Comments on: The 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 Sunday event http://trilema.com/2015/the-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-sunday-event/ Moving targets for a fast crowd. Thu, 09 Apr 2026 05:49:23 +0000 http://polimedia.us hourly 1 By: The sad story of Sacrifice on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. http://trilema.com/2015/the-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-sunday-event/#comment-141640 The sad story of Sacrifice on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. Wed, 08 Jan 2020 08:14:22 +0000 http://trilema.com/?p=62774#comment-141640 [...] was my conviction that they will be discovered immediately. A total blowout, something like this later [...] [...] was my conviction that they will be discovered immediately. A total blowout, something like this later [...]

]]> By: Mircea Popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-sunday-event/#comment-114949 Mircea Popescu Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:06:11 +0000 http://trilema.com/?p=62774#comment-114949 Pretty good stuff, I say. Pretty good stuff, I say.

]]> By: Daniel P. Barron http://trilema.com/2015/the-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-sunday-event/#comment-114947 Daniel P. Barron Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:37:04 +0000 http://trilema.com/?p=62774#comment-114947 I haven't been able to come up with a 'sexpr' yet, but here's the equation I used to complete the contest: {starting_quality} - {quality_lost_per_iteration}*x = {desired_end_quality} + {quality_lost_per_use} * y where an 'iteration' is when you use a tool and then merge it with a stack of the same kind of tool for the purpose of averaging out the qualities in such a way as to lose a point of quality in the rounding down. For the pickaxe and the hoe, this is accomplished with a stack of two, but for the adze it requires a stack of three (because the adze's normal use takes away an even number of quality points and therefor will not lose a point in rounding down unless stacked in odd numbers). Anyone who seriously attempted this probably already knows that tools degrade as follows: hoe - 187 per use, 94 per iteration pickaxe - 175 .. .. 88 .. adze - 170 .. .. 57 .. So if you want to end up with say.. a quality '9' pickaxe and you're starting with two at quality 18`200, your equation should be: 18200 - 88*x = 9 + 175*y which you can re-arrange to get: x = 175*n + 157 y = 25 - 88*n substitute '0' for 'n' because we want the first instance of cross-over, and make sure that 'y' doesn't equal a negative number as that would mean you cannot arrive at the desired quality from the designated starting point. That leaves us with: x = 157 y = 25 That means you want to /explore and merge 157 times, and then use the tool normally 25 times. This probably isn't the most efficient method if you're trying to get a certain quality as fast as possible, but if you were going to do a lot of /exploring anyway, it works fine. I haven't been able to come up with a 'sexpr' yet, but here's the equation I used to complete the contest:

{starting_quality} - {quality_lost_per_iteration}*x = {desired_end_quality} + {quality_lost_per_use} * y

where an 'iteration' is when you use a tool and then merge it with a stack of the same kind of tool for the purpose of averaging out the qualities in such a way as to lose a point of quality in the rounding down. For the pickaxe and the hoe, this is accomplished with a stack of two, but for the adze it requires a stack of three (because the adze's normal use takes away an even number of quality points and therefor will not lose a point in rounding down unless stacked in odd numbers).

Anyone who seriously attempted this probably already knows that tools degrade as follows:

hoe - 187 per use, 94 per iteration
pickaxe - 175 .. .. 88 ..
adze - 170 .. .. 57 ..

So if you want to end up with say.. a quality '9' pickaxe and you're starting with two at quality 18`200, your equation should be:

18200 - 88*x = 9 + 175*y

which you can re-arrange to get:

x = 175*n + 157
y = 25 - 88*n

substitute '0' for 'n' because we want the first instance of cross-over, and make sure that 'y' doesn't equal a negative number as that would mean you cannot arrive at the desired quality from the designated starting point.

That leaves us with:

x = 157
y = 25

That means you want to /explore and merge 157 times, and then use the tool normally 25 times.

This probably isn't the most efficient method if you're trying to get a certain quality as fast as possible, but if you were going to do a lot of /exploring anyway, it works fine.

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