs to be fully deterministic and controllable-by-owner, from a control theoretical point of view). Or just susceptibility to simpler scenarios such as "bribe guard dog with food".

The other is, if we use biological organisms as models, (in addition to parasites et al.) the possibility of cancers or autoimmune disease occuring in the system; I guess the latter would actually be a feature (kill self if stopped functioning properly), but the former probably not. This isn't so much the case of the system turning „signularity” (which I agree is unicornism) as it is of "automobile running into tree due to stack overflow bug in brake firmware" or something similar. But alas, this is an issue with most software (and some hardware).

That's more a lordship thing. Do not waste time, under any excuse, such as for instance that you're 13 and intercourse is painful still, or that you're saving up to "offer the best" or whatever else. Fugit irreparabile.

Alright. Will do once I get a cloak. Is the tradition still to do registration in-channel, or is it ok to chat privately with deedbot?

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